For this and fought? Leader of protests Pashinyan - the only candidate for the post of prime minister

In Armenia, on Monday in 18: 00 (17: 00 in Moscow), the nomination of candidates for the post of prime minister of the republic was completed. The leader of the protest actions Nikol Pashinyan became the only candidate for the post, spokesman for the republic’s parliament Arsen Bababyan said.

1 votes are needed to elect a prime minister in parliament, which is scheduled for May 53.

Pashinyan’s nomination was put forward by the Yelk faction, which holds nine votes in the legislature. The oppositionist needs an 53 vote from 105 to be elected. The opposition Tsarukyan faction (31 vote) and the Dashnaktsutyun faction (seven votes) said they would vote for Pashinyan. To elect Pashinyan, he needs six more votes from the faction of the ruling party.

The faction of the ruling Republican Party has an absolute majority of votes - 58 deputies. The party, the leader of which is former Prime Minister Serzh Sargsyan, said that they would not nominate the new head of the government, but they have not yet reported on the voting position.

Actions against the election of ex-President Serzh Sargsyan as Armenian Prime Minister began on April 13. The opposition accuses Sargsyan, who was twice elected to the presidency, of poor management and the deterioration of the economic situation in the country; On April 17, the opposition announced the start of a velvet revolution. Despite the protests, on the same day, the Armenian parliament elected Sargsyan head of the Cabinet. Less than a week later, on April 23, Sargsyan resigned amid ongoing protests. Earlier, amendments to the Constitution of Armenia came into force, according to which the prime minister will have the broadest powers.

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[Safevi]

Who would doubt that

[Hunter 2]

Well now, let’s take a look at the great successes of Armenia in all spheres of life management!

[Logall]

Yes, if only everything was good in their country! So that for the good of the country, and not obscure curators ... If only they lived with their own, Armenian head. And do not care who is in power, it's their business ...

[jjj]

It seems that everything was planned in advance for this and changed the presidential form of government to parliamentary. They are now talking about peaceful protest. Blaze like in Karabakh, only already among themselves

[mamertinets]

Quote: jjj

It seems that everything was planned in advance for this and changed the presidential form of government to parliamentary. They are now talking about peaceful protest. Blaze like in Karabakh, only already among themselves

You are very insightful - it’s Serzh Sargsyan who planned the “great” combination so that he could move from the presidential chair to the prime minister and not lose his powers. This was all he did on his own head.

[Shurik70]

It is unlikely that there will be any changes in Armenia. Those who ruled before will rule in the future, but the fact that he changed the scenery on his chair is a trifle. So those who stick to the state feeder vote for stability!

[Serg65]

Quote: mamertinets

This is all he built on his head.

Congratulations to you Karen! Fun and exciting times await you! Yes, and I suspect that in a year, you will recall Sarkisyan with nastalgia, but this will already be in the past! Good luck to you

[Gennadich]

I congratulate you on success ... you are real people ... it’s a pity we won’t succeed ... but don’t pay any attention to the Lakhtinsky ones .. their work is sold for a penny

[Lelek]

Quote: jjj

It seems that everything was planned in advance for this and changed the presidential form of government to parliamentary. They are now talking about peaceful protest. Blaze like in Karabakh, only already among themselves

Correctly. You are not far from the truth, the manifestations of which are already observed today:

[210ox]

Alexander The main thing is that they did not start to weird .. And there are our people ..

Quote: Logall

Yes, if only everything was good in their country! So that for the good of the country, and not obscure curators ... If only they lived with their own, Armenian head. And do not care who is in power, it's their business ...

[Logall]

Quote: 210ox

our people are there.

Given the total living of Armenians in the Caucasus and the Kuban - yes - ours ... Almost relatives!
There is a hope that this "kin" was organized, in order to be even more friendly with the Russian girl, to strengthen the business ...

[Kent0001]

Well, if so .. but not vice versa.

[Prosha]

What I like about the Russians, we are incorrigible optimists!) We have already been squeezed from all sides, and we are all reassuring ourselves, these guys want to play football, so what, what with the machine guns and tanks drove up, they have it so much for football and fans in armored personnel carriers))

[Logall]

Quote: Prosha

What I like about Russians, we are incorrigible optimists!)

I always stay true to myself! I do not intend to change the rake, only a place from the deployment ...

[Alena Frolovna]

So let's look at the "wonderful Armenian economic breakthrough."

Factories will not grow in Armenia from the change of government, investments will not come, scientific miracles will not happen, the infrastructure will not magically change, and a million tons of gold will not fly into the budget.

Only work. Only labor. And this is not a quick matter.

Otherwise, tragedy could happen. All the prerequisites for this already exist.

[Prosha]

If the money is driven, it will be like in Poland, maybe, but if not, then most likely like in Georgia at the time of Gamsakhurdia, he was also a tough manager, it’s not the command of the country to yell at the square.

[mgero]

Alena vot v etom i vi nepravi, investitci pridut tolko armjanskaya diaspora nemogla vo vremja bonditskogo stroja priti, kto investirovol Sam Serj i Ego radnya kidali mnogix. Esli ne znaete klichka Brata Serja Sargisyana "50%". Esli Respublikaskoj parti ne trogali esli daje ne portini 50% zabirali.

[masterovoy]

All repeat as in Ukraine. Well, judge for yourself who needs Armenia and its people, where and why to invest any funds? The beautiful, hardworking Armenian people will be turned into slaves and outcasts. The Armenians are intelligent smart people, where are your "brains"?

[Victorio]

Quote: Logall

If only they lived with their Armenian head. And do not care who is in power, it's their business ...

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it’s hard for the philologist to manage the government, except that the American embassy will help with economic reforms

[vovanpain]

The only candidate for the post was the leader of the protest rallies Nikol Pashinyan,

Who would doubt that Well hello Kolya Rabbit number 2.

[Graduation]

It is difficult to say how they have it, but our AHL at the last meeting put it, saying that it wouldn’t work out like in Ukraine and now in Armenia, and said: "I spoke with the President of Armenia, and he answered me, well, Alexander Grigoryevich missed, missed! "
Another Ukraine, but "softer" ???

[Pirogov]

Quote: Graduation

Another Ukraine, but "softer" ???

Not yet evening . Although the threat from Azerbaijan may not allow to do a lot of stupid things. But I think the woman’s yaga from overseas will be against the very peaceful end of this (popular revolution).

[Graduation]

Quote: Pirogov

Quote: Graduation

Another Ukraine, but "softer" ???

Not yet evening . Although the threat from Azerbaijan may not allow to do a lot of stupid things. But I think the woman’s yaga from overseas will be against the very peaceful end of this (popular revolution).

It seems to me that way too, but suddenly Baba Yaga will regret the money, the task will be completed ...

[Pirogov]

Quote: Graduation

It seems to me that way too, but suddenly Baba Yaga will regret the money, the task will be completed.

We’ll see, I think everything will depend on the ultimate goal pursued by the United States.

[Lelek]

Quote: Pirogov

We’ll see, I think everything will depend on the ultimate goal pursued by the United States.

This secret open door is Operation Anaconda, and it is successful for the US and NATO. Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan are already here ....

[helmi8]

Quote: Pirogov

Although the threat from Azerbaijan may not allow to do a lot of stupid things.

There is also Iran and Turkey close by ... And the Armenians suffered from the Turks at one time ...

[Prosha]

Although the threat from Azerbaijan may not allow to do a lot of stupid things.

Azerbaijan just can play a bad service if the Turks get connected, when the loot from Turechchin flows onto the head of Armenia, they immediately forget both genocide and all kinds of strife. Then Azerbaijan can be redirected to where they need to.

[sabakina]

Quote: Graduation

and said: "I talked with the President of Armenia, and he replied, well, Alexander Grigoryevich missed, missed!"

It would be better to say: "Well, I could not, I could not ..." ...

[Kent0001]

Cool, they will choose a screamer and heal ... our base will be thrown out, and the antenna will be destroyed. Only then with them you need very tough and no support. Let their Americans contain. And if Russia ceases to support them, they will be devoured by the Iser, they won’t choke .... oh, Armenians, all the people without brains ... like Dzhigarkhanyan, no offense, but since it is natural

[Normal ok]

Quote: Hunter 2

Well now, let’s take a look at the great successes of Armenia in all spheres of life management!

And before that they had some success?

[papas-57]

Another one wanted to stake a throne for himself. The nominee of the "people" of Japan is the mother.

[Miflecet]

Democracy on the march!

[dSK]

"Dem нKratisers celebrate victory.

[sabakina]

Quote: Mifletset

Democracy on the march!

What? The democratizer waves you from your profile picture ...

