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In Kiev, told why not to stop the "North Stream-2"

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The Ukrainian government has less and less chances to stand up in the confrontation with the project to build the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, reports RIA News statement of former Minister of Energy of the country Edward Stavitsky.




According to Stavitsky, Europe "needs a balance due to the reduction of UK gas production in the North Sea", as well as the refusal of Germany and Belgium from nuclear energy.

Ukraine loses its chance to stand in this confrontation,
the former official complained on the NewsOne channel.

He stressed that Ukraine’s revenues “will be cut by at least half” after the commissioning of the Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream gas pipelines.

Stavitsky also recalled that Russia's share in the EU gas market is about a third.

Europe's gas consumption is about 425 billion cubic meters per year. Russia last year set a record and set about 150 billion cubic meters,
concluded the ex-minister.

The project "Nord Stream-2" involves the construction of 2-x gas pipeline with a total capacity of 55 billion cubic meters of fuel per year from the coast of the Russian Federation through the Baltic Sea to Germany. A new pipeline is being built next to the existing Nord Stream. The project is opposed by a number of countries, in particular, Ukraine, which fears losing revenues from the transit of Russian gas.
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  1. Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 2 May 2018 07: 48
    +13
    Would rather))
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 2 May 2018 07: 57
      +28
      I’m astounded from Ukraine, they’re not afraid to lose the country! belay And losing a penny is just a nightmare! fool
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 2 May 2018 08: 03
        +19
        In Kiev, told why not to stop the "North Stream-2"


        RIA Novosti reports the statement by the country's former energy minister, Eduard Stavitsky.


        This former Minister of Energy of Ukraine has long been living in Israel. And then Kiev? I am for objectivity.
        Kiev is still confident that if the Nord Stream-2 is completed, then it, like the Crimean Bridge, will be handed over to Ukraine’s management wassat laughing
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 2 May 2018 08: 11
          +16
          Ukraine loses its chance to survive in this confrontation

          How can one lose what was not? what
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 35
            +7
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            How can one lose what was not?

            but this is another mystery of the territory of 404
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 2 May 2018 08: 40
              +7
              Yes, all this is window dressing: once again remind of oneself and show how Russia let the nenka go around the world. crying
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 52
                +7
                but the army is the strongest on the continent. well, one of the strongest laughing
          2. hrych
            hrych 2 May 2018 09: 37
            +8
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            How can one lose what was not?

            Hello White Brother !!! drinks The chance was in 2014, when Syria would fall and Middle East and Arabian gas would be pulled to Europe, and the South Stream would be torpedoed. But the Supreme captured the Syrian shelf and strengthened our Assad. In the Donbass, there was a fierce mess with aircraft and tanks, but not a single banderlog encroached on the pipe. Blow up and business, but no. In addition to the expected gas shortage in the EU due to the depletion of its bowels, the abandonment of nuclear power plants and ... the cold snap due to the slowdown of the Gulf Stream, the Trans-Korean pipe will be a great blow when one of the Asian tigers gets cheap energy. European production of goods is of high quality, but their labor and social costs are large and are based on cheap Russian energy. The Chinese, on the other hand, take cheap labor without social programs at all, their energy costs are mainly on coal, which is very expensive, and low labor costs affect quality. Koreans live on LNG, which is very expensive, their labor costs are also expensive, but the quality does not suffer. Those. Korean goods - this is such an average, not the most expensive, not the cheapest, decent quality. This applies to both household appliances and large-scale engineering and special equipment. Yes, with cheap gas and lower transportation costs due to the land route to Europe, Korea will simply tear everyone apart. And in this scheme, the Russian Federation is a supplier of energy carriers and naturally production raw materials along the same routes, bypassing the sea, transit will go through Russia. By and large, nothing needs to be done and everything is needed.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 2 May 2018 10: 01
              0
              In fact, Outskirts have a chance.
              What was called there as a reason?

              Europe “needs a balance in connection with the reduction of Great Britain’s gas production in the North Sea”, as well as the rejection of nuclear energy by Germany and Belgium.


              What is the reduction in production? 2-3 billion, maximum 8?
              The balance can be corrected if the outskirts go completely to Pennsylvania coal, and all of its own gas production (20 billion) is sent to Germany.
              1. hrych
                hrych 2 May 2018 10: 20
                +6
                Quote: Pereira

                What is the reduction in production? 2-3 billion, maximum 8?

