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What does the Syrian Express carry?

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Photos of the ship "Kyzyl-60", following to Syria, appeared on the Web. On board are Ural-4320 all-terrain vehicles.


What does the Syrian Express carry?


The photos were posted on Twitter by a Turkish blogger who tracks ships through the Bosphorus Strait.



“Military experts say that cars are painted in sand color. Previously, this was hardly noticed; the equipment was in the green camouflage that was familiar to us. Cars "Ural - 4320" are currently among the most popular in Syria. They are used to deliver personnel, ammunition, military equipment ", - writes Messenger of Mordovia.



Machines are also used as artillery tractors. They are equipped with a variety of weapons, including anti-aircraft guns of various calibers, including 100-mm.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 27 2018 15: 12
    +12
    Caravans are coming, and the dogs are barking! We will give them a “chemical attack” to hell! Now they wish ..
    1. BZTM
      BZTM April 27 2018 15: 27
      +13
      One thing pleases, finally not the BDK. Enough to ruin their resource, useful for business. There are barges. wink
      1. seti
        seti April 27 2018 15: 46
        +32
        But the ship itself is extremely shabby. I note that we carry out long-term transportation of a wide variety of goods. Why, why not designed and used for its intended purpose, a vessel like a container ship or a marine self-propelled barge with a large capacity and carrying capacity. Approximately 20-30 000 tons. On it at a time you can bring a huge amount of the necessary cargo and not chase these dwarfs performing unusual work.
        The BDK were echoed, the Turkish bulk carriers too. And the conclusion is obvious. Auxiliary ships for roughing are needed. There is a Bay plant in Kerch - this is his profile.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey April 27 2018 15: 49
          +20
          Quote: seti
          There is a Bay plant in Kerch - this is his profile.


          in 27 years, they sold it all for metal as well as ship repair ... talked in the 14 year ... how they will restore then there will be a mover ..
          1. hrych
            hrych April 27 2018 17: 02
            +13
            Quote: vorobey
            how to restore then there will be a mover ..

            Time to collect stones laughing
            Quote: seti
            But the ship itself is extremely shabby

            Help to get started
            A civilian dry cargo ship of Chinese construction, designed to carry general cargo. The vessel is equipped with two lockable sliding steel covers with dimensions of 19,31x12,60 m and 25,95x12,60 m with a height of 8,14 m. The dry cargo ship can also be used for container shipping - the vessel's capacity is 327 containers (20 feet ). The dry cargo ship "Tong Xing" was built at the Jiangsu Yangzijiang Shipyard (serial number 3271), Jianying, China, in 1996. Renaming of the vessel: "Tong Xing" until January 2004, "F. Camellia" until October 2008, "Messenger K" until December 2010, "Avatar" until February 2014, then "Smyrna". The vessel "Smyrna" under the flag of Vanuatu (IMO: 9149952, MMSI: 577212000) with home port - Vila port, owner - Troy Shipping & Tourism, Istanbul, Turkey, was purchased by the Russian side from the owner in 2015. Joined the Black Sea Fleet in early autumn 2015, with the renaming of "Kyzyl-60", home port - Sevastopol.
            Those. not so old, a proven workhorse. Judging by the time of purchase, it was specially purchased for the Syrian express, its condition should not be judged by the unpainted case, it was bought not for girls with low responsibility, but for business. The time will come to paint. Well, they didn’t give us the nonsense Mistrals to pick up, which the Express lacks so much and which many have blamed for, so we had to urgently overlap what is. There’s nothing to get to. Let people work at last and take Syria completely. There will be production on the shelf, there is oil, as in Kuwait, we will buy new bulk carriers and we’ll leave in socks from Versachi wassat
          2. seti
            seti April 27 2018 17: 08
            +3

            Quote: vorobey
            in 27 years, they sold it all for metal as well as ship repair ... talked in the 14 year ... how they will restore then there will be a mover ..



            So maybe it's time to get it back on track? There are big docks, they haven’t disappeared anywhere, and the equipment can be ordered at our special enterprises.
            It is high time to establish the production of civilian products for shipping. And as for the political component. It’s time to lay down on someone else’s opinion.
            1. Seaflame
              Seaflame April 28 2018 00: 37
              +1
              And in the Crimea they will give to build? Large cargo ships are full of foreign components. Will they be delivered to the Crimea or will there be stories like with Siemens turbines again? I would like the "Bay" to be reborn ...
            2. Spez
              Spez April 28 2018 00: 52
              +3
              So maybe it's time to get it back on track?

