Military Review

Do not missiles single. Putin called for a scientific breakthrough

217
The President of Russia spoke at the XI Congress of Russian Rectors at the Peter the Great Polytechnic Institute in St. Petersburg. According to Vladimir Putin, one of the most important tasks for the country today is the task of raising the level of professional skill of the teaching staff and developing the higher education system itself. From the statement of the head of state:
I would very much ask the Russian Union of Rectors, our leading educational institutions to continue working on effective mechanisms for raising the professional level of the scientific and teaching staff of Russian universities.



The President noted that along with those universities that today are the flagships of science and education in the country, there are also those (both in the capital and in the regions) that are not ready for renovation in accordance with global requirements in the field of science and technology.

Vladimir Putin said that with all the successes demonstrated by the domestic defense industry, military technology alone is certainly not enough for development.

Do not missiles single. Putin called for a scientific breakthrough


We need to rise to a level where the target becomes better visible. I in my message, not to the night it be remembered, spoke about the need for a scientific breakthrough. If we do not do this, we will hopelessly fall behind. Really we will leave, understand ?!


According to the president, the issue with the activities of postgraduate studies is unacceptable when, according to statistics, only 14% of graduate students go to defense.

Putin:
What are the rest of the time doing? What results do they achieve, where do they continue their activities? Do they end up defending?


Recall that earlier in the "Teacher's newspaper" appeared the material, which stated that in the new government the Ministry of Education and Science can be divided into two departments: the Ministry of Education - separately, the Ministry of Science - separately.
Photos used:
www.globallookpress.com
217 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. 210ox
    210ox April 26 2018 18: 27
    +42
    To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 26 2018 18: 35
      +47
      It has been exactly 20 years now that it has been sitting and urging .. it is necessary to do, every year more and more we are behind the Chinese, they have grown very much in all areas, and we have continuous "breakthroughs" or calls for them ..
      1. mamertinets
        mamertinets April 26 2018 18: 47
        +17
        Quote: Svarog
        It has been exactly 20 years now that it has been sitting and urging .. it is necessary to do, every year more and more we are behind the Chinese, they have grown very much in all areas, and we have continuous "breakthroughs" or calls for them ..

        I have another appeal to the Russians - breed and multiply. I hope you can realize this appeal of mine tonight. smile
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain April 26 2018 19: 10
          +17
          Quote: mamertinets
          I have another appeal to the Russians - breed and multiply. I hope you can realize this appeal of mine tonight

          Razmik, it’s more likely that the Pashinyans jump, jump, higher farther stronger, there you have a crowd on the street the prime minister chooses, you look and they will give you the post of minister. fellow Hop hop wai me. I hope you can implement this call tonight. wink
          1. mamertinets
            mamertinets April 26 2018 19: 50
            +6
            Quote: vovanpain
            Quote: mamertinets
            I have another appeal to the Russians - breed and multiply. I hope you can realize this appeal of mine tonight

            Razmik, it’s more likely that the Pashinyans jump, jump, higher farther stronger, there you have a crowd on the street the prime minister chooses, you look and they will give you the post of minister. fellow Hop hop wai me. I hope you can implement this call tonight. wink

            I am a member of the Prosperous Armenia Party, my leader is Gagik Tsarukyan. I will not betray my leader for the notorious cookies of the State Department. hi
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain April 26 2018 20: 13
              +9
              Quote: mamertinets
              I am a member of the Prosperous Armenia Party, my leader is Gagik Tsarukyan. I will not betray my leader for the notorious cookies of the State Department

              And I'm non-partisan and
              Quote: mamertinets
              breed and multiply

              there are two children and three grandchildren, and we’ll sleep tonight with my wife, because the Russians do not need to go to work early in the morning and do not need such advice, just as you do not need advice on what kind of leader you should be. yes
            2. StVahmistr
              StVahmistr April 27 2018 11: 00
              0
              I am a member of the Prosperous Armenia Party, my leader is Gagik Tsarukyan. I will not betray my leader for the notorious cookies of the State Department.
              wassat
        2. Mstivoy
          Mstivoy April 27 2018 00: 57
          +1
          So we love to smoke cigarettes and drink vodka and beer, and they also dismissed their women so much that they scam all over Turkey and Egypt for sexturism, who will give birth?
      2. GradusHuK
        GradusHuK April 26 2018 18: 48
        +22
        Svarog (Vladimir) Today, 18:35 I am waiting for this “breakthrough ''! Today in the morning in the basement of our apartment building there was a breakthrough of the water pipe sad another on the horizon is not yet visible.
        1. hrych
          hrych April 26 2018 19: 44
          +5
          Quote: GradusHuK
          Waiting for this “breakthrough ''! Today in the morning in the basement of our apartment building there was a breakthrough in the water pipe

          And address your President Pete, ours wassat
          1. The comment was deleted.
      3. venik
        venik April 26 2018 18: 51
        +7
        Quote: Svarog
        For 20 years now she’s been sitting and calling ..

        ===========
        Well, maybe you, dear, enlighten us, "SIRS", WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ???
        Because EVERYBODY can "speak" !!!, But to decide WHAT TO DO - This is already a question - to PEOPLE SERIOUS !!!!
        1. vadsonen
          vadsonen April 27 2018 11: 15
          +1
          Well, maybe you, dear, enlighten us, "SIRS", WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ???

          Comments in the style of “what would you do” are the most moronic.
          So who should know how and what to develop - a dude on the couch without any authority, or a dude in the Kremlin with a whole army of analysts / advisers and the budget of the whole country?
          But Putin was elected, i.e. endowed him with trust and authority. And not for him to call, but for him to know and act.
      4. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 26 2018 19: 08
        +12
        In what areas have they bypassed us? In an atom? In microchips? In aircraft engines?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina April 26 2018 19: 18
          +12
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          In what areas have they bypassed us? In an atom? In microchips? In aircraft engines?

          Sergey, while driving in a car, listened to Putin on the radio. There, he told how a new weapon appeared, which he told the Federal Assembly about. In short, then ... When they began to give grants to the scientists, a team of young guys gathered, united, worked, and handed out to the mountain what Putin was talking about. If everything is right, oh Russia is not lost, since we have such young talents.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith April 26 2018 19: 45
            +7
            There are 82% of such young people in our science. These are young scientists under the age of 30.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina April 26 2018 19: 27
          +7
          Sergey, here, found;
          - We are creating, and I spoke about this in the message, very modern, unique, unparalleled weapons systems in the world. One of these systems was created by a very young team. I ask them: where did you come from? They say that as soon as we began to pay grants, we came as a whole group from the university, created a team and within seven years created this most powerful, most modern strike combat system, - Putin quoted Life as saying.
          1. 210ox
            210ox April 26 2018 19: 35
            +11
            Glory hi If you create conditions for people to work, not spread rot, then the results will not be long in coming. I would like this not only in defense.
            Quote: sabakina
            Sergey, here, found;
            - We are creating, and I spoke about this in the message, very modern, unique, unparalleled weapons systems in the world. One of these systems was created by a very young team. I ask them: where did you come from? They say that as soon as we began to pay grants, we came as a whole group from the university, created a team and within seven years created this most powerful, most modern strike combat system, - Putin quoted Life as saying.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina April 26 2018 19: 43
              +4
              Dima! Well, you yourself see what kind of arrangement in the world. I would like of course, but everything is heating up. And in the end, right now we do not live like after the Second World War, the first years when the quinoa was eaten with nettles, fool, (I have a mother born in 1943). Right now, corruption tightens a noose around our neck, believe me, sometimes my hair stands on end from what I see ...
              1. Svarog
                Svarog April 26 2018 21: 27
                +8
                Quote: sabakina
                Well, you yourself see what kind of arrangement in the world. I would like of course, but everything is heating up.

                It has been heating up for the past 4 years, and before that, oil at 120 dollars each. and no one really bothered that they did it? Justification for everything can always be found .. but it is not possible to find an excuse for a person who has been in power for 20 years ..
            2. Bad_santa
              Bad_santa April 27 2018 09: 28
              +1
              It’s not enough to come up with something new. it must be introduced into production. So far, there is no need to talk about any introduction and new production. Most likely only the old is falling apart. Even those factories that were recently built
        3. Shukshin
          Shukshin April 27 2018 05: 34
          0
          in the field of production of teapots, coffee makers, pans, toilets, they are indisputable leaders so far)))
        4. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn April 27 2018 08: 33
          +1
          Quote: Sith Lord
          In what areas have they bypassed us? In an atom? In microchips? In aircraft engines?

