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To remember. Anniversary of the Odessa tragedy

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Today is 4 since the terrible tragedy in Odessa, which divided the newest history cities on “before” and “after”. Hundreds of Odessans, protesting against the unconstitutional coup and rampant radicals, against persecution of the Russian language and historical traditions, set up a tent camp on the Kulikovo Field 1-2 in May 2014. The first fights between the representatives of Antimaydan and the radical “ultras” took place on Grecheskaya Square, eventually moving to Kulikovo Field.


The campground was eventually destroyed. Anti-Maidan participants were forced to hide from the attackers in the House of Trade Unions. As you know, the building after a while was engulfed in flames. People tried to escape from the fire by jumping out of the windows. The radicals locked the doors, and for those who tried to escape, they opened fire from small and traumatic weapons. Those who jumped out of the windows and received serious injuries were beaten on the ground in the literal sense of the word - to death.

The official data on the victims of the rampant radicals are: 48 dead, 250 injured. 42 people died in the House of Trade Unions, six more - during the massacre in Greek Square.

Odessa deputy Vadim Savenko says that the authorities have hidden the real number of the dead, who, according to him, are 116 people.

To remember. Anniversary of the Odessa tragedy


Until now, the real culprits of the terrible tragedy have not been punished. Moreover, the Ukrainian investigation is doing everything to establish the version of the guilt of the victims themselves - allegedly a fire broke out due to the fact that they threw petrol bombs from the windows and from the roof of the House of Trade Unions.

In the State Duma of Russia, the events in Odessa 2 of May 2014 were regarded as a repetition of the crimes of the Nazis in Khatyn and Auschwitz.

Today, actions in memory of the victims of the Odessa tragedy will be held in different cities of Russia, including the capital.
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 2 May 2018 06: 45
    +10
    I hope that the time will soon come when each of these geeks will receive a lifetime!
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 2 May 2018 07: 01
      +13
      We all hope, but so far there have been no progress. The concrete organizers and active participants in the massacre of Russians in Odessa are probably well-known among the people, is it not time for the special services to act as the Israelis at one time responded to the killing of their athletes in Munich.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 07: 08
        +12
        Quote: Tatar 174
        ... organizers and active participants ... probably all known among the peopleisn't it time special services to act...

        Or maybe it's ... to the people hands to work?
        But how what - so "we are the people", and how to give someone a snout - so about special services immediately remember.
        Doesn’t build somehow, no?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 2 May 2018 07: 27
          +10
          Igor Nemodruk, participant in the tragic events of May 2, 2014 in Odessa, writer, author of the book “Kulikovo Field”, leader of the public movement “Front of Odessa Resistance”, emphasized that the inhabitants of Odessa who opposed the regime that had seized power in Kiev were then naive, unfired, and unprepared for power confrontation, while the junta was already preparing reprisals against participants in protests.
          A few days before May 2, he came to Odessa who then held the post of secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, the ex-leader of "Self-defense of the Maidan" Andrey Parubiy. He delivered weapons and body armor to pro-Maidan extremists. It was Parubiy who coordinated the actions of the radicals led by the action movie Nikolai Volkov, better known as the “centurion Mikola”. Also on the eve of the tragedy, pro-Nazi-minded football fans were brought to Odessa from Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Kiev, Lviv, and other cities - the Ultras, the Maidan Self-Defense, and the Right Sector fighters.

          Maidan fighters began to flock to Odessa 2 weeks before the tragedy. They settled down at recreation centers provided by the authorities, were on duty along with traffic cops at the entrances to the city. AND On the night of May 2, a special letter train with pacekeepers arrived from Kharkov.

          The main sponsor of the radicals made the Dnepropetrovsk governor-oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, who nominated a prize of $ 5 for the head of every killed Odessa citizen.

          On the evening of May 2, a football match was to be held in Odessa between the local “Chernomorets” and the Kharkov “Metalist”, to which the Ultras allegedly came. Already from the train they left with shields and sticks and batons sticking out of their backpacks. They already knew what would happen. They tasted the blood, were organized, clearly structured, and knew what they were doing. "

          In order to somehow justify the planned massacre, the Ukrainian radicals staged a provocation with firing in the center of Odessa on Grecheskaya Street, which killed at least one of the militants. After that, organized and armed neo-Nazis moved towards the camp of pro-Russian activists on the Kulikovo field and defeated him. Some of the inhabitants of Odessa retreated to the building of the House of Trade Unions, where the tragedy occurred.

          See in detail. - http://x-true.info/69620-chernyy-den-odessy-ukrai
          nskie-nacisty-gotovyat-novuyu-tragediyu-2-maya.ht
          ml
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 May 2018 08: 07
            +6
            The fire in the House of Trade Unions claimed, according to official figures, the lives of 48 people. According to unofficial information, the death toll exceeded 300 people.
            Trying to escape from a burning building, people who were brutalized by Maidan fighters were shot or beaten to death. The police were practically inactive. Radicals did not allow firefighters and ambulances to the burning building.
            The main sponsor of the radicals, the Dnepropetrovsk governor-oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, appointed a prize of $ 5 for the head of every killed Odessa citizen.
            TOTAL radicals earned on their victims
            $ 5k x 300 people. = $ 1,5 million.
            From greed, they tried not to let a single Odessa citizen and Odessa citizen out of a burning building!

            Remember and compare, why was the pregnant worker of the Trade Unions House, who was watering potted flowers there on that tragic day, brutally strangled by the “hero” of Ukraine?
            Just for $ 5000!

            Or maybe for $ 10000
            - taking into account the unborn baby present in her mother’s womb!


            Remember the scrupulous video reports of the radicals - for Kolomoisky - about counting the number of corpses of victims in the building of the Odessa House of Trade Unions!
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 12
              +6
              Quote: Tatiana
              Remember and compare why a pregnant worker of the Trade Unions House, who was watering potted flowers there that day, was brutally strangled by the “hero” of Ukraine!

              I remember these shots as she screamed terribly and asked for help.
              а nonhumans stood below and laughed.
              and most of all, it was amazing how “moiakhataskrai” walked with families, with children and filmed all this horror on mobile phones
              1. Phoenix_L'vov
                Phoenix_L'vov 3 May 2018 08: 37
                +1
                Tatyana, who was killed by the Nazis, Irina Yakovenko was not pregnant, she was just an elderly, a little plump woman ...
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              1. svp67
                svp67 2 May 2018 09: 14
                +5
                Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
                Irina Yakovenko, who was killed by the Nazis, was not pregnant, she was just an elderly, a little plump woman ...

                Even if she was not pregnant, who is entitled to, KILL a person like that?
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 May 2018 11: 47
                +6
                Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
                Irina Yakovenko, who was killed by the Nazis, wasn’t pregnant, she was just old, A LITTLE FULL WOMAN ...

