In Beijing, talked about the progress of the creation of the Russian-Chinese aircraft

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said the general director of the joint venture.

Bochzhi expressed the hope that potential suppliers "will become a full part of the CR929 team and will be able to give the project the best technologies and best practices."

As noted in the release, at present, "a joint Russian-Chinese team has come to grips with work on an integrated technical solution of the aircraft."

The company added that in the design of the airliner hull "composite materials will be widely used."

Chinese SOMAS and the Russian UAC (United Aircraft Building Corporation) are in constant cooperation "to advance the development of the aircraft."

Recall, according to the agreement reached, the Chinese designers are responsible for the development of the aircraft body and tail unit. It is expected that the plans for the creation of the liner will be implemented by 2025-2027 years.

The aircraft with a capacity of 250-300 should compete with airliners of such famous companies as Airbus and Boeing. At the moment, the cost of the program is estimated in the range from 13-ti to 20 billion dollars.

Comments

[Hunter 2]

With the Chinese you can create ... only the Chinese! No need to deceive ourselves about China, they are not friends to us, so are temporary fellow travelers! Over the 4000 years of the existence of Chinese civilization - they have never entered into military-political alliances! I don’t know this country well, it’s a very peculiar nation, it pleases me that it’s not a nation of Wars, although they are trying in every possible way to fix it.
In the region - everyone hates them! probably not just like that.

[taiga2018]

Quote: Hunter 2

In the region - everyone hates them!

firstly, probably because the rich are always not very fond of, but secondly, the Chinese are very tough on debtors, in comparison with them, the IMF is just resting ...

[Hunter 2]

Do not make me laugh in China, there are more homeless people than the entire population of Russia! There is completely no social support for the population! And they hated them - their whole history, and sausages - Everyone is not lazy, including us! although there are always more ....
It’s just - a different world, a different worldview and perception of life! But ... they consider themselves - just the Color of civilization, sincerely!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Hunter 2

There is completely no social support for the population!

I read somewhere that a Chinese traveling outside the country is entitled to 5 thousand. dollars. This is so, no?

[cniza]

I don’t know how 5 thousand dollars. but pensions do not pay for sure.

[ALLxANDr]

Do not be fooled. Pensions in China pay, but not everyone. They pay only to state and municipal employees - and this is not a small crowd, comparable in number to the population of most states of the world.

[taiga2018]

Quote: Hunter 2

in China, there are more homeless people than the entire population of Russia!

I’m not talking about the population, but about the state, for that matter, the US has no less homeless people than ours, and maybe it’ll be more ...

Quote: Hunter 2

! But ... they consider themselves - just the Color of civilization, sincerely!

well, it didn’t arise today, they called their country in antiquity the “Celestial Empire”, themselves the most civilized (just like the West today), and the people around it were barbarians and savages ... this continued until the present “civilized” showed who is Who...

[okko077]

MAHRA, Tu-160 is an unpromising aircraft with an outdated design. Only severe necessity forces to reproduce and modify this "trash", and even as a step to prepare for the production of new modern aircraft ..... No need to repeat stupid things and engage in ridiculous fantasies ....

[Zaurbek]

This aircraft is produced only in the Russian Federation and for the Russian Federation there is no financial sense ... There is no market. pieces of 20 such aircraft fly in our country and that’s all, but for a normal business they need hundreds of 3 (at least). And so, I fully support it. Especially with the PL-35 engine ...

[den3080]

Such an aircraft must be reinforced with protectionist measures. Russia will not pull - the distances are suitable, but the population is small. China will not pull - the population is orgous, but the distances are not very large.
And together - that’s it!
Protectionism is not to buy Boeing / Airbasses after creating your own aircraft.
But this song is very long, as long as only a general concept.
Boeing and Airbus can: a) sleep peacefully and b) insert all sorts of sticks into the wheels.
For example, to introduce some new standards exactly at the end of the ROCKY test :))
So hard to believe.

[210ox]

Yeah .. With Chinese designers and everything attached. With their fuselage, avionics, tail .. Our apparently wings with mechanization, maybe engines .. Well, metal, where without it. Chinese composites .. I'm not against cooperation, the main thing that would not be to the detriment of our manufacturers.

Quote: MAHRA

With our designers and the Chinese money .. We can create a great liner! Well, God forbid.
Maybe on the basis of Tu -160 this stir up? (Putin suggested)))))

[Muvka]

Actually, our engine. PD-35. And this is the most important thing.

[Semen1972]

Quote: Muvka

Actually, our engine. PD-35. And this is the most important thing.

But there is no such engine yet .. And the timing of its appearance is very remote ... it is not known what tomorrow will be .. it’s more logical to put GE on a plane

[Gennadich]

Putin then offers, but for some reason everyone puts it on his proposal .. both in the world and within the country

[Semen1972]

Quote: Gennadich

Putin then offers, but for some reason everyone puts it on his proposal .. both in the world and within the country

So it’s not authority, if they put it ..

[Gennadich]

he never had authority, so a suitcase man .. look at the photo where Putin is with the oligarchs, see how Putin looks at the Deripaska and how the Deripaska looks at him, questions will disappear by themselves

[Semen1972]

Quote: Gennadich

authority, he has never been so-a suitcase man

And Putin is not an oligarch ??? Yes richer than all Deripasok put together. And the army and the courts and the media under it ... and what is Deripaska?

[mashinist]

I thought by 2025-2027 we would at least be supersonic, or even develop hypersound

[NEXUS]

The resuscitation of our civil aircraft industry is a good and necessary thing for the country. Only without fanaticism and projects such as the civilian TU-160.