          Yes, even in an ordinary household tool - no matter how you go to the store, everything is made in China - hammers, drills, keys, etc. China will close the market, there will be nothing to hammer a nail fellow
          1. StVahmistr
            StVahmistr April 27 2018 11: 06
            0
            Yes, even in an ordinary household tool - no matter how you go to the store, everything is made in China - hammers, drills, keys, etc. China will close the market, there will be nothing to hammer a nail
            I think that all this is not from the unwillingness to do something, but from the frantic interest on the loan, because of which all these products will be more expensive than Chinese. Unprofitable ... Something like this ...
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 April 26 2018 18: 37
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..

      And in our country, without calls and without kicks in the ass, no one will move! Putin outlined the picture, and how to make his calls heard and noted, this is the work of pundits.
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller April 26 2018 18: 42
        +13
        Woe, when all these calls are limited to ...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 26 2018 18: 50
          +12
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Woe, when all these calls are limited.

          Woe will be for all those displeased here, when these calls pour out into the scientific achievements of Russia!
      2. GradusHuK
        GradusHuK April 26 2018 18: 51
        +2
        SRC P-15 (Alexander) Today, 18:37 I understand you. It's all about pundits lol
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 26 2018 18: 58
          +8
          Quote: GradusHuK
          I understand you. It's all about pundits.

          Yes, certainly not in the gulps shouting that everything is bad in the country and who can save! stop
          1. GradusHuK
            GradusHuK April 26 2018 19: 02
            +4
            The calls are already full! yes
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 April 26 2018 19: 04
              +4
              Quote: GradusHuK
              The calls are already full!

              Clear. A full hungry one does not understand. You tell me: why is the Russian language so hated that everyone is trying to write his nickname in English? Maybe the fact is that you all do not live in Russia, but here we give advice “with knowledge of business”?
              1. GradusHuK
                GradusHuK April 26 2018 19: 12
                +10
                So for sure! I work a lot more. I have less opportunities to live comfortably. My family has three children and my beloved wife. I’m fed up with slogans and impoverishment.
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 April 26 2018 19: 19
                  +3
                  Quote: GradusHuK
                  impaired

                  Can you pull up a little literacy? Two mistakes in one word - bust.
                  1. GradusHuK
                    GradusHuK April 26 2018 19: 25
                    +2
                    It would not hurt to argue. Yes, not when sad WORK DOES NOT WAIT!
                    1. viktor.
                      viktor. April 27 2018 01: 15
                      0
                      Quote: GradusHuK
                      It would not hurt to argue. Yes, not when sad WORK DOES NOT WAIT!

                      Couch worker, in the bazaar selling seeds? laughing
                2. hrych
                  hrych April 26 2018 19: 36
                  +7
                  Quote: GradusHuK
                  I work a lot more. Opportunities to live comfortably less. A family of three children and a beloved wife.

                  So do not waste time on social networks, go to work laughing If you have the strength to chat, then you are not giving your best at work laughing And also, open your face, take off the flag of the USSR and see what kind of country it is in. I'm afraid it will be Independent wassat
                  1. GradusHuK
                    GradusHuK April 26 2018 19: 46
                    +12
                    Don’t teach me how to live; help better financially (c) Under this flag I swore an oath to SA. And I wouldn’t advise me at all. I would tell you where to go ...
                  2. GradusHuK
                    GradusHuK April 26 2018 21: 35
                    0
                    grunt (Grunt) Today, 19:36 And the keys to the apartment ...? (s) lol
              2. GradusHuK
                GradusHuK April 26 2018 19: 15
                +2
                SRC P-15 (Alexander) Today, 19:04 Do not treat DoHtur yes Go down to the ground.
        2. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller April 26 2018 19: 03
          +5
          It is a pity only - to live in this wonderful time
          I don’t have to - neither to me nor to you. "
      3. naidas
        naidas April 26 2018 19: 08
        +10
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        case of pundits

        These pundits also take note of:
        Kudrin, Ulyukaev, Nabibulina-in economics, Chubais, Rogozin, Serdyukov in technology, Medvedev, Surkov, sand in politics.
        So you hold on there.
    3. Monos
      Monos April 26 2018 18: 44
      +13
      Quote: 210ox
      To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..

      We must do and call. Hedgehog is a proud bird until you kick it. smile And not so bad. I communicate with students and young professionals. They make me happy - energetic, purposeful, focused on the result. With them, everything is fine, they do not whine, but work.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 26 2018 19: 21
        +4
        Victor, hi read my post above.
        1. Monos
          Monos April 26 2018 20: 20
          +5
          Hello, Glory hi
          Which of the three? laughing Joke. I say: our youth is smart and talented. And the fact that corruption ... And who said that this cannot be an element of a hybrid war? Mina was laid back in 90.
    4. Dead duck
      Dead duck April 26 2018 18: 53
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..

      they think so too ... although maybe only one thinks laughing

      hi
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 26 2018 19: 25
        +6
        Vitaly, prvevet! Eo picture about how Trump was brushing off dandruff from Macron? Yesterday was infa ...
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck April 26 2018 20: 09
          +5
          Quote: sabakina
          Eo picture about how Trump was brushing off dandruff from Macron?

          Welcome hi
          yeah, looking for delicacies laughing
      2. midivan
        midivan April 26 2018 20: 11
        +2
        Quote: Deadush
        they think so too ... although maybe only one thinks

        I have one got the feeling from this photo that after pointing the “gloss”, the head will be sharply turned to the macronchik to the left and the corresponding device at the appropriate height will be in the mouth lol
      3. Mstivoy
        Mstivoy April 27 2018 01: 02
        0
        In vain you are so about Kozyrev, perfectly copes with the task.
    5. Baloo
      Baloo April 26 2018 19: 28
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..

      To do this, you need at least “chubais” to sew mittens for the Urals, otherwise they stick to science like leeches. angry
    6. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM April 26 2018 21: 43
      +1
      And what about us, already all educational institutions are so equipped with modern high-precision equipment that they are able and ready to conduct breakthrough research? To whom to call?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 26 2018 21: 51
        +6
        Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
        But what about us, already all institutes are so equipped with modern high-precision equipment that they are able and ready to conduct breakthrough research?

        For research, and even "breakthrough", sometimes "modern high-precision equipment" with ryushechkami and branded label is not necessary at all.
        If it were necessary, Soviet science would be hopelessly lagging behind. But for some reason ... she was not there request
        In this regard, the thought (like the apparatus, thinking this thought) nevertheless primary. A good chemist, for example, is able to assemble an experimental setup for his own needs. Well, if the hands are not from the lower "shoulder girdle", essno.
        1. SHURUM -BURUM
          SHURUM -BURUM April 26 2018 21: 57
          +2
          Do you mean Heisenberg from the series? Breakthrough solutions are not created on the knee, colleague.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 26 2018 21: 58
            +3
            Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
            YOU mean Heisenberg

            I mean, for example, my father and his colleagues. IHF AN USSR. I saw how and on what they worked, and what results they got.
            Colleague yes
            1. SHURUM -BURUM
              SHURUM -BURUM April 26 2018 22: 05
              +1
              Roman, according to the beginning of the article, the appeal is calculated (by the way, not the first time) not to research institutes, there is just now a favorable situation, but to educational ones. A few years ago I was at one of the instrument-making departments of a well-known training institute. Allegedly in the laboratory ... A sad sight.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 26 2018 22: 12
                +2
                Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
                Sad sight

                I graduated from the physics and chemistry department of MISiS in 198 *. Even then, the sight was ... sad.
                Nevertheless, scientific work was still ongoing, and is still ongoing.
                By the way, the questions posed by Putin directly to scientific work in educational universities have, ahem, a very indirect relationship.
                IMHO.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 April 27 2018 09: 13
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          In this regard, thought (like the apparatus thinking this thought) is still primary. A good chemist, for example, is able to assemble an experimental setup for his own needs.

          any chemical reactor in any case is always braided by pipes, pumps, radiators ... i.e. a good chemist needs at least a good energy engineer, engineer, materials ... i.e. financing
          To stimulate the development of thought processes, one needs a direction, the vector of which is set by the needs of consumers of science. Who is our consumer of science? There is no production, it is not profitable. Anything you can buy abroad. There are consumers. A lot of our brainy scientists are now in China. There is a vector.
          Roman, in my opinion, you and I have already talked about Purpose with ideology. When will the goal be and progress
    7. iouris
      iouris April 26 2018 22: 19
      0
      Real universities left, maybe a dozen and a half. In the "breakthrough" you can throw two or three. Why did they gather the rectors of the rest? They are engaged in graduation.
    8. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn April 27 2018 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      To call this one thing .. And to make science and production develop by leaps and bounds, this is quite another ..

