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What will the loss of Armenia mean for Russia?

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Recent events in Armenia can not fail to attract attention. The recent coup in Yerevan painfully resembles the events on Maidan 4 a year ago, because almost the main slogan of the Protestants was rethinking relations with Russia. And although nothing concrete was proposed, the fact of such statements indicates who is the initiator of these events.


It should be understood that, in contrast to the same Ukraine, Armenia is part of the EEU and the CSTO. Moreover, the country has a Russian military base. And Moscow has not many such allies.

However, for Armenia, our country plays a huge role. Russia is the main trading partner of Yerevan. Almost 80% of total Armenian exports target the Russian market. In addition, it is we who ensure the energy security of Armenia. Along with this, we should not forget about the Karabakh conflict: having lost the support of Moscow, Yerevan risks losing this region.

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  1. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin April 26 2018 17: 13
    +10
    If the Maydan take power, then for starters, another million Armenians will move to Russia within a year. And those who did not leave will be milled in Karabakh. First, the army, and then all in a row, indiscriminately, until a single living Armenian remains in Karabakh and its environs.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus April 26 2018 20: 00
      0
      everything flows - everything changes-- both stones and thoughts (according to the tree) - let them search where deeper

      and use against Iran - they can be thrown into the fire

      both Azerbaijan and Armenians will tear money for their lives.
      can we do that?
      1. Vard
        Vard April 27 2018 08: 05
        +15
        What for Russia ... but nothing ... fewer parasites ... but for Armenia ... There was such a country ...
        1. Yak28
          Yak28 April 27 2018 21: 03
          +10
          If it were less, after the collapse of the USSR, many republics of the union gained independence and, by slushing Russia, simultaneously expelling Russians, still live at the expense of Russia and weigh dead goods on their necks. Why does Russia provide jobs for citizens of anti-Russian-minded republics? Why does Russia buy consumer goods? of these republics and keeps their economy afloat? It’s no secret that most of the crimes in Russia are committed not by Russia, but by the post-Soviet republics request
          1. Seal
            Seal April 28 2018 10: 44
            +9
            There is one peculiarity regarding the citizens of Armenia and Georgia. So, unlike all the other "former fraternal union republics", which, frankly, were conquered by our ancestors, the Armenians and Georgians themselves tearfully requested to be part of Russia. And now over 75% of the so-called "thieves in law" are Georgians (all Georgian tribes), Armenians (and the Aisors and Kurds who joined them).
            By the way, both Armenia and Georgia refused to hold a referendum on the preservation of the USSR on their territory (along with the Baltic and Moldavia).
            1. Alexey Ivanov_2
              Alexey Ivanov_2 April 28 2018 21: 03
              +7
              I do not agree with only one, about the other republics that were conquered. The territories where Ukraine and Belarus are located in which war and where did Russia conquer? When did Rosmsya conquer the Baltic states? Call me the Russ-Estonian, Russian-Latvian war? Here, Russia fought with Lithuania for a very long time. this is not necessary to hide. When the Baltic states became part of Russia, there were no estonias and latvians at all! Just as there was no Kazakhstan. Moldavia. uzbekistan. Kyrgyzstan and other Turkmenistan. These states arose only as part of the USSR
              1. Abel
                Abel 1 May 2018 17: 04
                +3
                Let's delve into the story. Bogdan Khmelnitsky and other-other requested in Russia, persecuted and destroyed by Poles. The concept of "Ukraine" as a state entity generally appeared only after 1917 and grew thanks to Stalin. There were no wars with Estonia and Latvia. Territories with the population were purchased. And still have not redeemed. Central Asia also from Soviet times
            2. Irena_2
              Irena_2 2 May 2018 08: 53
              +1
              In those days, the “conquest” was universally recognized as a sufficient basis for expanding the territory of the “conqueror.” The territories from the Volga region and the Far East did not have statehood at all. The territory of Russia was formed on the principles of a federal form of state structure (such as, for example, Germany). Russia has "dropped the excess mass of territories" and is currently in a stable national condition - 80% of the Russian population, not differing from many countries of the world in this indicator.
      2. Orca
        Orca April 28 2018 15: 59
        0
        Strong! Smoke something very sticky, Colonel. )))
  2. Horst78
    Horst78 April 26 2018 18: 26
    +22
    And what is Armenia for us? The southern direction does not cover. Between Us and them a pillow from the "friends" of Georgia and Azerbaijan. Our troops are there, as if in a "cauldron". The Armenians themselves are not developing their homeland, but have settled down in the south of Russia and in Moscow. Fight for them because are they "pro-Orthodox"? Thank you. We have enough funerals. Tell the Russian Empire defended them, so let the tsars be responsible for this.
    1. Homeland
      Homeland April 26 2018 19: 04
      +8
      Actually, the Armenians are not Orthodox.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 April 26 2018 20: 03
        +7
        Quote: Homeland
        Actually, the Armenians are not Orthodox.

        In fact, the full name of the Armenian Apostolic Church is "The One Holy Ecumenical Apostolic Orthodox Armenian Church".
        1. Homeland
          Homeland April 26 2018 23: 09
          +7
          Dym71, do not invent. It is called the “Armenian Apostolic Church”. Not Orthodox. Georgians are Orthodox, but Armenians are not.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 April 27 2018 00: 12
            +4
            Quote: Homeland
            Dym71, do not invent.

            Offend, dear! No.
            Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Holy Church
            Հայ Առաքելական Ուղղափառ Սուրբ Եկեղեցի
            Hai Arakelakan Uhhapar Surb Ekekhetsi
            1. Khazarin
              Khazarin April 28 2018 21: 30
              +1
              The Greeks called themselves "Orthodox Christians", Russia called herself, before Nikon, Orthodox, and the Armenians are Orthodox? And they were 700 years older in Christ and did not seem to have carried out reformation! So their katalikos are still Orthodox Christians, Orthodox Georgians, and Orthodox Greeks, at Russia Orthodox!
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 April 29 2018 01: 13
                +1
                Please clearly state that you, from me, a simple layman, need recourse
          2. Alexey Ivanov_2
            Alexey Ivanov_2 6 May 2018 10: 03
            +1
            You are absolutely right. Armenians are naturally Christians. but not Orthodox. but not Catholics. Armenians have their own church, their head is the Catalikos of all Armenians. By the way. us. Orthodox ROC can pray in the Georgian church. but in Armenian it’s impossible!
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 April 26 2018 20: 15
        +1
        Quote: Homeland
        Actually, the Armenians are not Orthodox.

        Yeah, probably Buddhists or Krishnaites wassat wassat lol
      3. Rolex
        Rolex April 27 2018 00: 05
        +6
        Correctly! Heretic-Monophysite Armenians!

        The Armenian Church in its doctrine is quite far from the Russian Orthodox Church. Due to various historical circumstances, the Armenian bishops were not among the participants in the Fourth Ecumenical Council, held in Chalkidon in 451. As a result, the Armenian Church did not accept the Christological dogma adopted at this Council, which became the most important teaching principle of the Orthodox Church. The essence of the Chalcedonian dogma is that in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ all, the fullness of humanity and the fullness of the Divine nature are inseparably, indistinctly, invariably and inseparably united and the Lord Jesus Christ in the true sense is the God-man. The Armenian Church, along with some other churches, professes in the person of Jesus Christ the uniqueness of only the Divine Nature, believing that human nature was completely dissolved in it. The Orthodox Church defines this theological opinion as heresy, and does not have any Eucharistic communion with any of these churches.
        1. garnik
          garnik April 27 2018 08: 20
          +4

          a person speaks Russian. and knows a lot about religious movements.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 April 27 2018 11: 14
            +3
            Garnik, did you notice who explains here for Orthodoxy? They survived, Muslims explain to us, for our faith! Look, the theologians have been found!
            Uhhapar - from the words "uchiha" (correct) and "park" (glory) = Orthodox
            ps and this link is for "Homeland" (Novruz):
            - http://armenianchurch.ge/en
            - Look, dear, enlighten! There is no need to read there, just look at the main page carefully. laughing
            1. garnik
              garnik April 27 2018 11: 38
              +3
              Not a few non-Russian people of Russia are interested in a split between Armenia and Russia. But what is offensive is enough among Russians.
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 April 27 2018 11: 55
                0
                Quote: garnik
                But what a shame such is enough among the Russians.

