Is a genetic war on the food front - is it just a myth?

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Every year an increasing concern is caused by such a problem as providing the world's population with food. The number of earthlings is growing at a steady pace, and resource reserves, designed to saturate the market with high-quality agricultural products, are decreasing from year to year. However, going to any of the modern large-scale grocery stores in Russia, the food crisis seems to be meaningless to talk: the shelves are filled up to the top - choose the taste, color and wallet. And if even 25-30 years ago you could only dream of such abundance, today the reverse side of this abundance has suddenly appeared. Not everything that lies on store shelves meets the requirements of sanitary and genetic safety. The globalization of the Russian economy, on the one hand, leads to an increase in competitiveness, including within the country, and the other side of the coin is that Russia often turns into a huge sales market for products that, for a variety of reasons, cannot be realized, for example in the European Union or the United States.

In addition, there is a rather strange tendency. For example, a comparison of the average yield level in a number of countries of the world looks ambiguous, to put it mildly. According to reports from the British statistics last year, the average yield on the British grain fields was such figures that even Rostov and Voronezh farmers could envy: more than 48 centners per hectare! The yield of the French fields is also impressive, being at about the same level. With all due respect to the diligence of the same British farmers, it is hard to believe that the lands of Foggy Albion can produce such crops, from which the bins just pop up at the seams. It turns out that farmers use some innovative methods, if I may say so, in order to increase the grain yield and, as a result, their own profitability.

And these methods are in fact already known. It's all about the wonders of genetic engineering, which literally turns over even the most advanced technology in its time, as Michurin's.

Now the main question for us is: how can the use of genetic engineering in agriculture threaten the health and safety of Russians, and why is this genetic engineering needed at all if there are still quite a large number of undeveloped fertile lands in different countries of the world?

We will understand in order. To begin with, it should be said that in a number of countries, products obtained using genetic modification of plants are exclusively exported. Unconditional leader among the plants in the number of genetically modified variations is soy. In second place is corn. If we take into account that today there are soy additives in almost any “meat” product in Russia, then we can say with confidence that GMOs produced abroad already behave in our country literally prudently. The final price of the product decreases, additional demand appears, there is a kind of “national” advertising company - as a result, everything works so that this product gets its distribution and its regular customer. The saddest thing is that neither genetics, nor nutritionists will say whether the use of genetically modified foods is safe. Implanted genes can behave completely unpredictable.

British scientists have recently conducted a remarkable experiment, of course, on laboratory mice (as they, at least, claim). One group of mice was fed exclusively products with the addition of GMO raw materials. After a short time, the very implanted genes began to actively participate in the functional activity of the organism of animals, leading to severe changes in morphology. It was these experiments that led British lawmakers to obligate all food manufacturers, without exception, to indicate on their products the presence or absence of a specific GMO element. However, these laws operate exclusively in the domestic market. As soon as the same goods are sent abroad, there are no special requirements for products. The main thing - buy and, thereby, bring money to the treasury. In fact, all responsibility for the quality of the purchased products in this case falls not on the manufacturer and the seller, but on the buyer. They say that he bought genetically modified soy himself - and then on himself and blame ... This approach can only be called a frank food war, in which there are soldiers, generals, winners, losers and, naturally, victims. And the number of victims in this strange war is increasing year by year. People manifest such diseases that not only do not respond to treatment, but also prevent the continuation of the species. The number of fixed oncological diseases, the facts of infertility today is growing at a staggering pace. If such diseases are monitored, then the residents of large cities, which (residents) are increasingly forced to eat those products that already by definition include genetically modified compounds, suffer from them. These compounds can affect the reproductive function of male and female organisms, as well as the body’s opposition to negative neoplasms.

It would seem that the genetic war on the food front is just a myth that should not be paid much attention to. However, it must be understood that there are forces in the world that are incredibly profitable for citizens of different countries of the world to think so. In order to understand that the myth is far from here, the following example should be given: in the United States recently, the government authorities rejected a proposal by American environmentalists to ban the spread of such a herbicide as 2,4-D. This chemical compound was once part of the same "orange agent", which the Americans actively used during the Vietnam War. Farmers use this herbicide to kill weeds in their acreage. But, as you know, if weeds are destroyed, then grain crops receive fair portions of the same destroyer. Environmental studies have shown that the "agent" affects the development of cultivated plants and can lead to a complete disruption of their functions during growth. It turns out that American farmers, using 2,4-D, act to their own detriment, killing along with the ubiquitous weeds and wheat. But farmers have taken a different path: they use crops, which American genetics have imparted a special gene to. He "does not notice" 2,4-D. Weeds “notice” it and die, but wheat and other grains do not. In other words, thanks to the proposal of "green", it was revealed that wheat and rye with artificially introduced genes are spiked on numerous US acreage. These grains are exported, saturating the markets of those countries that are not able to provide themselves with bread and other agricultural products. Environmentalists have found that the yield of grain after the processing of the fields by the “agent” is increased by 2,5%, which brings additional profit to farmers and, therefore, to the state.

Doctor of Biological Sciences Irina Ermakova from the National Association for Genetic Safety gave an interview to the online edition "Free press"

- The most massively imported corn to us. Today, 16 lines of GM crops, which almost all are banned in most European countries, are officially permitted in Russia. These are 7 corn lines, 3 soybean lines, 4 potato lines, 1 rice line, 1 beet line, and 5 microbial species. Of the 16 lines, the 9 lines are resistant to the herbicide Roundup and glufosinate. It seems to be a few permitted varieties, but they are added to many products. GM components are also found in bakery products, meat and dairy products. There are many of them in baby food, especially for the little ones.

So, the new line of GM maize will not even have to be officially registered, because we have a very bad situation with the work of laboratories for the detection and qualification of transgenic plants. It is more correct to say that we simply have no barrier to identify and remove unresolved crops from the market. So any poison will easily fall into the shops and on the table.

In connection with the entry into the WTO, the turnover of transgenic plants in our country will increase many times.

Who and why is lobbying on the world level these products. I previously wrote that in Norway, the United States many scientists are persecuting for any work in the field of research on the safety of transgenic plants. Until 2010, I was a leading employee at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences. After a series of my publications on this topic, all my research was covered up, grants were taken away, and they were strongly advised not to talk about the topic at all. But I can not speak, because all this horror will come to the fields, to the shops, will lead to irreversible damage to people's health. This is a real disaster! I do not know how to prevent it, but it is impossible to hush up exactly.


It turns out that, supplying genetically modified agricultural products abroad, many Western countries, as they say, kill two birds with one stone: they increase their own profitability without the need to develop new arable land, and also act as guarantors of global food security, which, due to the above, is completely safe does not even smell.

However, these “fighters of the invisible front”, thinking that they are inflating the whole world, are in fact inflating themselves. Tomorrow, those lands that were treated deadly for plants and, therefore, for people, with a herbicide will be oversaturated with this composition. Soil depletion can reach a level at which no genetic engineering can save. In the end, sooner or later, someone from the "fighters" will have a desire to use the dubious method of extracting super-profits already on their fellow citizens.

In connection with the above, attention can be paid to the so-called humanitarian aid of a number of western states addressed to countries such as the DPRK, Haiti, Sudan, etc. For 10 years (1995-2005), the United States alone supplied more grain to North Korea than in 600 million dollars. It turns out that this service could well be, shall we say, bearish. After all, to prove that the American food did not contain genetically modified components is impossible.

Let us not forget that, against the background of all the scandals with the European missile defense, the American authorities took a rather lively initiative to accept Russia into the WTO. Even Georgia had to take its veto back. Why would such an unexpected movement in the direction of the Russian Federation. Maybe the whole thing is that Russia is going to make another (and by no means small) market for GMO products from American and British fields. I don’t want to escalate the situation, but lately, Russia just doesn’t get anything from the West, so here we have to look for some subtext.

After all, you will agree that it will be very difficult for the domestic producer of the same wheat (pure wheat) to compete with the manufacturer of cheaper genetically modified products, which already feel more than confident in the Russian open spaces. Therefore, the appearance on the shelves of Russian stores of new foreign products at low prices is not a reason to joyfully clap your hands and admire the new realities of joining the WTO.

In conclusion, it should be said that the global food war may soon become much more brutal than today's oil wars, concealed by the banners of democratic revolutions. In this regard, Russia needs to understand that only the development of its own agricultural production can be a guarantee of food security in the future.
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  1. Satanail
    +22
    4 May 2012 08: 03
    This is not a myth, but a reality! It started long ago! "E" additives and genetically modified foods or their components, such as soy ... Let us recall the experience with the central sheep of the "share" (the genetic one was changed: in place with milk it gave the protein of the cobweb)
    It must be firmly said:
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    NO WESTERN PRODUCTS!
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    WE SUPPORT THE DOMESTIC MANUFACTURER!
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    1. Vanek
      +12
      4 May 2012 08: 37
      Quote: Satanail
      This is not a myth, but a reality!


      REALITY!

      That year at the summer cottage (somewhere around June. That is, there are no cucumbers and tomatoes yet). My son and I are two (he was a year and 9 months old). Before that they ate them (cucumbers) and nothing.
      And here, after the cucumber, one cucumber was chopped off. We are with him for two days and ry..li and cf..li further than we saw.

      Quote: Satanail
      ************************************************** ******************
      NO WESTERN PRODUCTS!
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      WE SUPPORT THE DOMESTIC MANUFACTURER!
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      Totally agree. But our products contain enough "good". As a result: Summer cottage, garden beds, greenhouses. And you will know exactly what is on the table.
      1. +18
        4 May 2012 09: 31
        Quote: Vanek
        Totally agree. But after all, our products have enough "good"

        It is necessary to reintroduce the GOST, SanPINof system and abandon the ISO and TU quality system that each manufacturer prepares for itself, then there will be fresh products and there will be no gene additives. In 70 -80, anyone was puzzled by the fact that buying butter to watch so that it was creamy and not like right now a spread (what a nasty word)?
        1. Winter
          +14
          4 May 2012 11: 51
          And what prevents us, in spite of membership in the WTO, to prohibit GMO products altogether according to sanitary criteria? .. Firstly, the health of the nation is at stake, Secondly, this is the best support of the native producer! The same can be done with "eshki".
          1. 755962
            +7
            4 May 2012 15: 40
            Quote: Winter
            ban GMO products by sanitary criteria

            Russia has taken the path of a market economy, in which business plays a major role. Unfortunately, dishonest entrepreneurs often push low-quality products to make a profit. This is especially dangerous when goods based on the use of poorly studied technologies go to the market. To avoid mistakes, tight control at the state level over their production and distribution is necessary. Lack of proper control can lead to serious errors and serious consequences, which happened when using genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in food. GMOs include GM bacteria, GM plants, and GM animals.