      Putin says that it’s always right, you won’t find fault! But usually nothing goes further than words, because no one is going to execute his words, or they will (so with the closure of the dump in Balashikha) that it would be better not to
    9. Skif83
      Skif83 April 27 2018 10: 35
      0
      Not with the current "advisers" and ministers ... !!!
  2. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 26 2018 18: 27
    +21
    laughing Aha ha ha! It is powerful! After he and his government dibilized the youth of the exam.
    Right now, apparently, it will be necessary to threaten the west not only with single missiles but also with oak brains.
    1. Russia
      Russia April 26 2018 18: 30
      +12
      Yes, the exam is a stone on the neck of our educational process.
    2. Hire
      Hire April 26 2018 18: 32
      +21
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      the youth of the Unified State Exam has been stoned.

      I sympathize with you, you are a vivid example of the victim of the exam. smile
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov April 26 2018 18: 36
        +18
        smile You better sympathize with yourself, you are an example of a victim of Kremlin propaganda.
        1. Hire
          Hire April 26 2018 18: 51
          +15
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          smile You better sympathize with yourself, you are an example of a victim of Kremlin propaganda.

          And I myself am "Kremlin propaganda." Why should I empathize with myself? laughing
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 00
            +12
            smile It can be seen! Power and pressure and a lack of understanding of realities are noticeable. lol
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain April 26 2018 19: 13
              +12
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              It can be seen! Noticeable power and pressure and lack of understanding of realities

              Andrey, do not bury yourself, nobody calls you a fool, and from the outside do not look beautiful at all. hi
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 24
                +10
                stop Waldemar, and where and whom did I call the Fool? It's not my fault that your propagandists are not of a high level.
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain April 26 2018 19: 31
                  +6
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  It's not my fault that your propagandists are not of a high level.

                  What are your Andrey? Or do we live in different countries and look at each other through the sight. laughing Enemies surround you? Well, on May 7, Navalny was going to Maidan, help him with propaganda. You don’t care with anyone to unite against the comprador authorities even with Zyuganov and Grudinin, even with Navalny and shkolota. hi
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker April 26 2018 19: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    Well, so on May 7 Bulk Maydan was going to help him with propaganda

                    Current if the head doctor lets go ...
                    "Then the orderlies came running
                    And they fixed us.
                    .. "
                    lol
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 47
                      +10
                      laughing Aha ha ha Another reincarnation of Golovan got out! Dear, tie up to play role-playing games!
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Quote: vovanpain
                      Well, so on May 7 Bulk Maydan was going to help him with propaganda

                      Current if the head doctor lets go ...
                      "Then the orderlies came running
                      And they fixed us.
                      .. "
                      lol
                      1. vovanpain
                        vovanpain April 26 2018 20: 27
                        +6
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        Vladimir, to be honest, I did not understand the meaning of the last sentence.

                        Why Andrey is not clear request
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        Another reincarnation of Golovan got out!

                        and here is the reincarnation of Golovan Jack, if the Stalkerwalker colleague is named Valentine, and Golovan Jack Roman request Did you think that this is one person? You are forbidden to see this and can be tracked instantly. Yes, and Roman is not banned, why should he reincarnate.
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack April 26 2018 20: 32
                        +10
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        Another reincarnation Golovan got out

                        Um ... Octopus ... all the hell seem to you. Bad sign by the way wink
                        Do you kick all the bastards on the forums, son and grandson of a lawyer?
                        Need to work. Labor, he even made a man out of a monkey ... You, of course, are not a gift either, but certainly not a monkey yes
                    2. vovanpain
                      vovanpain April 26 2018 20: 03
                      +4
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Current if the head doctor lets go ..

                      Valentine Hello! drinks hi Crossed you, you will live long bully
                      Quote: andrej-shironov
                      Another reincarnation Golovan got out

                      Andrew, Golovan Jack Roman's name, tie and cross it. laughing hi
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov April 26 2018 20: 11
                        +3
                        Andrew, Golovan Jack Roman's name, tie and cross it.

                        Vladimir, to be honest, I did not understand the meaning of the last sentence. About what your name is, you write to Golovan. If he starts, then people will probably be drawn to him lol
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker April 26 2018 23: 24
                        +2
                        Quote: vovanpain
                        Valentine Hello!

                        Hi Vladimir!
                        hi
                        Quote: vovanpain
                        Crossed you, you will live long

                        Well, yes .... If the holy fool remembers you on your birthday, you will live long ...
                        drinks wassat
                  2. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 37
                    +5
                    laughing Waldemar, I beg you! You are, as always, in your repertoire! On May 1, I am scheduled to go out with my family to barbecue with revolutionary songs, and on May 9 I will visit a military burial place with my family! You really let us help shkolota there. Do not forget about EP. wink
                    1. vovanpain
                      vovanpain April 26 2018 19: 57
                      +5
                      Quote: andrej-shironov
                      You are, as always, in your repertoire! On May 1, I am scheduled to go out with my family to barbecue with revolutionary songs

                      It good good good We’ll also go with the household to open the summer season, though without revolutionary songs, but it’s sure to be about the reeds that have bent. laughing yes But on May 9, we’ll go with the whole family to the graves of my grandfathers, as far as I can remember, we always have such a ritual in our family. Only Andrei doesn’t need me either edra or the current communists with Zyuganov hi , in general, I do not need parties, non-partisan I, as I remained a Komsomol member, and now at 52 I remain.
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov April 26 2018 20: 01
                        +4
                        So I don’t send you to the Communists, I myself am also non-partisan, if that. And I was not even a Komsomol member. I remember when I joined the Komsomol, when I said that I did not believe the Komsomol members at that time and would not join, they were very pressured, but seeing my resolve they lagged behind. Therefore, I do not hold back evil on the Communists. With them, there was at least a hint of social justice, unlike the current authorities.
              2. sabakina
                sabakina April 26 2018 19: 32
                +2
                Privet to Vovka! We burrow, do not burrow, you will receive a medal, with which you can congratulate me!
            2. Hire
              Hire April 26 2018 19: 13
              +8
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              smile It can be seen! Power and pressure and a lack of understanding of realities are noticeable. lol

              And you, you see, the propagandist is liberal-biased. Recognized by demagoguery, ignoring the facts, the general not owning the material, the lack of logic and cliches. I will not say that I am glad to meet you, but I will pay attention. smile
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 25
                +6
                smile Wow! Is it just liberal-biased? You really pay attention to me, so you do not write such nonsense later wink
                1. Hire
                  Hire April 26 2018 19: 44
                  +7
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  You really pay attention to me

                  Don’t flirt with me. I disdain it. Accustomed to traditional values.
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 48
                    +2
                    smile Come on! To traditional? I doubt it very much.
                    1. Hire
                      Hire April 26 2018 19: 51
                      +6
                      Quote: andrej-shironov
                      Strongly doubt.

                      Turn your doubts into a tube and put them where you are used to having fun.
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 55
                        +6
                        laughing And say traditional values! Yes you naughty, apparently understand a lot, unlike me. wink
                      2. Hire
                        Hire April 26 2018 20: 06
                        +8
                        Neither mind nor logic. You are a typical tolerast. Did I tell you that already? I don’t understand why you are trying to deny it. It seems that in your environment today it is not accepted ...
            3. Russia
              Russia April 26 2018 20: 02
              +9
              You don’t pull on a fighter with windmills, only with fans and then turn it off and the problem is gone, but you are left.
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              smile It can be seen! Power and pressure and a lack of understanding of realities are noticeable. lol
            4. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn April 27 2018 08: 43
              0
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              It can be seen! Power and pressure and a lack of understanding of realities are noticeable.
              But in the "colonels" for the month fellow for rapid career growth, an understanding of reality, a thing that is absolutely unnecessary, I would even say more - frankly harmful
      2. shans2
        shans2 April 26 2018 18: 52
        +3
        for most here, from under the proxy, the Russian language is not native, their native language is MOV + Hebrew)
    3. midivan
      midivan April 26 2018 18: 49
      +6
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Aha ha ha! It is powerful! After he and him Government Dibylized Youth USE.
      Right now, apparently, it will be necessary to threaten the west not only with single missiles but also with oak brains.