                You know, dear, I would have kicked your insolent oligarchs from Russia with a kick in the ass along with the money stolen from Armenia, and a simple Armenian hard worker! And it doesn’t cause anything but respect for me, so I’m sure that we will not let anyone oppress the Armenians and never, even if you go to Europe. yes
                1. garnik
                  garnik April 27 2018 14: 00
                  0
                  There are different oligarchs. There are those who, during the time of the collapse, snatched the state’s raw materials for nothing.
                  And there are those who started from scratch or invested in production. They probably heard about Galitsky. They took it, I think they’ll squeeze it out of the stadium. But what does it mean not to have a roof in the USA or in Israel.
                  Thanks for the positive.
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 April 28 2018 22: 36
                    +1
                    garnik (Garnik) And why did the Armenians hide under the Georgian flag? I swear by his mom, we will pretend that we don’t understand why repeat Oh, yes, goodbye! laughing
                  2. lis-ik
                    lis-ik April 29 2018 14: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: garnik
                    There are different oligarchs. There are those who, during the time of the collapse, snatched the state’s raw materials for nothing.
                    And there are those who started from scratch or invested in production. They probably heard about Galitsky. They took it, I think they’ll squeeze it out of the stadium. But what does it mean not to have a roof in the USA or in Israel.
                    Thanks for the positive.

                    Of course, the stadium will be taken away, and that’s all, because the X5 retail was not created for this, although even now their business is not important, a 36% drop in profits was brought about by the people!
                    1. garnik
                      garnik April 29 2018 20: 55
                      0
                      Sorry for Galitsky. A person whom is respected in the Krasnodar Territory, who wanted to prove that it is not necessary to study in London to reach heights. The daughter entered a national university, KubSU. And how many he built sports arenas. One stadium is worth it.
                      To stay in business, you have to pay tithing to a well-known bank.
              2. Alexey Ivanov_2
                Alexey Ivanov_2 6 May 2018 10: 23
                +1
                I don’t think that Armenians should make a sacrifice of themselves! Or did you forget about the explosion in the subway and on the streets of Moscow in 1977, committed by Armenian nationalists. And how many dozens of soldiers of the Soviet Army were killed in "free" Armenia in the late 80s - 90s? How did the Armenians drive Russians and people of other nationalities from Armenia at that time !?
                And, in the end, what is the use of Russia from Armenia?
            2. Rolex
              Rolex April 28 2018 11: 33
              0
              Andrei, I'm an agnostic, and I have nothing to do with any faith. And your your DreFFne Armenian link "armenianchurch", generally atas. True in the last resort. )))))))
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 April 28 2018 12: 08
                +3
                Quote: Rolex
                Andryushka, then I'm an agnostic

                Khasanchik, dear, you are a kafir provocateur, not an agnostic! yes
                Quote: Rolex
                And your your DreFFne Armenian link "armenianchurch", generally atas.

                I am Russian, baptized in the Tula Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church MP, the temple of the Twelve Apostles. smile
                Quote: Rolex
                and have nothing to do with any faith.

                Inshalla!
          2. Seal
            Seal April 28 2018 10: 47
            +2
            Your religious connoisseur still does not have a beard. lol
            Look here:


          3. Rolex
            Rolex April 28 2018 11: 32
            0


            drinks Don't be nervous, ahper! )))
            1. garnik
              garnik April 28 2018 12: 59
              +2
              Ha Ha. When you give links do you read or view them?
              Even the fact that the priest pronounces the Armenian-Gregorian faith, you can not look further. I didn’t hear anything special. No one denies the difference between the Armenian and Russian churches. And the fact that the Armenian Apostolic Church says a lot about it. If you read your link from an Armenian blogger, then everything falls into place.
        2. genisis
          genisis April 28 2018 17: 03
          +2
          Damn, how many of you have bred)))
          Armenians are myaphysites! The Armenian Apostolic Church anathematized the heresy of Monophysitism, as did the heresy of the Nestorians. And if someone shared the Greek version of Christianity, then let him call himself Greek.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin April 27 2018 13: 40
      +5
      Quote: Horst78
      And what is Armenia for us? The southern direction does not cover. Between Us and them a pillow from the "friends" of Georgia and Azerbaijan. Our troops are there, as if in a "cauldron". The Armenians themselves are not developing their homeland, but have settled down in the south of Russia and in Moscow. Fight for them because are they "pro-Orthodox"? Thank you. We have enough funerals. Tell the Russian Empire defended them, so let the tsars be responsible for this.

      Armenia is nothing pleasant for us. A suitcase without a pen. Azerbaijan is much more necessary for us.
      Like in that toast: “I have a desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity. I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire”
      But there are two BUT.
      1. Azerbaijan is needed, but there is no such rope that could tightly tie Azerbaijan to Russia.
      2. There is such a rope with Armenia, but apart from hemorrhoids, we won’t earn anything from such a connection. But if we leave and leave, the hemorrhoids will worsen - the United States will immediately come to our place with its obligatory range of unsolicited services.
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 26 2018 18: 48
    +9
    What will the loss of Armenia mean for Russia?
    Adler is empty good laughingHooray!!!!!!!!! fellow
    1. aleks.29ru
      aleks.29ru April 26 2018 19: 45
      0
      If the rest do not get over. Two thousand from the Amerz embassy are doing their job.
    2. garnik
      garnik April 27 2018 08: 30
      +6
      What is your joy? A holy place does not happen empty. Turks will arrive with their minarets, then there will be joy full of pants.
      Learn Turkish, judging by brotherly relations, it will be useful to you.
      Read the history of the settlement.
      1. Fisher martin
        Fisher martin April 27 2018 09: 42
        +1
        Yes? And who will let them come there?
        1. garnik
          garnik April 27 2018 11: 51
          0
          Yes? And who will let them come there?

          No one will ask you. Or you were in favor of resuming supplies of plastic tomatoes after the downing of our plane.
          Adjara is already under their control. The Georgians do not favor the Turks either, but we have enough corrupt officials.
          1. Rolex
            Rolex April 28 2018 12: 01
            0
            "You were for resuming supplies of plastic tomatoes" (C) laughing
            No, what are you, he is for the resumption of the supply of new Ashots who will occupy the already almost occupied South of Russia.
            By the way, writing about Adjara, you reminded me of your traditionally Armenian kleptomanic claims against Georgian Javakhetia. But tell me, how are you doing there, on the Georgian front? Started to blow up, kill, or while you wait?
            1. garnik
              garnik April 28 2018 13: 13
              +1
              You will deal with your problems. Read about the clan of the princes Zakaryan, who owned Armenian lands, but as part of the Georgian kingdom. Interesting, and about Hasan Jalalyan, ruler Khachen, there is information. Let me remind you that your people attribute it because of a name to themselves.
              And your ancestors annexed part of the territory of Georgia and Armenia with the help of the Bolsheviks.
              1. Rolex
                Rolex April 28 2018 13: 37
                +1
                Yeah, Garnik Jan, yes! laughing The whole planet was Armenian, and the rest simply annexed the territories of the Armenians.

                - It was the Armenians who dug up the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean, after which they flooded Lemuria, Atlantis and MU there, since they made them a lot of competition! I think no one will object to this .....
                - Armenians built Stonehenge and built the pyramids in Egypt!
                - Armenians invented all the alphabets of the world and the Phaistos disc.
                - Armenians built Mount Kailash in Tibet. Feel the harmony of Kailash and Ararat?
                - Armenians own the coin of the Scythian king Farzoy
                -the Armenians keep all the secrets of Shambhala, because before Sumer and the Hyksos, the Armenians were Tibetan-Aryans, even Hitler himself confirmed when he visited the office of the Yerevan Shipping Company !!!!!!!!
                I think it’s time to create an international committee to exalt Armenians and shoot all those who do not agree with this. Well, how do you like the idea?
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 27 2018 19: 22
        +1
        garnik (garnik)
        What is your joy? A holy place does not happen empty. Turks will arrive with their minarets, then there will be joy full of pants.
        What’s your business? Something the Turks in Sochi somehow came across all adequate. They did not throw money at it. Unlike some bully
        1. garnik
          garnik April 27 2018 20: 27
          +3
          What’s your business? Something the Turks in Sochi somehow came across all adequate. They didn’t throw money. Unlike some bully

          The same as yours. When there will also be many Turks, you will meet your favorite scammers, but this is nothing, they will ignore you.,
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 April 27 2018 22: 39
            +4
            garnik (Garnik) Do you even know how to live at home? Or just neighbors hang around the history of settlements tell stories? You try to justify everything in your neighbors' favor. Learn how to live in yourself. And then wake up in an alien country for you to try to educate the native people. It’s disgusting to read this nonsense. They don’t go to someone’s monastery with their charter. guests. And all your problems there, we care less. Reap what you yourself did in the late 80s and all 90 e. And whitewash about the friendship of peoples on your coat of arms beat.
      3. Rolex
        Rolex April 28 2018 11: 48
        +3
        laughing Typically Armenian opinion. ))) What are you miserable and empty. Turks will come with minarets ....... Bugagagagagaga))) Yeah, schA!