            The widespread distribution in Russia of GMOs, the danger of which has been proved by scientists from around the world, leads to infertility, a surge in cancer, genetic deformities and allergic reactions, to an increase in the mortality rate of people and animals, a sharp reduction in biodiversity and environmental degradation.
            1. recitatorus
              +6
              4 May 2012 18: 19
              To set a task for Onishchenko and he will justify this ban in two counts! A mosquito nose will not smack!
          2. +1
            5 May 2012 22: 46
            Dear! The article mixed horseradish with radish, added horror stories and let the fog go! Believe me, it is necessary to distinguish between genetic modification and residual exposure to pesticides.
            No one will deny the harmful effects of various chemicals, including plant protection products, on the human body and domestic animals, without which the production of crop products is now impossible and unprofitable. Moreover, mankind itself has driven itself into such conditions so much that it can no longer refuse to use chemical means - the laws of nature do not allow it to be done on a scale exceeding a single field or a separate farm.
            But!!! Any person who has a biological or medical education or who knows at least a little the principles of the enzyme system of any organism and the basis of cellular physiology and is capable of some analysis will never accept the nonsense that GM products (it doesn’t matter, of plant or animal origin) can in any way affect on the genetic component of man. Throughout its history, mankind has been eating foods containing genes (sections of a deoxyribonucleic acid molecule containing hereditary information about the primary structure of one polypeptide chain) that differ from its OWN, but consisting of the same 4 nucleotides! And yet no one began to crow, bleat or grunt, as well as smell like orange or produce vitamin C, like parsley! Only people who can accept the following fact can declare the harmfulness of genetically modified products: a house built of bricks cannot be dismantled into individual bricks and a different house, or temple, or toilet can be built from them. Only SEPARATE nucleotides can be used in a cell, and not their aggregation (genes). Therefore, ANY potato, corn, or soybeans, when assimilated, is broken down to the smallest (not bearing ANY GENETIC INFORMATION) components that make up the body’s own structures, which are nothing like the same potato or corn.
            On such statements about the dangers of GMOs, someone simply does his business, using massive psychosis, fears for the health and incompetence of people!
            1. 0
              7 May 2012 16: 14
              I just wanted to write something in the same spirit, but I saw your comment, where everything has already been chewed. I support, plus from me. drinks
        2. +5
          4 May 2012 14: 51
          ISO has nothing to do with the recipe, but GOSTs are stupidly not observing, it is necessary to introduce Harsh penalties for not observing your own recipe, by the way what you did not please with the TU, you will not register anything harmful with them. So that their own specifications, the manufacturers themselves do not comply.
      2. YARY
        +6
        4 May 2012 10: 04
        Simply put the rules for the implementation of imported products at the level of international standards - and the problem will be completely solved !!!
        The obligation to fully inform the buyer about the product! With specific regulations, the font of the text, the color of the text, the information content of the text.
        If you read about what will not bother you, you will not buy the goods.
        Questions only to punishment of violators and the problem is removed! angry angry
        1. Darn
          +4
          4 May 2012 11: 10
          But there are people who are forced to buy goods only because of the low price. How to protect them?
        2. Ataturk
          +1
          4 May 2012 12: 30
          Quote: Ardent
          Simply put the rules for the implementation of imported products at the level of international standards - and the problem will be completely solved !!!
          The obligation to fully inform the buyer about the product! With specific regulations, the font of the text, the color of the text, the information content of the text.
          If you read about what will not bother you, you will not buy the goods.
          Questions only to punishment of violators and the problem is removed!

          Will not help. Monsanto sends its people around the world and they deliberately pollute fields and farms if the farmer and the head of the country does not allow them to legally sell their products. (GMO)
          1. +1
            4 May 2012 14: 52
            How do they do it?
            1. Ataturk
              +1
              4 May 2012 16: 23
              Their workers travel to Mexico. They see a Corn plantation, and let's secretly spread seeds there. And all the fields after that become dirty. Watch the program about Monsanto, I posted the links. Very informative.

              And by the way, who works in Monsanto ... either before or after MONSANTO work in the US State Department, they oversee them.

              Bastards.
              1. +1
                4 May 2012 16: 41
                Of course, I don’t know about corn, can you imagine what it is to "secretly fill up" a 20 hectare field on which corn is already growing !?
                But in Russia they will wait until the end of the sowing season and then what? re-plow and sow?
              2. 703-s
                0
                4 May 2012 18: 24
                google about chemical trails. It will be interesting to see.
        3. Neighbor
          +4
          4 May 2012 17: 57
          Quote: Ardent
          Simply put the rules for the implementation of imported products at the level of international standards.

          For example - PALM OIL! All over the world it is prohibited. But here - practically everywhere. Even in the same Biglanche. And how many other "joys" - soybeans, preservatives, concentrates, additives, dyes, other chemicals and poison.
          Quote: Here Damn
          But there are people who are forced to buy goods only because of the low price. How to protect them?

          In every city - there are village fairs on weekends, there are bazaars and markets - where everything is natural and fresh. Grown and produced with us. And prices are cheaper than in stores.
          I personally - try to eat as naturally as possible. All sorts of Pepsi, forfeits - I have not drunk 100 years. Juices - such as good - there is one Chinese powder - I do not buy. All sorts of lollipops, sneakers, flavored teas, jams, crab sticks and other delicacies are all POISON.
          I mainly eat meat, chicken, pasta, cereals, soups, vegetables, fruits - 90% - all products are ours - Chelyabinsk. As I advise you - there is less rubbish - save both money and health. And tablets with medicines - I have never eaten anything from anything - except for paracetamol at high temperature. Also, my father and brother - never in my life - did not eat pills. And nothing - father - 62 years old - works in production. Looks better than some - 50 year olds.
          And on the topic - Gennomod. products are biological weapons. Directed against us and to receive colossal $. That’s what stew can be for 18r? What a sausage at 50r / kg. ? In the store - all this is there. Yes, these dogs cannot even be fed. Not that we ourselves have it! It may be that nothing will happen to you, but your children and grandchildren will not find it enough. Few of us with disabilities and the backward are born. Or in 20 years - cancer.
          ALL of this is NOT JOKERS. Take a closer look - to the stuff in your mouth. Man is what he eats and how much.
          1. Zynaps
            +1
            4 May 2012 21: 56
            Quote: Neighbor
            Here's an example - PALM OIL! All over the world - prohibited.


            here, for example, the quoted phrase is a typical case of the so-called lies. because palm oil is no worse than the same sunflower oil, and palm oil is bought all over the world. the main consumers are the confectionery and perfumery industries. Russia buys palm oil (you don't believe it, google it) because its price per ton is $ 30 cheaper than sunflower oil produced inside Russia.

            about "liquid smoke" and other flavored turbidity - I agree, but about GMOs - read a biology textbook. sections "Human metabolism" and "Amino acids". if I didn't skip my lessons very often at school, then the material will go for the future and the eyes on manipulations in the press around GMOs will open vividly. Sapienti sat.
          2. 0
            5 May 2012 21: 17
            I think that everything is much worse than you think and "eating ours" is no longer relevant. I specifically "googled" this topic in my Orenburg region - almost massively agricultural producers use GMOs (seeds) from Monsanto ...
            I am silent about forage crops. On the Greenpeace website, the topic of GMOs is actively discussed and there are even lists of Russian manufacturers, such as those that do not use GMOs. But, if the dairy does not hold mutant cows, but feeds GMOs, then the essence does not change.
            We add here that within a radius of 70 km from any plant there is a chemical contamination zone. elements. There is a book "Harmful Chemicals" in 2 volumes. Everything is exhaustive there ...
            Personally, I doubt that one of us does not consume GMOs or products with an unacceptable chemical content every day. elements. This refers to zinc, copper, etc., etc. Any metals and non-metals.
            Just do not give a damn about everything. And who eats, and who should control.
            Europe resisted the onslaught of Monsanto for a long time, but could not resist. We are even more so. I am certain circles in the United States, I have no doubt that they can quite purposefully wage or are waging a genetic war against everyone ...
          3. 0
            5 May 2012 22: 57
            Genetically modified foods MAY NOT be biological weapons! A stew for 18 rubles or a sausage of 50 because there is NO MEAT !!! There is vegetable protein, usually soy or, less commonly, produced from a yeast hydrolyzate (obtained from yeast fungi grown on a nutrient medium). Yes, it is not tasty, it may not be digestible, but THIS will not remake your body!
      3. Satanail
        +8
        4 May 2012 10: 23
        In his student years he worked as a cook. I cut a cucumber, but it's all slimy. The chef says: - that you are looking at my salad. Of course, I refused, because you can throw out one cucumber, but the whole batch ... It was at the address Moscow, Vdnkh metro station "Tea Cafe" 7 years ago. I can publish places where you can't eat in Moscow! Want to? I am guided by personal work experience) I left such restaurants!
        1. 12061973
          +2
          4 May 2012 14: 23
          Yes I want this very much.
          1. Satanail
            -1
            7 May 2012 00: 42
            You can eat Moscow, a sports station Elpatio planet sushi, shopping center Sportivnaya (WORKED WITH GLOVES, THOUGHT BEFORE WORK, THOSE WAITERS NOT INCLUDING KITCHEN), on a willing row) THERE IS ALL PERFECT). Riga McDonald's Station, Rostiks. DO NOT !!!! STATION Riga FIR-STICKS FIRES (Cockroaches, DON'T FOOD CORRECTLY, DROP ON THE FLOOR AND PIT.) Station TUBE NEAR AUCHAN FEMALES FEMALES (PRODUCTS DON'T CORRECTLY POSSIBLE TO RECEIVE A POISON, ALWAYS ONLY ONLY)
      4. Timoha
        +3
        4 May 2012 10: 31
        Vanya,
        that’s how it is, buddy. you just have to be sure what you buy for seeds, how you fertilize the beds (except manure), and what is part of the feed that you will feed the cattle in your yard. but in any case- Cottage, beds, hotbeds - the right option to minimize the amount of poison on the table.
        1. Vanek
          +5
          4 May 2012 10: 36
          Quote: Timoha
          you still have to be sure what seeds you buy,


          I can say more. We have a summer house for 28 years. And all these 28 years, granny, and now mother raise one and the same varieties (tomato, cucumbers, etc.). That is, we do not buy seeds. But as for fertilizer, feed. There is a question.
        2. Darn
          +3
          4 May 2012 11: 15
          Vladimir
          Alas, you are right about the seed count, these sinister genetics have already reached them. In the USA, they look at farmers as a function. That is, they give him seeds, he plants them, he harvests. Next year, everything repeats. These plants do not give seed.
          1. +5
            4 May 2012 14: 56
            These are called F1 hybrids or later on. Such plants produce almost no seeds, but yield rich crops.
            It was all a long time ago, back in the USSR
      5. Darn
        +4
        4 May 2012 11: 08
        Hi Vanya.
        As a result: Cottage, beds, hotbeds.
        BEHIND!
        But the challenge is to get agricultural products all year round. And how
        especially in my sunny Karelia. I found the answer for myself in hydroponics, I'm trying to master it.
    2. +4
      4 May 2012 09: 58
      Quote: Satanail
      NO WESTERN PRODUCTS!
      ************************************************** ******************
      WE SUPPORT THE DOMESTIC MANUFACTURER!

      As in the advertisement: Have you seen that I would water our apples with muck? (Leaving the frame: And I water !!! wassat ) The main thing here is not so much where it grows and who grows it (although I am exclusively for the Russian producer), how much the animal is fed and what the flora is watered with. Our manufacturer sits on imported feeds and fertilizers, but in them .. it’s sitting there, how much !!!
    3. islandpan
      +4
      4 May 2012 10: 09
      we will support the domestic producer, but many seeds come from over the hill!
    4. Ataturk
      0
      4 May 2012 12: 28
      Quote: Satanail
      WE SUPPORT THE DOMESTIC MANUFACTURER!

      Do you think Russia is not cheating? I watched the show how the poor cow was forced to eat a lot of salt, in kilograms, so that the poor animal would constantly want to drink, and before selling the cattle, they forced him to recover artificially, the cow drank water without stopping. Extra 200 rubles, but money.

      Quote: Satanail
      This is not a myth, but a reality! It has already begun a long time ago!

      Yes, it is a reality. They just kill us. I give poison, and even for this I get dibs and the task of reducing the number of people on the planet is decreasing. Cancer is provided.

      I know a person who lived right, sports, every day soup, fruits, everything is normal, but he got sick with stomach cancer (((((((((((((God help. I wonder how this could happen?