      One of the newest weapon systems shown during the President’s Address to the Federal Assembly was created by a group of young scientists, Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of the Russian Union of Rectors. The head of state explained that he met with this team and asked how they developed such a unique system. Specialists replied that they came to the enterprise after the university, formed a team and in seven years they constructed weapons that have no analogues in the world.
      Well, the question is, do you have children, also stupid people?
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 27
        +3
        smile But on the fence, too, they write a lot of things, but they say a lot on the market. Do you believe everything? There are children, and believe me, I’m not preparing them for the exam. wink
        1. midivan
          midivan April 26 2018 19: 47
          +4
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          There are children, and believe me, I’m not preparing them for the exam.

          I will use your own statement-
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          But on the fence, too, they write a lot of things, but they say a lot on the market.

          I don’t believe you., It turns out logical? wink
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov April 26 2018 19: 52
            +2
            wink Well, if I tried to convince you, yes. But you understand me convincing you are not interested. I have long gone out of age when "for the sake of a red word you will not regret your father either" hi
  3. kefan
    kefan April 26 2018 18: 29
    +5
    Now, if highly educated specialists had not yet left the country, it would have been generally good.
    1. midivan
      midivan April 26 2018 18: 57
      +6
      Quote: kefan
      Now, if highly educated specialists had not yet left the country, it would have been generally good.

      And if our specialists, including those from the site, left there to let horror and throw it on a fan, it would be just great! Somehow it slipped through, on the proposal to move over the praised hillock, they replied that there was no money, I have a proposal to fold off and send all the fans to their dream places, let pi ..... t from this we will only benefit yes and the money invested in this business will more than pay off to us.
  4. Don
    Don April 26 2018 18: 29
    +14
    To call him a master, we have known this for a long time smile
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 April 26 2018 18: 51
      +11
      Well, wagging your tongue is not tossing bags, so it's time to get used to it. The main thing is to call, and then either the donkey will die, or it will become irrelevant against the background of new tasks ..
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov April 26 2018 18: 51
      +5
      for the 152nd time the sun-faced man fluttered. We are waiting for the 153rd time.
    3. kefan
      kefan April 26 2018 18: 55
      +3
      As they say, p-not bags tossing and turning laughing
    4. Dead duck
      Dead duck April 26 2018 19: 06
      +4
      Quote: Donskoy
      To call him a master, we have known this for a long time

      and then swell to others ... after the call laughing

  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 26 2018 18: 33
    +8
    To begin, cancel the unnecessary exam, and return the Soviet system of education and training! Then, go from words to deeds, and take care of the country's economy, while the country still has at least some kind of economy!
    1. Don
      Don April 26 2018 18: 56
      +9
      Are you talking to Putin? Not tired yet? belay
    2. S_Baykala
      S_Baykala April 26 2018 19: 32
      +5
      Vitalievich! hi I am joining. Repeatedly wrote, said, argued, I think - the Soviet education system is one of the best in the world. I will not say that the best is the best (I do not know all the world education systems). But to testing - I'm an open enemy.
  6. free
    free April 26 2018 18: 33
    +6
    It can not promise too bad! It’s true where to promise and where to fulfill, but who cares about such trifles.
  7. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 26 2018 18: 37
    +6
    The doctor acted for good.
    It’s a pity that the good is not mine ...
  8. Irokez
    Irokez April 26 2018 18: 37
    +7
    Everywhere you spit critics.
    The fact is that on the couch chatting and oak posts to create progress, as well as those who know about it for a long time, sit and grind, but for what they themselves do not know, just to chatter the smart thread you look and support the same.
    What’s the downside, will we soon throw negatives?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 34
      +16
      Quote: Irokez
      Everywhere you spit critics.

      But you, pro-Putin, wherever you go by the rampart and "for darma" even a dime a dozen. And, which is characteristic, they are utter nonsense about how the "Great and Insightful" sees everything "for many years to come", and "things are still there." With capitalism, my friend, you can’t even pull the wool for free. The essence of the economic model, which is nurtured and supported by the authorities by the arms and armpits, is that "no one will give you deliverance:" neither money for the development of production, nor production necessary for economic development but not bearing immediate profit, nor personnel who are "in quiet far away "they will forge victories for the benefit of the Deripassa, Sechin, Prokhorov and others like him.
      You yourself, standing next to the sofa (on the podium, at the pulpit, at the counter, behind the counter) can explain what you and your leader want? It seems to me that you see it so that people know less, eat less, get sick less, give birth less, rest less, live less, work more, pay more taxes and constantly (in any case expressed) wassat fellow
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 26 2018 23: 05
        +3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        You yourself, standing next to the sofa (on the podium, at the pulpit, at the counter, behind the counter) can explain what you and your leader want?

        Waiting for an answer? I probably answer my compatriot since the flag of Russia and the nickname ROSS (not really God's ROSS).
        Me and We (not you are critical) and Our (and not your pocket) Leader build our own (not for strangers), protect our world (and not stranger) and want to live our own way (and not according to someone else imposed on us by You).
        And not only Ours (I repeat Ours, not Yours) The Leader sees everything and knows in front of people like him a lot. And since you are so worried about us, it means that something is not working out for you at all or it is not working out at all to persuade those who build their world, preserve their civilization and culture. You try to lure the disobedient with a sweet life, imaginary freedom, false values ​​(freedom of sex and egocentrism), reformat the youth for yourself. You expose all true, natural values ​​as a laughing stock, humiliate and insult, slander and CRITICIZE. Normal universal human and spiritual feelings and values ​​are presented as weakness, dishonored, and doused with mud. You reject everything just and conscientious as a relic of the past, imposing a new disgusting and unacceptable for us.
        Remember ROSS, he (GDP) is not the only one, but one of us serves us. All point. soldier
  9. Egorovich
    Egorovich April 26 2018 18: 38
    +12
    At present, there are four times as many university students in Russia as there were in the USSR, although the population of the Union was almost twice as many. This is where the production of "high-class specialists" comes from. Education is zilch!
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter April 26 2018 19: 31
      +4
      Egoritch, hello! hi
      Quote: Egorovich
      At present, there are four times as many university students in Russia as there were in the USSR, although the population of the Union was almost twice as many.

      good Read my thoughts ! drinks Quantity is already there, now it would not hurt to turn it into quality. yes
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich April 26 2018 19: 53
        +4
        Hello, Pasha! The institute, which I graduated in 1983, became a university. Here are doctors of science, candidates five times increased. At a technical university, the main specialties are economist, financier, lawyer, etc. Techies 20%. And everything is sold and bought. What the hell are the experts.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2018 21: 30
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quantity is already there, now it would not hurt to turn it into quality.

        What dad is not invested in, then do not drive a stick. My daughter is studying for a veterinarian, went to a competition in Ulyanovsk. So, mostly dagi study in UlSA, and all of them are almost XNUMX% complete in the USE. And in Russian, no gu-gu. Which of them are specialists?
        And about Putin’s speeches, I don’t believe it. Education is a contribution to the future, and they put it there as if it were a train station need. Didn’t Putin know? Yes, and continue to crap ....
  10. astepanov
    astepanov April 26 2018 18: 45
    +19
    At the university that I graduated, the professor’s rate now is 22 thousand rubles, flaky walls of classrooms, equipment from the seventies ... But on the territory there is a new church, on the facades of a sign with gilding. As for graduate students, they say that there is little defense, it would be better if they did not defend themselves at all. The level of work is depressingly low, and not only for candidates. Recently I read an abstract of the doctoral dissertation of a figure from Novocherkassk: with a “scoop” with such wild mistakes from the defense of a simple diploma, they would have kicked him. And where are they, these fake "candidates" with the "doctors" to put? In the same native university, there were three doctors at the chemistry department - and all recognized scientists; now there are 12 doctors, about the work of most of which no one has heard. And if before they were engaged in important applied and fundamental tasks, since there were devices, materials, personnel, and money, now the word “nano” is heard all over the topic’s names - a symbol of scam and theft, implicated in poverty.
    What you have been breaking for decades cannot be built quickly - all the more so, by appeals.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 26 2018 18: 57
      +5
      If there were cons on the site, I personally would put a minus sign for you every five minutes! !! am
      1. astepanov
        astepanov April 26 2018 19: 48
        +4
        Quote: Herkulesich
        I personally would give you a minuscule for the "scoop" every five minutes!