                You have been deceived! You can’t be so naive! You probably can't draw at all.
                Look closely at the proportions of the victim’s body!
                So that in a woman’s profile, the thickness of her waist would be 2 times greater than the thickness of her chest with her mammary glands - even at full ?! This does not happen !!!
                Where will you find such an elderly woman - and even in a supine position ?! When the abdominal mass rolls out horizontally, like a pancake, and then everything in the stomach stands on end - and after death! But after death, the muscles generally lose their elasticity and the corpse is flattened.
                So, this happens with the stomach only in pregnant women, starting in the 5th month of pregnancy.
                And it was immediately determined that the woman was pregnant! And no one in the first place even denied this.
                And the fact that they later announced that a pensioner Irina Yakovenko is in the photo, then this is understandable why. Too moral atrocities for the public - especially in the West - was this murder! So they started talking about the allegedly dead pensioner Irina Yakovenko. But the picture is clearly a pregnant woman.

                And the investigation itself in Ukraine on this case in Odessa about a fire in the House of Trade Unions has no confidence either. Moreover, it was never finished.
                1. Phoenix_L'vov
                  Phoenix_L'vov 3 May 2018 08: 25
                  +1
                  Tatyana, teach, please, materiel. Of course, no one had the right to kill a man, but Irina Yakovenko, who was killed by the Nazis, was really not pregnant - see for yourself, here is a link to information on Irina, from the words of her daughter:
                  http://podumaj.com/post/401
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 3 May 2018 11: 05
                    +1
                    С
                    Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
                    Of course, no one had the right to kill a man, but Irina Yakovenko, who was killed by the Nazis, was really not pregnant - see for yourself, here is a link to information on Irina, from the words of her daughter: http: //podumaj.com/post/401

                    Thank! I watched. I have not seen this information before. I am impressed by the information of those days.
                    It seems that this is really Irina Yakovenko - and even the blouse on her seems to be the same. In general, you convinced me that Irina Yakovenko was not pregnant.
                    However, what does that change? I have a question for you.
                    But what, would that Nazi or just a mercenary bandit, who had come from nowhere, stop before strangling a pregnant woman on May 2 in the House of Trade Unions, if he were not Irina Yakovenko, but a pregnant victim? Of course not! After all, before his eyes, it’s not a man, but a production of 5000 bucks! The killers organizedly arrived for EARNINGS in Odessa - to kill people!

                    Russian journalists filmed a similar situation in Syria, probably about 3 years ago. Namely, they shot what ISIS "militants" were doing there and various drug addict bandits who had joined them under this bench. Different rabble from around the world was then there before the dope.
                    It turned out that for 5 cut off human heads the bandits were paid only $ 100. But for this, it was necessary for a certain person to simply present a photograph with 5 cut off heads as evidence of the murder, so that all the time there were different people on them. And the addicts there under the fake cries of "Allahu Akbar!" they cut their heads in a row to all ordinary civilian passers-by who had the recklessness of getting caught in their way. To just make money for the next dose of drugs and get your $ 100!
                    When asked by reporters where the $$$ from the one who pays them in American dollars for this, they replied that this did not interest them at all.
                    1. Phoenix_L'vov
                      Phoenix_L'vov 3 May 2018 14: 07
                      +2
                      Yes, for the Ukrainian Nazis there is nothing sacred - this is a sect, ready to kill everyone who opposes them. Would even a pregnant woman be in place of Yakovenko - they would have killed in the same way, there is no doubt about this, what else could be expected from the scum that, according to a number of reports, went to this slaughterhouse under the influence of narcotic substances - “Captagon”?
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 4 May 2018 02: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
                        what else to expect from scum, which, according to some reports, went to this slaughterhouse under the influence of narcotic substances - "Captagon"?

                        The “Maidan fighters” received from abroad not only money, but also drugs, which were also freely and cheaply sold on the “Euromaidan”. In April 2014, the acting the mayor of Kiev V. Bondarenko admitted that in the seized city hall during the "EuroMadan" there was a drug manufacturing workshop. Then drugs were massively distributed to murderers in Odessa on May 2.

                        In industrial quantities, the chemistry for the production of Captagon was delivered to Ukraine, in particular, on May 11, when the board arrived at the Kiev airport in strict secrecy, from which the containers with chemistry and packaging were unloaded with ready-made amphetamine tablets. The cargo was escorted by CIA officer Richard Michael and 70 mercenaries from the Polish PMC. At the direction of the Kiev Security Service, the fighters, cargo and containers with chemicals were not inspected and left the airport building in tinted cars.
                        (See - https://dfedbees.livejournal.com/451004.html)

            3. rotor
              rotor 2 May 2018 09: 41
              +5
              And after all these inhuman crimes, they still claim that they are not Bandera!
          2. Antares
            Antares 2 May 2018 21: 38
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            Ukrainian radicals staged a provocation with shooting in the center of Odessa on Grecheskaya Street, which killed at least one of the militants

            there are two march participants (not militants)
            Yes, and Boatswain that was at the same time with the radicals?
            biased.
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 2 May 2018 07: 28
          +5
          I absolutely agree with you. For some reason, the banderlogs are perfectly organized, but it doesn’t reach normal people that this is their country and they should live in it ?!
          1. venik
            venik 2 May 2018 08: 01
            +17
            Quote: Phil77
            I absolutely agree with you. For some reason, the banderlogs are perfectly organized, but it doesn’t reach normal people that this is their country and they should live in it ?!

            =========
            You simply did not see HOW all this happened during the "Maidan events2 in Kiev!"
            1. Almost ALL The media suddenly, "as if on command," began to "trumpet" first about "vicious" power, then about "atrocities" ("they are children") ...
            2. In many universities, classes suddenly stopped (and where is it interesting that young people will explode? Where is it "interesting"!) ....
            3. 'Somebody"organized a" supply "of radicals (especially from the Western regions, and others too) by buses and trains ....
            4. Again "somebody"organized a tent camp on Khreshchatyk ......
            5. Where the crowd gathered (or a large group of people), young guys appeared immediately (notice everything in red jackets (different styles, of course, but in red ones (bright and noticeable) and with megaphones! These guys are shouting (obviously in advance memorized (!) slogans immediately began to "organize" the crowd and stir up passions (by the way - very skillfully!) and direct it to the "right" place !!
            6. As soon as the passions on the Maidan began to subside (for example, before the New Year 2014, when frosts hit), in the tent city (again "somebody"began to bring homeless people from all areas, dressed them in" camouflage ", fed them, and most importantly - wateredb, creating the illusion of a continuous "protest marathon" ...
            ---
            Why am I writing this all? Yes, just to remind you - FOR ALL of this - there were VERY serious forces that did HUGE preparatory work and invested HUGE funds! Society literally MANIPULATED!!! And very ABLE!
            Therefore, the question "WHERE WERE NORMAL people were somewhat out of place! WERE! But they could not do ANYTHING in this situation! Because they were DISCONNECTED!
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 15
              +5
              Quote: venik
              Why am I writing this all? Yes, just to remind you - FOR ALL of this - there were VERY serious forces that did HUGE preparatory work and invested HUGE funds! Society literally MANIPULATED !!! And very ABLE!

              there are records of nuland conversations, where she plainly says how much was invested in it
              1. venik
                venik 2 May 2018 08: 24
                +6
                Quote: LSA57
                there are records of nuland conversations, where she plainly says how much was invested in it

                ========
                Yes! There was announced the figure of 5 "yards" of "green" (spent on "development democracy in Ukraine "!!!) ..... True, allegedly since 1992 .....
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 43
                  +3
                  Quote: venik
                  Yes! There was announced the figure of 5 "yards" "greens"

                  Do you think on the Maidan this only happened? smile
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 2 May 2018 08: 31
              +6
              But this is a question of questions! WHY normal people are almost always DISCONNECTED!?!
            3. You Vlad
              You Vlad 2 May 2018 08: 36
              +7
              Quote: venik
              who have done HUGE preparatory work and invested HUGE funds! Society literally MANIPULATED !!! And very ABLE!
              Therefore, the question "WHERE WERE NORMAL people were somewhat out of place! WERE! But they could not do ANYTHING in this situation! Because they were DISCONNECTED!

