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About time and loudspeakers. Pyongyang translates arrows, and Seoul stops propaganda

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The DPRK authorities decided on 5 in May to transfer the clock in the country to 30 minutes in advance to establish equal time with South Korea. This was reported on Monday by the TsTAK agency referring to the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme People’s Assembly (Parliament) of the DPRK “On Changing the Pyongyang Time”.


About time and loudspeakers. Pyongyang translates arrows, and Seoul stops propaganda


Apply Pyongyang time from 5 May 107 of the year Juche (2018 of the year)
- said in the decision.

The time difference between the two parts of the peninsula arose when the DPRK, on ​​the occasion of the anniversary of the liberation of Korea from the Japanese domination of 15 in August in 2015, switched the clocks half an hour ago.

At the same time, South Korea will remove the loudspeakers stationed in the demilitarized zone from 1 in May, which were previously used to wage a “psychological war” against the DPRK, the South Korean Ministry of Defense reported on Monday.

As part of the measures provided for in the Panmunjom Declaration, our armed forces will begin to dismantle the loudspeaker batteries installed at the military demarcation line for broadcasting to the North as the first measure from 1 May
- The local agency Ronhap gives a statement from the military.

The South Korean Defense Ministry stresses that it will fulfill the agreements of the South and the North while maintaining the "reliable combat readiness" of the armed forces of the Republic of Korea.
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  1. Vard
    Vard April 30 2018 07: 57
    +3
    Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ... There will be an industrialized state with a very strong economy ... besides possessing nuclear weapons ... which will allow it to pursue an independent policy ...
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya April 30 2018 08: 04
      +14
      Quote: Vard
      both Koreas will throw the USA ..

      who will give them something? wait for the next exercises of the staffs with south korea ...
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr April 30 2018 08: 16
        +3
        If both Koreas unite, it will be a great defeat for the Americans. And there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.
        1. Logall
          Logall April 30 2018 08: 21
          +8
          Quote: oleg-gr
          there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.

          There is always a reason, if desired! In Syria, he is constantly ... Constantly! And not only there. They will say that they are in Korea for the safety of Japan. Or Australia ... Or against the Assad regime! Or against global warming ...
          1. tap
            tap April 30 2018 09: 14
            0
            In Japan, and so American bases Tuyeva Hucha.
            1. hrych
              hrych April 30 2018 12: 17
              +3
              Quote: zapfen
              In Japan and so American bases

              The point here is different, behind the backs of these two Korean leaders, the shadow of one Northern Lord who proposed the Trans-Korean railway and the Trans-Korean gas pipe. Eun fulfills his father’s covenants. They say that the Chinese eliminated the Great Ira, so that he would not implement this Russian-Korean project. The competitiveness of the goods includes labor costs, the cost of energy and materials. Having received cheap pipe gas, the Koreans will be able to level the advantage of the Chinese in the cheap cost of labor, and they will beat Japanese goods with comparable quality. Korean goods will not go to ports and to troubled sea crossings. And by rail directly to Europe. North Korea will become a transit country and the economy will be stable overnight. And most importantly, a peace based on mutual benefit will come to the peninsula. The influence of China on the DPRK will fall; the US influence on the Republic of Korea will fall. Well, our Supreme will sell gas, receive transit of Korean goods, etc.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 April 30 2018 12: 46
                +1
                Yes, they will not unite. This is not the GDR with Germany. The "bourgeois" moods were strong in the GDR, people thought that now mana from heaven would be shed.
                And in the DPRK, they were qualitatively eliminated. So each side seems to be not opposed to unite with the lost brothers, but only if they are corrected.
                But they can establish economic relations. And then the Americans will really feel bad, they are dreaming of the DPRK to strangle hunger and block technologies, and all efforts are in vain. So this will be prevented by all means.
        2. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 29
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          If both Koreas unite, it will be a great defeat for the Americans. And there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.

          Kim the Third will be against unification, and the South Koreans themselves are not burning to unite with their poor relatives from the north.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 30 2018 08: 44
            +5
            Quote: mamertinets
            and the South Koreans themselves are not burning to unite with their poor relatives from the north.