      If you pay attention since the 90s, the level of oncology has increased significantly. And at the head of them all, is one company. American Monsanto.

      still those
      1. 703-s
        +3
        4 May 2012 17: 17
        It’s bad that they overtook us from all sides.
        I somehow argued with a friend customs officer about chicken.
        and actively defended domestic poultry farms.
        in response, he only laughed and talked about the huge number of trucks with hormonal growth preparations that our poultry houses feed.
        1. +4
          4 May 2012 17: 23
          And what do you think, if from hatching and slaughtering of all 22-30 days, everything passes. Try at home chicken in a month to bring the kg mass.
      2. Kamilla
        +1
        27 May 2012 00: 36
        Yes you are right)))))
    5. 703-s
      +3
      4 May 2012 12: 53
      forgot about one important point.
      domestic seed production is almost killed.
      seeds are almost all imported hybrids from whose fruits it is impossible to collect seeds for the next year. and the country gets terribly dependent on seed suppliers.
      and this is the collapse of food security.
      1. +5
        4 May 2012 14: 57
        Do not buy seeds of hybrids and you will be happy, you yourself all choose seeds with high yields;)))
    6. +2
      4 May 2012 16: 08
      The problem is that our farmers themselves buy genetically modified grain! It is cheaper in the market and is sold unhindered from the United States. How do we know that our agricultural products are not affected by this poison ??? And Medvedev also sells the grain state corporation (monopolist!) Into the hands of Golden Sachs (Rothschild)! Now all the grain will go through it!
      And the food industry has already proved to us all that for the sake of profit nothing will stop. Recall sausage, sausages, etc.
      It is necessary to carry out a law stopping this infection in our country. Prohibit all exports of modified plants.
      1. +2
        4 May 2012 16: 13
        For farmers, why buy grain? it is prepared for sowing in the fall
  2. _Igor_
    +4
    4 May 2012 09: 01
    article +

    we need to talk more about this topic, the most powerful blow will be a ruble hit, those refuse to buy imported
    1. 703-s
      0
      4 May 2012 17: 25
      related video
      http://video.mail.ru/mail/welimudr2016/_vfavorites/1391.html
  3. Ruslan
    +3
    4 May 2012 09: 16
    Yesterday I watched the film "God Bless America" ​​- the Americans themselves filmed and showed the problems of their society - I recommend everyone to look you will not regret it.
    http://my-hit.ru/film/18713/online
  4. Trudy
    +9
    4 May 2012 09: 37
    First, the WTO - no! Everything is correct in the article said. The West receives in the person of Russia a huge market for its GMO products, while having large profits and, in addition, undermining the health of Russians.
    Secondly, I consider it necessary to revive the good old tradition of having a country house or a house in the village to grow environmentally friendly products. This is for you and exercise and good nutrition, and at the same time active outdoor recreation.
    In the store, the potatoes are rotten, tasteless, the products are worthless. I do not want to feed future grandchildren with such food. We bought a house in the village. Now we have our own vegetables, pickles, meat, eggs, milk and so on. In the neighboring forest (50 km. From the city) we collect vigorous saffron mushrooms, oily, boletus, boletus, porcini mushrooms. At the same time we admire nature and breathe fresh air. These are our opportunities for Russians, not even for Americans (hamburger-eaters) and Europeans.
    I urge you to abandon imported products and grow your own as far as possible - you and your children and grandchildren will have health.
    1. +3
      4 May 2012 10: 19
      Quote: Trudy
      I consider it necessary to revive the good old tradition of having a country house or a house in the village

      Alas, the realities are such that I had to give up this venture. You have been in a certain position all summer, and nobody knows who is "chomping" the harvest. Moreover, he will destroy the house as a thank you. And no options.
      1. +2
        4 May 2012 15: 00
        However, you have wild places, you can also do mechanization of labor. The same potatoes can be planted, spud, sprinkled with a tractor that year for 6 hectare of the field gave 3500 rubles total.
        1. +3
          4 May 2012 15: 40
          Tin 3500r for plowing with a tractor of 6 hundred parts? Well, you are an oligarch. did not try a shovel? healthier, cheaper and much better.
          1. +3
            4 May 2012 15: 49
            For plowing, planting, spud, weeding and digging, is this a lot? I go to the village to relax, spend time with my son.
            1. Trudy
              +4
              4 May 2012 16: 03
              You are right, dear urzul, in our village there are 35 acres. A neighbor is a farmer digging, planting, digging potatoes with a tractor. We just weed. 3000 if it goes for all the work - it’s not a pity. But 3 families are provided with all vegetables. Well, there are still workers, we also pay. All this pays off. The main thing in the village is not to drink and work at least a little physically (of course, if there is still the main work that generates income, otherwise you won’t live on potatoes and vegetables).
            2. 0
              5 May 2012 10: 30
              son must be accustomed to work (physical).
    2. 0
      4 May 2012 19: 46
      There is a good documentary film-study of GMOs. It is a pity the author forgot. The problem is that worms and insects disappear in the fields sown with GMO plants. The earth is dying and there’s no need to plant more there. And it has not been investigated whether GMOs can be mixed with ordinary plants and how this infection is spreading. And now we are only dependent on the awareness of our farmers!
  5. +2
    4 May 2012 09: 52
    Two years ago, some of our scientists spoke on Echo of Moscow (!), Who for an hour argued that GMO poses no danger to people, all these fears are in vain, this is a very profitable and promising direction for Russia, and so on. I wonder if they themselves eat what?
    1. +3
      4 May 2012 10: 11
      Quote: Rashid
      Two years ago, some of our scientists spoke on Echo of Moscow (!), Who for an hour argued that GMO poses no danger to people, all these fears are in vain, this is a very profitable and promising direction for Russia, and so on. I wonder if they themselves eat what?

      And what are they worried about. Already mutated along the way.
      1. +3
        4 May 2012 10: 19
        Quote: Rashid
        GMO poses no danger to humans

        I also read that type of DNA structure does not change there, they only add the 1 gene responsible for enhanced growth. Only in order to add it to the chain it is necessary to break it first, and then it is already built in and who said that this gene (if it can be integrated into the 1 DNA chain) will not be able to break the human DNA chain over time and be integrated there.
    2. +2
      4 May 2012 10: 23
      apparently they have been eating GMOs for a long time, since their brain has turned into jelly. and the station itself is a GMO of our country.
  6. танк
    +3
    4 May 2012 10: 07
    People do not worry too much, plant gardens and we will be happy !!!!
  7. Georg Shep
    +3
    4 May 2012 10: 16
    Coming food apocalypse at the genetic engineering level. More truly - has already come. And this problem is not environmental, but political.
    1. танк
      +3
      4 May 2012 11: 16
      This is because no one wants to grow, but only eat, eat and eat again, coolie consumption society
  8. +6
    4 May 2012 10: 28
    we have no chance. who will plant gardens? look at what they write about our basin machines, but there’s only one reason we don’t want to put our hands on the ground, we will plant a cottage with grass and we will wallow in a hammock. why work, why squeeze the lever in the rain, she’ll turn on the smart car as a janitor herself, she will say that the wheel is half-low The GPS navigator will tell you where the nearest tire mounting is, where the Uzbeks will pump you wheels, yourself a break, and the suit is clean. forgot how to work, and even for yourself.
    1. +2
      4 May 2012 15: 05
      why press the lever in the rain, she’ll turn on the foreigner as a smart janitor herself, she will say that the wheel is half-low The GPS navigator will tell you where the nearest tire mounting is, where the Uzbeks will pump you wheels, by the break, and the suit is clean. forgot how to work, and even for yourself.

      Don’t tell the rain sensor, and for safety, a thing is useful if a truck wakes you from a puddle at speed. I don’t consider VAZ basins, but devices that simplify life are not superfluous. A navigator is generally an important thing for a person who himself drives regionally. GARDEN by the way I plant
      1. +1
        4 May 2012 15: 42
        I’m just exaggerating, but the fact remains.
        1. +2
          4 May 2012 15: 52
          I understand of course, but this is the engine of progress
          1. 0
            5 May 2012 10: 32
            GMO-then, this is also progress.
            1. +1
              5 May 2012 10: 39
              And who said that progress is always good?
  9. 12061973
    +3
    4 May 2012 10: 32
    I wrote long ago that the problem of nutrition is more important than any rockets. I want to say that in Argentina, Brazil, Australia, additives like GMOs and antibiotics for growing beef are not used, it is not economically profitable, livestock on pasture all year round, and in Russia it’s profitable , can give some kind of subsidies to the domestic producer, and import meat from Argentina.
    1. танк
      +2
      4 May 2012 11: 23
      You are a little wrong, agriculture in Russia is dated, it is not profitable for us due to the high costs of preparing for winter (salary costs as much as in countries where there is no oil at all !!!) And we import meat from Argentina anyway !!! and from EUROPE, THERE IS EVERYTHING FAVORABLE for some reason smile
      1. prunx
        -1
        4 May 2012 13: 15
        Not "for something", but for quite understandable reasons, the main of which is climatic. I warn you in advance that I don't need "la-la" about Finland and Canada.
        1. танк
          +1
          4 May 2012 14: 48
          How does Germany and Poland differ from us in climate ???? The main import of meat from there. Canada is not Europe
          1. Zynaps
            +1
            4 May 2012 15: 04
            nonsense. Look at the import of meat on the customs website. Brazil is the main meat supplier in the Russian Federation.
            1. +3
              4 May 2012 15: 18
              And basically it's buffalo, which takes the market like chicken legs from America solely for its prices.
            2. танк
              +1
              4 May 2012 16: 15
              You are right, but Brazil or Argentina, the climate is not very important here, the growing conditions are the same. I talked about Europe!
      2. 12061973
        0
        4 May 2012 14: 21
        it’s like a domestic auto industry, if it hadn’t been driven by a Solaris for 250000 tons, and since it is a prior for 350000 tons of rubles.
        1. +3
          4 May 2012 15: 07
          Solaris for 250000 rubles
          Is it a complete set without body panels and seats?
          1. танк
            +1
            4 May 2012 17: 13
            With the Chinese engine immediately after the release of the model, it cost something like that, a little more, now it is much more expensive, they say Korean engines are now putting
            1. +2
              4 May 2012 17: 25
              I have not seen such, apparently not only with the Chinese engine, it really hurts a big difference, now they are from 400 000, that is, almost 2 times more expensive.
  10. +4
    4 May 2012 10: 40
    "... The creation of each new type of GM organism, according to expert estimates, costs about three million US dollars, while the total number of genetically modified varieties and species has already exceeded a thousand. Such tricks with nature are only possible for large transnational corporations. And such colossal About eighty percent of all registered GMOs belong to the pioneer of the industry - Monsanto, the next two largest players in the market - the Swiss Syngenta and the German Bayer. According to Greenpeace's expert estimates, the annual turnover of seeds of GM crops alone is about fifty billion euros, this value does not include income from the sale of pesticides, patent rights, etc. Naturally, such money is behind very influential forces capable of creating powerful lobbies. its major one is GroupLife America, the Association of Agroindustrial Corporations, which includes such giants as BASF, Bayer GroupSeason, Dow Agrosciences, Monsanto and Syngenta. But the Association is far from all GMO supporters. Pharmacists also have their interests in this area, among them the American pharmaceutical giant Merck, who use genetically engineered products in their medicines, and food workers, who sell products containing or produced from transgenic crops with considerable profit.
    And it should be noted right away that the conflict over GMOs does not concern science, but the authorities, or rather, the ability of a handful of corporations involved in the sale of seeds, pesticides, and the like, to dictate their conditions to world agriculture. This is the meaning of the “Gene Revolution” - to force local farmers around the world to abandon traditional agricultural varieties and make them absolutely dependent on their own patented transgenic products and the associated pesticides. After all, all gene inserts inserted in the genome of plants to obtain GMOs are an object of intellectual property. Therefore, their use is paid, and a country that grows seeds of transgenic crops on its territory that have a patented genetic insert will always pay royalties to the owners of this insert, the so-called royalties. In other words, the cultivation of transgenic crops leads to the emergence of a strict dependence of national agricultural production on biotechnological corporations that have the rights to cultivated GM crops, legalized by international law.
    But in addition to the regular payments that farmers must pay to producer companies for the use of transgenic seeds, financial losses will also be incurred by those who did not specifically grow GM plants, including the most ordinary summer residents. After all, any GM grain is an ordinary seed, and when it ripens into an adult plant, its pollen will fly away and pollinate traditional species ....
    ... Now 80 percent of the agricultural chemicals market is controlled by only five companies, the absolute leader among which is Monsanto, and they are world leaders in creating and introducing into production transgenic plants resistant to their pesticides, and developers of technologies for cultivating these transgenics using their herbicides. In fact, a vicious circle. It is safe to assume that the task of these companies is the tightly controlled globalization of world agriculture ...

