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Will the American fleet appear on the Caspian? Yes, if you master teleportation!

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19 April, the Senate of Kazakhstan ratified the Protocol on Amendments to the Intergovernmental Agreement with the United States on the Provision of Commercial Railway Transit Special Cargo through the Republic in connection with the participation of Americans in the efforts to stabilize and rebuild Afghanistan. And these changes, including the permission to use the Caspian ports Aktau and Kuryk for the transit of these goods to Afghanistan, have caused yet another attack of alarmist sentiment among a number of experts and journalists of our media.




They say that now the Americans will build naval bases in Kazakhstan, American warships will appear on the Caspian Sea. Some people wrote that Kazakhstan supposedly "betrayed" Russia and in general "changed the strategic balance of forces". But is it?

By themselves, the "remarks" on the theme "Kazakhstan will soon allow the US Navy to its bases" or "The US bases in Aktau" have quite a long history. And in 2000-s such rumors were periodically exaggerated both in Kazakhstan and Russia, and as a rule, nothing stood behind them and nothing real happened. In 2013 Kazakhstan’s President Nursultan Nazarbayev at the Istanbul Process Conference on Afghanistan declared his readiness "to expand the transit potential for NATO cargo at the expense of the Caspian Kazakh port of Aktau." But nothing more followed, despite the fact that at that time the Americans already collapsed their logistics along the "northern supply route" because they were forced to close the Manas Transit Center in Kyrgyzstan (until 2009 was a military base) . But about the "US military base in Aktau," even then, the press had trampled down. At the same time, Russia at that time itself provided transit for the United States and NATO to Afghanistan, and the question of a transit terminal was even discussed at one time. Actually, the profit on this transit was rather big enough for all Central Asian states tied to it.

Most recently, last year, the story of the "base in Aktau" again surfaced in the press, when a five-year plan on military cooperation for the period 2018-2022 was signed between the USA and Kazakhstan. - not the first such plan between these countries (and not only these, and between the United States and the Russian Federation, such documents were concluded, this is a formal procedure). And again, it was about the “military base”, without supporting any evidence, referring to a document in which there was nothing of the kind. There were all sorts of plans for the exchange of military delegations, military exercises (ordinary micro-events for a tick at the level of platoons or companies) and US assistance in training qualified personnel for the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan. There was something about the transfer of small batches of weapons to the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan from the available stock of the US Armed Forces - also nothing new, the Kazakh Armed Forces and Iroquois old UH-1 helicopters, and Humvi cars and so on. Any Turkish and South Korean outdated floating junk was received as a gift, which was written off very quickly or was simply listed on the balance sheet (and the budget money was used for its maintenance). Usually all these gifts are described by the phrase "here you are, God, we are not fit."

And now the topic with a transit corridor has resurfaced. And this is understandable, because the transit for the United States has been stopped through the Russian Federation, and although they have little troops left in Afghanistan, they still need to carry cargo. And the southern, Pakistani route is also not sugar, there both burn and rob these loads to all and sundry, and various local tribes are engaged in racket along the way. Officially, their “services” are paid for as “assistance in protecting routes”, but those who remember 90 in Russia remember similar “helpers”, only in those parts they don’t own anything else and they don’t own “fenies”. Moreover, Pakistan itself has repeatedly blocked transit during the deterioration of relations with the United States. That is why the Americans appreciated the northern route, it was more predictable, but these times have passed. Yes, we managed to come to an agreement with Kazakhstan, but the resulting “new northern route”, to put it mildly, looks simply “brilliantly” from the point of view of logistics. By sea through the Black Sea straits to Georgia, from there to Azerbaijan, then by sea through the Caspian Sea to Aktau or Kuryk, and then through Kazakhstan and the other republics of Central Asia to Afghanistan. But there are no other options. So, there is not a word about the base in this ratified document! Only a transit terminal, similar to what could have appeared in Russia (and, by the way, they also saw a “military base” in it). This is a completely different level in everything, including extraterritoriality and protection.

But no, supporters of conspiracy theories and simply on duty alarmists do not calm down, but what if the words about the cargo terminal are only a cover, and instead there will appear US Navy ships and a military base? There will be no ships or base. Neither the USA nor Russia have invented teleportation, especially such items as warships. You can either get to the Caspian Sea or through the inland waterways of Russia (that is, for the Americans this option is closed), or somehow through Iran, the ships can’t get there anymore. Is it possible, in theory, to disassemble some or several boats and send them in parts, taking them by air? Can. But it will be all there motor rubber and rubber-metal boats, which you can not carry, you can buy on the spot. The US Navy does not have ships like ours, say, missile boats or something like that, so that we could disassemble and ship them in this way, not to mention the fact that the transfer will be "golden." More precisely, there are still 13 patrol boats, such as the Cyclone, 338 with a displacement and with weapons from the 25 mm cannon and several machine guns. But the US needs them in the Persian Gulf in order to have at least something similar to their Iranian counterparts. They are also needed in Florida, where they are engaged in the fight against drug trafficking and illegal immigration. By the way, how is it there, “Trump's wall”, already, I suppose, half of the border was fenced off and not higher than Great China’s in height? What, how is "like Yatsenyuk"? Can not be, can such a person like Trump - lie?

There are similar boats in the US Coast Guard, but they are also very necessary there, and new ones, such as the Sentinel, and old ones, such as the Island, which are slowly, in the process of being replaced by successors, are handed out to different illiterate savages, like Georgians or the Ukrainian junta. .

And most importantly, even if you somehow disassemble several boats and ferry, the question remains - why? The real threat to Russia and its Red Banner Caspian Flotillas (CCFL) and the forces of the Maritime Border Service in the Caspian Sea, they will not be able to represent themselves, nor even if they are combined with the Azerbaijani and Kazakhstani Navy. Even if we forget about the airborne forces prevailing in the region, about coastal anti-ship missile systems, about the water surface control system, including the “Sunflower” surface-wave radar, and just look at the combat strength of our naval forces in the region, it becomes clear and to the child.

In KKFL 2 of the Dagestan and Tatarstan missiles is in service, one of them is armed with the Caliber-NK complex with cruise missiles (KR) 3М14 Caliber and anti-ship 3М54 Turquoise 3M55 "Onyx", but in practice, it seems, they are not there yet), the second - PKR "Uran-U". There are also 3 small rocket ships of the "Buyan-M" type with the same Caliber-NK complex, 3 small artillery ships of the "Buyan" type, 1 rocket boat (with outdated Termite anti-ship missiles), used to launch them as targets on exercises), 1 small artillery ship of the type "Lightning", 4 armored boats of the type "Bumblebee", a dozen two other combat units - artillery boats, landing craft, base and raid minesweepers.

The FSB command in the Caspian still has 30 units - 12 border patrol ships of various classes, from 300 to 740 tons, 12 border patrol boats, 4 border support ships, 2 border patrol vessels. Moreover, most of these units were built already in this century, and more recently, others - the buildings of the 90-ies, the Soviet-built almost nothing left, that is, fairly new ships and boats. The border guards are not armed with a pair of machine guns and a cannon, as is customary in Americans on boats, but mainly 76mm by automatic artillery installation, 30mm six-barreled rapid-fire "meat grinders" and other things. This force in the Caspian has no rivals, and Iran is also not an opponent here.

It is also impossible for Iran to create problems with several boats. Just attend? There's no point. In addition, both Kazakhstan and all other countries of the basin generally agree with the provision on preventing any “non-local” in the region. In general, the Americans themselves will not get into this business, the game is not worth the candle. And transit is important to them.

But what really could be feared was intelligence activities. Or sabotage. Say, to bring different underwater means of the “dry” or “wet” type on the sly, underwater tugs and various equipment for reconnaissance divers and divers themselves from the US Navy reconnaissance and sabotage units - and you can spy and arrange sabotage. But sabotage is absolutely the last thing, our relations with the United States have not yet reached such a level, and we also have to arrange them in the Caspian Sea to whom and with what. But why even for this transit terminal? It is possible to agree on such a thing, behind the scenes. And not necessarily with Kazakhstan, there are more conspicuous countries in the region. But we still need to take this factor into account.

We can assume even this moment. As you know, from Kapustin Yar to Sary-Shagan on Balkhash there passes a “southern short test track”, on which our strategic missile forces are experiencing advanced combat equipment in those modes that our “probable partners No. XXUMX” do not need to see. A lot of interesting things are being tested there on the subject of missile defense. And precisely because the American technical means do not view this route in any way. In addition, it is clear that satellites flying past, but the flight schedule is hanging everywhere and everywhere in the respective institutions and units, and no one will experience anything at such moments. In theory, it is possible, having filled several containers, ostensibly for Afghanistan, with various intelligence equipment, something useful for them there and find out while the containers are at the terminal in Aktau or Kuryk. Or while from there they go to Afghanistan. But again, if you connect the logic, "container transit intelligence" has existed for a very long time, and it does not need any terminal. Yes, and you will not learn anything about the subject of the Strategic Missile Forces, the Strategic Nuclear Forces or ABM with the help of such containers, especially valuable. Here we need a serious center with specific and bulky equipment that will "light up" very quickly. And Kazakhstan will have problems that he does not need. But one way or another, the corresponding variant of our authorities, as a fairly real one, needs to be taken into account. Yes, they certainly take it into account.

And most importantly - why does Kazakhstan need it? The republic has extensive cooperation with Russia, including military ones - the exercises are being held, a single air defense system and so on. Also, there are large deliveries through the military-technical cooperation. For example, deliveries of Su-30SME fighters (8 delivered, 16 ordered), Mi-171Sh and Mi-17В5 helicopters (delivered more than 20 machines), Il-76MD-90А planes ordered, there are extensive plans for the purchase of ZRS-400MD-XNUMXА, there are extensive plans for the purchase of ZRS-XNUMXМД-XNUMXА, there are extensive plans for the purchase of ZRS-XNUMXМД-XNUMXА; "Pantsir-S", on the modernization of armored vehicles, etc. etc.

Yes, the Kazakh leadership periodically tries to preserve the "multi-vector" policy, acting on the principle of Truffaldino from Bergamo, serving two masters at the same time, but was not noticed in the openly anti-Russian policy. Even plans to replace the Cyrillic alphabet are the usual stupidity of the “great Elbasy”, rather than the anti-Russian step, well, the old Nazarbayev, that you will take it from him. To consider yourself very cunning and to love money is a sin, but not so great. The main thing is that instead of being rewarded for serving the two gentlemen Truffaldino, the Kazakh will not fly in from one of them. Or he did not deceive himself.