[Bronevick]

If the plane is Russian-Chinese, then why does it have such a name? Would you call ROCKI (Russia-China) or Pekimos (Beijing-Moscow) or COMACOAK

[den3080]

and further modifications of ROCKY-2, ROCKY-3

[Seaflame]

Pekimos sounds))

[Semen1972]

Quote: Seaflame

Pekimos sounds))

yourself and fly at pecos

[Mountain shooter]

PD-30 will be used? But what about our IL-496?

[Gennadich]

and where is the superjet? sawed loot like with an E-mobile and voila then ms21 .. also odd not really crashed, now it's ... I hope you do not need to remind anyone in the airline corporation stupidly sawing the budget after that?

[Click]

Infa slipped GDP wants to allocate 20 billion for a superjet ... Coming soon Don `t doubt I'm sorry 85 billion ....

[Gennadich]

that is, there weren’t enough past billions - the “worms” at the posts didn’t get drunk now they are still asking? Hmm ..... sadness trouble ... straight flying "Zenith Arena"

[potterz]

Well, actually it is produced. Everything is fine and with orders for it!

[Zaurbek]

Produced 159

[Muvka]

Quote: Gennadich

and where is the superjet? sawed loot like with an E-mobile and voila then ms21 .. also odd not really crashed, now it's ... I hope you do not need to remind anyone in the airline corporation stupidly sawing the budget after that?

Superjet feels great. About 20-30 aircraft per year are produced. Recently, the S7 decided to buy 100 aircraft and Iran 40. But on the whole, I did not understand the mention of the SSJ - a narrow-body short-range aircraft, in the topic of wide-body long-range ...

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Gennadich

and where is the superjet? sawed loot like with an E-mobile and voila then ms21 .. also odd not really crashed, now it's ... I hope you do not need to remind anyone in the airline corporation stupidly sawing the budget after that?

You really do not see the difference between RJ and ShFDMS?

[vlad007]

Quote: Gennadich

and where is the superjet?

Stop trolling !!! "Cut the loot" is a favorite topic of people who do not know anything and do not want to know. Type in the search engine "Superjet100" and find out ALL information.
Superjet is released and the release is increasing every year. 160 units have been manufactured and put into operation today. A gradual replacement of imported components is planned. It is planned to launch the release of the SuperJet at 75 seats, the government has allocated 6 billion rubles for this project.

[Gennadich]

blah blah blah blah .... well, straight nightingales ....

[Abram]

Not take off. Russia itself in civil aviation as catching up. Then why is it for China if there is no technology

[okko077]

In vain you bury the Russian aviation industry .... PD-14 is a disruptive engine, modern and on its basis a whole line of PDs will be created. And for a superjet, the engine is half ours, only nowhere is there a layout of this half at a cost.
Do we need the Chinese because of the PD engine for the superliner, or do you also think that we are just invited? The Chinese know how to count money, and their dependence on pi_ndoskie engines does not suit them ...

[Zaurbek]

China, by the way, is focused on western 35t engines. Like Aeroflot in the first 50 MS-21s ... Our engines should start in our country, to prove their parameters and their reliability and service to them. And go ahead. And PD-35 also has an application in the energy sector.

[Abram]

Breakthrough? And where did he break through? Let's talk about what is now, and not about what will be unknown when. Now PD-14 in the series? - mine is not. then talk about this engine is nothing

[Serg65]

Quote: Abram

Russia itself in civil aviation as catching up

Quote: Gennadich

I hope you do not need to remind anyone in the airline corporation stupidly sawing the budget after that?

Are you twin brothers or are you feeding from the same feeder?

[Zaurbek]

There is an option to build a plane and get rights to it with co-financing. Moreover, this dimension is much more important for China than for us.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Abram

Not take off. Russia itself in civil aviation as catching up. Then why is it for China if there is no technology

Russia acquired from the Austrian company the technology for producing a composite wing, or rather the technology for manufacturing large elements from composite materials, autoclave-free. I do not know how it is now, but until recently, no one in the world made a whole wing of composites, except for the Russian Federation.

[tank66]

Maybe even the Chinese people will not allow the project budget to be effective.

[Gennadich]

it’s only stated here with the Chinese, but in fact they’ll just go to the grandmother’s don’t go .. the superjet has also been announced with world companies, and where is it?

[Zaurbek]

159 were produced And 150 more orders ... And thanks to him and experience, the MS-21 took off with the great participation of the Russian Federation as a supplier and designer. Thanks to the skills in designing the MS and its engine, we are participating in this project. As a result, we get the entire line of passenger aircraft, covering all ranges and dimensions. Is this not enough for you?

[Altona]

As I understand it, we are talking about a long-range aircraft with a capacity of 500-700 people with a PD-35 engine. Although the model is in the photo for some reason.

[Zaurbek]

for 250-350 people with two 35t engines ...

[Guillon]

I hope at least the Chinese engines will be domestic !? Otherwise, we do not need such cooperation for nothing !!!

[Altona]

Quote: Zaurbek

for 250-350 people with two 35t engines ...

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Yes, it’s not clear how much, some rubber ...

[Normal ok]

In Beijing, talked about the progress of the creation of the Russian-Chinese aircraft

Well done kitayozy, first they will reduce the technology, and then they will build an airplane themselves.

[iouris]

CR - Sino-Russian, i.e. mostly chinese. RF aircraft are no longer needed.

[Arkady Kharitonov]

you must first think about the engine. Engines for civilian aircraft are produced by only 3 corporations, two of them from the USA and one from England. If the supply of engines is prohibited, the planes will not fly. Russia is still only developing engines, and then slowly, and there is a long distance between the development and deployment of production