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Where to study the "golden youth"? .. London squeezes Russians out of education

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British private education on the background of deteriorating relations between the countries loses its attractiveness for the Russians, reports RIA News statement by the representative of the Russian Embassy in London.


Where to study the "golden youth"? .. London squeezes Russians out of education


Earlier, British media reported that the number of students from Russia in schools in the United Kingdom over the past two years has decreased by almost 40%.

Against the background of deteriorating relations between the two countries, the anti-Russian campaign launched here, the British private entity loses its appeal to Russians,
said the diplomat.

Children from the Russian Federation are reasonably afraid to get into Britain in an unfriendly environment.

This is an important factor for Russian families when choosing a place to study children. From those who continue to study in English schools, comes information about various politicized polls and anti-Russian statements of teachers - this does not make learning more comfortable,
told the representative of the embassy.

In addition, London, “unlike other European countries, refused to recognize Russian education documents,” he added.

Thus, the British authorities, by their actions, are detrimental to education in the country, the diplomat concluded.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii April 28 2018 09: 34
    +12
    But to whom it is worse. Education costs money how much they lost, while others gained.
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder April 28 2018 09: 40
      +38
      In Russia, you need to raise your education. So that was something to be proud of in the future of Russia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 28 2018 09: 48
        +8
        Well, get a liberal howl! Well, their benefactors want to offend !!!
        Or will they keep quiet in a rag, such as a benefactor and yap bottom-za ???
        1. ioan-e
          ioan-e April 28 2018 10: 06
          +18
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, get a liberal howl!

          I don’t know about you, but a liberal howl caresses my ear like a lullaby! Because if the liberals are howling, then we are doing everything right!
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 28 2018 10: 10
            +6
            but sometimes you need to throw boots at them lol
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 28 2018 11: 08
              +4
              Roma hi
              Quote: novel xnumx
              but sometimes you need to throw boots at them lol

              Where to study the "golden youth"?
              Well, here in our school in Gadyukino it’s not bad, though we have rains here .... request
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 28 2018 11: 18
                +1
                Kolya, hi hi You might think there is no rain in England!
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN April 28 2018 11: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  Kolya, hi hi You might think there is no rain in England!

                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  but sometimes you need to throw boots at them
                  I say boots will come in handy everywhere, but in Gadyukino it’s so general to the topic ... yes
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 April 28 2018 11: 26
                    +2
                    and, in spite of the enemies, footcloths! to wind and wind!
                  2. Nikolay Fedorov
                    Nikolay Fedorov April 28 2018 11: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    Kolya, hi hi You might think there is no rain in England!

                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    but sometimes you need to throw boots at them
                    I say boots will come in handy everywhere, but in Gadyukino it’s so general to the topic ... yes

                    Have you ever tried to take your boots back after you threw it? I always did just that in the army. And that way you can’t save any boots ...
              2. Nikolay Fedorov
                Nikolay Fedorov April 28 2018 11: 54
                +1
                Quote: NIKNN
                Roma hi
                Quote: novel xnumx
                but sometimes you need to throw boots at them lol

                Where to study the "golden youth"?
                Well, here in our school in Gadyukino it’s not bad, though we have rains here .... request

                Is the school roof leaking?
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN April 28 2018 11: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
                  Is the school roof leaking?

                  I answer, we are fighting with the whole collective farm for the title of the best university among the British.
                  1. Nikolay Fedorov
                    Nikolay Fedorov April 28 2018 11: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
                    Is the school roof leaking?

                    I answer, we are fighting with the whole collective farm for the title of the best university among the British.

                    It seems that you graduated from the Gadyukinsky school of international relations. Only diplomats can answer questions in this way. hi
                    1. NIKNN
                      NIKNN April 28 2018 12: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
                      It seems that you graduated from the Gadyukinsky school of international relations. Only diplomats can answer questions in this way.

                      hi
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 April 28 2018 10: 12
            +3
            The identity does not upset me, just that, from the word at all!
            You need to restore your education!
          3. volodya
            volodya April 28 2018 10: 32
            0
            It turns out our goldsmiths, in the sense of this youth, will remain illiterate? It’s not in Russia that the aunts are learning unhappy for them? Or maybe somewhere in Africa?
          4. dima9990
            dima9990 April 29 2018 06: 22
            +1
            You won’t tell a ray hi
        2. rkkasa xnumx
          rkkasa xnumx April 28 2018 10: 27
          +1
          Will receive education in other countries of the West. Or they will be prescribed by their teachers, foreign schools will be opened even more here in Russia.
          In any case, it is doubtful that the "gold" will be infringed on something.
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 28 2018 09: 53
        +9
        Quote: dog breeder
        In Russia, you need to raise your education. So that was something to be proud of in the future of Russia.

