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What prevented France from launching missile strikes on Syria?

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Technical problems and the failure of the deadline to derail two-thirds of the sea-based cruise missiles carried out by the French Navy against Syrian targets 14 of April, the blog Imperia-MIR.


What prevented France from launching missile strikes on Syria?


“For the latest MdCN cruise missile, a deeply modified marine variant aviation the SCALP cruise missile manufactured by MBDA, these firing were the first combat use, ”the resource writes with reference to La Lettre A.

According to the information, "unexplained equipment failures prevented the FS Aquitaine frigate from firing from any of its MdCN launch vehicles, and then the same fate befell the second frigate, FS Auvergne."

According to the publication, these facts may indicate "a computer error or a programming error."



MdCN missiles frigate type FREMM (presumably Languedoc) French Navy, 14 April 2018 g.

The rocket manufacturer and the French Navy declined to comment.

Help resource: "The French Navy pre-deployed three frigates FREMM - FS Aquitaine, FS Auvergne and FS Languedoc - in the Eastern Mediterranean, allegedly off the Israeli coast. These ships were first equipped with MdCN, and each of them is equipped with a vertical Sylver A70 launcher (16 MdCN).

The French plans included launches from two of the three frigates (the third reserve) with a volley of "more than three" missiles. However, only FS Languedoc was able to shoot three missiles at a given time interval after the commander of the mission’s leading ship, FS Aquitaine, reported that the launch was disrupted. ”
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 28 2018 12: 32
    +11
    Or just drifted ... the thickness of the rectum is of the wrong diameter.
    1. Don
      Don April 28 2018 12: 38
      +5
      Rather, they changed their minds about shooting so many. Otherwise, how to explain that one frigate was able to shoot, and the other two were not? request
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko April 28 2018 13: 07
        +6
        Quote: Donskoy
        was the din frigate able to shoot, but the other two not?

        The American does not need competitors in the arms market. Similar situations have been encountered more than once in the case when French systems tried to interact with the US. Not to mention the means of communication of the French company Thomson (Thales), which were in service with Saddam Hussein and at the signal of the United States all failed at the time of the operation "Desert Storm".
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 28 2018 13: 34
          +7
          What prevented France from launching missile strikes on Syria?
          Macron dandruff ... Trump cured him ...
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 April 28 2018 13: 59
          +7
          ... at the signal of the USA, everything is out of order ...

          Apparently our frequency of the "magic" signal of the United States studied. bully
          Indeed, what could be better than non-launching missiles? hi
          1. Lelek
            Lelek April 28 2018 19: 56
            +2
            Quote: Alex777
            Apparently our frequency of the "magic" signal of the United States studied

            hi
            The most interesting thing is that the "mad dog" turned to Russia with a request not to deliver the S-300 to Syria, because then Syria will bring down Israeli planes attacking and bombing government forces of this very Syria. The hypocrisy is beyond.
    2. Maz
      Maz April 28 2018 12: 43
      +3
      Voices slander that employees of the Foreign Intelligence Service and the foreign department of the KGB-FSB-filled all the cafes around the offices after all this evil fell safely anywhere in Syria.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 28 2018 12: 48
        +3
        What prevented France from launching missile strikes on Syria?

        I think this dude .. hehe

        Our Russian ancestral memory is well developed ...
      2. Don
        Don April 28 2018 12: 56
        +1
        Rumor has it here and there, their toothless old ladies are blowing everything home ... wink
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 28 2018 19: 45
          +2
          Quote: Donskoy
          Rumor has it here and there, their toothless old ladies are being carried home.

          hi
          Exactly on the basis of rumors from the “white helmets” and polemics in “youtube”, attacks were made on a sovereign country - a UN member. Here is the "ForeignPolicy" about this lawlessness:
    3. Hire
      Hire April 28 2018 12: 47
      +6
      "Unexplained hardware failures prevented the FS Aquitaine frigate from firing from any of its MdCN launchers, and then the second frigate, the FS Auvergne, also suffered the same fate."

      laughing I remember when once on the Emba our “start-ups” did not launch one rocket through their fault, the error was attributed to the “pickers”, because this did not reduce the overall assessment of the work of the regiment.
    4. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don April 28 2018 12: 55
      +5
      From the time of Napoleon, France suffered a computer malfunction in the nation’s program, and they have never been independent in foreign policy, they always attack in droves, but they love to cling to other people's merits.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 28 2018 12: 56
        +3
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        From the time of Napoleon, France had a computer malfunction in the program of the nation, and they were never independent in foreign policy,

        It is believed that the warlike spirit of the Europeans disappeared in the year 45 ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 28 2018 14: 02
          +5
          Quote: NEXUS
          It is believed that the warlike spirit of the Europeans disappeared in the year 45 ...