              So I always say the same thing! The people are not able to organize themselves, for this we need a lot of money and trained people!
              Here are the Ukrainians pros and their country, and we, yes we (Russians)!
              And we would be there (in opera) if our elites had surrendered us! Why all these lists? And all the same ... Separate, tear, bleed, and finally rob!
            4. armourer
              armourer 2 May 2018 11: 53
              +1
              Even the devils came from America, hang out there.
            5. Normal ok
              Normal ok 2 May 2018 16: 21
              +2
              "Maidan" could take place for only one reason - the colossal support of the protest from ordinary people. There, in addition to the "radicals", there were really constantly under 100 thousand ordinary people constantly.
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 2 May 2018 07: 58
          +4
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And how something - so "we are the people", and how to give someone a snout - so you immediately remember about the special services.

          but it’s easier. called Mayahataskrai
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 08: 04
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            it's easier. called

            I'm not talking about that a bit.
            I’m talking about the highly gifted, who, for all the problems (no matter whose. Ukrov, Assad, Persians, ... continue the sequence), are trying to sign exclusively the special services (or armed forces) of the Russian Federation. Found, damn it, magic wand request
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 19
              +3
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Found, damn it, magic wand

              moreover, as soon as a petty deputy, or a journalist from a yellow leaflet blurt something at Russia, right where are our special services? immediately seize him, take him out and bring him to justice
        4. New Year day
          New Year day 2 May 2018 08: 22
          +3
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Or maybe it's ... people work hands?

          in the early years, information was sometimes passed on the deaths of some of the burners. Someone fell from the roof, someone was stabbed to death. Active left for Russia, some hid, someone took over the new government
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 28
            +2
            Quote: Silvestr
            in the early years, information was sometimes passed on the deaths of some of the burners. Someone fell from the roof, someone was stabbed to death.

            from the photo where three girls pour "Molotov cocktails" they were identified. students. from social networks, they immediately removed their accounts. then there was infa that one was found strangled in the catacombs, the second drowned. It turned out to be fake. everybody is alive request
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok 2 May 2018 16: 17
              +2
              Quote: LSA57
              from the photo where three girls pour "Molotov cocktails" they were identified. students. from social networks, they immediately removed their accounts. then there was infa that one was found strangled in the catacombs, the second drowned. It turned out to be fake. everybody is alive

              Fake, everyone is alive and well.
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          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 08: 57
            +4
            Quote: Orionvit
            Come to Odessa and work

            Why do I need to go to Odessa? I’m at home, you know, I’m working.
            Quote: Orionvit
            Advise your wife

            Rude is harmful.
            I advised you not, but to the person who wants to sign the special services of the Russian Federation “for Odessa”.
            Feeling?
        6. APIS
          APIS 2 May 2018 10: 37
          +6
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Tatar 174
          ... organizers and active participants ... probably all known among the peopleisn't it time special services to act...

          Or maybe it's ... to the people hands to work?
          But how what - so "we are the people", and how to give someone a snout - so about special services immediately remember.
          Doesn’t build somehow, no?

          Nobody hopes for the state.
          In the Russian Federation, the state program “Save Yourself” has long been in operation. An exception is only for Rotenbergs, Deripassas, Abramovichs, and even then cut money at the expense of pensioners.
          Bandera junta recognized.
          And the sailors from the Nord save themselves. Or are they not citizens of the Russian Federation? Or maybe second-class citizens?
          Special services and the competent authorities of our volunteers are being massacred, militias are given to Bandera.
          Where did the “donors to the snout" last differ?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 2 May 2018 12: 22
            +3
            Quote: APIS
            And the sailors from the Nord save themselves.

            did they issue passports to themselves? Or are you again about the special operation of the special forces?
        7. Normal ok
          Normal ok 2 May 2018 16: 16
          +4
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Or maybe it’s ... to work the people with their hands? But how that - so "we are the people", and how to give someone the snout - so you immediately remember about the special services.

          Distort the dearest. It is the “people” that contain the special services on their taxes so that they carry out their work.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 16: 19
            +4
            Quote: Normal ok
            It is the “people” that contain the special services on their taxes so that they carry out their work

            Verily. Exactly its.
            But since when did the punishment of the freaks who made disgrace in Odessa become “their own business” for the special services of the Russian Federation - I somehow do not understand this.
            Do not explain, if possible?
            1. Antares
              Antares 2 May 2018 21: 43
              0
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Do not explain, if possible?

              maybe a hint of
              Verenikina Anna Anatolyevna
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 22: 56
                0
                Quote: Antares
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Do not explain, if possible?

                maybe a hint of
                Verenikina Anna Anatolyevna

                Don't understand sorry request
              2. Normal ok
                Normal ok 2 May 2018 23: 18
                +1
                Quote: Antares
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Do not explain, if possible?

                maybe a hint of
                Verenikina Anna Anatolyevna

                Perhaps I haven't left yet in May, - explain howl thought. Notice not rude.
        8. igorka357
          igorka357 3 May 2018 08: 54
          +1
          It is true that the glorious city is to blame for this tragedy, the hero of Odessa, and by it I mean its inhabitants ... 200-300 frostbitten people bent spineless Odessaites ... when it was such a shame ...!
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 2 May 2018 08: 40
        +2
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Isn’t it time for the special services to act as the Israelis at one time

        What special services, or rather whose? While Russia will recognize this historic Ukrainian misunderstanding as a state, there will be no business.
      3. friend of animals
        friend of animals 2 May 2018 11: 11
        +3
        What are we talking about, we are not Israel and not the United States, they would not have let this go. The power solution was not the only one. One could at least not recognize the new Ukrainian authorities, introduce their own sanctions, etc. A blow to the economy would be palpable.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 2 May 2018 12: 22
          +2
          Quote: friend of beasts
          A blow to the economy would be tangible

          the fact that it has already been lowered below the bottom is not yet noticeable?
          1. friend of animals
            friend of animals 2 May 2018 12: 26
            +3
            No, Ukraine had time to prepare and get loans. The situation smoothed out, the blow did not work. Yes, and time has passed, but as for me, the question of the non-recognition of the power of nationalists in Ukraine was a matter of principle.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 May 2018 07: 04
      +1
      Until there is an objective trial of the events in Odessa, no one will know the exact number of dead. But it all starts with the Donbass. In Kuev, they are ready to block any new Maidan, up to the use of the APU.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 00
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        There will be no objective trial on the events in Odessa

        to have a court, you need an investigation. but it will never be exact
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 2 May 2018 08: 04
          +3
          Hi, hello! hi There is an investigation, but it is not engaged in investigation, but in concealment and protraction. negative
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 21
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            There is an investigation, but it is not engaged in investigation, but in concealment and protraction.