        But it’s not bad at all with us .. Rather, our people are talented and inquisitive! And money is not the main thing for us, if only they would not interfere with our creativity and invention ..
        And all sorts of oxfords, etc. these are the show-offs, as it turned out now and the children of our oligarchs and corrupt officials are studying there for prestige .. That I don’t remember any of our scientists, economists working in Russia or abroad, etc. proudly declaring that he studied in the west ..
        Our youth with OUR education has achieved the latest achievements in science and technology!
        A lot of youth are now in different research institutes, etc. works .. And God forbid that in the future it was like that ..
        1. Galleon
          Galleon April 28 2018 12: 29
          +1
          Vitaly, you can’t recall, because such things are not news and not at the hearing. I knew one well-bred young man who graduated from the Sorbonne. This university imposes an imprint of nobility, if a person has it. Well, the knowledge is impeccable, who wants to learn. One drawback, this young man was not from the "golden" youth, not even from the "silver". Now the priest.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 28 2018 14: 35
            0
            Quote: Galleon
            I knew one well-bred young man who graduated from the Sorbonne. This university imposes an imprint of nobility, if a person has it

            That's what they teach there ..!
            Quote: Galleon

            One drawback, this young man was not from the "golden" youth, not even from the "silver". Now the priest.

            It was pride that tortured him .. I understand? He had seen enough of them from the heart of these beasties kids ..
            Now his soul saves .. And I understand him! hi
      3. Basil50
        Basil50 April 28 2018 09: 54
        +11
        What are you really?
        People have sorrow, and sorrow is that neither the nouveau riche nor their children are even accepted as members of the * golden billion *. And they were promised that for the money they would be able to become * the elite *, but here they are not even accepted as ordinary gentlemen. Neither themselves nor their offspring.
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        2. Samosad
          Samosad April 28 2018 10: 06
          +6
          Real lackeys - those who want to dominate, many of them, having fulfilled their dream, now represent the Russian elite ... If you do not smear a turd with chocolate, this will make it tastier and real
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 28 2018 10: 01
        +3
        Quote: dog breeder
        In Russia, you need to raise your education. So that was something to be proud of in the future of Russia.

        Right. Moscow State University, MGIMO, Bauman, and so on ... our institutions are no worse than Yelsky or Harvard, and maybe better.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 28 2018 10: 19
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS
          Right. Moscow State University, MGIMO, Bauman, and so on ... our institutions are no worse than Yelsky or Harvard, and maybe better

          Here the tricky question of prestige played a role. As, however, very controversial ranking Universities work-basedissued within the walls of the university on English language.
          A lot of children study in Britain from those who simply work in Britain, and are not related to sanctions lists.
          But on the whole and in general, in most cases, the proverb “Where he was born, there it fit” works. And many of our compatriots end up in eminent firms and offices without studying in foreign universities.
          There are opposite examples - Yushchenko and Saakashvili studied together, esessno not in Ukraine or Georgia. There they were marked by special services, picked up and heated, warmed up and returned to the Fatherland with certain goals .... lol
        2. volodya
          volodya April 28 2018 10: 39
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: dog breeder
          In Russia, you need to raise your education. So that was something to be proud of in the future of Russia.

          Right. Moscow State University, MGIMO, Bauman, and so on ... our institutions are no worse than Yelsky or Harvard, and maybe better.

          They are differently offended, our diplomas do not want to recognize, and they are not going to work with us!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 28 2018 10: 45
            +3
            Quote: volodya
            They are differently offended, our diplomas do not want to recognize, and they are not going to work with us!

            It is clear that in itself the presence of a recognized diploma is a good safety net when finding a job for highly qualified specialists. But the nostrified “crust” of MGIMO or Moscow State University in the eyes of a Western employer, as a rule, does not differ much from a diploma of any other university - abroad they are far from being quoted as high as in Russia. The highest chances to surprise foreign HR with their diploma are among the “techies”: MIPT graduates still inspire respect in certain circles, where they remember the achievements of Soviet science.

            It is useful for those who want to pursue an academic career to know that a diploma of a large state university combined with foreign internships and publications in foreign scientific journals makes a good impression. Another practical option is partnership programs with foreign universities that provide double degrees: for example, at the Higher School of Economics you can at the same time become a graduate of the Sorbonne or the University of Bologna, and at the MGIMO you can get an MBA from the University of Geneva. In other cases, the university does not play a big role - the practical experience of the job seeker is much more important.

            At the same time, graduates of our elite universities are in great demand in the West, as one specialist who graduated from the same Moscow State University is able to replace more than one specialist who has studied at Western universities.
        3. helmi8
          helmi8 April 28 2018 11: 31
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          Right. Moscow State University, MGIMO, Bauman, and so on ... our institutions are no worse than Yelsky or Harvard, and maybe better.