[dSK]

[quote = mamertinets (karen)] [quote]
Military Review ● Analytics. "Karabakh: mine laid under the "Syrian trio." Boris Dzherelievsky. April 6, 2018
"US Army Command Experts in Europe (USAREUR) held a seminar in Baku on the topic "The process of making a military decision during peacekeeping operations." ... the seminar, which ended on April 5, was held for the military personnel of Azerbaijan, for whom "peacekeeping" is perceived quite peculiarly - as capture of Karabakh.
... the Georgian military also understood this term, which, in addition to the Americans, was taught to "peacekeeping" by Israeli experts in this matter. Recall that the armed forces of Georgia were preparing to attack South Ossetia and the Russian peacekeeping contingent around 1000 Israeli military advisers. ... the development of the “Clean Field” operation, which involved the seizure of South Ossetia, ethnic cleansing and squeezing non-Georgian populations into Russia, was carried out under the leadership of Galya Hirsch and other Israeli military experts.
By the way, today, Israeli specialists actively cooperate with Baku, arming and training the Azerbaijani armed forces."
You can say goodbye to Karabakh, Russia will not be it for you “save” at the cost of the lives of their fighters, since you didn’t disperse a handful of “gorlopans” from Yerevan Square.

[dSK]

In Bulgaria, the same story - the parliament "dragged" the country into NATO, and the Bulgarians in VO "shrug their hands - we remember the liberation from the Turks and for friendship with Russia. All the" parts "of the former Yugoslavia (destroyed by NATO) are very "democratic" dragged into this "company" corrupt deputies (Serbia still holds). The same story in Moldova - the president is a nominal figure, but the December elections can change everything. EU "free cheese" promises, and NATO is not a charitable foundation - the “overseer” with a whip.

[Dimontius]

Citizens of Armenia on the site, tell me, do you mind? And you don’t even know what to think about the current situation.

[Mardvahe]

And why should be against it.

[Dimontius]

Well, I’ll say it on my own .. confused by his ostentatious untidiness (unshaven, one outfit) ... a clear desire to be for one with a protest. The people clearly want change, but is there any confidence in it? Who is he? The rating is lower than the baseboard, before that, he’s always shaved and in a suit .. The people put it forward, but the people aren’t all over Armenia, they didn’t ask all of Armenia .. Is it a catch? explain plz. And one more moment, but if he were from the people then it doesn’t matter who he is and where ... he would be a truly popular nominee, but he is in the opposition ... wasn’t he just fussing? Will it not turn out that the reins of government will be transferred as for example, fie-fie from EP to Yabloko? (not a fan of EP) Yavlinsky, probably, a superman costume would have put on

[XXXIII]

Quote: Dimontius

Well, I’ll say it on my own .. confused by his ostentatious untidiness (unshaven, one outfit) ... a clear desire to be for one with a protest. The people clearly want change, but is there any confidence in it? Who is he? The rating is lower than the baseboard, before that, he’s always shaved and in a suit .. The people put it forward, but the people aren’t all over Armenia, they didn’t ask all of Armenia .. Is it a catch? explain plz And one more moment, but if he were from the people then it doesn’t matter who he is and where ... it’s a truly national nominee, but he’s in the opposition ... didn’t it just slip up. Will it not turn out that the reins of government will be transferred as for example, fie-fie from EP to Yabloko? (not a fan of EP)

They just still believe that they can choose something, he just bought this place from the Sargsyan, and played a performance for the goyim. In general, as always, justice wins money, and most importantly, not only does it happen to them ......

[jjj]

Quote: XXXIII

he just bought this place from sargsyan

I believe that the money was not paid by a bearded man

[XXXIII]

Quote: jjj

I believe that the money was not paid by a bearded man

I don’t even know who they have in their Forbes list, but someone pays for the rotation, although it may be a charity option due to lack of money ...

[mamertinets]

Quote: XXXIII

Quote: jjj

I believe that the money was not paid by a bearded man

I don’t even know who they have in their Forbes list, but someone pays for the rotation, although it may be a charity option due to lack of money ...

Nonsense full.

[72jora72]

Nonsense full.

Come on

[Mardvahe]

Who are you talking about?

[Mardvahe]

Believe that almost all of Armenia is now for him.

[XXXIII]

Quote: MardVahe

Believe that almost all of Armenia is now for him.

I don’t believe it, this can’t be, I’m sure that there are those who want to poop for these protests, they earn money at this time ....

[Mardvahe]

They are, that is, but what Nikol did, it’s as if with a knife to go to the bear. Theoretically possible, but unrealistic. Therefore, the people supported him. They are just tired of the same faces of both the authorities and the "opposition" with their eternal intrigues and agreement. Nicole most likely had the support of some of the authorities and big capital, perhaps even Russian. But it is not yet known who they are, only speculation.

[XXXIII]

Quote: MardVahe

They are just tired of the same faces of both the authorities and the "opposition" with their eternal intrigues and agreement.

An accurate definition of the Armenian phenomenon, the people are tired just ....

[Cat]

Just tired of the same faces of both the authorities and the "opposition" with their eternal intrigues and agreement

Outside Ukraine, too, it’s kind of tired ... Only instead of just rye it got out

[bald]

So he doesn’t pass through the voices? Or velvet just a name?

[Mardvahe]

Karen Karapetyan was an alternative to Nikol, but he was also a stranger to RPA. Plus, he made a couple of blunders. Therefore, part of the Republicans supported Pashinyan.

[dSK]

Quote: MardVahe

Therefore, part of the Republicans supported Pashinyan.

Pashinyan needs more to be elected six votes from the faction of the ruling party.

Real pennies - 6 lemons bucks and "the thing is the hat."

[bald]

Most likely it will be so, I don’t want to strain ordinary people, otherwise I would have spoken out.

[Mardvahe]

Even this is not necessary.

[Lunt]

With 8% in the election? Do not make me laugh.

[the finish]

In thought. Let's wait and see.

[sabakina]

All the same, I wonder what will happen at the finish? ....

[dSK]

More Armenians live abroad than in Armenia, there will be even more, the Maidan people will be the first to run, they have made good money on the Maidan, they know languages.

[sabakina]

Regarding Armenians abroad ...

[72jora72]

Citizens of Armenia on the site, tell me, do you mind? And you don’t even know what to think about the current situation.

Naturally, it’s not against, because they hope to suck us with redoubled energy.

[Xnumx vis]

Mykola, Pashinenko!

[turbris]

This is Armenian democracy, originally, let's see what happens next.

[Mardvahe]

First, early elections, and then it will be seen.

[svp67]

Quote: MardVahe

First, early elections, and then it will be seen.

And will it be "later"?

[XXXIII]

Quote: svp67

Quote: MardVahe

First, early elections, and then it will be seen.

And will it be "later"?

Then it will be necessary to wait three years ....

[svp67]

Quote: XXXIII

Then it will be necessary to wait three years ....

Do you think the "new government" will have time to "eat" during this period?

[Bad_santa]

Whether another question will succeed or not already. But I would not want to be at our expense. Therefore, if we screwed up in Armenia, we will have to withdraw our military base from there and block all funding channels. This suitcase without a handle is already not worth pulling as Ukraine. Then from the side you can observe how these independent and proud people will lose Nagorno-Karabakh, and then the whole of Armenia. They believe that all their independence is built on their armed forces, and we are invaders there. need to give them plenty to jump on a rake

[svp67]

Quote: Bad_Santa

ado give them plenty to jump on a rake

And then they can be liberated heroically ... how much can you pay for the mistakes of politicians and diplomats with the blood of soldiers. Our soldiers.

[Bad_santa]

We chose these politicians ourselves

[Mardvahe]

You finally get comfortable, you mess up. In our direction of violence, make mistakes 10 years ago. Now Russia has the opportunity to rectify the situation. Maybe the last one.

[Bad_santa]

Armenia is like a queen. Why did you decide that it is beneficial for us to have an enclave surrounded on all sides? We only lose the bridgehead, and you risk your country. Was there only one genocide for you? You are going to the second now. I have nothing against the protests, just like in Ukraine, you just some dark personalities decided to earn extra money

[Mardvahe]

Oh yes, Russia is holding a base not without interest, out of kindness.

[saigon]

And why should we correct your mistakes, why the hell?
You yourself have cooked it yourself and eat it.
For Marabakh, only Mameeds will be shamefully squeezed

[mamertinets]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Whether another question will succeed or not already. But I would not want to be at our expense. Therefore, if we screwed up in Armenia, we will have to withdraw our military base from there and block all funding channels. This suitcase without a handle is already not worth pulling as Ukraine. Then from the side you can observe how these independent and proud people will lose Nagorno-Karabakh, and then the whole of Armenia. They believe that all their independence is built on their armed forces, and we are invaders there. need to give them plenty to jump on a rake

I have a business proposal for the Russians - hold a referendum in your country about the fate of the Russian base with us, if the Russian people approve the issue of withdrawing the bases - withdraw. But each time I raise this topic in your comments I consider it an element of overt blackmail.

[sabakina]

Quote: mamertinets

I have a business proposal for the Russians - hold a referendum in your country on the fate of the Russian base here, if the Russian people approve the issue of withdrawing the bases - withdraw.

Are you really bad? A cook and a cleaner will decide whether we need a military base in Armenia or not? For this, we have a president and a Moscow region!

[mamertinets]

Quote: sabakina

Quote: mamertinets

I have a business proposal for the Russians - hold a referendum in your country on the fate of the Russian base here, if the Russian people approve the issue of withdrawing the bases - withdraw.

