Ukrainian-Turkish aircraft An-188

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Antonov officially presented the Ukrainian-Turkish design of the An-188 aircraft at the Eurasia Airshow exhibition in Antalya, reports bmpd.



According to the acting president of Antonov, Alexander Los, “the work on this program began about two years ago on the initiative of the Turkish side”.

The project minimizes technical and political risks by attracting the most advanced technological solutions, engines and equipment from leading world manufacturers,
he declared.

Elk noted that by now “part of the aerodynamic tests of the model of the new aircraft has been completed, the project is at the stage of detailed design”.

In turn, the director of the An-188 program, Vladimir Shmyrev, said that “a promising military transport turbojet aircraft with a payload of up to 50 tons thanks to a spacious cargo cabin, which exceeds the A400M and C-130J aircraft, it will be able to transport all types of military equipment, military and construction equipment equipment, helicopters, up to 300 soldiers, as well as humanitarian supplies, pallets and containers. ”

It is equipped for high-precision landing of soldiers, single-cargo ships weighing up to 21 tons, loads weighing up to 35 tons. At the same time, An-188 will have the opportunity to be based on various airfields, including unpaved ones, and land on short lanes of the entire length of 600-800 m,
added Shmyrev.

He also clarified that "Ukraine will make it (An-188) for 4-4,5 of the year."

Bmpd comment: “The An-188 aircraft project was first presented by Antonov GP in 2015 and represents, in fact, another variation of An-70 equipped with four D-27 propeller engines with four double-circuit turbojet engines (TRD), as which declared engines of production of joint-stock company "Motor-Sich" - D-436-148FM ".
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  1. +1
    April 28 2018 12: 53
    Interestingly, further presentation will go?
    1. +8
      April 28 2018 12: 57
      Quote: NEXUS
      Interestingly, further presentation will go?

      Kaneshna! Axis bach!
      1. +11
        April 28 2018 13: 13
        Despite the screamers broadcasting “the collapse of Ukraine”, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is developing quite well and gives out quite interesting developments to the mountain. This can be said about the Turkish military-industrial complex, for the needs of which 35 billion dollars have been allocated in recent years. I think they will succeed
        1. +6
          April 28 2018 14: 04
          It is not yet clear which way it is developing. All that is offered is a variation of the Soviet backlogs of 3--40 years ago.
          It is possible to offer, but in recent years one experimental aircraft for the Saudis has been assembled. With a glider from decommissioned An-26. I have a question regarding who will assemble the aircraft. There is a suspicion that aircraft models, so far only they manage to finish something and pass it to the customer.
          1. 0
            April 28 2018 20: 01
            Quote: Berkut24
            All that is offered is a variation of the Soviet backlogs of 3 - 40 years ago.

            Like "Armata" or "Su-35", is this not the use of Soviet developments of the indicated prescription?
            1. +1
              April 28 2018 20: 33
              No, these are fundamentally new solutions. New alloys, a new gun, a new automatic loader, a new chassis, a different crew location. Other management system. On the T-14, in general, everything is different. And Armata is not a tank. This platform is a combination of new technological solutions.
              As for the Su-35, they left only aerodynamics, airframe contours. Briefly: Other engines, another avionics, another cockpit, 70% different airframe materials, and inside the airframe noticeably changed.
              1. 0
                April 28 2018 21: 44
                Quote: Berkut24
                then left only aerodynamics, glider contours.

                Duc and Turks with the Ukrainians left only the glider and it’s not exactly the same as it was. Engines are different (even the quantity is different), Avionics is different, etc. As for the uninhabited tower and the placement of the T14 crew in an armored capsule, this was still being worked out under the USSR.
                1. +3
                  April 28 2018 22: 26
                  The Turks have not left anything. And Antonov, from whom one name of the aircraft was left, doesn’t. A mock-up converted from the AN-70 flies. Avionics, I think, is old. Turks are invited to invest in a new one. And so yes - the Su-35 was ripped off from the Wright brothers, podshamanil just a little and the stars drew.
                  As for the T-14, they worked it through. And now they have done on completely different principles. Like KAZ. Ideas are always over the edge, and doing is another matter.
        2. +2
          April 28 2018 14: 21
          Do you have an interesting development called the development of Alder with the help of Tornado painting? Or repair of the Carnation howitzer by sawing off a part of the barrel with a muzzle brake?
        3. +4
          April 28 2018 14: 29
          I don’t want to offend all Ukraine in vain at once, this is wrong. However, I will tell you boldly one thing - any undertakings of Ukraine in its present composition have already been buried and will not give offspring.
        4. +3
          April 28 2018 14: 30
          Quote: sefevi
          Despite the screamers broadcasting "the collapse of Ukraine", the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is developing quite well and gives out quite interesting developments to the mountain.

