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In Kiev: In the Hitler army, the Ukrainians were better than in the Red

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The director of the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine made a statement that was unexpected for Ukraine. According to Vladimir Vyatrovich, the anniversary of the creation of the Waffen SS division “Galicia” (“Galicia”) is not a holiday for Ukraine. However, after this statement, Vyatrovich could not refrain from a stream of consciousness, embarking on comparing the Red Army with the Nazi troops, noting that the Hitler army was in many ways better for the Ukrainians ... The whole post of director of UINP on Facebook:


The anniversary of the creation of the Waffen SS division "Galicia" - not a holiday for Ukrainians. In the German and Soviet armies in World War II, Ukrainians were perceived in the same way - as cannon fodder. The only difference is that those mobilized in the “Galicia” division were trained a year before being thrown into battle, and the Red Army recruits were often thrown into the meat grinder at once. But this is not out of the love of the Germans for the Ukrainians - they only rationally used human resources, which were less than the Russians.


In Kiev: In the Hitler army, the Ukrainians were better than in the Red


In the comments, Facebook users responded to Vyatrovich.

Oleg Rotanov Odessa (Odessa):
And those schooled for the year from the SS division Galychyn fled in one day from the recruits of the Red Army.)))) Well, the storyteller.

Grigory Chelak (Odessa):
The post of director of the National Sclerosis Institute is very eloquent. It seems that the curators of the regime in Ukraine made it clear to him that he went far in the glorification of the Nazi lackeys, and Vyatrovich turned on the back)))


Vyatrovich got from the Ukrainian radicals, angry with the words that the anniversary of the creation of the SS division "Galicia" is not a holiday for Ukrainians.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 29 2018 06: 24
    +8
    In Kiev: In the Hitler army, the Ukrainians were better than in the Red
    History has the property of repeating itself. It’s disgusting even to read everything. But there is, that is. And in many ways, therefore, I am anti-communist.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 April 29 2018 06: 45
      +17
      Quote: Observer2014
      It’s disgusting even to read it all.

      But is it not disgusting?
      And further, the SBU of Ukraine reports that “Hitler was certainly a tyrant and an international criminal, but for his people and the peoples of the allied powers, he, unlike Stalin, intended to provide a better life. From the position of political pragmatism, the union of the Ukrainian state (???. Auth.) With Germany was justified. ” Unbelievable? But a fact.

      And now about the Jews. Quote: “Hitler and Stalin were not so different from each other in the“ Jewish question ”. The first advocated a “final decision” through the physical extermination of Jews. The second supported the idea of ​​their mass deportation to remote areas of the world to create the State of Israel there ”


      And in many ways, therefore, I am anti-communist.

      and what does anti-communism have to do with it? belay
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 29 2018 06: 51
        +3
        LSA57 (Sergei)
        and what does anti-communism have to do with it?
        Seryozha is a “funny smiley” despite the fact that we are reaping the fruits of the “Friendship of Peoples” for the fact that the very notion of Ukrainians was elevated in due time. Yes, because in the national question they really did it in such a way, in due time, that it’s still hard to disentangle long. I see? hi
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 29 2018 06: 54
          +15
          Quote: Observer2014
          Yes, for the fact that in the national question they really did it in their own time, that they still had to disentangle how long it was.

          so what does communism have to do with it? I myself am not enthusiastic about him, but here in China the Communists are still in power and there is nothing like that. in Belarus no, but a lot where no
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 April 29 2018 07: 01
            +2
            LSA57 (Sergei)
            so what does communism have to do with it?
            Boys, go "bite" someone else. So far, I haven’t paid much attention to you at the moment. And then, for a word I won’t get into my pocket for a long time. bully Do not spoil your mood and me. repeat laughing
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 April 29 2018 07: 03
              +6
              Quote: Observer2014
              Boys, go bite someone else.