Are you really bad? A cook and a cleaner will decide whether we need a military base in Armenia or not? For this, we have a president and a Moscow region!

Then your president decides. And, in truth, you Russians are embarrassed by the topic of withdrawing or not withdrawing your military bases. Of course, you are like small children. From the fact that, for example, Azerbaijan or Turkey destroys my country, it won’t be any better. With a mentality like that of the Russian forum users, you can make even new enemies lightly. You discuss the topic as if you are gods and Armenians are powerless slaves. I did not want to raise this topic, but it was already boiling - in the summer of 1992 our squad He fought in the Martakert region of Nagorno-Karabakh against the Russian airborne division thrown at us. He was commanded by Shamalov, who later became the commander of the Russian Airborne Forces. I personally fought against Russian paratroopers - poorly armed volunteers at first it was hard to fight against the regular army with heavy armored vehicles, with attack aircraft and by helicopters. But then equipment began to arrive from Armenia, your paratroopers began to suffer heavy losses and gradually retreated to Russia. I always wrote in my previous comments that Armenians should rely on their own strength that one day the owner of the base in Gyumri will begin to blackmail the whole country with the withdrawal or non-withdrawal of his base.

[freddyk]

All this is a consequence of the collapse of the Union, and the President of Russia (current) has nothing to do with it. And the paratroopers with whom you fought were not Russian, but also Soviet. I myself served in 90-92 years, and in the company (Airborne Forces), both Ukrainians, and Kazakhs and Armenians, including the democrats, served before our demobilization.

[Pissarro]

Another daughter of an officer writes)
If the personnel division of the Airborne Forces, reinforced by armored vehicles and attack aircraft, fought against your militia, TV wouldn’t write anything here. You fought against a similar rabble from Azerbaijan, this explains your successes.
Only a very stupid person can write about the support of an isolated, small, impoverished country in a ring of strong enemies. By the way, Serge understood this. But whether the maydauns understand

[Bad_santa]

Yes, this is the ordinary daughter of an officer. His comments are already visible. With a machine gun against BMD, he went on the attack. Well, I wouldn’t tell tales.

[Prosha]

I have a business proposal for Russians - hold a referendum in your country on the fate of the Russian base

If the people in Russia had complete information about the base and why it is there, then no one would say a word against it, believe me. In recent years, too many have condemned the USSR and its policies, forgetting that they owe a good life to that country, and could not and have lost nothing after the era of the USSR, that's why they raise this topic here because they are used to the fact that all your democratic changes, except deterioration does not bring anything, this is not my opinion, but what has been happening lately. God grant that in this particular case I was wrong and everything in you in Armenia did not work out as usual ... Good luck!

[Brut]

Quote: Bad_Santa

They believe that all their independence is built on their sun, and we are invaders there.

It is not true. The lie is complete.

[XXXIII]

Quote: svp67

Do you think the "new government" will have time to "eat" during this period?

Yes, there is nothing much to share, but if they share power, then there is something to share ....

[svp67]

Quote: XXXIII

Yes, there is nothing special there, but since they share power, there is something to share ...

We recall the Russian Empire in 1917 and present Ukraine, since "there is nothing", then we begin to "rob the loot" ... all that’s business

[Mardvahe]

Why three?

[XXXIII]

Quote: MardVahe

Why three?

They are waiting for the promised three years ....

[Mardvahe]

But five is possible.

[sabakina]

Quote: MardVahe

Why three?

Patamushta gladiolus.

[Mardvahe]

"Then" will always be. But what is another question.

[XXXIII]

Quote: MardVahe

"Then" will always be. But what is another question.

Believing in the best is good, but do not forget that the best for the country is the whole country, not just one politician ....

[Mardvahe]

Do you think Pashinyan alone outplayed such an experienced politician as Serzh Sargsyan.

[Bad_santa]

Name at least one country where, after street protests, they began to live better

[mamertinets]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Name at least one country where, after street protests, they began to live better

What’s it for you - will the Armenians live better or worse? 400000 people left the country under the “talented” rule of Sargsyan. Something I didn’t hear the indignant voices of the forum users.

[Bad_santa]

And after the genocide, how much? You are not choosing a bright future now. And you choose between genocide (according to the Yugoslav scenario) or the existence of Armenia. Remember your story about how you ended up in the RI

[mamertinets]

Quote: Bad_Santa

And after the genocide, how much? You are not choosing a bright future now. And you choose between genocide (according to the Yugoslav scenario) or the existence of Armenia. Remember your story about how you ended up in the RI

The genocide occurred when the Armenians supported and took the side of Russia in its struggle against the Ottoman Empire. After reading the comments of the Russians, I have a logical question - and maybe in vain the Armenians still side with the Russians? Why a friend, if he constantly wants to dictate to you even the size of the furniture you choose. You don’t like Pashinyan - I’m sad for you - in his place a man could appear completely anti-Russian, drop a few slogans and voila - your base is with us, and in her place ?? ?? So, you, Russians should blow dust away from Pashinyan - he will mainly focus on domestic politics. As I wrote yesterday - WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER PRIME FOR YOU! We need to work with this.

[dauria]

As I wrote yesterday - WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER PREMIER FOR YOU! We must work with this.

Will it reach you or not? Not you choose, but you are appointed. What do you want for yourself there, do not care about either the Americans or the Russians. The only question is who you go under. Roughly, but this is the fate of all small countries. All your revolutions will only lead to a change in "master."

[Bad_santa]

Do not dissemble either yourself or others. You know very well that this was not the root cause. You know very well that it was not genocide for political reasons. You know very well that it was not the Russians who set the Turks on you. You all know very well, but continue to dissemble. And that is to say the least. You do not think that the genocide of the Assyrians and Greeks was the same because of their sympathies for Russia? If you yourself do not know your story, then I will remind you. The genocide took place in Turkish territory, where the situation of Armenians was at the level of livestock or even lower. Any improvement in the life of the Armenian population annoyed the local Muslim population. There were constant riots of both Armenians and constant pogroms of Turks and Kurds against you. You’ve been destroyed for hundreds of years, but never at such a pace as during WWI. It was not the politics of Russia that led to this sad episode of history, but the internal wave of patriotism in the Ottoman Empire. Society has become radical in all matters. There were plans for revenge and the conquest of all the Muslim possessions of the Republic of Ingushetia. And Armenia was in these plans as a splinter as a Christian region. The general mobilization of Armenian men and their sending to the front began. With the remaining women, children and the elderly, they committed massacres. Then this wave of killings swept into the occupied territories of the Republic of Ingushetia.
You say that because you supported Russia, you got genocide. Well then, it was necessary to choose the side of the Ottoman Empire and become its subjects. Only then would you have only two choices: either to become Muslims, or to be cut to the root. Of course, when so much time has passed, you can at least weave and lie, pour slops over RI and the USSR, and don’t understand that in Russia you were like in a greenhouse, where you grew and retained your identity. In the same Ottoman Empire, so many nations were digested in the national cauldron that now you can’t figure out whose roots

[Mardvahe]

Ahpers, it’s not only Serge’s fault. I just don’t want to have a srach with anyone here.
On the other hand, the Ukrainian Maidan and the events after, in the bitter consciousness of the Russians left such a mark, that one should not be surprised that everything is perceived as the same Maidan.
In general, Serzh Sargsyan was not particularly pro-Russian. They just kept him in the Kremlin for a causal place.

[Prosha]

Under "talented" rule of Sargsyan, 400000 people left the country

If you were leaving, you would have heard, and so are leaving Armenia - you worry, every sheep carries its eggs ... this is not an insult)

[sabakina]

Quote: Bad_Santa

Name at least one country where, after street protests, they began to live better

Maybe France? .... True, there were already five of them, these ... republics ...

[Bad_santa]

After revolutions, there are usually wars and recessions. A new form of government is already being established as a result of these wars, and not as a result of revolutions. And as a rule, the idea of ​​revolution perishes in these wars

[Mardvahe]

Georgia, compared to what was under Shevardnadze.

[72jora72]

And will it be "later"?

And then they will wring out Artsakh .......

[Observer2014]

This Sergeant Sargsyan would have been better when in power he was worried about the well-being of Armenia. He stuffed his own pockets. Why talk about that. When was this? And in general, all their problems are violet to the bulb. Let them figure it out themselves. Azerbaijanis are in an ambush. As soon as. It starts right away. So the creation of "great Armenia" is postponed indefinitely.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Observer2014

Let them figure it out. Azerbaijanis are in an ambush. As soon as. So it will begin immediately.

Yeah ... Then you have to make a new entity somewhere in the form of the Armenian Autonomous Okrug, because all the Armenians, the "winners" of the regime, will leave Armenia for Russia, where about 3 million Armenians already live.

[Observer2014]

Nyrobsky (Dmitry) .

Then you have to make a new entity somewhere in the form of the Armenian Autonomous Okrug, because all the Armenians, the "winners" of the regime, will leave Armenia for Russia, where about 3 million Armenians already live.

