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Potinyan's Smotrinyan's Successful Success

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The famous Soviet song read “There is a beginning for a revolution, there is no end for a revolution”. And this can be fully attributed to the Armenian “velvet revolution”, which initially declared the resignation of Serzh Sargsyan as its main goal.




But after it was achieved, the revolutionaries did not at all curtail their protest actions and did not go home.

Instead, the "Protestants" set their sights on the occupation of the highest power heights of the republic, and now the main "velvet revolutionist" Nikol Pashinyan was officially approved as a candidate for the post of prime minister of Armenia.

“On the issue of the composition of the government, nothing concrete has been decided yet. I'm still just a candidate for premiere. But my first step will be the formation of guarantees for the conduct of legitimate, fair and fair elections, ”Interfax quotes Pashinyan as saying.

Note that this event was preceded by some "bride", arranged "velvet revolutionary" Russian lawmakers.

The delegation of Russian deputies and senates, which arrived in Yerevan on a special visit, met with its Armenian counterparts, including the leader of the Yelk Party, Pashinyan. Although it is obvious that it was the meeting with him that was the main task of the “deputy troops”.



A number of experts have long urged the Russian authorities not to repeat the “Ukrainian mistakes” and diversify their political contacts in Armenia. In principle, Moscow almost immediately took a detached position, making it clear that what is happening is the internal affairs of Armenia, in which it is not going to interfere.

Moreover, in recent days, Nikol Pashinyan, who has a reputation as a pro-Western politician and has even more pro-Western people in his circle, has seriously changed his rhetoric on the “Russian issue”, which, it must be admitted, has always occupied a prominent place in protest speeches in Armenia.

Potinyan's Smotrinyan's Successful Success


Pashinyan now constantly emphasizes that the ongoing process in Armenia has purely internal reasons, goals and significance, that he has no geopolitical connotation.

Now the leader of the “Protestants” is no longer against Armenia’s membership in the CSTO or the Eurasian Economic Union, but only proposes to discuss the existing problems with partners, in particular with Russia. Pashinyan assures that nothing threatens the interests of Russia in Armenia and in particular of the Russian military base in Armenian Gyumri even in case of a change of power.

He repeated what he said in recent days at rallies and press conferences, and he repeated it to the Russian parliamentarians.

“The meeting was successful <...> And we heard what he said that Russia was a priority for him, Eurasian economic cooperation, the CSTO, border protection by our border services, the deployment of the 205th brigade. In general, when it comes to foreign policy, it is a reference point towards Russia. This was stated to them, "- said RIA News Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Viktor Vodolatsky.

One can, of course, assume that Pashinyan is maneuvering in order to gain support or at least neutrality of Russia in the current political battle. And having won, he will not think to fulfill his obligations.

However, we must take into account the fact that Armenia needs Russia incomparably more than Armenia needs Russia. Actually, our country is the only guarantor of the security of this country, which is in a completely non-friendly environment. And no one else will give such guarantees.

And based only on this (even without considering economic, cultural and other components), the leadership of Armenia of any composition and any views will be forced to consider relations with Russia a priority. If it, of course, does not intend to purposefully ruin his country. Armenia is not Ukraine, and objectively it has nowhere to go.

At the same time, within the framework of the existing union, it can bargain, try to “extort” something, intrigue, and even try to blackmail. But - in the existing framework.

However, the problem of changing the geopolitical vector of the new government is not the only one.

Pashinyan clearly demonstrated that he is not going to give up the “people's democracy”, that is, the pressure of the revolutionary crowd acting on behalf of the whole people on the power structures.

Such “political mechanisms”, of course, having nothing in common with democracy, almost completely exclude the possibility of making weighted and thoughtful decisions.

However, Pashinyan, demonstrating the enviable capabilities of a political manipulator, uses the system of behind-the-scenes arrangements and deals with no less success than crowd pressure.

The political system of Armenia after the sudden departure of the long-term leader of the country comes at a loss close to collapse, which seriously facilitates the movement of the protest leader to the political Olympus.

Pashinyan himself considers the popular support received as the legal basis for his claims to the post of head of government, which has become the highest in the country in accordance with the constitutional amendments "under Serzh Sargsyan".

The Republican Party of Armenia, which still opposes the revolutionaries, headed by Karen Karapetyan, seems to be trying to reduce the heat of protest sentiments and ease the pressure of the “square”, and also try to recover from the “defeat” of the existing political system.

Strictly speaking, the likelihood that Pashinyan will head the government, temporary or permanent, is very high. In this case, the new leadership of Armenia will face the following task: using a considerable credit of national trust, to stabilize the situation, to stop the protests, directing their energy in a constructive direction.

To a large extent, this will depend on whether Pashinyan, who proved to be a clever intriguer and a charismatic leader, can be a responsible and balanced politician. Strictly speaking, the survival of the country depends on it.

As we know, in recent days, troops have been accumulating in the frontline zone of the NKR with the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan and creating a strike force.

25 April, the meeting of the presidents of Azerbaijan and Turkey was held in Ankara. In which, according to insider sources, Ilham Aliyev and Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed the “Karabakh issue” in the light of new political realities and reached certain agreements on it.



There is no doubt that in the event of an aggravation of the political crisis in Armenia and the occurrence of mass unrest, Baku will try again to solve the “Karabakh problem” by force.

In any case, the further destabilization of the situation in Armenia poses a serious threat to Nagorno-Karabakh and to peace in the South Caucasus.
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  1. Tatyana
    Tatyana 1 May 2018 04: 45
    +22
    I do not believe Pashinyan a penny!
    The rest let them believe him as they want.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 1 May 2018 06: 00
      +11
      Quote: Tatiana
      I do not believe Pashinyan a penny!
      The rest let them believe him as they want.

      Tatyana on the occasion of May 1 you. love Let the Armenians understand themselves, but think very hard
      25 April, the meeting of the presidents of Azerbaijan and Turkey was held in Ankara. In which, according to insider sources, Ilham Aliyev and Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed the “Karabakh issue” in the light of new political realities and reached certain agreements on it.
      The most such "sworn friends" of Armenia.
      And it is also very true said
      Armenia needs Russia incomparably more than Armenia needs Russia. Actually, our country is the only guarantor of the security of this country, which is in no way friendly environment. And no one else will give such guarantees

      If you have a head, let them think, but if you have a saucepan, you will get a second Ukraine. love hi
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 1 May 2018 06: 21
        +4
        Vladimir! Mutually happy holiday! hi
        Quote: vovanpain
        If you have a head, let them think, but if you have a saucepan, you will get a second Ukraine.
        The Armenians took into account the negative image of the Ukrainian Maidan. Therefore, instead of pots on their heads, Armenians have paper and cardboard crowns. Which is also very symbolic.
        Namely. Pontus from themselves Maidan Armenians-opposition writhes a lot, and on their heads at the bottom is just a “gilded” papier-mâché! Under the first “rain” their fabulous, fake crowned state will get wet!

        As the saying goes, the king is naked!
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets 1 May 2018 07: 09
          +4
          I share your pessimism only in one thing - in the wake of the Karabakh movement 30 years ago, the first president of Armenia, Levon Ter-Petrosyan, came to power. People at that time had completely Soviet thinking and after Ter-Petrosyan’s democratic elections lost interest in politics in the country, the harder the first Karabakh war was going on. As a result, the first president warmed up a sense of reality, starred and lost the confidence of the people. If Ter - Petrosyan won the free democratic elections in the first presidential elections, then he was reelected at the second presidential election. But this m killed him - he was without popular support and the Armenian military easily overthrew him with the support of representatives of the Karabakh clan. Armenians should not relax and be complacent - you need to put pressure on the power all the time, I would even say - spin the power so that it does not stiffen and people they didn’t turn into bonzes in it. I also agree with the author of the article - there are people around Pashinyan , much more westernized than himself. One of them is Edmon Marukyan, he showed himself to be a typical rat - when Pashinyan began his movement, he alone began a foot trip from the city of Gyumri to Yerevan, agitating people to join his movement. here, this Marukyan refused to support his leader, because Marukyan got into parliament from the list of the Elk parliamentary bloc, the leader of which is Pashinyan. It is unlikely that such a person will get a position in the new government. Republicans from the Sargsyan party inspire more respect from me than this bald shifter Marukyan, betraying his leader at a crucial time.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 1 May 2018 08: 02
            +7
            Quote: mamertinets
            Armenians should not relax

            Karen, your nickname essentially means "mercenary," do you really consider yourself a mercenary?
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets 1 May 2018 08: 21
              +3
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: mamertinets
              Armenians should not relax

              Karen, your nickname essentially means "mercenary," do you really consider yourself a mercenary?