            Germany and the GDR merged. We spent a lot, but in the end the game was worth the candle.
            The same situation with South Korea. A stage of big expenses for a couple of decades, and then a solid profit.
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 58
              +4
              Quote: mamertinets
              Quote: oleg-gr
              If both Koreas unite, it will be a great defeat for the Americans. And there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.

              Kim the Third will be against unification, and the South Koreans themselves are not burning to unite with their poor relatives from the north.

              Well, maybe the two Koreas will unite. What’s wrong with that? You will have a powerful state near you, $
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 30 2018 09: 05
                +3
                Quote: mamertinets
                Well, maybe the two Koreas will unite. So what?

                For Russia? Huge revenues from the transit of Korean goods to Europe. Plus income from the sale of recovery resources.
                1. mamertinets
                  mamertinets April 30 2018 09: 30
                  +5
                  All this is wonderful, but here’s the catch - whether the Koreans themselves will want to transit through Russia. Because the sea route is the cheapest. The project promoted by China (the Great Silk Road) is not an economic project, but a political one. One can’t even see such a smart artillery expert such !! ?? belay And you will always sell resources - besides them, you have nothing to offer other countries.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 30 2018 15: 38
                    0
                    Quote: mamertinets
                    After all, the sea route is the cheapest.

                    With equal distances, yes. But this is not so.
                2. Hole puncher
                  Hole puncher April 30 2018 10: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  For Russia? Huge revenues from the transit of Korean goods to Europe.

                  Do not be seduced by a far-fetched prospect, the RK trades in the sea, it is a leader in shipbuilding and will not contact Russian Railways. Moreover, the unification of Korea is still very far away.
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 30 2018 09: 22
          +1
          Quote: oleg-gr
          there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.

          So that the Yankees do not find a reason ..? “Hehe,” as Vitaliy says.
      2. Logall
        Logall April 30 2018 08: 18
        +3
        Marina Vitalievna love , we wait! Well, Eun-Trump meetings are also waiting ...
        We are waiting and hoping for Trump's vanity, for his desire to become a dove, to receive a prize ...
      3. Dashout
        Dashout April 30 2018 09: 12
        +4
        Quote: Masya Masya
        who will give them something? wait for the next state exercises with south korea ...

        Yes, .... it is necessary to wait not only for exercises, but also for provocations ...
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    2. mamertinets
      mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 14
      +7
      Quote: Vard
      Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ... There will be an industrialized state with a very strong economy ... besides possessing nuclear weapons ... which will allow it to pursue an independent policy ...

      How will the USA be thrown, dear? Explain your thought to us, dark and ignorant people. According to my calculations, exponential and periodic flogging of Syria have achieved their goal - Kim the Third has given up slack and backtracked. I understand that this scenario is extremely disadvantageous to Russia, but this is life. Kim the Third looked at how Russia “defended” its ally, Assad, and drew conclusions for himself. He is a smart guy, this Kim. He didn’t follow promises of the VO forum users in case of which he could lay bones for the people of North Korea and for his ideas juche !! wassat laughing bully
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 08: 21
        +1
        Quote: mamertinets
        How to throw the United States, dear?

        Just kick out and EVERYTHING! And China and Russia will help them, if that ...
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 31
          +5
          Meehan - if you have not drunk in the morning - explain your idea.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 08: 48
            +2
            Quote: mamertinets
            Meehan - if you have not drunk in the morning - explain your idea.

            Had already hehe. drinks . But I will explain briefly! They will begin to put pressure, well, there are all kinds of protests, then the joint exercises are different .. Then you can arrange a provocation with the rape of a schoolgirl by the US Korean Marine .. Next, the ships of Russia and China get full access to the ports of both Koreas. He requires the United States to leave the territory of fraternal South Korea in within 24 hours, it would otherwise strike at the bases .. Russia and China jointly increase their grouping in the territorial waters of the Korean peninsula, etc.
            UN agrees with Korean requirements! AND EVERYTHING .. heh heh
            1. Pereira
              Pereira April 30 2018 09: 52
              0
              I have such a suspicion that there are problems with democracy in South Korea. Bloody Mujenin must leave.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 30 2018 08: 55
        +9
        Quote: mamertinets
        and the periodic flogging of Syria reached its goal - Kim the Third gave a slack and backtracked.