          And there’s nothing to argue about. It is enough to recall the cries of the liberals about the brain drain. Why do they take ours, and not their Oxford, Harvard? Have you thought about this? And in Soviet times, our engineers were much more educated than their highly specialized ...
      5. taiga2018
        taiga2018 April 28 2018 10: 20
        0
        Quote: dog breeder
        In Russia, you need to raise your education. So that was something to be proud of in the future of Russia.

        and for this, among other things, it is necessary to ban Russian officials and deputies of all levels from sending their children to study abroad, these parasites should have an incentive to improve Russian education, even if they count on their offspring ... the same applies to health care .. .
      6. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum April 28 2018 10: 48
        +5
        Where to study the "golden youth"?

        It is advisable to flush the "golden youth", "children" of the new Russian "elite", together with this "elite" (this word should not be applied to the authorities and privatizers at all, otherwise the concept is distorted). After all, that the powerful enemies of the Russian people invented, they want to do their hereditary power. Or who does not know where these "elite" offspring are and what they do? In which state corporations and government agencies are preparing to manage the "flock".
        Nobody has yet canceled class hatred; the blood of this pseudo-elite is needed to pacify the people.
        Better to start cleaning from above, because from below it will be worse for everyone.

        Do you speak social elevators? Oh well...
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 28 2018 11: 14
          +1
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Do you speak social elevators? Oh well...

          Well, colleague, a social elevator is, nevertheless, for general use. yes For those organisms that you mentioned, there is a social spaceport. fellow
      7. Lelek
        Lelek April 28 2018 12: 26
        0
        Quote: dog breeder
        In Russia, you need to raise your education.

        hi
        In Russia, education is at a fairly high level, but from private "higher schools" and "universities" issuing "stamped documents" at the rate established by them, it is necessary to get rid of the most radical method. The “mitrofanushki” they released are at least a dime a dozen, and this is fraught with industry, and for health care, and for education, and for the country's image as a whole. And in the Western colleges and universities of their children send mostly nouveau riche-temporary workers who do not see the future in their homeland. yes
      8. Alizi
        Alizi 19 May 2018 22: 25
        0
        everything is true ... in reality it is only here and it can be ....
  2. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 28 2018 09: 35
    +9
    Alleluia! Finally, it begins to happen! Maybe at least 1/6 of the Earth will not dibilize the population, as in the West. I hope so! However, the current Russian authorities are unlikely to allow this.
  3. dojjdik
    dojjdik April 28 2018 09: 35
    +8
    don’t do hell there in these Cambridges and Oxwords or some kind of thing-in your country you need to learn to work and have children, where you were born there and come in handy
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 28 2018 09: 53
      +5
      Quote: dojjdik
      no hell to do there in these cambridges and oxwords


      If only because students are an irrepressible, unbridled tribe, constantly looking for adventures on their ass. And in such cases, get caught on an organized MI-5 / MI-6 cook as two fingers on the asphalt. But then these charged studios return to Russia. And it
      do we need
  4. Storming the Washington
    Storming the Washington April 28 2018 09: 36
    +2
    nothing to learn there No.only if Harry wanted to sign up for a loss bully a normal citizen wouldn’t go there to study earlier, much less now
  5. Coconut
    Coconut April 28 2018 09: 36
    +10
    And rightly so, that they are squeezing ... let them study at home ... they hate our country over the hill in children and when they return home the country receives the 5th column ... No.
  6. Berkut154
    Berkut154 April 28 2018 09: 40
    +8
    Somehow even joy takes for these decisions. Not gloating, but at least someone is fighting our corruption. In general, it doesn’t matter where they study and how rich the young and what will happen to their money in foreign banks. Let them all wring them out and drive them all out.
  7. The point
    The point April 28 2018 09: 42
    +2
    Here it is! London, goodbye! But what about the fat herds of British scientists? Who will replenish them?
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 28 2018 09: 58
      +2
      Quote: Maksud
      Here it is! London, goodbye! But what about the fat herds of British scientists? Who will replenish them?

      In our educational institutions, there is a hunt for young talents and the task of the state is to prevent them from luring or stealing them .. The West has always lived at the expense of others, including scientific thought .. We teach them, we trust secrets, and they hop already abroad ! This is scary men ..
  8. Lerych
    Lerych April 28 2018 09: 45
    0
    The "English scientists" will now have more time for "scientific" research.%) We are waiting for the "discoveries"!
  9. Nix1986
    Nix1986 April 28 2018 09: 47
    +1
    There are a lot of universities in Boston with rising prices, this is certainly not an ivy league, but education is valued throughout the world.
  10. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 28 2018 09: 47
    +2
    Nothing will happen to the golden youth. Let them study at home, our education is no worse, maybe even better. So here if dad pays the loot, so at least his own.
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 April 28 2018 09: 58
      +2
      Are you another tanker ???? which education is better ?! Have you seen the modern mass graduate ?! I have 2 towers, K.E.N. and there is a Western education, where there was no time in the world when the question of education came up, our tower and a scientific degree were not interested. Less are still taught in the tops of Moscow or St. Petersburg, further 95% is slag.
  11. cedar
    cedar April 28 2018 09: 50
    0
    What can the Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors teach Russian youth?
    Cunningly and promoting their anti-Russian interests in Russia, which London considers only as its COLONY. And all his Russian scholars, as officials of the colonial administration and agents of influence, and no more.
    See at the root, dear. For London, Russia is a colony.
  12. Million
    Million April 28 2018 09: 50
    +1
    The fact that the so-called golden youth is going to study abroad does not honor our education!
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 28 2018 10: 00
      +4
      Quote: Million
      The fact that the so-called golden youth is going to study abroad does not honor our education!