So utozh. The truth is full of Armenians who beat with a heel in the chest and swear that they are no longer Armenians. And they feel like Russians. Of course they will destroy many. Although there are some who are not. and Armenians is a synonym. They don’t live without bribes at all. They poke money on officials left and right as it should. Who doesn’t believe, analyze the arrests of the week before last in Sochi and the Krasnodar Territory. And everything is clear as God's day will be.

[mamertinets]

It is the Armenians who are to blame for corruption in Russia. Before, the Jews were to blame for everything, and now, after the Jews moved to their historical homeland, the Armenians were blamed.

[Prosha]

Sorry Karen, where did Noah get on his ark ???)) And you still think that there are differences between Armenians and Jews?))

[APASUS]

Quote: mamertinets

It is the Armenians who are to blame for corruption in Russia. Before, the Jews were to blame for everything, and now, after the Jews moved to their historical homeland, the Armenians were blamed.

I guessed it or someone suggested?
Although you can guess where the wind blows ................

2500 American diplomats work with the three-million-strong population of Armenia, and a greater number of veiled strip diplomats work only in Germany. (If we transferred this proportion to Russia, then almost 121 thousand representatives of the State Department would have to work with us - a full-blown ideological army).

Trying to sit on two chairs can turn around badly. Although what will happen next can be predicted up to a second, the government has already run to consult with the ambassadors of “best friends” from Europe.
So do not be surprised if you are thrown

[XXXIII]

Quote: Observer2014

This Sergeant Sargsyan would have been better when in power he was worried about the well-being of Armenia. He stuffed his own pockets. Why talk about that. When was this? And in general, all their problems are violet to the bulb. Let them figure it out themselves. Azerbaijanis are in an ambush. As soon as. It starts right away. So the creation of "great Armenia" is postponed indefinitely.

Clans divided power, business then ...

[Observer2014]

XXXIII (Vladimir)

Clans divided the power, business then.

Now this one like his Pshyanyan loot from Moscow in the form of loans or tribute, more precisely, will be shared with his relatives or whoever they have there.

[XXXIII]

Quote: Observer2014

Now this one like his Pshyanyan loot from Moscow in the form of loans or tribute, more precisely, will be shared with his relatives or whoever they have there.

Yes, they will do what the past did successfully, share all the parishes ....

[albert]

And to withdraw these loans to Western banks. And we are surprised how the "Maidan"

Quote: Observer2014

Now this one, like his Pshinyan, loot from Moscow in the form of loans or tributes, more precisely,

[Xnumx vis]

He will receive tamga on board from the USA or Russia. And he will pretend that rules Armenia. He pulled his strings from Washington, Washington — he twisted his face .. Then he puts the money in his pocket ....

[Strashila]

The money in the budget will end very quickly ... after them there will be a desire to search for external enemies who are to blame for all this ... further on the scenario, hysteria and an appeal to the Americans to mentor the installation of democracy and help to destroy those who do not agree .. . classic.

[Observer2014]

Strashila (I)

The money in the budget will end very quickly ... after them there will be a desire to search for external enemies who are to blame for all this ..

And it’s not difficult to guess who is to blame. Yes, we are with you. Russian. Because we helped this Sargsyan come to power with his “loans.” What are we deaf or something that we don’t hear that the Armenians are cuddling on the streets. In general, I’m tired of listening to this nonsense and read. Let’s start on the Russians to run into everyone to check their citizenship of the Russian Federation. And then they got it with fake registration and fake state of emergency. citizenship of the Russian Federation. Everyone understands how and for what they receive and received Russian passports.

[Mardvahe]

But do not tell me when you helped Sargsyan in power and what is interesting.

[Tatyana]

Quote: MardVahe

But do not tell me when you helped Sargsyan in power and what is interesting

Why does Armenia need Russia. And vice versa

[Observer2014]

Tatyana

Why does Armenia need Russia. And vice versa

I watched the video. I remembered.
And I bring to the conclusion that what kind of nonsense it is necessary to be where we did not need to help. And where it was necessary to save and help as the last cowards chose shame.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Observer2014

And I come to the conclusion that what kind of nonsense it is necessary to be where we did not need to help. And where it was necessary to save and help as the last cowards chose shame.

But here, too, has its own trap.
First of all, Russia should not LOSE the war on the DIPLOMATIC front - the corresponding special services of the Russian Federation should work much better abroad.
However, since the days of Stalin, beginning with the coming to power of Khrushchev, our country began to lose this professionalism in its favor and now has almost lost it. In this field, the enemies beat us. There have already been relevant articles on this topic.

[Observer2014]

Tatyana

But here, too, there is a trap.

Tatyana. Yes, there is a trap everywhere. It’s only useless to explain why we should save the Armenians. More precisely, finance. And further. And at our expense they will go to this gap for anyone. But in the Donbass it’s not an easy choice to make. in 2014. Moreover, wait another time with Belarus, there will be trouble in turn. Our people will also recognize the new government in Ukraine. And they will send money. That's what infuriates. People’s friendship doesn’t work. It’s impossible. Here we’re waiting for the circus. ours recognize the Armenian coup. That's all. This is the point of no return.

[sabakina]

Sergey, wait and see. Do not wait, fuck.

[Dr_engie]

"The money in the budget will end very quickly ... after them there will be a desire to search for external enemies who are to blame for all this ..."
Oh, something reminds me very much .... Russia

[dvina71]

Quote: Dr_Engie

Oh, something reminds me very much .... Russia

Do not tell me .. when did the money in the budget of the Russian Federation run out?

[Muvka]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Dr_Engie

Oh, something reminds me very much .... Russia

Do not tell me .. when did the money in the budget of the Russian Federation run out?

I’ll disappoint you - you won’t get an answer ...

[japs]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Dr_Engie

Oh, something reminds me very much .... Russia

Do not tell me .. when did the money in the budget of the Russian Federation run out?

DAM recently answered this question. So hold on there! All the best!

[dvina71]

Quote: japs

DAM recently answered this question.

And I DID not explain to you that the budget of the Russian Federation is not a pension fund?

[sabakina]

Gennady, millet japs ​​mixed up his pocket with the state!

[svp67]

Quote: Strashila

after them there will be a desire to search for external enemies who are to blame for all this ...

No, first they will begin to appoint, search and “crush” “internal enemies” ...

[Strashila]

Lines of the best citizens of Armenia to hold posts in the ministries, they will not fight a lot for briefcases throwing dirt ... more classic ... cleansing from predecessors, setting up high-profile cases on them. The law enforcement agencies will start to run up, no one wants to be extreme ..., the frenzied Armenian revolutionaries will ask Russia to withdraw their troops and not interfere with the sovereignty of Armenia, using all this turmoil, Azerbaijan will clear Karabakh and make its own buffer province from a fire from neighbors, it will cost a little expensive , but it will be worth it ... Aliyev himself needs power ... under the guise of war, he will clear the opposition.

[Opera]

Congratulations to the Armenians and especially those who told us here day and night that everything is fine! If it’s good for the Armenians, then this is definitely not our business with you! It remains only to congratulate the Azerbaijanis, and I congratulate you! I hope in the future towards Russia to nod and will not point a finger ?! To all sisters by earrings!)

[Lekxnumx]

Az-tsev then why congratulate? Radish horseradish is not sweeter, one YAN left the second came, YAN he is also in Africa YAN. With their Hayastan Artsa.he Araratos there will be no peace treaty.
And the war, by the way, where did the tanks that pulled in go to? In declared war on Armenians on behalf of the Az-tsevs, but the Az-tsi didn’t come to war. Our politicians, or rather the “careerists” elders, sat on their seats so much that they couldn’t raise their fifth points to give an order. For that they can shake the air with stupid statements. They have their own party there now, not before the war.
I also congratulate the Armenians without sarcasm.

[Opera]

Yes, leave you alone. Understand yourself, as you want!))))) Do not congratulate you ?!))))) Yes, please, do not congratulate! Have you lost your tanks ?! Well, look!)))))

[Lekxnumx]

Quote: Oper

Yes, leave you alone. Understand yourself, as you want!))))) Do not congratulate you ?!))))) Yes, please, do not congratulate! Have you lost your tanks ?! Well, look!)))))

Just quote myself and you
I- "VO declared war on the Armenians on behalf of the Az-tsev, but the Az-ts did not come to war"
You- "Yes, leave you alone" and the climax
Once again, "You lost your tanks ?! Well, look!)))))"
Here it is the mysterious logic of a Russian person idem per idem! All the best .

[Opera]

The Russian man also has a mysterious soul! You see, our information resource VO can even declare a war on behalf of Azerbaijanis according to your words!))))) Let me take the courage on behalf of VO to tell you to hang up! On my own I’ll add, make peace with the Armenians in general and honestly share Karabakh! Only honestly and without stabbing! Is the task clear ?! All! Around the step to perform the march! Running allow!
And don't come back fast!

[mamertinets]

Thank you, Lek. One of the adequate forum users from sunny Azerbaijan.

[sabakina]

Damn, guys, what are you all missing?

[Storming the Washington]

Do you like democracy or Karabakh more? Can you do both? Bargaining is not appropriate here!