        Nonsense.
        In real life, the humanitarian situation in the country forced him to do this. The cannibalistic countries of "democracy" have put North Korea on the brink of hunger. At the same time, constantly shedding crocodile tears about the “poor North Korean population”, which they themselves deprive of the cornerstone of “human rights” - the right to life

        As for the attacks on Syria. leadership Sev. Korea do not care about them. Rather, on the contrary, they are convinced that the course they have taken to create weapons of mass destruction is correct. Otherwise, they would have long repeated the fate of Libya or Syria.
        And they are well aware that the problem has no military solution. And they are also well aware that a possible US strike on them will cost the Americans enormous losses, both material and human, and above all, reputation.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 30 2018 09: 41
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: mamertinets
          and the periodic flogging of Syria reached its goal - Kim the Third gave a slack and backtracked.

          Nonsense.
          In real life, the humanitarian situation in the country forced him to do this. The cannibalistic countries of "democracy" have put North Korea on the brink of hunger. At the same time, constantly shedding crocodile tears about the “poor North Korean population”, which they themselves deprive of the cornerstone of “human rights” - the right to life

          As for the attacks on Syria. leadership Sev. Korea do not care about them. Rather, on the contrary, they are convinced that the course they have taken to create weapons of mass destruction is correct. Otherwise, they would have long repeated the fate of Libya or Syria.
          And they are well aware that the problem has no military solution. And they are also well aware that a possible US strike on them will cost the Americans enormous losses, both material and human, and above all, reputation.

          North Koreans act wisely, not peering at the promises of the couch warriors of this site to protect their native Korea to the last drop of blood wassat .You shed crocodile tears here about the poor North Koreans who fell under the sanctions, at the same time avoiding the question that they ecstatically forge the country's nuclear missile shield and almost every day the North Korean leadership promises to turn South Korea or Japan into radioactive ashes , then the United States, exactly like your Kiselev in his Sunday program. wassat And how do you order these countries to respond to this? Send more free humanitarian aid, so that the North Koreans would even more enthusiastically begin to forge the nuclear shield of the homeland?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 30 2018 15: 57
            0
            Quote: mamertinets
            North Koreans act wisely, not peering at the promises of the couch warriors of this site to protect their native Korea to the last drop of blood

            They themselves are doing their best, the Americans are clearly afraid of the consequences and forced to negotiate.

            Quote: mamertinets
            You shed crocodile tears here about the poor North Koreans who fell under the sanctions, at the same time bypassing the question that they ecstatically forge the country's nuclear missile shield and almost every day the North Korean leadership promises to turn South Korea or Japan into radioactive ash, then the United States, exactly like your Kiselev in his Sunday program. And how do you command these countries to respond to this?

            This “argumentation” surprisingly coincides with the arguments of international terrorism. "Their government sent troops to our country and therefore we have the right to blow up a couple of subway trains / send a couple of planes to skyscrapers"
            Don't you find it strange? It turns out that the "countries of democracy" are actually engaged in terrorism?
            Yandex gives the following definition: "Terrorism - violent acts against the civilian population, not the military, in order to intimidate, suppress the will of opponents, competitors, impose a certain line of behavior"
            And depriving the civilian population of food, medicine, and other basic necessities clearly fits this definition.
      3. Yura
        Yura April 30 2018 09: 10
        +3
        Quote: mamertinets
        According to my calculations, exponential and periodic flogs of Syria have achieved their goal - Kim the Third gave a slack and backtracked

        Especially for
        dark and ignorant people
        After the roar of an elephant in a china shop where nothing happened except the noise, the United States subsided, waiting for the moment where and in which corner you can still spoil, besides so that no one would notice. They were not noticed, without asking the United States about anything, both Koreas took a step towards whether the result will be or not, this is another conversation. You have one language, but how does he manage to do everything at the same time? Americans clean and lick everywhere, in the direction of Russia to work as a fan scattering what he cleaned with the Americans.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 30 2018 10: 02
          +1
          Quote: Jura
          Quote: mamertinets
          According to my calculations, exponential and periodic flogs of Syria have achieved their goal - Kim the Third gave a slack and backtracked

          Especially for
          dark and ignorant people
          After the roar of an elephant in a china shop where nothing happened except the noise, the United States subsided, waiting for the moment where and in which corner you can still spoil, besides so that no one would notice. They were not noticed, without asking the United States about anything, both Koreas took a step towards whether the result will be or not, this is another conversation. You have one language, but how does he manage to do everything at the same time? Americans clean and lick everywhere, in the direction of Russia to work as a fan scattering what he cleaned with the Americans.