            Hi Paul hi
            I don’t say about what they call the “investigation”. everything is clear with him.
            I'm talking about the real investigation.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 2 May 2018 07: 06
      +7
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      I hope that the time will soon come when each of these geeks will receive a lifetime!

      Hardly, although they are all easy to recognize.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 2 May 2018 08: 24
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Hardly, although they are all easy to recognize.


        in a blue kerchief on the neck is already dead
    4. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 May 2018 09: 29
      0
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      I hope that the time will soon come when each of these geeks will receive a lifetime!

      At all the will of the State Department, dear! The State Department wants to pass the dead, does not want not to pass the dead. All will ...
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 May 2018 06: 53
    +4
    4 years since the terrible tragedy in Odessa
    For four years, the Kiev authorities did not even lift a finger under the silent sniffling of the Council of Europe, the ECHR and others, well, "very democratic" organizations that care for human rights. I also hope that the criminals get theirs.
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 2 May 2018 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I also hope that the criminals get theirs.

      but not under this power, and in general under any near-paid power ... and of course all normal people remember and will remember about this tragedy, personally I have some kind of squeamish-nasty attitude from then on to Odessa and Odessa citizens, although I’ve wisely I understand that you don’t need everything and everyone under one comb, but this cannot be explained to the heart ...
  3. Gennadich
    Gennadich 2 May 2018 06: 56
    +6
    from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 07: 05
      +5
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

      Quote: Gennadich
      perhaps, but so far it does not feel

      good laughing good
    2. hrych
      hrych 2 May 2018 07: 14
      +14
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

      Would you like Ukrainian cities to be bombed, including Odessa? And they killed Russian people, including children not 116, but hundreds of thousands? Or do smart bombs distinguish Great Russians from Little Russians and Banderlogs? And then every family in Ukraine would have a deceased close relative and hatred of Moscow, including from the Great Russian population of Ukraine, which from a third to half, if you do not believe Ukrainization. This is a difficult question and a difficult operation. Therefore, do not go with your wisdom; strategists will figure it out. And what was sought by this crime, so that the Russian Federation would be stuck in Ukraine in bloody partisanism, hang a million people who would be hostile during the occupation of 50%, would be forced to transit gas to the EU only through East European traitors, the price would dictate The EU, in the launched GTS of Ukraine, we would have to invest. No megaprojects, the rearmament of the country would not be pulled out, no Syria, there Western companies would extract oil a day, like half the daily production of Saudi Arabia, and gas, as in Qatar, plus a pipe from Qatar, and Arabian and Middle Eastern gas would go to Europe, and cheaper than Russian, because the owners of pipes and wells would be the West. Already now the pipes, but they would have been completed onshore.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 06
        +5
        Quote: hrych
        Would you like Ukrainian cities to be bombed, including Odessa? And they killed Russian people, including children not 116, but hundreds of thousands?

        but how many on the site of the "hawks" divorced. HORROR. Give war to all the joys of striped. and they’ll sit out on the couch am
        1. the most important
          the most important 2 May 2018 08: 36
          +5
          Quote: LSA57
          but how many on the site of the "hawks" divorced. HORROR. Give war to all the joys of striped. and they’ll sit out on the couch

          And how many of these, such always have a lot of excuses to do nothing and sit quietly under the sofa when the stripes tear Russia to pieces and foment a civil war. Gas pipelines and residences with ducks are more important for such than the problems of the country and people.
      2. Gennadich
        Gennadich 2 May 2018 08: 21
        +5
        yeah yeah, all the time they just swallow and your strategists catch knives in the back, becoming more and more global outcasts ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 2 May 2018 08: 53
          +6
          Quote: Gennadich
          yeah yeah, all the time they just swallow and your strategists catch knives in the back, becoming more and more global outcasts ...

          This is your subjective opinion. They took control of the Greater Caucasus Range, took Crimea, actually took the Donbass, took the Syrian coast and all megacities, recognized the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as an inland water body, filed an application for recognition of the underwater ridges of Lomonosov and Mendeleev, i.e. not a two-hundred-mile zone from the coast, but they blocked themselves the icy waters to the North Pole. And so that no one would have any doubts, they built the most powerful northern nuclear fleet, including the nuclear cruiser Peter the Great, a decent number of submarine nuclear submarines, icebreakers and a floating nuclear power plant. We also deployed the Arctic grouping and ordered dozens of ice-breaker tankers on the newly-built Star slipway. If your mood is pesimistic in your life and everything seems bad to you, then antipsychotics help. And since you are a Navalen troll, which indicates a fresh registration and the absence of comments on the topic of VO, i.e. hardly related to the sovereign service and military engineering, but only anti-state political vysery, then expect a funnel. But actually there’s nothing to discuss with you. You are a two percent minority protest. Moreover, our minorities are not summed up, and the same members are simultaneously in different categories of medical, political, national and other communities. There is such a term - liberals, it unites all these communities in one fell swoop. And no matter how your brother puffed up, the people gave 70% for Putin, and 2% for you. In the last election, Proshka scored 10% of the protest electorate. For 6 years they sagged 5 times, for 2024 we are waiting for the proportion to fall, although lunatics and perverts in the population keep a largely unchanged percentage. We will treat with labor and drugs wassat
          1. friend of animals
            friend of animals 2 May 2018 11: 20
            +1
            I forgot about new tanks.
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 09: 20
          +3
          Quote: Gennadich
          ... your strategists are catching more and more ...