[Egorovich]

It seems that with Pashinyan, Armenia will soon turn into Tse-Europe No. 2. An inglorious end is expected.

[Strashila]

Aliyev has already proclaimed Yerevan the province of Azerbaijan ... there are all chances to realize this.

[Egorovich]

To want does not mean to be able to. It is unlikely that this will come of it.

[dgonni]

A mustache will be good! . Already one mention in the news, I mean Russian. what kind of parallel to us , talks about the simple essence of resolving the issue. Negotiated and clogged positions. Russia cannot bear the second bloody Maidan. What for? goat piano? If it is possible to resolve all issues with economic leverage, let it be longer but more pragmatic.
P.S. by the way! Events in Ukraine showed a complete lack of understanding of the situation in the country and the consequences of the actions committed after that.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: dgonni

Russia will not bear the second bloody maidan. What for? goat piano?

Yes, that would be very difficult. After all, as they say, a holy place does not happen to be empty, there will be Americans or Turks or Azerbaijanis, etc. etc. And the rest of the sovereigns in this corner like wolves look into the forest ...

[72jora72]

P.S. by the way! Events in Ukraine showed a complete lack of understanding of the situation in the country and the consequences of the actions committed after that.

Are you talking about your "Chocolate" and the company of oligophrenics with certificates? So yes, you correctly described the situation.

[taiga2018]

the ruling party is likely to give the necessary number of votes to calm the protesters, say choke, and then we'll see, it’s one thing to gulp on the street, and another thing to do boring, real work ... the protesters now think that it will not be worse than under Sargsyan, but in the Sumerians, they also thought that it would not be worse than under Yanukovych, but it turns out that Poroshenko had his own opinion on this ... I personally wish the people of Armenia if not prosperity, then at least not a big improvement in life, so that there would be no war , and without this we have enough problems ...

[Brut]

Quote: taiga2018

I personally wish the people of Armenia, if not prosperity, then at least not a big improvement in life, so that there would be no war, we have enough problems without this ...

Thanks for your kind words.

[RedKors1953]

Oh guys all wrong! Everything is not as it should.

[BZTM]

Quote: Logall

And do not care who is in power, it's their business ...

Golden words, enough for us to look at others, not everything is safe in our “kingdom” ourselves-

[Vard]

Yes ... the Armenians got ... he will teach them to love their homeland ...

[Mountain shooter]

The population is less than 3 million! Of these, 1 million are in Yerevan. In short, tens of thousands of people dictate their will to the country, and the authorities, having missed the initiative, can only “squeeze” from the corner ...

[BZTM]

And where was it different? Ukraine-40 million. Several thousand people still may dictate their will ...

[Graz]

and you know that after Iraq, the second largest US embassy is in Armenia, it seems to me that everything is very simply explained with these protests by Cui Bono as the ancient Romans said

[Mardvahe]

How many times can one chant the same mantra. The Americans have nothing to do with it, they themselves were in ah. For a whole week there was no spirit or rumor from them. And there were no special problems with Sergeemiu.

[Graz]

US State Department announces readiness for close cooperation with new Armenian government
US authorities said they were ready to work closely with the new government of Armenia and strengthen relations between the countries. This was reported by Interfax with reference to the “Civil Agreement” party, which is headed by the leader of the protest movement in Armenia Nikol Pashinyan. The report said that Pashinyan had a telephone conversation with US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Wess Mitchell, during which they discussed internal political processes in Armenia.

"U. Mitchell noted that the US government is ready to closely cooperate with the new government of Armenia, to further strengthen the Armenian-American relations, ”the party said.

Also, the US Assistant Secretary of State "pronounced praise towards the Armenian people and expressed hope that the police and demonstrators will avoid violence."
______________

yes yes we are all here naive Chukchi youth

[Mardvahe]

But do not cite the reaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry, or you can just pour dirt on everyone. The Americans fussed at the end, when everything was already clear, and Russia from the very beginning stated that it would not intervene, that is, to some extent gave the green light to a change of power.

[Brut]

Don’t worry, the fellow countryman, there’s a large grouping of information troops (non-traditional orientation) in VO who like Russian-Armenian allied relations like a bone in the throat. So they shout that Nikol demands to withdraw the Russian base from Armenia, although in fact he said that Russia and Armenia are strategic allies. And even a large diaspora of great-power chauvinists who think that the earth is spinning around their sofa.

[Strashila]

You yourself believe in it ... a good indicator of students of the American training center, they showed who steers in the country and gives them orders.

[Mardvahe]

What other cadets.

[Strashila]

US-led Peacekeeping Training Center

[Prosha]

The Americans have nothing to do with it, they themselves were in ah

The Americans know how to quickly seize the initiative, I really would not want your Pashinyan to have a “snout in the lint”, otherwise they would pick him up so much that he would not want to, but he would lead Armenia to 52 US state.

[BVS]

And you can provide links to sources of knowledge that "after Iraq, the second largest US embassy is in Armenia." And not the territory of embassies or the possible number of residence there. Namely, the number of diplomatic personnel. Good luck in your search!

[sogdy]

Quote: bvs

And you can provide links to sources of knowledge that "after Iraq, the second largest US embassy is in Armenia."

Wiki data on US diplomatic missions lie on all countries. Quite simply, the US does not indicate secondary and support staff. And they also have local hired staff. And yes, the second after Germany.

[mamertinets]

Quote: sogdy

Quote: sefevi

I, an Azerbaijani, is shocked by your "discovery"

Object. Your vote against two fraternities.

I know that in Georgian the word "ara" means "no."

[tagil]

A new NATO program has already been prepared for Armenia, which will significantly expand the scope of cooperation.

Meanwhile, Armenia itself is playing a difficult game: on the one hand, it seems to favorably perceive the allure of NATO, and on the other, it expects the go-ahead of Moscow, without which Yerevan will not take a single serious step. Armenia, in spite of the fact that it gives the impression of a “unimportant” state in world politics, is in fact strategically important both for the West and for Russia.

For the Russian Federation, this is an outpost on the southern borders, and the presence of a Russian military base on the border with Turkey and Iran symbolizes the presence of Moscow in the Middle East region and makes it necessary for the states of the region to reckon with the Kremlin. The West, taking this opportunity, is trying to drive Armenia out of Russia’s orbit and thus oust Moscow in the Caucasus.

That is why Armenia has turned into a valuable partner. However, she herself started a clearly risky game on two fronts, which is very, very fraught ... [quote] [/ quote]

[Altona]

Quote: MardVahe

They are just tired of the same faces of both the authorities and the "opposition" with their eternal intrigues and agreement.

Do you think something will change for the Armenian people?

[Strashila]

Yes ... only for a very small part of it.

[Mardvahe]

Erysipelas are younger and perhaps something. I hope so.

[tagil]

[quote] [/ quote] A new NATO program has already been prepared for Armenia, which will significantly expand the scope of cooperation.

Meanwhile, Armenia itself is playing a difficult game: on the one hand, it seems to favorably perceive the allure of NATO, and on the other, it expects the go-ahead of Moscow, without which Yerevan will not take a single serious step. Armenia, in spite of the fact that it gives the impression of a “unimportant” state in world politics, is in fact strategically important both for the West and for Russia.

For the Russian Federation, this is an outpost on the southern borders, and the presence of a Russian military base on the border with Turkey and Iran symbolizes the presence of Moscow in the Middle East region and makes it necessary for the states of the region to reckon with the Kremlin. The West, taking this opportunity, is trying to drive Armenia out of Russia’s orbit and thus oust Moscow in the Caucasus.

That is why Armenia has turned into a valuable partner. However, she herself started a clearly risky game on two fronts, which is very, very fraught ...

The NATO base in Armenia can control the entire Transcaucasus and the Caspian Sea.

[Cossack 471]

Ukrainian rake with an Armenian ornament! Led like children. like Ukrainians on cookies. And where are the popular elections? You entrusted the fate of your country to a handful of people in the square. you will cry with bloody tears ...

[APASUS]

Another troll on the site

[cormorant]

The wind in the ass and the drum on the neck ...

[mamertinets]

Quote: cormorant

The wind in the ass and the drum on the neck ...

Same to you...

[Dormidont]

Our Western and Middle Eastern partners firmly know their job

[hhhhhhh]

First decree, prohibition of the Russian language. Declaration of the time of the USSR occupation. Visa-free regime for leaving the remains of graduates. The training manual is one.

[mamertinets]

Quote: hhhhhhh

First decree, prohibition of the Russian language. Declaration of the time of the USSR occupation. Visa-free regime for leaving the remains of graduates. The training manual is one.

Do not write nonsense - how can you ban Russian or, for example, English in Armenia - the government will issue a decree and the entire population will take it under the hood and rush to comply with government decrees.

[hhhhhhh]

Dear, how can you ban the Russian language in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, the Baltic states?
How so?

[mamertinets]

Quote: hhhhhhh

Dear, how can you ban the Russian language in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, the Baltic states?
How so?

So explain to me - how could the Russian language be banned in the Baltic states? How can people be banned from speaking their native language? In the Baltic, every Russian-speaking agent is followed by a local secret police agent, and if a person escapes even one word, grab it on the bunk?