          Ukraine is turning into an agrarian state with cosmic speed. Where did the “interesting developments” come from on the farm?
        5. +1
          April 28 2018 15: 02
          The most interesting development without running-in, bringing to mind, and treating childhood diseases will remain only on Wikipedia.
          Is there now an opportunity for Antonov to modify the aircraft for several years?
          Are there any orders for this car, so that the design bureau lives, and the plane is upgraded.
          ... With all due respect to the past merits of the Design Bureau
        6. +3
          April 28 2018 15: 59
          Another divorce is now Turkish sucker ...
          The Turks are ready (in metal) An-188 vryatli see, because it is not known what will happen to the ruin in 4-4.5 years ...
        7. +1
          April 28 2018 18: 13
          Quote: sefevi
          Despite the screamers broadcasting "the collapse of Ukraine", the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is developing

          ========
          Well, to be honest, in the word "robust" - you should remove the prefix "not"!
          ---------
          Further in the text (article): ".... He also specified that" Ukraine will make it (An-188) in 4-4,5 years "....."
          Well, what can I say .... Unless: "God bless our calf, eat the wolf ..."!
          Well, what else to expect if the President of the Country said "To us Science NEED NOT! We need - WEAPONS !! "......
          It’s interesting, but how does HE (in the sense of "president") think of creating a weapon (also modern) WITHOUT science ??? "
          Can you explain, dear ?? And your humble servant knows the situation in Ukrainian science and technology not “by hearsay” and not by “Voice of America” .....
          That's it! If you DO NOT KNOW - better SHUSH! (At least - smarter!
    2. +5
      April 28 2018 12: 59
      404 has no rare-earth minerals and composite materials technology without which it is not possible to create a high-tech aircraft structure, even transport, a separate song about production facilities and the qualifications of designers and workers, galloped and squandered, all that they created was joint work in the drawings from the time the collapse of the USSR and early cooperation with the aviation bureau of Russia.
      1. 0
        April 28 2018 13: 07
        The designers there may still have stayed, but with the rest, yes, trouble. Well, here is the classical theory of air raid, first loudly declare the creation of something that has no analogues in the World, no, in the Universe, and then quietly watch.
        1. 0
          April 28 2018 14: 57
          And what about the front desk? Isn't she standing on the front? What new know-how?
      2. 0
        April 28 2018 18: 25
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        404 has no rare earth minerals and composite materials technology

        =======
        Yes, there is !!! More precisely - WAS (once upon a time, etc.).
        Well, everything else - Alas! TRUE!!!
        1. 0
          April 28 2018 21: 06
          In Stakhanov, there is a factory of ferro alloys, now the LPR, they are even doing something now !!!
      3. +2
        April 28 2018 22: 18
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        404 lacks rare earths and technology

