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For a new operation in the Donbass? State Department Confirms Javelins Supply to Ukraine

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The US State Department confirmed that Javelin anti-tank missile systems had already been delivered to Ukraine, reports 24 channel with reference to Radio Liberty.


For a new operation in the Donbass? State Department Confirms Javelins Supply to Ukraine


They have already been sent
- The official representative of the State Department noted at the request of journalists, informs Radio Liberty. No other details were made public.

In addition, before the statement of the State Department, two more sources confirmed the information on the delivery of Javelin: one from Ukraine, the other from the US, but they wished to remain anonymous in this matter, because they did not have the authority to speak publicly on this topic.

As reported, in early March, the US State Department agreed in principle to supply Ukraine with anti-tank Javelin missile systems.

The agency reported that Ukraine had requested 210 missiles and 37 launchers from the USA with the expectation that two of them would be used for spare parts.

30 March it became known that US President Donald Trump had banned publicly speaking to American officials about his approval of the sale of Javelin missile systems and missiles to Ukraine.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox April 30 2018 16: 41
    +20
    “Dart” is certainly a very dangerous weapon. And it was just in time for the offensive in the Donbass ... it’s enough without any ATGMs .. I don’t think this will somehow change the balance of power. If that happens there, then I think this is closer to the end of next month. Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that? belay
    1. cniza
      cniza April 30 2018 16: 45
      +20
      For horses it’s like a mantra, the Javelins will give us, so we will win ...
      1. Thrall
        Thrall April 30 2018 17: 16
        +10
        Now, to give political weight to Petya, guards with the Javelins will hang around smile
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 33
          +11
          Quote: Thrall
          Now, to give political weight to Petya, guards with the Javelins will hang around

          wimps !!!
          1. The black
            The black April 30 2018 17: 40
            +7
            The dream of idiots came true ... I’m blowing another boiler ... more, in order to wean a kitten to spoil anywhere, it is necessary to dip in its stsaki repeatedly ..
          2. Thrall
            Thrall April 30 2018 17: 42
            +11
            smile
            On the right photo is the charging Point-U.
            In general, I will not believe that the Javelins are already APU until they appear on sale at Ukrainian online flea markets laughing
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 55
              +8
              Quote: Thrall
              On the right photo is the charging Point-U.

              And this is Anka the machine gunner
              1. K-50
                K-50 April 30 2018 18: 47
                +5
                Quote: LSA57
                And this is Anka the machine gunner

                Pancake!!! Yes, she can shoot from ZiS-2 directly from her hands, like from a pump-action! belay lol
                Such a burning hut will be turned around and the horse will be beaten in the forehead with one blow and generally it is better not to anger her. laughing
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 April 30 2018 20: 03
                  +4
                  Quote: K-50
                  Such a burning hut will be turned around and the horse will be beaten in the forehead with one blow and generally it is better not to anger her.

                  that's it.
                  but there are others
                2. konstantin68
                  konstantin68 1 May 2018 18: 20
                  0
                  Angry you, K-50, however! laughing
      2. Alber
        Alber April 30 2018 17: 27
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        For horses it’s like a mantra, the Javelins will give us, so we will win ...

        So it really will start soon ...
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 30 2018 18: 39
          +2
          And how will their Javelins help in the advance of our Tornado and Hurricane? Nothing! bully
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 16: 48
      +12
      Here is a video about changing the name of an operation from ATO to OOS. From 21 minutes he gives orders to the generals.
      1. himRa
        himRa April 30 2018 16: 57
        +4
        Through the phrase damned Muscovites! laughing
        And what does this mean in simple terms?
        Change format from ATO to OOS?
        the essence does not change, if I understand correctly, the use of the army against their own citizens or what?
        Explain, Lord ...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 16: 58
          +3
          From 21 minutes, listen to orders, and especially from 23 minutes.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 30 2018 17: 05
            +5
            Quote: Sith Lord
            From 21 minutes, listen to orders, and especially from 23 minutes

            Damn ... it's impossible to listen to it ...
            ... sydyl pydrozdilev ...

            (censorship)!!
          2. himRa
            himRa April 30 2018 17: 22
            +5
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            From 21 minutes, listen to orders, and especially from 23 minutes.

            Unfortunately, I don’t own ...
            I would like to know what gives Ukraine a change in the name of the operation first-hand ...
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 17: 41
              +11
              Movu also did not study like you. In Donetsk, the 3rd grade of school number 17, parents wrote a refusal to study Ukrainian. And it was 83 years old.

