At the rehearsal of the parade in Moscow for the first time showed the UAV "Corsair"

During the night rehearsal of the Victory Parade in Moscow, two Russian drone Corsair, reports TASS.

One of the UAVs is of a helicopter type, the other is of an aircraft type. The purpose of both types - striking and conducting electronic warfare, reconnaissance, delivery of goods.

It is reported that the "aircraft" Corsair "is built of composites in an aerodynamic configuration with a pusher propeller, has a mass of about 200 kg and can carry" Attack "guided missiles, as well as multi-purpose rocket grenades.

"Helicopter" Corsair "is built according to the scheme with coaxial screws, which provides him with high maneuverability. Unlike the aircraft type, it can take off and land from small and unprepared sites, it can be used both in the ground forces and on navy. The UAV also has guided and unguided missiles in service, ”the publication says.

Among the new products were also presented robotic systems “Uran-6” and “Uran-9”, a support combat vehicle tanks "Terminator 2". In total, over 120 pieces of equipment will pass in a mechanized column on Red Square.

Comments

[Vard]

I am glad that in the case of applying all this ... the glands will die ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Why should we show them at the Parade ..? In Syria, it would be better to show .. in the Baltic states, etc.

[rrrd]

The first time I agree with you! at the parade it is terrifying! Soon, as in the Baltic countries, inflatable boats will begin to roll out!

[uav80]

The trays are all right, finally our snowmobiles handed out from OKUSHKI decided to show ...

[RUSS]

Quote: uav80

The trays are all right, finally our snowmobiles handed out from OKUSHKI decided to show ...

Do you know anything about this snowmobile before talking rubbish

[uav80]

What you need to know, a 2-seater heated cabin, a couple more can be planted on the engine compartment at the back, two skis, two goose dogs, a vaz 2121 carburetor engine, speed up to 65 km / h

[RUSS]

Quote: rrrd

The first time I agree with you! at the parade it is terrifying! Soon, as in the Baltic countries, inflatable boats will begin to roll out!

You are those of them who just don’t like something, always something is wrong! A real internet crying man.

[rrrd]

And what should like here !? The once great country launched the first satellite into orbit, the first man into space. rolls out trash that has no analogues in the world. It would be better to put plasma on the Red Square and show all the yachts of Abram.

[210ox]

In Syria, they showed for sure. And they will show for us so that the people would know that there is gunpowder in the flocks ..

Quote: MIKHAN

Why should we show them at the Parade ..? In Syria, it would be better to show .. in the Baltic states, etc.

[Vladimir 5]

An optimist you however. In Syria, single “green” samples were worked out for further development. It seems that today new weapons are being made for parades, as with Armata and others. All this ceremonial leapfrog looks like dust in the eyes, it’s not the time to return to the early installations, to show only the ones introduced in large quantities, and not to turn into an exhibition of inventions in single raw copies ...

[Shurik70]

And what kind of photo in the article? Corsair that's what it looks like

Here is an article about him
http://avia.pro/blog/korsar-tehnicheskie-harakter
istiki-foto

[helmi8]

Quote: Shurik70

And what kind of photo in the article? Corsair that's what it looks like

So he himself is, only with folded keels and without planes.

[Shurik70]

May be. The chassis design is exactly different. It seems that over the year they finalized and made it retractable.
Keels and wings okay, folded-unfastened (little space at the exhibition).
But wings, legs are all bullshit. WHERE A TAIL ?! You can’t see the tail plane at all, but you can’t say about it that it occupies a place ...
UNDERSTAND! The tail folds up too!

[uav80]

The keel is just on the sister and stands as it should. This post-camera angle is unsuccessful for Shurik70 ...
But they will go with wings as expected ..

[Kent0001]

Why not. That's why he parade to show the best developments. And the people see and evaluate the adversary.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: 210ox

In Syria, they showed for sure. And they will show for us so that the people would know that there is gunpowder in the flocks ..

It would be better if more tanks were shown .. It always effectively affects "our partners"!

[NEXUS]

Quote: For example

As a result, the enemy must perish. Otherwise, neher to use these "glands".