              Damn, but before that they were silent? And so, yes, we’ll tear all asses off the sofas here, and we’ll rush to return them directly with torn asses.
        2. BZTM
          BZTM April 27 2018 15: 50
          +3
          BDC
          Do not rub salt on the wound ...
          And the conclusion is obvious. Auxiliary ships for roughing are needed. There is a Bay plant in Kerch - this is his profile. [/ Quote]
          And where are they, auxiliary Kerch ships? hi
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 April 28 2018 00: 51
            +2
            And where are they, auxiliary Kerch ships? hi
            The plant is being restored.
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 27 2018 17: 09
          +3
          Quote: seti
          But the ship itself is extremely shabby

          Lack of paint affects driving performance.
          1. seti
            seti April 27 2018 17: 13
            +4
            It's not about painting. And in the amount of tonnage transported. We need to transport it a lot and after Syria there will probably be Libya or other goals / objectives. So special vessels of high performance are needed. Yes, and their purely civilian goods need to be transported.
            These are jobs and new orders.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 27 2018 17: 15
              +3
              Quote: seti
              It's not about painting.

              Then why was it worth remembering?
              1. seti
                seti April 27 2018 17: 20
                +3
                Return to my original text. I wrote primarily for the tonnage being transported. A battered case is a statement of fact.
                It is clear that it is important that the ship carries the necessary cargo and not how and how it is delivered. But you can make one or two walks and not 20 in a shorter time. And the main thing is to transfer all the overall cargo in one go at once and not in parts. With uv.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker April 27 2018 17: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: seti
                  it is important that the ship carries the necessary cargo and not how and how it is delivered. But you can make one or two walks and not 20 in a shorter time. And the main thing is to transfer all the overall cargo in one go at once and not in parts. With uv.

                  It is difficult to find a free tonnage capable of carrying heavy equipment, both in the holds and on the deck and the covers of the holds.
                  Ideally, these are roller skaters. But they are very expensive.
                  The second option is station wagons / container trucks. In this case, an unkilled steamer is required. And it is also desirable to have heavy cranes for unloading on an unequipped shore. Etc. etc.
                  Remember what MO purchased through intermediaries at the end of 2015? Killed Turkish bulk carriers - we then discussed this topic at VO.
                  1. jjj
                    jjj April 27 2018 18: 01
                    +5
                    Friends, please note that only sides above the waterline are shabby. And look at the deck of the superstructure very well covered with a primer. So, the boatswain team does not chew snot. And its sides are low, it is not convenient to paint in the gazebos on the go. In the parking lots, it turns out, no, but the crew does not mean idly staggering
                  2. Seaflame
                    Seaflame April 28 2018 00: 39
                    +3
                    Under the USSR there were gorgeous skaters like "Captain Smirnov", two-pipe beauties developing phenomenal speed for a merchant ship. Oh ...
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker April 28 2018 00: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Seaflame
                      gorgeous skaters like "Captain Smirnov", two-pipe handsome

                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Former "Ermoshkin" Engineer

                      Sisterships. The third was "Captain Nikolaev".
                  3. seti
                    seti April 28 2018 09: 09
                    0
                    Here I am about the same. Yes there was a topic they said ..
                    It is possible to rivet catamaran-type self-propelled sea barges or the same rollers. All come to this one. I would like to see the Gulf return a big name and delight with quality products. Our Crimea. And since ours is then necessary to invest a lot of money in his factories, jobs are needed there, otherwise the people doing nothing is bad.
                    1. Alex08061968
                      Alex08061968 April 28 2018 18: 51
                      0
                      Please calm down! Everyone who needs to go there, don’t be nervous ... here are the links, there are ports of call, where you can see that the ships are on the Novoross-Tartus line and there is no need to make noise if not really in the subject ... Good luck!
                      http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid
                      = 2714585
                      http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid
                      = 1460117
                      there is still everything in the public domain
            2. Dr. David Livesey
              Dr. David Livesey April 27 2018 17: 28
              +2
              Thank!!! We still lack Libya to complete happiness, do not go crazy ...
        4. Victorio
          Victorio April 27 2018 17: 39
          +1
          Quote: seti
          But the ship itself is extremely dilapidated.