              Yes, I didn’t seem to bite anyone, answered the question.
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 April 29 2018 07: 07
                +3
                LSA57 Sergey. So I misunderstood you. hi
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 April 29 2018 07: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  Sergey. So I misunderstood you.

                  received hi drinks
          2. self-propelled
            self-propelled April 29 2018 10: 32
            +6
            with ... decree, himself in shock. born in the Union, educated in the Union. I remember the story of 8-10 classes ... I just get stuck - what will happen to the younger generation !? Respect dough and Coca-Cola ?! wassat and this is all the values?

            "... war sits in any of us ... and we guys shouldn’t die on it ..."
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek April 29 2018 22: 07
              +1
              Quote: self-propelled
              with ... decree, himself in shock. born in the Union, educated in the Union. I also remember the history of grades 8-10 ... I just fall into a stupor - what will happen next with the younger generation !? Respect dough and Coca-Cola ?! and this is all the values?

              and I got an education in the 90s ... and there are no problems ... you should not ascribe loot and cola here ... these are more likely the problems of families that raise ... pigs !!! wink yes request laughing laughing
              1. self-propelled
                self-propelled April 30 2018 15: 29
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                it is rather the problems of families that raise ... pigs !!!

                it is rather a problem of the state, which does not pay due attention to the upbringing of the younger generation in the right direction. hence the youth’s cruelty (in my youth, children were distinguished by cruelty, and by no means all of the dysfunctional families. and now youth, for the most part, do not know compassion), hence the thirst for “easy” money (“factories for suckers, and the advanced generation should not hunch over uncle "and the like in that vein). what to expect from such people in the future?
                I do not claim that the younger generation is all that. not. there are bright heads. but there’s less light in my head, alas
          3. Fitter
            Fitter April 29 2018 10: 46
            +4
            We have the same thing :(
            The whores and the livignies raise their heads. But Lukashenko is trying to sit on two chairs, and this, damn it, is crippled.
            1. self-propelled
              self-propelled April 30 2018 14: 46
              +1
              sitting on two chairs, you can break your ass (this applies not only to Belarus (Belarus repeat )
            2. Yatvyag
              Yatvyag 1 May 2018 10: 26
              0
              The problem is not in gentry and Litvin. As you write. The young generation no longer divides each other on a national basis. But in propaganda of the Western way of life and European values. Lukashenko. nothing except sports is of interest. and in the government there are idlers staring at the IMF's mouth and quietly ruining the industry
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 29 2018 06: 51
        +16
        Quote: LSA57
        and what does anti-communism have to do with it?

        This is a "publicity" laughing
      3. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 29 2018 06: 58
        +15
        Hi guys! hi Of course, there is nothing to do with anti-communism, and the rest is all vile. Their history of statehood is scarce, one can say it doesn’t, and it didn’t exist. From here only these “achievements” remain, achieved by abominable, diabolical means.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 29 2018 07: 20
          +6
          R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Their history of statehood is scarce, one can say it doesn’t, and it didn’t exist.

          It is out of meagerness that they are engaged in inventing and rewriting history. fool
          1. ul_vitalii
            ul_vitalii April 29 2018 07: 37
            +8
            Hello Pasha drinks They will polish their "old" pseudo-history to holes, then they will take something from the "latest" history, as a result, the water in the sieve and the void in the head. hi
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter April 29 2018 07: 44
              +6
              I am amazed: how, being at the bottom, do they manage to sink even lower? what
              1. Mestny
                Mestny April 29 2018 09: 39
                +1
                This is not it, not the bottom.
                The bottom is when rivers of blood and destroyed cities. Then the rest begin to think. History of Germany, 2MB.
                And there are no other ways to bring to life.
            2. shura7782
              shura7782 April 29 2018 07: 57
              +5
              Quote: ul_vitalii
              Hello Pasha drinks ....... as a result, the water in the sieve and the void in the head. hi