    Continuation. "... Monsanto, the epitome of the growing influence of large agribusiness, currently controls 23 percent of the global seed market, and its GMO developments, according to various estimates, account for 85 to 94 percent of transgenic crops grown in the world. is a major proponent of barring farmers from using GMO crops as a seed fund for the future, increasing the dependence of farmers on seed companies.Monsanto, moreover, has sued tens of millions of dollars from farmers who have been convicted of illegal use of GMOs seeds even in cases where, most likely, GMO crops appeared in their fields by accident, as a result of cross-pollination, which is more suitable for the aforementioned term "genetic infection" ...
    ... Thus, when America brings genetically modified corn, for example, to Africa, under the guise of “food aid” or sells transgenic rice to China and other Asian countries, this is nothing but paving the roads for the domination of its agricultural corporations on world food market globally ....
    ... The first GM plant varieties of the Monsanto company were created in such a way as not to absorb the most profitable and patented by the same company weed control product - Roundup, which it has been trading since the 60s of the last century. Initially, the price of seeds was underestimated at a loss in cost to attract a buyer. But the losses were short-lived - a self-destruction gene, the so-called “terminator technologies,” was built into GM seeds. It prevents the second generation of seeds from appearing, and the farmer is forced to buy seeds again every year. As we have already said, the resulting plants are resistant to “Roundup” - a herbicide of the same company, which is designed to destroy weeds. But in practice, weeds quickly become resistant to this herbicide, and in order to cope with new weeds, the farmer is forced to increase the volume of Roundup purchased annually. Where is the promised reduction in pesticide use that the creators of GM crops promised us?
    Research by the Northwestern Scientific Center for Environmental Policy in the United States has shown that the creation of herbicide-resistant GM plant varieties only increases the cost of chemicals and exacerbates the problem of chemical pollution of the environment.
    Chinese studies have shown that the use of pesticides in fields with GM cotton has not decreased, but rather has increased dramatically due to the emergence of secondary pests to which this crop is not resistant.
    In Argentina, which is actively growing GM crops resistant to herbicides, the use of Roundup has increased 1992 times compared to 70, from 1 million tons to 70 million tons per season! ... "

    For whom it is interesting: Tarmashev. Legacy: "... Dear Readers, Before you read this book, I would like to say a few words about it. The first part of it may seem overloaded with complex scientific data. However, I still recommend that you take this information seriously. They are reliable and are based on the work of many modern scientists - geneticists, biologists, virologists. This is the actual state of affairs in the world, and if we do not do anything to change it, the fantastic story of the second and third parts can become a black reality for our descendants. "
    1. Ataturk
      +1
      4 May 2012 12: 32
      All right. It would be great if they also wrote about supplements E.
    2. postman
      +1
      4 May 2012 13: 14
      Quote: Basilevs

      Basilevs

      Right. Although there are some exaggerations.
      But after reading, you will be in shock.
  11. +6
    4 May 2012 10: 56
    Competition is often referred to as the main engine of development and progress. Maybe in terms of technology or science, this is so, but in the food industry everything is different. Product manufacturers, competing with each other, are trying to lower the price of their products by replacing expensive natural ingredients with cheaper substitutes. Instead of meat - genetically modified soybeans, instead of sugar - formaldehyde aspartame, a bunch of all kinds of chemicals are added - preservatives, taste improvers, etc. As a result, instead of high-quality natural products, we get cheaper surrogates. Moreover, since on the store shelf, the former do not differ from the latter, and the population is not too rich, cheaper surrogates crowd out more expensive and high-quality ones. Accordingly, the manufacturer of better quality and natural food is left either to go broke or to reduce the price using cheaper raw materials, substitutes, all kinds of E and other "improvers".
    Probably, in this area we need strict state control and a system of GOSTs.
  12. Alex-rus
    +3
    4 May 2012 11: 40
    Many thanks to the author. Incredibly important article. Itself is almost in despair from the total jamming of any study on mice of the action of products with GMOs. The results of the study are simply murderous.
  13. +3
    4 May 2012 11: 47
    Scientists have come to the point that brought fruits / vegetables from other latitudes are already a little negative for the body belay what to say about GMOs
  14. +3
    4 May 2012 12: 24
    The article is excellent. We must return to our own roots and work so that the word "suffering" again acquires an exclusively positive meaning, because the harvest today is food for tomorrow.
    1. танк
      +2
      4 May 2012 12: 27
      You are definitely right
  15. go_by
    +2
    4 May 2012 13: 09
    GMOs are a touchstone on which patriotism and betrayal are tested. You can immediately see who is his own, and who is the Cossack mishandled. There’s no need for a lie detector.
  16. I627z
    +2
    4 May 2012 13: 27
    You just need to carry out reforms in agriculture, in addition to "industrialization" give people the opportunity to work on land (simplification of the purchase of land for agricultural purposes, tax benefits for the same land, etc.).
    With our lands, we can "get rich" by exporting food.
    It is only necessary to do this. We must remember our traditions, because the Russian Empire has always been famous for its agro-industrial complex.
  17. prunx
    +1
    4 May 2012 13: 33
    Reliable protection for themselves, family and people can be accompanied by knowledge, increased vigilance. Everything in our own difficult age must be done and controlled. Well, there should be a public outcry, the more real political instruments have appeared for this.
  18. Trudy
    +3
    4 May 2012 13: 56
    The foreign gene is inserted into the host DNA chain using a carrier bacterium. In this case, it is impossible to determine in advance in which part of the chromosome the inserted gene will fall. In addition, in addition to the target genes, technological debris in the form of bacteria particles is also embedded in the genome. The actions of biotechnologists here resemble the actions of an alchemist: mix, grind, heat and see what happened. However, unlike an alchemist who, in the worst case, recovers or explodes himself, genetic engineering creates monsters that can change the whole world.

    Adverse effects on human health

    The spread of various forms of allergies. In particular, they suspect that infant formula, which includes GM soy, to a greater extent than before, began to cause allergies in children. The integrated gene is capable of transferring from the GM product to the intestinal microflora. As a result, it may become insensitive to antibiotics. As a result, the spread of new strains of pathogenic bacteria. The fact that such a transfer of foreign DNA is possible proves the existence of oncogenes (genes transferred by the virus and causing tumors in the host) and apoptotic genes (genes transferred by the virus and preventing the destruction of virus-infected cells).

    the danger from the use of transgenic products and organisms is higher than from chemical compounds: they do not decompose, but are accepted by the cell, where they can multiply and mutate uncontrollably.

    List of foreign companies seen using GMOs:

    Kellogg's (Kellogs) - production of cooked breakfasts, including corn flakes.
    Nestle (Nestle) - the production of chocolate, coffee, coffee drinks, baby food.
    Unilever (Unilever) - the production of baby food, mayonnaise, sauces, etc.
    Heinz Foods (Hayenz Foods) - production of ketchups, sauces.
    Hershey's (Hershis) - the production of chocolate, soft drinks.
    Coca-Cola (Coca-Cola) - production of drinks Coca-Cola, Sprite, Fanta, tonic "Kinley".
    McDonald's (McDonald's) - "restaurants" fast food.
    Danon (Danon) - the production of yogurt, kefir, cottage cheese, baby food.
    Similac (Similak) - baby food production.
    Cadbury (Cadbury) - the production of chocolate, cocoa.
    Mars (Mars) - chocolate production Mars, Snickers, Twix.
    PepsiCo (Pepsi-Cola) - drinks Pepsi, Mirinda, Seven-Ap.

    List of Russian companies using GMOs:

    Companies OJSC "Darya Semi-finished products" (trade mark "Daria"), MPZ "Kampomos", PC CJSC "Korona", ML "Mikoyanovsky", OJSC "Tsaritsino", OJSC "Lianozovsky sausage plant. The highest percentage of GM soybeans was found in the cooked veal traditional sausage, produced Cherkizovsky plant... GMI was most often found in the products of the same manufacturer, as well as in the products of the company "Di Ech V S" (trade mark "Rolton").

    Consumer Handbook 2006. Greenpeace - http://www.greenpeace.org/russia/Global/russia/report/2010/1/808367.pdf
  19. +3
    4 May 2012 14: 07
    For many, many years, there has been heated debate about GMO products. However, whatever one may say, but the harm from them is obvious, it has already been repeatedly proven. For Russia, with our demographic problem, GMOs are categorically not allowed to reach the shelves. Categorically! Our grandchildren risk not having children !!!
    You need to ban today! This is very dangerous ... This is an undeclared war on humanity.
    About our food safety.
    "Not by bread alone ..." The fact that we have plenty of grain today is good, even excellent, but meat, milk (animal husbandry), agriculture, processing, storage - investments are needed here, first of all state investments.
    Together with private farms, we are able to almost completely switch to self-sufficiency.
    But, as always, you need the will of leadership, sanity and ... from words to get down to business.
    1. +2
      4 May 2012 15: 10
      Good afternoon Valery, yes there are investments in C / X and there is an increase in both milk and meat.
      1. ole
        ole
        0
        4 May 2012 23: 51
        urzul, hello dear villages become extinct, small cities become ghosts, where they come from agriculture, since 2013 the state will date agricultural and crop production in particular only with insurance of the entire crop (in principle, it is correct), but as always we have the execution - in the neighboring farm insurance comp. (Alliance) recognized an insured event that fall, but to this day no one has seen the money. Well, talk about warehouses in large cities with imported meat and milk powder, their turnover is huge. Already today, even in distant villages, milk is taken in stores.
        1. +1
          5 May 2012 08: 42
          It’s strange, and cars from state farms come to the cities and sell milk on bottling, apparently a lot depends on the region, since mostly local authorities allocate money for agricultural products, not the federal budget
          1. ole
            ole
            0
            6 May 2012 23: 56
            Well hello, the main subsidies are like federal donors, I agree that somewhere the region adds somewhere no, wait a moment in August we will join the WTO and everyone will eat GMOs.
  20. postman
    +3
    4 May 2012 14: 19
    “Food is power! We use it to change people's behavior. Some will call it a bribe. We don’t care, we don’t intend to apologize. ” Katerina Bertini, Executive Director of the United Nations World Food Program, former Assistant Advisor to the US Secretary of Agriculture

    In fact, if you do not use (centrally) the landing area for growing biomass for bio-fuel, then Enough for 9 billion people.

    Sweden - approx. 70% for rape (the entire southern part is the granary)
    Germany- about 47% for rapeseed
    etc.

