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A group of NATO ships entered the Black Sea

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The ships of the second permanent naval group of NATO entered last night in the Black Sea, reports the Internet edition The Duma with reference to Turkish bloggers.




The flagship of the compound is the British missile destroyer HMS Duncan (D37). In addition, the group includes the Spanish Navy frigates SPS Victoria (F82), the Turkish Navy TCG Gemlik (F492), the German Navy FGS Bayern (F217), as well as several smaller ships,
the report said.



At the end of April, Anatoly Petrenko, Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine for European Integration, said that the Ukrainian military supported the position regarding the presence of NATO ships in the Black Sea region.



According to him, "by 2013, there were only 12 thousand military personnel in the Black Sea region, and now there are 32 thousand of them." In addition, the region has “more than 100 aircraft and 700 tanks».

Recall that last year the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law, according to which Ukraine’s membership in NATO is one of the priorities of the country's foreign policy. Also, the course for membership in the alliance is spelled out in the laws On the Fundamentals of Domestic and Foreign Policy and On the Fundamentals of the National Security of Ukraine. At the same time, the alliance has repeatedly stated that Kiev has a lot to do in order to gain the status of a country aspiring to join NATO.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 2 May 2018 14: 17
    +11
    After renaming the ATO in the OOS (operations of the combined forces), we did not have a sharp exacerbation. And here is the first press conference of the OOS speaker.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 2 May 2018 14: 20
      +10
      Again pinned! NATO ships - the British, Spaniards and Germans - cannot sit at home!
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      2. figwam
        figwam 2 May 2018 14: 38
        +8
        And Turkey I look at two chairs wants to sit.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 2 May 2018 14: 48
          +11
          Quote: figvam
          And Turkey I look at two chairs wants to sit.

          What does not suit you? Turkey is a member of NATO and is washed by the Black Sea. Everything is logical. smile
          1. figwam
            figwam 2 May 2018 14: 54
            +2
            Quote: Thrall
            What does not suit you? Turkey is a member of NATO and is washed by the Black Sea. Everything is logical

            Use our resources, technologies, weapons and immediately participate in exercises against us.
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 2 May 2018 14: 57
              +11
              They pay for resources, technology and weapons, but they do not ask us for exercises. All honestly smile
              1. figwam
                figwam 2 May 2018 15: 25
                +2
                Quote: Thrall
                All honestly

                Let's just say that you and I have different notions of honesty.
                1. Deck
                  Deck 2 May 2018 17: 40
                  +6
                  You, going to the supermarket, then keep his loyalty to him all his life? I want to understand your idea of ​​honor.
                  1. figwam
                    figwam 2 May 2018 18: 38
                    +2
                    Quote: Deck
                    You, going to the supermarket, then keep his loyalty to him all his life? I want to understand your idea of ​​honor.

                    And who was talking about honor ???
                    As for me, I talked about honesty.
                    If we go down to the level of a supermarket, then we have concluded a mutually beneficial agreement with another supermarket. Selling our products, we and they receive money, and they also on credit, both parties are satisfied. But it turns out our partner is an organized criminal group who plans to seize, rob and divide our supermarket. Here I am talking about the honesty of this companion, who could not participate and help to prepare this attack.
                    That's clearer?
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 56
            +1
            Thrall, and what, Turkey does not have enough of its ships for its security?
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 2 May 2018 14: 59
              +6
              Quote: sabakina
              Thrall, and what, Turkey does not have enough of its ships for its security?