              Why this Mamertin became a mercenary. Quite a cheap trick on your part. If you have something to say as a matter of essence of my comment, then write. Read stories about the gladiators of Ancient Rome and who the gladiators are - Mamertins.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 1 May 2018 08: 33
                +2
                Quote: mamertinets
                Why is this Mamertin mercenary

                Yes, so I remembered something about Messina smile
                God be with him!
                You tell me about something else, the Armenians and the Jews are essentially cousins ​​and the fate is almost the same, and that the Jews, the Armenians have large diasporas abroad! Well, for some reason, the Jewish diasporas are intensely lobbying for Israel and Israel is not very bad at all, so what is stopping Armenia?
                1. mamertinets
                  mamertinets 1 May 2018 09: 07
                  +2
                  I don’t have time to answer - I go to the rally.
                  1. 72jora72
                    72jora72 1 May 2018 10: 17
                    +14
                    I don’t have time to answer - I go to the rally.
                    Do not forget to take tires with you.
                    1. Yujanin
                      Yujanin 1 May 2018 18: 31
                      +3
                      Mamertinets (Karen)
                      I don’t have time to answer - I go to the rally.

                      72jora72 (Sergey)
                      Do not forget to take tires with you.

                      Rzhu in a voice laughing
                  2. Serg65
                    Serg65 1 May 2018 10: 42
                    +6
                    Quote: mamertinets
                    I don’t have time to answer - I go to the rally.

                    laughing Oh, I can't! 1 good
                    I’d like to hear from you in six months wink
                    1. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 1 May 2018 14: 17
                      +7
                      Quote: Serg65
                      Quote: mamertinets
                      I don’t have time to answer - I go to the rally.

                      laughing Oh, I can't! 1 good
                      I’d like to hear from you in six months wink

                      Well this is the same Karen as I Julius Caesar laughing A year ago, he was Razmik, half a year ago a rapier, and two months ago, a katana. repeat Well, this is God be with him. Here and this comrade will see in 3 months and listen to the dear Razmik Mamerintets. fellow hi
                  3. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 1 May 2018 18: 33
                    +6
                    Quote: mamertinets
                    i go to the rally

                    Are you coming, or are you coming?
                2. dSK
                  dSK 1 May 2018 09: 39
                  +6
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Armenians and Jews are essentially cousins and fate is almost the same

                  Armenia is the first country in which Christianity has become the state religion. A quarter of the “old” Jerusalem is occupied by the “Armenian” quarter. Such a long coexistence affected the character. Not for nothing called the "second" Jews. These are not Orthodox "Christians," they do not have "liturgical" communion with the Orthodox patriarchies.
                  The Armenian bishops of the "co-owner" of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher tried to take him under full control during the Turkish Empire. Once, before the Christian Easter, in anticipation of the “Consequence of the Holy Fire”, the Turks led the Jerusalem patriarch out of the temple. But how much the Armenian bishop did not pray in in Kulukvia, there was no result. The Jerusalem patriarch prayed on the street, at the entrance to the temple, and the "Holy Fire" struck a convoy next to him. This column with a crevice, the place of impact of the "Fire", is still preserved. So the Lord God "showed" who is who.
                  1. genisis
                    genisis 1 May 2018 12: 39
                    +2
                    Again, Orthodox "Christians" spoke. Then write correctly, the Armenians are not Greek "Christians."
                    1. dSK
                      dSK 1 May 2018 15: 31
                      +2
                      Quote: genisis
                      correctly

                      The mighty Russian language, built by Cyril and Methodius on the Gospel. "Our cause is right," however, correct, rightglory...
                      "Then the King will say to those right side Him: come, blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I hungered, and you gave me to eat; thirsty, and you made me drink; I was a wanderer, and you accepted Me; was naked, and you clothed me; was sick, and you visited me; was in prison and you came to me. Then the righteous will answer him: Lord! when did we see you hungry and fed you? or thirsty, and got drunk? when did we see you as a wanderer and accepted you? or naked and dressed? when did we see you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King will answer them: Verily I say unto you: since you did this to one of these smaller My brothers, you did this to Me. " (Matthew 25: 34-40)
                      Слева, at the "second coming" Jesus Christ will put those "goats" who did not. That's where "left income " lie, "go to left "...
                      1. genisis
                        genisis 1 May 2018 18: 03
                        +1
                        I understand very well what it means to praise God correctly. Both the Armenians consider themselves Orthodox, and the Greeks, whose church tradition the Russian church adopted. Therefore, to judge who is truly Orthodox is a thankless task. I personally am a myaphysite, I don’t feel discomfort in Russian churches. The parishioners of Russian churches that have been with me in Armenian churches also did not experience any inconvenience. It does not seem to me that theological contradictions are so deep between Armenians and Russians. We believe in God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit. We honor the Trinity.
          2. valton
            valton 3 May 2018 01: 51
            0
            Somewhere it was said: Armenians, take care of the Jews, after them you will be next. So the time has come.
          3. slaventi
            slaventi 3 May 2018 04: 47
            0
            Armenia, like other republics of the USSR, is part of the American unipolar world. That is, in US administration. Orange revolutions are a way to change power radically or not. Will Pashinyan be 2 Saakashvili or a passing figure for a more frostbitten candidate time will tell. Since the US set a goal the destruction of the Russian Federation. they create a belt of hostile states. Ukraine, Georgia The Baltic states are true in the Baltic countries there are no Maidans there is a slightly different form of government) since they are members of the EEC. But even to them it did not bring any benefit, they lost until Reti population during their stay in EES.Kazahstan included backing from RF.V any case, the current American Independence will not bring anything good in Armenia. And certainly you should not expect an increase in living standards.
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 1 May 2018 06: 04
      +8
      And what to trust him. He and his and his supporters have the only program of action - * to become in power *. The rest will follow. Undereducated but with ambitions, he lost the election, but there were sponsors and climbed through.
      Armenia is a small country, everyone knows everyone. Didn’t they know anything about * this *? Why didn’t they VOTE for him before, but now for the sake of ambition they risk their future and their children?
      1. dSK
        dSK 1 May 2018 10: 11
        +3
        Quote: Vasily50
        Now, for the sake of ambition, they risk their future and their children?
        The Ukrainian "Maidanyats" lived for months at the State Department "salary", then they became unnecessary, and they were sent to the ATO. In Armenia there are neither large plants, nor "Ukrainian" black earths, nor oil. Unemployment is complete, two weeks were enough for the “color revolution. The cost of NATO spending on the capture of another colony is miserable, compared with the“ former ”Yugoslavia.
    3. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 1 May 2018 16: 12
      +9
      New “earthquake” in Armenia

      For some reason, I remembered how my father, a simple Crimean electrician, without any orders from above, gathered in one day and went to Armenia to save and help in the late 80s, when a terrible earthquake struck there. Then he spoke very little about what he saw, took care of our psyche.
      But very old after that trip. Grief of people passed through his heart.

      Now in Armenia a new “earthquake” has struck, more terrible in its consequences. Its epicenter is at the US Embassy. And this time the great Soviet Union will not come to the rescue, will not rush.

      And the worst thing is that the Armenians themselves, rhythmically bouncing, shaking their homeland in a way that no element can. In this raging leap, they want nothing to hear. They still like this disaster.

      Poor, poor people ...
      Sergey Veselovsky
    4. Bad_santa
      Bad_santa 1 May 2018 17: 09
      +2
      And what to believe, an ordinary political prostitute. Says what they want to hear. I won’t be surprised if our boobies believe him
    5. vladasyar
      vladasyar 2 May 2018 14: 29
      +2
      Quote: Tatiana
      I do not believe Pashinyan a penny!
      The rest let them believe him as they want.