        Are you strangled by a toad that Russia and Turkey are drawing closer? Or does the inferiority complex haunt you? So what? For the sake of Armenians and impotent Armenia, should Russia go against its policies and state interests? Or do you think that the vector of Russian foreign policy should be established by the Armenians?
        As for the history of the settlement ....... better you read about the creeping Armenization of southern Russia. Read the article "Kuban Karabakh" published on the portal "Southern Federal" and many other SOS-s of Russian society.
        1. garnik
          garnik April 28 2018 13: 23
          +2
          I respect Peter 1. His famous words must be carved in gold at the entrance to the Kremlin. The friendship between Russia and Turkey can dream of a Turk and a Russian suicide.
          You will be surprised, but there was an Armenian region in the Kuban. But it did not expand to the republic. winked And what kind of Armenization can we talk about.
          For money and black caviar, every m.raz that you want to write. Your smiths is one of them.
          1. Rolex
            Rolex April 28 2018 17: 53
            +1
            Gee! laughing I was not even surprised that there was an Armenian region in the Kuban. laughing It is surprising that you have not yet claimed that Osaka is an ancient Armenian city, and Lee Kwan is a thoroughbred Armenian, and the Singapore miracle is not Singaporean at all, but Armenian. laughing
            For money and black caviar, every m.raz that you want to write.

            Yeah! In the days of the pan-Armenian lie, telling the truth is caviar, money, oil, bribery! laughing
            I respect Peter 1. His famous words must be carved in gold at the entrance to the Kremlin. The friendship between Russia and Turkey can dream of a Turk and a Russian suicide.


            Poor Peter then did not know about the Armenian terror against the viceroy of the Russian tsar in the Caucasus, the true patriot Prince Golitsyn, the assassination of the Russian emperor Alexander II, the assassination of vice-governor Elizavetpol (Ganja) of the province Andrei Andreev, the assassination of the Orthodox archpriest Vasilov in 1903 in Gyumri, terror against the Governor-General of Baku, Russified Georgian-Prince Mikhail Nakashidze, the murder of a provincial doctor and state adviser -Urazov, the assassination of General Magsud Alikhanov-Avarsky, the assassination of the head of the border guard- Lt. Col. Bykov, the murder of the district chief of Surmalinsky district, Lt. Colonel Boguslavsky, Captain Dudnikov, the assassination of the bailiffs Javakhov and Shumakevich, the assassination of the chairman of the Russian National Council -Ressler, the terrorist acts of the Armenians of 1977 in Moscow, the assassination of Lieutenant Colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Vladimir Blahotin, the terror against Viktor Polyanichko, about the killing of Russian soldiers by the Armenians at the head of the lieutenant om Shapovalov, about the attack of Armenians on Russian paratroopers led by Igor Yulpatov, about the assassination of the chairman of the State Duma’s defense committee, General Lev Rokhlin, who declassified the armenian gate, etc. etc.

            Peter also did not know that Russian border guards would stand on the Armenian borders and protect the peace of long-suffering Armenians, while those in Stavropol, Sochi and on the Internet would demonstrate their “steepness” and “fearlessness”. bully

            Poor Peter also could not know how the Armenians would abstain from voting in PACE on a resolution on depriving Russia of the right to vote. negative

            Etc!

            If Peter knew all this, he would write a lot of affectionate words about Armenians.
            1. garnik
              garnik April 28 2018 22: 08
              +1
              Mentioned at the expense of the area.

              The Armenian national region is a national region in the Krasnodar (in 1925-1934 - North Caucasian, in 1934-1937 Azov-Black Sea) Territory, which existed in 1925-1953.

              The district was formed on March 10, 1925 (Decree of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of April 12, 1926) in the territory inhabited mainly by Armenians. The village center was appointed the village of Elisavetpolskoye

              Do you want me to be like you and give a list of cases of murder of the Russian military by Azerbaijanis.? I think one thing is enough, the Shamkhor massacre of 1918. about 6000 Russian soldiers were returned who were returning from the front by the Caucasian Tatars i.e. you.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 April 30 2018 14: 10
                +2
                Quote: garnik
                Shamkhor massacre 1918 about 6000 Russian soldiers were returned who were returning from the front by the Caucasian Tatars i.e. you.

                stop This is a forbidden trick, countryman! Azerbaijanis are so kind and gentle, and you are so rude!
                Welcome hi
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik April 29 2018 14: 19
              +2
              Quote: Rolex
              Peter also did not know that Russian border guards would stand on the Armenian borders and protect the peace of long-suffering Armenians, while those in Stavropol, Sochi, on the Internet demonstrate their “coolness” and “fearlessness”

              They are also demonstrating in Moscow, to get at least the "fearless" Shmara Baghdosoryan, they already got it.
              1. garnik
                garnik April 29 2018 21: 06
                +1
                They are also demonstrating in Moscow, to get at least the "fearless" Shmara Baghdosoryan, they already got it.

                It didn’t occur to you why all sorts of things are shown on the media in Jan. And where are all the untouchables who drive according to the "rules" of the traffic police. She certainly is a fool that decided to go against the cops.
                Having warned, in case Brabus does not return a friend, she will publish compromising evidence.
    3. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 2 May 2018 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      What will the loss of Armenia mean for Russia?
      Adler will empty Hooray !!!!!!!!!

      Hmm .. don’t wait! lol They are at the door (kicked out), they will climb out the window! lol
  4. NG inform
    NG inform April 26 2018 20: 25
    0
    In Belarus it will be the same this year or next year.
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 April 26 2018 22: 53
      +4
      Question, for all these failures of the international policy of the Russian Federation should someone answer? The president, prime minister and foreign minister are responsible for the policy. All of them have been failing to lead for nearly 18 years, so they can award a sentence (and the order of the antihero of Russia!) For years of failed work and the loss of all friendly ties with all states and send them to an undeserved vacation on the southern coast of the Arctic Ocean to a cottage with personal guard and a barbed fence wires ....
      1. Doc-03
        Doc-03 April 26 2018 23: 11
        0
        Sharikov does not remind? "We choked them ..."
        Amerikosy got sick, they would have enough water and a slice of bread for 40 days, by the end of the post they would have learned to love everyone. A well-fed horse is not on foot!
        Vladimir Vladimirovich and hedgehog with him does what he should do. And there are enough temptations everywhere, I would have to sort out my "good".
      2. antivirus
        antivirus April 27 2018 09: 04
        0
        take it wider - INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD. FROM NUMBER AND QUALITY OF AUTO AND CHEESE, ROCKET CARRIERS AND RAZORS, PAN AND ARMED VEST.