              But do you think Turkey is in danger? See easier. Entered - come out. If no one was scared, then the result is zero smile
              Well sent Trump AUG to the shores of the DPRK. And what? Just disgraced. Well, we conducted joint exercises in Belarus and Russia, saying that they were not directed against anyone. Poland and the Baltic states managed - the result is achieved. Political of course. And the goal of any joint military exercises is the coordination of units and subunits, the improvement of skills, etc. etc. This goal is always achieved.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 19
                +6
                Thrall, what the fuck are they up to? The stump is clear, scare us. Thrall, just in case, he warmed up the boilers on the aircraft carrier, otherwise our group of ships in the Belorussian Sea is not there yet ...
                1. Thrall
                  Thrall 2 May 2018 15: 37
                  +11
                  And I’m all thinking when the Belarusian aircraft carrier is already deployed. Kuzya your repair. Ours, however, on potato traction. Cannot dial nodes quickly. While starch turns into glucose, and glucose into alcohol. While the father-in-law waves this moonshine and picks up the oars, the enemy AUG usually manages to escape. laughing
      3. Alex777
        Alex777 2 May 2018 16: 28
        +3
        In the neighboring material - about the exacerbation in LDNR. So they got it. Type of moral support. And see how the next attack of dill is covered. Returning home - they will tell everyone that, well, what the hell to fight ... hi
    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 2 May 2018 14: 21
      +3
      Well, how the Ukrainians do not lick NATO. Maybe they will give some gingerbread. In the form of a pair of rubber boats.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 2 May 2018 14: 26
        +10
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Well, how the Ukrainians do not lick NATO

        It's time to end with Parasha and all this gop company in Kiev. Under the USSR, the NATO people were not particularly impudent in the Russian Sea, and now, as they behave at home.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 2 May 2018 19: 24
          +3
          Under the USSR, the Black Sea was our inland. Warsaw Pact and all matters. The exception was Turkey. And now, thank God, even our Crimea. Otherwise - it would be completely sad. hi
    3. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 2 May 2018 14: 22
      +8
      Lord and OOS - is such a striped Flies ??? wassat
      Courage and Fortitude to you! Well, good luck of course! soldier
      Well, these, let them "swim", it is SWIMMING, because ..... Guantanomo is still an interesting name! repeat
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 2 May 2018 14: 23
        +7
        Operation United Forces apparently tried to be similar to the OST plan.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 2 May 2018 14: 28
          +8
          Lord - teach them stories! Ost - is well dug in our endless fields and Chic forests! hi
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 34
      +1
      Sergei hi . It seems to me that with his timbre of voice he is trying to copy someone very familiar ... Basurina?
      PySy. What is a "non-rebound kokhan"!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 2 May 2018 14: 38
        +3
        Vyacheslav hi Unhappy love... crying Apparently ...
        Quote: sabakina
        Sergei hi . It seems to me that with his timbre of voice he is trying to copy someone very familiar ... Basurina?
        PySy. What is a "non-rebound kokhan"!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 00
          +1
          Yes Dim, thanks! Then it came to my mind. Well, what else has surfaced, ask the young man who took Berlin, they say Kutuzov ....
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 May 2018 15: 17
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          Unhappy love.

          And I, the little fellow, thought that the virgin kicks back. Oh how!
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 2 May 2018 15: 08
        +2
        Good afternoon, Vyacheslav hi They still need to work on the image. In general, a person will get tired of artificially depicting and soon, will read bulletins without interest.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 May 2018 16: 16
          +3
          Cool! And when did the sultan become a friend to us ???
          Everything is logical, as I have already written more than once! He pulled out a knife, like from our back, but he certainly didn’t hide it, he was holding it ready and guess whose back he was aiming at?
          A group of ships is bullshit, just a poorly protected target within reach!
          To be afraid of a fairy, to keep a fly, yes!
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 2 May 2018 17: 54
            +2
            A group of NATO ships entered the Black Sea
    5. Lynx33
      Lynx33 3 May 2018 06: 40
      +1
      The question is not the renaming itself, but who will be this combined force? I suspect that they will be Yankees with sixes.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 2 May 2018 14: 19
    +4
    For especially stubborn British and French ... Welcome to hell! Think of the Crimean War ... This also applies to our followers of Prince Menshikov ... With "Khibiny" and hats ..
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    1. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 27
      +1
      Tatyana, both entered and will leave. How long is Montreux? No, well, if they want to create a "base" for divers ....
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 May 2018 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: sabakina
        Tatyana, both entered and will leave. How long is Montreux? No, well, if they want to create a "base" for divers ....