The Russian leadership has ignored the transit history for the time being, underscored it means that probably it sees no threat and everything is agreed. Or the reaction is not only until ...

In general, wherever the Americans have agreed to build for themselves or for another country, at least a booth for a rural toilet of the "toilet" type, many immediately see a military base of the level, probably Fort Hood, Rammstein or Grafenvera. Or Norfolk, if the toilet is being built in the port. So it was quite recently, when the US military builders from the 1-th mobile building battalion of the US Navy in the Ukrainian Ochakiv on the territory of the naval base of the Navy were building the operation of a certain naval center of Ukraine. In reality, on the shore, slightly trimming the soil with a small Caterpillar excavator, from a dozen and a half guys in construction helmets under the command of a lieutenant were slowly collected from a wooden bar and laminated plywood under small containers lugged with a loader (in the photos). That's the whole "center", and not American, but for the Ukrainians. And other facilities turned out to be just as “cyclopean in scale”, but the noise caused considerable. The same story seems to come out with Kazakhstan: no one really does anything yet, but the noise is already full!
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  1. cedar
    cedar April 28 2018 05: 27
    +22
    In heavy containers, you can now place a lot of different and most importantly dangerous things. From reconnaissance equipment and electronic warfare stations to missile launchers and UAVs, there would be a desire and an opportunity.
    The Naglosaksa have a desire to become their boot in the Caspian Sea and there is such an opportunity, and they will not miss their chance, so the author is minus ...
    1. midivan
      midivan April 28 2018 06: 09
      +7
      Quote: cedar
      In heavy containers, you can now place a lot of different and most importantly dangerous things. From reconnaissance equipment and electronic warfare stations to missile launchers and UAVs, there would be a desire and an opportunity.

      Well, what are they scouting there and who will be REB, our two "Buyans" or the sturgeon will be nightmare? We don’t need a visa there, so many “spies” from S. Naryshkin and S. Shoigu will catch up with us so that Americans don’t go to the toilet without our knowledge laughing And rocket launchers are generally cool, well, they’ll deliver and why they smell for us, and then why should Nazarbayev hang himself on his own tie? Yes, the author is right.
      1. raw174
        raw174 April 28 2018 08: 15
        +12
        Quote: midivan
        We don’t need a visa there, so many “spies” from S. Naryshkin and S. Shoigu will catch up with us so that Americans don’t go to the toilet without our knowledge

        Once upon a time they also spoke about Ukraine, even the Baltic states were under supervision ...
        Quote: midivan
        and then why should Nazarbayev hang himself on his tie? Yes, the author is right.

        This is a long game, Nazarbayev will be gone, and the US infrastructure will only grow ...
        Although you can not think about it, if anything, there will be enough hats for everyone!
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 28 2018 12: 47
          +3
          Quote: raw174
          Although you can not think about it, if anything, there will be enough hats for everyone!

          In the near future, it’s not enough ... The Caspian bases are crap, they don’t need to be surrounded, they themselves will be evacuated if that ... But the fact that our missile defense and air defense in this direction is based only on mutually beneficial cooperation with this republic creates unacceptable us conditions ... We at least five-year plow to plow at an accelerated pace that would close this gap ....
          1. Kasym
            Kasym April 28 2018 18: 40
            +10
            Nikolay, hello!
            Something is missing from the article. The fact is that the terminals are no longer needed. And that's why. The port of Kuryk was built last year, it is new and its feature is in ferries for transporting train trains - the locomotive and platforms with containers load quickly on the ferry. Therefore, overload is not needed. The train can go without stopping from the Black Sea (Georgia) to Afghanistan (the Uzbeks threw the road to Afghanistan after the collapse).
            The only hot spot for anti-aircraft defense is Afghanistan. Without him, I'm afraid ours would not have moved at all. Only recently began repairing the incoming S-300 on our Granite. Almaz-Antey began the transfer of techdocs. since the beginning of this year - according to the plan, this year only one division will undergo repairs. S-300. So the construction of a common air defense only at the beginning of the road - we have a focal system. Data from our surveillance equipment has already begun to arrive in Moscow. Decision making (button) at the National Academy of Sciences, but I also think that this is not the case. The whole system should be in the same hands - our military understands this too - so common sense should prevail.
            The Embassy of the KZ in the Russian Federation denied this stuffing about NATO bases in the Caspian. Also, the author does not indicate the law in the KZ adopted at the beginning of the XNUMXs. When NATO entered Afghanistan, the States requested a base in Alma-Ata. For a couple of weeks, a law was passed that without the approval of the CSTO countries, the deployment of military bases of third countries is prohibited. hi
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 28 2018 20: 24
              +3
              Hello Duren hi Well, in principle, you described everything correctly ... Indeed, taking into account Avgan, it seems like it’s not very, but you look at the confusion in the policy of the same Korea, which was not particularly defined (and cannot yet be determined) Iraq ... Iran with Pakistan the same format ... By definition, I can’t be sure of protecting the borders of Russia. I didn’t set an assessment as an amateur, indeed, we should close the air defense zone from the point of view of anti-aircraft defense ...
              1. Kasym
                Kasym April 28 2018 21: 05
                +7
                I understand you perfectly.
                Therefore, a bit of information, if interested of course. The program for the repair and modernization of weapons was launched 10 years ago. To do this, we purchased equipment for the repair of the T-72 tank in ... Kharkov with technical support. Therefore, Ukraine has limited capabilities for the T-72 (we are on time for this). Restored Semipal. tank repair plant - some walls without a roof remained. There, all of us and our BTT neighbors are being repaired. There are agreements with UVZ on moder. to the level of T-90 and the Terminator (they put it on arms). Since 11g. at the state defense order. Etc. throughout the military-industrial complex.
                In 15g. a new one was announced, but it was already talking about rearmament. Procurement has begun. And they built a factory from South Africa for armored personnel carriers, a factory with optics for the Turks. Granite has 4 units. There, the radar is repaired and assembled from Thales (France), one with Israel. Now here with Almaz-Antey, frequent guests have become. On Granite, all of their air defense systems were shamanized. Must buy Thor and Shell.
                Our raid - we are trying to keep up with the Russian Federation - up to 150 hours. comes in a year. True with the technique strained. Just as our people are active on this topic, it seems to me that our people hope for the Su-30SM and MiG-35. NAS 35 himself examined at the exhibition and talked for a long time with the MiG ... For this year, the Mi-35 and 17 and the Su-30SM on the Air Force - we are guessing how many. But I am sure that no more than each link - we will look
                NAS promises from 70% to 100% nova.
                Teachings are held regularly - it pleases. Tankers on Tank Biathlon seem to be stable in the top three. Ours say that with Arm.Games all polygons were subjugated. Several stages are going on. Of course, at 18 miles. it’s hard to cover such a space, but diplomats seem to eat their bread for good reason. With all, stable and good relations.
                Nikolay, it feels like the “body movements” in Afghanistan of the “partners” began to the side ... Iran, maybe Turkmenistan. hi
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN April 28 2018 21: 33
                  +3
                  Dauren All this is zorovy and I rejoiced with a pure heart. Moths co-workers live in Kazakhstan ... I myself am with Asia 2/3 of my life ... that’s why I’m upset ... we would live and live, but it’s more difficult for us, but the role of Kazakhstan is not enviable in the end .. Oh, if the people ruled, I have no doubt that they would only rejoice .... Regards hi
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym April 28 2018 22: 13
                    +8
                    Nikolay, you are already a wise man. Here's what else I would like to say ... The roll in the media is ... It all started with the Latin alphabet. There is no trace in the media. info. Russian was made in schools, regardless of the language of instruction, mandatory. In the most remote aul, Russian is in full with a liter-swarm. Previously, the program was severely truncated. Now the exam, exams. Now the same number of hours with Kazakh. The role of Russian reinforced. Knowing both state. language can apply for any post in the country, regardless of nationality - know only two languages ​​... The other day, the congress of the Assembly of Peoples of Kazakhstan, where all 130 diasporas are represented. Go to the site and see for yourself what rights this ANC has - you will be surprised. It is a pity that you do not write it. ANC has the right to impose VETO on any law that violates the unity of the peoples of the KZ. A unique organization - if only Ukraine would not have such a Maidan. It is prohibited by the laws (ANC - 9 seats in parliament with rotation of part 2, one seat forever behind the Russian diaspora in parliament, ANC with the right to write the law). and movement. according to nat., religion. etc. featured. Any similarities between the "Right Sector" and "Freedom" are prohibited ...
                    Then the run with 22 billion, which are already unfrozen. Now here are the bases that are even prohibited by law.
                    Do not be discouraged, in truth everything is normal with us. KZ - was, is and hopefully will be the most international in the Union. The NAS also sits so much in the chair and has such support among the people that it stands for integration and the Union. Those close to him believe that this is the goal of his whole life. He is the last of the Mohicans ...
                    All this is a rollback and fake news. I will try to keep up to date with the KZ. I play football with my "boys", showed a discussion on the bases in VO. Half a hour after the game and shower, with a cup of tea - we have a complete international. Even the Jew Sokolsky has something to speak for Russian or Uighur. hi
                    1. NIKNN
                      NIKNN April 28 2018 22: 23
                      +2
                      The media attack is ...
                      Believe me, I want to believe in it ... I myself already wrote in Asia ... I mastered the mentality ... I am not biased ... The same Kazakhs are my relatives and they proved it near Moscow in 41m ... All okay, and damn kazakhki beautiful girls ... i love it even ... nooo policy .. who agrees with us? 50 people took to the square in Armenia (also in Ukraine) (well, I’m speaking rudely and you understand) and the whole policy has changed .... Sadness ... if the rest were not in holes ... I think there would be no problems .. the mentality (no, not national) is political now ... And to you personally hi
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym April 29 2018 00: 38
                        +6
                        Nikolay, tomorrow is a day off, there is time to write. Hopefully read it tomorrow.
                        Latinization. In the Russian media, this topic is widely discussed. But here is what is not in your media ... From the history of the issue. We are well aware of the NAS as an integrator. CIS, EURASEC, CU, EAEU, SCO, CSTO, etc. created with his direct participation. The Kazakhstanis know that the Silk Road is his initiative, which was subsequently supported by the PRC. We began to build it from 95-96 with the conversion of the Druzhba station on a Japanese loan - Beijing then "slept" in this matter.
                        So here. After the refusal of the EBN in integration programs, the NAS took a vector for integration among Turkic states. The National Academy of Sciences has always spoken for what should not be on the border of “poor” states, from which only problems - prosperous neighbors are the key to the success of KZ. Therefore incl. this "vector". There are 6 of them, turks. state, of which 3 have the Latin alphabet and 3 Cyrillic. The Uzbeks who immediately switched to it, Azerbaijan and Turkey with a population of over 100 million. people, three others (including KZ) with the number of 30 million people. Cyrillic. It will be under the “plan” under 130 million against 10 mil ... The second point is that the Kazakhs (diasporas in other countries) have a different alphabet and correspondence with KZ is unreal ... Therefore, the conversation is about Latin. NAS started in the 90s. But according to all estimates, she will go until the end of this ... century. It is very expensive to reprint the entire world literature, printing houses, etc. .. Now imagine how creative intelligentsia move to the Latin alphabet? It is unrealistic now to force literate writing in Latin (and look illiterate ...), so she (the intelligentsia) will switch to other state. Russian language. belay If a hard option. Therefore, there will be a slow process. My son, for example, is in the Cyrillic alphabet - therefore, until the end of the ... century, these things. NASA already and we will not be. The Cyrillic alphabet is still in use in Uzbekistan, although it has been more or less over twenty years old ... "Let the elder enjoy amusement at old age" - one can often hear this from the intelligentsia, so they are silently accepting it ...
                        So, for the history of the integration of Turkic countries, about which there was no information in your media. Erdogan virtually ruined everything with his pan-Turkism. But Karimov could not stand him; and I nearly got into a fight with Rakhmon twice (NAS once dragged it away, another Kuchma). KZ, in my opinion, saw Tashkent as the "main" one - without it and its transport links integration is impossible, it has borders with everyone. In fact, the Turks consider their historian. the birthplace of KZ. Erdogan constantly says that he came home on visits. Well, Karimov in the end "closed up", closed the borders, mining, etc. .. Up to skirmishes on the borders with Tajiks and Kyrgyz. There was friction with the Turkmen. NAS was constantly in the middlemen and put out "misunderstandings", because with all the southern neighbors he approved the border ... There is no time for integration, the main vector of which is still Central Asia, and not Turkey. I am generally silent for Turkmenbashi - this one ignored everything ...
                        What fly of ANAS has bitten now to activate the Latin alphabet, about which since the 90s one boltology? Maybe the case is the new president of Uzbekistan? This one seems to have begun a more “sensible” policy in Central Asia.
                        My opinion. Even if you enter this Latin alphabet, you have to ... a wagon of time and money with a few more wagons - we have no time for this now. There is no money for that. Therefore, more noise about retraining personnel, etc. ... We'll see, but our generation will definitely be in the Cyrillic ... "Aksakal will make a noise, calm down - well, a couple of bureaucrats will be fired for not fulfilling them ... They will fire someone." .. In a word, I am against this Latinization - first let the population become more solid and prosperous. The country must first take place properly, and let the new generation decide for itself.
                        Thus, all this Latinization is associated with integration into Central Asia and Turkic states. And this is not real, so what is she giving up to us now ???
                        And now my reasoning, assumptions ... Uzbeks in the EAEU to drag with this romanization with the Turks ??? Since this integration will lead ... Tashkent and Ankara to the EAEU - in any other way. NAS without Russia anywhere. Is this Latinization pay for it ??? In another way, Nikolai, I don’t see ... Here, in my opinion, there is the whole alignment, all the clues with this Latinization ... Next time I’ll try to explain why there is no way without the RF. hi
                  2. Lelek
                    Lelek April 30 2018 00: 17
                    0
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    Oh, if the people ruled, I have no doubt that they would only rejoice ..