        Uh, it's not the name. In those days there were many different things - but with education and science it was incomparably better.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 37
      +3
      Quote: astepanov
      What you have been breaking for decades cannot be built quickly - all the more so, by appeals.

      Calls cannot be built, but to call you need to clean yourself and make a couple of friends under the mirror ...
  11. Vova Kabaev
    Vova Kabaev April 26 2018 18: 46
    +3
    Science is an organized science group.
  12. faterdom
    faterdom April 26 2018 18: 46
    +4
    Rectors who have been granted the right to come up with a pay are hopelessly spoiled. They already have nothing else but to invent and justify their pay no longer know how to, and this is not interesting to them in principle. And, I forgot, I’m still planting all the relatives on a sinecure in the entrusted possessions. Although there are exceptions, such as J. Alferov, he is not a product of this system, but rather an old dinosaur.
  13. VladVlad
    VladVlad April 26 2018 18: 46
    +6
    "spoke of the need for a scientific breakthrough. If we do not, we will hopelessly lag behind. Really lag, understand?!" Putin! Who are you talking to? These your listeners will not help you with anything! Previously, 18 years old, were not capable, and now the same are not capable! This is mediocrity, mediocre and stupid. They are managers or businessmen. The development of science and progress is not theirs! You don’t bet on those. In the Soviet years, the rectors were mostly super scientists, and in the institutes the scientific part was breakthrough! The volume of science in the institutes was huge! Now, even for money, these students will give you a result of about zero; Look for others, in Russia there are a lot of normal and smart men! Not all tricky!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 26 2018 22: 18
      +1
      Quote: VladVlad
      Now, even for money, these students will give you a result of about zero, in vain they will master the money! Look for others, in Russia there are a lot of normal and smart men! Not all tricky!

      wassat The cry of the soul of the unrecognized "genius of invention." fellow One question: with the president, judging by the appeal to him, from young nails? wink
  14. shans2
    shans2 April 26 2018 18: 48
    +1
    A breakthrough has already happened, a new weapon is proof of this.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 26 2018 18: 56
      +9
      Quote: shans2
      A breakthrough has already happened, a new weapon is proof of this.

      This is not a breakthrough. It is a development and a backlog of Soviet times. The question is not only about the defense industry, but also about the civilian sphere. New sources of energy, new materials, industrialization of the country as such. There are a lot of directions. And here Putin is absolutely right — if we don’t scratch now, then we’ll leave behind forever.
      The choice is either to remain a world gas station or to be a high-tech country, capable of creating a breakthrough not only in the military sphere, but also in the civilian one.
      In fact, the modernization of education, medicine and all sectors of the country's social life is a matter of state sovereignty.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 26 2018 19: 05
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        And here Putin is absolutely right — if we don’t scratch now, then we’ll leave behind forever.
        The choice is either to remain a world gas station or to be a high-tech country, capable of creating a breakthrough not only in the military sphere, but also in the civilian one.

        Somehow involuntarily, the words of I. Stalin are recalled that if the remaining gap with developed capstranges is not run for 10-15 years, then they simply get crushed ....
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 26 2018 19: 11
          +6
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Somehow involuntarily, the words of I. Stalin are recalled that if the remaining gap with developed capstranes is not run for 10-15 years, then they will simply be crushed.

          I am outraged by this ... against the background of these statements, our bureaucrats are sitting in their offices and are only rowing money ... we want a breakthrough? But what about the old inventors and doctors of science who were simply thrown out and nobody cares?

          Look carefully at what this person invented and when. And what's wrong with him now. We are talking about breakthroughs, but we don’t value our golden heads. And for me this is pure political hypocrisy.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 26 2018 19: 15
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            And for me this is pure political hypocrisy.

            Andrei, well, you know that repeating History turns into a farce ....
            Today's Russia is not the USSR of the 30 of the last century. Moreover - these are absolutely 2 different countries. The only thing that unites is geography and the fact that the Russian Federation is the heir to the USSR.
            Nothing more to explain - clever and so knows ...
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 27 2018 00: 40
              +1
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Today's Russia is not the USSR of the 30s of the last century.

              It’s true, but only people are the same ... we, as a people, have an ever-dormant ability to sleep for decades for the first time and then heroically surprise the whole world with discoveries, inventions and successes. This has been formed in the genome for thousands of years.
              Who was waiting in the 90s that Russia will begin to rise? Even mattresses with their analysts did not predict this. Although we have always been the main opponents.
              As for the fact that here many commentators cherish Putin, they say he woke up to squeeze money from the rich and so on ... I’ve always been amazed at this, because by such judgments, Putin should do everything and for everyone. There is enough mess in the country, but blaming everything on one person, as is customary in Russia in our country, is stupid.
              Let's watch. Is the Chechen war over? Yes. Did the army come to life with the military-industrial complex? Yes. Space poorly poorly not buried? And the list goes on. I’m not saying that Putin’s merit is in this, but the facts are stubborn things and the dynamics of recovery on the face. Take some kind of clever commentator, and put him in the President’s chair and say, make life better in Russia. I am sure it will sit, stupidly shamelessly and shrug.
              What am I talking about? So, far from everyone can manage such a whopper as the Russian Federation. And in such a case, mistakes and miscalculations cannot be avoided and a bunch of dissatisfied with life, critics, etc. I am not defending Putin, but talking about understanding what kind of burden he has on his shoulders. And all by pike dictation will not work. And here I am convinced that everyone should do their job well, and not look at the main thing. Any person has people who disagree with him, who are aggressive towards him, who cannot and do not want to understand him, due to the fact that what the hell to strain, is it easier to sit and criticize?
              For me, the main indicator of the good dynamics in the development of life in Russia is that bombs are not pouring on our houses, that I calmly take my child to school, that I have a job, and that the wild 90s and many more positive moments have ended. For such a giant as Russia, 30 years is not a deadline. To raise it and make it a world technology leader, much remains to be done. The social part is one of the priority ones, since people want to work comfortably, get a penny for their work and still not rush anywhere, looking for a warmer place abroad. Ideology, education, medicine, culture, prosperity
              Charm is all you need to recreate in essence. And if a person understands this, then he will never cry that Putin has sunk all polymer.
          2. gridasov
            gridasov April 27 2018 17: 34
            0
            This is shock !!! After such a strong fact, you need to think about priorities.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 27 2018 17: 38
              0
              Quote: gridasov
              This is shock !!! After such a strong fact, you need to think about priorities.

              So think about it ... although why do you need it?
              1. gridasov
                gridasov April 27 2018 18: 29
                0
                if humanity had not been fueled by discoveries and inventions, then through a generation degradation would have been obvious. Therefore, geniuses and their ideas have always appeared when this is necessary.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 40
          +6
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Somehow involuntarily, the words of I. Stalin are recalled that if the remaining gap with developed capstranges is not run for 10-15 years, then they simply get crushed ....

          Yes, Stalin recalls:
          "It is necessary to achieve such a cultural growth of society that would ensure all members of the society comprehensive development of their physical and mental abilities, so that members of the society have the opportunity to receive an education sufficient to become active workers in social development, so that they have the opportunity to freely choose a profession, and not to be confined for life, due to the existing division of labor into any profession.

          What is required for this?

          It would be wrong to think that it is possible to achieve such a serious cultural growth of members of society without serious changes in the current situation of labor. To do this, first of all, reduce the working day to at least 6, and then to 5 hours. This is necessary so that members of society receive enough free time necessary to receive a comprehensive education.