      The point is not in education, but in the show-offs of "golden youth" and dad-nouveau riche
  13. Simon
    Simon April 28 2018 09: 51
    +3
    London, "unlike other European countries, refused to recognize Russian education documents," he added. - That's good! Now all our smart youth will remain in Russia and will boost our economy. wink good
    1. Million
      Million April 28 2018 09: 56
      +1
      the golden youth will not raise the economy, not for this they studied ... alas
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 April 28 2018 10: 02
        +2
        Quote: Simon
        Now all our smart youth


        Quote: Million
        golden youth will not raise the economy


        Feel the difference. Smart - will raise, "gold" - is unlikely.
  14. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN April 28 2018 09: 51
    +2
    Britons something completely off the coils ... But how about "Do you want to conquer the country, bring up her children!" ???
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: RUSLAN
      Britons something completely off the coils

      I will say more, the WHOLE world is crazy, it’s scary to travel outside Russia, only values, reason and justice are left here ... What’s in hohland, what’s in the geyropu, what if you go to the Americans, how do you get to the moon, stupid people live there alone, seriously!
  15. askort154
    askort154 April 28 2018 09: 53
    +3
    How good it went! Recently, the West has been stubbornly helping Russia get rid of the sores of the 90s. He helps to fulfill the Russian proverb - "where he was born, there he came in handy."
    But they, of course, pursue something else - to raise the "rebellion" of officials and the newly-made class of the rich.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 51
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      But they, of course, pursue something else - to raise the "rebellion" of officials and the newly-made class of the rich.

      Herein lies Putin’s cunning plan, he makes it so that every decision of our enemies is to our advantage and to their detriment !!!! At the same time, all our decisions only make us stronger. The world is changing right before our eyes, for a couple of decades, and Russia will become fundamental on the planet Earth, only the blind can not see this ... God forbid Putin for many years !!!
  16. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 28 2018 09: 54
    +1
    Actually, this is not reasonable for the British themselves, because the outflow of our students from their educational institutions sharply lowers the world rating of the country and these very institutions. Therefore, the British volley in their future! And our youth need to be true patriots, and study at home! Here, then, work for the good of Russia.
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 28 2018 09: 54
    +6
    Learning is needed in advanced countries, but not for managers. It takes time (maybe for a state account) for engineers, chemists, technologists, physicians, etc.
    1. freddyk
      freddyk April 28 2018 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Learning is needed in advanced countries, but not for managers. It takes time (maybe for a state account) for engineers, chemists, technologists, physicians, etc.


      To live with such professions is not in Russia. The manager lives well in Russia.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 28 2018 10: 27
        +1
        You can’t go far on managers ...
        1. freddyk
          freddyk April 28 2018 11: 02
          0
          So we do not go)))
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 28 2018 10: 28
      +2
      You need to sleep in ...... in advanced countries .... (maybe at the state expense) for engineers, chemists, technologists, doctors, etc.

      It’s right to unlearn these specialties and stay abroad, as everyone else does, because in Russia with education in the above specialties, you will be in the category of “low paid” .....
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 28 2018 10: 31
        +1
        It is right to build production and train specialists for it and then pay them for this work (this can be done in different ways) and give them an interesting job.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 28 2018 10: 49
          0
          It is right to build production and train specialists for it and then pay them for this work (this can be done in different ways) and give them an interesting job.

          Yeah. Only, here in Russia there are completely different "trends" .... I remember I happened to be at a shipyard in St. Petersburg in the mid-2000s, so at it, my specialized vocational school was converted into a ..... hostel for "gaster ".... wink
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 28 2018 11: 06
            +1
            Are we talking right? You can also attract educated Gaster. This is also a way out.
  18. Click
    Click April 28 2018 09: 55
    0
    Where to study, where? ... at home !!! yes
  19. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 28 2018 09: 55
    0
    Where are the human rights defenders. Where human rights activists are against discrimination. Where is Bulk.
  20. bald
    bald April 28 2018 09: 55
    +2
    Children educated abroad are potentially dangerous for Russia. (there are of course single exceptions). Having inherited positions - the goals are one, making profit, the collapse of Russia, but for the people, so they have already decided to study there.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 38
      0
      Quote: bald
      Children educated abroad are potentially dangerous for Russia. (there are of course single exceptions). Having inherited positions - the goals are one, making profit, the collapse of Russia, but for the people, so they have already decided to study there.