[hhhhhhh]

What kind of universe do you guys live in? If you have not yet been imprisoned, but already dismissed and fined.

[hhhhhhh]

What kind of universe do you guys live in? If you have not yet been imprisoned, but already dismissed and fined.

[petrol cutter]

Adequately uncle performed. What is wrong ?!

[16112014nk]

History teaches that teaches nothing. ©
It seemed to the Armenians of Ukraine a little. Moreover, Turkey is across the road.

[demo]

I read the comments and I have an opinion about that. that only imperials gathered here.
And Russia is still the Russian Empire. And Armenia is one of the provinces. In which unauthorized movements began against the will of the emperor.
And everything is so imposing, from the lordly shoulder, they throw such slogans: well, let them try, have a sip, then Karabakh will be squeezed out of them, then Armenia will end.
How can one talk so poorly.
It will be like in a joke: Doctor. Sick your case is not brilliant. You can’t drink, you can’t smoke, no loads, forget about sex. Take medicines on the list (pulls out a sheet with a small print).
Sick. Doctor and then can I have a beer?
Doctor. When later?
Sick. In future.
Doctor. In what future?
Blind people.
The creation of Anaconda Loops is nearing completion.
Afghanistan. Georgia. Armenia. Then Azerbaijan. Kazakhstan. Ukraine. Next in line are Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan. For a snack Belarus.
Finland, Norway to NATO.
Balts to NATO.
And we all console ourselves with hopes that Gazprom selling our gas to the EU is the guarantor of our stability and security.
All the same, the Americans will not leave Syria alone.
And they will put together a new coalition of Persian animals.
Which harness to the fullest.
And we in that mess will either have to extinguish, all in a row, or tear the claws.
Choose what you like more.
And the thing is that the guarantor, who was engaged in foreign policy, turned out to be a kid who decided to breed serious uncles.
At first, everything looked like success.
But it turned out that the guy just overlooked the obvious things.
It was necessary to thoroughly "work" with the "elites" of the former Soviet republics.
Gingerbread is not as expensive as it seems. A whip is a much more effective means.
And Ukraine had to "level off" to full insanity.
Then the rest would have thought.
Is it worth putting your head under a bullet for American candy wrappers.
Output.
Took to steer such a country as Russia, be affectionate and be strict, and with enemies and friends.
And if at your place the mess the prime minister has spread and the liberal rabble from top to bottom, then who can you rely on?
So the events in Armenia are the final, final part of the tragedy.
And even in our lives we will see quite negative consequences of our stupidity and laziness.

[Golovan Jack]

You wrote # capital letters just to say that "the glass is half empty" (already).
To be honest, it's just lazy to refute (point by point, og) everything you have listed. I can, but I do not want.
However, to say that you and you have not stated the above, ahem, the ultimate truth - IMHO is still worth it.
What am I doing

[Opera]

Do you know what you really want? So that Armenians and Azerbaijanis and Georgians and Moldovans and ... In general, they would sooner recognize themselves as states! Well, that's what there are! So that they forget about the Russian Empire and about the USSR that gave each of them oil development, statehood, and who were not allowed to sink into historical nonexistence ... Some of them asked for it as part of our state, some of them just about it begged in tears and on his knees !!!! We are reconciling someone all the time, helping someone ... But on all sides, it’s not enough, give me more, they gave them more to us, give them not to let us, they didn’t give us anything, but we still have to !!!! You are not tired of this guys ?! Let them forget both the Russian Empire and the Union, which many of them call the prison of peoples and the scoop! And it’s time for us to stop paying attention to their moans, curses, jumps and tweaks! Do we need something from them ?! Well, seriously? What to take from them at all ?! Ponte, Ponte ... Well, here too!)

[Prosha]

It was necessary to thoroughly "work" with the "elites" of the former Soviet republics.

IMHO do not work with them, because the appetites of the latter are too large, and too little conscience ... is more expensive for themselves. It’s easier for Americans - they have a machine that will buy everyone. A lot of rigor is also bad - they’ll go where they regret it, America has always been able to promise! So it turns out that from all sides - a wedge! So that we don’t have too much stupidity and laziness. We would have to rake with our Pashinyans, otherwise the hour is uneven ...

[Tank hard]

And why is the individual dressed in the photo? Laurels of Che Guevara do not give peace?)

[Alekspel]

Very much like the Maidan. It seems that the Americans continue to encircle Russia from all sides. Even if they simply arrange a mess like on Urkain, then we will have an unhealthy situation, not to mention the hostile government in Armenia. About Ukraine, too, at first they said that nothing terrible would happen. And now they are enemies number 1. Well, if it happens as in Ukraine, then the Armenians need to wander home, and they are unlikely to want to voluntarily. So the sea can arise here too. So nothing good is this so-called Russian revolution does not bode well.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: mamertinets

Quote: Bad_Santa

Whether another question will succeed or not already. But I would not want to be at our expense. Therefore, if we screwed up in Armenia, we will have to withdraw our military base from there and block all funding channels. This suitcase without a handle is already not worth pulling as Ukraine. Then from the side you can observe how these independent and proud people will lose Nagorno-Karabakh, and then the whole of Armenia. They believe that all their independence is built on their armed forces, and we are invaders there. need to give them plenty to jump on a rake

I have a business proposal for the Russians - hold a referendum in your country about the fate of the Russian base with us, if the Russian people approve the issue of withdrawing the bases - withdraw. But each time I raise this topic in your comments I consider it an element of overt blackmail.

Actually, that's right, Karen says. This is your base, as well as the theme of Karabakh, like a club over their heads and not only them) Some kind of wild dilemma: either Sergeant stealing into the end or a base, etc. ... Can let the Armenians choose for themselves? Even in Azerbaijan they try not to discuss it. Because, ceteris paribus, Pashinyan’s belligerent speeches, or personality, for example, of Karapetyan (although he seems to be quite an intelligent person) since for Azerbaijanis (I think) there isn’t much difference in principle, apart from the obvious choice of almost all the people of Armenia and their reputation Sargsyan in Azerbaijan, as a person whose hands are up to the elbow in the blood of peaceful Azerbaijani residents of Karabakh and other regions of Azerbaijan. At least for others, I mean Pashinyan, Karapetyan and others. Such a reputation does not seem to exist, again, apart from the usual ultra-nationalism politician and Pashinyan’s warlike rhetoric, they look more or less shook hands for negotiations. Maybe I'm not well informed and wrong.

[zollstab]

These clever people who live in other people's ideas and do not include their own head off, are certainly waiting for the circulation procedure, but for a simple reason, circumcision.

[Sergey ippon]

but with a union, nothing of the kind could have happened!
lived as one family and everything national was, not foreign ...
there wasn’t enough sausage for them on the shelves ...

[72jora72]

but with a union, nothing of the kind could have happened!
lived as one family and everything national was, not foreign ...
there wasn’t enough sausage for them on the shelves ...

By the way, the Armenian SSR is the only republic where Russians practically did not live (like other non-Armenians) ....... I wonder why

[Red webs]

You must immediately appoint the US ambassador as prime minister!

[NordUral]

It is hoped that they will not follow the path of the Outskirts.

[wow]

Yeah, the Armenians do not repent! We will choose until they choose me .... All this has already taken place in the country. Get out, damn it!

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Freedom1

Quote: Scorpio05

Quote: mamertinets

Quote: Bad_Santa

Whether another question will succeed or not already. But I would not want to be at our expense. Therefore, if we screwed up in Armenia, we will have to withdraw our military base from there and block all funding channels. This suitcase without a handle is already not worth pulling as Ukraine. Then from the side you can observe how these independent and proud people will lose Nagorno-Karabakh, and then the whole of Armenia. They believe that all their independence is built on their armed forces, and we are invaders there. need to give them plenty to jump on a rake

I have a business proposal for the Russians - hold a referendum in your country about the fate of the Russian base with us, if the Russian people approve the issue of withdrawing the bases - withdraw. But each time I raise this topic in your comments I consider it an element of overt blackmail.

Actually, that's right, Karen says. This is your base, as well as the theme of Karabakh, like a club over their heads and not only them) Some kind of wild dilemma: either Sergeant stealing into the end or a base, etc. ... Can let the Armenians choose for themselves? Even in Azerbaijan they try not to discuss it. Because, ceteris paribus, Pashinyan’s belligerent speeches, or personality, for example, of Karapetyan (although he seems to be quite an intelligent person) since for Azerbaijanis (I think) there isn’t much difference in principle, apart from the obvious choice of almost all the people of Armenia and their reputation Sargsyan in Azerbaijan, as a person whose hands are up to the elbow in the blood of peaceful Azerbaijani residents of Karabakh and other regions of Azerbaijan. At least for others, I mean Pashinyan, Karapetyan and others. Such a reputation does not seem to exist, again, apart from the usual ultra-nationalism politician and Pashinyan’s warlike rhetoric, they look more or less shook hands for negotiations. Maybe I'm not well informed and wrong.