      I support, Clown no faith
  2. Hikaro
    Hikaro 1 May 2018 05: 37
    +6
    Yes, there is no special faith in him! But now it’s not worth it to escalate the situation. All the same, don’t tell, but the power in Armenia is very rotten if Pashinyan managed to bring it to its knees with such ease. Now the main thing is endurance and careful monitoring of the situation! His first steps and the emerging policy in the role of prime minister will immediately show which side he really is on!
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 1 May 2018 06: 32
      +9
      Quote: Hikaro
      All the same, don’t tell, but the power in Armenia is very rotten if Pashinyan managed to bring it to its knees with such ease.

      Power is rotten everywhere. Only manuals of the intelligence services of Washington and London remained unchanged for the coup in other countries. This is clearly seen in Armenia.
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 1 May 2018 05: 40
    +10
    The fact is that under the previous leadership of the war in NKR there was practically no territory kept, military equipment was coming from Russia and money from there.
    I think that now this will not go smoothly. The trouble is always the weakening of the country and aggravation, respectively, in the NKR is quite possible ....

    Power must be changed in elections, and not in the square, with the performances of happy castrolegol ...
    1. dSK
      dSK 1 May 2018 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: Olgovich
      performances of pan-head ...

      "Maidanut" corrupt politicians, their fate is not enviable - the revolution has always "devoured their children."
      "The sower of the wind will reap the storm." Chinese proverb.
      1. dSK
        dSK 2 May 2018 04: 36
        +1
        "Nikol Pashinyan intends to try again to become prime minister at a meeting of parliament May 8. "
        The second time they will not elect a prime minister - new parliamentary elections will be called. Connect the presidential "administrative resource" -
        Armen Vardanovich Sargsyan - President of the Republic of Armenia since April 9, 2018. From 1992 to 2000 he was the Ambassador of Armenia to Great Britain, Vatican, Luxembourg, Europe and the European Union. He was a citizen of Armenia and Great Britain at the same time with 2002 on 2011 Years.
        And they will “gain” the necessary number of votes for Pashinyan.
  4. Strashila
    Strashila 1 May 2018 06: 53
    +4
    Classic ... in what language are the banners written for that audience and the organizers work.
    1. garnik
      garnik 1 May 2018 07: 20
      +1
      Banners in general from another topic, not related to the "revolution".
      These are echoes after deliveries by Russia of so-called weapons. Azerbaijan. And the relations of Armenia to Russia are set out in history textbooks. What the Russian side agrees with. And those who are interested in breaking off relations between these countries recklessly paint hatred of everything Russian in their textbooks.
      1. mamertinets
        mamertinets 1 May 2018 07: 52
        +1
        Garnik - the Armenian people should understand that it is obliged to build a state where power is formed as a result of free democratic elections, then the country has hope for the country's prosperity. Azerbaijan has oil and it sells this resource and buys weapons. The Armenians do not have such a resource .This resource is democratic elections, a change of power. I have always been interested in the question - how did Rome turn from a small town in the center of Italy into a powerful world power? After reading dozens of books on the history of Rome, I came to the conclusion that Rome came to this in the easiest way - there was a democratic republic and a real separation of powers.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 1 May 2018 07: 55
          +8
          Quote: mamertinets
          Azerbaijan has oil and it sells this resource and buys weapons

          I see ...
          Quote: mamertinets
          The Armenians ... such a resource is democratic elections, a change of power ...

          , and they will also sell it, like oil, and buy weapons.
          Clear yes
          1. mamertinets
            mamertinets 1 May 2018 08: 23
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: mamertinets
            Azerbaijan has oil and it sells this resource and buys weapons

            I see ...
            Quote: mamertinets
            The Armenians ... such a resource is democratic elections, a change of power ...

            , and they will also sell it, like oil, and buy weapons.
            Clear yes

            Keep your sarcasm to yourself. In the modern world, all successful highly developed countries are democratic countries. There are no totalitarian countries among them.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 1 May 2018 08: 39
              +5
              Quote: mamertinets
              .In the modern world, all successful highly developed countries are democratic countries.

              Are these for example?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 1 May 2018 08: 57
                +3
                Arab Emirates probably.
              2. Serge Gorely
                Serge Gorely 1 May 2018 08: 57
                +8
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: mamertinets
                .In the modern world, all successful highly developed countries are democratic countries.

                Are these for example?

                The most indescribable country in the United States imposes a trick on suckers about democracy. The Ukrainians were led ....
                1. sapporo1959
                  sapporo1959 1 May 2018 21: 52
                  0
                  But I wonder why they are conducted on American fairy tales, but on Russian, well, no matter how! After all, we live like cheese in butter, everyone is happy, the patriots write that in general they don’t know where to put money, but Ukrainians and Armenians, well, not like in such a fabulous country like Russia? And why so !?
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 2 May 2018 14: 54
                    +6
                    That's why they are fairy tales. Russia has no fairy tales, free cheese, she never promised a freebie. But to feed freeloaders, including you, at the expense of Russian citizens, you are always welcome. And then, these freeloaders, again like you, were already taken for granted, and began to demand (like you for example) with a cry and cry freebies. Steam dust swallow. Toilets in Europe cleaned everything?
                    1. sapporo1959
                      sapporo1959 2 May 2018 23: 08
                      0
                      Well, so I asked, what are they? No, what would you play on a balalaika, they are not grateful to swallow dust and wash toilets ..? So do not understand?
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 3 May 2018 17: 40
                        +2
                        On the balalaika, the bear broke all the strings. Remember one thing, banderlogs or mankurts (as you like), when Russia will pursue ONLY the interests of its state and its citizens and put with the device on people like you, aboard the Eurases and other treaties, it will ban the transit of sanctioned goods, imports, etc. .d., will cease to racket freebie duties on oil, gas, etc., startle everything, startle first of all from your empty stomach. Then the condition will be one - on your knees and repent. No? The toilets of Europe are waiting for you.
            2. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 1 May 2018 08: 49
              +5
              Quote: mamertinets
              Keep your sarcasm

              I just developed your own thought.
              And the funny thing is that it will be so. Unfortunately.
            3. 72jora72
              72jora72 1 May 2018 10: 23
              +2
              There are no totalitarian countries among them.
              How dear you are, dear laughing , USA, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, the same China .......
            4. DV Coms
              DV Coms 1 May 2018 23: 02
              +4
              Quote: mamertinets
              .In the modern world, all successful highly developed countries are democratic countries. There are no totalitarian countries among them.

              The most totalitarian states are the USA and Great Britain. No democracy (power of the people) exists there and never existed.
        2. Strashila
          Strashila 1 May 2018 08: 12
          +3
          "Azerbaijan has oil and it sells this resource and buys weapons. Armenians do not have such a resource." ... Armenia does not have another important resource for access to the outside world ... Turkey, Iran, Azerbaijan ... with someone from they need to be friends, so as not to get isolation.
        3. Strashila
          Strashila 1 May 2018 08: 13
          +4
          "where power is formed as a result of free democratic elections" ... we observe in full how the Americans convey this experience.
          1. mamertinets
            mamertinets 1 May 2018 08: 27
            +1
            Quote: Strashila
            "where power is formed as a result of free democratic elections" ... we observe in full how the Americans convey this experience.

            And here the Americans - in order to come to such conclusions, you do not have to be seven spans in the forehead, if you have a different form of government - arrange it in your own country and do not meddle with us with your moralizing.
            1. Opera
              Opera 1 May 2018 08: 45
              +14
              Dear comrade, Mamertin, I would ask you not to forget that we are discussing on our own information resource what we want! If you take your terminology, namely "climb", then I have to admit that you climb! If you climb, then behave yourself!
            2. Serge Gorely
              Serge Gorely 1 May 2018 09: 03
              +8
              Quote: mamertinets
              Quote: Strashila
              "where power is formed as a result of free democratic elections" ... we observe in full how the Americans convey this experience.

              And here the Americans - in order to come to such conclusions, you do not have to be seven spans in the forehead, if you have a different form of government - arrange it in your own country and do not meddle with us with your moralizing.