              The current government there has already numbed there, with the support of partners, that even, in a favorable situation, hatred of Russia is thoroughly rooted in the mind much deeper than after the Second World War.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 April 29 2018 07: 48
            +4
            How good morning? soldier
            And we can honestly answer, at least to ourselves, - But we just distort history with a small mind and low moral qualities ???
            If history is destroyed, distorted, it means that someone needs it !!! Who needs?
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter April 29 2018 07: 51
              +3
              Vitya, you moron! hi Any authority at all times was engaged in rewriting history for themselves. But not on such a scale as the 404th.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 29 2018 09: 08
                +3
                They are scratching in the necessary volumes, if if by "intelligence"! And then simply either the babosiks earn money, or get branded on .... but no matter on what "ground"!
                Disfigure life / brains of a couple, three generations of dill .... in short, it is necessary to finish those enlighteners.
        2. uragan114
          uragan114 April 29 2018 11: 04
          +2
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Hi guys! hi Of course, there is nothing to do with anti-communism, and the rest is all vile. Their history of statehood is scarce, one can say it doesn’t, and it didn’t exist. From here only these “achievements” remain, achieved by abominable, diabolical means.


          Neither of which is scarce. From the Sumerians themselves and the ancient Egyptians comes laughing laughing
        3. Lelek
          Lelek April 29 2018 14: 09
          +2
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Their history of statehood is scarce, one can say it doesn’t, and it didn’t exist.

          hi
          Ragul is not a lesson for future use. At that time, they made knixen to the German governor-general, now they have a piggroom puppet, and they will present at least someone (even a bald one), but from behind a hillock.
      4. electrooleg
        electrooleg April 29 2018 11: 08
        +1
        - In the Hitler army is better.
        - What is better?
        - Than in Red!
        laughing
    2. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh April 29 2018 08: 27
      0
      You are against the Communists, and for whom are you?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 29 2018 09: 21
        +3
        Interestingly, what choice?
        Not for the Communists, who are all the embodiment of the idea of ​​social justice.
        For the capitalists, all other parties / ideas from this ... group ... forget about social justice.
        Choose?
        Or did someone invent something else?
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 April 29 2018 10: 25
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          Interestingly, what choice?