        DEPENDS ON - FROM MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE + MACHINERY (MINISTER?)
      3. glasha3032
        glasha3032 April 28 2018 01: 06
        +4
        Those who are responsible for the failures of Russia's foreign policy will never be punished, for the President appoints the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and he controls him .... The level of work of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs is extremely low. Hence the failures everywhere. Example - Foreign Minister Lavrov learns quite by accident (!) From a journalist (!) At a press conference that Kazakhstan signed an agreement with the United States on granting a visa-free regime for US citizens without notifying the Russian Federation (!) ... Nonsense! Scandal! What did (or did not) the Ambassador of the Russian Federation to the Republic of Kazakhstan? Who is he? And our Ambassador to Kazakhstan, by his main specifics, is an Africanist, he spent his whole life as ambassador to several African countries, he was the Head of the Department of African Countries at the Russian Foreign Ministry ... He is a great specialist in African affairs, but, alas, in Asian affairs. .. He doesn’t even know the Kazakh language, but what is the Ambassador, it turns out that no one knows the Kazakh language in our embassy! And what about the different secretaries in After - where did they look? They were also unaware ... And who put the Africanist on the post of Ambassador to Kazakhstan? Foreign Minister ... It is ridiculous, of course, but it turns out that Orientalists Sinists and Japanese are sent to the African countries as ambassadors ... And so we live ....
  5. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 26 2018 21: 06
    +2
    Tell me the country where, after the coup, the people happily healed? Not only in the post-Soviet space, but in general. Where our “Western partners” visited and participated, devastation and poverty reign. Even the richest Libya is still in ruins and will remain so for a very long time. Far from poor Ukraine, something is not flourishing. We all perfectly understand that any coup in the former Soviet republics is directed primarily against Russia. And Armenia will also break into association with the geyropa, but I wonder what the poor Armenia hopes for? Can you offer something to the west? Does the example of Georgia tell you anything? The richest country has become)))) Beggar there (in the geyropa) is already missing from Asia and Africa, from Ukraine and Romania. One is a shame. When the Azerbaijanis and the Turks put you in the pose in which you stood before the advent of Russia, you will again run to ask for help. And to whom run?
    PS And I would remove our border guards, let the free Armenians defend their poor land.
    1. bald
      bald April 27 2018 02: 01
      +2
      At the expense of our border guards. If it does go according to the "ordinary" plan of the former republics, then they will be officially shown the way, like Serbia. Playing cards with a sharpie, if you do not become like, playing honestly, you will remain with your bare ass. Damn the consequences for all the former, but for themselves, and without pants ("partners"), Russia can fight.
  6. NF68
    NF68 April 26 2018 22: 21
    +1
    Nothing good will come of the coup in Armenia. And there are enough examples of this.
  7. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik April 26 2018 22: 55
    +9
    If tomorrow Yerevan orders our fighters in Gyumri to collect manat, the day after tomorrow Azerbaijan and Turkey will tear the Armenian soldiers to rags. Armenia will remain 1 on 1 with its problems. And judging by what I read and looked about Pashinyan, such a desire has a place to be if he takes the throne.
    Iran, too, will not be able to silently observe all this, since they are unlikely to want to have another pro-Western state at their side.
    Russia needs to look at all this exclusively with a cold head. Hundreds of thousands of refugees, in this case, let them run, anywhere, but not to Russia. Enough, fed already. Anyway, no thanks from anyone.
    The main thing is that the militant part of the Armenians should understand that the color revolutions have one bad tendency - the loss of land.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 27 2018 00: 04
      +2
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      Russia needs to look at all this exclusively with a cold head. Hundreds of thousands of refugees, in this case, let them run, anywhere, but not to Russia. Enough, fed already. Anyway, no thanks from anyone.

      It is true that they themselves will defend their homeland, the Russian Federation does not help traitors, it helps to bury them .... hi
    2. glasha3032
      glasha3032 April 28 2018 00: 51
      +1
      It’s good if Yerevan commands our fighters in Gyumri - “Go!” and everything will cost peacefully! Or they can go according to the Ukrainian scenario, they will shoot one of the Armenians in the crowd at the checkpoint and blame the Russians for this - and so it goes ...
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 28 2018 08: 03
        +1
        Quote: glasha3032
        It’s good if Yerevan commands our fighters in Gyumri - “Go!” and everything will cost peacefully! Or they can go according to the Ukrainian scenario, they will shoot one of the Armenians in the crowd at the checkpoint and blame the Russians for this - and so it goes ...

        They will not attack, they are members of the CSTO, an attack on a soldier will mean a declaration of war of the Russian Federation. And since there are not very friendly countries around them, they will have many problems .... hi
  8. Thompson
    Thompson April 27 2018 00: 00
    +1
    Quote: Siberian 1975
    Tell me the country where, after the coup, the people happily healed? Not only in the post-Soviet space, but in general. Where our “Western partners” visited and participated, devastation and poverty reign. Even the richest Libya is still in ruins and will remain so for a very long time. Far from poor Ukraine, something is not flourishing. We all perfectly understand that any coup in the former Soviet republics is directed primarily against Russia. And Armenia will also break into association with the geyropa, but I wonder what the poor Armenia hopes for? Can you offer something to the west? Does the example of Georgia tell you anything? The richest country has become)))) Beggar there (in the geyropa) is already missing from Asia and Africa, from Ukraine and Romania. One is a shame. When the Azerbaijanis and the Turks put you in the pose in which you stood before the advent of Russia, you will again run to ask for help. And to whom run?
    PS And I would remove our border guards, let the free Armenians defend their poor land.

    And they do not need to offer. Geolocation itself already has a reason. Georgia simply had no luck with South Ossetia and Abkhazia otherwise they would have long been admitted to NATO. The same will be with Armenia! BUT! This will not prevent the States and NATO from putting their bases there !!! And they don’t need more.
    And there are enough fools not only in Armenia. And they were found in Ukraine, and the Russians themselves were no better in the early 90s.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 27 2018 00: 26
      +3
      Quote: Thompson
      And they do not need to offer. Geolocation itself already has a reason. Georgia simply had no luck with South Ossetia and Abkhazia otherwise they would have long been admitted to NATO. The same will be with Armenia! BUT! This will not prevent the States and NATO from putting their bases there !!! And they don’t need more.
      And there are enough fools not only in Armenia. And they were found in Ukraine, and the Russians themselves were no better in the early 90s.

      What are you with these bases, let’s put it, now the weapon is already completely different and of a different power, it’s easier to say, do not care, one volley and no problems in the world. They have already said more than once, but they pressed us, but now we have nowhere to retreat and beat, we will certainly not look at the dimensions, in the military sense. Politically, there will be another colony and take off the hell, we are not to blame for the fact that they are so weak. If they cannot fight for themselves, our strength will not save, but only from their end draws. In an extreme case, we will divide the Armenians and everything will be fine .... yes
      1. glasha3032
        glasha3032 April 28 2018 00: 33
        0
        For a long time already, the USA has plans to put together a Georgia-Armenia block and create an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in the Caucasus. The one that they couldn’t do in Crimea ... Armenia is of key importance - from Armenia, the Americans can keep Russia, Turkey, Iran, put pressure on Azerbaijan and control our Central Asia .. Having the opportunity to put pressure on Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, the United States can calmly establish its fleet of purchased missile boats of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan and will drive our fleet across the Caspian Sea, and that’s typical, we Americans will not be able to do anything to them, for it will mean the outbreak of the Third World War .... So, the loss of Armenia for Russia in strategic and tactical terms is not so harmless.
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII April 28 2018 08: 24
          +1
          Quote: glasha3032
          For a long time already, the USA has plans to put together a Georgia-Armenia block and create an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in the Caucasus. The one that they couldn’t do in Crimea ... Armenia is of key importance - from Armenia, the Americans can keep Russia, Turkey, Iran, put pressure on Azerbaijan and control our Central Asia .. Having the opportunity to put pressure on Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, the United States can calmly establish its fleet of purchased missile boats of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan and will drive our fleet across the Caspian Sea, and that’s typical, we Americans will not be able to do anything to them, for it will mean the outbreak of the Third World War .... So, the loss of Armenia for Russia in strategic and tactical terms is not so harmless.

          If the country is strong inside, do not care how much it will be around the enemies and not so much the Russian Federation saw. These bases will not be able to attack the Russian Federation, they will be there like a scarecrow in the garden. You see, the Russian Federation can not help traitors, just bury Ukraine as an example. They would have helped Ukraine, and that they would have gotten the enemy in the rear (Trojan horse), so let them both understand it. Let me remind you that those who get between the Russian Federation and the United States get nothing good, only more problems. The friendship of the Russian Federation and the United States is the most dangerous weapon for third countries, the story is in your hands, it wasn’t good anywhere when the friendship of the Russian Federation and the United States came there. He knows how these two countries like to quarrel on other people's territory, and most importantly it always comes out the same thing, the collapse of a third country or complete destruction. In their place, you need to think carefully before embarking on the path of choice. hi
  9. gorenina91
    gorenina91 April 27 2018 03: 25
    +1
    -Russia needs to be prepared for the fact that a US military base will be deployed in Armenia ... -This will be the beginning of the creation of a military "NATO axis" ... - "Armenia -Kazakhstan-Kyrgyzstan" ... -And Russia can not oppose anything this ...
    -Russia has played too long in "fraternal loyal-friendly" relations with Kazakhstan ... and in infinitely long "victorious actions" in Syria ...
    -And here, right under my nose, Russia stopped solving its pressing issues ... -simply turned out to be unforgivably careless ... -The indecisive actions in relation to Ukraine made Russia sufficiently predictable and vulnerable to create new such “Ukraine” in the hands of Russian enemies Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and so on ...
    -And at the moment Russia has no choice but to make every effort to offer Armenia to become a part of Russia ... -On the one hand ... is completely absurd ... and on the other ... -Just there is no other way ...
    -I would like to make mistakes in my “forecasts” ... -but today there really is no other solution ... -may just start a kind of “chain reaction” ... and Russia will fall into a very dangerous death trap ... -A Americans great masters to set such "traps" ...
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 27 2018 03: 53
      +4
      I have not read more stupidity yet
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 April 27 2018 04: 04
        +2
        - You probably just do them ...
        1. garnik
          garnik April 27 2018 08: 36
          +2
          Sorry Madame. But you're wrong. Axis Armenia -Kazakhstan- Kyrgyzstan, this is from the realm of fantasy. Instead of Armenia, the so-called. Azerbaijan. Yes.
          1. Rolex
            Rolex April 28 2018 12: 33
            0
            laughing You are strange creatures, Garnik Jan. Do you have that, even when your wife has a headache, do you blame Azerbaijan for this ??? laughing
    2. glasha3032
      glasha3032 April 28 2018 00: 41
      +1
      And Russia has already fallen into the trap - now for Russia there’s no place to throw a wedge everywhere ... The Americans, having organized the “northern route” to Afghanistan through “neutral” Uzbekistan in Kazakhstan, will begin to put pressure on the Central Asian states and as a result we will lose all of our Central Asia . In a year or two, another Maidan will begin in Belarus, and here Russia is in a full ring of unfriendly states ... In the second ring, the first ring is our former friends under the Warsaw Treaty ...
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    1. perm23
      perm23 April 27 2018 16: 54
      +1
      Well then you arrange at home
    2. glasha3032
      glasha3032 April 28 2018 00: 44
      +1
      Have you forgotten how the Armenians burned the Russian flag at our embassy a couple of years ago? Or didn’t they know?
      1. Borders
        Borders April 28 2018 01: 08
        +1
        so what's in Kazakhstan? Uso, is the patient dead? I mean, the Americans have already gained a foothold there - am I talking about two bases in the Caspian that Nursultanka "gave" (for a while, og) to amers)? Then what is the fault of the Armenians?
        1. Seal
          Seal April 28 2018 11: 37
          0
          From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
          media = http: //www.globalaffairs.ru/global-process
          es / Lobbizm-2014-itogi-16870
          In total, more than $ 2014 billion was spent on lobbying in America in 5.