          Not ... not a tenant laughing
      3. friend of animals
        friend of animals 2 May 2018 10: 36
        +2
        It is clear that it itself is formed as a result of a multi-path. It looks like a synopsis from the broadcasts of the first channel. Tell me better how with such wisdom Ukraine was drained and received a hostile state?
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 2 May 2018 18: 10
          +1
          Well, ask Ukraine for more than 20 years ... ali, so now this abscess just burst.
        2. hrych
          hrych 2 May 2018 20: 05
          +1
          The problem began much earlier, from the time of the Union, then after the death of Stalin (Malenkov did not rule for long) from Khrushchev to the end of the USSR, including Ukrainians ruled Gorbaty (Andropov did not count for a short period). And so began the mass Ukrainization, the blocking of the Russian lands, etc. Bandera was not only not finished off, but also accepted into the party and the authorities. Therefore, the roots are there and only there. Then, during the partition of the USSR, with some fright, the fleet was divided in half, as well as the reserves of the Western group of troops, etc. They got long-range aircraft, etc. And suddenly, with some fright, Friends of the beasts attributed to Russia, the sins of the Bolsheviks, the sins of the remodelers and sins of liberoids. Russia itself nearly died, it was necessary to fight and starve for itself, when Ukraine lived freely, devouring the wealth of the USSR that it got, blackmailed and parasitized in transit, etc. Even Yanukovych acted like the last pig, tried to sit on several chairs, and that’s a little didn’t hit the cook. First ruled by Bandera Kravchuk, then Kuchma, who wrote books like "Ukraine is not Russia", then Bandera Yushchenko and Yanukovych, who brought to confusion and which was overthrown. When and with whom could Ukraine not be missed? They took the Crimea and the Donbass, and rightly so. The time will come, they will tune in and maybe they will meet Russian tanks with flowers, if there is no strangle them economically, which is where everything goes.
      4. aleks700
        aleks700 3 May 2018 05: 39
        0
        Would you like Ukrainian cities to be bombed, including Odessa? And they killed Russian people, including children not 116, but hundreds of thousands? Or do smart bombs distinguish Great Russians from Little Russians and Banderlogs? And then every family in Ukraine would have a deceased close relative and hatred of Moscow, including from the Great Russian population of Ukraine, which from a third to half, if you do not believe Ukrainization. This is a difficult question and a difficult operation. Therefore, do not go with your wisdom; strategists will figure it out. And what was sought by this crime, so that the Russian Federation would be stuck in Ukraine in bloody partisanism, hang a million people who would be hostile during the occupation of 50%, would be forced to transit gas to the EU only through East European traitors, the price would dictate The EU, in the launched GTS of Ukraine, we would have to invest. No megaprojects, the rearmament of the country would not be pulled out, no Syria, there Western companies would extract oil a day, like half the daily production of Saudi Arabia, and gas, as in Qatar, plus a pipe from Qatar, and Arabian and Middle Eastern gas would go to Europe, and cheaper than Russian, because the owners of pipes and wells would be the West. Already now the pipes, but they would have been completed onshore.
        Well, a cop. I would like to. So that the southeast is forever separated from the rest, I don’t even know what to call it. So that artillery of New Russia shelled Zhytomyr, Vinnitsa and, if possible, Lviv. That would be thousands, tens, hundreds of thousands screaming mos-kalyaku on gilyaka were killed. What would the SBU catch pravosekov. And in Syria, by the way, there is not much oil. She has no interest for anyone except Syria itself. EU in winter without gas. I would look who would dictate to whom. Where would the Saudi pipes be built? To Syria? So what is next? But rearmament was not pulled out in full. Gozman is not your brother?
        1. hrych
          hrych 3 May 2018 06: 09
          +2
          Quote: aleks700
          What would the SBU catch pravosekov.

          Firstly, the SBU created pravosekov, so that is unlikely. To kill thousands of screamers, you will have to bang a million of those who do not scream or jump, but sit frightened at home in poverty.

          Quote: aleks700
          And in Syria, by the way, there is not much oil.
          You have outdated information. And there is oil produced, but there is oil explored. In 2013, under an agreement with Assad, American and Norwegian geological prospectors conducted surveys on the Syrian shelf and discovered something. Then suddenly a civil war and the attack of the Daishaks immediately began.
          Analysts from the US Geological Survey estimated the unexplored reserves of the Jabal Nafti offshore field up to 17 billion barrels of “black gold”. Its development can “catapult” Syria into the ranks of the most advanced countries, ensuring oil production at the level of today's Kuwait. According to experts, Damascus could produce 6-7 million barrels of “black gold” per day - only half that of Saudi Arabia. ...
          Quote: aleks700
          Where would the Saudi pipes be built? To Syria? What next?

          First, they would build a terminal on the coast and gas tankers did not need to go through the Suez Canal, Somali pirates and the explosive Persian Gulf. The pipe would go through Turkey, then, as currently planned, the Turkish Stream and the TANAP Southern Gas Corridor project.
          Quote: aleks700
          But rearmament was not pulled out in full.

          Rearmament primarily relates to strategic nuclear forces and missile defense systems. SPRN to record an attack, and SNF to deliver a guaranteed response, if we do not attack the first according to the Doctrine. Voronezh SPRN stations created a continuous field, and there were no holes due to the loss of Soviet stations in Latvia, Kazakhstan, etc. The ZGRLS Container also earned. Yars also entered service, Mace, etc., in fact, the entire lineup, also completing the replacement Voivode - Sarmatian. And Iskander, Caliber and X-102, defended the homeland. To replace 3 submarines Kalmar, which are morally obsolete, stood the Boreas. By 2015, they had just deployed GLONASS in full, and literally in recent years, space Liana has been launched. By 2014, all this was not happening, and the Caliber without GLONASS and Liana was actually useless, unless on an inertial to hit the cities of the enemy with a nuclear charge. High-precision long-range weapons - a complex with global tracking, positioning and guidance. All this has been done literally in the last couple of years. We are interested in this rearmament in the first place, and combined-arms means can wait. I repeat: these are SPRN systems to see, strategic nuclear forces to act, plus satellite constellation, both part of the SPRN and the strategic nuclear forces guidance system. And it is done. Enlighten yourself.
          1. aleks700
            aleks700 4 May 2018 04: 55
            0
            Firstly, the SBU created pravosekov, so that is unlikely. To kill thousands of screamers, you will have to bang a million of those who do not scream or jump, but sit frightened at home in poverty.
            Good. Let there be a security service of New Russia.
            . And there is oil produced, but there is oil explored. In 2013, under an agreement with Assad, US and Norwegian geological prospectors conducted surveys on the Syrian shelf and discovered something.
            All Syria’s production is like one Bashneft. And we’ll see what we have found. Perhaps they will never start mining.
            First, they would build a terminal on the coast and gas tankers did not need to go through the Suez Canal, Somali pirates and the explosive Persian Gulf. The pipe would go through Turkey, then, as currently planned, the Turkish Stream and the TANAP Southern Gas Corridor project.
            Already now the pipes, but they would have been completed onshore
            . On the coast of what? Of Israel? Syria? And after all land!
            Rearmament primarily relates to strategic nuclear forces and missile defense systems. SPRN
            The rearmament concerned everything. Not enough money was enough. not everything worked out. What happened, it turned out, and thank God.
            1. hrych
              hrych 4 May 2018 07: 06
              +1
              Quote: aleks700
              Perhaps they will never start mining.

              The main thing is that the enemy did not get it and the West could not add half of Saudi production to its control of oil production. Slowly, but surely, half of world production passes into a block hostile to the United States, the question of petrodollar, i.e. in general its existence. When the dollar became such in 1976, having become detached from gold and tied to oil, the West controlled 80-90% of oil production, then Iran fell, then Venezuela, then Indonesia began to consume more than it produced, Russia could not be subjugated. Syrian shelf oil was supposed to allow them to maintain a controlling stake in petrodollar. Therefore, even the lack of prey, but they are in our hands.
              Quote: aleks700
              . On the coast of what? Of Israel? Syria? And after all land!