                    hi

                    Unfortunately this is the case. And the higher the ruler is, the larger the toad.
            2. gespenst45
              gespenst45 April 29 2018 14: 24
              +2
              Yes, you understand dull, if the Americans just cling to the Caspian with their teeth, they don’t leave voluntarily - the bases will be delivered right away, and all your agreements will be tantamount to a cookie in your pocket !!! They won’t even notice them, just trample them. in no case let anyone in there. No transit !!!! Otherwise, the Kazakhs, with their cunning, will go to Russia and betray and sell Russia - they will put it under the hammers !!! And then they will weep with bitter tears - let it be too late !!!! Don't repeat pre-war mistakes of the last war !!! BECAUSE THERE IS VICTIMS IF THERE WILL BE SIMPLY IMMEDIATE !!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LAUNCH AMERICA IN CASPIAN !!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!!
              1. odometer
                odometer April 29 2018 14: 56
                0
                Let's not let it go !!!!! Well then you too do not let !!!!! Sit back on the couch and don't let it go.
              2. sa-ag
                sa-ag 2 May 2018 19: 17
                0
                Quote: gespenst45
                if the Americans only cling to the Caspian with their teeth, they will not leave voluntarily

                Americans in the Caspian since the 90s, they extract oil and gas there, they will leave in the 70th year
        2. midivan
          midivan April 28 2018 16: 05
          +2
          Quote: raw174
          Once upon a time they also spoke about Ukraine, even the Baltic states were under supervision ...

          Once we paid tribute and the Poles sat in Moscow, everything is changing and at the moment we are not for the worse.
          Quote: raw174
          This is a long game, Nazarbayev will be gone, and the US infrastructure will only grow ...

          But are we all doing badly or will ours sit idly by and watch the US grow?
          Quote: raw174
          Although you can not think about it, if anything, there will be enough hats for everyone!

          You can say the same thing about handkerchiefs you can not spare, China will still send.
      2. SETTGF
        SETTGF 2 May 2018 11: 34
        0
        midivan! No need to write nonsense! If you place Tomahawk missiles in containers or MK41 missiles, as well as missile defense missiles, then it is EASY TO KILL Russia BALLISTIC ROCKETS at the start and not only ... And so the purposeful activity of the United States and its allies is carried out - to place the first strike as close to the territory of Russia as possible beyond the Urals and there is a great opportunity to intercept our missiles! The author of the article, like you, is supported only by the “five-column” traitors or completely illiterate people!
        1. shirkoled
          shirkoled 2 May 2018 20: 39
          0
          Yes, this buy bypass !!! And the northern territories must be separated !!! This is a native Russian land!
    2. dSK
      dSK April 28 2018 06: 15
      +16
      Quote: cedar
      they won’t miss their thing, so the author is minus ...

      "System nipple - input ruble, output ten." NATO "voluntarily" never left nowhere. “Throw in hats,” in a foreign territory “little blood,” it already was.
      Azerbaijan will gladly sell combat and transport boats to them.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 April 28 2018 07: 34
        +9
        Quote: dsk
        NATO “voluntarily” never left anywhere.

        what They themselves left Kyrgyzstan without fighting!
        1. dSK
          dSK April 28 2018 08: 00
          +3
          We moved to Uzbekistan and further north to Kazakhstan.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 April 28 2018 08: 21
            +6
            Quote: dsk
            We moved to Uzbekistan and further north to Kazakhstan.

            Where exactly are the US bases in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan now?
            1. novel66
              novel66 April 28 2018 09: 07
              +3
              they are secret. who will show them? and from Kyrgyzstan they rushed. Are you a dopeck? so would not leave. hello seaman hi with the coming drinks
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 April 28 2018 09: 41
                +3
                hi Hello Roma! drinks
                Quote: novel xnumx
                Are you a dopeck?

                Yes, even I didn’t like them, some sugary ones! wassat
            2. dSK
              dSK April 28 2018 09: 15
              +3

              According to the US military, they have 735 bases. According to conservative estimates, it turns out that this is about 75 percent of foreign bases worldwide, peculiar form colonization of the world, by introducing power and military power into enemy territory. The US has an empire of military bases, and it continues to grow. (Wikipedia)
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 April 28 2018 09: 52
                +4
                Quote: dsk
                According to the American military

                what Namesake, why are you slipping this ancient card to me? The US base in Khanabad (Uzbekistan) was closed at 2005, the US base Gansi (Kyrgyzstan) was closed at 2014, and in 2014, 160 Frenchmen got out of Dushamba!
                Sergey, so where exactly in the Central Asia are the US bases ????
                1. dSK
                  dSK April 29 2018 02: 48
                  +5
                  В Kazakhstan There is a training ground for NATO standards. (in detail - you need to dig the archive) US Department of Defense-funded bio lab: "In 2010, on the basis of the former Soviet Anti-Plague Research Institute, the construction of the Central Reference Laboratory began with the financial support of the US defense department. The commissioning of the laboratory is expected in 2015. The cost of the complex in Almaty will be 108 million dollars. Officially, the Central Reference Laboratory in Almaty is being created to ensure the safety of especially dangerous pathogens remaining in Kazakhstan from the Soviet military-biological program, and to study methods of protection against them, and also employing former military biologists." (Wikipedia)
                  Russia destroyed all the "biological weapons" of the USSR on its territory. The states “picked up” it in the former union republics (Kazakhstan, Georgia, Ukraine) and develop it further without risking the health of its population and bypassing the ban on its production on its territory.
              2. Grandfather Eugene
                Grandfather Eugene 6 May 2018 12: 10
                0
                Quote: dsk
                75 percent of foreign bases around the world, a peculiar form of colonization of the world, by introducing power and military power into enemy territory


                Give democracy to every home. Drang noch remains part of the second reboot of the American version.
        2. dSK
          dSK April 28 2018 09: 19
          +4
          Quote: Serg65
          They themselves left Kyrgyzstan

          Last year, Russia "wrote off" Kyrgyzstan’s debt of $ 700 million and issued a new loan of $ 300 million.
          Undoubtedly there will be “countermeasures” Russian, a matter of time and means.
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      3. gespenst45
        gespenst45 April 29 2018 14: 29
        +2
        I completely agree, and against any presence of America under any pretext !!!! But let them not dream of the Caspian !!! They should not be allowed in there !!! There is nothing for them to do there !!!
    3. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 28 2018 06: 21
      +3
      Neither ships nor base will appear. Teleportation has not yet been invented in the United States or Russia, especially items such as warships. You can get to the Caspian either through the inland waterways of Russia (that is, this option is closed to the Americans), or somehow through Iran, ships can no longer get there. Is it possible, in theory, to take apart a boat or several and send them in parts, escorting by airplanes? Can. But it will be all kinds of motor rubber and rubber-metal boats there, which you can not carry, you can buy on the spot.