    GMOs / Transgenes - weapons of mass destruction

    Why are our "silent"?
    Why Dree ../ Onishchenko "catches" Ukrainian cheese, and is benevolent to GMOs

    Hungary, Mexico - a complete ban on GMOs.

    GMO plants are not grown in greenhouses, but in open ground. Transported by wind, insects, birds, animals. After some time, there will be traces of GMOs everywhere, AND ALL GMOs INSERTED OBJECTS OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (and you have to pay for use)
    Article 2 of the Federal Law of December 18, 2006 N 231-FZ "On the introduction of part four of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation"

    Here are the "providers" of GMOs:

    Monsanto Company (St. Louis, Missouri, USA) / + 5 branches in Russia: Krasnodar, Moscow, Volgograd, Novosibirsk /

    Dow AgroSciences LLC (DowElanco) 9330 Zionsville Road, Indianapoli, USA / Dow AgroSaenses LLC Moscow, Belgorod, Volgograd, Voronezh, Kazan, Krasnodar, Rostov-on-Don, Stavropol)
    Syngenta AG (Basel, Switzerland)
    Nestle AG - Switzerland (and throughout Russia)

    Merck KGaA (Frankfurter Str. 250 64293 Darmstadt Germany) / branch in Russia - Moscow /
    BASF SE (Carl-Bosch-Str. 38 67056 Ludwigshafen Germany) / branch in Russia - Moscow /
    Bayer CropScience (Elisabeth-Selbert-Strae 4a D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany) / branch in Russia - Moscow /

    WHERE IS OUR ORTHODOX CHURCH? (P-Cyril?)
    God's providence?
    Transgenic selection is the transfer of DNA, protein chains in a vertical vector from species to species. + Binding carriers - garbage (about which no one knows anything at all).
    flounder DNA fragment - in the potato genome

    WHAT IN NATURE is not possible, in principle.
    List of GMOs approved in Russia for food use by the population (as of 2008):
    Soy
    Line 40-3-2, Line A 2704-12, Line A 5547-127.
    Potato
    Variety Russet Burbank Newleaf, Variety Superior Newleaf, "Elizabeth 2904/1 kgs" "Lugovsky 1210 amk." [27]
    Corn
    Line GA 21, Line T-25, Line NK-603, Line MON 863, Line MON 88017, Line MIR 604, Line Bt 11.
    rice
    Line LL 62.
    Sugar beet
    Line H7-1.
    1. Zynaps
      +1
      4 May 2012 17: 20
      manipulative pictures are especially pleasing. still missing mountains of corpses - mass graves of victims of GMOs.
      1. postman
        0
        4 May 2012 19: 11
        Quote: Zynaps
        manipulative pictures.

        could be so:
        http://superslim.by/dietyi-i-pitanie/eda-v-makdonalds-neuzheli-vse-deystvitelno-
        tak-badho.html

        and the result is this:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z-rgwTihBIQ
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vo4uxtLsa8&feature=relmfu

        moreover:
        In July 2011 The Federal Arbitration Court of the Moscow District ruled on the McDonalds lawsuit against the Moscow territorial division of the Federal Tax Service. The court found that McDonalds in Russia does not provide restaurant services, and sells food products like a store, and its activities should not be subject to 18% VAT, and 10%.
        Дело №А40-79686/10-75-307

        The composition of the McDonalds products:
        http://gigantmarket.com/consulting/7-sostav-produktov-iz-makdonaldsa-vse-produkt
        yv.html
        ==========================
        http://genocid.net/news_section.php?sid=6
        http://rutube.ru/tracks/2033826.html
        1. Zynaps
          +1
          4 May 2012 21: 44
          the data given to GMOs have absolutely nothing to do with it. this is an area of ​​dishonest conduct of business when ballast is added to products, it goes into food and it is cooked on every red radish.

          GMOs are getting thinner. There is no reliable data on the dangers of GMOs - usually the paid manipulators on the part of traders with traditional agricultural products inflate the hysteria, because manufacturers of pesticides, fertilizers, etc., etc., whose profits are threatened by using potatoes with a flounder gene, are involved in the business.

          Letters who dwell around GMOs first explain how the flounder gene in potato will mutate in humans when consumed, if, after it enters the stomach, the GMO product breaks down under the influence of enzymes and gastric juice into 20 standard amino acids, which will be absorbed by the body.

          Well, or what's the catch for the consumer in viskar, which the United States and Canada have been driving GMO maize for three five-year periods? or does the name GMO alone make ethanol molecules mutagenic?
          1. postman
            0
            4 May 2012 22: 17
            Quote: Zynaps
            the data given to GMOs have absolutely no

            Foods That Cannot Be GMO (to date)
            Natural juices
            Drinking water, mineral water
            Milk
            Kefir and other dairy products made from natural milk
            At McDonald's, there are NO these products (mb juice?)
            Other Products may contain transgenic soy protein:

            Products and crops modified
            Potato
            rice
            Corn
            Broccoli
            Cauliflower
            Peas
            Bow
            cucumbers
            Tomatoes
            Apples
            bananas
            Coconut
            Citrus
            Cocoa
            Coffee
            Vegetable oil

            List of some manufacturers in the Russian market with the specified GM products

            Kellog's Manufacturing Company

            Corn Flakes (Flakes)
            Frosted Flakes (Flakes)
            Rice Krispies (cereal)
            Com Pops (Flakes)
            Smacks (flakes)
            Froot Loops (Colored Ringlets)
            Apple Jacks (Apple Flakes)
            All-bran Apple Cinnamon / Blueberry (bran with apple, cinnamon, blueberry flavor)
            Chocolate Chip
            Pop Tarts (cookies with filling, all tastes)
            Nutri-grain (toasted toppings, all kinds)
            Crispix (cookies)
            Smart Sfart (Flakes)
            All-Bran (Flakes)
            Just Right Fruit & Nut (cereal)
            Honey Crunch Corn Flakes (Flakes)
            Raisin Bran Crunch (Flakes)
            Cracklin 'Oat Bran (cereal)
            Hershey's manufacturing company
            Toblerone (chocolate, all kinds)
            Mini Kisses (candy)
            Kit-Kat (Chocolate Bar)
            Kisses (candy)
            Semi-Sweet Baking Chips (cookies)
            Milk Chocolate Chips (cookies)
            Reese's Peanut Butter Cups (Peanut Butter)
            Special Dark (Dark Chocolate)
            Milk Chocolate
            Chocolate Syrup (Chocolate Syrup)
            Special dark chocolate
            Syrup (Chocolate Syrup)
            Strawberry Syrop (Strawberry Syrup)
            Manufacturing company Mars
            M & M's
            Snickers
            Milky Way
            Twix
            Nestle
            Crunch (Chocolate Rice Flakes)
            Milk Chocolate Nestle (Chocolate)
            Nesquik (chocolate drink)
            Cadbury (Cadbury / Hershey's)
            Fruit & Nut
            Manufacturing company Frito-Lay / PepsiCo
            (GM components may be contained in oil and other ingredients)
            Lays Potato Chips (all)
            Cheetos (all)
            PepsiCo manufacturing company
            Pepsi
            Pepsi cherry
            Mountain Dew
            Manufacturing company Heinz
            Ketchup (regular & no salt) (ketchup)
            Chili Sauce (Chili Sauce)
            Heinz 57 Steak Sauce (meat sauce)
            Hellman's Manufacturing Company
            Real Mayonnaise (mayonnaise)
            Light Mayonnaise (mayonnaise)
            Low-Fat Mayonnaise (mayonnaise)
            Coca-Cola Manufacturing Company
            Coca-Cola
            Sprite
            Cherry coca
            Minute maid orange
            Minute maid grape
            Manufacturing company Pringles (Procter & Gamble)
            Pringles (flavored chips Original, Low Fat, Pizza-delicious, Sour Cream & Onion, Salt & Vinegar, Cheezeums)
            Manufacturing company Cadbury / Schweppes
            7-Up
            Dr. Pepper
          2. postman
            +1
            4 May 2012 22: 39
            Quote: Zynaps
            GMOs are getting thinner. no reliable data on the dangers of GMOs

            It is believed that an epidemic of meningitis among children in the UK was triggered by GM soybeans used to make waffle biscuits and milk chocolate.

            there are 17 lawsuits filed against McDonald's in European courts: citizens accuse the company that its products contain GM ingredients, and there are no warnings about it

            “In 1995, people began to die of spongiform encephalopathy. This disease was called a new variant of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease ...
            The UK epidemic has triggered a flurry of work to find an infectious agent that spreads the disease. As you know, viruses or microbes transmit diseases. Scientists diligently searched for them in the brains of sick animals. But the search was in vain. In the early 80s, American Stanley Prusiner discovered that the cause of the disease is not viruses or germs, but a protein molecule called prion. Such biologists have never seen. It was incredible, it turned out that the infection and reproduction of the infectious agent was not responsible for living things, but for protein molecules that did not contain genetic material. For the discovery of prions in 1997, Prusiner received the Nobel Prize, and a new version of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, spongiform encephalopathy of cows, scrapie sheep and a dozen less known diseases were called prion diseases.


            1998, professor Arpad Pustay (Rowett Institute): experiment with rats (they fed ONLY GM potatoes for 10 days) - the immune system was suppressed in rats and various disorders of the internal organs: the brain volume decreased and the liver was destroyed. In addition, the intestinal tract, goiter, and spleen were affected in experimental animals.

            1999, Professor Stanley Even of Aberdeen School of Medicine: fed GM rats potatoes. A few days later, he found in animals an increase and unnatural deformation of the walls of the stomach.
            Zoologist Hans-Heinrich Kaac and his reports, published in the summer of 2000 in London, indicate that GM plants cause a mutation in living organisms that feed on them. The scientist found that the altered Pancake week gene penetrates the bacteria living in the bee’s stomach and leads to their mutation.

            Nick Birch of the Scottish Agricultural Research Institute found that the presence of lectin genes in potatoes lowers glycoalkaloids, because of the bitter taste of this plant, it is inedible for many species of mammals and insects. The level of glycoalkaloids in the leaves of potato transformed with lectin fell by 44% compared to the original. A decrease in the level of glycoalkaloid alpha-chaconin increases the voracity of potato aphids.
            Angelique Hilbeck of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich: "These studies (H, B,) were a real surprise." We still have a lot to learn about the unwanted side effects of various (genetic) transformation techniques. "

            Institute of Microbiology Max Planck (Marburg, Germany) in 2001 showed that the cultivation of GM potato violates the vital activity of soil bacteria.

            Chinese experts at the Nanjing Institute of Ecology concluded that transgenic plants negatively affect the environment. Scientists concluded that genetically modified cotton bushes are less resistant to other types of pests. These data sound threatening to China, since 35% of the cotton bushes growing in China are genetically modified.

            Harry Gilbert and his colleagues from the University of Newcastle upon Tyne (Britain) in the summer of 2002 experimentally proved that DNA from GM food cells is borrowed by the bacteria that make up the intestinal microflora of humans.

            Government studies at the Scottish Crop Institute have shown the dangers of GM plants for insects. GM potato plants were fed aphids, which in turn were fed by ladybirds. The life of ladybirds was reduced to half the expected life expectancy, and their fertility and egg laying were significantly reduced. / Natur


            Cows injected with recombinant cattle growth hormone (rBGH), which leads to an increase in milk yield by 25%. However, the cows have swollen legs and herds become unusable, and the content of insulin-like growth factor IGF-I in milk rises. Studies have indicated the dangers of consuming such "milk." Scientists point out that IGF-I is responsible for numerous biological functions: "milk" can be dangerous for the growth process of children, leading to serious and irreversible consequences for the child's body.
            1. Zynaps
              +1
              4 May 2012 23: 25
              Quote: Postman
              It is believed that an epidemic of meningitis among children in the UK was triggered by GM soybeans used to make waffle biscuits and milk chocolate.


              it is assumed that the weather on Mars affects the decisions of the Russian government in the field of state building. from the same opera.