              The operation control is transferred from the SBU to the Ministry of Defense, with all that it implies. The seizure of property, the seizure of vehicles, searches without prosecutors, the holding of people without urgent military operations, and so on. He says a lot about Russia there. Listen there everything is clear even for those who do not know the Polish-Russian surzhik.
              I need to write a lot, but I need to finish the dashboard.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 59
                +2
                Quote: Sith Lord
                Listen there everything is clear even for those who do not know the Polish-Russian surzhik.

                I understand a maximum of one or two words out of 15. I can’t even catch the point
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina April 30 2018 20: 58
                  +3
                  Gray hi , campaign, we were declared war. winked
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: sabakina
                    campaign, we were declared war

                    bilin, and I'm sober wassat
                    Hi hi
                    1. sabakina
                      sabakina April 30 2018 21: 21
                      +3
                      Damn Clinton said ... it's not in the 5th, but in the 6th sonnet, but by the way ... I can pour it while I'm not under the table. wink
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 35
                        +2
                        Quote: sabakina
                        but by the way ... I can pour it while I'm not under the table.

                        Duc, always ready soldier drinks
            2. LSA57
              LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 41
              +7
              Quote: himRa
              Ukraine change the name of the operation first hand takkskat ..

              If I understand it, in the anti-terrorist operation under the constitution (on which they spat) the armed forces do not have the right to participate. now, the ATO has been canceled, we have been officially recognized as an achhressor, and now, by all laws, they are already in a WAR. not OPERATION
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 17: 48
                +6
                Moreover, from 22:42 listen there about the possible attacks of Russia and retaliatory measures.
                1. jaroff
                  jaroff April 30 2018 20: 28
                  +4
                  The direct text says that when the RF Armed Forces go on the offensive, go over to strategic defense in accordance with the approved plan.
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: zharyoff
                    The direct text says that when the RF Armed Forces go on the offensive, go over to strategic defense in accordance with the approved plan.

                    uhhhhhh, well now at least I’ll sleep peacefully ...
                    and then what month they threatened to capture Moscow right up to the Urals ...
              2. Antares
                Antares April 30 2018 19: 47
                +1
                Quote: LSA57
                in the anti-terrorist operation under the constitution (on which they spat) the armed forces do not have the right to participate.

                so at the beginning they said that it was necessary to use all the forces that were, even if legally they could not be touched, but in this way they saved the country. And now they put the legal base in order and give the military all rights. And ATOs can start at any moment in the liberated territories (similar to the CTO of the Russian Federation in the Caucasus) under the threat of terrorism.
                The new format makes it possible to use all the forces of the Armed Forces of the country to solve the tasks of national defense.
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 April 30 2018 20: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Antares
                  The new format makes it possible to use all the forces of the Armed Forces of the country to solve the tasks of national defense.

                  and what did he mutter about Russian interference there?
                2. LSA57
                  LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: Antares
                  so at the beginning they said that it was necessary to use all the forces that were, even if legally they could not be touched, but in this way they saved the country.

                  in a word, as always got out
            3. Normal ok
              Normal ok April 30 2018 17: 48
              +2
              Quote: himRa
              I would like to know what gives Ukraine a change in the name of the operation first-hand ...

              Not one of the first ... This means bringing the legal status of the operation in line with Ukrainian legislation. The main thing in the military sphere lies in the control plane - now the former ATO is led by the military and not by the SBU. Powers are redistributed in favor of the army. And that’s it. VOshnye gangs like "tomorrow will begin" - as they were an empty phrase, they will remain so.
            4. konstantin68
              konstantin68 1 May 2018 18: 25
              0
              Quote: himRa
              I would like to know what gives Ukraine a change in the name of the operation first-hand ...

              Well, like the military will "steer." And then de jure inconsistency, the anti-terrorist operation, should "specialists" conduct. And there is the army. Type against his people.
          3. LSA57
            LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 38
            +2
            Quote: Sith Lord
            From 21 minutes, listen to orders, and especially from 23 minutes.

            tried it. understood nothing. not trained in languages request
            psakushku was more pleasant to listen. translated
      2. Lelek
        Lelek April 30 2018 17: 05
        +8
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Here is a video about changing the name of the operation from ATO to OOS


        Hello, Sergey.
        Changed the so-called ATOs to the next stage of LDNR hilling up, they got powerful weapons from overseas guardians, probably got the go-ahead from the big club, caught the equipment and meat in the front end soon. Watch out, brothers. What is noteworthy is that he was excited about the Russian troops in the Donbass, and he was silent about his mercenaries in the ranks of the Armed Forces.