          ====
          add-in is nothing like. 96-year-old vessel, in the fleet since the fall of 15, the hull in the dock will be painted and the norms.
        5. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 April 27 2018 20: 20
          +2
          In all large armies, such express transportations are carried out by leased container carriers, bulk carriers, and others from civilian companies. There is no need to strain and buy such carrier ships for the Russian Defense Ministry. These are temporary needs. In ten years there will be another hot spot, another type of transport may be needed there, maybe railway or air ... Even for NATO transportations our super-heavy planes of civilian companies (Ruslans) lease ... For a big war, these bulk carriers are unnecessary, because we will do not attack yet. and defend themselves, and overseas suppliers are not visible, and they will not be allowed to walk freely on the seas ......
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 27 2018 21: 04
            +5
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            In all large armies, such express shipments produce leased container ships, bulk carriers, and others from civilian companies.

            This is an emergency method when it is required to transport simultaneously a large amount of cargo and l / s during the period of the military crisis. As an example, we look at the actions of the British army and navy during the conflict with Argentina over the Falkland Islands.
            The richer countries have in reserve (on the sludge) canned vehicles bought "on the occasion" and reserved for the same emergency. As an example, I saw in the port of Houston at the pier of the US Navy a former skater of the type "Engineer Ermoshkin" (or its sistership), painted with ball paint and renamed to "Wheat". It was one of the most modern roller skaters in the NMP, built in the mid-80's. In addition to him, there were also vehicles equipped with arrows with a carrying capacity of up to 20-30 t. And it does not matter that they are built by 60-70's. They are always ready to transfer equipment to the desired region. And as part of the US fleet, there are a lot of tank landing ships and other auxiliary fleets.
            The auxiliary fleet was with us. I saw in Murmansk several ships under the flag of the Navy of the USSR, originally built as a series of the Pioneer of Moscow type. Everyone saw this type of ship in the video, where an emergency bathyscaphe was launched from it when trying to rescue the crew of the Kursk nuclear submarine. But it was a long time ago. There are no others, but those are far away ...
            1. Alex08061968
              Alex08061968 April 28 2018 19: 00
              +1
              Yes, these gas turbines with an eye on the war and built, but ... the country fell apart, and they:After the collapse of the Soviet Union, all four Rocker went to Ukraine and were privatized. Not knowing how to dispose of honestly acquired property, their owners sold four huge handsome companies to Global Container Lines and Marianna Shipbuilding Ltd. In 2001-2002, three of them ended up in a scrap yard in India. The remaining "Vladimir Vaslyaev" joined the ranks of the US Navy.
              High-speed transportation of supply is an excellent tool for warfare on foreign shores. A few days after receiving the order, “Captain Smirnov” would have lowered his aft ramp to the berth in the port of Tartus, and a hundred or two armored personnel carriers with armor heavily covered with paratroopers would slide down from it under the caressing Mediterranean sun. High-speed roller skaters can be successfully used for the delivery of important cargoes - several C-300 divisions may move instead of armored cars to the shore, for example.
              Here everything is about them https://topwar.ru/18367-sovetskiy-korabl-v-sostav
              e-sil-bystrogo-reagirovaniya-vms-ssha.html
        6. Olegi1
          Olegi1 April 27 2018 23: 31
          0
          IMHO, a quick and relatively inexpensive solution is to order ships from the Chinese and / or South Koreans. Our shipyards are loaded, but they are really inexpensive and well built. It does not mean refusing to develop its capacities, but if here and now it is a way out, IMHO.
      2. Thrall
        Thrall April 27 2018 15: 50
        +5
        Quote: BZTM
        One thing pleases, finally not the BDK. Enough to ruin their resource, useful for business. There are barges. wink

        All also go and BDK:

        Orsk

        Nikolay Filchenkov
        1. BZTM
          BZTM April 27 2018 16: 04
          +4
          Here ....... What's in us -...., NOT so, gentlemen, comrades? When will we learn correctly use force-means? I don’t know ... Shame ... So use the Navy, do not blame me, the army and PMCs who are waiting in Syria for cargo from their homeland ... am
      3. iaroslav.mudryi
        iaroslav.mudryi April 27 2018 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: BZTM
        One thing pleases, finally not the BDK. Enough to ruin their resource, useful for business. There are barges. wink

        Weekdays of the "Syrian Express" from Kassad from 25 on April 2018, many photos here:
        https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/4147366.htm
        l
      4. Achtaba1970
        Achtaba1970 April 27 2018 16: 31
        +2
        Yes, yes, and some suggested that the Mistrals should carry it at all.
      5. Season
        Season April 28 2018 08: 44
        +1
        This is not a barge, but a self-propelled cargo ship. And they always carried special cargoes. I know for myself. And BDK is used where it is dangerous for civilian motor ships to appear.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 27 2018 15: 52
      +5
      What does the Syrian Express carry?