          Dear, I don’t lick anyone, if you want to know, just a little North Korea does not have enough resources to just stand the blockade, not to mention the military clash with the most powerful country in the world, plus Japan and South Korea. It would be right if North Korea had a few vigorous bombs, but the main forester is against.
          1. Yura
            Yura April 30 2018 10: 12
            +1
            Quote: mamertinets
            if you want to know, just a little North Korea does not have enough resources to simply endure the blockade, not to mention a military clash with the most powerful country in the world, plus Japan and South Korea. It would be correct if North Korea had a few vigorous bombs, but the main forester is against.

            Don’t worry about North Korea, will they sort it out themselves, and Japan and South Korea together? You went over that. Regarding Nuclear bombs in the UK, the main culprit of this USA is not even subject to discussion, study the question of how it all began, then make your conclusions. And the forester is not the United States, but Russia and China, who are against the proliferation of nuclear weapons, but they understand where their legs are growing from.
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets April 30 2018 10: 21
              +1
              Your country voted in unison with China for the imposition of sanctions.
              1. Yura
                Yura April 30 2018 10: 39
                0
                Quote: mamertinets
                Your country voted in unison with China for the imposition of sanctions.

                So what? I wrote to you:
                Quote: Jura
                And the forester here is not the USA, but Russia and China, which are against the proliferation of nuclear weapons
      4. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 30 2018 09: 12
        +8
        Quote: mamertinets
        Kim the Third watched as Russia “defended” its ally, Assad, and drew conclusions for himself. He is a smart guy, this Kim.

        Oh fool laughing Wai Me, such nonsense from the Maidan could only Razmik license plate, he is a rapier, he is a katana of Armenian flood, voiced. good remind me darling when the mattresses had time to throw Assad? belay Well, I haven’t heard this, Assad has just heard more lively than all the living and is finishing off his barmales in Damascus, and he is a man with eggs, unlike the Sargsyans, Pashinyans and other Yanukovychs.
        Quote: mamertinets
        He did not fall for the promises of the members of the VO site if something went wrong with the bones for the people of North Korea and for his ideas of Juche !!

        And then you lay down the bones, then the comedian himself, or at a forum in the language of war fight much. Or do you need the Koreans to fight each other, and then China, Russia and the United States entered the war, so the planet Earth will not remain. War damn it. negative
      5. Dashout
        Dashout April 30 2018 09: 18
        +3
        Quote: mamertinets
        , exponential and periodic flogging of Syria have reached their goal

        Where did you see this? There was our calm warning, and then some yapping from around the corner ... Moreover, this yapping showed that the voices of non-fighting dogs sound at all!
    3. Wendigo
      Wendigo April 30 2018 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ..

      And then the United States in general? And what does it mean, “throw” can you explain your idea? The United States will only benefit if it becomes calmer. They already have enough problems.
      1. mamertinets
        mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 44
        +4
        Quote: Wendigo
        Quote: Vard
        Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ..

        And then the United States in general? And what does it mean, “throw” can you explain your idea? The United States will only benefit if it becomes calmer. They already have enough problems.

        A forum member under the nickname Vard simply issued another anti-American, as he thinks, wassat opus. As always, without first thinking, because he has it with it tight.
        1. Dashout
          Dashout April 30 2018 09: 24
          +8
          Quote: mamertinets
          for he is tight with it

          Oooooo ..... on 09.22, on the 6 day of existence on the forum, a pro-American subject under the nickname “Mamertine” published 131 poisonous posts ... This is speed, this is mind ....
          A simple question: What energy is pushing this subject to scribble his comments?
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 09: 44
            0
            Quote: Dashout
            A simple question: What energy is pushing this subject to scribble his comments?

            Yes, let him write, different opinions are needed on the VO site .. And then it will be boring he he
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 30 2018 09: 02
        +7
        Quote: Wendigo
        And then the United States in general?

        Are you aware that the American group of forces in that area is larger than in Europe? Moreover, both Japan and South Korea spend huge amounts of money on its maintenance.
        Formally, the group "protects from North Korea." In reality, the advanced bases for a possible and very probable war with China, in which South Korea and Japan will inevitably be involved.