        Well, of course, as it is without Georgians. There are about 300 of them there with the leader Mamuka at the head.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 30 2018 17: 37
          +2
          Quote: Lelek
          Changed the so-called ATOs to the next stage of LDNR hilling up, they got powerful weapons from overseas guardians, probably got the go-ahead from the big club, caught the equipment and meat in the front end soon.

          For 2 years now, almost every week, someone writes something like this: "it will begin soon", "caught up with the equipment", etc. And, nothing happens. It should be embarrassing to post such an "analytics".
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 18: 51
            +4
            That's right, but this time they extended through the Russian aggression and the transition to a new form of operation. It is one thing when they frighten offensives and the supply of equipment, the second, when legally the operation is actually against Russia, they declare to remove Russian artillery and equipment from the Donbass and, if they defend the DPR and LPR, answer.
            1. Antares
              Antares April 30 2018 19: 50
              0
              Quote: Sith Lord
              It is one thing when they frighten offensives and the supply of equipment, the second, when legally the operation is actually against Russia, they declare to remove Russian artillery and equipment from the Donbass and, if they defend the DPR and LPR, answer.

              as far as I listened to Poroshenko’s speech, in the case of “aggravation” (exacerbations). There is no talk of any offensive. Defense and defense again.
              You can understand him. Partners have much more opportunities to influence the Russian Federation than all APUs. There are no words in the speech - to attack the Russian Federation, to fight with it on its territory and other things. Defend Ukraine everywhere.
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok April 30 2018 20: 46
              +1
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              That's right, but this time they extended through the Russian aggression and the transition to a new form of operation. It is one thing when they frighten offensives and the supply of equipment, the second, when legally the operation is actually against Russia, they declare to remove Russian artillery and equipment from the Donbass and, if they defend the DPR and LPR, answer.

              I started reading VO a lot of time before I logged in, and I logged in, even before all the garbage in 2013. So earlier it was interesting for me to read SERIOUS comments on special military-political topics and eyewitness accounts. What I see on VO now causes me at least sarcasm. This is a profanation of important topics and not covered by anything propaganda. In light of this, as an officer in the Soviet army and a man several times in the ATO zone (my company has service support in two cities), I spit reading modern analytics and vanging. He talked more than once with both former colleagues fighting there and with ordinary people. Reality, in relation to the picture on VO, has nothing in common. And if the people here are positioning themselves as objective and morally high, then why slide down to the level of the yellow press. But, if VO is just an infowave tool, let's close the topic of objectivity and professionalism.
              PySy. There will be no offensive APU. Raising this topic is only necessary to maintain the informational “noise” and to knock out a new wave of financing from the Russian budget.
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith April 30 2018 20: 55
                +6
                If you read VO carefully, my summaries and comments. It’s always all these years that the APU is not capable of advancing. Not by whom and on what. The maximum is the tactical operations of the company / battalion level and then without further development.

                They are not able to organize the training of officers, the preparation of equipment, the transfer and hidden accumulation of level troops — a brigade. They would have had experienced officers and soldiers, as well as equipment to collect across the 450 km front.

                Each time I write that my fears are not due to the offensive, but because of new provocations and shelling.

                So this time, they can hit with a point, for example, at their airport or drown the ship at sea, or maybe they will fire, our people will answer and then announce to the whole world that Russia doesn’t give a damn about UN standards and kills Ukrainians. tons of chlorine and again to blame to make the DNI and Russia. All these actions lead to mass casualties.
                1. Normal ok
                  Normal ok April 30 2018 21: 37
                  +3
                  [quote = Sith Lord] The Armed Forces of Ukraine are not capable of attacking [/ quote]
                  I absolutely agree.
                  [quote = Sith Lord] They are unable to organize the training of officers [/ quote]
                  I saw it grow.
                  [quote = Sith Lord] They are not able to organize ... the preparation of equipment, the transfer and the hidden accumulation of troops of the level - a brigade. [/ quote]
                  [quote = Lord of the Sith]
                  Absolutely agree. In modern realities, this is not physically possible.
                  [quote = Lord of the Sith] Every time I write that my fears are not because of the offensive, but because of new provocations and shelling. [/ quote]
                  Communicated with various military people in the Armed Forces, including with officers and with rank and file. The number of “provocations” (and what you call a provocation when everyone is sitting in the trenches waiting to be about to start) on this side is the same as on that side. For clarification, my classmates served in Afghanistan (recent years) and Africa (I do not want to identify myself), and so, an accidentally launched signal rocket can serve as a provocation. If you know what I'm talking about. This is a very subjective factor.
                  The political conclusion. Russia, in the person of LDNR, has the strongest lever of influence on the political alignment in Ukraine. And he actively uses this through the media space. The collective “West” is now really weak, it only builds up its former power, relaxing after winning the Cold War. And also uses the media format. Javelins, for example, are nothing more than a political gesture. In Ukraine there are quite normal ATGMs manufactured by Luch.
                  The conclusion is social. People on both sides are tired of this tension. Communicating with colleagues and their wives in Mariupol, I heard - who will win by the drum, the main thing is that normal life returns.
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 18
                +1
                Quote: Normal ok
                Raising this topic is only necessary to maintain the informational “noise” and to knock out a new wave of financing from the Russian budget.