              A land pipe was transported from Qatar and the SA on the coast of Syria, there would be built terminals, but then the pipe would go again on the ground through Turkey to the Balkans in the EU. Israel is not considered in this scheme because of hostility to Islamists, and the Saudis and Qatari would stupidly seize the coast of Syria with their mercenaries - daishaks and Nusrons.
              A quote revealing another reason for the war besides the Syrian shelf:
              Qatar-Turkish gas pipeline - an unrealized gas pipeline project for the supply of natural gas, which was supposed to begin in the super-giant oil and gas field North / South Pars in the territorial waters of Qatar and Iran and pass through Turkey, where it could connect to the Nabucco gas pipeline (also an unrealized project ) in order to supply European and Turkish consumers. It was assumed that one branch of the pipeline was supposed to go through Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and the other through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq

              In 2009, the Bashar al-Assad government, after lengthy negotiations, rejected the idea of ​​such a gas pipeline and decided in 2012 to sign a memorandum with Tehran, which recorded intentions to organize Syrian transit of Iranian gas to Europe through Iraq, bypassing Turkey. The agreement also stipulated the possibility of building a gas liquefaction plant on the Mediterranean coast. In other words

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Катаро-турецкий_газ
              over_ (project)
              Those. the war began because of pipes, i.e. Qatari versus Iranian and why the Turks hated Assad, along with the Arabians. Russia does not need Qatari and Arabian gas in the EU, as a competitor, but it also does not need Iranian gas. Putin captured the shelf by raiding the Navy, capturing the field and putting an end to the construction of both overpasses. In 2013, the South Stream should have begun to build. The first gas deliveries were scheduled for late 2015. On April 17, 2014, the European Parliament adopted a resolution recommending the abandonment of the construction of the gas pipeline. Those. The EU has chosen the Qatari-Arabian gas pipeline to Turkey, which will merge with Nabucco and the Southern Corridor. Russia sideways. But our military strike in 2015 changed everything, at the same time they began to make the Turkish Stream in order to lead Turkey out of the war for the Qatari gas pipeline. They put the Turks on their own gas, without giving an opportunity for an alternative.
              Quote: aleks700
              The rearmament concerned everything. Not enough money was enough. not everything worked out. What happened, it turned out, and thank God.

              The rearmament does not stop, but it was the rearmament of strategic systems that allowed Russia to be invulnerable to attack, Russia can be destroyed, but it can’t be preserved. If the Soviet legacy in the form of Satan, Topolii and Sineva gave us the opportunity to burn the enemy, but the SPRN holes did not allow us to react in a timely manner and we missed a disarming strike, and the holes were huge and naturally, enemy warheads would fly into them. Also, the problem of the strike of the Kyrgyz Republic and the Stealth was not resolved. After the Container exceeded its predetermined capacities, this problem was resolved; it became impossible to disarm a massive attack from the North, South and West on the main centers and the population of our country. Well, and the entire line of missiles, allowed us in the future not only to give a guaranteed answer, but also to get a qualitative and quantitative superiority over the enemy. But tanks and planes can wait, especially since having armed Caliber with Diesel submarines, Watchdogs and small missile boats, we turned them into strategic carriers. As Tu22M3 become strategists now, with the X-102 shortened under his bomb bay and thanks to the Dagger, the MiG-31 become strategists. Also, the Sarov submarine was prepared for Status6 / Poseidon, and the atomic submarines near Moscow and Orenburg are ready, and Belgorod will be transferred to the fleet this year. This is a whole fleet - the carrier of a new strategic look. A special theme is Iskander and the Bastion with the Ball, a special theme of the ZGRLS Sunflower and Taurus, is the re-equipment of air defense, on the Torah, Armor, S-400. Work is underway on missile defense. The aircraft industry and the slipway are crammed with orders to the eyeballs. Well, of course, combat satellites. Therefore, they didn’t just rearm the strategic forces now, which the petrodollars did. Raised industry and agriculture that we have become leaders in grain. There was just a revolution, comparable to collectivization and industrialization, and the majority of the layman did not even feel it in their own skin. The couple creak on blogs. wassat Russia just flew up to Olympus, won the gas war, which is the Turkish and Nordic streams, as well as put the Trans-Korean point. But all thanks to the defense, for they became invulnerable.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 02
      +1
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

      and what side is it here? belay and why today? belay
      1. Gennadich
        Gennadich 2 May 2018 08: 20
        +4
        not today, but from that day, it’s rightly corrected ... but Putin has nothing to do with you .. he’s a saint
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        2. LSA57
          LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 47
          +1
          Quote: Gennadich
          not today, but from that day, they corrected it correctly.

          and this "corpse" became the President of Russia
          1. Gennadich
            Gennadich 2 May 2018 10: 58
            +2
            this corpse became president by choosing itself, the people have nothing to do with it ... although the Russians voted for it
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 11: 08
              +2
              Quote: Gennadich
              Russians voted for him

              Why did you, troll, right now call me a Martian?
              Not good negative
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                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 11: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Gennadich
                  who threatened Durov so much that he cried

                  I’m exactly on Durov. Although with the Amazon blocking at work, for me, yes, there were small troubles.
                  But in general - a good man will not be called Durov. Like a good deal - marriage laughing
                  1. Gennadich
                    Gennadich 2 May 2018 11: 27
                    +3
                    I agree about marriage hi Well, Durov could easily lay claim to the Russian Ilon Mask, albeit in a different field ... but Russia needs Putin and the oligarchs and not a technological power, right? lol
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 2 May 2018 08: 26
      +4
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"


      with what fright? Odessa, like all of Ukraine, a foreign state
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 45
        +2
        Quote: Silvestr
        with what fright? Odessa, like all of Ukraine, a foreign state

        cat threw kittens, it's Putin's fault
      2. Gennadich
        Gennadich 2 May 2018 10: 59
        +3
        someone else’s stranger, only you, about 4 years ago, yelled in all branches that these are Russian territories and they need to be returned — have new manuals been received? laughing
        1. Antares
          Antares 2 May 2018 21: 55
          0
          Quote: Gennadich
          someone else’s stranger, only you, about 4 years ago, yelled in all branches that these are Russian territories and they need to be returned — have new manuals been received? laughing

          and what’s convenient, in one’s own themes, only some strangers are running, in other topics - all of them are running, only TV is in the way, in the third - they aren’t at all on strangers, and we’re out of business.
          There is no unity of opinion even in the Russian Federation. We have been taught to think that someone else’s, so you can bomb Voronezh by the same logic. Not Moscow
          although this is all in the head, empire disappears, and conformism increases. This is a normal civilizational process.
    5. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 2 May 2018 08: 26
      +9
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