        Ha! I escaped from under you, Vyacheslav, up! I apologize to you! Only after reloading the page did your comment notice!

        Monte's term in this case does not really matter! All the same, NATO ships in the Black Sea are present on a CONSTANT basis! They will leave, so others will tidy up.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 2 May 2018 14: 42
          +3
          It’s what’s not permanent, but rotational, but there are always yes ... however, the paradox .. laughing
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 May 2018 14: 47
            +2
            Quote: igorka357
            paradox however.

            No, Igor! This is called CASUISTICS. Just a Pentagon militarist with respect to war and peace leads the world community by the nose.

            Casuistry (from lat. Casus - “case”, “casus”) - in the common sense, this term is understood as resourcefulness in arguments when proving doubtful or FALSE ideas; chicanery.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 04
            +2
            Quote: igorka357
            It’s what’s not permanent, but rotational, but there are always yes ... however, the paradox .. laughing

            Igor, there is a joke. Ending: "- A paradox! Two houses (women of easy virtue), but no money at home! Paradox!
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 May 2018 14: 21
    +2
    ECA importance - the main thing is that the fans at the stadiums should be comfortable ...
  5. Kerensky
    Kerensky 2 May 2018 14: 23
    +1
    Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine for European Integration Anatoly Petrenko reported that in the Ukrainian military support the position regarding the presence of NATO ships in the Black Sea region.

    What support? Well, would come out to meet, in the parade ... Shaw? Are the boats blown away? Both?!
  6. sabakina
    sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 24
    +3
    “More than 100 aircraft and 700 tanks”
    From this moment I would like to know more, because even Germany does not have enough combat tanks ...
  7. san4es
    san4es 2 May 2018 14: 29
    +5
    hi The flagship of the compound is the British missile destroyer HMS Duncan (D37).
    The destroyer HMS Duncan (D37) is the last destroyer in a series of six Type-45 Daring air defense destroyers built for the Royal Navy of Great Britain. The main destroyer of the series is HMS “Daring” (D32). Main characteristics: Displacement standard 7500 tons, total 8100 tons. Length 152,4 meters, width 21,2 meters, draft 7,4 meters. Speed ​​over 29 knots. Cruising range 7000 nautical miles at 18 knots. Autonomy 45 days. The crew of 190 people.
    Engines: 2 × Rolls-Royce WR-21 gas turbines; 2 × Wärtsilä V12 VASA32 diesel generator; 2 × Converteam electric motors.
    Power: Turbines: 2 × 28 hp Diesel generators: 800 × 2 2 hp Electric motors: 700 × 2 27 hp
    Mover 2 screws adjustable pitch.
    Armament:
    Navigation armament: multifunctional radar SAMPSON.
    Radar weapons: S1850 airborne and surface target early warning radar.
    Electronic weapons: sonar MFS-7000.
    Artillery: 1 × 114 mm Mark 8 Mod. 1.
    Anti-aircraft artillery: 2 × 20 mm Mark 15 Phalanx CIWS, 2 × 30 mm ZAU Oerlikon KCB.
    Missile weapons: SAM PAAMS (UVP SYLVER: 48 SAM "Aster-15" or "Aster-30").
    Mine-torpedo armament: anti-torpedo defense system
    Aviation group: hangar, 1 Westland Lynx HMA8 or Westland Merlin HM1 helicopter.