                Well, and how can the Military Review website affect the financing of Moscow Region? Donations to collect from neighbors?
                1. Normal ok
                  Normal ok April 30 2018 21: 48
                  0
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Quote: Normal ok
                  Raising this topic is only necessary to maintain the informational “noise” and to knock out a new wave of financing from the Russian budget.

                  First, do not underestimate VO. “Whoever needs” read this site, it is noticeable. Secondly, the "schiza" should be massive))
                  Well, and how can the Military Review website affect the financing of Moscow Region? Donations to collect from neighbors?
    3. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 April 30 2018 16: 49
      +8
      Dmitry, in this situation, the main danger of Jewelin is Media, that is, media coverage of his deliveries, arrogant and open! am Get the return line! I believe that the GDP - hands for the supply of Syria, C 300 - are untied .... moreover, he has full moral right and the obligation to DO it! hi
      Quote: 210ox
      “Dart” is certainly a very dangerous weapon. And it was just in time for the offensive in the Donbass ... it’s enough without any ATGMs .. I don’t think this will somehow change the balance of power. If that happens there, then I think this is closer to the end of next month. Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that? belay
      1. Graduation
        Graduation April 30 2018 17: 00
        +5
        All the same, their VSUshniki will “blow” and drink. Yes, and they won’t make much of an advantage, the complacency of the ukrovnye. Soon we will hear about another fire in the warehouses of the APU ... yes
      2. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir April 30 2018 17: 00
        +15
        could not resist...

        Well, you certainly ... hi
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 April 30 2018 17: 44
        +5
        Quote: Hunter 2
        I believe that the GDP - hands for the supply of Syria, C 300 - untied ....

        they untied him right after the last blows of mattress covers with mattress covers
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 30 2018 17: 05
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      . And the fact that it was just in time for the offensive in the Donbass ...

      These complexes are not there yet, but at the Yavorov landfill near Lviv. With their help prepare calculations for future battles.
      Quote: 210ox
      Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that?

      But like this. When they arrive and do not count, you can always say that they took it apart ... But seriously, most likely they were taken for study, both by specialists and to create a training base ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 30 2018 21: 07
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        But seriously, most likely they were taken for study, as specialists,.

        Sergey, hi I hope you write about our specialists ... repeat
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 30 2018 22: 37
          0
          hi
          Quote: sabakina
          I hope you write about our specialists ...

          These already have them ...
    5. Wendigo
      Wendigo April 30 2018 17: 33
      +4
      Where is the news about the American “trampoline” conveyor?
      Yesterday, Brexton (the founder of Amazon) not only successfully tested his rocket for 6 times in a row, but now with his ready-made version of the "trampoline" and even the steps as he managed to land Musk.
      Why is there no news on this site?
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 30 2018 17: 44
        +8
        Quote: Wendigo
        Why is there no news on this site?

        Because the news about Ukraine, and not about masks and brextons. That's when there will be then the squirrel will be the whistle and trampolines.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 30 2018 17: 47
        +7
        Why is there no news on this site?
        Because that little "witness" Mask.
      3. Antares
        Antares April 30 2018 19: 52
        +1
        Quote: Wendigo
        Where is the news about the American “trampoline” conveyor?

        maybe it will be later .... Such news should usually be processed from the point of view of the Russian Federation, what does this mean for the country. It’s a pity only often in the direction of hatreds, and not common sense.
        From the point of view of all mankind, any progress is the general progress of the species.
    6. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 30 2018 17: 58
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      "Dart" is certainly a very dangerous weapon. And it was just in time for the offensive in the Donbass ... ATGM all sorts of different enough .. I do not think that this will somehow change the balance of power.If anything happens there, then I think it's closer to the end of next month. Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that? belay