                In addition to Scottish wells, there is Norway, etc., where the jeep comes to an end. By 2020, gas production in the EU will first decline from the current 256 billion to 212 billion cubic meters per year, and by 2030 - generally to 146 billion cubic meters. Do not forget that this is its own gas, it is pipe and is cheaper. Those. even with the preservation of Ukrainian transit, by 2020 stupidly we need an additional joint venture branch that will cover 44 billion cubic meters only due to a decrease in its production. The capacity of SP-2 is 55 billion cubic meters per year. I repeat, while maintaining Ukrainian transit. And 20 years, now. Yes SP-2 urgently needs to be built. And they stop nuclear power plants, and this is a quarter of Germany’s energy sector, and Belgium, and the Netherlands ... Well, they didn’t let Qatari gas get through the pipes and did not start pumping Syrian gas. Everything, time is gone, even now, they capture Syria. In addition to SP-2, there is no alternative, except Donald’s LNG, because it is an expensive dog and the infrastructure is not designed. And if you close the ukroventil, then you need to build a joint venture-3 in general, well, there, the Turkish stream still take Europe to the ticks. Yes, and the Syrian will, but through Gazprom laughing And Qatar FIG. And do not forget that the joint venture does not pay transit at all, the price of gas is cheaper than through Ukrainian transit unequivocally. Also, the Poles will receive gas through the same pipe, but as a reverse from Germany. And if the Germans themselves are not enough, then someone will burn the dung. Now the Poles are upstream and they can urinate in the water intake, but it will be the other way around wassat
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 2 May 2018 15: 42
                  +1
                  It was a joke of humor.
                  You would read my post further.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 2 May 2018 20: 35
                    0
                    Quote: Pereira
                    You would read my post further.

                    I read about Pennsylvania coal, but it's worth khroshi. And most importantly, coal is much more expensive than gas, plus transportation costs wassat So there’s still a problem, the pipe must first be filled and then driven to Germany laughing Another trouble, then something else is not from Poland and co. gas will go to Germany, and from Germany to Poland by reverse wassat Well, no way. Although there is a dung wassat and ground wassat
            2. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 2 May 2018 17: 07
              +2
              Hello buddy and my brother! hi drinks Well you laid out the layout - briefly and succinctly! good drinks soldier
        2. 210ox
          210ox 2 May 2018 08: 23
          +5
          Yes, this is ex, he can. And in that "Danish kingdom" they are sure that they will not do without transit through them ...
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          In Kiev, told why not to stop the "North Stream-2"


          RIA Novosti reports the statement by the country's former energy minister, Eduard Stavitsky.


          This former Minister of Energy of Ukraine has long been living in Israel. And then Kiev? I am for objectivity.
          Kiev is still confident that if the Nord Stream-2 is completed, then it, like the Crimean Bridge, will be handed over to Ukraine’s management wassat laughing
        3. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 2 May 2018 08: 40
          +2
          Hello Vyacheslav hi By the way, yes, he also gave an interview to Sharia from Israel.
        4. Nick
          Nick 2 May 2018 09: 32
          +3
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Kiev is still confident that if the Nord Stream-2 is completed, then it, like the Crimean Bridge, will be handed over to Ukraine’s management

          Yes, what is there, and the Northern Sea Route in addition laughing
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 2 May 2018 08: 10
        +9
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And losing a penny is just a nightmare!

        So for these same they sold everything (honor, conscience, homeland)!
        And now they (pennies) are leaving under the nose, offensively you understand.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 36
          +5
          Quote: You Vlad
          And now they (pennies) are leaving under the nose, offensively you understand.

          Freebies. and this is the most important thing for them laughing
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 2 May 2018 08: 40
            +1
            Quote: LSA57
            Freebies. and this is the most important thing for them

            For someone like! For normal people, this is terrible money (30 silver coins), for which then you still have to answer.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 54
              +1
              Quote: You Vlad
              For normal people, this is scary money (

              do you think there are so many left there?
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 2 May 2018 09: 00
                +2
                Quote: LSA57
                do you think there are so many left there?

                Yes, as much as we have! The question is that they conducted media processing of the population for 20 years to Ukrainize the population and demonize Russia!
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 2 May 2018 09: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  Yes, as much as ours!

                  let me disagree hi
                  we have much more normal people.
                  judging by at least this site hi
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 2 May 2018 09: 11
                    0
                    Quote: LSA57
                    let me disagree
                    we have much more normal people.
                    judging by at least this site

                    This is all dirty politics and you, it’s you, its victim hi Regards wink
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 2 May 2018 09: 20
                      +2
                      Quote: You Vlad
                      This is all dirty politics and you, it’s you, its victim

                      belay I didn’t think and did not know ...
                      1. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 2 May 2018 09: 23
                        0
                        Quote: LSA57
                        I didn’t think and did not know ...