              Quote: Postman
              Stanley Prusiner discovered that the cause of the disease is not viruses or microbes, but a protein molecule called prion


              so ... even fragments of proteins have already gone into business. which, naturally, do not carry genetic material, for debris is. the farther into the forest, the thicker the partisans.

              Quote: Postman
              1998, professor Arpad Pustay (Rowett Institute): experiment with rats (they fed ONLY GM potatoes for 10 days) - the immune system was suppressed in rats and various disorders of the internal organs:


              This is a famous fake. other researchers fed the rats of the two groups different potatoes. in both control groups, the animals felt normal.

              read further - the same shnyaga: British scientists have proved ... "feeding aphids" and other fat - facts in the world of the galaxy, not evidence. that some types of GMO cotton are not resistant to other pests is also not an indicator. hurried to sow not fully tested plants - so they ran into them. these are not answers.

              the use of growth hormone for cows - conversely - is not GMOs.
              1. postman
                0
                5 May 2012 00: 02
                Quote: Zynaps
                on Mars affects decisions of the government of the Russian Federation in the field of state building

                This is precisely a proven fact, there is no other explanation.
                But seriously, there is a heap of literature (but in foreign), inspiring confidence, where this "suppose" is sufficiently substantiated.

                Quote: Zynaps
                so ... even fragments of proteins have already gone into business

                And what is Prion?
                it is a normal protein present in humans and animals on the surface of neurons. An infectious disease agent is a pathogenic prion. The chemical composition of normal and pathogenic protein is the same, and the spatial structure is different. Pathogenic prions stick together with each other, forming plaques on the surface of neurons and disrupting the connection between them.
                Infection occurs as follows: a pathogenic prion molecule enters the body. Cows, humans, and other mammals do not have enzymes that decompose structurally prions. Therefore, once in the blood, the pathogenic protein sooner or later appears on the surface of the neuron. There, it interacts with adjacent normal prions, and they slowly change their spatial structure, turning into a pathogenic one. Changed proteins merge into plaques, and the cell dies.

                And where do the pathogenic prions from sheep come from?
                Maybe this is the so-called product of "decay"
                Quote: Zynaps
                GMO product breaks down under the influence of enzymes and gastric juice



                Quote: Zynaps
                this is a famous fake

                Yes of course
                prestigious The Lancet magazine, in 1999 Stanley Ewen of Aberdeen Medical School: confirmation of the results of Pusztai.
                "Report for the Chardon LL Hearing: Non-suitability of genetically engineered feed for animals"> published by The Scientists for Global Responsibility in May 2002, Eva Novotny contradicted the official conclusions on the chicken and rat experiments. She pointed out three abnormalities as a result from testing Chardon LL: 1) some animals consumed GM feed did not gain weight rapidly enough; 2) some animals given GM feed displayed erratic feeding habits; and 3) mortality rate of chickens fed on GM maize doubled of those fed on non-GM maize.
                research of Calgene's FLAVR SAVR tomato (first GM food on the US market) noted some laboratory rats that were given the GM crop developed stomach lesions; and seven of the forty rats died within two weeks. In Germany, twelve cows died after digesting Syngenta's GM maize, prompting the Swiss biotech company to compensate the farmer. The recent disappearance of the once populous Monarch butterflies in North America might be related to GM crops. The Monarch butterfly larvae died from eating milkweed that had been contaminated with Bt corn pollen.

                In Germany, twelve cows died after consuming GM Syngenta corn, prompting a Swiss biotechnology company to compensate the farmer (Bbauer) for losses.
                It's all the same
                Quote: Zynaps
                shnyaga:


                Okay, I stop the discussion. LIKE - EAT NEA HEALTH AND SING VIKAR
                Quote: Zynaps
                GMO corn
                .
                To Health.
          3. postman
            0
            4 May 2012 23: 14
            Quote: Zynaps
            manufacturers of pesticides, fertilizers are involved

            and Monsanto (the leader and main lobbyist of GMOs) and created GM wheat, maize, soybean and sugar beet varieties resistant to the glyphosate herbicide - one of the best-selling chemicals in the world, better known under the Roundup brand name and produced by the same company.

            If "Potato" is so safe, why should even straw / straw be removed and destroyed from the fields?
            Maxim Vonsky, candidate of biological sciences, employee of the laboratory of structural organization of the genome of the Institute of Cytology of the Russian Academy of Sciences: “I participated in the work of the expert committee, which decided whether to allow beet and potato for growing GM in Russia. In addition, so that these man-made genes do not “run away,” the crop must be removed completely! In Russia, this is not yet possible ...

            The "creators" of the fertile layer (worms, bacteria, etc.) do not digest this tops and straw and die for 3 years.


            In June 2002, the environmental committee of the European Parliament made a preliminary decision, according to which the minimum proportion of GM ingredients requiring labeling is reduced to 0,5%. The project provides for:
            prohibition of the sale of products containing ingredients not approved by the EU;
            obligatory labeling of products made from "bio-ingredients", even if the content of those is technically impossible to determine (this provision, in particular, affects many types of vegetable oil, sugar, meat and dairy products).

            US authorities stubbornly refuse to label products containing GMOs
            In 2001, the area of ​​land given under GM soy, corn, potatoes, cotton and other crops exceeded 50 million hectares.
            US accounted for 68%

            Quote: Zynaps
            how the flounder gene in potato

            and you know HOW it is inserted there and TOGETHER with what?

            Agrobacterial (most common) method of gene transfer - using bacterial plasmids (extrachromosomal circular DNA) as carriers of reconstructed genes
            The soil bacterium Agrobacterium tumefaciens, which is responsible for the formation of plant growths - galls (plant tumors)
            like pech and “knows how to” introduce genes into plants and “force” them to synthesize the proteins it needs.
            The bio-ballistic method: a DNA molecule with the corresponding genes and regulatory sequences necessary to control these genes are applied to microscopic tungsten or gold particles. Particles with DNA are accelerated in a special vacuum chamber to certain speeds sufficient for penetration into plant cells. This is followed by the selection of transformed cells and the regeneration of transgenic plants. And no one knows and cannot control which cell of the explant is transformed, how many copies of T-DNA are inserted into the genome and which chromosomes-Ch.

            Quote: Zynaps
            GMO product will break down under the influence of enzymes and gastric juice into 20 standard

            DOES NOT DECAY

            a book edited by a well-known geneticist L.I. Korochkin, professor of the Institute of Molecular Genetics of the Russian Academy of Sciences V.A. Gvozdev wrote: "... eating organisms by each other can underlie horizontal transfer, since it is shown that DNA is not completely digested and individual molecules can enter the intestine into the cell and into the nucleus, and then integrate into the chromosome ”[16, p. 70]. The data that DNA is not completely destroyed is also provided by foreign colleagues [17, 18]. As for the plasmid rings, the "circular form of DNA makes it more resistant to destruction" [19, p. 36].

            H. Gilbert's group conducted an independent experiment, during which it was shown that plasmids and GM inserts can be directly borrowed by intestinal microflora from one cell out of three thousand [20]. The capture of genes and GM plasmids by intestinal microflora is also indicated in the works of other researchers

            Quote: Zynaps
            how the flounder gene in potato

            and you know HOW it is inserted there and TOGETHER with what?

            Agrobacterial (most common) method of gene transfer - using bacterial plasmids (extrachromosomal circular DNA) as carriers of reconstructed genes
            The soil bacterium Agrobacterium tumefaciens, which is responsible for the formation of plant growths - galls (plant tumors)
            like pech and “knows how to” introduce genes into plants and “force” them to synthesize the proteins it needs.
            The bio-ballistic method: a DNA molecule with the corresponding genes and regulatory sequences necessary to control these genes are applied to microscopic tungsten or gold particles. Particles with DNA are accelerated in a special vacuum chamber to certain speeds sufficient for penetration into plant cells. This is followed by the selection of transformed cells and the regeneration of transgenic plants. And no one knows and cannot control which cell of the explant is transformed, how many copies of T-DNA are inserted into the genome and which chromosomes-Ch.

            Quote: Zynaps
            GMO product will break down under the influence of enzymes and gastric juice into 20 standard

            DOES NOT DECOMPOSE!
            a book edited by genetics L.I. Korochkin was written by V.A. Gvozdev, professor at the Institute of Molecular Genetics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Russian Academy of Sciences “... eating organisms by each other can underlie horizontal transport, since it is shown that DNA is not completely digested and individual molecules can enter the intestine cell and into the nucleus, and then integrate into the chromosome ”[16, p. 70]. The data that DNA is not completely destroyed is also provided by foreign colleagues [17, 18]. As for the plasmid rings, the "circular form of DNA makes it more resistant to destruction" [19, p. 36].

            H. Gilbert's group conducted an independent experiment, during which it was shown that plasmids and GM inserts can be directly borrowed by intestinal microflora from one cell out of three thousand [20]. The capture of genes and GM plasmids by intestinal microflora is also indicated in the works of other researchers
            1. Zynaps
              0
              4 May 2012 23: 29
              Quote: Postman
              If "Potato" is so safe, why should even straw / straw be removed and destroyed from the fields?


              because scientists want to guarantee the preservation of the natural purity of the fields. pure reinsurance. Do you really think that from the tops of GMOs, terrible tentacles will erupt?

              Quote: Postman
              The "creators" of the fertile layer (worms, bacteria, etc.) do not digest this tops and straw and die for 3 years.


              if this potato is not eaten by the Colorado potato beetle, then it may well be too tough and worms. Well?
              1. postman
                0
                4 May 2012 23: 43
                Quote: Zynaps
                preserve the natural purity of the fields.

                The field is not a greenhouse.
                Seeds, pollen, wind, insects, birds, etc. -Everything is littered already.

                Quote: Zynaps
                it may well be too tough for worms

                and who will "do" the soil?

                I suppose that the feces of cows with a transgene, worms do not want to eat either.
  21. +3
    4 May 2012 14: 30
    all this is reality. Tough and merciless. And without war, whole nations can be destroyed.
  22. +2
    4 May 2012 15: 17
    It would seem that with all its superiority in terms of various indicators over the West (e.g. resources, good scientists, designers, engineers, all sorts of developments, etc.), everything we are proud of and what makes us unique (Russian spirit and ingenuity) and strong ) ... we lose to them. There is no limit to the insidiousness of the enemy ..
  23. Zynaps
    +1
    4 May 2012 15: 37
    read the comments. fierce scribbler. grab a biology textbook for grades 9-10 (best of all - the Soviet school) and read the chapter on metabolism. it would also be nice to read the chapter on selection.

    mankind has been eating mutants for a good ten thousand years. all modern wheat came from its wild cousin - spelled (which Pushkin worker Balda ate). cultivated wheat is also far from spelled, as a modern person from Australopithecus. what the breeders did: they noticed a useful sign in plants and animals, crossed, fixed the sign. milkiness, there, or meatiness. whoever has seen modern rocking gobies being put on steaks, for some reason does not faint from them, although these are typical mutants compared to an ordinary village cow.

    and all this confusion with selection and consolidation lasted for decades. today genetics proposes to step over all this fuss. and in response the terrible cry of the man in the street - "we are mutated !!! stocking up with foil hats !!!"

    attention, the question is especially noisy and hysterical experts! - how can the embedded (for example) flounder gene in GMO potato be able to fit into the human genome? how will he change and harm a person? What is the mechanism of mutation? how can a person be damaged by a viscous corn from GMO corn, from which alcohol has already been driving alcohol in Canada and the USA for three five-year periods? where, excuse me, are genes in alcohol if its formula is C2H5OH ???

    people, roll back your bulging eyes from fear and read the chapter on human metabolism. the protein that enters the stomach, with the help of acid and enzymes is crushed into bricks - amino acids. protein is not digested unassembled. from the GMO product in your belly all the same 20 amino acids that exist in nature will be formed. and the same standard amino acids will be absorbed, and not a hybrid of a snake with a hedgehog.