          Not. Until 1953, the Naglichites still believed in Dropshot. At the beginning of events in Vietnam and the French, all sorts of illusions disappeared
    5. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 28 2018 13: 51
      +2
      Yes, they just didn’t want to shoot, but at least how to bend under the USA was necessary. So they released 1 \ 3.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 28 2018 15: 26
        +2
        And remember last summer, the British strategic missiles after launch went towards the United States. And remember last year, the Americans were not able to send all the missiles to Syria. This is our "holy spirit" working
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 28 2018 12: 38
    +3
    So still shot? Well, then it’s clear why Trump so tenderly patted Macron on the shoulder. All the same, they didn’t get anywhere. wassat
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 28 2018 12: 58
      +10
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      So still shot? Well, then it’s clear why Trump so tenderly patted Macron on the shoulder. All the same, they didn’t get anywhere. wassat

      It is somehow "funny" when you are sitting on the sofa, and there is silence around. Even in shelter, shelling in the immediate vicinity creates an unpleasant experience. And here they came, fired a volley ... One ghoul came to visit another, there they shook hands with him for 30 seconds, shook off dandruff ... And if some Onyx or Dagger had flown into the otvetka? So, as in the video with the old Syrian ship? Who would have laughed then?
      Americans are considered "subhuman" by all who are not American. You will look back at a very recent epic from the DPRK, with plans to strike at North Korean territory. As soon as they didn’t pour mud on both the DPRK itself and its leader. Why is there such silence now? Why are we Russians only hearing insults addressed to us, subjected to provocations and “expressing concern”? The answer here is visible without optics: in power are dependent on the accumulated, stored and invested abroad dollars, foreign real estate and other family affairs (study, business, one-time witnesses, etc.)
      It is disgusting to read and listen to the heresy every day, which covers the massacres and destruction legitimized by the law of the strongest for the sake of black, ugly subhuman people. You look at these faces distorted by anger and hatred. While the enemy is alive, we can’t sleep peacefully.
  3. APASUS
    APASUS April 28 2018 12: 39
    +3
    It’s just that at that moment Trump wasn’t around, confidence was disappointing
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 28 2018 12: 40
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      It’s just that at that moment Trump wasn’t around, confidence was disappointing

      Blow off dust particles from jackets.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 28 2018 12: 40
    +8
    thwarted two-thirds of the salvos of sea-based cruise missiles carried out by the French Navy
    And the triumphant Macron's relay did not differ much from admiration for his blow to Trump. Political clowning amid international lawlessness. Messrs. Bourgeois began to play.
  5. Azazelo
    Azazelo April 28 2018 12: 51
    +1
    disgrace. It would be better if they were silent at all.
  6. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 28 2018 13: 00
    +3
    This is almost the norm for the French.
    Moreover, as practice shows, stable.
    “In 1995, the Ariane 5 rocket was destroyed in an explosion just 5 seconds after launching from the Kourou Cosmodrome, French Guiana. The preparation of the project cost $ 39 billion, there was another $ 8 million worth of equipment on board. And the reason for this was the unwillingness to develop completely new software and the use of the inertial navigation system from Arian 500. As a result, programmers forgot to make changes to the calculation of the trajectory taking into account the data of the new ship, and at the 4th second the data overflow occurred in the computer, the critical computer error and 30 seconds later - self-destruction . "
  7. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 28 2018 13: 15
    +6
    According to the information, "unexplained equipment failures prevented the FS Aquitaine frigate from firing from any of its MdCN launch vehicles, and then the same fate befell the second frigate, FS Auvergne."

    Inexplicable, how so ...
  8. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha April 28 2018 13: 20
    +1
    And we thought that the tubers in the pants after a bear illness.
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 28 2018 13: 28
    +3
    They had a narrow time interval for shooting. There everyone fired simultaneously from three seas.
    The French did not have time to fix the system, but when it was set up, it was too late.
    1. demiurg
      demiurg April 28 2018 15: 13
      +6
      Not too many scalp crashes?
      I pulled from one good forum:

      "Failed debut for MdCN

      The French navy preliminarily deployed three FREMM frigates - FS Aquitaine, FS Auvergne and FS Languedoc - in the Eastern Mediterranean, allegedly off the Israeli coast. These ships were the first to be equipped with an MdCN, and each of them was equipped with a Sylver A70 (16 MdCN) vertical launcher.

      French plans called for launches from two of the three frigates (the third reserve) in a salvo of “more than three” missiles, military journalist Jean-Dominic Merchet reported in the online newspaper L'Opinion on April 17, citing naval sources. However, only FS Languedoc was able to fire three missiles at a predetermined period of time after the commander of the mission’s lead ship, FS Aquitaine, reported a launch failure.