        Ukraine has reserves of rare earth metals, the most popular of which are ilmenite, zirconium, rutile, hafnium and others. Volnogorsk MMC is a 100% miner and processor of these metals in Ukraine and takes 3rd place in the world in terms of the reserves of these metals.
        In Ukraine, the same ilmenite, rutile and zirconium in metallic titanium, a titanium sponge and ingots are the Zaporizhzhya Titanium-Magnesium Plant (ZTMK)
        Ukraine is also a major producer of metals of the titanium group, mainly titanium, zirconium and hafnium. The country is after South Africa and Australia in 3rd place in the world in terms of zirconium oxide reserves, estimated at about 4 million tons. In terms of production of titanium iron ore (ilmenite), Ukraine with its production volumes of 200-250 thousand tons per year is included in the top ten largest manufacturers. The country accounts for 95% of the reserves available in the CIS, and 9% of the global reserves of titanium ores - ilmenite and rutile. In recent years, the country has produced an average of about 8% of all titanium dioxide produced in the world. According to Ukrainian experts on the commodity market, the country is also the largest producer of hafnium, ranking 3rd in the world in its production
        Currently, four mines for the production of titanium iron ore, zirconium and hafnium are operating in Ukraine, located at the Stremigorodskoye and Malyshevskoye deposits in the Volnogorsk district (Dnepropetrovsk region) and Irshanskoye and Valki-Gatskovskoye (Zhytomyr region). Their annual productivity averages 4 thousand tons of ilmenite and other minerals. Along with manganese and iron, titanium is also an essential metal for the national economy.
        In addition to the above, in Ukraine there are also 7 deposits of titanium, lithium and beryllium. In addition, in Ukraine there are three lithium deposits - Polokhovskoye, Stankovskoye and Shevchenkovskoye.
        there are also deposits of lanthanides (though there are no Chinese processing facilities)
  2. +3
    April 28 2018 12: 55
    that "Ukraine will make it (An-188) in 4-4,5 years."

    Does anyone else believe that ..! They sell technologies there and are likely to be deceived .. There is already nothing in Ukraine that can be sold .. The armaments of the USSR are empty and everything else is looted and only for scrap .. hi
    1. avt
      +5
      April 28 2018 13: 07
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Does anyone else believe that ..!

      I believe! Will fly. BUT not in Turkey, but in China, where they are transporting more or less the remaining sane specialists from Antonov and Motor Sich to a city specially built for them.
      1. +1
        April 28 2018 18: 22
        Quote: avt
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Does anyone else believe that ..!

        I believe! Will fly. BUT not in Turkey, but in China, where they are transporting more or less the remaining sane specialists from Antonov and Motor Sich to a city specially built for them.

        Damn also believed .. hehe And the cities there in China are huge are empty and they will be sad there alone hi I am sure they will dream of a Russian hostel .. wassat
      2. +1
        April 28 2018 18: 27
        Quote: avt
        Will fly. BUT not in Turkey, but in China, where they are transporting more or less the remaining sane specialists from Antonov and Motor Sich to a city specially built for them

        ======
        Well, whoever has not left for China has left for Russia!
    2. +1
      April 28 2018 14: 00
      If the warehouses are empty, then with what they bombard the Donbass every day.
      1. 0
        April 28 2018 18: 27
        Quote: Vadim237
        If the warehouses are empty, then with what they bombard the Donbass every day.

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        Leftovers!
  3. +1
    April 28 2018 13: 00
    engines and equipment from leading manufacturers
    It turns out that only the glider is Ukrainian. But even in this case, it is difficult to believe in the implementation of this project.
    1. 0
      April 28 2018 13: 17
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It turns out that only the glider is Ukrainian.

      This is the ancient An-70, but with a different type of engine. Already much worse take-off and landing performance.
      They are trying to mow under Il-76.
      1. 0
        9 May 2019 12: 49
        Something does not show interest in the IL-76 in the world market!
    2. +1
      April 28 2018 13: 17
      The engine there may be from the MS. For MS is (at least for now) still the leading engine manufacturer in the world.
      1. 0
        April 28 2018 15: 09
        Quote: Equalized
        The engine there may be from the MS. For MS is (at least for now) still the leading engine manufacturer in the world.

        They keep on repairing junk and selling specialists (technologies) to China ... They produced something for Russia (helicopter), but Poroshenko cut everything off (even the special forces drove there).
        1. +1
          April 28 2018 15: 38
          That's not true.
          From 2014 to the present day, MS has been STABLE delivering TVZ-117 engines to the Russian Federation. Products go through Belarus. A few hundred engines a year for the average amount in the region of 200 million $.

          More people are working for MS today than at the largest similar enterprise in the Russian Federation (UMPO). Production is in full swing.

          In addition to the Russian Federation, engines go to China, India and other countries (not only technology). So while they are still an advanced enterprise.
          1. 0
            April 28 2018 16: 09
            Quote: Equalized
            From 2014 to this day, MS has been stably supplying TVZ-117 engines to the Russian Federation. Products go through Belarus. At several hundred engines per year for an average of $ 200 million.