      Especially about the waterways through Iran. lol German catamaran heavy ferries somehow ended up on Ladoga. LCS Independence is generally a trimaran.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N April 28 2018 12: 30
      +3
      The importance of the issue is not in the physical presence of the United States.
      The important thing is that Kazakhstan is completely unreliable. And inadequate - does not understand the threats to himself. Moreover, this is a very weak formation - like a fortress from a tumbleweed.
      Nomads, as a society, are weakly interconnected, possess only the rudiments of culture - all this takes place in modern Kazakhstan. Where the culture is degrading. Latin will finally ditch them.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym April 28 2018 18: 12
        +6
        Victor, without facts and arguments. Your comment, sorry, stupid. Why write about something you don’t know at all?
        How many I ask such commentators to name specific facts of non-friendly actions - 0 answers.
        Archaeological excavations, cave paintings and much more talk about the hectic life in our area. “Scythian gold” was found in your Crimea - by analogy with the “Golden Man of Kazakhstan” (one of the symbols of KZ), where letters were also found. (5-4 centuries .. BC). Otrar, Turkestan, valleys with barrows are scattered throughout the territory and many other artifacts. hi
        The Embassy of the KZ in the Russian Federation denied this stuffing at the bases in the Caspian. "The last of the Mohicans" of the USSR will not do this, definitely - you need to know it.
        1. Victor N
          Victor N April 28 2018 18: 31
          +1
          I did not fly to the moon, I track information. And artifacts need to be able to interpret. The question is not in the Caspian. There are many facts, the first is a sharp reduction in the number of Russians. Which country is seen from the outside - blame the mirror: do not make an impression pleasing to you.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym April 28 2018 19: 12
            +6
            In fact, 25-30% of the Slavs in the KZ. The economic situation with devaluation sagged strongly. The GDP was 220 billion, about 120 billion remained. We launched new industrialization capacities (program from 11., Built more than 1000 enterprises), but so far with a creak ... People are striving for where there is a prospect. According to stat. up to 30 people. left last year - this is in the area of ​​stat. errors (less than 000%). There are refugees from Ukraine and Donbass.
            By artifacts - the Internet to help. Kazakhs are a union of nomadic tribes with different roots (China, Arabs, Mongols, Altai, Slavs and Finno-Ugric peoples, Iran, local and Central Asian). And there are over 40 large tribes that were spoiled by the war with the Dzungars 3 centuries ago. It was a hundred-year war for us. The battle of Anrakai became a turning point, special thanks to the Turkmen for their help. Then the Chinese came - they were kicked out in 2 years, Bogenbai-Batyr was appointed commander-in-chief. Weakened by this long war, the Kazakhs began to join the Republic of Ingushetia. At the end of the 19th century. the whole KZ joined the Republic of Ingushetia - the road opened for the conquest of Central Asia (read the road to cotton powder at that time).
            Why "do not make an impression pleasing to you" is our story.
            The West is interested in such information attacks - to create impressions like yours.
            May you be right. Then the question is for you. If we are in the “counter”, the two main diasporas in the KZ, then why do not “dump” the rest over 120 diasporas? Among us there are Jews, Germans, Koreans, Greeks, Poles - well-being is better in historical homelands. You would have an analogue of our ANC (Assembly of the People of Kazakhstan) and there would be no conflict. Go to the organization’s website. Soon ANC Congress, MAY 1 - Day of Unity of the People of Kazakhstan. By the way, the Russian Community of KZ has one lifelong seat in parliament. ANC has a VETO right to laws and 9 seats in parliament. She is responsible for the international. consent in the country. So not everything is as intended as you write. Of course, in 30 years a monolithic society cannot be created, but the authorities at least strive for this. 4 years ago, the NAS asked the ANC (i.e., all diasporas) to delegate to the state. service of their representatives, you need to know 2 languages ​​(the only condition.). To do this, they introduced in all schools compulsory full study of two languages ​​and their liters, regardless of the language of instruction. But we still have 100 students who study in Ukrainian, Uyghur, Uzbek and Tajik languages ​​(about a hundred schools).
            Of course, there are “schools”, but we are a young state and are learning fast. hi
            Good luck in the Donbass!
            1. isergil
              isergil 2 May 2018 09: 38
              +2
              After Nazarbayev’s death, you will begin a very tough struggle for power. It may be that for some time the heirs of the Elbasy will remain in power, but then the real felling will begin. The British and Americans have already been launched into the country, and they, if they go anywhere, begin to prepare their pocket opposition. However, they have already passed this stage. Why do you think the assets of the Republic of Kazakhstan were arrested only now, and not 2-3 years ago? - And now the time has come, Nazarbayev is old. Influence agents on a low start. The time of the struggle for power.
              And that the worst thing, neither Russia, nor the CSTO, nor "Shanghai" will come to your aid, otherwise it will be perceived as direct "aggression" both in Kazakhstan and in the world. - The “fifth column” prepared by England and the USA is sort of like “internal affairs”. I think that everything will go according to the Ukrainian scenario:
              1. "Down with criminal power and corruption."
              2. The opposition uses the national map, Russophobia and the long-standing contradictions between the northern and southern jus.
              3. The country is filled with intelligence personnel from NATO countries (in Ukraine, this is the United States, Poland, Israel, you may have Turkey and England).
              4. The seizure of power by pro-Western politicians.
              And here, the American transport base for the illegal delivery of money and weapons, subversive campaign literature will come in handy - after all, the goods are not checked.
              You are not the first and not the last country where the Americans carry out a creeping seizure of power, including using military structures.
              1. Alecsandr
                Alecsandr 2 May 2018 09: 44
                +2
                The technology of subordinating the local national elite to the West has been honed for a long time and is applied around the world.
                1. Alecsandr
                  Alecsandr 2 May 2018 09: 48
                  +1
                  Americans don’t feel sorry for their candy wrappers. Always a donkey loaded with gold is always ahead. Does not help, threats and sometimes the use of force
                  1. Alecsandr
                    Alecsandr 2 May 2018 09: 49
                    0
                    They wanted to go to the Caspian Sea because Iran is nearby
                    1. isergil
                      isergil 2 May 2018 10: 09
                      +2
                      Not only Iran. More is Russia. They need Iran for this. Many believe that the "Anaconda belt" is a conspiracy thesis. Let them look at the map.
                      In Iran, they fulfill the order of the Saudis and, at the same time, Israel, as they say, extra money.
                2. isergil
                  isergil 2 May 2018 10: 04
                  +2
                  In fact of the matter. Moreover, they (national elites) do not understand this point blank. They firmly believe that all the buns will go to them, as promised.
                  Look at Ukraine, the local big bourgeoisie is actively liquidating in favor of Western capital, and local politicians are generally reduced to the position of puppets. A colony is a colony. The "partnership" that they were promised was no longer even a question - only complete submission. Correctly here in the comments it says: the entrance is corpus, the exit is not provided.
                  My friends are getting ready to move from Kazakhstan to Russia. Of course, not from a good life. All of these Kasima praises of interethnic relations in Kazakhstan is a good mine with a bad game. I won’t even say what chances Russians have for a career, let him say how many Russians (25% of the population, according to my information, no more than 10%) are in the ruling elites of Kazakhstan. I think 0, 0%. Here is the answer.
                  This is a question of how national elites will develop after Nazarbayev’s death. But I have had this forecast for a long time. None of the former republics in the zone of Russian influence will ultimately hold on. They have complexes of the "national liberation struggle" when the national elites are more afraid of their neighbor than their uncle, much more greedy and cruel.
  2. BZTM
    BZTM April 28 2018 05: 31
    +2
    Or Norfolk, if the toilet is being built in the port.
    laughing It is unlikely that there will be something more serious than the closet, although .... request
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 28 2018 05: 37
    +7
    To consider yourself very cunning and to love money is a sin,
    So close to betrayal!
  4. Horseman without a head
    Horseman without a head April 28 2018 05: 39
    +21
    are selected from all sides
  5. cedar
    cedar April 28 2018 06: 33
    +1
    Quote: midivan
    Quote: cedar
    In heavy containers, you can now place a lot of different and most importantly dangerous things. From reconnaissance equipment and electronic warfare stations to missile launchers and UAVs, there would be a desire and an opportunity.

    Well, what are they scouting there and who will be REB, our two "Buyans" or the sturgeon will be nightmare? We don’t need a visa there, so many “spies” from S. Naryshkin and S. Shoigu will catch up with us so that Americans don’t go to the toilet without our knowledge laughing And rocket launchers are generally cool, well, they’ll deliver and why they smell for us, and then why should Nazarbayev hang himself on his own tie? Yes, the author is right.


    Call the Pentagon, ask. They will tell you everything, and only you ...
    Waiting for ...
  6. Alex66
    Alex66 April 28 2018 07: 03
    +8
    In Ukraine, the Americans are bossing, in Armenia they will soon be bossing, in fact we are still losing step by step, because we defend ourselves, attacked once (Crimea was returned) and our elite in panties imposed did not recognize the referendums of Lugansk and Donetsk (see Russian spring for them), and after them they could return all of New Russia to Russia. But it is possible to build a fleet in Kazakhstan, it is not necessary to teleport, and the fact that we destroy it, only after it shoots, we will not attack first.
  7. gorenina91
    gorenina91 April 28 2018 07: 18
    +7
    -It would be realistic to place the S-400 in Omsk (near Omsk) ... -this long border with Kazakhstan ... Yes, there are many more Kazakhs in Omsk and the Omsk region than anywhere else in Russia ... and their numbers are increasing literally exponentially ... -In general, in the Omsk region, it is necessary to deploy entire "fortified areas" with serious aviation, missile structures, motorized infantry and tank units (the Omsk tank school is clearly not enough) ...
    -In general ...- it’s somehow strange ... -in Kazakhstan, ethnic Russians in the power structures of Kazakhstan ...- are literally units ... and in Omsk and Omsk region ethnic Kazakhs are in the power structures ... - Literally almost half of the entire personnel ... -It immediately catches the eye ... -Maybe Omsk is already part of Kazakhstan and is under its jurisdiction ..? - What can happen when the "Latin-speaking" Kazakhstan legally places NATO bases on its territory, or even ... ... becomes a member of NATO ..? - Today it has become quite real ...
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 April 28 2018 07: 39
      +6
      Quote: gorenina91
      Today it has become quite real ...

      laughing Collect signatures to pass a law declaring war on Kazakhstan! Or organize an Omsk Cossack partisan detachment and Alga in Petropavlovsk !!! bully Why wait then? wink
      1. dSK
        dSK April 28 2018 08: 06
        0
        Quote: Serg65
        organize Omsk Cossack

        There are already “Cossacks” in Omsk.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 28 2018 08: 25
          +3
          Quote: dsk
          There are already “Cossacks” in Omsk.