          To do this, it is necessary to further radically improve housing conditions and raise the real wages of workers and employees at least twice, if not more, both by directly increasing the wage and, especially, by further systematically lowering the prices of consumer goods. "
    2. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon April 26 2018 21: 54
      0
      yeah, eat up the Soviet backlog of 70 -80 years!
      1. shans2
        shans2 April 26 2018 23: 13
        0
        yes, really, a new groundwork has been made for 20-30 years, everything that was presented on March 1, and Putin’s talk is that in order not to be behind in 20 years, we must continue to work today, without slowing down the momentum.
  15. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 26 2018 18: 48
    +4
    A technological breakthrough is primarily people.
    Smart, bold, technologically literate. People are able to quickly and efficiently solve breakthrough tasks.
    In Russia, I am sure there are such people.
    But donkeys lead them.
    Napoleon and Peter 1 singled out talented people, despite the estates, and set them tasks.
    And Russia is moving towards a class society. And this is a disaster.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov April 27 2018 17: 42
      0
      First you need to very accurately determine what will be the systemic component of what can be called a breakthrough.
  16. ivagulin
    ivagulin April 26 2018 18: 51
    +4
    called again, asked, president well, well
  17. midshipman
    midshipman April 26 2018 19: 05
    +10
    At the postgraduate study of JSC "VNIIRA" this year it is planned to submit 12 dissertations for defense. Three are already protected. Those. 100% yield. I am the chairman of the dissessional council.
    The trouble is that nobody needs our patents. I have already given an example to the readers of VO. When I was a graduate student (1963-1964), for one patent (antenna on the LDPE tube of a supersonic fighter), my wife and I built a 3-room apartment in Leningrad. What now? In China over a year, more than 1 million patents, in the Russian Federation about 30 thousand. And they don’t pay money.
    1. Curious
      Curious April 26 2018 19: 19
      +2
      Yuri Grigoryevich! A patent in itself does not mean anything if there is no one to implement it, nowhere and nothing. But tell me, honestly, do those dissertations that you defended really have practical value?
      1. midshipman
        midshipman April 26 2018 19: 46
        +5
        Dear Victor, our council considers dissertations only with a signature stamp. The results for all dissertations have acts of implementation. And the economic effect. Publications only in the journals of the Higher Attestation Commission. I myself am also a member of the editorial boards of such five journals.
        1. Curious
          Curious April 26 2018 20: 04
          +2
          Thanks for the answer, Yuri Grigoryevich!
        2. Fedoslov
          Fedoslov April 26 2018 23: 33
          0
          I have always been struck by such comrades, excuse me for being blunt. Are you a political scientist, historian, economist, lawyer, sociologist? No. You have no idea about politics, although without a doubt the highest professional in the natural sciences. So why are you commenting on Putin’s promises that he has made since 2000 and is not fulfilling? What a breakthrough? What, increased funding by 5 - 10 times for science and related industries? Are there any changes in law enforcement and the judicial system so that they can effectively control the spending of funds for scientific purposes? What, a huge number of cases have been done on the basis of which you can make a breakthrough? No.
          So do not be compared to any skaters, artists, directors who have no clue in politics, have settled in the State Duma and eat three throats, without even realizing what is happening.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 26 2018 23: 37
            +4
            Quote: Fedoslov
            Fedoslov

            Yuri G. Shatrakov - type in google.
            Then do not forget to apologize, the person in this case knows the subject he is talking about.
            Unlike you negative
            1. Fedoslov
              Fedoslov April 27 2018 00: 09
              0
              Have you carefully read my post? I do not question the merits of Yu.G.
              But these merits in the field of technology, understand? And what are his merits in public administration? In economics?
              Statesmen determine how much money scientists should allocate and what scientists should spend it on. Primitive of course, but I will not paint everything.
              Over the past 27 years, how much has been allocated to science? Crumbs! And the personnel leak? So what a breakthrough could be?
              A breakthrough requires tremendous exertion of all the forces of society, especially the best of its members. Do you see the prerequisites for this?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 27 2018 00: 47
                +3
                Quote: Fedoslov
                And what are his merits in public administration? In economics?

                Read my post below. In the USSR, he was the head of NII-33, and the head of dozens of enterprises. So he knows what he is writing about. All argue more with you there is no desire.
              2. gridasov
                gridasov April 27 2018 17: 46
                0
                Breakthroughs cannot be created by voluntary means. Individuals make breakthroughs with their non-standard decisions and based on their unique abilities to see and understand what is hidden from others
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 27 2018 00: 05
            +2
            Quote: Fedoslov
            Are you a political scientist, historian, economist, lawyer, sociologist?

            Are you writing this to Yu. G. Shatrakov? You, citizen, simply do not understand who it is. This person has as many awards and regalia, as well as scientific papers, as you never dreamed of. repeat
            1. Fedoslov
              Fedoslov April 27 2018 00: 12
              0
              In what field? Absolutely not in the one in question. And forgive me for my impudence, I do not perceive certain judgments and conclusions, although they are spoken by a serious scientist.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 27 2018 00: 25
                +4
                Have you been banned in Google? In the field of radio and space. Its antennas are on fighter jets, he is a developer of Buran landing systems, and a member of the commission for its launch, under his leadership more than 250 thousand people worked in the USSR in the field of radio electronics, the author of more than 360 scientific papers and publications. I’m writing all this from memory, I can be wrong somewhere, because I was interested in his biography about two years ago.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 26 2018 23: 47
      0
      "In the PRC over a year more than 1 million patents." And of these, breakthrough units, the rest of the refinement has already been created. Just stamping that will roll dead weight for its inventors.
  18. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 26 2018 19: 09
    +4
    Gorbachev used to say this all the time ....- you can’t live like that, you need to do something .... but what's the point of talking, you have been trusted by the state, give birth to all these breakthroughs. Change all these blockheads. Vladimir Vladimirovich a group of experts will gather, people who really rummage in the industry and choose not Uncle Vasya with whom you studied at the same school or university but choose on their hands. The duty is really a super rummaging dinosaur. You do not need to choose any waffle or shove it on an acquaintance. As you put ulyukaev and he seems day about the fact that the bottom has not yet reached broadcast. ulyukaev as an example is not professionalism cited if that.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 48
      +6
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      Gorbachev always said that

      Gorbachev spoke all the time, and they laughed at him:

      Something is not heard laughing at the talkativeness of today's authorities. Their chatter is perceived as a mockery ...
  19. GABALIS
    GABALIS April 26 2018 19: 18
    0
    Dear, why are we different, what are we waiting for, or are all armless and legless?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 51
      +5
      Do you suggest doing more to take more? belay
      fool stop They work for nothing either for inspiration or for an idea ... wassat What is your idea? I see that it is - "And de I am?" belay
  20. RedKors1953
    RedKors1953 April 26 2018 19: 18
    +2
    The problem must be addressed comprehensively. From the tower to the school and not by calls, but by deeds.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 19: 52
      +5
      The problem is solved simply:
      FROM EVERYTHING ON ABILITY, EVERYONE ON LABOR !!!
      1. RedKors1953
        RedKors1953 April 26 2018 20: 22
        0
        ROSS 42 In a way it was: EVERYONE FOR ABILITY, EVERYONE FOR LABOR!
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 27 2018 05: 23
          +2
          Quote: RedKors1953
          ... It was like that:

          I don’t know what is written in your family, but Stalin had this:
          1. RedKors1953
            RedKors1953 April 27 2018 13: 44
            0
            Everything is correctly visible getting old. Thanks for the help.
  21. Curious
    Curious April 26 2018 19: 20
    +5
    "The President of Russia addressed the XI Congress of Russian Rectors at the Peter the Great Polytechnic Institute in St. Petersburg."
    Did you watch a film about “no analogs in the world” achievements in higher education?
    1. RedKors1953
      RedKors1953 April 26 2018 20: 25
      +2
      Victor. They said there would be no kina, the caster was ill.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 27 2018 05: 27
      +3
      Quote: Curious
      Did you watch a film about “no analogs in the world” achievements in higher education?

      They wanted to ... what Yes, only "anal" found, did not find analogues ... request How can you make a film about achievements in higher education if the education itself at all stages receives a predetermined price, and its "height" is measured by the thickness of the wallet.
  22. zyzx
    zyzx April 26 2018 19: 29
    +7
    What is such a breakthrough? Education who has been falling apart for 30 years? Who introduced the exam?
  23. APASUS
    APASUS April 26 2018 19: 31
    +2
    I have big doubts, what has changed during this time?
    The development of science, discoveries in the field, and when specifically it will be possible to implement what was invented. When the state will turn to face the manufacturer and innovator. Approaches have not changed
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 27 2018 05: 32
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      I have big doubts, what has changed during this time?

      What has changed during this time? Yes, you remember how Putin sounded at the beginning of the term:
      We will pursue terrorists everywhere. At the airport - at the airport. So, you’ll excuse me, we’ll catch in the toilet, and we will kill them in the toilet, in the end. Everything, the question is closed completely.

      Now these words read like this:
      We will pursue terrorists as far as possible. At the airport - at the airport. So, you’ll excuse me, we’ll catch in the toilet, we will give the opportunity to go down the corridor, in the end. Everything, the question is closed completely, until the sanctions are lifted ... belay
  24. gridasov
    gridasov April 26 2018 19: 37
    +2
    Humanity has quietly passed into the era of complexity. Therefore, we need to understand what a breakthrough is in a new way. I believe that few people understand this.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 26 2018 19: 40
      +2
      Quote: gridasov
      I believe that few people understand this.