            It is clear that Ukraine does not buy gas from Russia well and does not sell engines ..
            Quote: Equalized
            More people are working for MS today than at the largest similar enterprise in the Russian Federation (UMPO).

            Income for 2013 was $ 1,07 billion, in 2014 $ 680,5 million, in 2015 $ 576 million, in 2016 to $ 387,9 million in 2017, $ 589 million
            A part of the production has already been taken by meat grinders, juicers, boat motors ... But in the end, MotorSich is smoothly moving from production to the transport sector.
            Quote: Equalized
            So while they are still an advanced enterprise.

            Well, the authorities will not let them hold out for a long time and everyone understands this, therefore the outflow of key specialists and experienced personnel ...
      2. 0
        April 28 2018 18: 40
        Quote: Equalized
        For MS is (at least for now) still the leading engine manufacturer in the world.

        =========
        Well, if the TRUTH is to say - then he (in the sense of "Progress Motor Sich") has never been to them!
        There was One from the leading ...... Alas - this is already in the PAST !!! NGO - worked in cooperation with several hundred (!) enterprises of the USSR. Most of them are located in Russia and Ukraine! Relations with Russia-severed ... Most Ukrainian allies "ordered to live long" .... Then what? "Abroad will help us"? Yeah! Right now !!! Run away ...
        In the country going purposeful DESTRUCTION OF HIGH TECHNOLOGIES! What for? Yes, at least in order to clear the "market" for his (in the sense of "Western") trash! Think it (in the sense of "trash") they do not and never happen? laughing
  4. +1
    April 28 2018 13: 58
    Normally, Ukrainians do business with foreign customers - tanks, planes. Good groundwork. And under the USSR, industry was standard. I think that they will still invent a lot of new and reliable ones.
    1. +1
      April 28 2018 15: 12
      Normally, Ukrainians do business with foreign customers - tanks, planes.
      I'm shy to ask feel , and how many aircraft Ukraine released over the past 5 years ??
    2. 0
      April 28 2018 18: 42
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      I think that they will still invent a lot of new and reliable ones.

      =======
      Can you tell WHAT SUCH "new and reliable"for 25 years managed to" invent "??
  5. +1
    April 28 2018 14: 00
    Quote: sefevi
    Despite the screamers broadcasting “the collapse of Ukraine”, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is developing quite well and gives out quite interesting developments to the mountain. This can be said about the Turkish military-industrial complex, for the needs of which 35 billion dollars have been allocated in recent years. I think they will succeed

    Give an example, while I saw only repainted Soviet, but maybe I didn’t notice
  6. 0
    April 28 2018 14: 37
    It’s interesting with whom only Ukraine didn’t try to produce airplanes, and it was Turkey’s turn. Why not just buy all the rights to An-70 from Russia and start producing it, isn’t it all over again, because most likely Ukrainians need money?
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  9. +1
    April 28 2018 16: 00
    I wonder who they will allow them to do a direct competitor to am and the geyropeytsam?
  10. 0
    April 28 2018 16: 30
    "Ukraine will make it (An-188) in 4-4,5 years."

    This is the case if during this time the project "Tse Europe" does not finally glue the fins. Optimists, however.
  11. exo
    0
    April 28 2018 17: 58
    Engines from Motor Sich JSC are unlikely to please the Turks. After operation, Western engines. At least the D-436 on the An-148, are extremely far from perfect. This, I said very softly.
    And here, they can only offer a new version of the D-18. With electronic control option. The same case as the evolution of D-36, in D-436. Not the best way.
    1. +2
      April 29 2018 08: 55
      Quote: exo
      Engines from Motor Sich JSC are unlikely to please the Turks.

      In another article they wrote that they were going to put CFMs.
  12. 0
    April 28 2018 18: 17
    Here I do not believe the Janissary !!! But his grip is iron: Piglet thinks of a military bloc with the Janissary, and he (Janissary) is far from fighting for the interests of dill !!! Ukrainians grab what he needs, and bye-bye, see you soon !!!
  13. 0
    April 29 2018 19: 20
    Ukraine has reserves of rare earth metals
    Yes, but why do we need to buy from Canada to Kyrgyzstan