              And here you are wrong. Americans of all who have been given at least one cent are taught and interfere in everything. Armenia is alive ONLY thanks to Russia. So, if you do not want moralizing, give up completely on Russian soldiers, money, weapons.
            3. Strashila
              Strashila 1 May 2018 11: 44
              +1
              Learn the history of your country ... teach very carefully.
              1. Bad_santa
                Bad_santa 1 May 2018 17: 16
                +3
                I have already spoken about this to this comrade. A complete sign of the Maidan of the brain: "we will decide everything, America does not intervene, this is not an orange revolution, we will live after the new government, who does not agree can choke on our blood." In short, we all went through
        4. Serg65
          Serg65 1 May 2018 08: 43
          +3
          Quote: mamertinets
          Such a resource is democratic elections, a change of power

          Well, let's say democracy is everything! How will democracy improve the economy in Armenia? What prevents Armenians from building their state?
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 1 May 2018 10: 28
            +5
            What prevents Armenians from building their state?
            Russian weapons, gas, oil, wheat .......
        5. garnik
          garnik 1 May 2018 09: 13
          0
          Mamertinets (Karen)

          I don’t know how to build a democratic state on the move. This has been going on for decades. Yes, elections can be held on democracy, but who will guarantee that the new power will not follow the path of the former leaders. Of course, we must strive for a policy independent of external factors so that we have not been afraid for more than 100 years the possibility of aggression on the part of enemies common to Russia. Like you are not lagging behind us, then I will give you to the wolves to eat, although these from the canine family have been grinning at Russia for more than 300 years.
          At the expense of Rome. I think democracy is one of the components of the prosperity of ancient Rome, but without an aggressive foreign policy there would be no Roman Empire.
          In the war of Ar.tsakh with the so-called Azerbaijan, the Armenians made a huge mistake by stopping the war at the request of Russia, without securing a guarantee of non-repetition of the escalation. Now Armenia is reaping the benefits of its merciful policies. They would not give a chance.
        6. stan200000
          stan200000 1 May 2018 11: 46
          +1
          This is necessary! "... a democratic republic and a real separation of powers ..." Does it remind anyone? USA, for example. To Rome did the people themselves attach themselves or forcibly attach them? Between 30 and 40% of the population of Rome in their heyday were slaves. The percentage of the inhabitants of the conquered territories annihilated and enslaved does not compare with the 2nd World War.
        7. Doliva63
          Doliva63 1 May 2018 19: 05
          +5
          Well yes. Nero, Caligula - the embodiment of democracy laughing
      2. Opera
        Opera 1 May 2018 08: 04
        +8
        Let me remind you, the revolution initially had one demand - the departure of Sargsyan! Taki, he left!))) Now the seizure of power, forgive me, of course, the arrival of the "popular" candidate with her friends! Taki almost came! Further naturally popular Armenian happiness! What is it that I think we don’t understand!
  5. Opera
    Opera 1 May 2018 07: 57
    +5
    An announcement of the continuation of the series “Maidan-Armenian Season 2”, the first episodes talk about the coming to power of Pashinyan, who temporarily decided to change his attitude towards Russia in general and the Russian language in particular! Further, an attentive viewer will find out when Pashinyan will shave off his beard and what is in his backpack ... The viewer will see new characters from among the advocates of true democracy! Really talented actors from a neighboring strong-friendly state are currently looking forward to the script according to rumors already approved at the Turkeyfilm Production Studio. Interesting viewing, gentlemen!
    1. Assyrian
      Assyrian 7 May 2018 20: 36
      0
      Quote: Oper
      Interesting viewing, gentlemen!

      The trouble is that we will have to be actors in this film, not spectators.
  6. uranium
    uranium 1 May 2018 08: 40
    +9
    In Armenia, special love for the Russian Federation after the arrival of Pashinyan will be loved even more laughing
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 May 2018 09: 00
      +8
      And you didn’t surprise anyone here! No one will be surprised if now the Armenians will post similar videos about Azerbaijanis! Moreover, I am even grateful to you. Spread more so that some of our internationalists become less virtuous! Go on ...
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 1 May 2018 09: 12
        +7
        Quote: Oper
        And you didn’t surprise anyone here! No one will be surprised if now the Armenians will post similar videos about Azerbaijanis! Moreover, I am even grateful to you. Spread more so that some of our internationalists become less virtuous! Go on ...

        Plus, definitely. There are no fraternal peoples. An example of the Bulgarian brothers Montenegrins Ukrainians should drastically reduce the population of idiots
    2. garnik
      garnik 1 May 2018 12: 07
      0
      Make you answer your sulfur. The site lacks the same unrestrained people in their statements. Forgot to indicate the reason for the indignation of people in 2016
      At your state level, Russia (the creator of the name of your people and state) is considered an occupier.
    3. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 1 May 2018 14: 24
      +3
      Quote: uran
      In Armenia, special love for the Russian Federation after the arrival of Pashinyan will be loved even more

      All the brothers-Armenians in the historical great territory. Will they go? Yes, here are the pipes! You can’t drive it out. Like pouring dirt like the first ones like washing loot in our country, so in the forefront. Now it’s probably time to go back and raise the great democratic country Armenia. Only yourself, without our soldiers and finances. And without a base and it weapons, and loans do not forgive. Everything. They have a spoon. Enough shit. Let them slurp. Drugan are already new. We are fine in our country and without them. And we'll see. Then. on the result. if you have enough mind and political will.
    4. beeper
      beeper 1 May 2018 21: 50
      +1
      Dzhan (after all, the flag is like Armenian flowers, but somehow “striped” - “Great Armenian”?) Uran, why did you add this kind of video with some stubborn stupid Russophobes from the Maidan Jews? yes , a priori ready to sell for cookies to anyone ?! smile
      Do you want to say that these unattractive marginals, with primitive "slogan thinking" of a xenophobic sense, represent the opinion of the entire Armenian people? winked Well you and naive ... or wink engaged?
      I have seen enough of these evil skakuas, they also "gill" for the State Department cookies, Kagbs on behalf of the people, but the people did not represent at all ... and the Russians (I see, not all, but many) also figured out who is hu, not so naive as they were in 2014, so change the training manual, uran, tell the curators of yerevan-obsolete negative YOU NEED TO WORK, Djanchik, YOU NEED smile !
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 2 May 2018 15: 01
        +2
        Unfortunately, these are exactly what set the mainstream. It is their whitish cries that are supported by the majority of the protesting herds.
  7. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 09: 09
    +6
    Quote: Vasily50
    And what to trust him. He and his and his supporters have the only program of action - * to become in power *. The rest will follow. Undereducated but with ambitions, he lost the election, but there were sponsors and climbed through.

    Pashinyan has already discussed everything with the Americans. By the way, the sponsor of the protests was found, the local oligarch. Everything goes according to the Ukrainian scenario. Of course, now the Armenians will prove to us that they are older than the Sumerians and their protest is more "constructive." If you want to get tinsel from Azerbaijanis and Turks, then they’ll hold the flag in their hands and democracy around their neck ...
    1. garnik
      garnik 1 May 2018 12: 16
      0
      Pashinyan discussed all issues with the Russian parliament as well. You have Turks with Azturkas for the horror story. States whose policies are contrary to the Russian. And what's next? The closer Russia is with Turkey, the further Armenia is, this is an axiom.
  8. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 09: 12
    +2
    Quote: uran
    In Armenia, special love for the Russian Federation after the arrival of Pashinyan will be loved even more

    --------------------------
    The main thing is that the Armenians speak and contradict themselves. They think that the USA will provide them with security and all that, they call us scammers. Well, let them try.
  9. Olezhek
    Olezhek 1 May 2018 09: 16
    +4


    25 April, the meeting of the presidents of Azerbaijan and Turkey was held in Ankara. In which, according to insider sources, Ilham Aliyev and Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed the “Karabakh issue” in the light of new political realities and reached certain agreements on it.


    Good luck!
    1. garnik
      garnik 1 May 2018 12: 26
      0
      Olezhek, and you are aware of when the events occurred which are captured in the photo. This is Russia's protest for the supply of weapons of the so-called Azerbaijan and in 2016 after April.
      Good luck to whom, your foes? winked
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 3 May 2018 10: 07
        +2
        This is a protest of Russia for


        I will be eternally grateful for the photo of the anti-American demonstration in Yerevan.
        1. Rolex
          Rolex 4 May 2018 08: 53
          0
          Excuse me, sir? What is the anti-American demonstration in Armenia? Are they fools cutting down the branch on which they are sitting, from where the State Department sends hundreds of millions of dollars, where did they shelter?
  10. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 09: 26
    +4
    Quote: Oper
    And you didn’t surprise anyone here! No one will be surprised if now the Armenians will post similar videos about Azerbaijanis! Moreover, I am even grateful to you. Spread more so that some of our internationalists become less virtuous! Go on ...