          The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position.

          The Armenian National Committee of America still holds the second line, which, compared to the previous year, has noticeably increased. So, in the group of Armenian affairs of the Congress today (in 2014 - my footnote) 113 lawmakers are against 92 in 2013.
          The members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees:
          - on international affairs (House of Representatives and Senate),
          - on external appropriations (House of Representatives and Senate)
          - The leader of the Democratic majority of the Senate.

          The Armenian lobby managed to maintain the allocation by the US government of free financial assistance to Armenia and the NKR, to lobby for the adoption by the state of California of a resolution recognizing the independence of the NKR.

          PS The committees on international affairs and on external appropriations in the USA have been in the hands of the Armenian lobby since 2014. And this means that all the dirty tricks, including the sanctions that have been imposed on us since the beginning of 2014, were done, among other things, by the hands of Armenian lobbyists - the chairmen of these two ESSENTIAL US CONGRESS committees.
          1. garnik
            garnik April 28 2018 13: 29
            0
            And what, is this done to the detriment of Russia?
      2. garnik
        garnik April 28 2018 06: 54
        0
        Why did they burn scumbags, forgot? I am not a supporter of such actions

        The flag of Russia was burned and trampled by representatives of the authorities of some republic.
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 27 2018 12: 17
    +2
    Now they will throw me poop, but I will write. After the Maidan of Ukrainians somehow my pity finally utrophied. Throughout the history of mankind, because of its stupidity, entire nations and civilizations have disappeared. Russia somehow always tried to preserve languages, national cultures and populations. Or maybe one should not shout against the natural process of checking the viability of peoples by nature? For, as soon as you begin to help with at least a word, you immediately become guilty of everything.
  12. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 27 2018 12: 17
    0
    We can only regret what is happening in Armenia. But we cannot do otherwise, we are interfering in the affairs of other states, as the United States, and indeed all Western countries, does. Every nation chooses what it wants. And if Armenia loses us, then it will lose a lot, if not all. Next to Turkey and Azerbaijan, with which Armenia has bad relations.
  13. drilled
    drilled April 27 2018 16: 00
    +2
    Leave them alone. Young puppies performing interviews do not remember 92 years old. Let the Azerbaijanis remind them. They have always had authentic Armenian knives.
    1. Borders
      Borders April 28 2018 01: 08
      +1
      92? and what was there?
  14. Sergey Novitsky
    Sergey Novitsky April 27 2018 23: 45
    0
    They want to bring down “Amer’s happiness”, only Americans are not Russian and will not be friends without profit and will quit when the need for “friendship” disappears, and they are far beyond the ocean, and Turkey and Azerbaijan are nearby.
  15. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 28 2018 00: 09
    0
    Quote: garnik

    a person speaks Russian. and knows a lot about religious movements.

    Garnik, this man also speaks Russian, also a clergyman of the Russian Orthodox Church, also knows a lot about religious movements and says that: "Armenians are not Orthodox. The priest’s answer is Armenian."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxDh9rvmTGo

    1. garnik
      garnik April 28 2018 00: 57
      0
      Such ignoramuses claimed that the Armenian Church was Gregorian. You will repeat the written Dym71.
  16. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 28 2018 00: 26
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    Garnik, did you notice who explains here for Orthodoxy? They survived, Muslims explain to us, for our faith! Look, the theologians have been found!
    Uhhapar - from the words "uchiha" (correct) and "park" (glory) = Orthodox
    ps and this link is for "Homeland" (Novruz):
    - http://armenianchurch.ge/en
    - Look, dear, enlighten! There is no need to read there, just look at the main page carefully. laughing

    For Orthodoxy, the Armenians explained well to the Arabs when the Arabs came to the Caucasus to conquer the Orthodox ancient Albania (Diophysites-true Orthodox). The Armenians quickly explained to the Arabs who is the “good” Christian and who is not. In principle, they did it under any new conqueror, stronger than the previous one. So the Turks (and the Kurds) were not very lucky when the Russian army came there to the eastern vilayets of Turkey, but then the Turks and Kurds also contemplated a little for the Armenian "pranks".
    Here is how the Armenians explained to the Arabs-conquerors the religious subtleties (in the Armenian sense), the differences between the "bad" Diophysite Orthodoxy and the "good" Armenian Monophysitism for the Arabs:
    Moses Khorensky also wrote that “the Armenian church in 704, while subordinating itself to the Albanian church with the help of the Arab caliphate (to which the Armenian church was actively serving) completely destroyed everything that was written in the Albanian language about Albanian history”. (The History of Aghvan, Book 1, Ch. 12).
    For political purposes, trying to coordinate the actions of the Christian population subject to them and the actions of churches, the Arab Caliphate, with the assistance of the Armenian Church, made the Albanian Church Monophysite and hierarchically subordinated it to the Monophysite Armenian Church (705). So, in 705, the Armenian Catholicos Ilya informed the Caliph Abd al-Malik (685 - 705) stating that the Albans are blocking with Byzantium against the caliphate, adhere to their religion - Diophysitism i.e. Orthodoxy. “The current Catholicos of Albania, sitting on a throne in Partava (Barda), entered into an agreement with the Greek emperor, mentions him in his prayers and forces the country to unite with him in the faith and accept his protection” (Moses Kalankatuisky, III, 5). Then Abd al-Malik, relying on the military-political power of the Arabs, subordinated Ilya the Catholicos of Albania. The instigators were arrested and committed to the Armenian Church Court. They were wheeled. and Further, by decree of the Caliph, the Albanian Catholicos was already to be ordained at the Armenian Catholicos. Then the Armenians rushed to destroy all written Church documents executed in Aghvan language. Albanian diplomas rushed to translate these documents into Grabar (other arm.language). Naturally, much has been lost. The Aghvan language itself was lost. Thus, all the ancient Albanian documents came to us on the hornbeam. Over the centuries, many Armenian scribes have made corrections to them.
    Armenians never change anything. Strong and faithful friend for the time being ... assistant to the "bosses")
    1. Borders
      Borders April 28 2018 01: 09
      +2
      and where is the quote from Pushkin, so beloved by the Azeris? Are you not an adit?
    2. garnik
      garnik April 28 2018 01: 18
      +1
      First, open the map and locate who lived where. The population of the left bank of the Kura River used the Avan language, and the Armenians lived on the right bank. After the Armenians lost the territory of Arsakh and Utik at the end of the 4th century, the Persians included it in the Caucasian Albania vassal from it. But and after that the Armenians lived there. The territory of the right bank of the Kura before the merger with Araks was inhabited by Armenians.
      And one of you posted a list of peoples living before the revolution in this territory, and Albanians and Azerbaijanis were present there.
      When you copy the link, leave it. I know that in your new history textbooks, the Armenians are crossed out or called Aghvans.
  17. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 28 2018 01: 26
    +2
    Quote: garnik
    Such ignoramuses claimed that the Armenian Church was Gregorian. You will repeat the written Dym71.