          I have a simple choice - I am for such communists as my grandfather, who joined the party at the front, and there the communist had one "privilege" to die in the forefront ... I am for the Communists, like my father, who worked all his life as a machine operator and worked hard so that people still give him an example ... and as for the article, this Pan Vyatrovich is a very funny person, because first of all, he apparently didn’t read the evidence of some “Galicians” who recalled how German officers forced them to sing Ukrainian songs in gas masks, or about how one of them was shot simply because he decided to play a trick on the Germans by covering him with a blanket, and finally, secondly, why the lads so well-trained by the Germans were defeated by the Soviet army for several days ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 29 2018 11: 39
            +6
            Those who swung at our veterans, ancestors, immediately .... and bury below the ground!
            We also have something to be proud of, the great history of our country, we are part of it!
            Yes, it happened, we were lost along the way, and so history is our support, to keep it and pass it on to the children! Then no arch .... radish will not be able to turn our descendants from the right path!
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii April 29 2018 11: 53
              +3
              Hello, hello! hi Well done, well said, to the point drinks
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 29 2018 16: 49
                +3
                Hi Vitaliy soldier
                The holiday is ahead, our SOVIET, Native and at the same our story!
                Let's be healthy friends drinks and they will be bright, happy, our days!
          2. Opera
            Opera April 29 2018 12: 19
            +1
            There is absolutely nothing to argue about, much less surprised at! All this Ukrainians - Selukovism and the Ukrainian lobby, has been poisoning Russian history from century to century. You are surprised because you take them for yours. Suppose that with such "cute" Ukrainian features, but still for most Russians they are their own. This is an illusion! Whatever name the Russian empire bears, they are hostile to it because they are hostile to the Russian sovereign principle!
            To understand this you need to know and perceive our history without political tinsel. Have you ever wondered where it suddenly came from so many elderly Bandera ?! and this is largely due to the activities in Ukraine of such a well-known communist - Trotskyist as Khrushchev! In 1945, 1947 - 1948. tens of thousands were amnestied !!!!!!! bandits, deserters and direct accomplices of the enemy! And in May 1947, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR "On the abolition of the death penalty" was issued! This is how the Soviet people generally lost their right to revenge on the war criminals whom they deserved! Further, September 1955, a decree on amnesty for Soviet citizens who collaborated with the invaders! Moreover, even those collaborators who worked in the Hitler authorities and even those who were abroad at that moment were rehabilitated by this decree! And now the most interesting thing is that Ukrainian Nazis were massively returned to their former place of residence. The authorities of the Ukrainian SSR helped them with housing and compensated for the expropriated from them in 1944-1953. property!!!!! Over 20 such rehabilitated people arrived in the Ukrainian SSR in the first period !!! What kind of humanism is so interesting to me ?! Over the next few years, about 000 !!! And then many of these rehabilitated led (yes yes) district committees, regional and executive committees! Here is such a fatherly care of Khrushchev about twin cities! I can only add that for some reason, by this decree, Soviet Germans, for example, were not restored in their rights! But the Ukrainian Nazis were returning to their historical homeland with perfectly normal documents! Yes, that there are Germans - many more of our fighters who were in captivity were sitting! For those who wish, I can continue, although this is not about posts, but multi-page articles must be written! So why are you wondering now? What are you arguing about ?! "I am for the Bolsheviks, and I am for the Communists!" The Communists fought with Bandera! But not all communists! And some Communists, being essentially Bandera, even led the struggle against Bandera! What all this led to, we are now witnessing firsthand! I will only add that Bandera in Ukraine did not begin with Bandera, but from the end of the 50th century - the collapse of the Old Russian State (Kievan Rus is the name used by historians to designate a temporary historical period) and the degradation of south-western principalities and further Poland - Austria - Hungary - Ukraine .. Northeastern Russia followed its imperial path!
    3. naidas
      naidas April 29 2018 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      anti-communist.

      You would be dear to the tornados to get to the procedure, and immediately healed and the nonsense passed, you see the anti-communist.
    4. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 29 2018 21: 16
      0
      And indeed, if it had not been for the oaths of Muscovites 404 for almost 70 years as they were in Europe, fascist Germany is precisely the embodiment of European true values. good
  2. Украинец
    Украинец April 29 2018 06: 28
    +11
    Hang it somewhere on a tree. Then take a picture on a postcard.
    And send veterans on May 9 with congratulations
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 29 2018 06: 48
      +3
      Quote: Ukrainian
      Hang it somewhere on a tree. Then take a picture on a postcard. And send veterans on May 9 with congratulations

      Are you normal Ask the veterans - do they need that card ??
      And there are those who put this plus negative
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 April 29 2018 06: 49
      +4
      Quote: Ukrainian
      Then take a picture on a postcard.

      they now have such cards in use. pah, abomination am
      1. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx April 29 2018 11: 01
        0
        indeed, an abomination: a woman is worse than nuclear war, it is clear why the heroic Aryan warrior does not even look at her
      2. electrooleg
        electrooleg April 29 2018 11: 13
        +1
        Postcard tin! With drug addiction in Ukraine, in fact, everything is deplorable. recourse
    3. 210ox
      210ox April 29 2018 06: 52
      +8
      Well, hang it ... You are Ukrainian, and so to say, your problem is first of all .. And you can send a postcard overseas to the curator.
      Quote: Ukrainian
      Hang it somewhere on a tree. Then take a picture on a postcard.
      And send veterans on May 9 with congratulations
      1. Украинец
        Украинец April 29 2018 17: 06
        +1
        Are you blunting
        You want Yeltsin, but no one hung him ...
        What would Vyatrovich hang need a new revolution.
        We have not yet expected this
  3. Clumsy
    Clumsy April 29 2018 06: 31
    +4
    Ukraine is less and less like a state, walk the field.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 29 2018 07: 12
      +4
      Quote: Clubfoot
      Ukraine is less and less like a state, walk the field.