      They asked themselves. yes
      On board are Ural-4320 all-terrain vehicles.

      Sami and answered. laughing
      1. Vanek
        Vanek April 27 2018 17: 42
        +1
        You will not praise yourself, nor will anyone praise.

        hi
    3. Vanek
      Vanek April 27 2018 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Caravans go and dogs bark


      On the contrary.

      Dogs bark, caravans go.

      hi
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 27 2018 22: 14
      +2
      Quote: .....
      including anti-aircraft guns of various calibers, including 100 mm ..


      KS-19 - Soviet anti-aircraft gun of 100 mm caliber. Created in 1947. Adopted in 1948. From 1948 to 1955, 10151 KS-19 guns were manufactured. It has a very decent height of defeat - up to 15,4 km, is widespread in the armies of the countries of the Near and Far East.
      Used in Russia as an avalanche

      Well, if the money is the same - then
    5. Maz
      Maz April 28 2018 01: 41
      0

      Enchanting freeze-frame: ISIS in Yarmouk run between the third and second floors of neighboring houses on the Rails.

      Video IG from Yarmouk you can find a sniper rifle Mosin arr. 1891/30
      Militants act surprisingly competently in the harsh conditions of urban battle, actively use rag barriers, stairs and sledgehammers to create holes in the walls.
      The militants clearly protect people - they use shelters, they do not jump out, as before, in full growth.
      This indirectly confirms the small number of them sitting in Yarmouk and its environs, and at the same time, unfortunately for the Syrian army, a good preparation, the process of obtaining which Yarmuk ISIS fighters have repeatedly posted on the Web
  2. vorobey
    vorobey April 27 2018 15: 13
    +9
    and in the Urals missiles to tori and shells ... and in the holds the potatoes that will be unloaded in an aerosol curtain ...
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz April 27 2018 15: 16
      +2
      Not. More precisely, under the Urals. The sediment is maximum ..... Almost.
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 27 2018 15: 14
    +10
    Ural is an excellent army car. And it is not surprising that they are sailing to Syria. And that pleases that they are FINALLY painted in sand color.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine April 28 2018 16: 21
      +1
      I had to see these cars more than once at the Miass training ground ... An enchanting sight, the Urals walking along a 1.5m snowdrift ...
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 27 2018 15: 14
    +9
    I overtook these Urals on the highway ... last week. Still surprised by the color.
  5. RedKors1953
    RedKors1953 April 27 2018 15: 15
    +3
    And at whose expense is the banquet?
    1. 22 dmdc
      22 dmdc April 27 2018 15: 17
      +6
      Why are you interested?
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 27 2018 15: 25
        +9
        Someone for jamon is not enough. laughing
        1. RedKors1953
          RedKors1953 April 27 2018 15: 38
          +3
          Orion. Someone for jamon, and someone for hawk.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey April 27 2018 15: 47
            +5
            Quote: RedKors1953
            Orion. Someone for jamon, and someone for hawk.


            Internet is your food ...
          2. vovanpain
            vovanpain April 27 2018 15: 56
            +4
            Quote: RedKors1953
            Orion. Someone for jamon, and someone for hawk.

            But the Internet is enough wink
      2. vorobey
        vorobey April 27 2018 15: 25
        +9
        Quote: 22 dmdc
        Why are you interested?


        and on the fan .....
      3. RedKors1953
        RedKors1953 April 27 2018 15: 36
        +3
        So the rumor among the people went that the pension fund is going to bankrupt
        1. vorobey
          vorobey April 27 2018 15: 46
          +3
          Quote: RedKors1953
          So the rumor among the people went that the pension fund is going to bankrupt


          why rumor ... open statistics .. more than 20 non-state pension funds are already bankrupt ...
        2. bk316
          bk316 April 27 2018 15: 48
          +5
          Pension Fund

          Which of the funds?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey April 27 2018 15: 51
            +6
            Quote: bk316
            Pension Fund

            Which of the funds?