                        You processed media, you absorbed!
                        Otherwise, you would not write this:
                        Quote: LSA57
                        let me disagree
                        we have much more normal people.
                  2. Simargl
                    Simargl 2 May 2018 09: 18
                    +1
                    Quote: LSA57
                    we have much more normal people.
                    Yeah! Only not the normal ones go in packs.
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 2 May 2018 09: 30
                      +2
                      Quote: Simargl
                      Yeah! Only non-normal ones get in packs

                      and jackals always live in a pack. nature ... our mother
                  3. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 2 May 2018 09: 27
                    +2
                    Sergey, time will pass and we will again live together in one country, as one people should live! hi
      3. svp67
        svp67 2 May 2018 08: 24
        +5
        Quote: Hunter 2
        I’m astounded from Ukraine, they’re not afraid to lose the country!

        And why are they afraid of losing what is already lost. Their country is the overseas territory of the United States.
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And losing a penny is just a nightmare!

        So they also have to look somewhere. And not them, they are already. If the United States manages to overwhelm SP-2, the gas transportation system of Ukraine will very quickly be under US control. And this is direct income and the ability to put pressure on gas prices in Europe
        1. 210ox
          210ox 2 May 2018 08: 36
          +4
          An example of this Stavitsky is indicative ... Ukraine is not his country, he pulled out everything that is possible and moved out.
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Hunter 2
          I’m astounded from Ukraine, they’re not afraid to lose the country!

          And why are they afraid of losing what is already lost. Their country is the overseas territory of the United States.
          Quote: Hunter 2
          And losing a penny is just a nightmare!

          So they also have to look somewhere. And not them, they are already. If the United States manages to overwhelm SP-2, the gas transportation system of Ukraine will very quickly be under US control. And this is direct income and the ability to put pressure on gas prices in Europe
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 2 May 2018 09: 13
          0
          Therefore, cn-2-must be forced in any way.
      4. Orionvit
        Orionvit 2 May 2018 08: 24
        +5
        Quote: Hunter 2
        they’re not afraid to lose the country!

        For this, it was created that would be a penny to grab. For some, the country is the homeland and place of residence of their children, for others, a means of gain at all costs. Of course, there are enough of these in Russia (now especially already in London), but Ukraine has broken all conceivable (and unthinkable) records.
      5. Star
        Star 2 May 2018 09: 05
        0
        So they sold it for pennies.
        The fee for the participation of high school students and students on the Maidan was 50-30 bucks.
        1. svp67
          svp67 2 May 2018 09: 17
          0
          Quote: Asterisk
          The fee for the participation of high school students and students on the Maidan was 50-30 bucks.

          Bucks? It’s someone who’s “cut” the money so well ... from 100 to 250 Hryvnia ... This, at that rate, is from 12 to 25 US dollars
      6. passerby
        passerby 2 May 2018 19: 04
        0
        The country was created to earn pennies by a narrow circle of the elect, so if there are no pennies, then why do they need a country?
    2. Sergey Polt
      Sergey Polt 2 May 2018 11: 28
      0
      And who knows when Denmark will give permission, well, or will not? ..
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 May 2018 07: 56
    +9
    Whether or not they will build a joint venture-2, Ukraine only one hell ... Transit can not be seen. Russia is already redirecting oil to China, and gas too ... And there looms a pipeline to Korea. Yes, and decent power. And there Japan will catch up wassat why does she need expensive LNG?
    1. 1vlad19
      1vlad19 2 May 2018 08: 55
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Russia is already redirecting oil to China

      Oil has long been coming to China, through Skovorodino.
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And there Japan will catch up

      They already buy gas from Sakhalin, gas carriers. And pull the thread to Japan ... Where is it from? From Sakhalin? But what about the Khabarovsk Territory, Primorsky Territory? Why did we remodel CHP under gas?
    2. hrych
      hrych 2 May 2018 09: 44
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Japan will catch up, why is it expensive LNG?

      After the Trans-Korean pipeline, the Japanese can not just get off LNG, they are obliged to do this; otherwise, the Korean tiger will knock them out of all product niches. Moreover, the pipe can go further along the bottom of the Tsushima Strait. Although Koreans, by principle, will buy all the gas on the vine laughing so as not to give a chance to competitors. Moreover, let the Americans sit there and protect this company, which is advantageous to us, from envious Chinese, those from the Trans-Korean pipe are also in complete sadness. They say Ira they eliminated when he agreed with Putin, driving along the future Silk Road in an armored train. And do not forget the southerners in the North will set up factories and assembly shops, there are plenty of free hard workers.
      1. geniy
        geniy 2 May 2018 11: 36
        +1
        Dear Grunt !! I always admire your posts and constantly give you pluses, it’s a pity that you can’t several at once. But please answer the questions:
        Despite the bright prospects for SP-2, in fact, two countries: Denmark and Sweden still have not given their permission to build a pipeline along their sections of the seabed. And although Denmark can be easily circumvented. but what about Sweden?
        And also: and if you return to the South Stream project in Bulgaria? But not by the deep bottom of the Black Sea, but by shallow water - that is, to use gas pipelines of the Crimea and from Sevastopol to the Bulgarian coast only 300 kilometers. And if you divide these 300 km in half, and just at the border of the seabed between Russia and Bulgaria make a connection.
  3. GLAVPUR
    GLAVPUR 2 May 2018 08: 06
    +8
    Ukraine wanted to turn into a big farm, it achieved this ..!
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine 2 May 2018 08: 57
      +1
      Rather, in a large and cheap brothel for Europe.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 2 May 2018 09: 08
        0
        Quote: Wolverine
        Rather, in a large and cheap brothel for Europe.