    ----------------------------------------
    Personally, I am against national hatred, although I don’t particularly believe in the friendship of peoples, because at the philistine level there is envy, jealousy and other negative things. For "internationalism" I can say one thing, there is a campaign of the people against the powers that be to the tune of the Americans, who are super profitable. And the people are being foolishly led, they think they will throw off the “pro-Putin” Sargsyan and put the pro-American Pashinyan and prosperity will immediately begin with a pay of 4000 euros as in Germany. Naive Karabakh donkeys (army expression meaning an alternative-minded person in the vicinity of Shikhovo).
    PS I saw in Baku in 1988 how this is done when Armenians were slaughtered like sheep on the street. Good luck, gentlemen, Armenians.
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 May 2018 10: 05
      +6
      Can I tell you that in those years the Russians generally fled from many of the former Soviet republics and this outcome did not last a year or two! It continues now. About ethnic hatred of a profitable USA in the territory of the former USSR, you are certainly right. Only here it is not necessary to simplify! Sheep is of course there, but not all! We cannot close our eyes, that somewhere these seeds of hatred fall into quite fertile soil! And the brotherhood and friendship of the peoples is a mutual concept, not a consumer one! Kindness to neighbors is of course in the Russian mentality! Russians at the genetic level feel their imperialism, scale! Russians do not need to assert themselves and prove their specialty! However, we should not ignore, and in many ways should already respond to outright neighborly rudeness! Imperial goodness is not forgiveness! We prohibit it for a long time yes, but we do not drive slowly! Note to the neighbors.
  11. Andrey591
    Andrey591 1 May 2018 10: 12
    +6
    Quote: Serge Gorely
    Armenia is alive ONLY thanks to Russia. So, if you do not want moralizing, give up completely on Russian soldiers, money, weapons.

    And leave Russia!
  12. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 10: 39
    +1
    Quote: Oper
    We cannot close our eyes, that somewhere these seeds of hatred fall into quite fertile soil! And the brotherhood and friendship of the peoples is a mutual concept, not a consumer one!

    ----------------------------------
    Well, how do we open our eyes? All corrupt officials are local, they will remove one rich Armenian, and put another rich Armenian. Nothing will change. And what does Russia have to do with it? We have an interest in Armenia as a region of our own security, on which we stand what is called. In this, in fact, all of our "imperialism" begins and on it it ends, we ensure our security and the security of Armenia. The Armenians built industry, but traders do not need industry.
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 May 2018 10: 55
      +3
      And what is our security in Armenia ?! There, dear, Armenian security!)) If they don’t want to understand this, then why should we ?! Do you personally need Karabakh ?! I don’t.) Absolutely. You probably misunderstood me. I'm just saying that we need to react less to all this controlled chaos. What is actually happening now and very good!
  13. NG inform
    NG inform 1 May 2018 10: 49
    +3
    It is foolish to count on some common sense among the Maidan workers. It seemed to me that Ukraine had long proved this.
    If during the coup (not revolution) the most miserable agitation is used, there is a complete lack of contact, then where can the idea come from that stupidly aggressive people will suddenly change and become smart and reasonable?
    There, the brainwashed completely, Russia will be expelled from Armenia, and when it becomes really bad, it will only provoke even greater hatred.
    In my opinion, you need to act quickly and unconventionally: publicly declare that for some reason we don’t support it, we consider this an American coup, where the Americans tricked the gullible public (listing the reasons), admit that Armenia is lost, and because for the impending sharp decline in living standards and war there will now be unsafe, therefore, de, we are preparing to close the base, introduce a visa regime and expel Armenian citizens, as Russia is already full of different refugees. And submit it willingly, but not immediately - leaving time to think and get scared. And at the same time prepare a counter plan for the development of the country, which would stop the American tentacles.
  14. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: Oper
    And what is our security in Armenia ?! There, dear, Armenian security!)) If they don’t want to understand this, then why should we ?! Do you personally need Karabakh ?! I don’t.) Absolutely.

    -----------------------------------------
    Do you want to roll back to Smolensk and Rostov, and then to Moscow in general? I personally do not need Karabakh, but it is not worth getting closer to American influence. You have a short-sighted position. The point is not the “need” or “unnecessaryness” of Karabakh, but the fact that the Armenians will begin to make an advanced detachment against us, under the pretext of building “democracy”.
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 May 2018 11: 41
      +4
      Look at the political map, my friend!)))) The Armenians will have to stand in line in the queue! Georgians will definitely not give up this place of honor! And even if you are so nervous for geopolitics, Azerbaijan is much closer to our neighbor! But in this case too, I urge you not to experience illusions! Yes, and the Georgians then correctly understood the deployment of a truly advanced detachment, more and more are buzzing in Ukraine! Yes there! And the Armenians, that the Armenians ... Now they will profit, rejoice and ... You will hear a lot of accusations in our direction! And if now the Mamertine’s accuses us even of VO that we are meddling in their affairs, then after democratic happiness the Mamertino’s will be in the forefront of the prosecutors — Russia has betrayed us !!! Russia did not intervene !!!! Are you betting?))))
  15. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 1 May 2018 11: 11
    +1
    All these protests began not yesterday, and not the day before yesterday. Moscow again spoiled everything! Accurately said Zadornov, a country of not frightened idiots! If a cotton grower or a rice grower reasoned like politicians in Moscow, like, I don’t interfere in the flows of muddy water flowing along the canal (!), It’s my job to plant and harvest the crops on time (!), Let the water itself think where it should flow (!) - then he would starve to death in the very first year of such speculations!
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 May 2018 11: 51
      +3
      Yeah, get involved! Such peoples as Georgians, Armenians, Bulgarians ... In general, they owe the Russian soldier his blood and hundreds of thousands who died in their existence !!! So what?! Urge to continue to spread rot Russian guys solely out of love for the ungrateful neighbors ?! The American Crimea and the Donbass are a direct threat to the national security of Russia! There everything will be completed to the end and as it should! Let the Armenians do what they want!
  16. Sedoy
    Sedoy 1 May 2018 11: 15
    +3
    * And we heard what he said that Russia was a priority for him
    ---------------
    blessed is he who believes ... :)
  17. stan200000
    stan200000 1 May 2018 11: 58
    +4
    I wonder where the Armenians will break in the event of a conflict (NKR, Azerbaijan, Turkey)? If Russia is so bad for them?
  18. genisis
    genisis 1 May 2018 12: 48
    +1
    I wonder where the author of the article came from insider! from the meeting of Aliyev and Erdogan? )))
    Last week, comments about the situation in Armenia are monotonous. Meanwhile, everything is developing in a calm direction. With the resignation of Sargsyan, the MO did not stop fulfilling its functions. And MO Artsakh precisely monitors the situation on the border of the republic and tracks the movements of the enemy. He will become Pashinyan, there will be early parliamentary elections, one of them will be taken by the new, permanent Prime Minister. State institutions will continue to work as before. Analogies with Ukraine are inappropriate. Armenia managed to avoid bloodshed and civil war, unlike Ukraine. We will observe the further development of events.
  19. Dashing
    Dashing 1 May 2018 13: 35
    +2
    All from May 1! As rightly noted today at one of the "small-town" rallies in Chelyabinsk: "There is a holiday, but there are no workers left." Armenia simply will not exist without Russia, both as a state and as a nation. They just cut everyone, as they already started in 1915. All these Armenian show-offs can lead to big trouble. By and large, the Armenian leaders, if they want to cheat for the people, it is urgent to ask to join Russia. Until their remnants became subjects of the dazzling Porta. Russia, however, cannot intervene in this “squiggle”. “The gut is thin,” as my grandmother, an old Cossack, used to say.
  20. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 1 May 2018 14: 19
    +3
    Did they start scaring Armenia for Karabakh again? Say: "There is no doubt that they say Azerbaijan will attack"? ... And you are the Dzhereliyevsky psychic? Who are you to decide this for Azerbaijan? Now, those who doubted, it should be clear that Karabakh is an artificially inflated and manageable problem in order to hold both Armenia and Azerbaijan for some bodies. Moreover, these manipulators did not give a damn that thousands of civilians were killed in the most brutal way, cities, villages, and industry, mainly Azerbaijan, were destroyed. All for what? Behind this, so that people like Dzherelievsky and many more other provocateurs sit and scare Karabakh, as if in turn, with the sword of Damocles, then Azerbaijan, then Armenia. A very primitive game, but very effective (because of the stupid ambitions and shortsightedness of the Armenians), who were the first to peck at idiots at Karabakh’s bogey, thrown by provocateurs and agents, plunging both peoples with their territorial claims into the abyss of destructive and endless war and dependence .
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 May 2018 20: 04
      +2
      Azerbaijan has been preparing for many years, one day, to return Karabakh. And that day will come, sooner or later.
  21. Serhiodjan
    Serhiodjan 1 May 2018 18: 44
    +4
    There was Seryoga became Kolyan, I am calm for the Armenians!
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 1 May 2018 19: 34
    +1
    all to the fact that very soon Armenia will cease to exist as a state
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 May 2018 20: 05
      +1
      Will everyone move to Russia?
  23. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 1 May 2018 20: 41
    0
    Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians living in Poland, Latvia and Lithuania hate Russians. However, Poles, Latvians and Lithuanians living in Russia are the most law-abiding people. There are more problems with Muslims of Russia. I am convinced that the Armenian diaspora is much more loyal to Russia than the Armenians of Armenia. I am convinced that the Armenian diaspora of the Russian Federation will educate its fellow countrymen from Armenia, who have been subjected to the Maidan burn-out in the Ukrainian manner.
  24. beeper
    beeper 1 May 2018 22: 55
    +3
    Washington’s subversive work has been carried out in Armenia for several years now (the embassy’s hyperstate in Yerevan allows the American "friends of the Armenian people" to cover neighboring countries as well, the priority Russian and Iranian directions), so there’s nothing to be surprised at ...
    The alarming “bells and whistles” were very much remembered, in every possible way Russophobically inflated (in the media of disinformation), an anti-Russian provocation with the shooting (allegedly by a Russian soldier) of a sleeping Armenian family in the vicinity of Gyumri, and also, after some time, the murder of a Russian soldier with the same military base ...
    Now the State Department considered that the Armenian "peach" is quite ripe for the final "Maidan"?
    Yes, and offended (pro-American Syrian Kurds) Turkomans will be given a comforting "bone" in the form of Karabakh, because the Yankees need not "the happiness of the Armenian people", but "Armenia-AntiRussia"? Anglo-Saxons know how to sow discord-Armenia Karabakh will lose due to the machinations of Washington and its corrupt Natsiks, but will the Armenian “maydaunas” blame Russia for everything?
    Threat In the topic ... I don’t know how true this is, but I could meet on the web the data of polls by Japanese schoolchildren about the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as if more than half of the young jumps believed that the Soviet Union used atomic weapons, and the United States fought on the side of Japan ? winked
  25. dSK
    dSK 2 May 2018 04: 59
    0
    genisis,
    Orthodox patriarchies: Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, Russian (Moscow Patriarchate), Georgian, Serbian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Cyprus, Hellas (Greek), Albanian, Polish, Czech lands and Slovakia, the Orthodox Church in America - perform joint liturgies.
    Before the relative’s wedding, her husband, an Armenian, passed the rite of Orthodox “baptism”. hi
  26. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 2 May 2018 14: 11
    +1
    [quote = Yujanin] [quote] Mamertian (Karen)
    I do not have time for an answer - I go to the rally. [/ Quote]
    [quote] 72jora72 (Sergey)