            I'm afraid there will be no answer ... here the main thing is take more throw further ...
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 27 2018 15: 54
              0
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: bk316
              Pension Fund
              Which of the funds?
              I'm afraid there will be no answer ...

              Alexander, don’t scare pensioners .. We’re so scared lol
              I went through three offices the other day before accepting applications for calculating pensions. Without a statement, nothing will happen. And some quirks in local offices are used to confining themselves to phrases such as “don't be afraid, we will call you ...”
            2. bk316
              bk316 April 27 2018 17: 02
              +3
              I'm afraid there will be no answer ... here the main thing is take more throw further ...

              It seems that after all, if the PFR, then by definition it will not go bankrupt, but if the NPF is really want to know which one. Suddenly mine? belay
              But seriously, I forgot about pension issues: I won’t live on a state pension, I will have to work in retirement.
            3. RedKors1953
              RedKors1953 April 27 2018 17: 14
              0
              Sparrow. I’m retired on the drum, but they will take more and more from you, and then throw and throw you. God grant that through the fan, or even that.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 29 2018 07: 25
      0
      Quote: RedKors1953
      And at whose expense is the banquet?

      And this, depending on the addressee, this "package" is floating. It is possible that our units .. It hurts a little.
  6. impostor
    impostor April 27 2018 15: 21
    +3
    What is lucky is what is lucky. What they can see, they will see, and what they cannot, they will not see.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey April 27 2018 15: 24
      +6
      Quote: impostor
      What they can see, they will see, and what they cannot, they will not see.


      what we want to show is what they see ... drinks drinks

      remember how the Iskanders in the Baltic states after a month and a half just saw ... and only because we showed them ourselves .. lol lol
      1. impostor
        impostor April 27 2018 15: 29
        +1
        Mutually, comrade drinks
  7. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 27 2018 15: 22
    +1
    Normally updating the fleet. It is clear that so far - at the expense of Russia, because Assad has nothing to pay so far, except for contracts and promises.
    1. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 April 27 2018 15: 55
      +3
      Well, it’s not a matter of falsification, it’s worth one field for testing military equipment in real conditions, plus an outpost in this region, plus a competitor’s pipeline that has not passed through Syria, plus contracts to restore Syria for our companies, plus the development of the region’s oil fields companies, plus the price of oil has already risen to 73 per barrel, and when they entered fell to below 30.
  8. Blackbeard
    Blackbeard April 27 2018 15: 24
    +2
    camouflage is still a big deal
  9. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 27 2018 15: 31
    +3
    Quote: RedKors1953
    And at whose expense is the banquet?

    For ours with you.
    Agree, it's nice to help people. hi
    1. impostor
      impostor April 27 2018 15: 36
      +4
      For ours with you

      At this expense I will eat grass - but I’ll pay what is despicable metal compared to human life? hi
    2. vorobey
      vorobey April 27 2018 15: 38
      +5
      Quote: Livonetc
      Quote: RedKors1953
      And at whose expense is the banquet?

      For ours with you.
      Agree, it's nice to help people. hi


      and you also contain shoigu and company, Kolokoltsev and company, nabiulin and company, as well as ministries of teachers of doctors of tax specialists of the Ministry of Emergencies, and the worst thing is that you also contain pensioners and disabled people ...

      it’s good to drive .. smart people and mow under ....
    3. PalBor
      PalBor April 27 2018 17: 10
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Quote: RedKors1953
      And at whose expense is the banquet?

      For ours with you.
      Agree, it's nice to help people. hi

      For example, giving gifts is more pleasant than receiving. The dear person’s joyful and happy face is more important than counting the rubles in the dark corner. Moreover, these rubles are not so hot anyway. Let anyone bring joy smile
  10. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 27 2018 15: 36
    0
    That's right, the work is in full swing, let the spirits get ready for the holiday! And do not forget to shake the rugs!
  11. intuzazist
    intuzazist April 27 2018 15: 44
    +1
    wink : win hi [/ I][I][/B][B]ked:
    1. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa April 27 2018 15: 50
      +2
      Only Prokopenko fans on Ren TV can read your message