        But if the problem of "aggressive North Korea" is resolved, then the pretext for the presence of American troops there will disappear. Therefore, I’m wanging: the Americans will definitely put before Kim unacceptable requirements for him to stop the peaceful dialogue and reduce tensions in any way.
        1. Wendigo
          Wendigo April 30 2018 09: 17
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          In reality, advanced bases for a possible and very probable war with China

          And there is. And from their bell tower this is logical and correct. Another thing is that they will have nowhere to go. Unless it remains to solicit a comforting yummy from China, we withdraw our troops, we turn off missile defense, give us this and that for something that would not be especially pulled ..
          And this is correct and their side.
        2. Yura
          Yura April 30 2018 11: 52
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Therefore, I’m wanging: the Americans will definitely put before Kim unacceptable requirements for him to stop the peaceful dialogue and reduce tensions in any way.

          Solasen is one hundred percent with you, except for this, North Korea itself, in the sense of Eun, loudly declared that the condition for the destruction and complete curtailment of the DPRK's nuclear program is the withdrawal of foreign, that is, American troops from South Korea, the same condition is designated as basic in the future hypathetic unification of both Koreas, which the United States, to put it mildly, will not do.
    4. nikoliski
      nikoliski April 30 2018 08: 53
      +1
      In terms of nominal GDP (not PPP), South Korea has already bypassed Russia, if unified, it will be a power of the G-XNUMX level. (I only doubt that the incitement of hatred for decades will come to naught overnight)
    5. NG inform
      NG inform April 30 2018 09: 45
      0
      They cannot throw — the South Caucasus is simply occupied, it really doesn’t even have its own army — it finances the troops, but headquarters and command are part of the structure of the US Army. But the USA is non-contact and no Koreans can throw them out.
    6. den3080
      den3080 April 30 2018 09: 45
      +1
      If the unification of Korea really begins, then the United States will curb a tomahawk with a nuclear warhead in Japan, blame Un and blame it ... on the stake, start over again.
      Well, maybe some of their own or the British old military trough will be drowned in the sea between between Korea and Japan, with a video, with all the affairs ... and so that no hackers like white helmets ... and the same thing - Eun attacked ...
    7. masterovoy
      masterovoy 1 May 2018 11: 01
      0
      I am 100% sure that the United States will not allow the unification of North and South Korea, will in every way drag out this issue, up to the creation of a military conflict.
  2. Clueless
    Clueless April 30 2018 08: 07
    0
    Quote: Vard
    Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ... There will be an industrialized state with a very strong economy ... besides possessing nuclear weapons ... which will allow it to pursue an independent policy ...


    Yeah, who's the current that will allow them? USA, China, Japan, and Russia, we are not interested in this
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 30 2018 09: 07
      0
      Russia, on the contrary, is interested. They are not a competitor to us.
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    1. 97110
      97110 April 30 2018 09: 39
      0
      Quote: AEN
      Koreans themselves must think ...

      Yeah. There the Sumerians ... thought up: "America is with them!"
  4. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov April 30 2018 08: 13
    +3
    Chubby Chinese replaced during his trip to Beijing! The Chinese have no equal in making copies. It is necessary to save the present.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 30 2018 10: 12
      +1
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      Chubby Chinese replaced during his trip to Beijing! The Chinese have no equal in making copies. It is necessary to save the present.

      This is the direct scenario of the new kin! Think creatively.
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov April 30 2018 10: 14
        0
        Quote: Puncher
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        Chubby Chinese replaced during his trip to Beijing! The Chinese have no equal in making copies. It is necessary to save the present.

        This is the direct scenario of the new kin! Think creatively.

        This is the script for the 2012 film "The Dictator", and now it has come to life.
  5. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 30 2018 08: 23
    0
    This is not the first time that the “warming relationship” between the two Koreas has begun. And every time - temporarily. We will look and hope for the best.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 30 2018 10: 13
      0
      Quote: alex-cn
      This is not the first time that the “warming relationship” between the two Koreas has begun. And every time - temporarily. We will look and hope for the best.