      Lavrov knows about this ??? Comrade, for society you are dangerous .. or rather for a rational society, but as a herd, so it is)))
      1. bald
        bald April 28 2018 11: 16
        0
        What, lit?, Or at a side job?
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 April 28 2018 14: 59
          0
          Quote: bald
          What, lit?, Or at a side job?

          And what do you say for Lavrov? Or think one step towards the program is not laid down?))
          1. bald
            bald April 28 2018 16: 05
            0
            Normal man.
    2. reservist
      reservist April 28 2018 13: 02
      0
      And are children who have not received a normal education at home not dangerous?
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 28 2018 14: 58
        0
        Quote: reservist
        And are children who have not received a normal education at home not dangerous?

        Nabrot-go to the army! Enemy at the gate, if you didn’t notice, we do not need silver carp, but fighters. There are no mathematicians in the republics of the Caucasus, but fighters from God. That's who we need !!!
        1. reservist
          reservist April 28 2018 16: 25
          0
          here's something that is hard to believe that a girl with a photo will go to the army ... although what the hell is not joking ...
      2. bald
        bald April 28 2018 16: 09
        0
        What are you talking about ? An article about something else.
        1. reservist
          reservist April 28 2018 16: 24
          +1
          after reading the phrase
          Children educated abroad are potentially dangerous for Russia

          I remembered the graduates of our medical universities who received diplomas for bribes ... they are really "doctors" really dangerous ...
          although maybe you’re right, the “golden youth” doesn’t really break into medicine ...
          1. bald
            bald April 28 2018 19: 39
            0
            I completely agree, "good" if only for the money they’ll sow.
  21. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 28 2018 09: 56
    +4
    Again, everything is far-fetched. The decrease in the number of Russian students in the UK was not due to “anti-Russian sentiment,” but for a very banal reason — Russians do not have money for the rather expensive education and accommodation of their children in the UK. Those who managed to seize some money in the 90s, early 2000s, calmly weaned their children there. And the rest, against the backdrop of a constantly worsening economic situation in Russia, simply cannot make the money that you need to spend every year to educate a child in the UK.
  22. Alex66
    Alex66 April 28 2018 09: 59
    +1
    Fools can defeat us only by deception and flattery, which they did to the USSR. Introducing sanctions, they rally us, transferring them to combat mode. In their place, you need to export to London, the USA, Berlin ... all our talented youth, give them scholarships, grants, feed them with a spoon and leave them to work there. And without competent specialists, Russia will be bent in 20 years. And our elite, so as not to die in 20 years, you need to do the same and even more not only talented, but also everyone who wants to learn and feed.
  23. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov April 28 2018 09: 59
    +2
    Do not care for them, anyway, they won’t work here
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 36
      0
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      Do not care for them, anyway, they won’t work here

      Don’t say it. Children of officials, that there, then here are the heads of the board of directors of large holdings of banks, joint-stock companies, etc. Lavrov's daughter returned ... she took up art here)
  24. Moskovit
    Moskovit April 28 2018 10: 02
    0
    It seems that Britain has entered into a secret pact with Russia. Sanctions on the oligarchs, creating an uncomfortable environment for our thieves, squeezing their kids out of education. So much useful! May go on!
  25. eugraphus
    eugraphus April 28 2018 10: 07
    0
    What a chic chance to answer in a mirror way - not to recognize English diplomas in Russia.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 35
      0
      Quote: eugraphus
      What a chic chance to answer in a mirror way - not to recognize English diplomas in Russia

      Wisely, the real way to bring the whole West to its knees !!!!
      1. eugraphus
        eugraphus April 28 2018 12: 54
        0
        On knees? The whole West?
        Just answer the mirror separate attacks of the British, putting the golden youth in certain conditions.
    2. reservist
      reservist April 28 2018 13: 04
      0
      Did they really admit to us?
  26. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 April 28 2018 10: 10
    0
    In the history of Russia there are many episodes when Western engineers and technologies had to buy for gold. Yes, we have advanced science, and rightly so, the GDP at the recent summit of university rectors said, “we need to introduce new developments into life.” Russian youth should be able to study over the hill. And even to have state scholarships, subject to return and "working out" Nobody will dispute the fact that management in the West is organized much better than ours, and we have something to learn. And the recruitment of students by Western intelligence agencies is already the prerogative of the FSB.
    1. eugraphus
      eugraphus April 28 2018 13: 07
      0
      Russian youth should be able to study over the hill. And even have state scholarships, subject to return and "working out"
      Golden youth for whom rich parents pay? They have the conditions of return and "working out"? Yes, you, my friend, are an optimist.
  27. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket April 28 2018 10: 11
    +1
    unrecognize English education certificates laughing
  28. Altona
    Altona April 28 2018 10: 14
    0
    Quote: Samosad
    many of them, having realized their dream, now represent the Russian elite ...