        as Cuba used to be for America
  4. 100500
    100500 2 May 2018 08: 22
    +4
    SP-2 will not stop just because it is beneficial for Europe and especially for Germany. In addition, Ukraine has long shown itself in all its glory.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 39
      +6
      Quote: 100500
      In addition, Ukraine has long shown itself in all its glory.

      1. 100500
        100500 2 May 2018 09: 13
        +2
        You’re burning)) But seriously, it is so.
  5. victorsh
    victorsh 2 May 2018 08: 24
    +3
    “Abaldet.” And about a new increase in gas prices in Russia, what can we say? I watched VESTI 24. Small “businesses” and taxes are to blame. It’s in the mining and processing country. They raised the minimum wage and pensions? Don’t tell. For a week (in Novosibirsk) 92 has risen in price on 70 cop-liter (Gazpromneft). Lukoil on 1,20. And ALL are normal. Now housing and communal services with a calm "conscience" (they do not have it) can increase heating and hot water tariffs. Etc and etc. You can write a lot, meaning NO.
    PS Four years a "Crimean". In Novosibirsk, I have never seen a Kerch Hamsa (there were fakes). Massandra port-seasoned-tzh. no. What Crimean did not see can be listed for a long time.
    PSS I’ll go home to Crimea on vacation. I told my colleague about it. The passenger heard and said: No need to go there, it's cheaper to Thailand. It's a shame!
  6. LMN
    LMN 2 May 2018 08: 26
    +4
    The Ukrainian government has fewer chances to withstand a confrontation with the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline construction project, RIA Novosti reports a statement by the country's ex-Minister of Energy Eduard Stavitsky.

    Come on.. what
    Suddenly.. lol

    The United States did not survive with the coalition. All hope remained in Ukraine with the Baltic states .. and here you are request
  7. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 May 2018 08: 50
    +2
    Stavitsky, like Ishchenko, like Azarov, like Yanukovych, are an exiled oppositionist to the current pro-American junta. An understanding person. Several times at Shariy, he gave estimates and gave predictions. But! If the leadership of Ukraine is just the Funny Pictures magazine, which is distributed by the publisher - the US leadership (the Fed and those who actually run the Fed), then what are the forecasts?
    By the way, the US Federal Reserve decided to replace the passports of Russian citizens with identification cards.
    You will say: "Constitution of the Russian Federation." Yes, they spat on the Constitution of the Russian Federation, on the Duma, on the President. Because all these figures are also created by them - the US Federal Reserve and their masters. So, the game of "bad" - "good" continues. The population is also shown "Funny Pictures". And in general: “There is no money, but you - hold on! We gave all the money to the USA so that they would not touch us, the“ elite ”.
    And you say: "Stavitsky"
  8. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 2 May 2018 09: 06
    0
    Take in the threaded gas pipelines of Europe.
  9. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket 2 May 2018 09: 17
    0
    But how is the money from the occupier laughing s
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  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 2 May 2018 10: 12
    0
    There will be a North 3)))
  12. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 May 2018 10: 34
    0
    Enough to feed the squamous and parasite parasites and healers ..
  13. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 May 2018 12: 14
    0
    Like it or not, but the German economy, gas through the Nord Stream is more profitable, cheaper, because transit fees for foreign territory are excluded.
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 May 2018 12: 17
    0
    Well recognized, so what? Americans will come up with some other dirty tricks,
    to accuse us of bad deeds in relation to Ukraine.
    The fact that in Ukraine the people will even more begin to die out and scatter,
    it’s not a problem, it’s just the country's arrival at an equilibrium point.
    At one time, we pushed the country up, preventing it from slipping into poverty.
    And now we don’t do it and the country takes that very place
    on which she has the right to count.
  15. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 3 May 2018 09: 05
    0
    Quote: pafegosoff
    We gave all the money to the USA so that they would not touch us, the "elite".

    If you gave everything! money, then why touch the elite? Is there anything else that has been caged?