What are you white and fluffy, go nuts. And Armenians have their hands to the elbow in blood. Didn’t your regular army, taking advantage of the surrender of land, cut off your heads and posed in the photo, didn’t you chop off the heads of the sleeping people and give out the star of the hero after that, didn’t you cut off the ears of 90-year-old people, didn’t you burn people alive, beat them with armatures?

Do not make yourself martyrs. Your moral character has long been revealed.

Do not engage in typical Armenian demagogy. For each case that you have cited, you need to contact the source. And these are social networks from which various kinds of dubious information arose. Individual incidents may occur of this kind. And yours is the next Armenian howl about the "killing in a dream" in a normal person generally causes laughter. Have you ever been to foreign hotels and training or university campuses? I personally have many times. When a tenant covers the door, the door automatically locks tightly! The doors are opened with an individual electronic key (of course, not suitable for other doors) or in particularly archaic institutions with an ordinary key. Other comrades who attended training or foreign trips can also confirm. As you can imagine, breaking into a closed (!) Room to a sleeping person and cutting him off, who continues to sleep after the door is taken out)) This tear Armenian radio can tell your children. As for the killings and the “white and fluffy”, this is not just about individual incidents, but about massive, systematic (!) And brutal violence and the extermination of Azerbaijani children, women, old people, atrocities against prisoners of war in dozens (!) Settlements Karabakh and other settlements of Azerbaijan, including Khojaly, Agdaban, Karadaghly, Baganis-Ayrum, Kosaly, Mesheli, Lachin and others. These atrocities, especially the Armenian atrocities in Khojaly are documented by international observers. And we are talking about a man who practically admitted in a conversation with British journalist Thomas de Waal his participation in this atrocity. Moreover, he was one of the winners of the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh. Serzh Sargsyan: “Before Khojaly, Azerbaijanis thought that we could make jokes with us, they thought that the Armenians were not able to raise their hands on the civilian population. We managed to break this stereotype.” (Thomas de Waal. The Black Garden, p. 235). "

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Quote: Scorpio05

including Khojaly,

"Repeat the lie a thousand times and it will become true."

[Brigadier]

Yes, and to hell with them! Why feel sorry for them? The law is not written to fools!
Apparently, dill did not teach them anything. Let them feel the beauty of "Western democracy" on their ass.
We just need to have time to close the borders to enter Armenia from Russia, and let the Turks and Azerbaijanis teach them there ... Well, they can fully guarantee the unforgettable sensations for the Armenians ... After all, they themselves wanted to experience them. The main thing for us is not to interfere. Masochists must not be disturbed!

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Freedom1

Quote: Tagil

A new NATO program has already been prepared for Armenia, which will significantly expand the scope of cooperation.

Meanwhile, Armenia itself is playing a difficult game: on the one hand, it seems to favorably perceive the allure of NATO, and on the other, it expects the go-ahead of Moscow, without which Yerevan will not take a single serious step. Armenia, in spite of the fact that it gives the impression of a “unimportant” state in world politics, is in fact strategically important both for the West and for Russia.

For the Russian Federation, this is an outpost on the southern borders, and the presence of a Russian military base on the border with Turkey and Iran symbolizes the presence of Moscow in the Middle East region and makes it necessary for the states of the region to reckon with the Kremlin. The West, taking this opportunity, is trying to drive Armenia out of Russia’s orbit and thus oust Moscow in the Caucasus.

That is why Armenia has turned into a valuable partner. However, she herself started a clearly risky game on two fronts, which is very, very fraught ...

Here you are very smart. And what could we do? List the names of weapons that you shamelessly shipped to the fuel oil sultanate, well aware of who it will fire at? Just don’t need me to bring the lame excuses now, that, you know, it’s not a weapon that shoots, but people, not we are so different. Merchants failed.

It and not only it, but also weapons from a dozen other countries will shoot at the occupier occupying our lands (not only Karabakh, but also 7 purely Azerbaijani populated areas), destroying our cities and villages, expelling and destroying our civilians. What do you think will sit calmly and impudently on our lands, and the Azerbaijani army will applaud you? If that happens, as a result of your howl, Russia’s share in weapons may soon decrease significantly, but the competition is fierce in the market and the market is large. And Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, does not beg with an outstretched hand, but pays with real money on time. Others will sell with pleasure)

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Quote: Scorpio05

And Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, does not beg with an outstretched hand, but pays with real money on time. Others will sell with pleasure)

But something is in no hurry to sell. Maybe real money is over?

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Freedom1

How is it that it turned out that on the izkonnyh lands of Azirbachan, eeeee ala, the Sheitan Armenians always made up the majority of eeeee ??

The old hebeshnik, the cunning fox Aliyev has already begun to change the demographic appearance of Karabakh, but did not have time. And it would be claimed with the typical Turkic impudence that your Karabakh (following the example of Nakhichevan, Western Armenia, Cyprus)

A. S. Griboedov “Note on the resettlement of Armenians from Persia to our regions”, 1828
So it was during the resettlement; but when placing them in our new places everything was done senselessly, carelessly and inexcusably. A committee was set up to manage them, which did not know anything, and all the more worthy of condemnation, because of [your] excellency] had the most accurate and detailed instruction on what to do in this case:

1) The Armenians are mostly settled on the lands of Muslim landlords. In summer, this could still be allowed. The hosts, Muslims, were mostly on nomads and had few cases of communicating with non-religious aliens.

2) No forest has been prepared and no other places have been allotted for the durable placement of immigrants. All this at one time was lost. Correct the error for this year is late. The immigrants themselves are cramped and oppressed by Muslims, who grumble and thoroughly. In [yours] with [the estate] it is known that in general all the local inhabitants in difficulty should be considered immigrants, because they were all evicted by the sardar in wartime and are in very poor condition.

3) The cash state allowance was distributed to no avail: they handed out one ruble, two, like beggars, without the right information, how many were in need and who needed what. 25 rubles issued at a time are ten times more important than the same amount allotted fractionally at different times. No general measure has been taken, such as: the purchase of bread for the maintenance of the whole society, also for sowing for next year, etc.
For all this, despite all the opposition of the Persians, the transition of Christians from Aderbijan to our regions, as can be seen from the last reports I received, is carried out successfully and is now settled already in Karabag 279 and in Yerivan region 948 families, the number of all migrants in assurance of the regiment. Lazarev will extend over 5000 families.
We also talked a lot about the suggestions that Muslims should make in order to reconcile them with their current burden, which will not be long-term, and to eradicate from them the fear that the Armenians will forever take over the lands where they were first allowed to go. In that sense, it was spoken by me and the police master, members of the board and khans that I had here
Adjutant General Count Paskevich Erivansky

TsGVIA, f. VUA, d. 978, l. 22-26. Script.

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In 1978, the monument "Maraga-150" was erected in the village of Maraga, Agderinsky district. It was erected in memory of the 150th anniversary of the resettlement of Armenians in Karabakh. With the beginning of the territorial claims of Armenia against Azerbaijan, the monument "Maraga-150" was intentionally demolished by the Armenians in 1988. Maragha is a city in Iran from which the Armenians were resettled, this village was named after the settlers.

[motorized rifle]

Something tells me that the United States is working according to a pattern, whereas in Ukraine there should be a rich oligarch who needs power and the Americans will help him get it. Of course, I don’t know who it is, but I came across (on the internet), supposedly the richest (or one of the most) Armenian oligarchs, Garik Tsarukyan. Why not him? And Pashinyan is a screen, for now, anyway.
And these strange phrases of Pashinyan: “Any citizen of Armenia will have equal opportunities along with everyone else. This applies to economics, politics, education and other areas. " "From now on, there will never be clan rule and any territorial division of people in Armenia." “From now on, power will not belong to any person, any party, any group of power, it will belong only to the people.” Read it carefully and find at least one country on the world map (except for the future Armenia), where this is possible! It remains to add that the new government will cover the country with a network of zoos and everyone will have their own gramophone (s). Did Mavrodi die or did I miss something? Of course 3 million to feed is not 33 (it's about America Ukraine and Armenia) is still cheaper. And yes, as Comrade said. Stalin in an interview with one French writer (not a quote): "... for the revolution, of course, it is important to have trained detachments of revolutionaries, but without the support of the people, even if passive, you cannot make a revolution ..." There is active and passive support , so that success is ensured. Hence one more conclusion. In this case, actively intervening in the processes taking place now in Armenia (for Russia), is absolutely pointless and unpromising. In addition to expenses, it will not do anything now (I think so), we must wait and focus on propaganda, this is certainly not a blitzkrieg, but it will bear fruit.
You need to help according to the Syrian (Donbass) principle, only to someone who himself is ready to fight.
Well, if the Americans straddle the process, then Karabakh can be taken away without war. I’ve already read at some military comrades from other Armenian comrades to other Armenian comrades: "... they say the Karabakh clans will never reign in Armenia .... and that over 90% of the Karabakh army are non-Karabakh Armenians." Is it clear how Americans should work?
And if you divide, then you can rule. They inspire, and they know how, that there is no sense for the Armenians to defend “such and such Karabakh,” and that’s all, the Karabakh people themselves will not pull it. Yes, to promise to exchange Karabakh for European nishtyaki and write is gone. As practice shows, there are no smart peoples, from the word completely, all are the same: two hands, two legs, and instead of a head a pumpkin, I will tell you a secret, even Jews! Therefore, the correct analysis is simple enough, predict the worst option and be sure that the power that came to power (sorry for the tautology) in such an unconstitutional way, will choose this one, the worst option.
Well, in conclusion, a joke in the subject. There is a representative of the northern nationality on the shore of the Bering Strait and shouts in the direction of Alaska: - Americans are poor! Americans are beggars! From the American coast they answer: - Why are the poor? Alaska bought it! And the representative of the northern nationality: Yeah, they bought Alaska, but there was not enough money for Chukotka! Beggars!