    German Navy FGS Bayern (F217)
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 2 May 2018 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: san4es
      The flagship of the compound is the British missile destroyer HMS Duncan (D37)

      Do "Duncan" behind the plasma rotates or have already switched to Oled? winked
      1. san4es
        san4es 2 May 2018 15: 09
        +3
        Quote: Deadush
        ... At Duncan's back, the plasma is spinning ...

        smile ... Yeah. 3D:
        S1850M is a three-coordinate long-range airborne radar with a passive phased array for missile attack early warning systems. Developed jointly by France, Italy and the United Kingdom (BAE Systems and Thales) to provide highly effective air defense to promising frigates. Currently, it is the main radar component of PAAMS systems on frigates of the Horizon type of the French and Italian Navy, destroyers of the Dering type of the British Navy, as well as on mobile ground installations. Designed based on the SMART-L radar of the Dutch Thales branch, however, it uses its own signal processing architecture from Alenia Marconi Systems (currently BAE Systems). Compared to SMART-L, radar performance in electronic countermeasures has been improved. Design The 8,2-meter antenna consists of 24 solid-state modules, 16 of which are transmitting. ...
        Frequency Range 1-2 GHz (D)
        Rotational speed 12 rpm
        Max. range 400 km
        65 km (ESR = 0,01 m²)
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 13
        +1
        Vial, prvevet! He is trying to catch the Russian signal with the animated series "Well, wait a minute!" wink
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 2 May 2018 15: 34
          +3
          Quote: sabakina
          Vial, prvevet! He is trying to catch the Russian signal with the animated series "Well, wait a minute!" wink

          Welcome hi
          they need to transmit horror films so that they do not relax lol
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 53
      +1
      Sancho! Here what for torpedo your parameters, how much hp it has? You write about the weaknesses!
    3. Felix
      Felix 2 May 2018 20: 24
      +1
      The flagship of the compound is the British missile destroyer HMS Duncan (D37).
      Artillery: 1 × 114 mm Mark 8 Mod. 1.
      Anti-aircraft artillery: 2 × 20 mm Mark 15 Phalanx CIWS, 2 × 30 mm ZAU Oerlikon KCB.
      Missile weapons: SAM PAAMS (UVP SYLVER: 48 SAM "Aster-15" or "Aster-30").
      Mine-torpedo armament: anti-torpedo defense system
      Aviation group: hangar, 1 Westland Lynx HMA8 or Westland Merlin HM1 helicopter.

      Eeee ... Forgive the loser, but that the destroyer has only defensive weapons?
      1. san4es
        san4es 2 May 2018 20: 33
        +2
        Quote: Felix
        ... weapons only defensive?

        ... Exactly. 2 x 4 RCC “Harpoon” missed ... Sorry hi

  8. Abram
    Abram 2 May 2018 14: 34
    +3
    Khibin charge! tube 15, sight 120! Bang bang! and past lol
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 2 May 2018 14: 47
      +3
      Well, what is it, Troll?
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 14: 51
      +1
      Alarmist, you forgot about "Stop! I will shoot!"
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 2 May 2018 15: 57
        +3
        Quote: sabakina
        Alarmist, you forgot about "Stop! I will shoot!"

        I remembered a joke ...
        - Wait! I will shoot!
        - I stand.
        - I'm shooting!
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 16: 11
          +2
          Quote: helmi8
          I remembered a joke ...

          - Wait! Who goes?
          - Gogia!
          - Say the password, Gogia!
          - Password!
          - Prahada, Gogia ...
  9. Dead duck
    Dead duck 2 May 2018 14: 42
    +5
    Troughs, troughs (not that our beauties), but still there ... arrange a show request
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 34
      +2
      Ksat, Vit, looked at him from the front ... Well, just a predator! Not like ours, good people, until they are touched ...
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 May 2018 14: 43
    0
    They will inspire confidence in Kiev sk-ot-am. Looks like henchmen will soon go, as the roads dry up.
  11. yehat
    yehat 2 May 2018 14: 48
    +1
    I think that the Turks are not at all happy that NATO’s ships have landed in the Black Sea and will insist on how it remains. In the end, it is they who control the Bosphorus.
  12. bald
    bald 2 May 2018 14: 50
    +2
    It would be nice to "kick" over them, pat the nerves. Let them be in a constant tension, it is very tiring.
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 2 May 2018 15: 08
      +4
      Quote: bald
      It would be nice to "kick" over them, pat the nerves. Let them be in a constant tension, it is very tiring.