      Well, then this has not happened in the history of these states, I hope the direction will not change
  6. Franz Josef Land
    Franz Josef Land April 30 2018 08: 33
    +3
    Looks like you have run out of money at all, now it will be blackmailing. Such do not leave the government themselves, either as Gaddafi or as Hussein.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 30 2018 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: Franz Josef Land
      Such do not leave the government themselves, either as Gaddafi or as Hussein.

      Nobody in the world knows what circumstances forced the cheeky to cut the back, maybe there is a threat to his life and he is trying to bargain for a couple of years. His surroundings are still demons.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 30 2018 08: 38
    +1
    Symbolically! Quite! And in the Far East, a country may appear that is not much weaker than Japan! Yes, with direct access to Russia (bypassing China)! We need such an "alternative" as opposed to the very stifling hugs of China.
    1. mamertinets
      mamertinets April 30 2018 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Symbolically! Quite! And in the Far East, a country may appear that is not much weaker than Japan! Yes, with direct access to Russia (bypassing China)! We need such an "alternative" as opposed to the very stifling hugs of China.

      You Russians should be engaged in the development of your own country, rather than interfering in the internal affairs of close and distant countries. What are the latest publications on the site about the events taking place in Armenia now and comments on them. With such a "development", Russia and Mongolia will soon seem scary beast. bully
      1. NG inform
        NG inform April 30 2018 09: 46
        -1
        Yes, the Russians, as it were, do not mind, but this is only suicide, when a giant with a noose creeps up to you. Let me remind you that in the 90s, when Russia was doing this, NATO doubled in territory.
        1. AID.S
          AID.S April 30 2018 13: 45
          0
          Quote: NG inform
          You Russians should have dealt with the development of your own country, rather than interfering in the internal affairs of close and far-off countries.
          , and not interfere with the development of developed (Welk that Armenia) countries?
      2. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz April 30 2018 10: 00
        0
        Quote: mamertinets
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Symbolically! Quite! And in the Far East, a country may appear that is not much weaker than Japan! Yes, with direct access to Russia (bypassing China)! We need such an "alternative" as opposed to the very stifling hugs of China.

        You Russians should be engaged in the development of your own country, rather than interfering in the internal affairs of close and distant countries. What are the latest publications on the site about the events taking place in Armenia now and comments on them. With such a "development", Russia and Mongolia will soon seem scary beast. bully

        And we are engaged in the development of our country. Not as good as we would like, even the most stubborn urapatriot admits this. Yes, that's just not for you Armenians to tell us what we should do. For for our mistakes and the mistakes of our rulers, we pay ourselves. It happens even rulers pay. And in the case of centuries-old failures in your own country, you are happy to crawl around the world, to where I’ll go warmer and belly more satisfying. And the essence of the numerous comments on the VO about the events in Armenia comes down to the fact that there is a large share of probability that as a result of the next brainless boom that you made, the next wave of migrants will splash out into the world. And first of all, to Russia, which you think you can teach yourself what to do.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 30 2018 10: 29
          +1
          Don’t scare us - the Azerbaijanis reasoned the same way, looking at the map of the Azerbaijan SSR and the Armenian SSR. Now many of them hang on this site and take Karabakh, Sevan, Yerevan several times a year.
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz April 30 2018 13: 08
            0
            Some kind of crap off topic you wrote. I did not write about Azerbaijan (Tsev) and Karabakh, and I somehow do not care to scare you. And you will run around the world and to Russia not from the Azerbaijanis, but stupidly where you are more satisfying and your ass is warm. Well, I repeat it already. Take a look at the above.
  8. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket April 30 2018 08: 53
    0
    a color revolution awaits any Korea
    led by Fashington am
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  10. fa2998
    fa2998 April 30 2018 09: 22
    +2
    Quote: Bad
    and we are not interested in Russia

    Why is Russia not profitable? The population of both Koreas is pr. 100 mln. People, it’s like 3 Ukraine, AND WITH MONEY AND INDUSTRY. There is a profitable client for gas, oil, etc. The land border with them.
    Separately, there is no money to supply the DPRK, and an extra transit. Yes, and negotiates with them about the transit to the south, the policy is suspended, now it’s the ideology of the enemy! hi
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 09: 36
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Why is Russia not profitable?