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Quote: motorized infantryman

I’ll tell you a secret, even the Jews!

And we are right Jews, they are not right (a joke, if that ..).

[Lunt]

If this U.S. fettler comes to power, then everything will end according to the Ukrainian scenario. Therefore, the Russian Foreign Ministry should now open its eyes to the citizens of Armenia if the authorities of Armenia cannot do this. Otherwise, another country with an anti-Russian regime and US bases will appear.

[steelmaker]

BARS !!!!!!

[Mikhail Zubkov]

The peaceful surrender of the supposedly “pro-Russian” power (actually almost openly pro-Western, with a few exceptions) to the authorities in Yerevan finally creates a good reason for Russia to leave this dead-end in all senses of Armenia, doomed to a long war for the dead-end Nagorno-Karabakh, with Azerbaijan and Turkey (and not only), to stop spending state forces and means by inertia on those who have long betrayed our common Soviet history, have long been participating in the military-political "exercises" of the United States and NATO, have long been proud of family ties with the West, and even began long ago the historical rehabilitation of enemies and traitors of the people who collaborated with Hitler during the Second World War. It will not be easy for us to overcome age-old inertia, but it’s time, it’s time to do it. Russia’s need for Armenia has dried up, and it’s better for us to transfer the sentiments of “alliance” from three-millionth triple-armed Armenia to 90 million Iran - this strategic path and Russia's ally is really needed in the “Big Game” with the Western enemy’s alliance that has really made itself ready for war with us. Our troops should be withdrawn from Armenia by agreement to Iran, to the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Oman. We now have a real prospect of a breakthrough "to the southern seas", and not to the mountain wilderness of "Great Armenia". Let her deal with her Russophobic Natsik herself. Even according to the “Georgian version”, which has already proved to the Georgians its impasse. The Armenians, too, let them go this bloody and inglorious path. We have enough of our Armenians and Georgians in Russia, even in abundance.

[net0103net]

Everything is really velvet. Sargsyan prepared a perch and chased so that Pashinyan would climb on it completely “legally”. The only problem is to scare and bribe competitors and deputies. I think this has already been done, they just pause, so that without a pale. Further it will be even more interesting, there will be a "revival" of Armenia. I think it will begin with the state. security ... We look forward to other news, the elections are no longer interesting.

[mann-mann]

The "democracy" of the wise Armenian people turned out to be a cheap farce!

[Scorpio05]

Quote: net0103net

Everything is really velvet. Sargsyan prepared a perch and chased so that Pashinyan would climb on it completely “legally”. The only problem is to scare and bribe competitors and deputies. I think this has already been done, they just pause, so that without a pale. Further it will be even more interesting, there will be a "revival" of Armenia. I think it will begin with the state. security ... We look forward to other news, the elections are no longer interesting.

Yes indeed. It seems like a conspiracy, with the participation of Sargsyan. First version: Agreements on Karabakh were ready and the Armenian leadership in the person of Sargsyan again decided (like Kocharyan used to go through the toilet) to dump, wanting to keep the land (and as much land as possible) of Azerbaijan with him for as long as possible. And it will be seen there ... Since the still agent of the Soviet KGB, Serge Sargsyan could not directly reject the proposal, which would be dangerous to refuse, they played just such a “coup”, with a plush police, with Sargsyan, who allegedly decided to “peacefully” transfer power . With his party, from the post of chairman of which he resigned, and then the party decided in an amazing way not to participate in the election of the prime minister, having a majority in parliament. All the political forces of Armenia, except, understandably, “Fir-tree”, suddenly refused to nominate their candidate for the prime minister, clearing a place for Pashinyan. Some kind of Hollywood story))
Examples in recent Armenian history were: the deposition of Ter-Petrosyan just by the Karabakh duality - Sargsyan and Kocharyan before an almost ready agreement on Karabakh, then the shooting of the parliament is also a muddy story and also before the signing of important documents on Karabakh with Azerbaijan through the mediation of guarantor countries. And now another Armenian inflammation of cunning. Strange behavior of Sargsyan and his party and other political forces.

The second version, also disappointing for Russia. The Armenians felt something (feel) or learned through their strong lobby in the west, and also from the Russian one. Something like Tabaka who heard that Akela started to miss) Well, the rats exited the ship, and as always in history, it started with the Armenians, by agreement (first among themselves, then with other forces), quietly jumping off from the Russian hook. I understand) Conspiracy Theory. But nothing else comes to mind.

[darksoul]

Well, everything rushed soul to paradise ..... now they will have freedom .... so many countries and such a simple scheme and everyone thinks that they themselves did it))) ..... I have purple on them .... .will live better, I’ll only rejoice, maybe to us this spiky stream will decrease

[Leonid Dymov]

Pashinyan belongs to the same breed of people as Navalny, Ksyusha Sobchak, Poroshenko. It is obvious that Pashinyan, on orders from the United States, will expel the Russians from the military base. Our diplomats must work with the Armenians to prevent this from happening. Perhaps the Americans will achieve their goal. We will lose the base, and the Armenians will lose Armenia. This is how NATO countries destroyed Libya, Yugoslavia, and Ukraine.

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Quote: Leonid Dymov

Our diplomats must work with the Armenians

Gold words.

[Leonid Dymov]

Russia needs to unite back with the Russian World, which we lost due to the stupidity and betrayal of the communist nomenklatura. These are northern Kazakhstan, southeastern Ukraine, Transnistria, Belarus, eastern Latvia and Estonia. Let the Armenians make their own choice. Modern Russia does not need territorial expansion. The US does not claim Mexico or even English-speaking Canada. Modern strong states do not need new territories, but vassals.

[Wolka]

The Yankees need bases in the Caspian Sea not so much for transit to Afghanistan, but rather to neutralize Russia and Iran; Armenia is also another link in this goal

[Leonid Dymov]

What is alarming about Pashinyan’s program is that he wants Armenia to leave the EurAsEC. This suggests that sooner or later, under US control, he will demand Armenia’s withdrawal from the CSTO. Armenia’s exit from the EurAsEC is likely to be beneficial for Russia, since Armenia is an enclave surrounded by hostile states, with which it is difficult to engage in trade partnerships. But if the partnership between the Russian Federation and Armenia in the CSTO is liquidated, then cooperation with Armenia is completely uninteresting for us.
After this, Russia will eliminate the problem with Nagorno-Karabakh, which will be occupied by Azerbaijan.
Of course, it will be easier for NATO countries to communicate with Armenia through Georgia, which is hostile to us. Having lost Karabakh, Armenians may receive a visa-free regime in the EU.

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Quote: Leonid Dymov

What is alarming about Pashinyan’s program is that he wants Armenia to leave the EurAsEC. This suggests that sooner or later, under US control, he will demand Armenia’s withdrawal from the CSTO. Armenia’s exit from the EurAsEC is likely to be beneficial for Russia, since Armenia is an enclave surrounded by hostile states, with which it is difficult to engage in trade partnerships. But if the partnership between the Russian Federation and Armenia in the CSTO is liquidated, then cooperation with Armenia is completely uninteresting for us.
After this, Russia will eliminate the problem with Nagorno-Karabakh, which will be occupied by Azerbaijan.
Of course, it will be easier for NATO countries to communicate with Armenia through Georgia, which is hostile to us. Having lost Karabakh, Armenians may receive a visa-free regime in the EU.

Apparently your diplomats “work” the same way. Some threats are based on disinformation.

[Leonid Dymov]

A revolution is taking place in modern missile weapons. This means that military doctrine must change. Do we need a military base in Armenia if there is one in Crimea, if missiles are attacking ISIS bandits from the Caspian Sea, and hypersonic missiles of the Russian Federation are capable of wiping the United States off the face of the earth by flying through the South Pole? The United States has not yet created a military base even in friendly Georgia.

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Quote: Leonid Dymov

Do we need a military base in Armenia if there is one in Crimea, if missiles are attacking ISIS bandits from the Caspian Sea, and hypersonic missiles of the Russian Federation are capable of wiping the United States off the face of the earth by flying through the South Pole?

Strategist, you can’t say anything. It turns out that the base here was needed for the United States to attack.

[Lunt]

Another American bastard? The greyhound behaves too badly. And our Foreign Ministry doesn’t give a damn while there is an illegal seizure of power in a fraternal country. I am amazed at the softness and spinelessness of the authorities in Armenia.