      All that was inherited from the USSR was looted and destroyed .. The ataman of the nobleman no longer has a "gold reserve"!
      And all these hints that it was good under the German, this is a direct hint of Russia, join us faster, otherwise you want to eat and have no place to sleep .. hehe
      1. Mark9103
        Mark9103 April 29 2018 07: 43
        0
        "and then you want to eat and have no place to sleep .. hehe"
        I’d like to eat even more if Russia joins, remember the 1932-33rd, it is not surprising that many Ukrainians perceived the Germans as liberators, although for the Germans they were just free labor
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 29 2018 08: 02
          +9
          Quote: Mark9103
          I’d like to eat even more if Russia joins, remember 1932-33,

          It’s you who are hinting at the “Holodomor” he he he Familiar song ..!
          How do you like that?
          1. Mark9103
            Mark9103 April 29 2018 09: 45
            +2
            Where did you get these facts? The census was carried out in 1926m (31.1 million) and then in 1937m (26.4 million). Or will you prove to great-grandchildren that their own ancestors did not die of hunger? The decline of the population during the war all the more so short, almost inevitable. Moreover, in Ukraine there were large Jewish communities that were also part of the population, which were obviously destroyed, not without the help of the Ukrainians themselves, but this is another matter.
            It’s funny for most Russians to believe in something only when it’s beneficial to them ...
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 29 2018 10: 02
              +7
              Quote: Mark9103
              It’s funny for most Russians to believe in something only when it’s beneficial to them ...

              Do you believe whom and why ..? We are Russian "funny", only your "broadcasters in the media" are very much afraid of us for some reason hehe And the cries around the world go "Russian go!" laughing
              1. Mark9103
                Mark9103 April 29 2018 19: 39
                0
                I believe that I believe to be true, and I look at things with an open mind and coldly. "Our media" (even though I myself am Russian) do not yell. Nobody is afraid of Russia anywhere, except perhaps Poland and the Baltic states for obvious reasons. The rest of the NATO have nothing to fear. But the Russian media love to embellish the situation with articles such as "The US has no chance in a war against Russia." In a nuclear war, no one has a chance, and a non-nuclear war will be a simple mess with the senseless loss of millions of lives.
            2. demo
              demo April 30 2018 05: 26
              +3
              The funny thing is that most people have an amazing and convenient quality - to believe that they have a response in the soul.
              And he appears due to the fact that they have invested in their heads since childhood. In the form of knowledge.
              And it doesn’t matter whether it’s right or wrong.
              This applies to all Russians, Ukrainians, and Canadians (with Russian roots).
              For an impartial analysis, it is necessary to dump tons of archival documents.
              Carry out their analysis and only then draw a conclusion.
              And what should be the conclusion?
              Was there a mass hunger?
              How was he provoked?
              Who is the organizer (last name)?
              How many died?
              Guilty punished?
              These data were published in print.
              Output.
              There was no such mass famine.
              But this causes stubborn rejection by those who raised the banner of the struggle with Russia.
              You can discuss further.
              But the main criterion of confidence in Ukrainian propaganda is how they generally relate to the concept of "truth."
              If they have allegations that Donetsk and Lugansk are shelling themselves and the Ukrainian lads have nothing to do with it, then this is a measure of faith in words.
              If what happens literally today is turned and turned upside down, then such craftsmen can do anything with History.
              And to believe those who stood at the origins of the Orange Revolution is impossible by definition.
              The floods of lies shed by them in order to come to power and begin to tear their own state, in order to fill their belly, cannot but tune into a critical mood those who think with their own heads.
              All the nonsense that rushes from the pages of newspapers, magazines, books, which has surprised the world over the past 4 years, is a sign that it makes no sense to put history at the forefront as a symbol. She is used as a corrupt girl. Today it serves one (s). There will be others tomorrow. And they will "tweak" it for themselves.
              An example is the "honorable" service in the ranks of the SS.
              Today it is imposed as valor for ALL of Ukraine.
              Have you served ?!
              And who served?
              Mostly western Ukrainians.
              Those. who could never have been ranked among those who were at least somehow involved in the Russian world. And he did not live in Russia.
              Natives of the lower classes of Polish or Austrian societies. Peons and lackeys. With thinking just above the level of urban sewage. Poisoned animals.
              Those that live in garbage cans.
              Rats.
              Who, in their age-old powerlessness, saw the opportunity to become on a par or higher than those who commanded them for centuries, pushed around, and often simply globil, like cattle.
              For the word "bpd" is the Polish root. And it belonged to the very Ukrainians.
              That's the whole conclusion about the causes and effects.
              And then it will be like in a famous joke.
              "Tomorrow we are going on a campaign, the tribal leader says. We will go for a long time. There will be mountains and seas, wide stormy rivers and deserts. We will be attacked by warlike tribes. Our children will be eaten by predatory animals. We will experience inhuman torment. Not everyone will reach the final path. But those who come will envy the dead. "
              This is how I see the end of the Independent Ukraine project.
          2. Govorun
            Govorun April 29 2018 11: 56
            +3
            Why are you like this, he is clearly not ready for this, he will choke on another shmatka of fat from what he saw, drink it with a bottle of water and say with spray from the remnants of not chewed food ... THIS IS RUSSIAN PROPAGANDAAAA !!!
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 29 2018 12: 12
              +1
              Quote: Govorun
              Why are you like this, he is clearly not ready for this, he will choke on another shmatko of fat from