This is not a shock UAV, but a scout. And we desperately need a strike UAV in both 5 tons and 20 tons. In this matter, we are ten years behind the adversary.

[210ox]

For two decades .. Unfortunately

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: For example

As a result, the enemy must perish. Otherwise, neher to use these "glands".

This is not a shock UAV, but a scout. And we desperately need a strike UAV in both 5 tons and 20 tons. In this matter, we are ten years behind the adversary.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

the upcoming parade, somehow ... embarrassing. some kind of "drones" on trailers, "quadrics" ... why is this? with UAVs, we are understandable, we are 20 years behind, China, and that, shamelessly copying, stamps them with might and main, but with its own element base. let only one heavy equipment go, and the fighters, and so, the impression that we are sliding to the "window dressing" ... also the Mausoleum is again pounded with plywood ... it's ugly like that. as if V.I. Lenin was not involved in the creation of the Red Army, which won the WWII. well, at least a guide, I stopped sitting on the chairs.

[rrrd]

here I am about too.

[cariperpaint]

what's wrong with that?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

the upcoming parade, somehow ... embarrassing. some kind of "drones" on trailers, "quadrics" ... why is this?

And we demonstrate to the people what we have. Already, I'm sorry. Trailer drones ... so they are small in size and if they are put into the sky, who can see them there?

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

also the Mausoleum is again pounded with plywood ... it's ugly like that. as if V.I. Lenin was not involved in the creation of the Red Army, which won the WWII

Lenin was involved ... but to keep the mummy, like the Gentiles, in the middle of the country, too, is somehow not beautiful. This is not the power of a saint, excuse me.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: NEXUS

And we demonstrate to the people what we have

fun people ...

Quote: NEXUS

Lenin was involved ... but to keep the mummy, like the Gentiles, in the middle of the country, too, is somehow not beautiful. This is not the power of a saint, excuse me.

it depends. Lenin has done more for the country than some of the "relics of saints." And his body is located, below ground level, and not on the street, but in the Mausoleum. It offends someone, it may not walk.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

but at the Mausoleum it offends, may not walk.

This is not an insult. I do not want to start polemics and debates about who Lenin is and what he has done for the country, this is a different matter. The question is, there were people who served the country and made much more for it and no one is building mausoleums for them. For example: Chelomei, Korolev, Sakharov ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: NEXUS

This is not a shock UAV

well it is written

can carry “Attack” guided missiles, as well as multi-purpose rocket-propelled grenades. ”

or give you only a 20-ton UAV? This will not happen. Not because we can’t create it, but because the price of these toys is sky-high and chasing the United States is like trying to catch them with aircraft carriers. The maximum that will be in Russia is drones before 5 tons (although more often you can find a figure of 3 tons). If they do it wisely then 100% will be enough.

[Ryazan87]

"well it is written"
- Well then, the militants of an unnamed state have succeeded viciously in creating "shock UAVs." The Corsair is a short-range tactical reconnaissance apparatus. The opportunity to “fasten” some weapons to him does not make him shock even once.
"So it will not be. Not because we cannot create"
We really can’t yet. “Orion” could be mastered, although for the Americans this is yesterday.
Meanwhile, heavy drones are the future of combat aircraft (certainly in the attack segment). And unlike an aircraft carrier, they are very necessary for the Russian army. Mayors Filippov may not be enough.
Yes, try to draw a connecting thread between the drone class and such characteristics as the radius of action, the mass of the payload and the nomenclature of the weapons used.
And “Corsair” ... well, potentially also a useful thing.

[NN52]

Ryazan87
And from what height will heavy drones strike?

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ryazanets87

The opportunity to “fasten” some weapons to him does not make him shock even once.

you confuse the possibility of stupid dropping bombs and the ability to work with guided weapons such as missiles.
In one case, this is a stupid craft; in another case, it is a real weapon capable of destroying both stationary objects and in motion.

Quote: Ryazanets87

Meanwhile, heavy drones are the future of combat aircraft

at the moment it is an expensive toy and an easy target of modern air defense. One hit and hundreds of millions of dollars lie on the ground in the form of a pile of rubbish.
The shock UAV is currently a weapon against states with sticks (without air defense) and militants. What will happen next.