    Do not forget to take tires with you. [/ Quote]
    Rzhu in a voice laughing[/

    I am with you.
  27. Rolex
    Rolex 2 May 2018 19: 23
    +2
    Quote: dsk
    Armenia is the first country in which Christianity has become the state religion.


    All these are fairy tales of Armenians and nothing more! Armenian impudence and lies are not grounds for such allegations!

    As they say, the cornerstone of the Armenian mythologized history is the assertion of Armenia as the first country in the world to adopt Christianity in 301 as the state religion. However, science has long known that at the end of the II century, i.e. more than a century before the Armenians, Christianity became the official religion in the Aramaic-speaking kingdom of Edessa (Osroen).
    In 165, King of Edessa Abgar Bar Manu (Abgar V or Manu VIII) converted to Christianity, as he was convinced by a Palestinian missionary, St. Fadey (Addai), (Cheetham, Samuel, “A History of the Christian Church During the First Six Centuries” , Macmillan), and his successor on the royal throne, Abgar VIII, turned Christianity into the state religion of Osroen (Lockyer, Herbert, “All the Apostles of the Bible”, Zondervan (1988), p. 260.). However, some sources write that this was done by Abgar IX (Adshead, Samuel Adrian Miles, “China in World History”, Macmillan (2000), p. 27.), which also laid the foundations of Christian poetry.

    In 1905, the German historian and theologian Adolf von Harnack wrote: “... there is no doubt that even before 190 Christianity was actively spreading throughout Edessa and its surrounding areas, and (soon after 201 or even earlier) the royal court also adopted the church ( i.e., Christianity) ”(Adolph von Harnack,“ The Expansion of Christianity in the First Three Centuries ”, Williams & Norgate (1905), p. 293.). Irfan Shahid writes about Abgar VIII as the first ruler of the Middle East state, who converted to Christianity. (Shahid, Irfan, Rome and the Arabs: A Prolegomenon to the Study of Byzantium and the Arabs, Dumbarton Oaks Trustees for Harvard University (1984), p. 96.).

    And secondly, what state are we talking about? Was Armenia sovereign? ))) By whose decision was Christianity adopted by the state religion of Armenia? Could the Arshakid (that is, not Armenian by origin) ruler Trdat III (Tirisat), appointed by Rome as his puppet, independently make "state decisions" for the Armenian population under the influence of the Roman Empire?
    It is clear that the date "301 year" is sucked out of a finger. Roman puppets - "Armenian" arshakids, could only accept Christianity after the emperor Constantine and Licinius signed the Edict of Milan, allowing freedom of religion in Rome and in its territories - including in Armenia. That is, after 313 years.

    So tell all these tales to little Anushka from the next entrance.

    The first state .... there is no macaw, also write that Jesus was also created by the Armenians. Ugh!

    PS. And yet ...... It is not clear how the first Christians can be better from the later converts to the Christian faith? But on this occasion, even in the Christian Gospel it is said that "the first will be the last, and the last the first." So do not star!
    1. garnik
      garnik 2 May 2018 21: 46
      0
      However, science has long known that at the end of the II century, i.e. More than a century before the Armenians, Christianity became the official religion in the Aramaic-speaking kingdom of Edessa (Osroen).


      Built up
      132 BC e. - 244


      Kingdom of Edes, also of Orroensk or Osroensk [1]; Osroen (dr. Greek Ὀσροήνη), - a state that existed in the western, pre-Euphrates region of Mesopotamia in 132 BC. e. - 244, populated mainly by Syrian peoples (mainly Assyrians), speaking Aramaic, as well as with a significant Armenian population, which was concentrated mainly in the north of the kingdom, in its capital - Edessa.
      In the 1st century AD, Osroen was part of Greater Armenia. And the Armenians used Aramaic and Greek writing, before the adoption of the alphabet of Mesrop Mashtots.
      According to the Armenian historian Movses Khorenatsi, Abgar was the son of Arsham - the son of Artashes, brother of Tigran II the Great. Some idiots seek Arsham as king of Armenia.



      It is clear that the date "301 year" is sucked out of a finger. Roman puppets - "Armenian" arshakids, could only accept Christianity after the emperor Constantine and Licinius signed the Edict of Milan, allowing freedom of religion in Rome and in its territories - including in Armenia. That is, after 313 years.

      Eusebius of Caesarea attests to that. that Emperor Maximin (305-313) declared war on the Armenians. those who have long been Rome’s friends and allies. Moreover, zealous Christians, this God-wrestler tried to force idols and demons to be sacrificed and thereby made them enemies and instead of allies enemies ... He himself, together with his troops, failed in the war with Armenians "(IX. 8,2,4). Maximin attacked Armenia in the last days of his life, in 312/313.
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  29. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 2 May 2018 22: 08
    +1
    Quote: Rolex
    Quote: dsk
    Armenia is the first country in which Christianity has become the state religion.