    Garnik, he’s already ignorant with you)), and why the ignoramus is not the first one?) What kind of passion to label the believers and even the clergy who have a different opinion from you. I understand the respected Dym71 is very well-versed in theology, I suppose), and I'm almost scared of his intervention), but by nature I am a revisionist and prefer to believe my eyes:
    These comrades call monophysitism heresy: Monophysitic heresy. Armenian church
    Information taken from the missionary Orthodox portal - www.dishupravoslaviem.ru
    Here is an Armenian believer, probably also an ignoramus)) claims the following that the Armenian Apostolic Church (AAC) is not Orthodox: https://markgrigorian.livejournal.com/882878.html
    No, because according to the Orthodox doctrine, the resolutions of the seven Ecumenical Councils from 49 to 787 are recognized. As you can see, this is a very old story. The AAC recognizes only the first three.

    No - because Orthodoxy is a single organizational structure with its autocephaly, that is, separate, independent churches. 14 autocephalous churches are recognized, there are several so-called autonomous churches that are not recognized by all. The Armenian Church adopted the decisions of the first three cathedrals. Decisions of the 4th Chalcedon and Daoyee were not adopted. You yourself will decide among Armenians there first)
    Here are the Orthodox from the monastery "Cross Deserts" who also consider Armenian monophysitism a heresy!
    The Armenian Church is twice Monophysite: in its own confession of heresy and in communion with the Monophysite churches (because according to the teachings of the Church, whoever communicates with a heretic is a heretic himself ...
    http://krestovayapustin.cerkov.ru/2015/10/09/v-ch
    em-raznica-mezhdu-pravoslaviem-i-armyanskoj-cerko
    vyu-i-est-li-v-nej-spasenie /
    1. garnik
      garnik April 28 2018 07: 14
      0
      http://dishupravoslaviem.ru/monofizitskaya-eres/
      You can argue until the pulse is lost. The main thing is how the Armenians consider themselves. Of course there is a difference between the churches, although they are all Orthodox. I am baptized in the Armenian church, and my wife is in the Russian. And on religious holidays we visit the Russian church. Would be Catholic, would go there too.
      1. garnik
        garnik April 28 2018 07: 28
        +1
        Yes, the Armenian believer does not deny Orthodoxy. And the link that you dropped and I confirmed proves that the Armenians are Orthodox.
        Read to the end, not the table of contents.
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 April 28 2018 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: Scorpio05
      Dym71 is very versed in theology, I suppose)

      No, I’m not well-versed, but at one time, seriously (unlike you, but you are essentially posting the same text since 2016), I was interested in the topic of relations between the ROC and the AAC and the main thing that I learned for myself in the following:
      1. The AAC is not monophysites (mono - one, physis - nature) because they initially recognize both the divine and human nature in Jesus Christ, venerate the Holy Trinity (a theological term that reflects the Christian doctrine of three faces God’s unity in essence), and not least, they themselves deny Monophysitism — he who hears, let him hear!
      2. To put it simply (for understanding by a Muslim), the AAC considers itself to be more Orthodox than the Russian Orthodox Church, that’s the whole of Chalcedon! In our creeds, unity totally dominates contradictions and only orthodoxy! (let me remind you that the Orthodox are Orthodox Christians) ROC and AAC! nourishes centuries-old theological disputes of the Armenian and Russian clergy, which is normal, because truth is born in a dispute! hi
  18. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 28 2018 01: 49
    +1
    Quote: Borders
    and where is the quote from Pushkin, so beloved by the Azeris? Are you not an adit?

    Mr. Pograntsov, I will give you an amazing fact that Azerbaijanis are different, although apparently this is not obvious to you). As for me, I personally do not think it is right to use this quote from Pushkin for some reasons, including ethical ones, which is probably a discovery for you too. I explain it in detail for you, because for me a person is first God's creation, that he may turn out to be cattle and redneck (do not take it upon yourself) is a matter of subsequent upbringing and difficult childhood.
    Yes, and take the trouble to call our nationality correctly and completely.
  19. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 10: 51
    +2
    Quote: Captain Pushkin
    1. Azerbaijan is needed, but there is no such rope that could tightly tie Azerbaijan to Russia.

    There is such a rope. This is ..... Armenia.
    It is necessary to help Azerbaijan restore territorial integrity. And then start a little stroking the withers of Armenia, wiping their tears from loss. So that Azerbaijan understands that a step to the left is a step to the right of Russia and .... and the Armenians will again go to take Karabakh. lol
  20. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 01
    +2
    Quote: garnik
    You can argue until the pulse is lost. The main thing is how the Armenians consider themselves.

    No. Enough. Once you have already fooled us with your false Orthodoxy. Most likely it was then that the Armenian church introduced the term "Orthodox" in its name.
    It all started with the fact that a certain Armenian priest Joseph (Argutinsky), asking Paul I to take protection of the Armenians, introduced the king of Armenians as an Orthodox people. He promised our emperor Paul I that if our Tsar takes the Armenians under his protection, that during the service in Armenian churches they will glorify the name of the Emperor of All Russia and his family members in the same way as it is done in the Russian Orthodox Church. Pavel the First in 1798 issued a Decree stating that the Russian crown takes the Armenian people under its protection and recognized this priest Joseph Argutinsky as the most important Armenian hierarch. Like the Armenian patriarch.
    And only after almost 100 years it was revealed that they did not mention in the Armenian churches, did not mention and did not intend to mention the Russian Tsar. Since the service is conducted according to the Etchmiadzin canon, which prohibits mentioning .... I don’t remember now, whether it’s forbidding to mention kings in principle, or whether it’s forbidding to mention kings of a non-Gregorian religion. But in our case, it doesn’t matter on the forehead or on the forehead. The main thing that was not mentioned. Moreover, Armenians teach this in their parish schools. And Emperor Alexander III made an absolutely fair decision to close schools, and soon, since the Armenian schools continued to work illegally at Gregorian churches, a decision was made to take property from this church.
    However, here you need more.
    1. Seal
      Seal April 28 2018 11: 02
      +2
      Read more.
      After the Russian-Turkish war of 1878-1879 . in which Loris-Melikov showed himself to be a worthless commander, breaking our forces into three columns, as a result of which our forces were besieged in Bayazet, and the other column was essentially idle, rising even higher, becoming a Member of the State Council (February 11, 1880) , Honorary Member of the Imperial Academy of Sciences (29.12.1880/XNUMX/XNUMX).
      And in the last months of the reign of Emperor Alexander II, he served as Minister of Internal Affairs with expanded powers.
      And it was during his leadership of the ministry that the head of state, Emperor Alexander II, was murdered in St. Petersburg in circumstances that indicated the absence of sufficient measures to protect the personal security of the emperor.
      This is the opinion of both Chief Prosecutor Pobedonostsev and the opinion of the new Emperor Alexander III.
      Therefore, the first thing that Alexander III did was to kick Loris-Melikov out with a filthy broom. In a letter dated April 30, 1881, Alexander III wrote to Pobedonostsev: “I received this morning a letter from Gr. Loris-Melikov, in which he asks for dismissal under the guise of illness. I answered him and accepted his request. <…> I saw yesterday gr. Loris-Melikov at the parade and then at breakfast at Oldenburgsky prospect, and although he did not say anything to me, it was evident from his face that he was very displeased and upset. "
      But the truly Russian Tsar Alexander III was not limited to Loris-Melikov alone. He instructs the Minister of Internal Affairs Tolstoy to immediately take measures against Armenians and Armenian nationalism as a whole !!!
      And by the end of the 1880s, almost all Armenians were fired from government posts in the Russian Empire.
      In 1885, Armenian schools were closed; in 1889, the course of history and geography of Armenia was excluded from schooling.
      No less cool for the Armenians took our Tsar Nicholas II. At first, in 1897-1899 laws were passed on the transfer of parish schools of Armenia to the Ministry of Education. And on June 12, 1903, the Regulation “On the Concentration of Property Management of the Armenian-Gregorian Church in Russia in the possession of government institutions” was adopted. According to it, all real estate (including profitable land) and capital belonging to the Armenian church and religious institutions passed into the jurisdiction of the state. True, this cannot be called complete confiscation, since the share of their owner, the Armenian religious institutions, was allocated from the proceeds from the sale of confiscated property and cash. And only the First Russian Revolution of 1905, when we were already not up to the Armenians, made Nicholas II turn off this path
  21. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 29
    +2
    Quote: garnik
    After the loss of the territory of Ar.tsakh and Utik by the Armenians at the end of the 4th century,

    Documents confirming your version - to the studio !!! At least one letter dated exactly that time in which there would be something like
    "Ah, my friend Khachik, what a difficult time our time has come. What a bad turn this was our fourth century. Wah-wah-wah, what a grief - we have lost the territories of Ar.tsakh and Utik. What do we do ? May I live with you? Your friend Frunzik. the date. signature.".