          Well then, head a special squad to clean up the Omsk region!
        2. Bridge 55
          Bridge 55 April 28 2018 11: 37
          +1
          So here we have a lot of Germans.
      2. gorenina91
        gorenina91 April 28 2018 08: 19
        +1
        -For Serg65 (Sergey) Today, 07:39
        -------------------------------------------------
        -



        - Why are you giving such "advice" ... - then you "identify" yourself with the name Sergey ... - then it would be more real ...- with the name Serik ...
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 28 2018 08: 27
          +3
          Quote: gorenina91
          then it would be more real ...- with the name Serik ...

          belay You want to say that your real name is Irene?
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 28 2018 09: 10
            +4
            I would suggest another variation of your name related to the sea: sea tongue laughing
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 April 28 2018 09: 54
              +2
              Quote: novel xnumx
              I would suggest

              laughing Roma, sea erysipelas I definitely like, cool! lol
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 28 2018 10: 04
                +1
                I have a partner Sergey. we’ve been working together for twenty years, here I’m working on it
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 April 28 2018 10: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  I’m working on it

                  laughing Well, you’re just like academician Pavlov!
        2. Bridge 55
          Bridge 55 April 28 2018 11: 38
          +1
          Do not touch the series, it has nothing to do with it)))
      3. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 April 28 2018 08: 20
        +3
        A little boy (Kazakh) comes from the kindergarten in tears. Grandmother asks him.
        -What happened to the bike?
        - We were told in the kindergarten to come tomorrow in national clothes !!!!
        - Well, it doesn’t matter, we’ll come up with something.
        -Aaaa ... Where do we find the little police uniform?
        An anecdote of Soviet times
    2. starochkin77
      starochkin77 April 28 2018 09: 13
      0
      Under the Novosibirsk and Novosibirsk regions, the S-400 has already been deployed, and it borders on the Omsk Region and Omsk. hi
    3. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 20: 07
      +5
      Irina, hello! Smiled about Omsk. Recently there was a message that a resident of the village "Duvanovka" in the Omsk region. That in 1km. from the border, asks to join the village to ... Kazakhstan. Neither roads, nor shops ... they don’t do anything like power - and so they have to wander around in the KZ for groceries and all. I do not cheat.
      Nomads - people strive more for service. Even the notorious “institute of thieves in law” has not really taken root. There were few Kazakhs among them - one or two miscalculated, but now in general ... We have more police here. state, if I may say so. They quickly sorted out all sorts of gangs of the 90s - only they gave the team and in 1,5-2 years all the brigades rolled up. Only the rumor about which brigade appeared among the people - they instantly rolled up even without any special evidence that they threw up corny. Being in the brigade quickly became not fashionable. laughing Also with bearded men, work still goes on of course. More than 100 returned from Syria - the family members were released, and the rest were shaved on the bunks and forced to eat pork. There are about 200 active ours left - no more. But they were deprived of citizenship ... On the street they can take a bearded, "suspicious" person to clarify without ceremony. Any unauthorized demonstration - of course there is more police there - ends before it starts.
      Irina, it’s better not to use Latin, but ask for Russian amplification. There he wrote to Victor. Even in the most remote kaz. Aul are required to study the Russian language and literature in full. Ege and all that. You need to know two languages, and after some time, representatives of any nationality will begin to appear in the chairs of high bosses. Everything goes to that.
      The embassy of the KZ in the Russian Federation denied this fake news about the bases in the KZ. I assure you that the "last of the Mohicans" of the Union will never do this. We know him better. Yes, and we have a law on this issue (without the approval of the CSTO it is impossible). Soon his meeting with GDP.
  8. andrewkor
    andrewkor April 28 2018 07: 29
    +3
    I want to remind distinguished forum users why Amers had problems with the most convenient transit to Afghanistan through Pakistan. In November 2011, 24 Pakistani soldiers died as a result of a "friendly" bombing on border guards. Obama did not apologize, this was the last straw in the series of bombings of his ally’s territory . A vicious circle has formed: Pakistan itself can’t deal with militants, the US needs to bomb militant bases, a "peacekeeper" gets under the distribution, Pakistan protests and everything is new. .That then the United States and rushed to the North. Uzbekistan took payment for transit used weapons and equipment.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila April 28 2018 07: 41
    +9
    And it all started ... with the arrests of Kazakhstan's accounts in American banks ... here you have democracy.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 20: 12
      +2
      Friend, the news about the NATO base, the embassy of the KZ in the Russian Federation denied. Don’t worry, everything is fine here. hi
      Money has long been unlocked. In court, they appointed whom to answer.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 April 28 2018 07: 46
    +4
    Yes, they can place everything there, bring it bullshit compared to the fact that our former friends are in fact very nominal, and it can become frankly worse!
    To be fenced off from everyone, especially from those where there is still memory and connections for our great past, this is not a fool, this is a crime .... rebirth!
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 28 2018 09: 11
      +2
      oh we will not wait for the new Panfilov division. if anything... hi good morning
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 28 2018 09: 21
        +2
        We are greeted by the morning cool !!! Hi Roman soldier
        For me, for many others, the thought is persistently born, sho we need a very big trouble, Schaub will unite again!
        Perhaps not the best idea, the sales are terrible .... are they there, behind the hillock, they have completely lost their scent ??? They don’t understand, sho they will be demolished at the same time and it will happen necessarily ???
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 28 2018 09: 23
          +1
          to my mind. in government agencies, their brains are turned off forcibly, but they don’t give a pan to the head. after resignations sharply grow wiser
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 April 28 2018 09: 58
        +3
        Quote: novel xnumx
        oh we will not wait for the new Panfilov division

        laughing What is Roma waiting for her? It’s worth the revived 8th Guards Motorized Rifle Order of the Order of Lenin The red banner of the Order of Suvorov, division named after Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General I.V. Panfilov, 10-km from Bishkek, is standing and ready for battle! wink
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 28 2018 10: 05
          +2
          you are responsible for the arrival!
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 April 28 2018 10: 29
            +4
            Quote: novel xnumx
            you are responsible for the arrival!

            what Oh, Roma, if it comes, then there’s nowhere to go, of course it will, otherwise Kyrgyzstan will have a kirdyk!
  11. Altona
    Altona April 28 2018 07: 56
    +5
    I do not believe the cunning Elbasy and never believed. The Kazakh word is like a Kazakh horse.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 20: 33
      +3
      "like a Kazakh horse"
      Thinking think. Yes, he’s only strained with water, therefore he strives to return home.
      Funny case. The Germans arrived in Kaz. aul. Equipment and all that for the farm. A translator is promised a day. They get up in the morning and watch the shepherds (boys at all) being chased out by a collective farm herd. The people from the cowsheds drive their cattle out onto the street, and the shepherds drive the herd. Well gone. They look for dinner ... the boys come back ... And in the evening the cattle go to the aul itself and disperse to their homes. The Germans are discussing something vigorously and it is not clear what they are trying to ask. And on the trail. Day translator arrives. And they ask. Listen, why did the shepherds return to dinner, and the cows themselves came only in the evening, without them they themselves went home? Are they tame or something? ... Ours were lying under the table, but they cannot understand because of what ... The reason is in the water. The cows are driven out to a “fresh place" and the boys come back, but there is no water - the nearest source is only in the aul. And the cattle was already used to being drunk at home in the evening. So they themselves quietly return home, grazing. hi
      But where is the faith of the authorities? They voted for the Union, and what everyone knew. After that, who particularly believes in them, Eugene? There is no alternative to NAS in KZ - let it sit better. The new one, looking at Ukraine, while it is stolen - even if it’s full, it’s sitting. And, Eugene, we then know that he has grandmothers - he is in the top ten richest rulers - he buys Blers in batches.
  12. Altona
    Altona April 28 2018 07: 58
    +4
    Quote: rocket757
    and all this is in the treasury, why our upper power is not the ones that our COUNTRY needs for rebirth!