    All these are fairy tales of Armenians and nothing more! Armenian impudence and lies are not grounds for such allegations!

    As they say, the cornerstone of the Armenian mythologized history is the assertion of Armenia as the first country in the world to adopt Christianity in 301 as the state religion. However, science has long known that at the end of the II century, i.e. more than a century before the Armenians, Christianity became the official religion in the Aramaic-speaking kingdom of Edessa (Osroen).
    In 165, King of Edessa Abgar Bar Manu (Abgar V or Manu VIII) converted to Christianity, as he was convinced by a Palestinian missionary, St. Fadey (Addai), (Cheetham, Samuel, “A History of the Christian Church During the First Six Centuries” , Macmillan), and his successor on the royal throne, Abgar VIII, turned Christianity into the state religion of Osroen (Lockyer, Herbert, “All the Apostles of the Bible”, Zondervan (1988), p. 260.). However, some sources write that this was done by Abgar IX (Adshead, Samuel Adrian Miles, “China in World History”, Macmillan (2000), p. 27.), which also laid the foundations of Christian poetry.

    In 1905, the German historian and theologian Adolf von Harnack wrote: “... there is no doubt that even before 190 Christianity was actively spreading throughout Edessa and its surrounding areas, and (soon after 201 or even earlier) the royal court also adopted the church ( i.e., Christianity) ”(Adolph von Harnack,“ The Expansion of Christianity in the First Three Centuries ”, Williams & Norgate (1905), p. 293.). Irfan Shahid writes about Abgar VIII as the first ruler of the Middle East state, who converted to Christianity. (Shahid, Irfan, Rome and the Arabs: A Prolegomenon to the Study of Byzantium and the Arabs, Dumbarton Oaks Trustees for Harvard University (1984), p. 96.).

    And secondly, what state are we talking about? Was Armenia sovereign? ))) By whose decision was Christianity adopted by the state religion of Armenia? Could the Arshakid (that is, not Armenian by origin) ruler Trdat III (Tirisat), appointed by Rome as his puppet, independently make "state decisions" for the Armenian population under the influence of the Roman Empire?
    It is clear that the date "301 year" is sucked out of a finger. Roman puppets - "Armenian" arshakids, could only accept Christianity after the emperor Constantine and Licinius signed the Edict of Milan, allowing freedom of religion in Rome and in its territories - including in Armenia. That is, after 313 years.

    So tell all these tales to little Anushka from the next entrance.

    The first state .... there is no macaw, also write that Jesus was also created by the Armenians. Ugh!

    PS. And yet ...... It is not clear how the first Christians can be better from the later converts to the Christian faith? But on this occasion, even in the Christian Gospel it is said that "the first will be the last, and the last the first." So do not star!

    Are you kidding, but the Armenians seriously stated this laughing This is a clinic.


  30. Rolex
    Rolex 2 May 2018 22: 37
    +2
    Quote: Oper
    No one will be surprised if now the Armenians will post similar videos about Azerbaijanis!


    I don’t know about similar videos by Azerbaijanis, but today's reality is that Russians in Azerbaijan are the second largest ethnic group in Azerbaijan and one of the largest Russian diasporas outside of modern Russia.
    Since May 1993, the officially registered Russian community of Azerbaijan has been operating in the country, and the chairman of the community, Mikhail Zabelin, has been a member of the Milli Majlis of Azerbaijan since 2000.
    There are purely Russian villages in Ismayilli (village of Ivanovka), Khachmaz, as well as in Kedabek (village of Slavyanka, Gorelsk and Novoivanovka), Jalilabad and Goranboy regions of Azerbaijan.

    At present, in Azerbaijan, in more than 300 (!) Secondary schools across the country, 18 local universities and 38 secondary special educational institutions, teaching is conducted in Russian. On June 13, 2000, Baku Slavic University was founded in Baku on the basis of the Azerbaijan Pedagogical Institute of Russian Language and Literature named after M.F. Akhundov. The Association of Teachers of Russian-speaking educational institutions of Azerbaijan is functioning. On November 24, 2009, the first in the post-Soviet space "House of the Russian Book" was opened, the opening ceremony of which was attended by the head of the Presidential Administration of Russia Sergey Naryshkin.
    In Baku, the Azerbaijan State Russian Drama Theater named after Samed Vurgun.
    In 1994, the Association of Cossacks of Azerbaijan was registered.
    In 1996, in order to establish closer ties with Russian state and public organizations related to the support of compatriots abroad, a Coordinating Council of public organizations of Russian compatriots in Azerbaijan was created. In 2009, the Russian Information and Cultural Center was founded.

    There are five Orthodox churches in Azerbaijan subordinate to the Baku and Caspian dioceses of the Russian Orthodox Church: three in Baku, one in Ganja, and one in Khachmas. In Baku, Sumgait and Shemakha, Molokan communities are officially registered.

    PS. In Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, no one puts a monument to Hitler’s dogs; prospectuses, squares, etc. are not named after Hitler’s sixes.

    PPP. Unlike some people, Azerbaijan does not speculate and do not juggle epithets with “allies”, “brothers”, “faithful”, etc., although in reality all these words are dust on the eyes. It is what it is! And what is, you have already read above.
  31. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 3 May 2018 00: 59
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    However, science has long known that at the end of the II century, i.e. More than a century before the Armenians, Christianity became the official religion in the Aramaic-speaking kingdom of Edessa (Osroen).


    Built up
    132 BC e. - 244


    Kingdom of Edes, also of Orroensk or Osroensk [1]; Osroen (dr. Greek Ὀσροήνη), - a state that existed in the western, pre-Euphrates region of Mesopotamia in 132 BC. e. - 244, populated mainly by Syrian peoples (mainly Assyrians), speaking Aramaic, as well as with a significant Armenian population, which was concentrated mainly in the north of the kingdom, in its capital - Edessa.
    In the 1st century AD, Osroen was part of Greater Armenia. And the Armenians used Aramaic and Greek writing, before the adoption of the alphabet of Mesrop Mashtots.
    According to the Armenian historian Movses Khorenatsi, Abgar was the son of Arsham - the son of Artashes, brother of Tigran II the Great. Some idiots seek Arsham as king of Armenia.



    It is clear that the date "301 year" is sucked out of a finger. Roman puppets - "Armenian" arshakids, could only accept Christianity after the emperor Constantine and Licinius signed the Edict of Milan, allowing freedom of religion in Rome and in its territories - including in Armenia. That is, after 313 years.

    Eusebius of Caesarea attests to that. that Emperor Maximin (305-313) declared war on the Armenians. those who have long been Rome’s friends and allies. Moreover, zealous Christians, this God-wrestler tried to force idols and demons to be sacrificed and thereby made them enemies and instead of allies enemies ... He himself, together with his troops, failed in the war with Armenians "(IX. 8,2,4). Maximin attacked Armenia in the last days of his life, in 312/313.


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    This Arab kingdom arose in the northwestern part of Mesopotamia after the collapse of the Seleucid state. It was founded by the rulers of the Orroi tribe (osroi). Its capital was the city of Edessa. Almost all the time of its existence, Osroen was dependent either on Rome or on Parthia.

    In Osroen, for the first time in world history, Christianity was recognized as the state religion.

    http://pravitelimira.ru/land/lando/osroena.php
  32. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 3 May 2018 01: 44
    +2
    Quote: Olgovich
    The fact is that under the previous leadership of the war in NKR there was practically no territory kept, military equipment was coming from Russia and money from there.
    I think that now this will not go smoothly. The trouble is always the weakening of the country and aggravation, respectively, in the NKR is quite possible ....

    Power must be changed in elections, and not in the square, with the performances of happy castrolegol ...