    Further the same.
    Quote: garnik
    the Persians included it in the vassal of Caucasian Albania.

    Documents confirming your version - to the studio !!!
    What is included? By order, by decree, silently? How is vassality confirmed? An agreement? Where is he ? An oath of vassal? Where is she ? When was pronounced? Who was present? Who recorded this important event?
    Quote: garnik
    But even after that, Armenians lived there. The territory of the right bank of the Kura before the merger with Araks was inhabited by Armenians.

    Documents confirming your version - to the studio !!!

    And if you pass us excerpts from some historical books here, then these are just private opinions of the authors of the books. Yes, at least a team of authors.
  22. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 34
    +1
    Quote: Anchonsha
    We can only regret what is happening in Armenia.

    What to regret? The fact that the hump is falling from our back? So without this hump we will live better !!!
  23. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 41
    +2
    Quote: gorenina91
    Russia needs to be prepared for the fact that the US military base will be deployed in Armenia ... -This will be the beginning of the creation of the military "NATO axis" ... - "Armenia -Kazakhstan-Kyrgyzstan" ... And Russia will not be able to oppose this. ..

    How can it not oppose anything ?? Yes, I’ve been talking about this for the fourth year. Or even the fifth. Maybe !!!
    In conditions when Georgia aimed at NATO, we need to build and strengthen blood from our nose axis Russia-Azerbaijan-Iran. Our three countries, bordering each other, cover all of Eurasia from the Arctic Ocean to the Indian Ocean. And no one can extend any gas pipeline or oil pipeline bypassing our countries to the West. We immediately completely exclude any illusions from our Central Asian and Kazakhstani partners that they will be able to pull their oil pipelines and gas pipelines to Europe, bypassing Russia (or Azerbaijan bound to us). Not a single locomotive or wagon our three countries from the East (from China, Korea) on the way to the West - will not go round. Neither by land nor by sea (on ferries). And if we also close the airspace for the passage of aircraft of unfriendly countries, then flights of civil aviation of unfriendly countries will also be covered. We also fly around horseradish !!!
    But if we foolishly exchange Azerbaijan for Armenia, which is no better than Georgia, but unlike Georgia, which has access to the Black Sea, Armenia is in such an ass of the world that no one needs it at all and cannot influence anything - there will be problems .
    Showing on fingers.
    If Armenia joins NATO, then this will make us neither hot nor cold. We will just assume that the current NATO member of Turkey has slightly increased ass.
    But if God forbid, after Georgia, Azerbaijan, offended by our pro-Armenian position, will reach NATO, this will be a HUGE problem for us. Then NATO ships may end up in the Caspian Sea. Large ships, of course, will not appear, but small ships can very well be delivered disassembled by rail or road and then assemble them in Baku. In the same way as the Germans did in 1941-1942, when Turkey blocked the straits into the Black Sea with German and Italian warships. And then they will set up in Baku or somewhere else normal assembly production so that they can also assemble destroyers. At present, nothing is impossible. It would be a desire and money. On fig us in the Caspian Sea NATO fleet ????
    And it’s better to give Armenia to the USA. Moreover, it is only in words with us, and in fact, has long been with the United States. The Armenian lobby in the US Congress is the second most powerful after the Israeli. In Armenia (and in Russia) there is practically no Armenian family that does not have relatives in the United States or in France. Therefore, Armenians in general should not be allowed to access any of our secret military or secret state documents. Not without reason during the USSR in questionnaires there was a point: "Do you have relatives abroad."
    It is in Russia's national interests to help Azerbaijan regain Karabakh and thereby bind Azerbaijan to us. And then it will be possible to feed Armenia a little. Including weapons. So that Azerbaijan understands that if it only thinks of leaving us somewhere, the Armenians will again go to take Karabakh. Nothing personal. The state interests of Russia above all.
  24. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 45
    +2
    Quote: tankist82
    Russia has no more faithful ally.

    Yeah. Type
    A horse does not have a more faithful ally than a gadfly.
    All gadflies treat horses very well.
    Gadfly and horse - friendship forever.

    The main thing for Russia is the interests of Russia. And not Armenia. And not Azerbaijan. But the objective reality is that we need Azerbaijan, not Armenia. In the conditions when Georgia set its sights on NATO, we need to build and strengthen the Russia-Azerbaijan-Iran axis from our nose. Our three countries, bordering each other, cover all of Eurasia from the Arctic Ocean to the Indian Ocean. And no one can extend any gas pipeline or oil pipeline bypassing our countries to the West. We immediately completely exclude any illusions from our Central Asian and Kazakhstani partners that they will be able to pull their oil pipelines and gas pipelines to Europe, bypassing Russia (or Azerbaijan bound to us). Not a single locomotive or wagon our three countries from the East (from China, Korea) on the way to the West - will not go round. Neither by land nor by sea (on ferries). And if we also close the airspace for the passage of aircraft of unfriendly countries, then flights of civil aviation of unfriendly countries will also be covered. We also fly around horseradish !!!
    But if we foolishly exchange Azerbaijan for Armenia, which is no better than Georgia, but unlike Georgia, which has access to the Black Sea, Armenia is in such an ass of the world that no one needs it at all and cannot influence anything - there will be problems .
    Showing on fingers.
    If Armenia joins NATO, then this will make us neither hot nor cold. We will just assume that the current NATO member of Turkey has slightly increased ass.
    But if God forbid, after Georgia, Azerbaijan, offended by our pro-Armenian position, will reach NATO, this will be a HUGE problem for us. Then NATO ships may end up in the Caspian Sea. Large ships, of course, will not appear, but small ships can very well be delivered disassembled by rail or road and then assemble them in Baku. In the same way as the Germans did in 1941-1942, when Turkey blocked the straits into the Black Sea with German and Italian warships. And then they will set up in Baku or somewhere else normal assembly production so that they can also assemble destroyers. At present, nothing is impossible. It would be a desire and money. On fig us in the Caspian Sea NATO fleet ????
    And it’s better to give Armenia to the USA. Moreover, it is only in words with us, and in fact, has long been with the United States. The Armenian lobby in the US Congress is the second most powerful after the Israeli. In Armenia (and in Russia) there is practically no Armenian family that does not have relatives in the United States or in France. Therefore, Armenians in general should not be allowed to access any of our secret military or secret state documents. Not without reason during the USSR in questionnaires there was a point: "Do you have relatives abroad."
    It is in Russia's national interests to help Azerbaijan regain Karabakh and thereby bind Azerbaijan to us. And then it will be possible to feed Armenia a little. Including weapons. So that Azerbaijan understands that if it only thinks of leaving us somewhere, the Armenians will again go to take Karabakh. Nothing personal. The state interests of Russia above all.
  25. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 11: 48
    +1
    Quote: tankist82
    Russia has no more faithful ally.

    Search for the expression "Lieutenant Shapovalov didn’t pass weapons", read and do not write such nonsense anymore.
  26. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 12: 05
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    And there are those who started from scratch or invested in production. They probably heard about Galitsky. They took it, I think they’ll squeeze it out of the stadium. But what does it mean not to have a roof in the USA or in Israel.