    The hysteria around GMOs quite clearly resembles the inflated radiophobia after the Chernobyl accident. for Russia, with its low yields and an almost continuous zone of risky farming, the peak of land use efficiency has been reached. only GMOs will help to shift the yield upward. The hysteria around GMOs is beneficial to trading companies, because only in this way they can keep high prices for food. mentioned in the article by D.Sc. Irina Ermakova has long been known for her engagement. paid fighter against inexpensive food. now such "scientists" divorced even a dime a dozen. especially in the fight against GMOs and "global warming". this is insanity, because even on pans and other utensils, labels "without GMO" are seen.

    whoever squeals about the "proven" harm of GMOs - facts in the studio. control group: quantity, age, state of health, what they ate, from which they died. the average man is usually shoved with the standard crap from the category of jokes about cucumbers: all 100% of the dead people in their lives ate cucumbers ==> the cause of their death was cucumbers.
    1. +2
      4 May 2012 15: 56
      I would write about monosodium glutamate, I’m afraid of throwing stones;)))
      I’ll only write that it is by nature in a huge number of products, but it doesn’t matter to the body whether it is artificial or not.
      Whoever is against glutamate, do not fry meat and fish, since during heat treatment it goes into free form, which explains the change in taste.
      Researchers at the Hiroshaki University of Japan (Jap.) Led by Hiroshi Oguro () found that a diet high in sodium glutamate causes vision loss and thinning of the retina of rats. Scientists have found a high content of sodium glutamate in the intraocular fluid washing the retina. Monosodium glutamate binds to the receptors of the retinal cells, destroying them and causing secondary reactions that reduce the ability of other cells to conduct electrical signals. Oguro admits that large amounts of monosodium glutamate were used, 20% order of all food consumed.
      Well, yes, when entering directly into the eyeball, there would still be no consequences;)) try the usual salt also enter. 20% of all NaCl shaken food leads to death after 5 days.
      1. 0
        4 May 2012 20: 51
        Not everything is so simple and simple. No need to mislead people.
        The body does not matter, believe me. This is a lie that is diligently exaggerated by both manufacturers and pharmacologists.
        Synthetic monosodium glutamate has toxic properties and unnecessarily excites brain cells, and with frequent use can cause irreversible changes in them, especially in children and adolescents.
        Studies conducted by scientists in different countries show that monosodium glutamate can cause a drug-like addiction. Of course, drug addiction is too much, but the fact that sodium glutamate can act on the body at the DNA level is already recognized by many experts.
        The body ceases to like food made from natural products, and a person simply cannot do without sodium glutamate, and adds it to dishes again and again. In many people who often use monosodium glutamate, the taste sensations gradually disappear altogether, as the taste buds simply atrophy.

        In addition, people have health problems, and quite serious ones - allergies, bronchial asthma, renal failure and other diseases.
        Many have also heard about the “Chinese restaurant syndrome”. This headache and fever, nausea, heart palpitations - all these symptoms occur after eating Chinese dishes or visiting Chinese eateries and restaurants.

        Glutamate sodium is allowed to be added to food in the amount of 1,5 g per 1 kg or 2 liters. However, manufacturers of such an amount of this additive will not help to turn stale, frostbitten, stale and spoiled products into attractive and tasty smelling, therefore they add much more glutamate, and on the packaging they write - “flavor enhancer”, without any notation.

        Sodium glutamate should be no more than 0,8% in food - this is the largest dosage.

        The permissible norm for adults is not more than 1,5 g, for adolescents - 0,5 g per kilogram of body weight. But then it’s not very clear - no more than 9 grams per day; no teenager or adult can weigh 9 kg - such a weight only happens in young children, and sodium glutamate is generally contraindicated for them.

        Apparently, many manufacturers and experts themselves can not figure out how much and what can or cannot be added to the products, and the inscriptions on the packages are done in order to comply with the formality.
        Monosodium glutamate is an approved supplement, and manufacturers will not stop adding it to products while people buy them. Each person decides whether to eat such foods or not - we can only recall that foods with monosodium glutamate alone cannot be useful in themselves.

        If they were made from fresh, high-quality raw materials, sodium glutamate would not be needed, since they would not have to mask their unpleasant aftertaste and give a taste that stimulates appetite.
        And sodium glutamate, which is really useful to us, we can always get from natural products - the same seaweed, tomatoes or beets.
        1. 0
          5 May 2012 08: 59
          1.
          Synthetic glutamate sodium has toxic properties
          Do you know how it is synthesized in real time? I will answer with the help of bacteria Corynebacterium glutamicum. and where are the toxins from?
          2.
          О "Chinese restaurant syndrome" also heard by many. This headache and fever, nausea, heart palpitations - all these symptoms occur after eating Chinese dishes or visiting Chinese eateries and restaurants.
          I heard, and in fact in the Chinese kitchen just natural glutamate (in soy sauce of its order of 3 grams per 100 grams of product)
          3.
          and on the packaging they write - “flavor enhancer”, without any designations.
          Glutamate is not an amplifier, but the fifth type of taste.
          4.
          In food products, monosodium glutamate should be no more than 0,8% - this is the largest dosage.
          In 80% products, the addition of glutamate over 0,3% leads to a deterioration in taste, this is how to salt.
          5. Application is not connected with expired products, but with the use of substitutes in products (in sausage, artificial fat, etc.) to reduce the cost of the product.
          And about 9 grams per day, it is quite difficult to use. Is that algae kombu in the amount of 300 grams to eat.
  24. +1
    4 May 2012 15: 40
    people all of you at first rejoiced at beautiful tomatoes from Europe (ours were clumsy) beautiful potatoes and other vegetables and fruits .., as well as bushy legs of a bush .., our hens were cyanotic .. etc. there are many examples.
    they ruined our food industry, and now GMOs do not like it .. it was necessary to think earlier.
  25. Ataturk
    +1
    4 May 2012 16: 27
    Here I ask you to watch this program.
    The film tells about the company Monsanto and its technologies related to GMOs and not only. The production of GMOs is associated with the “embedding” of a foreign gene in the DNA of other plants or animals in order to change the properties or parameters of the latter, while the entire large-scale distribution of Monsanto plants in the world is silent.

    http://6hfvu.oh5uz1yjlhu.ih4x1.wa.e/watch?v=4wQaQLFJFXk

    TV channel "Vesti". A documentary film by Mikhail Bobrovnik "Caution! Scorpion Gene", which tells about the possible danger of genetically modified foods and drugs for human health.

    http://6hfvu.oh5uz1yjlhu.ih4x1.wa.e/watch?v=XFvwcSSMim8

    there are not how many parts. This is very informative. Everyone should watch these programs.
    1. Zynaps
      +1
      4 May 2012 21: 35
      Quote: Ataturk
      there are not how many parts. This is very informative. Everyone should watch these programs.


      than looking down the toilet, it's better to read a biology textbook. chapter "Human Metabolism". and also about amino acids. you can't get overwhelmed with fundamental science - this is not the PR department of some anal channel.

      as for the activities of Monsanto, traders of the grub are not afraid of mutations on its part, but of ordinary bourgeois monopolism. for Monsanto sells seed, the crop of which cannot be used for new sowing, to the Wells in the office for new seed. so there is the usual tug of war between lovers to keep prices for traditional agricultural products and a monopolist for inexpensive, but very effective GMOs.
  26. xmmmm
    +1
    4 May 2012 16: 33
    The consequences of the introduction of GM crops are perfectly reflected in the book by Sergei Tarmashev "Heritage".
  27. Ataturk
    0
    4 May 2012 16: 47
    It's time to buy land and work with the land ourselves. Creatures lead food genocide with people.
    Whoever has not watched the documentary "Happy People" has lost everything.
    See what places are in Russia. Paradise. How do people live. Healthy as bulls. Already there GMO just will not get.

    http://alu5.sjybvmq4l.qjtv.e/watch?v=vqektlVMXts

    Description: The life and character of real hunters, fishermen and ordinary villagers is described simply, but with great love and even envy, director Dmitry Vasyukov admits. "Happy people is a name without any hidden meaning, without any Aesopian language, without any interpretation. Just like that - happy people. Because they are really happy. I never thought that it could be at all, that is how it can feel and live. people in our country ", - says the director of the film" Happy People "Dmitry Vasyukov. To show all the beauty and truth of the life of Siberians from the village of Bakhta, Turukhansk District, a group of filmmakers from Moscow lived with the heroes of the film for a whole year. Those who have seen at least a few minutes of the life of "happy people" will agree that this is a unique movie. "Happy People" received a national award - Laurel Branch. At the Russian film festival of non-fiction films, the film won in the nomination "Best TV series, documentary series of 2008". Residents of the Krasnoyarsk Territory were the first to appreciate the "Happy People".
    FILM JUST SUPER. NEVER SEE ANYTHING UNMATCHABLE. THIS TRANSMISSION WHEN I LOOK, SUCH A SOUL IN THE SOUL, AND DOES NOT BAD. SEE ALL. THIS IS A SUPER FILM.
  28. Nechai
    0
    4 May 2012 18: 28
    Quote: 755962
    unscrupulous entrepreneurs often push low-quality products for profit.

    and you don’t think that entrepreneurship and max profits are inextricably linked?
    Quote: Steam Train
    and then they are already embedded and who said that this gene (if it can be integrated into a chain of 1 DNA) will not be able to break the chain of human DNA over time and be integrated there.

    Those who bequeathed to consume kosher food, if we discard the religious component, were well aware of this. In plant DNA, fragments of plastic molecules are now found that come from city dumps ....
    GMOs, vaccinations, etc. a whole list of activities aimed at reducing the population of the Earth. That is the genocide of the Golden billion. Rather, his supreme head.
    1. Ataturk
      -1
      4 May 2012 20: 03
      Quote: Nechai
      GMOs, vaccinations, etc. a whole list of activities aimed at reducing the population of the Earth. That is the genocide of the Golden billion. Rather, his supreme head.


      Horror.

      Guys, you know that Bill Heitz spends his billions on these vaccines, which are aimed at infertility.

      And also he sends GMO products to African countries?
  29. Oleg0705
    +1
    4 May 2012 20: 19
    this is damn a serious problem and you need to take it seriously all this is against humanity, that is, the enslavement of mankind this must be fought tirelessly
  30. 0
    4 May 2012 23: 37
    Well, this is all nonsense about GMOs)
    We eat carrots every day) apples, cucumbers, chicken, beef, etc. all of them have completely different genes from ours) and no one else has turned into a carrot) and did not crow.
    New fruits that we have never seen, we are not our ancestors) we buy in the store) and feed the children, and nothing)
    The whole article is utter nonsense.
    Throughout his entire history, man has changed the genetics of domestic animals and plants, first by the selection method, but in fact the same thing is only slower and less effective. The picture by the way perfectly illustrates this)
    here is the link, or google about wild corn, and they wouldn’t eat it) but what we eat is human-derived)
    http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D0%BA%
    D1%83%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B0&noreask=1&img_url=www.virginiaplaces.o
    rg%2Fagriculture%2Fgraphics%2Fteosinte.jpg&pos=1&rpt=simage&lr=11091

    everywhere they write about British scientists) but who they are and what kind of research no one knows)

    do not succumb to provocations) GMO itself does not pose any danger) GMO is not to blame that the fields are treated with pesticides ...
  31. +1
    4 May 2012 23: 47
    I do not pretend to be true, but in my opinion the harm of GMOs is greatly exaggerated. In fact, all cultivated plants are genetically modified, just now this process does not take place over centuries, but over years. The human stomach does not digest genes, but chemical compounds, receives nutrients in the form of simple chemical elements. But if there are harmful metals, mercury, and lead in food, this is dangerous. And organic matter no matter what, even one of the genetically modified grasshoppers, everything will be digested. Correct me if not right.
    1. Ataturk
      -1
      5 May 2012 00: 28
      Recently, you can hear a lot of things about the benefits or dangers of GMOs. GMOs are a genetically modified organism. To make it easier to understand the meaning of this concept, imagine that some genes that are missing from another have been introduced into one organism. These genes are most often responsible for some properties of the body.