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    Is the Ukrainian elite somehow different? And is it not someone in Helety in Britain who bought the castle for 27 million pounds?
  29. Altona
    Altona April 28 2018 10: 18
    0
    Quote: Oleg Vatnik
    unrecognize English education certificates

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    Many of the English achievements are greatly inflated and promoted, covered with a touch of romanticism. All this was done during the late Soviets with the aim of rapprochement with the West. Schools told us a lot about British traditions, advised us to read the most boring knightly novels about the "valiant knight Aivengo" and "Rob Roy". But when I read Louis Bussenard's “Tear Off the Head” and a number of other novels and short stories, the same “Prince and the Pauper,” for example, the charm of England was gone.
  30. Yves762
    Yves762 April 28 2018 10: 18
    0
    And if you estimate ... what
    Squeezing the "elite" back to Russia, increasing the concentration of it in a limited volume of the country, with a deterioration in the quality of removal of "excess heat"; the application of a fair "external pressure", etc. - all this will lead to an excess of the "critical mass" with the subsequent "chain reaction" and "explosion".
    There is some kind of core right, not a cunning plan ... wassat
  31. Simon
    Simon April 28 2018 10: 23
    +1
    Quote: Lerych
    The "English scientists" will now have more time for "scientific" research.%) We are waiting for the "discoveries"!

    So the British, and so very smart, just figured out how to get rid of our "not smart youth"! laughing fool wink
  32. Semen1972
    Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 33
    +4
    Let’s understand that people whose children study in London don’t yell at every corner about Americans, about geyropa and so on. These are not locksmiths who watch Solovyov in the evenings, but the farthest trip, this is to their country house. People with wealth understand that TV is a sheep’s noodle, they don’t watch zombies. I myself often visit Europe in my work ... so there it doesn’t care what country you are from. On their TV it is very difficult to find news about Russia. The only reason for reducing the flow of students is the Euro rate ... And for those who sit on the grandmothers of the state ... well, for example, a deputy-megapatriot Zheleznyak - so even three children study in the West.
    Well, as an agitation, the article will go. And a lot of comments with "this is how you need it, if you don’t be friends with Russia and don’t lick Putin, then you all will be khan and bend right tomorrow," many pluses are waiting for theirs. I’ll ply myself, because the West is evil, a geyropa, girls are raped and soon will fall apart. For nefig, we are the coolest in the WORLD !!!
  33. Simon
    Simon April 28 2018 10: 37
    +1
    Quote: Million
    the golden youth will not raise the economy, not for this they studied ... alas

    Well, then, "hell with them!" laughing wink
  34. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu April 28 2018 10: 39
    0
    In England, a mediocre education. Why go there specifically to study? If for a diploma to go abroad to live only
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 10: 46
      +1
      Quote: Beltasir Matyagu
      In England, a mediocre education. Why go there specifically to study? If for a diploma to go abroad to live only

      Oxford, Cambridge, Birmingham and are not suited to Voronezh State University, whose specialists successfully promote science around the world. It is high time to ban the admission of English and American students to our universities. Only our friends can get the cheapest and the best education in the world ... and vice versa, make free education for students from Bolivia, which regularly supports us at the UN. Yes, and the language, it is obvious that our language is more interesting than English, and soon the world will speak it, the language of Putin !!!
  35. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 28 2018 11: 00
    0
    In fact, there is no need to go anywhere behind the "English education" (at the "college" level). it can be obtained with distance learning (alas, also not free, but much cheaper than when living in England). This is distance learning at Open University UK and more. There would be a desire and knowledge of the English language .... http://www.open.ac.uk/, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Open-University-
    British-education, https://www.distancelearningportal.com/articles/2
    94/10-top-uk-universities-ideal-for-distance-lear
    ning.html wink
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 14: 05
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      In fact, there is no need to go anywhere behind the "English education" (at the "college" level). it can be obtained with distance learning

      But how to learn a language and speak without an accent, get married / get married there, get a job there and live in a stable and successful world? I think these fools think so!
  36. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 28 2018 11: 12
    +1
    Who can announce the entire list of their training ... apparently very necessary, in the vastness of our country ??? Do not tell me your "Oxford" education ... Where and which of them really lit up in the scientific, or high-tech areas ... AT LEAST ONE SPRAY from the golden youth ??? At parties party stoned ??? They attach themselves to the budget by a relative after training, and quickly become successful entrepreneurs (son of Matvienko, for example) ... Oh yes, like rappers and other trippers ... well, there is no market. Without protection, they piss and piss harder than the joint and bagels of the Bentley to keep them from the rest of the list of normal "products". One only reassures that an immense freebie will definitely lead to degradation and degeneration. You can’t buy the brains of sales for a very large amount of money - the flag is in their hands. What’s being done, and our English partners have suspended the supply of spare parts for Rolls Royce and Bentli - I’m sitting in a tavern, and my tears are crying. wassat
  37. igorra
    igorra April 28 2018 11: 14
    0
    The Naglosaks are doing their best to become the next recipients of Russian lyuli.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 13: 26
      0
      Quote: igorra
      The Naglosaks are doing their best to become the next recipients of Russian lyuli.