      Hear you, political scientist. 4 of the year passed, and Putin was re-elected for another 6 years, with the support of 76% of voters. I personally voted for him, as a former citizen of Ukraine. This is the first.
      Second, have you been to that Ukraine for more than a month and preferably after zero? And I lived there for 25 years, my father was transferred there from the GDR. So dear, in May 2014, I saw the peak of such a phenomenon live, like: "Russian-speaking Bandera", "Russian-speaking maydanutye", etc. Only in my resort Russian-speaking Berdyansk, with a population of thousands of 100, it was almost 40-45% maydanutyh. Each 5 machine with a Ukrainian flag. Most of my classmates, classmates, and colleagues at 1985 + ... were maydanutye. I lost mentally relatives with Russian names and people from the RSFSR, they all became "Ukrainians".
      Therefore, Putin is twice right that he did not stick himself to the Greater South-East of Ukraine. I wrote about 40 publications on this site, most of them in 2014, so that Putin would not even think to send troops there. Do you want a guy from Ryazan to shoot a guy from Ryazan in the back, who in 1991 stayed in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR and smoothly assimilated over 20 years? Your choice, go there yourself or your son. I can not tolerate people. not knowing the situation in Ukraine and not owning the subject. Anyone who is interested in the problem, click on my profile, and read my articles.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        subject matter

        You feed the troll. With hands, practically.
        They must be crushed, not fed wink
        1. Gennadich
          Gennadich 2 May 2018 11: 00
          +2
          don't feed the troll Lakhti employee said 2-epic fail laughing
        2. hrych
          hrych 2 May 2018 20: 11
          +2
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          You feed the troll. With hands, practically.

          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 2 May 2018 20: 12
            +1
            You found a pretty one laughing
      2. Gennadich
        Gennadich 2 May 2018 11: 01
        +1
        although you’re right, Russia’s oppression and is not falling apart because Putin is rotting because the Russians .. and Putin is just the one whom the Russians deserve .. hi
      3. Victorio
        Victorio 2 May 2018 12: 32
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Therefore, Putin is right twice that he did not go to the Big South-East of Ukraine

        ====
        just a lot of the present in Ukraine indicates the mistakes of the past

        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Only in my resort Russian-speaking Berdyansk, with a population of 100 thousand, there were almost 40-45% of the Maidan.

        ------
        this is just an example in Berdyansk, and the percentage figure is also approximate, but how many other cities and even regions where the situation was different. and the second, from love to hate, is one step. didn’t love, read didn’t help, they will hate others too
    6. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 2 May 2018 09: 37
      +1
      Quote: Gennadich
      from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

      Well, like Lenin, “Livelier than all the living” with 76,69% of the vote.
      1. Gennadich
        Gennadich 2 May 2018 11: 02
        +2
        Milosevic also had overwhelming support and Yanukovych with their circus under the guise of "election"
        1. Antares
          Antares 2 May 2018 21: 57
          0
          standard - Nicolae Ceausescu before execution
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 2 May 2018 22: 06
            0
            Quote: Antares
            standard - Nicolae Ceausescu before execution

            Not. After the execution of Ceausescu, they read on his lips: "Leave me alone, Elena!"
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 May 2018 06: 59
    +4
    The "State Duma" could give the "assessment" a tougher legal meaning without a limitation period.
  5. Mihail55
    Mihail55 2 May 2018 07: 00
    +3
    Eternal memory to the dead! I hope that we will survive that in Ukraine this day will be remembered as a mournful date. And EVERYONE will get what they deserve, not from an earthly court ... so from HEAVEN!
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 May 2018 07: 06
    +3
    Anyone who does something against Russia - the global "community" will forgive ANY crime! Just by definition ... That Russia is always and to blame for everything a priori. It’s a pity, of course, but alas ... Until we get STRONGER, they will put pressure on me ... I don’t exclude the "visa blockade" when they begin to "clamp" trips to the EU (they have already tightened the screws in the States) ...
    So what about the Odessa crime?
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    1. Phil77
      Phil77 2 May 2018 07: 31
      +4
      There will definitely not be a trial with this junta. And in the future, who knows?
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 2 May 2018 08: 49
        +1
        Quote: Phil77
        .And in the future, who knows

        do you think this education has a future? I strongly doubt
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 2 May 2018 10: 25
          +3
          With this junta, definitely not. I agree.
  9. bald
    bald 2 May 2018 07: 30
    +1
    We all remember and will not forget. Forgive the “balalaika”. Eternal memory to the fallen.
  10. Bare
    Bare 2 May 2018 07: 45
    +3
    In 2015 I was at this building. A terrible energy comes straight from him.
    A change of power, and this is inevitable, will lead to the cleansing of this scum. The current ones will not be able to hide from the law, even with their dough.

    am
    1. 100500
      100500 2 May 2018 07: 55
      +4
      Quote: Bere
      Change of power, and this is inevitable,


      From a change in terms, the sum does not change. It would be better if that country disappears from the geographic map of the world, forever.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 2 May 2018 08: 01
      +7
      They will be able to. As soon as they can. Remember the African, Latin American, Asian dictators. All of them calmly lived their lives in the enlightened and civilized west.
      1. Dormidont
        Dormidont 2 May 2018 08: 57
        +2
        And the main Spanish fascist General Franco, with whom all progressive mankind fought back in the thirties, calmly spoiled the air right up to the eighties and died a inhuman respected by all mankind
  11. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 May 2018 08: 20
    +1
    Eternal memory to those who died in this tragedy ... Could it be that Gromova wrote another opus? In her manner, to place emphasis at her discretion and define them as indestructible axioms. Personally, I made conclusions for myself after watching the documentary "2 of May. Without Myths." There, the inhabitants of Odessa tell how and where it all began and how it ended. And to re-post fakes four years ago ... Let's leave it to amateurs ...
  12. Dormidont
    Dormidont 2 May 2018 08: 54
    +1
    "Before" was Odessa, "after" - Kotsyubeyevsk
  13. rotor
    rotor 2 May 2018 09: 25
    +1
    It is strange that Parubiy, who was behind the shooting on the Maidan and the tragedy in Odessa, still walks on this land.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 2 May 2018 10: 29
      +3
      And why shouldn’t he go? Poroshenko. Yatsenyuk, etc. walk and he walks while.
  14. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 2 May 2018 09: 28
    0
    That's all we say banderlog, ukrofashisty, etc. But Russians from birth amid this abomination are more than enough. How many military men of the USSR swore an oath to a yellow-black rag ?. Or children of retirees of Russian origin? Moreover, there are much more frostbite among them than among ethnic Ukrainians. The same "Mikola", for example, the pseudo-crest Semenchenko! I heard such a statement that the Russian people betrayed their Faith and what is happening now is God's punishment! And the facts are stubborn and incorruptible !!! Or is it just my speculation? Who can answer
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 2 May 2018 09: 33
      0
      According to your theory, the wrong one is punished. God is not mistaken.
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 2 May 2018 09: 44
        0
        Those who create against God's purpose have sold their souls to black power, but the innocent suffer? Everything is relative. Accepting the surrounding reality in a perverted form is already a sin
        1. hhhhhhh
          hhhhhhh 2 May 2018 10: 14
          +1
          How to distinguish between good and evil?
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 2 May 2018 11: 01
            +1
            Yes easily! What did you say Evgeniy667b - good. The rest is all evil ...
            1. hhhhhhh
              hhhhhhh 2 May 2018 11: 47
              +2
              Then yes)))
  15. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 2 May 2018 09: 32
    +1
    After the liberation of Ukraine, as a punishment to football fans, ban football in Ukraine forever.
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  17. PValery53
    PValery53 2 May 2018 10: 29
    +2
    Parubiy and his henchmen will end their existence in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. It should be.
  18. sasha_blusnuk
    sasha_blusnuk 2 May 2018 10: 58
    0
    I will add pictures of radicals who "locked the doors and beat those who jumped off")))) posted links to the xs source as there with moderation
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 2 May 2018 11: 03
      +1
      Throw my friend! Here in VO for four years they have known the whole "ins and outs of the truth" and they have appointed the guilty. And your photos will either be banned, or they will comment that it’s the radicals who drag the assault tower to the walls of the building ....
  19. Alsur
    Alsur 2 May 2018 11: 18
    0
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Quote: Gennadich
    from that day on, Putin as a politician began to become a "corpse"