      Probably at the “pre-flight briefing”: Taaaax! Who else didn’t fly over the gulls? Lieutenant Ivanov !!
      - Comrade Commander! Yes, I flew twice already!
      - Everything has already gone three times!
      - Can I then pass at an altitude of 500?
      - Why?
      - So below the stench from the collapsed, striped, even under a high-altitude mask breaks.
      - Okay, at 500, so at 500. laughing
      1. bald
        bald 2 May 2018 15: 22
        0
        And now, let them try other swim fans. good
      2. K-50
        K-50 2 May 2018 16: 31
        0
        Quote: kirgiz58
        So below the stench from the oversleeping gossip even under a high-altitude mask breaks.

        Set off !! good laughing
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 May 2018 14: 55
    +1
    As they entered, they will leave ... Ours will at least practice for real goals ...
  14. Ased
    Ased 2 May 2018 15: 05
    +4
    I find no reason to laugh and scuffle if the enemy fleet occasionally approaches the strike distance.
    1. Star
      Star 2 May 2018 15: 31
      +3
      I agree that if Ukraine "spins" it will be necessary to drown them all so that they would not engage in target designation and jamming. And this is a big war.
      Therefore, it is necessary to clearly, clearly and rigidly explain to them now who is the boss in this sea.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 2 May 2018 15: 36
      0
      What a hit? The whole Black Sea is shot through from the Crimea!
      1. Ased
        Ased 2 May 2018 15: 50
        +4
        Quote: sabakina
        What a hit? The whole Black Sea is shot through from the Crimea!


        And what areas of Russia are shot by axes from the Black Sea (well, say, near Odessa)? But there are options ...
        1. Pollux
          Pollux 2 May 2018 18: 23
          +1
          Quote: ASed
          And what areas of Russia are shot by axes from the Black Sea

          Nothing important is shot.
        2. Star
          Star 2 May 2018 22: 01
          0
          From the Black Sea, an ax will fly to Moscow, and with a nuclear warhead to St. Petersburg.
      2. Mr.
        Mr. 2 May 2018 15: 55
        +1
        And from Poland and Lithuania the territory is shot through to Moscow ...
        1. Ased
          Ased 2 May 2018 16: 06
          +1
          Fleet and territories ...
          How do you like this association?
          Heel guys with grenades in front of a crowd of people. Let also armed with grenades ...
          Where will the losses be greater?
      3. spbakm
        spbakm 2 May 2018 18: 16
        +1
        I apologize for the concern, perhaps to cover up the “extremely cunning tactics” of the Air Force which, as they say in this article, there are more than 100 NATO aircraft in the Black Sea region + Britain sent its fighters to Romania. The goal is if, God forbid, in the near future (days) new missile attacks on Damascus begin (both from the southeast, and in the case of complicating their impact on our and Syrian defense from the north) under the pretext of "aggression of the Iranian program" against the existence of the state of Israel, then this direction (as I assume) will come through the northern part of Turkey, between Trabzon and Batumi, as if in the direction of Iran (Tehran), but turned along the Turkish border between Batman and Mardin, in order to reach shock positions from the territory Syria, as indicated in the scheme of flight zones 4 and 3 of Jewish air strikes (Article 24 international news of May 02, 2018), which on the night of April 30 attacked the territory of Syria (Hama and Aleppo) with guided bombs and missiles in the direction of our bases, checking ( probing) and indicating to the Americans and Angles the depth of our defense, pushing them to action. They see that our bases on the sea side and the areas of Damascus are becoming even stronger, and here the Jews used “extremely cunning tactics”, pushing Trump to action, especially in the press Trump’s desire to attack Russian bases on Friday the 13th, if something goes wrong with them.
  15. Normal ok
    Normal ok 2 May 2018 16: 05
    0
    last year, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law according to which Ukraine’s membership in NATO is one of the priorities of foreign policy