      Nuclear ash is waiting for them !!!
  38. impostor
    impostor April 28 2018 11: 20
    +1
    It’s kind of violet, we have different social elevators with them, I never used elevators myself, all that I achieved was walking along the flights of stairs.
  39. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 28 2018 11: 33
    0
    Children from the Russian Federation are reasonably afraid to get into Britain in an unfriendly environment.

    "Children from the Russian Federation" study in the Russian Federation.
    In addition, London, “unlike other European countries, refused to recognize Russian education documents,” he added.

    It's time, let the deuces get from Russian teachers.
  40. Alizi
    Alizi April 28 2018 11: 33
    0
    The good news ... the beginning of the collapse of English education as an idea ... real education is only possible in your own language ...))
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 11: 47
      +2
      Quote: Alizi
      real education is possible only in their own language ...))

      How can pilots fly abroad if their education is only in Russian? Although I agree for a locksmith in Uryupinsk, education in London will be evil !!!! Specify, for what specialties, it is sooo important !!!
  41. engineer74
    engineer74 April 28 2018 11: 50
    0
    It's simple, our "elite" sends children to study in Britain and the United States with one goal. Through the "childhood" friendship it will pour into the old Western elite, but they will not let our people go there, and they will not let them go. There is no other purpose in the "prestigious" Western education. Now this makes no sense, soon a Harvard diploma will be equated with a CIA certificate. Parents know how to count money, hence the outflow of students. And everything else is a "thought on wood"! hi
    IMHO
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 28 2018 12: 27
      0
      Quote: engineer74
      Through the "children's" friendship, it will pour into the old Western elite, but they will not let our people go there, and they will not let them go

      Ahh .... here Zheleznyak is a fool, does not understand, what every member of the forum here easily explains ... I always thought that we had a State Duma)))
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 April 28 2018 12: 47
        +1
        And how is Zheleznyak, in principle, different from the rest? The goal of the entire "elite" is one power and money. And who says something for this - God is their judge.
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 April 28 2018 13: 25
          +1
          Quote: engineer74
          And how is Zheleznyak, in principle, different from the rest? The goal of the entire "elite" is one power and money. And who says something for this - God is their judge.

          If the whole "elite" has such a goal .. you can ask, I understand correctly, these are special people, nonhumans and geeks ... Choose ordinary people in power and in the country a completely different life will be incommensurably better?
          1. engineer74
            engineer74 April 28 2018 13: 49
            0
            People are all the same, the effectiveness of the fulfillment of their responsibilities depends on the conditions created. You just need to add a measure of responsibility or gratitude to the previous chosen one in the election bill.
            IMHO
            1. Semen1972
              Semen1972 April 28 2018 14: 52
              0
              Quote: engineer74
              You just need to add a measure of responsibility to the election bill.