    ----------------------------
    Well, who participated in the division of the USSR and in the forefront ran sovereignty to celebrate. Here the collective fault of the entire top of the CPSU, the KGB and the army, who agreed with the fact of the dismemberment of the USSR. Putin alone will not be able to turn back the mince.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 28 2018 08: 56
      +5
      To look for one, the guilty one, to cast a shadow over the wattle fence and most importantly, not really fight the phenomenon / misfortune!
      The most “coolest” leader, some sales team of like-minded people will not be able to stop the process of disintegration / destruction of the country! Well if slow down.
      Only the whole world! And only when we believe that these leaders are leading us in the right direction!
      There is essentially no society, there are separate citizens, separate groups of people lost on the way!
      To unite, we need either a great goal or an immense misfortune ... in short, everything is not very fun.
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  13. raw174
    raw174 April 28 2018 08: 10
    +8
    The day is clear, no one will drive the AUG and any ship in general! The problem is the trend ... Kazakhstan is moving west! That’s the trouble ... Let there even be a platoon of mattresses there, but they will settle there and carry the rational, good, eternal! Then they put a missile defense system there, purely to protect the flagpole from Iranians and aliens ....
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 21: 32
      +4
      Ravil, what a panic! NAS - "the last of the Mohicans" from the USSR. Do not worry - no one will stab you in the back. In addition to the Russian Federation, the PRC and Iran are close by - he did not go crazy to let the NATO troops here and arrange the battlefield of the "titans" from the KZ.
      Everything is calm with us - these bases only walk in foreign media. This is probably an information war. The concrete run has begun. The United States promised the allies of the Russian Federation that little might not seem.
      We will put this missile defense system in one place. Getting to Baikonur to repair two starts. Zenit sites with an investment of 245 million with possible growth (one after the accident from the end of the last century). Roll with 25g. the astronauts will be at Soyuz-5 (an analogue of Zenith, Sunkar in our opinion), the development of which has begun in the Russian Federation. It’s better to fly on it, but not on missile defense. hi
  14. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD April 28 2018 08: 47
    +2
    Practice shows that once having arrived in the region, it is very difficult to squeeze out Americans from there later. And it often starts with
    a toilet toilet
    as the author put it. There is such a saying - there would be bones, but the meat will grow ... And even kids with machine guns can create problems by virtue of their presence and the flag flying above them .. And in the database you can set up a bunch of all-seeing, all-hearing, and how to make amers later to remove - the question ... And saboteurs can do many different things on our coast, given the turbulence of the region - and what are we in return? .. will we organize an action in their database? - there will be a lot of stench, but not much sense - they will restore and continue to “rock” the region .. So, I fundamentally disagree with the author in the very spirit of his article - soothing and “instructive”. Either complacent, or ... refolding facts with the goal of blowing dust into the eyes and misinformation about the true situation and goals ..
  15. BAI
    BAI April 28 2018 08: 59
    +3
    19 April, the Senate of Kazakhstan ratified the Protocol on Amendments to the Intergovernmental Agreement with the United States on the Provision of Commercial Railway Transit Special Cargo through the Republic in connection with the participation of Americans in efforts to stabilize and rebuild Afghanistan.

    So the billions of people arrested have come around.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 28 2018 09: 29
      +7
      I remember how two years ago, I was arguing with the “Kazakh Russians”, who, with foam in my mouth, proved to me that “Russian and Kazakh brothers forever,” the Russian language will continue to be fundamental in Kazakhstan, the Russian will live there freely for many years, and Americans will never be there. I said the exact opposite. Well, and who, in the end, was right?
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 April 28 2018 15: 06
        +4
        Unfortunately, your Fed owners are working on Brzezinski, clearly, consistently, for the future. But the adherents of the KhPP and the slaves of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation have one song: "Everything is fine marquise." I think even when Bashkiria and Tatarstan are on fire, they will not stop this song.
      2. Kasym
        Kasym April 28 2018 21: 42
        +2
        They are of course Monster. There is silence in our media. Only your media has these bases in the Caspian. Everything is fine here.
        Russian made mandatory for all schools. The same number of hours with Kazakh, even in kaz. schools. Examination, exams. Literature. Everything is in full, including the most remote schools in Kazakh villages. With knowledge of two languages, any citizen can take any position, including the presidency. The Congress of the Assembly of Peoples of Kazakhstan with all 130 diasporas will be the other day, incl. President and the entire Cabinet of Ministers with akims of the regions. All questions on int. consent is decided by the ANC, Monster. It’s a pity that you don’t spread such news. hi
        "A resident of the village of Duvanovka, Omsk Oblast, asks to join the village to the KZ." laughing drinks hi
        A refutation on the bases has already been done by our embassy in the Russian Federation
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  17. Yujanin
    Yujanin April 28 2018 09: 20
    +1
    American warships will appear in the Caspian Sea.

    You can ask experts, and in what way will American ships get to the Caspian (read like a lake) basin?
    1. cedar
      cedar April 28 2018 10: 03
      0
      It's not about ships, but about weapons. A ship may carry a weapon, or it may not ...
      For some reason, it can be carried by a plane or a car, or a donkey ...
      The whole question is what kind of weapon, where, with whom, and against whom ...
      1. Yujanin
        Yujanin April 28 2018 14: 03
        +2
        So they (the USA) have been transporting arms back and forth for 10 years already in the transit of Azerbaijan-Turkmenistan-Afghanistan. So far there have been no excesses in this matter. In particular, these weapons did not settle in the Caspian region. And then between the USA and the Russian Federation there was an agreement on the transportation of armaments. For well-known reasons, the White House froze the agreement and decided to carry these goods through Kazakhstan, so that Astana would get a profit. This is a purely commercial matter. No need to create a storm in a glass. If the Kremlin is silent, then there is no problem in this transit.
  18. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 28 2018 09: 29
    +3
    Dear author! Are you trying to convince us now or yourself? The time will come and they will betray everyone as soon as they feel slack! In their case, it will not be betrayal but foresight, as one famous character in one famous film (GARAGE) said. I suggest to rely only on yourself! Neither Ketai, nor Belarus with Armenia and Kazakhstan, only for yourself !!! Something a lot of urapatriots divorced here, arguing that Russia and Ketai would completely beat America!
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 28 2018 09: 42
      0
      Something a lot of urapatriots divorced here, arguing that Russia and Ketai would completely beat America!

      "The drowning man grabs the straw" ...
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        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 28 2018 11: 41
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          Omeriga, heaven on earth ...

          Not .... not so .... "the shining city on the hill" well, and further, in the text ....
          1. already a Muscovite
            already a Muscovite April 28 2018 13: 17
            +3
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            "the shining city on the hill"

            Well, the shine and brilliance are dimmer and dimmer ... For the past 30 years, this city has not been pleased with the size of its hill, and therefore is trying to gouge other hills, and this will end badly. For omega surely ...
  19. mavrus
    mavrus April 28 2018 10: 01
    +6
    Quote: dsk
    We moved to Uzbekistan and further north to Kazakhstan.

    From Kazakhstan to Russia ...
    P.S. So from Kazakhstan, almost 4 million Russians have already fled to Russia, and this is the largest number of Russians, who were forced to leave their native places from all countries of the former USSR, and after the adoption of the language law by the Kazakhs, we can assume that there will be as much more if not more ...
  20. sabakina
    sabakina April 28 2018 10: 32
    +1
    Teleportation has not yet been invented in the United States or Russia, especially items such as warships.

    Nuuuuu, as if on October 28, 1943 the destroyer Eldridge disappeared somewhere. Eyewitnesses claim that he was spotted on the same day in both Norfolk and Philadelphia, the distance between which exceeds 320 kilometers.
    1. NN52
      NN52 April 28 2018 14: 28
      +1
      Vyacheslav

      Hinting what you invented a long time ago? laughing
      And one AUG Americans to the Caspian Sea easily .... lol
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 28 2018 14: 34
        0
        there small submarines pose a great danger
      2. sabakina
        sabakina April 28 2018 18: 44
        +2
        Quote: NN52
        Vyacheslav
        Hinting what you invented a long time ago? laughing
        And one AUG Americans to the Caspian Sea easily .... lol

        Dim, but how to say .... They wanted to use the theories of Tesla and Einstein to create a cool camouflage of the ship from radar, but in the end they moved the ship with big trouble for the crew. How they did it, they themselves still do not understand, because Tesla and Enschein took their secrets with them.
        1. NN52
          NN52 April 28 2018 21: 57
          0
          Glory, but I also read a thin film (science fiction, where two after this experiment were slightly transferred to the future, forgot the name) I watched for a long time ...
          But that a lot died there, a fact ... But the fact of the transfer was not there ... Yes, and all was not classified as secret ...
  21. alekc75
    alekc75 April 28 2018 10: 38
    +3
    Are the author paid for the praise of Nazarbayev ??? or is he blind and does not see how Nazarbayev moves away from Russia?
  22. Playerman
    Playerman April 28 2018 11: 05
    +1
    Finally, an adequate article smile And then many in the attacks of panic attacks and not motivated aggression began. But the comments please: The essence of the comments: We still do not believe, the Kazakhs sold for three bucks. Everything is gone, well, or if it’s not completely gone yet, you need to bristle with missiles. Here even iksperd from america ("fat monster"), joined you, kerosene: - "And I wrote already." Do not confuse something with a finger, mono-ethnic Kazakhstan, Kazakhs always kept in mind. Like the rest of the state in the post-Soviet space. All the other accusations (namely,) the eggs are not worth it (well, if you are not traveling by time machine, or at worst close friends from the elbasy) What? Has gray matter ceased to be gray? Mdaaaaaa! The farther into the forest, the thicker the partisans. In general, you often look in the mirror. This is me about China
  23. Imobile
    Imobile April 28 2018 11: 45
    +1
    Quote: dsk

    Last year, Russia "wrote off" Kyrgyzstan’s debt of $ 700 million and issued a new loan of $ 300 million.
    Undoubtedly there will be “countermeasures” Russian, a matter of time and means.

    As a "countermeasure" they will write off 300 million dollars and give 700 million dollars
  24. sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 28 2018 12: 15
    +2
    The important thing is not the presence or absence of battleships in the Caspian. The position of Kazakhstan on this issue is important. Kazakhs, well, what about kua? (sorry my french)
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 20: 37
      +4
      Sergey, our embassy in the Russian Federation has already denied this news. Everything will be fine, do not expect any blows from our side. soldier Happy New Year! True, MAY 1 is the Day of Unity of the People of KZ. hi
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 2 May 2018 19: 31
        0
        Quote: Kasym
        our embassy in the Russian Federation has already denied this news.