              They don’t even have their own fat ... Germany and Poland have captured everything! And they are forbidden to produce, even in the personal economy .. Here such things he he
        2. naidas
          naidas April 29 2018 12: 19
          +1
          Quote: Mark9103
          I’d like to eat even more if Russia joins, remember 1932-33

          Yes, thanks to Poland and the Czech Republic:
          The American newspaper "Ukrainian Schistennie Visti" in the issue of April 16, 1932 writes:
          "More and more details are being found out about the famine that swept dozens of villages in the mountainous part of Western Ukraine - Hutsulshchyna. Entire families are lying in rural houses that are swollen from hunger. Crowds of frozen, hungry Hutsuls are walking from village to village asking for bread and potatoes "Young and old people die from spotted typhus ..."
          On this day, in a conversation with the New York Times correspondent, one of the ambassadors of Transcarpathia, Ivan Kurtyak, said:

          “Journalists have not described the hundredth part of that poverty and misfortune. In the mountainous districts there are many villages where all the food of children is a small amount of oat bread and half-rotten potatoes. In fact, pigs are better fed in the courtyards of the land than those little creatures. In the whole districts since autumn people have not seen a piece of bread. As a result of malnutrition, tuberculosis has spread to an alarming rate ... In most villages, you will not see the light at night. Trains pass through a country of sad and dead, like a cemetery. "

          By the way, in the United States, they were imprisoned for anti-American activities for words about the American famine (than not article 58 in the USSR).
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 29 2018 21: 44
        0
        Just as there was a wild steppe before the “scoop”, it returned to its “roots” and it is correctly decommunization.
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 29 2018 06: 44
    +3
    Quote: Observer2014
    In Kiev: In the Hitler army, the Ukrainians were better than in the Red
    History has the property of repeating itself. It’s disgusting even to read everything. But there is, that is. And in many ways, therefore, I am anti-communist.