      You, my dear, are directly asking for the same company (or ward) with Andryushka who is calling Shironov ....
      1. gridasov
        gridasov April 26 2018 19: 58
        +4
        Now many are already beginning to understand that analytical methods of working with information cannot be based on the search for individual and particular solutions. Analysis is the construction of algorithms linking the past, present and future together. So please tell me what is a scientific breakthrough? In the search for methods of analysis of complex and highly dynamic processes or in the solution and search for a single panacea. Therefore, do not be silly for simpletons, but to send to the wards this is the lot of those
        1. Irokez
          Irokez April 26 2018 23: 28
          0
          Quote: gridasov
          Analysis is the construction of algorithms linking the past, present and future together.

          Then you respected hit the mark. It is a pity that the majority thinks of small towns without seeing the global. The past and the present very much influence the future because only they are the basis for the future. Rewriting history is one of the ways to influence the future, taking consciousness and purpose away from the true and the intended.
          If the vector of direction in development from the past to the present and the plan of the future is lost, then all the people (country) are defeated.
  25. Shinbet
    Shinbet April 26 2018 19: 52
    +6
    cry again? But what about “squeezing” the loot from the aligarchs and distributing them to the people in order to show interest in development?
    Judging by the statistics, this year 3 times more young people who graduated from universities and institutes left the country than last year. Very sad.
    Somehow my manager said: "you - Russians somehow think differently." Well, yes - we think better, because the USSR school was very good. We are not “horses” from China with shutters. But we need a law so that everyone would be held accountable equally. And here this is where the biggest problem begins, which is why young people shy away.
    By the way, this is why the Pentagon created intihacker groups only from Russian emigrants. At the Pentagon, even though "p @@ dos" are sitting, there is much to learn.
    I would start to change something from the top. And then look and the lower classes will become more interesting to live ..
    1. The comment was deleted.
  26. poplar in Kiev
    poplar in Kiev April 26 2018 19: 53
    +9
    Putin talks a lot. Most often, after his words, the opposite is true. Most likely, young scientists have eaten grants and crap presented as a super weapon.
    We have Chubais like this - I’ve thought so much that there’s no nichrome
  27. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 26 2018 20: 10
    +5
    An example from personal life. I work (for the present ...) in one oooooooo high-tech company. We are world leaders in our field. We do science and technology (at the highest level) inside ourselves !! Almost closed loop. Not without problems, of course, but nonetheless ... There would be a desire. Russians can do anything.
    1. RedKors1953
      RedKors1953 April 26 2018 20: 41
      0
      Angry partisans. If the desire yes coincided with the possibilities then YES.
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan April 26 2018 20: 48
        +3
        Quote: RedKors1953
        If the desire yes coincided with the possibilities

        As a rule, the “opportunities” are simply political will, that is, the ability of the owners of one or another high-tech asset to step over the indefatigable desire for immediate enrichment and redirect resources to development. The same goes for the country as a whole. With one exception: if a private owner risks a certain amount, then a country risks the same amount only with a factor of 10 to the sixth power. In rubles, of course ...
  28. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 26 2018 20: 16
    +2
    While the rectors will distribute the money that the state gives, teachers will receive crumbs. When a scientist, a teacher receives 25-30 thousand, and this with a degree and the rank of others is even less. And the income of the rectors and those close to them is many times more. There will be nothing because a poor scientist will not really work and teach, and those who share money cannot and will not work. Therefore, they canceled the tariff schedule so that the money goes to the elect, while the rest as beggars remain.
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan April 26 2018 20: 34
      +3
      Quote: tank64rus
      a poor scientist will not really work

      Well ... I have not seen beggar scientists for a long time. yes The young scientist does not work primarily for salaries, but for his NAME! There is such a maxim in science: "First you work for your NAME, and then the NAME works for you!" and money doesn’t solve everything here. Little of. There are really a lot of young people "stung" by science! Those are generally ready for some time to work purely for food ...
      That's how to manage this community competently - this is really a big problem: everyone is smart there ... sad
      Yes. And the "scientist" payment does not guarantee anything. Always in science there is a significant stratum of people who have mastered the terminology and eloquence + intrigue, but are completely not adapted to this scientific work. And the State, having bought their speech, will regularly merge billions of rubles into the toilet ...
      1. gridasov
        gridasov April 26 2018 21: 49
        0
        But you need to distinguish between scientists who make breakthroughs and those scientists who master and bring previously made discoveries. And now the conversation is about breakthrough ideas and solutions. Therefore, geniuses are outcasts who see the world with their own eyes and mind. But they see the world more realistically, and not by mass consciousness.
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan April 26 2018 22: 09
          +5
          Gridasov! Fight under the bench! am And read the Kikoyin brothers physics textbook there. And then get out and blather. wink By the way. Abram Konstantinovich Kikoin conducted a laboratory workshop in nuclear physics with us. wink
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 26 2018 22: 19
            +1
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Gridasov! Fight under the bench!

            Quote: monday starts on saturday
            ... And he will begin to bite, so you must grate him in tinsel, do not be shy. Se la vie ...
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan April 26 2018 22: 24
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And he will start to bite, so you must grate him, do not be shy. Se la vie ...

              laughing
              good
              drinks
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 26 2018 22: 25
                0
                Well, they’re cadavres, well ... and with their brother only this way, and nothing else laughing
                1. evil partisan
                  evil partisan April 26 2018 22: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  cadavers

                  Unsatisfied gastrointestinal? what
                  Cadaver, a Latin corpse ... yes
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 26 2018 22: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                    Cadaver in latin corpse so

                    Well, ham munkuls then. Able to bounce and sleep. In the elevator belay
  29. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 April 26 2018 20: 23
    +4
    It was 2018, and he decided to ask.
  30. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher April 26 2018 20: 30
    +4
    Putin called for a scientific breakthrough

    Like April 1st ... And who will make the scientific breakthrough? Lawyers and financiers with marketers?
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan April 26 2018 21: 52
      +4
      Quote: Puncher
      And who will make the scientific breakthrough? Lawyers and financiers with marketers?

      Colleague. hi Last year, Inoprom-2017 was held in our city. I report. Ours can do everything: from software to machining centers. yes Moreover: in our city it turns out 2 firms produce machining centers! One of them is purely licensed (Japanese), and the second is purely Russian!
  31. mark_rod
    mark_rod April 26 2018 20: 40
    +1
    Awoke! And 18 years have not seen that behind in all respects?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 26 2018 23: 54
      0
      "And 18 years have not seen that behind in all respects?" - What is it for?
  32. Karabin
    Karabin April 26 2018 21: 20
    +9
    After years of calling for curbing gas prices
    a cycle of many-year-old calls begins to elevate science.
    Retrospective of Putin's calls for housing and utilities tariffs and anti-corruption in the public domain. According to sources of untrustworthy, the publication of the book "Calls of the Guarantor" is being prepared wink
    1. Sergey ippon
      Sergey ippon April 26 2018 21: 49
      +1
      Sedna refuel, and a solarium under 42 rubles ...
      kapets pancake - everything means more expensive and bread and milk, goods, sorry for the simple people.
  33. w70
    w70 April 26 2018 21: 31
    +2
    When you flippers glue a terrible dog!
  34. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 26 2018 21: 40
    +2
    Quote: w70
    When you flippers glue a terrible dog!

    You are not a dog young man.
    Mutant definitely.
  35. Sergey ippon
    Sergey ippon April 26 2018 21: 47
    +4
    damn blah blah
    and institutes close, lose their licenses as unnecessary.
    even agricultural Ivanovo (mechanics, agronomists, veterinarians and livestock specialists) covered up, but why is it really .....
  36. d1975
    d1975 April 26 2018 22: 02
    +3
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    In what areas have they bypassed us? In an atom? In microchips? In aircraft engines?