      Russia is very profitable if the United States is not there! The Northern Sea Route, and it was also created for them .. And there the turnover will be huge!
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 09: 33
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    Yet Eun brilliantly conducted the operation .. Excellent strategist! Although it is whined here that he was led by threats of the USA, etc.
    It's not like that at all! The DPRK created nuclear weapons and missile launchers, gathering all its resources into a "fist" .. And they did IT!
    The USA and "the whole world community" tore and threw caviar (on our website too) .. Like ALL Khan Unu and the DPRK!
    And he made a tricky move and went closer to South Korea! In fact, he takes it under his protection from the United States and other "merchants", etc. If they unite and drive out, the United States will be a truly independent and strong state .. Well, Russia and China will not forget what we did for them! soldier
  12. APASUS
    APASUS April 30 2018 09: 54
    +1
    Everything is wonderful, of course, only South Korea can not guarantee anything to the northerners on its own. And the role of the Americans in this game is not entirely peacekeeping. Although now we look at Trump, he needs victories at least such a plan, maybe now he will turn everything around and record a point! But knowing the Americans .............. not long the music played!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 10: 04
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      Quote: APASUS
      Everything is certainly wonderful, only South Korea cannot guarantee anything to the northerners on their own.

      And this is not required from them, the main thing is not to interfere! There, serious countries are interested in uniting and expelling the United States from this region! We work men ..
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 30 2018 10: 07
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        Quote: MIKHAN
        There, serious countries are interested in uniting and expelling the United States from this region.

        Did the US ask? Do they want to leave the region, or maybe they will also take up peaceful actions in the place of war, but don’t tell
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 10: 27
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          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: MIKHAN
          There, serious countries are interested in uniting and expelling the United States from this region.

          Did the US ask? Do they want to leave the region, or maybe they will also take up peaceful actions in the place of war, but don’t tell

          The United States and do not need to ask .. PRESS them need all over the world of bloodsuckers! Yes, it will be difficult and may even have to shoot, but I see no other way! It is useless to negotiate with them, it has long been clear .. soldier Death is better than surviving the 90s and the turmoil in Russia again!
  13. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher April 30 2018 10: 25
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    Yeah, the Chinese have missed a chance, now Trump has become famous as a tamer of Un, and the US influence on the Republic of Kazakhstan has only increased. Comrade C has obviously blunted ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 30 2018 10: 32
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      Quote: Puncher
      Comrade X is clearly blunt

      IMHO yet he is not one of you two wink
  14. Old26
    Old26 April 30 2018 11: 33
    +2
    Quote: Vard
    Together, the two Koreas will throw the United States ... There will be an industrialized state with a very strong economy ... besides possessing nuclear weapons ... which will allow it to pursue an independent policy ...

    Do not flatter yourself. As an example, today's Germany. 30 years have passed, and the eastern part (ex. GDR) lags behind the western one in terms of total industrial potential. Despite the fact that their level of development was comparable. Germany did not differ from the GDR by a factor of ten in potential, but as they say, by 3 times.
    Here, everything is completely different. The bulk of the DPRK enterprises was built long ago and their potential is half their potential behind the same enterprises in South Korea (as they say every 15-20). Alignment will take more than just a year, decades.
    A united Korea will not have nuclear weapons. One of the main conditions for the negotiation process is the elimination of nuclear weapons. Otherwise, everything will go in a circle again. So, to throw off the “Americans” it will take a very, very long time.

    Quote: oleg-gr
    If both Koreas unite, it will be a great defeat for the Americans. And there will be no reason to deploy troops in the Republic of Korea.

    Is not a fact. Everything will depend on the "scheme" by which such a union will take place. In any case, the dictates of the TPK will cease to exist. It is unlikely that 50 million South Koreans will want to live the way their northern counterparts live. But 25 million northerners - there is still a big question. "Discover" the opportunity for them to live like southerners, will they need the Juche ideology? And TPK is unlikely to play the leading role in a united Korea. And this means that it is not a fact that the united will be a great defeat for the Americans. The disappearance from the political map of the world of the DPRK - this will be the victory of the Americans ...

    Quote: Spade
    Germany and the GDR merged. We spent a lot, but in the end the game was worth the candle.
    The same situation with South Korea. A stage of big expenses for a couple of decades, and then a solid profit.

    Most likely, 2 decades will not work. 30 years have passed since the reunification of Germany, and they, parts of Germany, are not equal yet. what to say about Korea when there is a gap even greater

    Quote: mamertinets
    All this is fine, but here's the catch - will the Koreans themselves want transit through Russia.