    Hear you, political scientist. 4 of the year passed, and Putin was re-elected for another 6 years, with the support of 76% of voters. I personally voted for him, as a former citizen of Ukraine. This is the first.
    Second, have you been to that Ukraine for more than a month and preferably after zero? And I lived there for 25 years, my father was transferred there from the GDR. So dear, in May 2014, I saw the peak of such a phenomenon live, like: "Russian-speaking Bandera", "Russian-speaking maydanutye", etc. Only in my resort Russian-speaking Berdyansk, with a population of thousands of 100, it was almost 40-45% maydanutyh. Each 5 machine with a Ukrainian flag. Most of my classmates, classmates, and colleagues at 1985 + ... were maydanutye. I lost mentally relatives with Russian names and people from the RSFSR, they all became "Ukrainians".
    Therefore, Putin is twice right that he did not stick himself to the Greater South-East of Ukraine. I wrote about 40 publications on this site, most of them in 2014, so that Putin would not even think to send troops there. Do you want a guy from Ryazan to shoot a guy from Ryazan in the back, who in 1991 stayed in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR and smoothly assimilated over 20 years? Your choice, go there yourself or your son. I can not tolerate people. not knowing the situation in Ukraine and not owning the subject. Anyone who is interested in the problem, click on my profile, and read my articles.


    Quote: Evgeniy667b
    That's all we say banderlog, ukrofashisty, etc. But Russians from birth amid this abomination are more than enough. How many military men of the USSR swore an oath to a yellow-black rag ?. Or children of retirees of Russian origin? Moreover, there are much more frostbite among them than among ethnic Ukrainians. The same "Mikola", for example, the pseudo-crest Semenchenko! I heard such a statement that the Russian people betrayed their Faith and what is happening now is God's punishment! And the facts are stubborn and incorruptible !!! Or is it just my speculation? Who can answer


    This question is why many ethnic Russians, some of whom captured the USSR, where internationalism was a state ideology, studied the history of Russia | Russia in schools, took the side of the new radical power, and many in the forefront. In the Security Service of Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in the flesh, up to the middle and high command staff, the Russians lead sabotage against the LDP / Russia. I still do not understand this, can anyone try to explain this.
  20. Alsur
    Alsur 2 May 2018 11: 43
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    Quote: sasha_blusnuk
    I will add pictures of radicals who "locked the doors and beat those who jumped off")))) posted links to the xs source as there with moderation

    It remains to be understood how 48 people who died, according to the official version, committed suicide. The woman in the photo also strangled herself. Or is it pro-Russian Odessa villains? They stood in a tent camp for more than one day, they didn’t kill anyone, and they were not driven by local “ultras” who accidentally turned out to be at the trade unions’s house, who idolize Odessa residents, they weren’t local frostbite villains who hate their hometown and its inhabitants, so these driven villains became suddenly kill it is not clear why, kill each other. And the peace-loving "ultras" tried to save these frostbitten and even fired pistols to indicate where to go, lost in the smoke.
    Do you sincerely believe that?
  21. Victorio
    Victorio 2 May 2018 12: 20
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    there is growing up and growing a generation for whom these events are almost a holiday
  22. Alsur
    Alsur 2 May 2018 12: 27
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    Quote: Victorio
    there is growing up and growing a generation for whom these events are almost a holiday

    With these, then everything is explainable. Such ideas fit well with young people; we also have such ideas with Navalny. But those who have grown or at least found a normal society, that’s what drives them. For example, to shoot policemen in Mariupol.
  23. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 May 2018 12: 50
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    Eternal Memory of the Fallen! soldier
    Inhuman criminals - to be punished without expiration of limitation periods. angry
  24. Normal ok
    Normal ok 2 May 2018 16: 33
    +1
    Beslan, - Russian security officials "freed" 314 people from life. Nord-Ost, Russian special services "freed" 130 people from life. Odessa - 42 people died. Score: 12-0 in favor of Russia.
  25. dolfi1
    dolfi1 2 May 2018 19: 04
    -1
    A nightmare, I watched it all online, just horror. :-(
  26. Antares
    Antares 2 May 2018 22: 21
    +2
    today in my city mourning. Already 4 years.
    The tragedy that gave everyone except Odessa citizens what they needed
    Nationalist idols and goals (killed in Greek) for the country and against separatism
    Russians- "bloody Bandera and Odessa Khatyn"
    ORDILO- powerful support as an information fuse.
    Everyone got everything they needed. Some Odessa citizens buried more than 40 corpses of their citizens (all Ukrainians except one native of the Russian Federation)
    And so far, those that others (that nationalists that Russians) will compose what they want and experience terrible emotions for their "opponents." Still, each side here blames the other for “righteous anger”
    My condolences are to my fellow citizens, whose relatives and friends died in these "partner" geopolitical games for whom their lives were worthless. The main effect.
    One of the closest was the description of the country of yua (so to this opposition, there is no love of power)
    https://strana.ua/articles/analysis/67438-tragedi
    ya-2-maya-v-voprosah-i-otvetah.html
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 2 May 2018 23: 11
      +1
      I agree. My children could have been there.
  27. aleks700
    aleks700 3 May 2018 05: 24
    +1
    I watched a report from Odessa. Yesterday, the Nazis marched. Youth. And several dozen women and older men from the anti-Maidan. Odessa is almost lost.
  28. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 4 May 2018 08: 32
    +1
    Tatyana,
    I myself distributed these materials at one time, hoping with other citizens of Ukraine to stop Maidan madness and the collapse of the country - it did not help ...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 4 May 2018 16: 20
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      Phoenix_L'vov (Dmitriy)
      hoping with other citizens of Ukraine to stop Maidan madness and the collapse of the country, it did not help ...

      Well, psychologically, who of the maydanut "European integrators" admits that he himself or their relative uses drugs? If at the same time, moreover, does the drug addict rob other people and pull someone else's looted property into his house? No one!
      This is called the criminal complicity of the "European integrator" relatives of the addicted drug addict in the crime he committed.
      The opposite usually happens only when the addicted drug addict takes everything from the house and ruins his relatives. And in order for this to reach everyone, it takes time. And the time in this case is, alas, working faster for the Pentagon.