      Comment by Imperia-MIR
      This information confirms the deplorable results of the combat use of the latest and essentially the only non-nuclear strike missiles of medium and long range French Armed Forces.
      Note that according to the reports of our own sources, the story with the use of the French SCALP air force of the French Air Force is even more complicated: due to an unconfirmed "banal error in programming the targets and flight profile", 7 out of 10 missiles went down to a height "corresponding to a mark below sea level "and were destroyed when they hit a water surface, 2 engines failed after a few minutes of flight (the zone of impact is unknown), 1 didn’t leave the APU and was dropped for safety reasons in a predetermined zone before the fighter landing. This information explains the words of the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry about the unrecorded participation of the French Air Force in attack operations against the ATS and explains why the French Defense Ministry specified only 1 target for allegedly 2 successful SCALP missiles in the HOMS region, and as the target of the remaining 7 missiles speaks simply about " bunker "without specifying a specific target and its location.
      "
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 28 2018 19: 00
        +1
        Thanks for the interesting info! good
    2. Sneaky Urus
      Sneaky Urus April 28 2018 15: 49
      +1
      What does a narrow time interval have to do with it? Before launching, the coordinates of the target (for the inertial) and the digitalized image of it for the Scalpa thermal imaging seeker are introduced into the rocket.
    3. Waddimm
      Waddimm April 29 2018 07: 27
      +3
      Road spoon for dinner?
      And so of course. Missiles are good, smart and beautiful, they just don't fly when necessary. Personally, I am pleased with such missiles from the enemy.
  10. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 28 2018 13: 36
    +7
    I suggest to read this Old during all May holidays in the morning and in the evening on 10 times to all "bewildered" persons; that is, those who were perplexed and perplexed: why Russia is sending so many new weapons to Syria .... they say there is nothing to send ..... to test ..... it's so expensive! Maybe after that they will understand that if not check the weapons in Syria, then in the case of a serious mess: "pan or disappeared" ... and with Russian weapons the same x ... garbage can happen as with French ... fool
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 28 2018 14: 09
    +4
    Unexplained hardware malfunctions prevent frigate FS Aquitaine

    Honestly, I had heard something like this before about Leclerc. It seems to me that the West generally relies excessively on electronics and software. Moreover, other countries have weapons, which are designed to multiply these "unexplained failures." I had never thought before that a third of the Tomahawks might fail like that.
  12. Old26
    Old26 April 28 2018 19: 57
    +1
    Quote: Hire
    I remember when once on the Emba our “start-ups” did not launch one rocket through their fault, the error was attributed to the “pickers”, because this did not reduce the overall assessment of the work of the regiment.

    Well, to dump the "best" option. They say we are not to blame, that's all of them.
    And as comrade Donskoy wrote
    Quote: Donskoy
    Rather, they changed their minds about shooting so many. Otherwise how to explain that one frigate was able to shootand the other two not? request

    What are these failures that did not allow to shoot. Link to a computer error or programming error I think is not consistent. The distribution of goals was general, as were general programs.

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    So still shot? Well, then it’s clear why Trump so tenderly patted Macron on the shoulder. All the same, they didn’t get anywhere. wassat

    Shot. 3 from the frigate and 9 out of 10 from the Rafale ...

    Quote: ROSS 42
    And if some Onyx or Dagger had flown into the otvetka?

    What kind of dagger could it fly? The one that is not in service yet? And did the Syrian Onyx get to these frigates in general? And what, is it so difficult to fix a missile going at an altitude of 14 km, and then shoot it down?

    Quote: Livonetc
    This is almost the norm for the French.
    Moreover, as practice shows, stable.
    “In 1995, the Ariane 5 rocket was destroyed in an explosion just 5 seconds after launching from the Kourou Cosmodrome, French Guiana. The preparation of the project cost $ 39 billion, there was another $ 8 million worth of equipment on board. And the reason for this was the unwillingness to develop completely new software and the use of the inertial navigation system from Arian 500. As a result, programmers forgot to make changes to the calculation of the trajectory taking into account the data of the new ship, and at the 4th second the data overflow occurred in the computer, the critical computer error and 30 seconds later - self-destruction . "

    Well, for starters, the Arian 5 began flying in 1996. As for the accident, so what's so unusual. Or do others have nothing of the kind? So our "Proton" in the eyes of all residents of the country committed somersault and e ... sorry, crashed into the ground a few seconds after the start. And also not empty. The very cost of the rocket and launch services, plus three satellites ... We had problems with the sensors. So the French are not alone in this regard. In addition, the Arian-5 is a fairly reliable missile. Of 98 launches, only two emergency
  13. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad April 28 2018 22: 13
    +2
    The winners of fascism however!
    1. CYM
      CYM April 29 2018 22: 36
      +1
      These "winners" had time to fight for both sides, now it’s not particularly accepted to recall this. winked
      The battle between the Vichy squadron and the British squadron at the port of Mers al-Kebir in July 1940.
      The 638th French infantry regiment fought with us near Borodino in November 1941.
      The Vichy forces and the navy put up active armed resistance to the British-American invasion of North Africa in November 1942.
      The mainly composed of the French SS division "Charlemagne" was among the last defenders of the Reich Chancellery in 1945.
  14. Monarchist
    Monarchist April 29 2018 07: 30
    +1
    "to a computer error or a programming error," what again does Vova play pranks ?!
  15. CYM
    CYM April 29 2018 21: 55
    0
    IMHO For the French with a fleet of good weather starting from Trafalgar, as well as for Russia after Sinop. In this case, it looks like they were just hacked. Who made this an interesting question, ours could (hello Mistral), Americans could (because you can produce your own missiles). winked