        This is their work, as Elbasy himself said that there will be no tenge devaluation, the result was exactly the opposite
  25. The poor man
    The poor man April 28 2018 12: 34
    +4
    Maybe enough to justify these traitors from the former Soviet republics? What is their help from Russia in international affairs? Not what. Neither support, nor approval, nor moral and, especially, material assistance. They sit, their ears are pressed and shut. And as Americans beckoned for money, they are right there, ready for any services to Uncle Sam.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 April 28 2018 15: 12
      +3
      In international relations, as in any collective (military, prison, worker, etc.), the majority will support the most powerful and successful. The oligarchy of the Russian Federation has stained itself with numerous plums and bleating on obvious insults and even humiliations. It's not just about money. Who will be the ally of the one who repeatedly merged and threw his allies? There are no fools.
    2. Tomato
      Tomato April 28 2018 16: 29
      +2
      There is a good Jewish proverb:
      You need to be friends with someone who is even a little richer than you. If he does not give anything, then at least he won’t ask for anything.
      One of the reasons why we are stupidly losing influence is because we do not want to understand in any way - they are not traitors simply because they do not owe us anything. They did not take the oath of allegiance to Russia. And they have their own interests.
      I sometimes type in "Kazakh media in Russian" on Yandex. Recommend. Allows you to see the view from the other side. It is impossible to build relationships without understanding your partner at all.
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  27. Brigadier
    Brigadier April 28 2018 13: 42
    +4
    But Putin still believes that Kazakhstan is our ally, and Nazarbayev is his best friend, and writes off huge debts to “his friends”, receiving in return only assurances of friendship, Latin letters, the gradual squeezing of Russians from Kazakhstan and future Amer’s bases at his " ally "...
    But as before, Putin’s favorites are those who pull the country down, and he doesn’t give a damn. This is HIS friends!
    Ugh! It's disgusting!
    In the election, I voted for Grudinin! And every day I am convinced that I did the right thing!
    And those who voted for Putin will soon see what stupidity and stupidity they did!
    But it will be too late ... the train has already left ... request
  28. wachmann
    wachmann April 28 2018 14: 10
    0
    he needs grandmothers who don’t smell. What is needed in Afghanistan am besides the opium crop, the fight against the Taliban? this is infa for the townsfolk who have not been caught up there, from Canadians to Estonians, and for so many years, things are still there. Well, gaining a foothold in the underbelly of Russia didn’t hurt b, and there, you look: some kind of besh-barmachny revolution of frigidity will strike and ...;)
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 28 2018 21: 48
      +1
      Andrey, here is his money without it ...
  29. peace
    peace April 28 2018 15: 12
    +3
    Neither the author of the article, nor the Russian authorities - like the Soviet ones at the time - have great foresight. Kazakhstan will certainly become both an ally of the United States and an enemy of Russia. Maybe not in such an odious form as Ukraine, but like Poland and the Baltic states - for sure. The process of Russophobia, chauvinism and revanchism has been going on there for many years - although without hysteria, but steadily, systematically and inevitably. And he is encouraged by the authorities, although, again, for tactical reasons - he does not stick out for the time being ...
    1. odometer
      odometer April 28 2018 15: 42
      +1
      laughing Where do you live? I am in Kazakhstan. Phobias and isms have always been and the degree of tension is not greater than during the USSR. And revenge for what? In general, it’s cool to read comments - once again you are convinced of how many wretched people are. Well, it’s not for you personally, but in general ...
  30. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov April 28 2018 15: 26
    +2
    There is an agreement on the inadmissibility of a military presence in the Caspian Sea of ​​Iran, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Russia. What is it already destroyed? Where is the EAEU, CSTO they are no longer interested in this trifle? Americans in all post-Soviet republics work, train personnel, and promote their people in high posts. Russia is already left alone. The fact that Eurasian integration is not in the sphere of interests and concepts of the existing liberal government.
  31. Dormidontych
    Dormidontych April 28 2018 15: 59
    0
    ... containers dragged by a forklift (pictured)
    And where are these photos?
  32. Tomato
    Tomato April 28 2018 16: 21
    +3
    Quote: Still running
    Why was the Russian city of Guryev called Atyrau ??? Etc.

    He served in Kazakhstan and I know Kazakhs: a good Kazakh is a dead Kazakh !!! )))

    It’s just stubborn nothing and the nationalists .... do not understand anything but power and tryndule .... it’s necessary to clean the former Russian territories from this badness ....

    Nice post! Bravo. Now we just need to sincerely exclaim - and why do they not love us? Why are they running away from us ?? Russophobes damned !!!
  33. Wolka
    Wolka April 28 2018 16: 44
    +2
    wait and see, but the Kazakhs showed themselves not in the best way ...
  34. Arthur Pirozhkov
    Arthur Pirozhkov April 28 2018 17: 44
    +5
    I read komenty and РЖУ pancake !!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are something so belligerent allowed the collapse of the country !!!! ?????? you that the merchants merged everything in the past ... everything that was possible before Putin merged with a bang !!!!!! where you were !!! ! billions are stolen from us and they don’t even sit !!! they kill and don’t sit !!! they poison people ... they press violence they corrupt and they don’t even sit !!! you’re the keyboard one, don’t go outside for the truth !!!!! country sheep !!! tomorrow you will pass the law on the wedding night ... and officials will fuck all !!! they are now fucking all the people as they want !!!!!!! sheep ... sheep !!!!!
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          2. NF68
            NF68 April 29 2018 15: 08
            +1
            You see something you misunderstand. Kazakhstan looks at Ukraine, and asks a logical question - if Russia did this to them, why not do the same to us?


            Clear-minded pan. What has Russia done to poor Ukraine?

            And the United States in the post-Soviet space is not afraid of anyone; they have not squeezed someone else's territory from anyone. So, do not instill your phobias into others.


            The US territory is not squeezed. But they turned Iraq, Libya, Syria into ruins, tried to do the same with Egypt. Nobody also forgot about what happened with Yugoslavia.
            It would go, you are far away. To the same horses. Judging by your remarks, you are also pretty sick on the head.
            1. Tomato
              Tomato April 29 2018 15: 19
              +1
              "- We were ready to do it [use nuclear weapons - approx. Ed.]. I talked about this with my colleagues and told them directly that this is our historical territory, ..."
              V. Putin.
              This, pan, is called armed aggression. This is what Kazakhstan fears.
              1. V. Salama
                V. Salama April 29 2018 20: 29
                0
                Quote: Tomatoes
                "- We were ready to do it [use nuclear weapons - approx. Ed.]. I talked about this with my colleagues and told them directly that this is our historical territory, ..."
                V. Putin.
                This, pan, is called armed aggression. This is what Kazakhstan fears.

                Probably he was afraid ... Now what is there to be afraid of? Mayhem seems to be over already? Russia is not the United States, and not Israel. The former would have worked right away; the latter have no statute of limitations on this issue. So your argument is unclear why? Then you asked about Russophobes, such as why "they such Russophobes do not like us, they flee from us"? You are here, it seems, a troll, because you yourself have answered your own question now. Hatred is formed, evil is created, and then scary, from this new hatred.
                Speaking of friendship, where under capitalism have you “seen the friendship of peoples”? In the socialist doctrine of morality with typologization according to functional features, three main channels of friendship are distinguished: working friendship, fighting friendship, and spiritual friendship. So what, do we have a basis for friendship? Under a lying stone, water does not flow, and time will show the result. Time has changed, we now live in different states, each has its own national interests, but people are thought of according to the residual principle. To say that we are ideologically different is to say nothing, but to exploit Soviet friendship for a long time will not work - too much effort is being made in opposite directions. Well, there is another basis for the "friendship" of peoples - this is the instinct of self-preservation. But, taking into account the transience of processes in modern conditions, according to experience, it works a little late, so friendship is not in the near future ... Then what is it all about?
                1. Tomato
                  Tomato April 29 2018 20: 46
                  +1
                  1. Boring. When there is nothing to argue, it remains to stick a label - the troll. Primitive polemic technique. Usually this is where I end the discussion.
                  2. Regarding hatred. Estonians do not like Russians. With everyone else, the relationship is excellent. Azerbaijanis are Armenians. Relations with the rest are excellent. Ukraine has bad (suddenly) relations with Russia. But there are no problems with the rest. And only Russia today has problems with everyone. See the UN vote. Who is for Russia? 6-8 countries, of which half are losers, like Venezuela .. There is no such concentration of hatred anywhere else.
                  3. I never spoke of any friendship. I am always only for a pragmatic relationship. But generating enemies around the perimeter has never been to the advantage of state interests.
                  On this I return to paragraph 1.
                  1. V. Salama
                    V. Salama April 30 2018 14: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    1. Boring. When there is nothing to argue, it remains to stick a label - the troll. Primitive polemic technique ...

                    If you are not a troll, then you have problems with the logic or you just don’t understand what you want to prove:
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    This, pan, is called armed aggression. This is what Kazakhstan fears.
                    Where did you see aggression here? This is a substitution of the concepts that there is a manipulator, and manipulation is the main purpose of the troll. It would be understandable if you took this statement as a threat, but then why didn’t you explain why this threat was expressed? To start with “B” without saying “A” is a perversion of the situation, and this is -
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    Primitive polemic technique
                    manipulator, i.e. troll.
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    I never spoke of any friendship.
                    What are you talking about -
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    Now we just need to sincerely exclaim - and why do they not love us? Why are they running away from us ?? Russophobes damned !!!
                    - about love, about sex?
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    But generating enemies around the perimeter has never been to the advantage of state interests.
                    How Russia generates ... rebuffs the aggressors and at the same time raking those who cling to it. then go very upset. This you about your beloved claim:
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    As for hate. Estonians do not like Russians.
                    It looks like you yourself generate here per gingerbread from one side or the other.
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    With everyone else, the relationship is excellent ..... I am always only for a pragmatic relationship.
                    "Great relationship" is it about love or the economy? Rather, about the "friendship" against Russia. Who is stopping you from establishing pragmatic relations with Russia? - You yourself and your overseas curators.
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    And only Russia today has problems with everyone. See the UN vote. Who is for Russia? 6-8 countries, of which half are losers, like Venezuela .. There is no such concentration of hatred anywhere else.

                    Do not be fooled by yourself and others, “problems” have not arisen today with us and not with everyone, but with the USA and Great Britain, the rest are either fed-up mongrel, or they are afraid of sanctions from this gangster kodla led by the USA. And we have known the essence of this “problem” for a long time and many countries have understood this:
                    What kind of world justice can we talk about when such a resource-rich territory as Siberia belongs to one country?
                    Remind who said? In the words of Krylov’s fable: “... you are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat ...” and the mongrel lips also rolled out onto the pie ... So, do not fill in here without proof of hypothetical hatred, it’s historically clear where the legs grow from, you just don't learn anything.
                    Quote: Tomatoes
                    On this I return to paragraph 1

                    Here, in the mirror, imagine this point and read for comprehension.
              2. NF68
                NF68 April 30 2018 15: 06
                +1
                Quote: Tomatoes
                This, pan, is called armed aggression. This is what Kazakhstan fears.