[Praetorian4]

Quote: lopvlad

One hit and hundreds of millions of dollars

Yes there are tens of billions! (no)

[lopvlad]

RQ-4 Global Hawk $ 140 million per unit

if you take the drums, then there are stupid for 20 tons stupidly no.
MQ-9 Reaper the only U.S. Army strike drone weighs up to 5 tons and flies at the speed of a maize (maximum 400km per hour)
It carries armaments not of 100500 missiles and bombs, but a maximum of four guided missiles (the Americans have very heavy smart missiles).
With a wingspan of 20 meters and a unit cost of 17 million ($ 16.9 million).

[Praetorian4]

You understand that in our country there will be no shock drones at that price? If you mean the USA, then you are right, of course. There, the more expensive, the better.
And I meant our country, of course. In our reality, doing such a firing pin is 2-3 times more expensive than a fighter. So there will be (if any) something at the price of the Yak-130. I see so.

[Ryazan87]

"In one case, this is a dumb craft" - not so dumb, by the way. In Syria, she established herself precisely as a real weapon - it’s not a problem to find videos of an unnamed state on this subject in the network. But what Corsair with “Attack” will portray there is a big question, especially in motion (this is not very convincing for helicopter pilots so far). Well, yes it is lyrics.
"at the moment it is an expensive toy and an easy target of modern air defense." - Yes, in terms of the fact that a simple target for modern air defense. Unfortunately, the same can be said about the Su-25. Examples are Afghanistan, Chechnya, South Ossetia, Donbass, Syria.
There was no modern air defense (except for the Georgians, and you understand it yourself), and the losses of the attack aircraft were tangible.
The question of the loss ratio of an armored shooter + trained pilot or strike UAV will be left open. There is already a question of priorities.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Ryazanets87

Unfortunately, the same can be said about the Su-25

drying is survivable at times, and losses earlier and now occur if the aircraft operates at a low altitude above the battlefield. The United States uses drones almost always in the absence of air defense and never above the battlefield.
The problems of the SU-25 in Ossetia are practically resolved in the SU-25SM3.
Drones are indispensable in reconnaissance and strike drones make sense if the price + efficiency ratio is reached. But I think that this is possible with drones weighing up to 3 tons with weapons + they should support the use of standard air-to-surface missiles (such as attack) and air-to-air missiles such as in the portable "POWDER" (to deal with enemy aircraft and helicopters)

[helmi8]

Quote: NEXUS

And we desperately need an impact UAV in both 5 tons and 20 tons

What do you mean by weight - take-off or payload mass?

[NEXUS]

Quote: helmi8

What do you mean by weight - take-off or payload mass?

The mass of the apparatus.

[sir_obs]

The name could come up with more Russian

[XXXIII]

Quote: sir_obs

The name could come up with more Russian

Butterfly.....

[cariperpaint]

But what is the Russian name?)))))) or the word corsair in the Russian language is not? it's like not to like the word shoes and shoes with bast shoes to call for example)

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: cariperpaint

But what is the Russian name?)))))) or the word corsair in the Russian language is not? it's like not to like the word shoes and shoes with bast shoes to call for example)

Well, yes ... "pirates" is our everything ...

[cariperpaint]

corsairs to pirates have nothing to do with the word at all

[Avis-bis]

Quote: cariperpaint

corsairs to pirates have nothing to do with the word at all

And to whom else?
Corsair (Corsair) - private sailors, equipped with the permission of the government owned their ships for capture of enemy merchant ships. Marine guerrillas often with their ships were part of the navy for cruising, reconnaissance, and messenger service.

Marine dictionary of terms.


Corsair - (from Italian. Corsaro) sea robber. Initially (from about the 14th century), Kazakhstan was called the sea robbers of North Africa, later the term received a broader meaning and became synonymous with the term "pirate" (see. Piracy)

TSB

[cariperpaint]

equipped with the permission of the government their owned vessels to capture the enemy's merchant ships) the answer in this phrase. the difference between them in relation to them the law of that time. some worked on the crown, roughly speaking, mercenaries. others are roughly robbers. some could get off at the port calmly and live an ordinary life; others, until the end of their life, were wanted

[Avis-bis]

Quote: cariperpaint

equipped with the permission of the government their owned vessels to capture the enemy's merchant ships) the answer in this phrase.