    "NKR", and what kind of education is this? You somehow regretfully declare that this poor education with the Armenian population in the best of times, 100 thousand people (a couple of micro-districts) and not recognized by anyone, can be returned by Azerbaijan. There is no "NKR", but there are occupying Armenian forces on the territory of Azerbaijan, and the territory of the purely Azerbaijani-populated areas of the occupied invaders (understandably with whose help) is larger than the territory of the former Nagorno-Karabakh autonomy. So the problem is not only in Nagorno-Karabakh (NK) itself, which, incidentally, has no territorial connection with the territory of Armenia itself, it is separated from Armenia by the Lachin and Kelbajar regions of Azerbaijan captured by the Armenians. The Azerbaijani population there, as well as in the remaining 5 purely Azerbaijani-populated areas, was partially destroyed by the Armenians, the rest were expelled. That is, NK is essentially inside Azerbaijan, without a border with Armenia. That is, in fact, you are proposing directly so, without fancy, bargaining (with elements of blackmail by Armenians) at the expense of Azerbaijan, its territory? They say we won’t give weapons, then Azerbaijan will return its unfortunate refugees, restore, equip its cities, villages ... Wow approach. Real politics) Any (Armenian) whim at someone else's (Azerbaijani) account. If only they didn’t jump off the hook. That's what reminded me) One with a gang seems to have hijacked a plane to Israel in the 90s, by the way an Armenian was by the name of Yakshiyants. So, he tried to bribe the Israelis to be released there. $ 1 million offered to Israel! The Israelis were dumbfounded by the fact that he would have thought that it was even possible. Ghouls. It’s just a type of thinking so soviet, inherent in many in the CIS. ...
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  34. Rolex
    Rolex 3 May 2018 08: 16
    +4
    Quote: garnik
    The closer Russia is with Turkey, the further Armenia is, this is an axiom.


    Garnik, Armenia overestimates its significance for Russia, trying to blackmail Moscow by cooling relations. And that will be? Well, what will happen? The farther Armenia is from Russia, the easier it is to breathe ... mountains off your shoulders! On another branch of the resource, I asked a question to you and in your person your fellow tribesman, but did not receive a clear answer from you. Like geopolitics .....
    Now I repeat the question: Why should Russia give up its interests for the sake of the Armenians? What frigid Armenia in all aspects gives Russia in return? You have no money! The economy is wretched! External debt is equal to Armenia’s GDP! You do not suffer from egocentrism and narcissism! Well, how can you surprise your partner, huh? Russia is just a cash cow for you .... ara give, ara give, ara give .... ara loans, ara discounts, ara, ara, ara .....
    I even remember the pan-Armenian howl in the Armenian media when they just got out the conversation that the CSTO countries should participate in the Syrian operation of Russia. Mlyn, there was horror ..... Armenian horror! Ara why should we suffer because of Russia ?! About such a plan was your howl.
    Turkey ...... 80 millionth and self-sufficient country, that is, 80 millionth market where you can sell Russian goods and vice versa. After all, the economy determines the politics and pulse of society, and not vice versa, as you have in the DREFNey of Armenia. Indeed, the army does not sit in the Kremlin either .... oh, sorry, fools, to go against your economic interests.
    I ask you to answer a trivial question ....... what are you interested in for Russia? Well, surprise the people with the rationale for their bias.
  35. Rolex
    Rolex 3 May 2018 08: 46
    +1
    Quote: Scorpio05
    You are joking, but the Armenians seriously stated this. This is a clinic.


    Alas sir, alas! But even medicine is powerless here!
    Jesus is Armenian! The British are Armenians! Leonardo da Vinci is an Armenian! Basques-Armenians! Every 25th Chinese-Armenian! Princess Diana is Armenian! Armenians baptized Russia! Noah Armenian! Even Santa Claus is an Armenian (who would doubt it!) lol !

    Facespalm! drinks
    1. skif02
      4 May 2018 00: 09
      +2
      D, Artanyan was forgotten, and of course - Hamlet - the great sons of the Armenian people.
      1. Rolex
        Rolex 4 May 2018 09: 36
        +1
        Do not blame me, sir! Given that all around are Armenians and all ancient Armenian, I get confused. recourse

        I also forgot about the ancient Armenian city of Pyongyang, I also forgot about the Armenian reed keyboard and pneumatic musical instrument-button accordion, the ancient Armenian smoking device, hookah, etc. etc.

        And in general, to be honest, at the end of the name of our planet, only one letter "n" is missing, if you add it, you get a completely "Armenian planet". Why not, especially since their scientists say that the first person was an Armenian. I would not be surprised if the paranoia that they suffer in the near future will nevertheless lead them to develop this idea. Moreover, this very letter “n” in the name of our planet Earth could fall and be lost as a result of some natural disasters that the planet has experienced more than once in its entire history of many billions. And suddenly some “Neanderthal Yanets” wrote down the history of Armenia in his “ancient Armenian portable cobblestone”. winked
  36. Rolex
    Rolex 3 May 2018 09: 07
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    According to Armenian historian Movses KhorenatsiAbgar was the son of Arsham - the son of Artashes, brother of Tigran II the Great. Some idiots seek Arsham as king of Armenia.

    laughing laughing laughing

    Pukhasuma - ruler of the Hittite kingdom, according to Armenian sources, was also an Armenian! lol Son of Ashot ... Ashot is the son of Aunt Aykanush, Aunt Aykanush, granddaughter of Sirun ... Sirun is the grandmother of Kim Kardashian ....... and so on ad infinitum. wassat

    I understand that you are Armenian, but do you Armenians really feel so impaired that to raise your self-esteem in your own (!) Eyes, you come up with all kinds of fairy tales about your “dreFFness”, “exclusivity”, etc.?
    lol

    When do you parade the globe of Armenia? lol

    PS. Sources are also super among Armenians ....... an Armenian historian, Wikipedia, which resembles a public park where everyone can "walk". laughing
  37. Naughty
    Naughty 3 May 2018 11: 57
    0
    ..... Ukromaydan didn’t teach anything to those who are now running in the streets in Armenia Yes, and generally didn’t teach anything. Let them slurp to the fullest. We need Azerbaijan to understand them quickly. business Once they themselves so wanted
  38. xomaNN
    xomaNN 3 May 2018 18: 26
    +1
    All knurled Ukrainian. 2004 scenario: the election has just passed and several million voters have elected their deputies, but here comes Street + a street politician who seriously recruits even SCHOLNIKOV (Hello, the scheme grew in bulk with his school age 13-15. Electorate) And oplya - the street is already steering and the legally elected government is in the bushes (another hello is Ukrainian. Ya. boar)
    I’ll be surprised if Azerbaijanis don’t go right now to return the Karabakh! And do not rus. guys then send there to fight. The Armenians themselves are delayed ... whether.
  39. Boyar
    Boyar 3 May 2018 18: 31
    +2
    I want Armenia to be rich and prosperous, and that all Armenians live in their prosperous Armenia and finally fall from Russia.
  40. mgero
    mgero 4 May 2018 12: 11
    -1
    Nakaplivanie voisk eto dezo. Tak kak nachaloss dvijenie vlast srazu pokazala starie kodri pod novim chislom. A tak kak strana U Nas malenkaya i soldati na granitcax imeyut toje telefoni eto stalo izvestno vsem chto dezo Nu krome avtora kaneshno.
  41. FLOOD
    FLOOD 4 May 2018 16: 19
    +1
    Quote: dsk
    Quote: Serg65
    Armenians and Jews are essentially cousins and fate is almost the same

    Armenia is the first country in which Christianity has become the state religion .... [/ b]

    Stop talking nonsense ...
  42. FLOOD
    FLOOD 4 May 2018 17: 22
    +1
    Quote: genisis
    I wonder where the author of the article came from insider! from the meeting of Aliyev and Erdogan? )))
    Last week, comments about the situation in Armenia are monotonous. Meanwhile, everything is developing in a calm direction. With the resignation of Sargsyan, the MO did not stop fulfilling its functions. And MO Artsakh precisely monitors the situation on the border of the republic and tracks the movements of the enemy. He will become Pashinyan, there will be early parliamentary elections, one of them will be taken by the new, permanent Prime Minister. State institutions will continue to work as before. Analogies with Ukraine are inappropriate. Armenia managed to avoid bloodshed and civil war, unlike Ukraine. We will observe the further development of events.

    Your MO cannot monitor anything, one brigade and one division from Karabakh were pulled up to Irevan, that’s what your MO is currently doing. Soon, the Shurtvans will do with you what they did in Khojaly. These are just flowers, look at both who are the first to notice the first berry, that place in Paradise is provided)))
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