    Are there any options?

    Quote: mamertinets
    After all, the sea route is the cheapest ..

    Yes, when transporting at the same distance. But from Korea to the same Germany, Kiel can (conditionally) be transported only by two sea routes. Around Asia, through Suez, along the SPM, and further to Kiel. Approximately 25 thousand km will be released. It is possible through the NSR. Before Murmansk, about 12 thousand, and 3 thousand around Scandinavia to the same Kiel. You can keep within 15-16 km. And it is possible through Russia, along the Trans-Siberian Railway. The distance will approximately reach thousands in 10. But also take into account the speed of transportation along the Trans-Siberian Railway. It is much more speed when shipping

    Quote: mamertinets
    The project promoted by China (the Great Silk Road) is not an economic project, but a political one ..

    But in any case, it will pass through the territory of China, Kazakhstan, Russia and further through Belarus, Poland to Germany. It will result in the same approximately 10-11 thousand kilometers. Any other direction is more “long” and risks are high .. So whether Koreans want it or not (and Southerners probably know how to count money), you can’t do without transit through Russia

    Quote: mamertinets
    And you will always sell resources - besides them, you have nothing to offer other countries.

    Nothing else? A weapon, for example, or food? Iskander, which is in service with your aircraft, and almost all other weapon systems from Mars have been delivered, or can they be purchased from America? Do not worry. Export diversification is always possible

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Further, the ships of Russia and China get full access to the ports of both Koreas.

    Especially the ships of Russia ... Yeah. And the southerners will send the Chinese fleet, perhaps even in Russian ...

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Eun demands that the United States leave the territory of fraternal South Korea within 24 hours, otherwise it will strike at the bases ..

    Eun? Require the Americans? And from the strain does not burst? Will hit the bases? So it’s easier for him to simply shoot himself, because after the Americans destroy the DPRK, they themselves will require trial and execution over him, as a politician who plunged the country into a war with millions of victims ...

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Russia and China jointly increase their grouping in the territorial waters of the Korean peninsula, etc.

    That’s all that remains. China will really need to fit in the inadequacy, which decided to play war games? And the Pacific Fleet of Russia - it is certainly powerful. How many running pennants? Including ships of the main classes?

    Quote: MIKHAN
    UN agrees with Korean requirements! AND EVERYTHING .. heh heh

    Vitalik! are you seriously stupid or pretend Will the UN agree? Which UN? Security Council? So there the Americans and their allies have the VETO right. General Assembly - it still needs to be assembled, and its decisions are not binding. What will the UN agree to? What Eun, who started the war p.i.durok? Yes, I must agree with this

    Quote: Spade
    And they are well aware that the problem has no military solution. And they are also well aware that a possible US strike on them will cost the Americans enormous losses, both material and human, and above all, reputation.

    There really is no military solution without the mass deaths of the inhabitants of both Koreas. what about huge losses? Yes, there will certainly be material losses, war is still not a cheap thing, reputational - it will all depend on the situation. If their move will be an "answer", but the reputational losses will not be so significant, they will not be the aggressor. But if they strike first, yes, reputational losses will be quite large. But human is unlikely. In any case, there will be "cannon fodder" in the form of South Korea and (or) Japan.

    Quote: APASUS
    Did the US ask?

    What for. MIKHAN said, so it is

    In general, both sides are taking their first steps towards each other. It would seem a trifle to turn the arrows or remove the speakers, but when this is done after 65 years - this is still an achievement
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 30 2018 11: 50
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      Quote: Old26
      What for. MIKHAN said, so it is
      In general, both sides are taking their first steps towards each other. It would seem a trifle to turn the arrows or remove the speakers, but when this is done after 65 years - this is still an achievement

      That is the whole point of this operation! bully
      This is now starting around the world ...
  15. da Vinci
    da Vinci April 30 2018 14: 12
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    Briefly: Unification of Korea is beneficial only to the Korean people and Russia. Why? Democracy in Korea is unnecessary to Pyongyang. Communist Korea is unnecessary to Seoul. A strong Korea is unnecessary to the USA, Japan and China. Russia needs a calm and strong Korea as a counterweight to Japan and China + to remove the United States from the peninsula. IMHO hi