                Fools, as you know, get richer in thought. So you are not far from such fools gone. Clear-minded pan. Tell me, is the organization of coups d'etat a violation of international laws? How did the USA do it in Ukraine? What has the United States done in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya? You, by no means other than in innate modesty, somehow circumvented these issues. Russia to hell does not need to seize the territory of Kazakhstan and no one is going to do it. The only thing Russia is afraid of in this case is the emergence of US and NATO bases near at hand. Note that this is not Russia that is going to get closer to the territory of the United States, but to turn around. It is enough to look at the map on which the US military bases are marked.

                https://pikabu.ru/story/karta_voennyikh_baz_ssha_
                1832534

                If you see poorly, then put on your glasses and try to understand what these bases mean. And also try to understand who, after the collapse of the USSR, most of all around the world crap as best he could in order to gain absolute dominance.
                1. Tomato
                  Tomato April 30 2018 17: 06
                  0
                  Alas, you are pathologically ignorant. Internal strife is not a reason for aggression and the seizure of foreign territory. Like in 1993, when the Parliament shot the tanks, NATO did not fit into Russia.
                  "
                  "We never said that there are no people there who are engaged (in Ukraine) in certain ... resolving certain issues, including in the military sphere," the Russian leader said, answering a question from a Ukrainian journalist. "
                  2. Not until 2014 of the year did the Rada of Ukraine raise the issue of joining NATO, or deploying bases.
                  3. Sovereign business of Ukraine, with whom to be friends, where to join. And now, the deployment of NATO along the entire perimeter of Russian borders has begun. Cool mnogohodovochka.
                  As for "guessing", then you should wear glasses and pay attention to a strange detail. Even Vietnam is actively cooperating with the United States in the military sphere.
                  Serbia has a major trading partner - the EU.
                  And with Russia, several world losers remained - Venezuela, Syria, Sudan.
                  How, from successes in foreign policy, does your head spin?
                  1. NF68
                    NF68 April 30 2018 20: 11
                    +1
                    Alas, you are pathologically ignorant.


                    Yeah. Where am I going to argue with you, dear sir.

                    Internal strife is not a reason for aggression and the seizure of foreign territory. It seems that in 1993, when the Parliament shot the tanks, NATO did not enter Russia.


                    However, NATO has still climbed into Yugoslavia, Libya and Syria.

                    2. Not until 2014 of the year did the Rada of Ukraine raise the issue of joining NATO, or deploying bases.


                    Are you sure you know all about this? You do not admit that “outside the brackets” may be something else, which we can only speculate or guess about?

                    And with Russia, several world losers remained - Venezuela, Syria, Sudan.


                    Interesting movie. All leading EU countries are interested in delivering cheaper than American, Russian energy carriers. Here the leading American concerns are connected. And also China. And Turkey is somehow not in the rapture of the United States and its NATO partners. Many more countries because of US pressure are still afraid to openly show interest in working with Russia. Approximately 6400 joint Russian-German enterprises operate in Russia:

                    http://tass.ru/info/3193609

                    How, from successes in foreign policy, does your head spin?


                    The success of Russia is already that few people can openly oppose the United States and its immediate environment defending the interests of their own country. They did the best thing, of course, in Ukraine, they pissed off everything that could be panned in terms of the economy, but they did not receive anything else real from the USA and the EU. It is not otherwise that, like theirs, too, violent heads were spinning from the unexpectedly joined happiness of the United States six.

                    3. Sovereign business of Ukraine, with whom to be friends, where to join. And now, the deployment of NATO along the entire perimeter of Russian borders has begun. Cool mnogohodovochka.


                    It’s good to stupid. NATO countries have been doing this for a long time, and not after the 2014 year. Now, NATO has generally lost its brakes. They sensed something not quite good for themselves.

                    Clear-minded pan. I understand that you are a modest person, but still answer the question I have already asked for the 3 time regarding the legality of coups d'etat and their attempt by the United States.
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  37. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 April 28 2018 22: 52
    0
    Purely hypothetically (if they are in Afghanistan for a long time), the Americans could pay Baku the construction of the right amount of this and at the same time take protection of their sea cargo (for a fee, there is no) without the need for teleportation. They build azerba quickly and efficiently, not alone, of course, with the help. It seems that the first one was laid this year for their own and for themselves ...
  38. Edvid
    Edvid April 28 2018 23: 07
    +5
    A calming article for Russian citizens .. Say, nothing special, never mind .. Although it is known where the American boot stood, it is almost impossible to uproot it from there. For them, if only there was a place for landing, and building up the power unit is not difficult ..
    The Kremlin is uncomfortable with recognizing that Kazakhstan is becoming a protectorate of the United States, with all the ensuing consequences. The support of the Russian diasporas only in words led to the current deplorable result. In 1991 Kazakhstan was the only former Soviet republic in which Russians were 60% and Kazakhs 40%. Local political, economic and even physical destruction changed this ratio in their favor ... The nationalists did not finally finish off the Russian part of the population with the residents of the local Cossack villages, who also took up arms ... Nazarbayev had to dodge in every way to stop the "Russian rebellion in Kazakhstan, "and he succeeded, thanks to the silence of the Kremlin ...
    1. Victor N
      Victor N April 29 2018 10: 37
      +1
      The Russian Foreign Ministry is underdeveloped in supporting Russian communities in the Psoviet space, where they were and still are the most powerful. If the “Russian” communities are embarrassed, then we can call them Russian-speaking, and even better - the communities of the Russian world. And you need to more seriously select the ambassadors and strictly control them, pulling to this and public control. It will not be superfluous to supervise the fulfillment of allied obligations with an immediate response to unfriendly acts.
  39. shirkoled
    shirkoled April 29 2018 00: 18
    +1
    Well, believe Y. Vyatkin, the man tried to whitewash Nazarbayev !!! Not for nothing that he is called a journalist, in general, a cat is a bayan !!!
    1. gespenst45
      gespenst45 April 29 2018 13: 50
      +2
      If you trust, then it would not be a sin to check somewhere in the basements of the house on Gorokhovaya Street, or on Lubyanka. Yes, conducting a fifth degree interrogation would not hurt. ALREADY THE SITUATION IS TICKY. I do not believe that something like Nazarbayev.
    2. gespenst45
      gespenst45 April 29 2018 14: 07
      0
      Anyway, there’s a lot of behind-the-scenes play. You can’t trust anyone, and it’s advisable to feel all the neighbors - to tell you more truly, who’s breathing what !!! And the Asians are all the more painful they aren’t reliable. Now the Stalin apparatus of the NKVD should be returned and with it, to enlighten the insides of neighbors. Yes and Königsberg (Kaliningrad) count at your side, and the Americans near Baltiysk (Pillau), which are very sagging, but now they are also tearing into the Caspian Sea - there would be no harm ... Oh, very little ring around Russia bad is created. Isn't it time to poke around so that they don't get too impudent ?!
  40. shirkoled
    shirkoled April 29 2018 00: 25
    +2
    We are waiting for the inauguration !!! A lot of questions have accumulated for Putin and his team!
  41. cbytukfprf48
    cbytukfprf48 April 29 2018 15: 20
    +4
    A very strange argument that does not take into account several things. Namely - the presence in Aktau of a nuclear power plant, uranium mines of 47 km. from the city, heavy oil fields. There is no natural fresh water in Aktau. In Soviet times, its inhabitants received a 45% premium for waterlessness. And in such a beautiful place the Yankees are torn. Why would such a love of the desert?
  42. tractor driver73
    tractor driver73 April 29 2018 18: 27
    0
    It's just that you don’t do anything! And the East is a delicate matter! And the Kazakhs have been attracted by a network of sins lately.
  43. Humpty
    Humpty April 29 2018 18: 34
    +1
    The increase in NATO infrastructure in Wed. Az and in Transcaucasia for Russia, of course, nonsense, no one will notice. Pentagon tank. laboratory in Alma-Ata, why worry, they are multi-vector. The bearded armored vehicles in Syria, originating from Kz. - we will consider a throw-in. The symbolic participation of the military KZ. under the sensitive Ukrainian leadership in the anti-Saddam (or rather anti-Iraqi) opupei, we will forget for the limitation of years.
    The rumor about incomplete mental correspondence of the leader of the nation of Kazakhstan available in the article is exaggerated. He understands everything perfectly and acts meaningfully, only the Orenburg Corridor prevents dancing.
    Do not succumb to provocations, all is well beautiful marquise.
  44. Barmal
    Barmal April 30 2018 01: 13
    +1
    I shield that Nazarbayev is wrong.
  45. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 30 2018 11: 01
    0
    The author beautifully and efficiently outlined the situation, I agree. But Nazarbay most likely needs American money and probably wants to earn money. Or maybe just like we fool Americans?
  46. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 1 May 2018 17: 36
    +2
    Any pontoon can be registered as a ship, and Aegis and missiles can be brought by air. And the INF Treaty does not apply to such a pelvis ..
  47. Nikolay Kuznetsov
    Nikolay Kuznetsov 2 May 2018 08: 37
    0
    Let Kazakhstan earn on amers anytime and as much as we want. We just need to take these ports at gunpoint. I would generally keep somewhere near Astrakhan a base of underwater swimmers for "jokes" with Amer’s cargo .... Let the guys practice. What’s the case !!!
  48. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 2 May 2018 09: 40
    0
    Nobody will open anything there. It will not work
  49. In100gram
    In100gram 3 May 2018 21: 41
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    We can assume another point. As you know, from Kapustin Yar to Sary-Shagan on Balkhash there passes the "southern short test track", on which our Strategic Rocket Forces experience promising military equipment in those modes that our "probable No. 1 partners" do not need to see. Many interesting things are tested there on the subject of missile defense. And precisely because the American technical means do not look at this route in any way. In addition, it is clear that satellites flying by, but the schedule of flights hangs everywhere and everywhere in the respective institutions and units, and no one will experience anything at such moments

    In another thread wrote about the same
    https://topwar.ru/140590-malenkiy-shag-v-bolshoy-
    igre-ssha-nabrasyvayut-na-rf-poslednee-kolco-anak
    ondy.html
    We just closed the transit for them (amers), so they are scurrying around. Although earlier transit also went through Kazakhstan, and not through the North Pole
  50. Lynx33
    Lynx33 4 May 2018 21: 36
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    How did these illiterate magazines get, the American fleet in the Caspian Sea laughing which is essentially a lake. Tomorrow they will start screaming that an American aircraft carrier squadron has entered Baikal laughing