              Is the choice of the same president with the same team with different castles is not a recognition of the right of existing elites to life?
              1. engineer74
                engineer74 April 28 2018 15: 10
                0
                All this happens within the framework of the current system, which so far suits everyone. But I, for example, do not consider the system ideal. Always strive for excellence.
  42. bsk_una
    bsk_una April 28 2018 12: 40
    +1
    I would say where to study "wealthy youth." But the status does not allow. And on the other hand, to send such children to the most seedy and broken school, about which their dads and mothers forgot.
  43. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 April 28 2018 13: 38
    +1
    gdp has long offered to return the children of ministers
  44. net0103net
    net0103net April 28 2018 13: 52
    +1
    I hate the golden youth - an abominable tribe to disgust.
    1. Victor19
      Victor19 April 28 2018 17: 04
      +1
      Young people are different. Maybe she thinks about you too
      Quote: net0103net
      disgusting disgusting tribe.
      1. net0103net
        net0103net April 28 2018 17: 47
        0
        I live in Moscow, I am very familiar with this city ... with its "sights".
        All the golden youth here are divided into two types - the former do not understand that they are enemies of their own people, and the latter understand. Here the second ones just think about you, they think a lot about what. For their thoughts, it’s time to shoot them right in the afternoon: in major clubs, where you definitely won’t go if you are a bright and educated person; in foreign cars that have already been paid for with your lives and your future; at resorts where you do not go for a regular salary; at work, simply because they occupy a leading place for you without any benefit and always receive, besides theirs, half your salary; just on the street, because of their nitroevascularity it simply makes you sick; and just like that indiscriminately, because such a person will not come in handy in your life if you create benefits in this state, and not just spend them without any measure. Therefore, those of them who think about you, in every way cares that the retribution for the golden origin does not occur during life. And those who don’t think about you do not always take care of this, and therefore he’s scorching himself and scorching his whole office, from daddy to distant relatives and contacts abroad. And they also have many other interesting thoughts, rest assured, you think how to survive in this world, and they think how you still manage to do this and what other profit you can get from your pocket. Such are their thoughts. And they do not doubt their choice and are afraid of only one thing that they will be stopped by a shot in the forehead or in the back of the head. But we have a different choice, therefore - who we should consider ourselves and how to live, so that there wouldn’t be then ... hopelessly annoyed for a bullet that was not issued in a timely manner in the right direction ...
  45. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 28 2018 14: 00
    0
    It’s also since Peter that they have brought fashion to study abroad! Where are we gray and marsh? So how much water has flowed into the English Channel since? And what has changed in the heads of the type of elite?
  46. Romanenko
    Romanenko April 28 2018 14: 47
    +1
    In general, with the "local" education you need to decide.
    Somehow, at the beginning of perestroika, our dear foreign “partners” declared our diplomas inconvertible and after that actively proceeded to the destruction of the education system in the post-Soviet space as a whole. This process, alas, is still ongoing — secondary education was made lower than secondary, the USE was introduced, secondary special was practically “defeated”, and higher education was inaccessible to a large number of people.
    Here, of course, against the backdrop of what is happening, the ruling elite became worried - what if something happens, well, there’s a coup d’etat, or dad and mom get turned and can’t pay off, but what else is happening on our Olympus, the children need a foreign diploma so that they they comfortably settled there at the "partners" and calmly lived on their honestly plundered parents. Well, not about that now.
    It seems to be, according to rumors from the government, they nevertheless thought there that they had allowed a lot of “partners” to mock the education system. And in the current situation, the country can suffer greatly from the lack of personnel, both workers and engineering. And not from a quantitative indicator, as you understand.
    Somewhere out there in our low clouds they nevertheless begin to think, already well.
    Well, now it’s time to apply sanctions to the “diplomas” there - to equate them to courses or something. Well, that is, you wanted the Sorbonne diploma, but for God's sake, only here it is a piece of paper of a beautiful color, and that’s it!
    And if you are a young man with ambitions and in the future you see yourself as a civil servant in a responsible post, so try and get our local education in the corresponding university, it will be fair, once the officials decided not to take those who did not serve in the army, and did not study in our Universities also do not take.
    And then everything will gradually fall into place, but with paid types of education you need to finish.
    Russia is very rich in talented, but alas, poor people.
    It’s not their fault, but it’s their misfortune and the misfortune of the entire state.
    Therefore, while the majority of the population lives either very close to the baseboard or below it, the percentage of “paid” students in universities should not exceed 5%.
    Of course, you can argue with me, but I didn’t write for the argument, it was just before my eyes that they all ruined it with some gusto, quite different premieres of life and ruling, and their vice accomplices in this process.
    It's time to take up the mind, in every way and in every sense.
  47. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 28 2018 16: 07
    0
    Oh no no no! What trouble, ambush and problem. The essence of the discussion in all talk shows, the intercourse of experts from Russia and other US-Poles - here is bad luck - Deripaska did not finish the sausages! This is - in short. And if you ask the country a question - does it make sense to strip Deripaska to a state of at least sausages (leaving the skin) - for the welfare of the country - who called against? That's right, shareholders, and many of them we know.
  48. Wolka
    Wolka April 28 2018 16: 26
    0
    it’s absolutely all the same to these ...
  49. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 28 2018 16: 26
    0
    "What the hell is London" ... the "gold" was just lazy ...
    1. Victor19
      Victor19 April 28 2018 17: 01
      +2
      Previously, there was a mandatory training in the specialty for three or how many years there. This should remain and be sure to be fulfilled.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 28 2018 17: 05
        0
        Quote: Victor19
        Previously, there was a mandatory training in the specialty for three or how many years there. This should remain and be sure to be fulfilled.

        Work off? ... But where can you find so many premiere seats, or, at worst, the chairman of the board of directors? ... The Zolotoys want to be masters of life ... It’s a pity that they are not in Permanent residence in Landan ...
  50. Vanko
    Vanko April 28 2018 17: 05
    0
    In addition, London, “unlike other European countries, refused to recognize Russian education documents,” he added.
    Thus, the British authorities, by their actions, are detrimental to education in the country, the diplomat concluded.

    I have a question. In which country do British authorities harm education? what lol