      It is true how many Russian Javelins were delivered, history is silent, but something tells us that there are a lot of them and will be enough for every Ukrainian patriot ...... yes
    7. alexmach
      alexmach April 30 2018 18: 20
      +1
      Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that? belay

      This is probably from natural stupidity.
      And as for the fighting - as far as I understand the weather conditions there already allow them to carry out.
    8. papas-57
      papas-57 April 30 2018 18: 36
      +1
      "with the expectation that two of them will be used for spare parts." He took off the tongue. Justify for the uninitiated.
    9. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov April 30 2018 19: 41
      0
      Now you need an eye and an eye so that the warehouse does not "burn out" ..;)
    10. venik
      venik April 30 2018 21: 44
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Interestingly, a couple of complexes for ... spare parts. How's that?

      ========
      And this, as in the "bearded" joke about metal balls: "one broke, the second - lost" .... laughing
  2. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill April 30 2018 16: 41
    +9
    So and for some there "Zhaveliny"? What, the ATGM of old generations is not enough?
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 30 2018 16: 46
      +12
      Enough .. Only for Svidomo "Dart" like a mantra ..
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      So and for some there "Zhaveliny"? What, the ATGM of old generations is not enough?
    2. Masya masya
      Masya masya April 30 2018 16: 47
      +6
      for show-offs ... and show-offs are not cheap ... all the world ...
      1. LMN
        LMN April 30 2018 16: 50
        +4
        Quote: Masya Masya
        for show-offs ... and show-offs are not cheap ... all the world ...

        What are they? They still will not pay laughing
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya April 30 2018 16: 54
          +6
          debts?
          Only cowards pay them!

          and this is the most, the most ....
          1. LMN
            LMN April 30 2018 17: 08
            +4
            Quote: Masya Masya
            debts?
            Only cowards pay them!

            and this is the most, the most ....

            Really .. somehow I didn’t even think about cowards)
            Yes, and I constantly forget about the most .. thank you for reminding me periodically laughing
    3. figwam
      figwam April 30 2018 16: 50
      +6
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      So and for some there "Zhaveliny"? What, the ATGM of old generations is not enough?

      Military conflict goes to a new level. If you used to fight with weapons of the times of the USSR, now Javelins remove the restrictions.
      1. saigon
        saigon 1 May 2018 03: 38
        0
        It certainly is so one great and terrible Joe Avelin on 10 km of the front, he will change a lot.
    4. alexmach
      alexmach April 30 2018 18: 21
      0
      They said that, in principle, they did not have enough ATGMs. Strong on both sides.
  3. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible April 30 2018 16: 49
    +5
    I don’t understand the point either.
    There is not a great tank battle, so that the supply of these Javelins somehow affected the balance of power.
    I don’t think that this will somehow change the balance of power

    We must not forget how (by what and on what) the militias of the LPR began to fight.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 30 2018 17: 15
      +2
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      I don’t understand the point either.

      hi
      And what is incomprehensible will be thrashed by these "darts" at pumping stations, power plants, boiler houses. For ukronatsik in high, the process itself - pressed a button, flew, jerked, and there at least the grass did not grow. Well, for Kiev, prestige - a big boss for the "consumable meat of America" ​​and considers it an honor.
      1. Incomprehensible
        Incomprehensible April 30 2018 17: 29
        +3
        Quote: Lelek
        And what is incomprehensible will be thrashed by these "darts" at pumping stations, power plants

        Dear pleasure, I will tell you. Not for this supply these complexes.
        Bullshit all these statements about the notorious Javelin. They will not play roles. But!
        They (the Java) will be very useful to our military developers, and we will get them.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 25
          +1
          Quote: Incomprehensible
          They (the Java) will be very useful to our military developers, and we will get them.

          but I don’t doubt a gram that this dart has already been studied along and across.
          He’s been in the arsenal for several years. and there were always enough friends ready to sell everything to us laughing
    2. LMN
      LMN April 30 2018 17: 53
      +4
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      I don’t understand the point either.
      There is not a great tank battle, so that the supply of these Javelins somehow affected the balance of power.
      I don’t think that this will somehow change the balance of power

      We must not forget how (by what and on what) the militias of the LPR began to fight.

      Perhaps it is taken into account that after the start of the military operation, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will intervene in the matter. And at some stage our tank units will probably appear. In this case, the Ukrainians (read the USA) will have the opportunity to test the jewel in real conditions. And if you can hit several of our tanks, then how many videos and photos will appear in the world media fellow and how much happiness will Ukrainians fellow... I'm not talking about curly-haired colleagues from our resource
      1. japs
        japs April 30 2018 19: 01
        +3
        LMN "..... I'm not talking about curly-haired colleagues from our resource."