  12. viktor.
    viktor. April 27 2018 16: 04
    0
    Bad car boring DO NOT BREAK laughing good
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 27 2018 16: 15
      0
      Yeah .. and goes wherever he wants ..
      1. viktor.
        viktor. April 27 2018 16: 27
        0
        I will correct where Drove wants there and goes.
      2. Morosha
        Morosha April 27 2018 16: 31
        +3
        On this 4320 he tried to ride where he wanted (but wanted on not bad asphalt), he did not want, broke and broke, apparently he wanted to Syria.
  13. Spambox
    Spambox April 27 2018 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: BZTM
    One thing pleases, finally not the BDK. Enough to ruin their resource, useful for business. There are barges. wink

    All also go and BDK:

    Orsk

    Nikolay Filchenkov

    This is not a BDK
    1. bk316
      bk316 April 27 2018 17: 06
      +4
      This is not a BDK

      Why is this ? Project 1171 ...- BDK
  14. Brushing
    Brushing April 27 2018 16: 52
    0
    Fejegichno !!! After 2.5 years of military operations, military experts concluded that it is better to have sand camouflage in the desert .... wassat

    And if they suddenly attack us, then from sandy to green, too, in two years we’ll go over ...- military men, garbage .... lol
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 27 2018 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: Still running
      After 2.5 years of military operations, military experts concluded that it is better to have sand camouflage in the desert ....

      NO .. after 2.5g the cars in storage ran out. This is new .. already with the Yaroslavl engine .. immediately at the factory and painted as it should.
      1. KCA
        KCA April 28 2018 09: 27
        0
        In fact, in 4320, in my opinion, only YaMZ was installed, at least from the 92nd, it stands out with a hefty air filter on the hood, and at 4310 with KAMAZ only the intake pipe, the filter inside.
  15. dojjdik
    dojjdik April 27 2018 17: 10
    0
    soon the Syrians will drive the gangs to the border with Israel, the gangs are of course even lower, but somehow the reluctance among the Jews will again have a current of gollan and
  16. Imobile
    Imobile April 27 2018 17: 25
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Ural is an excellent army car. And it is not surprising that they are sailing to Syria. And that pleases that they are FINALLY painted in sand color.

    Our advisers are getting smarter, there is a chance that something will be finalized in the weapon, even if it’s small
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 27 2018 23: 15
    0
    The color is rather a faded green.
    It seems that the equipment was stored in the open air.
    So bookmarks of Soviet times came in handy ...
  18. Seaflame
    Seaflame April 28 2018 00: 47
    +2
    Under the USSR, they would not have been soared ...
  19. PSN10
    PSN10 April 28 2018 01: 51
    0
    Poor team! Who thought of buying this Chinese G. and even the Turks? This is not corruption, this is a deviation. Yes, Smirnov, Ermoshkin and Mezentsev were noble ships., Disguised as civilian ships. SEU - gas and steam turbine. Decks were tested for strength by real tanks. ChSZ, Nikolaev. This is not repeated.
    1. Seaflame
      Seaflame April 28 2018 02: 10
      +1
      There was also "Vladimir Vaslyaev" (the last in the series), the Americans bought it from Ukrainians, lengthened, modernized and exploited for the benefit of NAVY. They even wrote: https://topwar.ru/18367-sovetskiy-korabl-v-sostav
      e-sil-bystrogo-reagirovaniya-vms-ssha.html
  20. Old military officer
    Old military officer April 28 2018 07: 21
    0
    God, how many strategists and evaluators of the situation with the fleet, the army, etc. Delight! We have what we have here and now. And our caravan as it was going, and it is going. And the dogs both barked and barked. What to do? This is how our world works.
    1. ... 14012014r
      ... 14012014r April 30 2018 21: 52
      0
      They don’t rummage because it’s a normal dry cargo ship, it has chartered several of them and carry at least a million tons. And the guys will have work. The BDK and other things are not needed here, are they traveling under fire.
  21. Geneshvi
    Geneshvi April 30 2018 17: 20
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    Can anyone explain what a killer is? In 2008, I unloaded equipment in Kamchatka from such vehicles. And why are they not used in Syria? In their holds of ten fifty-ton pipe-laying machines, Komatsu was placed, and there was still space.
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      ... 14012014r April 30 2018 21: 54
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      For underwater cargo operations ...