No. The difference is that corsairs are not privateers. And even corsairs are pirates for the "other" side. TSB clearly writes that “pirate” and “corsair” are synonyms. Well, if the Russian phrase "sea robber" is not a synonym for the foreign word "pirate", tady kanechna ... :)
“Corsair2 is only one of the synonyms of the“ parat. ”Filibusters, buccaneers, pirates, ear-makers, corsairs ... The difference is small. If at all.

[rotor]

Funny with lights for pilots.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: rotor

Funny with lights for pilots.

yeah ... but about the "helicopter" which will probably be taken on a trailer in the parade, how many are there in the army? Why should such "mock-ups" be brought to the public.

[keeper03]

Citizens forum users, and you noticed how many stars on board this drone ?!

[rotor]

Yes, an interesting instance, where only the stars come from, from Syria or what? And so I also noticed planes with asterisks on the MAX, like we’re not fighting with anyone, and all the sides are in asterisks.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: keeper03

Citizens forum users, and you noticed how many stars on board this drone ?!

"stars" could not see ... some kind of dark spots, perhaps the inscription.

[keeper03]

At leastve big! And 10 tiny ones!

[san4es]

One of the drones is a helicopter type, the other is a plane type.

http://bastion-karpenko.ru/korsar-bla/

[NN52]

Good news!
In the right direction, the MO is moving ... But it does not stand still.
And 20 ton UAVs are nothing for us ..
Mach 5-10 t. My opinion.

[san4es]

Hey.
... they would fly to build

[NN52]

Hey.

Nizya ... There drones fly .. Yes, and the gps signal with glonas is buggy there ....

[Wizard_57]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

"stars" could not consider ...

Quote: MIKHAN

In Syria, it would be better to show ..

Stars on the fuselage are both large (2) and small (8).
The size, apparently, depends on the result of combat use.

[Frida Freiman]

What’s up there at the top that set off completely unmanned on trailers? as if on a hearse ... It's a shame as much as a horror. Here from cartoons yet how it will not let go ....)) Yeah, shame.

[MIG00001]

when scouts will make drones for the purpose of pointing and searching for an adversary on EVERY tank. It’s not clear why there isn’t yet since they are cheap small

[Avis-bis]

Quote: MIG00001

when scouts will make drones for the purpose of pointing and searching for an adversary on EVERY tank. It’s not clear why there isn’t yet since they are cheap small

And, it seems, something like that was announced in the medium term ...

[Mentat]

Quote: lopvlad

Quote: NEXUS

This is not a shock UAV

well it is written

can carry “Attack” guided missiles, as well as multi-purpose rocket-propelled grenades. ”

or give you only a 20-ton UAV? This will not happen. Not because we can’t create it, but because the price of these toys is sky-high and chasing the United States is like trying to catch them with aircraft carriers. The maximum that will be in Russia is drones before 5 tons (although more often you can find a figure of 3 tons). If they do it wisely then 100% will be enough.

This is not the only point. Display today in a series of UAVs of the last generation is impractical. Although, of course, economic considerations are not in last place. Already painted here on the forum, how and why heavy UAVs of the current generation are economically absolutely failing.

[mr.ZinGer]

Military parade, in my opinion this is a demonstration of spirit and training. And robotic iron should be in warehouses and demonstrated at exhibitions and shows.

[Patriot5000]

I don’t know, since childhood I loved technology. parade drill did not like. so now. but I agree when the ICBMs go or planes fly this thing ...

[Patriot5000]

I have a familiar contractor who controls a UAV with a delta wing. complains about the poor quality of cameras and pictures. although you can’t pull it out of the radio channel anymore. yet in real time at 30-50 km. transferring the video is difficult.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Quote: Vitaly Anisimov

Why should we show them at the Parade ..? In Syria, it would be better to show .. in the Baltic states, etc.

Even after 5 years they can't show