        Yes, do not go to the grandmother! This is stopudovo.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina April 30 2018 21: 13
        +1
        As far as I understand in this war, Russia does not have to enter tanks.
        1. LMN
          LMN 1 May 2018 13: 47
          +2
          Quote: sabakina
          As far as I understand in this war, Russia does not have to enter tanks.

          As an option. All should be a more real explanation than raising the spirits of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          I also think that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are unlikely to go further than the DPR and LPR if there is a conflict.
  4. Storming the Washington
    Storming the Washington April 30 2018 16: 49
    +8
    who does not ride he will not receive javelin
    1. LMN
      LMN April 30 2018 16: 52
      +4
      Quote: Storming the Washington
      who does not ride he will not receive javelin

      laughing
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 30 2018 18: 54
      0
      It, jumping, is probably difficult to induce.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 April 30 2018 21: 31
        +1
        Quote: Incvizitor
        It, jumping, is probably difficult to induce.

        if with a pan on his head, ok
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 30 2018 16: 57
    +5
    The stakes on Wunderwafle have never been justified. Rather, it is psychological pressure on the enemy ... No one has tested these Javelins in a real battle, and how much it will differ from the training ground - well, it always does. wassat
    1. bald
      bald April 30 2018 17: 31
      +4
      “... Do you know how the elite Scottish whiskey differs from our moonshine?” “Ponty, only ponte.” And they will figure it out if they trample and there are 37 spare parts. winked
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 April 30 2018 17: 53
      +3
      Jav is only good at video. He thought about the tank armada of the USSR .. when there is time and place to use anti-tank systems with such performance characteristics .. In a modern war .. calculation in line of sight is 1-1.5 km .. feed for ... starting from 14.5mm machine guns to a landmine from a tank ..
      And what is most interesting .. They have nothing more .. the rest is only from the air.
  6. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov April 30 2018 16: 57
    +13
    All indications are that in the near future two (at least) important events may coincide in the same time interval: the attack by IEDs in the Donbass and a powerful air and missile-bomb attack on military facilities and ATS infrastructure. Contrary to popular belief, the LDNR corps against the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to hold out for a day or two, three, no more, without significant and comprehensive support from outside. The situation in the SAR can be such that the blow will be dealt not only by the countries of the Western coalition, but also by Israel and this will be a crushing blow, at once annihilating the entire air defense / missile defense of the country even before the notorious S-300 appears, which in the future can contribute to ground operations in the territory of the ATS. It may also go to Iran. Such a doublet would be extremely undesirable for us. It is clear that Ukraine, like Israel, is fully coordinating its actions with the United States, here without illusions, but what this can lead to is a serious question.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber April 30 2018 17: 03
      +4
      I agree with you!)
      But, I think, in the General Staff, such a scenario has been worked out, otherwise, parasites sit there))
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov April 30 2018 17: 05
        +7
        Quote: Siberian barber
        I agree with you!)
        But, I think, in the General Staff, such a scenario has been worked out, otherwise, parasites sit there))

        The scenario, I am sure, in the General Staff is even in case of an attack by aliens, but that’s what it specifically suggests, what actions, this is an interesting and controversial question. Getting drawn into a serious conflict is not something we can easily pull. And, unfortunately, it is not we who owns the initiative, we are only reacting now, both tactically and, ultimately, strategically, in this we knowingly yield to the enemy.
        1. LMN
          LMN April 30 2018 18: 25
          +3
          Quote: Eduard Petrov
          Quote: Siberian barber
          I agree with you!)
          But, I think, in the General Staff, such a scenario has been worked out, otherwise, parasites sit there))

          The scenario, I am sure, in the General Staff is even in case of an attack by aliens, but that’s what it specifically suggests, what actions, this is an interesting and controversial question. Getting drawn into a serious conflict is not something we can easily pull. And, unfortunately, it is not we who owns the initiative, we are only reacting now, both tactically and, ultimately, strategically, in this we knowingly yield to the enemy.