      For example, cucumbers can introduce a gene that will be responsible for frost resistance, that is, cucumbers can be grown and stored at lower temperatures.


      What is bad here, you think, the more genetically modified foods are cheaper than usual ?! However, not everything is so good, because it is already known that there is a detrimental effect of GMOs on human health, reproduction of its reproductive organs.

      To begin with, we denote the risk group, that is, those products that most often contain GMOs. These are vegetables, such as corn, tomato, potatoes; meat and sausages, sugar and yogurt substitute.

      One group of scientists proves that with the help of genetically modified organisms, humanity will be able to artificially grow the internal organs of a person.


      Undoubtedly, this will be a great achievement of mankind in the field of transplantation of internal organs, however, these are still only assumptions that have no evidence.

      Another group of scientists vehemently argues that GMOs harm humans. And to these assumptions there is direct evidence. The use of products containing GMOs, leads to metabolic disorders of the human body, allergic reactions, decreased immunity.


      Also, scientists have proved that the use of GMOs for growing vegetables and fruits leads to the appearance of genetically modified weedsthat displace natural plants. Scientists have proved that genetically modified vegetables are toxic, noticed the effect of GMOs on human reproduction.

      Even insect pests do not risk attacking plants with GMOs. GMO plants, in turn, can interbreed, resulting in mutated individuals.

      GMO plants can lead to the following diseases: allergies, cancer, diabetes mellitus, metabolic disorders.


      Therefore, the store must be careful about such products. Most often there is a marking on the package, but not always. In this case, you should pay attention to additives. Almost all food additives of group E are dangerous to humans.

      Particularly dangerous are additives E-103, E-104, E-122, E-141, E-150, E-171, E-173. Having seen these food additives on the package, it’s worth several times to think about whether it is worth eating such food.


      It is believed that genes added to food products can cause a mutation in the human body after eating food. So, for example, for cold resistance, a fish gene is added to vegetables. It is interesting what it can do in the human body.

      GMOs also have a great impact on human immunity.which becomes antibiotic-resistantwhich are very necessary in case of illness.


      Scientists are paying much attention to the study of the effects of GMOs on the human body. So far, most scientists are inclined to believe that GMOs harm the body. Therefore, in some countries a moratorium on the manufacture of such products has been introduced.


      People would like to advise to bypass the store shelves with products containing GMOs. Fruits and vegetables are best grown on their own, without the use of any gene additives. Do not chase the cheapness.

      It’s better to pay more for a quality product and stay healthy. Not always what looks beautiful is useful!
  32. 0
    5 May 2012 00: 39
    Quote: Ataturk
    What is bad here, you think, the more genetically modified foods are cheaper than usual ?! However, not everything is so good, because it is already known that there is a detrimental effect of GMOs on human health, the reproduction of its reproductive organs.

    who knows? based on what research?

    Quote: Ataturk
    Undoubtedly, this will be a great achievement of mankind in the field of transplantation of internal organs, however, these are still only assumptions that have no evidence.

    here) where is the evidence of harm? no one has canceled the presumption of innocence)
    Quote: Ataturk
    Also, scientists have proved that the use of GMOs for growing vegetables and fruits leads to the appearance of genetically modified weeds, which supplant


    what "scientists"? in the studio of the surname.
    Quote: Ataturk
    GMO plants can lead to the following diseases: allergies, cancer, diabetes mellitus, metabolic disorders.

    the key word may or may not. causal relationship where?

    further nonsense too, GMO is allowed in America, in the EU they also simplify its sale now) and this is only because they also learned how to) make a good and cheap product)
  33. +2
    5 May 2012 00: 55
    here is obscene but profitable)
    http://www.razgovor.org/special/article503/?post_id=13238

    and here without a mat and from a scientific point of view) not some "scientists" but quite specific professionals) of their business

    http://progenes.livejournal.com/58025.html
    http://velta-1.livejournal.com/37351.html
  34. Nechai
    +1
    5 May 2012 02: 40
    Lads turn on the logic, just plain. On the way to the stomach, the composition of the incoming food is examined by various receptors in the body. Yeah, the organism has been determined, this is such a product, for its splitting and assimilation it is necessary to add (remove) such enzymes by the pancreas to the composition of gastric juice. Everything is split, everything is assimilated as intended. Something for energy, something for the regeneration of the body. But the sutuation with GMO - identified, isolated, but not completely split, because This product contains many molecular structures that cannot be cleaved by this set of enzymes. Something from this "miracle" is removed from the body, but something remains, clinging to some fragment, directed by the body to the "old address". And it rushed .... Maybe someday the organism will learn to recognize these bookmarks, only it will be a mutated organism. Here's the thing. In Soviet times, cows were brought to the North, hay, compound feed for them - it's a good thing to give the children of the peoples of the North fresh milk in boarding schools. Not a cheap, but a noble, useful deed! What are the scores. Only one thing was left out. In purebred indigenous people, and in mestizos in very many, the pancreas DOES NOT PRODUCE the necessary enzymes for the breakdown of lactose. Just simply. These peoples do not have a thousand-year experience of consuming cow's milk. What happened to the kids after a glass of milk, I think there is no need to tell?
  35. 0
    5 May 2012 07: 41
    Quote: Nechai
    But the sutuation with GMO - identified, isolated, but not completely split, because This product contains many molecular structures that cannot be cleaved by this set of enzymes. Something from this "miracle" is removed from the body, but something remains, clinging to some fragment, directed by the body to the "old address". And it rushed ...

    The error is in the logic ... Lactose is not GMOs, this is not DNA, or even part of DNA)

    Lactose (from lat. Lactis - milk) C12H22O11 - a carbohydrate of the disaccharide group, found in milk and dairy products. The lactose molecule is composed of residues of glucose and galactose molecules.

    and the fact that in GMO products there are some kind of new non-split molecules at the moment, science has not been established))

    Quote: Nechai
    What happened to the kids after a glass of milk, I think you don’t need to tell


    "Symptoms of lactase deficiency are determined by overgrowth and increased activity of the intestinal microflora that assimilates lactose, as well as the osmotic effect of undigested lactose in the intestine (water retention in feces). The main symptoms of lactase deficiency are: Flatulence (bloating), abdominal pain, diarrhea , less often vomiting. In children, lactase deficiency can manifest itself as chronic constipation, anxiety and crying after eating. It should be noted that the symptoms of lactase deficiency are always associated with the consumption of foods containing lactose. "

    this is not a mutation) there are thousands of such examples, and they are NEVER RELATED to GMOs, they are studied and logically explained.
  36. 0
    5 May 2012 14: 00
    GMOs are not so much scary for us as for the next generations. They will suffer for what their parents ate. Five years ago, I said that GMOs are a time bomb, and the consequences will not be predictable, but it’s certain that they are bad. It is almost impossible to collect information on developments in the field of GMOs, one surface information. One thing is certain, the money allocated to these studies is fabulous. The military is resting. Here is a tiny fact about the harmlessness of GMOs - birds do not particularly eat GMO cereals, bees do not pollinate GMO plants. And nature is not a fool - you cannot fool it.
  37. 0
    5 May 2012 14: 45
    Quote: Averias
    GMOs are not so much scary for us as for the next generations. They will suffer for what their parents ate. Five years ago, I said that GMOs are a time bomb, and the consequences will not be predictable, but it’s certain that they are bad. It is almost impossible to collect information on developments in the field of GMOs, one surface information. One thing is certain, the money allocated to these studies is fabulous. The military is resting. Here is a tiny fact about the harmlessness of GMOs - birds do not particularly eat GMO cereals, bees do not pollinate GMO plants. And nature is not a fool - you cannot fool it.


    on superficial information superficial judgments) read what experts write
  38. 0
    5 May 2012 22: 01
    the story with GMOs is very similar to the story with cell phones - everyone heard that it’s harmful, but everyone uses it, right? With intensive production technologies, in principle, the release of environmentally friendly products is not planned. in Europe, they all understand this very well and have a choice — if you want, take the usual product, beautiful and brilliant, and if you want, pay three times as much and take the sloppy, small but environmentally friendly ones off the shelves. such things.
  39. Anton Tarasov
    0
    April 27 2013 16: 16
    What do you mean, take it, but want not -
    All imports are not GMO labeled
  40. Anton Tarasov
    0
    10 May 2013 19: 26
    Created a selection on the topic:
    Food Security - Protecting Next Generations
    http://vk.com/topic-47968942_28555648
  41. Anton Tarasov
    0
    27 July 2013 18: 42
    It is necessary to try to change the paradigm in the fight for freedom from GMO infection
    To do this, ask the right questions ...

    - Why are hundreds of GM lines tested units?
    : the answer is obvious, if they do not pass, it means that feeding the experimental animals led to their death or pathological changes. It is necessary to understand the reasons for this, and not to add the stamp “Commercial Secret” on the GM line

    - Why are foreign researchers on GM lines forced to (do not want to remain without work and recommendations) sign an agreement on a lifetime (no statute of limitations) non-disclosure of work results?
    : the answer is obvious - this can undermine confidence in GMOs, and as a result will lead to losses. The inhabitants will not like the information about the prohibitively high mortality of experimental animals.

    - Why not cross-testing of GM lines?
    : the answer is obvious - it is not economically feasible. It is almost impossible to prove the cause of the disease, so it makes no sense to spend money on testing or to pay compensation to the victims cheaper (practice is)

    - Why did GM corporations recognize the experiments of the Doctor of Biological Sciences, an expert of the NATO-Russia Committee on Food Chain Safety, a member of the UN Women's Ecological Association at the United Nations, French researcher Seralini, ... not trustworthy?
    : answer - GM corporations wrote requirements for themselves, so it is impossible for independent researchers to fulfill three main points:
    1) Research should be carried out under the conditions and under the full control of the representatives of GM companies (already under this item it will not be possible to call them independent).
    2) You need to test not flour or grown grains, but the original seed
    3) For research in the laboratory, a natural habitat for experimental animals must be created (this point is technically not feasible even for a few rodents, not to mention a few hundred).

    - Why did the experiments of Ermakova and Seralini lead to the death of experimental animals?
    : the answer is, they fed rodents throughout their lives, and according to the rules of testing the USA and the European Union, toxicological studies in animals - 180 days or 90 days.
    Rosselkhoznadzor: http://www.fsvps.ru/fsvps/structure/terorgs/lipeck/ne ..

    - Why does the law in force in Russia regulate the mandatory labeling of products containing GMOs in an amount of more than 0,9%? (labeling without GMOs requires a content of 0,9% GMO infection or per 1 ton of flour - 90 kg of infection)?
    : answer - in the rules you can write that a 100 meter strip around the crops of GM lines provides the surrounding fields from GM infection. In reality, pollen carries tens of kilometers. The spread of GMO infection is in the interest of GM corporations

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