    Having such "neighbors" have to get out.
  16. Monarchist
    Monarchist 2 May 2018 16: 14
    0
    As they entered, they will leave.
  17. lopvlad
    lopvlad 2 May 2018 16: 15
    +4
    The ships of the second permanent naval group of NATO entered the Black Sea last night


    why not take away is the fact that the USA has allies in reality and not on paper. And then we created alliances and the Collective Security Treaty Organization, but officially nobody recognized the territory of Russia as a member of these unions.
    Therefore, Russia has two allies in the form of an army and a navy.
  18. lopvlad
    lopvlad 2 May 2018 16: 18
    +1
    entered the Black Sea last night


    comes in and out great.
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 2 May 2018 16: 27
    +1
    For good reason, the NATO pelvis pinned up in the World Cup, exacerbations in Ukraine, guaranteed in Syria
  20. K-50
    K-50 2 May 2018 16: 30
    +1
    Something I have vague forebodings. Enemy aircraft at nearby airfields were added, both in the Baltic and over the Black Sea. In Polyandia, an additional tank brigade of pin dosniks is sent. Here still ships came to the Black Sea.
    This is not good. Oh no good. Where to bury them again? what In Ukraine, all chernozems have more than been fertilized for thousands of years, but here a new fertilizer has come, on its own. what laughing
  21. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 2 May 2018 16: 59
    0
    Turkish Navy TCG Gemlik (F492)
    This is a clear indicator of Turkey’s true intentions. It has covered its economy with non-burdensome and non-critical contracts with Russia. Meanwhile, NATO mechanisms work like clockwork and on the Incirlik base, and this is how we see it in the Black Sea. graters "with Z. Europe and the United States and under its cover continue to put pressure on Assad through pro-Turkish military units (more and more actively connecting their own army). The United States designated the Turks where they can’t go and they strictly adhere to the" correct "vector (from the point of view of the Coalition). Erdogan’s friend is still a fox! And all the articles about how we cleverly equip everything in Syria and Iraq with the help of a secret union of Russia, Turkey and Iran, of course, in the furnace!
  22. shirkoled
    shirkoled 2 May 2018 17: 14
    +1
    Americans run up and drag others along !!! And dill podmuzykayut, bitch !!! I repeat, a good Janissary - a dead Janissary !!!
  23. sir_obs
    sir_obs 2 May 2018 17: 22
    +1
    Well, come in and come in. There is a good opportunity to train diverse forces for real goals.
  24. fa2998
    fa2998 2 May 2018 17: 25
    0
    Quote: MAVRODI
    Going to war ...!

    No panic! The article is nothing! The Black Sea is international waters, let them swim! If only the restriction was fulfilled, but they didn’t enter the territorial waters. Let the submariners and the pilots train. hi
  25. next322
    next322 2 May 2018 17: 35
    +1
    Well, nothing, we will meet NATO from the Sevastopol bay ...... they will pull out the RKR with Moscow and SKR Ladny in the middle of the bay and slap along the enemy
  26. gippernano
    gippernano 2 May 2018 19: 11
    +2
    So it will be "Ball", to work out for real purposes. I would like to give the Britons a special, warm greetings from all Russians, right under the waterline
  27. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 2 May 2018 19: 30
    0
    Did Duncan get out of the repair? Or was it being towed? And why worry, with the exception of Duncan, everything else is junk, of varying degrees of rust.
  28. Antares
    Antares 2 May 2018 21: 10
    0

    HMS Duncan with colleagues (Carney and Ross) often visits Romania and Ukraine.

    Another visit is possible. And a reason to roll another article for those who can’t wait to drown something from the sofa.
  29. Dmitry Voronov
    Dmitry Voronov 2 May 2018 21: 57
    +2
    As if the ships on a mine of times of the Second World War did not run into.
  30. nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 2 May 2018 23: 25
    +1
    It’s a pity they won’t be blown up on mines left over from World War II.
    The echo of war ...
    It would be great.