          I also immediately thought about the second front. And the concern is clear. I agree with this.
          But I fundamentally disagree with the statement that we do not own the initiative.
          Just the latest events show that Russia still has certain plans and goals that it is silently and with dignity toward. Without any statements there every day and throwing ..
          Russia, in my opinion, is now making politics in the world. And the same Germany sees us as a future partner, not the United States. She doesn’t just see, she has already relied on Russia. Many will later “change hands”.
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 April 30 2018 17: 06
      +10
      Where do you get this "analytics" from? Did you have a bad dream? request You can confirm the facts, both of your conclusions ??? No.
      Are you in LDNR - do not climb out of the trenches or are you in Syria in the calculation of air defense? belay
      Or maybe the General Staff - do you know the plans ??? request
      1. Opera
        Opera April 30 2018 17: 33
        +4
        Katz always offered to give up! And long before all the events. The situation is certainly serious. And the initiative certainly does not come from us! But Russia is ready for these initiatives! An example of this is the “crushing blow” of more than a hundred missiles against Syria, some of which are now being prepared in Moscow. And this was not a blow to the carriers ... They will hesitate to initiate! And Israeli shooters from around the corner as well. If they are all so strong, and we are so weak, what do they all explain to us on our fingers ?! "When we will not be all yours, come and take it!" As for the Ukrainian non-brothers, it’s not the power of this Bandera, but each fighter from that side has to think very hard - what am I doing and where are I going ?! There will be no conversations later.
        We didn’t start this, but it looks like we are finishing up with you. Everyone should take it calmly. Russia does not start wars, it ends them.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS April 30 2018 17: 03
    +11
    It is necessary to spread leaflets in the Donbass. All Ukrainian soldiers who bring the Javelin missile systems and hand over to the hands of the LPR or DNR will receive $ 50 in cash.
    I think not all soldiers will raise a hand to shoot a one-room apartment on the outskirts of Kiev in a tank
  8. andrson
    andrson April 30 2018 17: 13
    0
    Yes ... For the "peace" in the Donbass and the Javelins it is not a pity. Well, Natsik will beg for the militia ..
  9. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 30 2018 17: 32
    0
    For a new operation in the Donbass?

    This is nothing more than a political gesture for Russia. This delivery will not change anything. In Ukraine, there are enough of their ATGMs.
  10. Seaflame
    Seaflame April 30 2018 17: 38
    +1
    Ukrainians are preparing for the World Cup in football ...
  11. Lerych
    Lerych April 30 2018 17: 40
    +2
    Poroshenko gathered from the "shreds" to restore the state? Now I read his appeal. Is there enough thread? At first he broke it, but now he grabbed the needle? Let him not prick his fingers.
  12. K-50
    K-50 April 30 2018 17: 41
    +2
    The campaign for Victory Day is blazing. sad
    Ghouls do not get human blood in any way. sad
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx April 30 2018 18: 04
      +2
      Rather, right after the holiday. And on the 9th there will be a provocation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with victims of civilians
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 30 2018 22: 38
      0
      Quote: K-50
      The campaign for Victory Day is blazing. sad
      Ghouls do not get human blood in any way. sad

      We forget for a beer that doesn’t "blaze"?
  13. izya top
    izya top April 30 2018 17: 57
    +5
    Prapora already set price?
  14. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov April 30 2018 18: 08
    0
    I think in the near future "Javelin" will be available to our experts. Bandera either sells or pro * bets. But God forbid our antidotes will have time to help LDNR.
    1. Lerych
      Lerych April 30 2018 18: 18
      0
      I’m very surprised that we don’t have a javelin. Do not underestimate our intelligence. It was only the British who could come up with such nonsense that the FSB wanted, but could not poison the violinists.%)
      1. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov April 30 2018 18: 51
        0
        I agree completely and completely, the question is whether there is an antidote from "Javelin" in LDNR. This is a concern.
  15. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 30 2018 18: 13
    0
    They will inspire a stupid rural ukromalchik about the fact that the Javelins extend their lifespan and add 80 points of health, youth and good luck to karma. And be sure to put such a boob into the cauldron, they are some gullible ones.
    Ukrainians give up weapons leave the ATO is not your war, you are all being prepared for scrap.
  16. K-50
    K-50 April 30 2018 18: 45
    0
    Ukrainians with a "dart" as with a phallic totem rush. wassat
  17. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 April 30 2018 19: 11
    0
    You look at Russia! Putinoids! Medicine doesn’t count? Is everything ok? Look at Russia!
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 1 May 2018 18: 38
      0
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      You look at Russia! Putinoids! Medicine doesn’t count? Is everything ok? Look at Russia!

      Is that you, humanoid, now why have you written? Are we discussing medicine?
  18. TOR2
    TOR2 April 30 2018 19: 29
    0
    As reported, in early March, the US State Department agreed in principle to supply Ukraine with anti-tank Javelin missile systems.