    But still "ist." smile
    And what is your not anti platform.
    Anarchist.
    Monarchist.
    Socialist.
    Is the capitalist finally?
  5. armourer
    armourer April 29 2018 07: 11
    0
    Those who do not honor the deeds of our ancestors - so knock !!!
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  7. volodya
    volodya April 29 2018 07: 33
    +8
    It is clear that the Ukrainians liked the army of the “possessed Führer” more, it was possible to rob not only their own people, but also other peoples, Belarusians, Poles, Jews! Now what? Quickly they dragged their country, but nothing more! We must continue to fight, and then scary!
  8. svp67
    svp67 April 29 2018 07: 36
    +3
    And these schooled for a year from the SS Galychin division fled in one day from the recruits of the Red Army.))))
    And it is true. Apparently there was German food in the “Ukrainian horse” ... There was one plus from feeding, they had more strength, they could run away .... It's a pity.
    By the way, the competition for a place in the Galicia division was SIX people in place ...
  9. Monarchist
    Monarchist April 29 2018 07: 53
    +2
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: Observer2014
    It’s disgusting even to read it all.

    But is it not disgusting?
    And further, the SBU of Ukraine reports that “Hitler was certainly a tyrant and an international criminal, but for his people and the peoples of the allied powers, he, unlike Stalin, intended to provide a better life. From the position of political pragmatism, the union of the Ukrainian state (???. Auth.) With Germany was justified. ” Unbelievable? But a fact.

    And now about the Jews. Quote: “Hitler and Stalin were not so different from each other in the“ Jewish question ”. The first advocated a “final decision” through the physical extermination of Jews. The second supported the idea of ​​their mass deportation to remote areas of the world to create the State of Israel there ”


    And in many ways, therefore, I am anti-communist.

    and what does anti-communism have to do with it? belay

    To tell you the truth, I also did not understand where does anti-communism go. There is an obvious clinic. Apparently, Vyatrovich from Durka "pulled", and the Comrade Observer did not understand her
    1. Kokarev Mikhail
      Kokarev Mikhail April 29 2018 11: 25
      0
      Good idea! If what is written "really" is comparable, then why create an independent Nazi Ukraine? Free her from the Nazis and "create" them a state where Hitler bequeathed!
  10. HAM
    HAM April 29 2018 08: 22
    +2
    How many Ukrainians do not feed, it still looks in your mouth! Nature, where Canada is sweeter there ... sorry Ukraine!
  11. Scud
    Scud April 29 2018 08: 35
    +2
    I don’t even know where there is more grief and misfortune-Vyatrovichi or hohlokastryulyagrylovye population?
    1. Curious
      Curious April 29 2018 14: 34
      0
      The pan-headed population is the biggest dream of the ruling elite of any country. Any. And for its formation, all available resources are used. The fact that the process yields results is evident from the regulars of the News section. One Meehan does not give in. But he rarely happens in our reality, does not have time to penetrate.
  12. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 29 2018 08: 40
    +2
    Vyatrovich is a real nerd. However, for the modern Ukrainian "ruling elite" this is already becoming the rule.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 29 2018 14: 22
      0
      Quote: konstantin68
      However, for the modern Ukrainian "ruling elite" this is already becoming the rule.

      hi
      Here you can argue. The current "top" in 404 is increasingly repainted as opponents of hetmanism. Recently, the odious "political scientist" V. Karasev thundered with maracas against the current regime, the independent, and now dill "political expert" O. Soskin noted himself in the confrontation to Waltzman. And these “conversations” are not in the kitchen with the curtains drawn, but in the media. So, as the tongue-tied "labeled" put it: "The process has begun."
  13. New Year day
    New Year day April 29 2018 08: 58
    +5
    Yes. Kovpak and Kozhedub in tombs turn over. Soon there will be a completely hostile state and a motivated population.
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 29 2018 09: 07
    +2
    Ukrainians were better in the Nazi army than in the Red Army
    Maybe we’ll continue to cry about the unfortunate “Ukrainian people”. Stop wiping your snot and calling for something to those who consider you an enemy. The slurred policy of Russia towards an openly hostile state was disgusted.
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  16. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev April 29 2018 11: 14
    +1
    But this is not out of Germans' love for Ukrainians - they only rationally used human resources, which were fewer than among Russians.