    In the irons and their prices! laughing
  37. Million
    Million April 26 2018 22: 23
    +6
    There will be no breakthrough. The education system is almost destroyed
  38. Samara_63
    Samara_63 April 26 2018 22: 32
    +3
    Without money, calls for nothing ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 27 2018 00: 01
      0
      This year, 664 billion rubles will be allocated for education and science - a sufficient amount.
  39. earloop
    earloop April 26 2018 23: 53
    0
    The President addressed the rectors of numerous Russian institutes, most of which by their status should understand what the state requires. After such a reminder, it will be possible to judge the fate of people involved in the "rector's craft" in Russian institutions and the state’s benefits to these institutions themselves.
    Recently, a "tribe of scientists - multi-station workers" of a liberal sense, for example, "a physicist-lawyer", has appeared on TV programs.
  40. alex3075
    alex3075 April 26 2018 23: 54
    +1
    Old academicians, professors to ask to move. The young are more energetic, more than enough insolence, they think outside the box. Understand each other in half-slang. Provide a salary, office apartment. And then demand a breakthrough.
  41. Moskovit
    Moskovit April 27 2018 00: 10
    0
    I would like to see, besides lamenting that everything is bad and pipe dreams about the USSR, a sober and rational plan for the development of modern Russian scientific thought appears. If we do not have enough of our own developments, let us copy other people's samples as Chinese and Koreans, and then we will go out on our own. Invite foreigners. Peter the Great did not shy away from this and Russia was able to make a technological leap.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 April 27 2018 15: 39
      +1
      That is, do you agree that the oligarchy of the Russian Federation has cut off the excellent system of science and education of the USSR and it is necessary to start all over again?
  42. militia2
    militia2 April 27 2018 00: 22
    +3
    Was the other day on excursions, they showed us an imported device. How much does it cost - I won’t say, anyway, no one will believe. (How many of our guys who work on it receive, I will not speak either). He sees, for example, the structure of the protein. You can, in particular, create new drugs. On the wall of the laboratory Periodic table of elements in English, mentions in the name of D.I. Mendeleev is not. He asked: "A lot of such devices with us." Answer: "Three years ago they bought, he was the only one in Russia. Then the sellers told us that China bought a hundred of these." The question now: Who will create a new medicine (or a new bio-weapon) faster? We or they? The answer is clear to me. Now another question: What to do? It’s time to have already shunned and turned. To each! And not just Putin! I think you can start, for example, with the following. At night, not the Internet, but Pushkin's pages of twenty, better together with the children (grandchildren). At the weekend, since there is little strength left, try to do exercises, to buy a wife and arrange a holiday to stash flowers. At work, praise aloud bosses, colleagues and subordinates without measure for any slightest success and enjoy it. Well, isn't that a breakthrough? Someone will probably say, well, what does science have to do with improving the quality of higher education? And despite the fact that with what we have left now, we don’t need to see any goal that Putin is trying to say about. And if you don’t change anything in yourself, you will never see it again!
  43. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 27 2018 00: 23
    0
    "Not single missiles. Putin called for a scientific breakthrough" In which area: electronics and computers - in Russia have been working on AI, software and microprocessors for many years, the nuclear industry - new nuclear reactors, participation in the development of a thermonuclear reactor, engine building and turbine building - new Euro 6,7 engines; electric engines, pulsed detonation, electric and scramjet engines, rocket science - DRD, NARD, plasma engines, materials science VIAM - new composite and metamaterials, new alloys, machine tool industry - 3D printing processing tools with increased productivity, radar, communications - photonic Radar, optical instrumentation, heavy engineering, medical instrumentation - all these areas are developing rapidly in Russia.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov April 27 2018 12: 15
      +1
      Do not disgrace! Any literate person understands that this is almost stamping on the spot. After all, Putin is talking about a breakthrough because a new scientific basis is needed in the analysis of highly dynamic and capacious processes. Do you really need to be so blind that you don’t understand that all modern mathematics is not capable of solving the problems of analysis. It is statistical in that it is only capable of solving particular problems. But she is not capable of simultaneously solving many interrelated tasks. How much can we say that no equations and modern methods are capable of constructing coordinated mathematical processes that would correspond to realities. The very concept of speed, temperature is a huge brake on the development of an understanding of the essence of physical phenomena. Speed ​​for complex processes ceases to be a criterion. Capacious fractal mathematical laws begin to work. Temperature is a derivative of magnetic force interactions and, again, are systemic and spatial, rather than linear. Therefore, just don’t have to lie to yourself and think that it will be possible to squeeze something out of the detonation or ion engine sometime if you do not understand the essence and basis of the physical processes and be able to analyze what is happening. And it’s already good that there are people who understand what a breakthrough is and what is the essence of this concept.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 27 2018 19: 09
        0
        Listen, you are the "Scientific basis" of pseudoscientific philosophies - you have cut off the engine with WARP.
  44. The comment was deleted.
  45. Shinbet
    Shinbet April 27 2018 05: 57
    +1
    Putin called for a scientific breakthrough, say? .. well, well ..
    Due to the FSB prosecution, the prize-winner of the All-Russian Chemistry Olympiad committed suicide
    In the suburbs brought to life 17-year-old winner of the All-Russian Olympiad in chemistry. According to Echo of Moscow, the tragedy occurred after the FSB officers visited his home. In a suicide note, the young man wrote that "the state does not need gifted people," and that people like him are "stifled with checks."

    The young man, whose name is not called, was the winner of numerous scientific competitions. According to the radio station, in his apartment he created a mini-laboratory, where he conducted various experiments.
    Neighbors reported to the law enforcement agencies on a talented chemist. Having visited him, the FSB investigators took a non-disclosure subscription from a teenager and his parents.
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit April 27 2018 07: 08
      0
      Can you imagine what a chemical minilab is? I would not want to have such a neighbor close by. Well done, the FSB came and checked what was going on there in flasks and retorts. And why the young man suddenly committed suicide - this is generally a big question.
      Not once had communication with different bodies, in a different form, but there was no thought to commit suicide.
  46. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 27 2018 06: 28
    +1
    Quote: ShinBet
    Putin called for a scientific breakthrough, say? .. well, well ..
    Due to the FSB prosecution, the prize-winner of the All-Russian Chemistry Olympiad committed suicide
    In the suburbs brought to life 17-year-old winner of the All-Russian Olympiad in chemistry. According to Echo of Moscow, the tragedy occurred after the FSB officers visited his home. In a suicide note, the young man wrote that "the state does not need gifted people," and that people like him are "stifled with checks."

    The young man, whose name is not called, was the winner of numerous scientific competitions. According to the radio station, in his apartment he created a mini-laboratory, where he conducted various experiments.
    Neighbors reported to the law enforcement agencies on a talented chemist. Having visited him, the FSB investigators took a non-disclosure subscription from a teenager and his parents.

    Echo of Moscow .....
    We survived totalitarianism.
    We survived the chaos of the 90s.
    We can’t fill up from the high rostrum or from mongrels paid in our ears.
    We know the pros and cons.
    Personally, I never voted for Putin.
    However, I can unequivocally confirm that the vast majority of voters actually vote for him.
    And old grandparents do not vote for the Communists but for Putin.
    And the echo of Moscow is the most secure radio.
    On the regional route where there is no reliable reception of other radio stations, Moscow’s echo broadcasts perfectly.
    Sometimes I even listen to something.
    And it’s not for me, if you are an Israeli citizen, to explain what security is,
    Why do we need checks.
    There have already received a fire and dozens of dead.
    Because one politician acting today declared.
    -Stop nightmare business!
    As a result, the abolition of inspections and general non-compliance with regulatory legislation.
    ...
    And yes.
    Our Crimea!
  47. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine April 27 2018 06: 58
    +3
    Something I got confused ...
    The guarantor calls for a breakthrough in science, and his faithful prime minister says that if teachers lack salaries, then let them do business ...
    What is the truth, Brother?
  48. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 27 2018 08: 16
    +1
    Hire,
    Quote: Hire
    Neither mind nor logic. You are a typical tolerast. Did I tell you that already? I don’t understand why you are trying to deny it. It seems that in your environment today it is not accepted ...

    laughing Well, definitely a naughty man! Even tolerant environment knows thoroughly.
  49. l7yzo
    l7yzo April 27 2018 08: 39
    0
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    A technological breakthrough is primarily people.
    Smart, bold, technologically literate. People are able to quickly and efficiently solve breakthrough tasks.
    In Russia, I am sure there are such people.
    But donkeys lead them.
    Napoleon and Peter 1 singled out talented people, despite the estates, and set them tasks.
    And Russia is moving towards a class society. And this is a disaster.


    I would say that it’s not class, but party-proletarian. What important positions are not allowed to people from the side. These are usually children / nephews / grandchildren, etc. former leaders of the Communist Party, in which moreover, the collapse of the Soviets began and ended. How would I say they have a lot of experience breaking down, but building is the question? The arboreal arboreal does not count.


    And it was also sad to read the comments - many insults turn to personalities. And just like that.
  50. solovald
    solovald April 27 2018 09: 12
    +1
    "Halva, halva, halva ..." - it has become sweeter, huh?