    "Floor lamps" for mounting on armored vehicles are interestingly ready.
  19. andron-30
    andron-30 April 30 2018 19: 31
    0
    that’s the whole end of the sysyu lyalya, there are the javelins, there’s an ATGM, WHO does anyone?
  20. Alex ..
    Alex .. April 30 2018 19: 47
    +1
    Soon the LDNR arsenal will replenish with the Javelins.
  21. Antares
    Antares April 30 2018 19: 58
    +4
    the Javelins themselves do little to decide. However, their supply is both symbolic (both US assistance) and necessary. (There are no similar ATGMs in Ukraine, but there are 2 generations)
    No one on the site remembered one detail.
    This is the first official supply of US weapons to Ukraine. Prior to that, the Obama bid was exclusively on non-lethal help (medicine, logistics, counter-battery radars, various equipment without weapons, etc.)
    And here is the first combat supply. Of course, it cannot be compared with the military commissariat. With the significance of the winds, too. However, a grain of things can be achieved by playing for a long time.
    1. LMN
      LMN April 30 2018 21: 08
      +3
      The chances are very small. Russia and Germany also play the "long" ..
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 30 2018 22: 40
      0
      Quote: Antares
      Prior to this, the Obama bid was exclusively on non-lethal help (

      That's why the significance of the "Javelins" = 0. The political component is important.
  22. Lerych
    Lerych April 30 2018 20: 57
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Petrov
    I agree completely and completely, the question is whether there is an antidote from "Javelin" in LDNR. This is a concern.

    There is an antidote. The first shot is a volley of Hurricane. Or other MLRS. It’s useless to play tanks there .. After three hours, the javelins will be lying around for free.
  23. sabakina
    sabakina April 30 2018 21: 38
    +1
    LSA57,
    So let's drink Sergey for the "Javelins" at the Moscow Research Institute! drinks
  24. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn April 30 2018 22: 17
    0
    Good news for Russian "collectors" of American weapons - they have recently "found" almost new "axes" in Syria, now there is the opportunity to "buy" more "darts" ?! It remains to "establish a fair auction price" and find the "seller" ... A DRINKED UKRAINIAN PRAPOR !? Oh, sorry, "drunk ensign" !? And then, our dill will think that we are going to buy their banners instead of "darts"? Ha ha ha ha !!! Happy Holidays TO ALL AND HEALTH!
  25. militia2
    militia2 April 30 2018 22: 17
    0
    Poroshenko will not rock the boat, but he will stink.
    Well, well, this Poroshenko left (himself, if they give, or help, it does not matter). And who is instead? What instead? After all, the Baltic nits are sitting on the western choke. Eastern Europe, in my opinion, is subsidized by the EU until 2020 (then it will be more interesting of course). What about Ukraine? Who will help her? Russia? And we have "No money, but you hold on" and will continue to continue? The problem cannot be solved in this way - it is set incorrectly.
  26. Sergey ippon
    Sergey ippon April 30 2018 22: 22
    0
    Here are the Americans scoundrels)
    Well nicho -we kaaak charge them a note of protest!
    let them wash! bully
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 1 May 2018 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Ippon
      Here are the Americans scoundrels)
      Well nicho -we kaaak charge them a note of protest!
      let them wash! bully

      It's too early. Charge the note of course. Which account I don’t remember simply: Ilovaiskaya was, Debaltsevskaya was, Izvarinskaya was ... It seems there were seven notes. Probably it's time to charge the Mariupol note. What do you think?
  27. st2st
    st2st 1 May 2018 06: 54
    +2
    Aw, people who are versed in this matter, explain to me, siroma, “Javelins,” is this a panacea for all ills? With their appearance in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will the cardinal balance of power change? Or, instantly, the shelling and sniper duel will stop?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2018 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: st2st
      Javelins, "is that a panacea for all ills?

      No .. this is a sign of “beloved wife”, well, at least “wife” thinks so.
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    1. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2018 13: 20
      0
      Quote: Ryszard Ewiak
      1) Before us is the collapse of the EU and NATO, and the return of Russia. Many countries of the former eastern bloc will leave the American sphere of influence and return to a military alliance with Russia (Daniel 11: 29a).

      ATP is not necessary .. all by yourself .. yourself ..
  29. Victoria-V
    Victoria-V 1 May 2018 19: 59
    0
    What are you writing about? Almost two months there is no supply of weapons to Donetsk. "Javelins" are toys? Chatter alone at kindergarten level ...
  30. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 1 May 2018 21: 37
    +1
    I wonder how long these miracle pieces will appear in LDN? Well, APU-ki can’t blow a couple of "left" ...
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