    Just a lie. At the beginning of the war, the population of the USSR was 200 million people, the population of European countries that attacked us was about 220 million people. Taking into account the occupied countries, whose inhabitants were also called up for German formations - 450 million people.
  17. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail April 29 2018 11: 19
    +1
    It feels like where a Ukrainian is good - there are no people there.
  18. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 29 2018 11: 22
    0
    Lost cherheized maydauny in time and history. Either praise, or hold emotion is the question? But sho z yima bude tomorrow, and the demon himself (their patron!) Does not really know. So they spun in place, like lice on a pin!
  19. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 29 2018 11: 31
    0
    Quote: Mark9103
    Where did you get these facts? The census was carried out in 1926m (31.1 million) and then in 1937m (26.4 million). Or will you prove to great-grandchildren that their own ancestors did not die of hunger? The decline of the population during the war all the more so short, almost inevitable. Moreover, in Ukraine there were large Jewish communities that were also part of the population, which were obviously destroyed, not without the help of the Ukrainians themselves, but this is another matter.
    It’s funny for most Russians to believe in something only when it’s beneficial to them ...


    You, most importantly, believe in your exclusivity, and do not panic because of a puddle! Or is all exclusivity worth it, how to rude others?
    1. Opera
      Opera April 29 2018 13: 04
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      The whole exclusivity is that they generally do not consider others to be people - they live like that! Mark (s) 9103, ..04, ... 05 etc. By the way, do not think too! So ... Use as needed.
  20. Govorun
    Govorun April 29 2018 11: 53
    0
    In Kiev: In the Hitler army, the Ukrainians were better than in the Red
    Yes, it is better to be rags, rugs, bedding than an independent flag of the country ...
  21. anjey
    anjey April 29 2018 14: 54
    0
    not to everyone - but to traitors, yes ...
  22. Slovak
    Slovak April 29 2018 19: 02
    +1
    I read, as if I touched the vile mucus
  23. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha April 29 2018 19: 07
    0
    Well, you asked for it yourself, but we can’t leave the fascist-Khokhlyatsk state at our side, all the more very aggressive and we will remember and catch all the Goebelshat.
  24. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 April 29 2018 19: 53
    0
    Well, he’s rightly saying: it’s forever better for the generous Ukrainians to feel among all occupiers.
    That’s interesting: if in 1812 Napoleon went to Moscow not through Belarus and Lithuania, but through Little Russia — would there be any supporters of self-sufficiency who would offer Bonet their services in exchange for “independence from Muscovites”?
  25. Hiller
    Hiller April 29 2018 20: 56
    0
    The little ones got out ... an abomination in human form
  26. fon46
    fon46 April 29 2018 23: 48
    +1
    1. The Germans, when pressed by the same, threw untrained recruits to the front to plug holes. Suffice it to recall the 14 year old boys with faustpatrons.
    2. The SS Galicia division entered the battle with the Red Army a year after its formation because all this year it was engaged in much more interesting things, for example, punitive operations in Poland and Belarus.
    3. In the Red Army, Ukrainians commanded the divisions of the army fronts. In Galicia, the division was commanded by the Germans, and it is right that a subhuman cannot command subhuman only representatives of the higher race.
    4. The first clash with the Red Army ended for these warriors with a crushing defeat of 15300 people who made up the division at the beginning of August 1944 from the encirclement near Brody, another 500 more broke out of the number of auxiliary units that joined them at the gathering place. The rest were killed or injured.
    5. In general, this phrase In the Nazi army, Ukrainians were better than in the Red one reflects the whole essence of Svidomo. They are always good among those who lose. Probably because they themselves do not know how to win, in principle, at the genetic level.
  27. Romanenko
    Romanenko April 30 2018 07: 01
    0
    And for the new heroes of ropes and aspens enough