    The Armenian of Thessaloniki Harutyunyan did not start from scratch. And from privatization checks. Then he became a banker. Then, as he himself often said, he took out a loan from some "new banking acquaintances." To which he began to develop his business and suddenly his company, about which he himself says that she looked like a "thin pig", "who runs all the time and looks for an apple in the forest" - became the exclusive distributor of Procter & Gamble throughout the Krasnodar Territory ...
    Sorry, this is not the case in life.
    Then your hero created another company, which in 1998 the company opened its first self-service grocery store in Krasnodar. Others went for these stores. Interestingly, unlike its competitors, Magnit stores never robbed business people. Only addicts or alcoholics. Or a very young shoot. Well, even stray or not recognizing the authority of Vainakhs.
    Why? Here it is worth seeing who has long been the main authority on the Black Sea coast.
    Why did your hero sell the business.
    I suggest looking at the contractors who built the stadium. Many of them are associated with ... well, with those who are the main authority on the Black Sea coast. These are essentially financial injections into ... that sphere. After the construction (by the way, the expensive, not like, of course, Zenit Arena, where the vice-governor was spotlight The former vice-governor of St. Petersburg Marat Hovhannisyan, which last year admitted fraud for more than 50 million rubles. during the construction of the Zenit Arena on Krestovsky Island and concluded a pre-trial agreement on cooperation, but also) ended - there was nothing more to pour in. You can’t transfer a lot of money to Black Cash from the Magnit network, since recently all cash registers transfer information directly to the tax office. And the Magnet network itself sank sharply.
    In general, time has passed to jump off. He jumped off.
    1. garnik
      garnik April 28 2018 14: 03
      +1
      Yes, you are a specialist in boltalogy. Where are the evidence and documents with a seal. winked What you yourself require for proof. Galitsky from Krasnodar and the business started with friends. By the way, the daughter is studying at KubSU. You can not answer, I have no desire to discuss with cryptoturk.
  27. Rolex
    Rolex April 28 2018 12: 28
    +1
    Quote: Dym71

    Khasanchik, dear, you are a kafir provocateur, not an agnostic! yes

    I am Russian, baptized in the Tula Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church MP, the temple of the Twelve Apostles. smile

    Inshalla!


    Andrew, not good. you! Learn materiel, my dear! For a kafir is one who denies God. And I do not deny His existence, but just do not take the side of any religion or belief. bully

    With what I congratulate you! hi

    Inshallah? belay Did you learn this in Tula at baptism? am laughing
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 April 28 2018 12: 53
      +1
      Khasanchik, explaining the essence, for those who are on an armored train:
      At VO, assessments are not as important as timely identification of the provocative troll.
      The next step is to stop feeding him, and what this troll really is is a do-it-yourself bulb! yes
      So here, my dear! tongue
      1. Rolex
        Rolex April 28 2018 13: 31
        0
        Chick, I understand you very well. love When there are not enough words, it is easier to blame your counterpart in trolling.
  28. Seal
    Seal April 28 2018 12: 54
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    There is of course a difference between the churches, although they are all Orthodox.

    In fact, all Eastern Orthodox churches RESPECT each other and call themselves sister churches. And from mutual respect, the main principle follows - not a single sister Orthodox church conducts its activities on the territory of another sister Orthodox Church. Neither Antioch, nor Alexandria, nor Serbian, nor Georgian, nor Abyssinian, etc. Orthodox churches conduct their activities on the territory of the Moscow Patriarchate and on the territories of other sister churches.
    And who leads? Yes, only those who do not respect the principles developed by sister Orthodox churches: Protestants, Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah’s .. and Gregorians. Oh, sorry, and the "Armenian Apostolic Holy Church" lol
  29. Rolex
    Rolex April 28 2018 13: 01
    +1
    Quote: tankist82
    Stop Russian, do not give in to provocation. Russia has no more faithful ally. Do not believe the Turkish-Azerbaijanis. The task of this nomadic tribe is to drive a wedge between Russia and Armenia. Turkey practically annexed Georgia. Look at the map. Georgia is already standing with the letter si. Then Armenia, then state. for some reason, it was named in honor of the Iranian province and .... The open road to the Turkic Derbent, the Turkic North Caucasus, almost all of Central Asia, the Turkic Volga region, up to Turkic Kazan. This is called the great Turan - the dream of Erdogan. In 1915, there were less than half of the country's population of Turks. TOTAL 13 million. Now there are 70 million and 99% are Turks and descendants of forcibly imprisoned children of Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians. So if the Turks break through to the Caspian Sea, the entire Volga region and the entire south of Russia will blaze, from Nalchik to Altai. God forbid from such a scenario. And only we disturb them. Armenia at these @@ it, like a bone in the throat, can’t swallow not to spit out .. While we are few, but the Armenians are the soldiers who proved the truth of these words in practice. If you believe the leader of the country east of Armenia, then 20 thousand Armenians drove out ONE MILLION az-ev. And they liberated (in their "occupied") 20% of the territory. Enough about them. Better watch the performance of the New Armenians team on the 55th anniversary of KVN. That's how we rejoice for friends. Follow the link: - KVN 2016 Special project "55 years of KVN" (27.11.2016/40.49/XNUMX) GAME TOTAL Full HD XNUMX min.

    Regarding the "Maidan" in Yerevan. Know the Russians, ANY politician who tries to call Russia an enemy will instantly turn into a POLITICAL one, I repeat the POLITICAL CORE. Armenians simply cannot be rubbed indefinitely - the blood is hot, although yours will be hotter, just harness for a long time. So far, thank God you are all calm thanks to GDP. And we, too, are calmer under the wing of GREAT RUSSIA. The Russian flag on the border with Turkey will stop her from idiotic thoughts and body movements. And we will deal with azeri ourselves, not the first time. By and large, Serge protected the business of his two brothers, whose nickname was 50/50. They became co-owners (share of 50%, or tortured by inspections) of almost all successful businesses. So the people rose. But this is the INTERNAL Armenian Revolution. Let's not draw premature conclusions.


    Write disappeared, Ashot! laughing Hall rumbles standing! Oscar goes to Ashot! What pathos, what Armenian acting! Bravo! laughing You would still traditionally, that is, in Armenian, cry on your knees, ahperchik. wassat







    Wah, macaw, what kind of bad Azerbaijanis and what kind of Armenians! crying

    PS. And now, if you can, just bend the hoof and show me who else has so vehemently opposed Russia in recent years except for the “faithful” “ally,” that is, Armenia. stop
  30. Rolex
    Rolex April 28 2018 13: 08
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    What’s your business? Something the Turks in Sochi somehow came across all adequate. They didn’t throw money. Unlike some bully

    The same as yours. When there will also be many Turks, you will meet your favorite scammers, but this is nothing, they will ignore you.,


    Scammers? Hmm, your fellow tribesmen in Armenia think differently about the scam.

  31. Rolex
    Rolex April 28 2018 13: 21
    0
    Quote: garnik


    The flag of Russia was burned and trampled by representatives of the authorities of some republic.


    Yeah, these were aliens, not Armenians. And even easier and simpler, swear by your mother that they were Azerbaijanis. Facespalm! negative
  32. Dym71
    Dym71 April 28 2018 15: 18
    +2
    Quote: Rolex
    When there are not enough words, it is easier to blame your counterpart in trolling.

    I blame not for trolling, but for provocations through trolling. I outlined my understanding in the previous comments. There are essentially no objections; I’m tired of reading the answers in the form of copy-paste from forums on religious subjects, because I already read them earlier. - "Bored, girls!" (with) yes
  33. Alexey Ivanov_2
    Alexey Ivanov_2 April 28 2018 21: 13
    +3
    Why is Russia Armenia? what she gives us economically. politically, militarily. Armenia and Georgia The Russian Empire took over after their numerous requests and exclusively on a religious basis. And what did you get in return? After the revolution of 1917, Armenia instantly crossed over to the British side. Germans and others (like Georgia).
    I remember very well. how our soldiers were killed. attacked our units in Transcaucasia in the 90s! Itself stood under the trunks of Armenian militants near Leninakan. How Armenia cut off all ties with Russia and only completely starving again remembered about "fraternal Russia." Now Armenia. in my opinion, it just parasitizes in Russia. Armenians almost completely occupied Kuban and Stavropol Territory. Sochi is not Russian. and the Armenian city! It is not ruled out at the time and there is its own "Karabakh".
    And in Armenia, a classic Maidan. The West has already supported the “opposition”, has demanded that Yerevan not use force. GlavoppAsionёr already met with the ambassadors of the EU and the USA. Street blocking, child use and demand. that the "square" appointed a new prime minister - one in one maidan
  34. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 28 2018 23: 05
    0
    Quote: Dym71
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Dym71 is very versed in theology, I suppose)

    No, I’m not well-versed, but at one time, seriously (unlike you, but you are essentially posting the same text since 2016), I was interested in the topic of relations between the ROC and the AAC and the main thing that I learned for myself in the following:

    1. The AAC is not monophysites (mono - one, physis - nature) because they initially recognize both the divine and human nature in Jesus Christ, venerate the Holy Trinity (a theological term that reflects the Christian doctrine of three faces God’s unity in essence), and not least, they themselves deny Monophysitism — he who hears, let him hear!
    2. To put it simply (for understanding by a Muslim), the AAC considers itself to be more Orthodox than the Russian Orthodox Church, that’s the whole of Chalcedon! In our creeds, unity totally dominates contradictions and only orthodoxy! (let me remind you that the Orthodox are Orthodox Christians) ROC and AAC! nourishes centuries-old theological disputes of the Armenian and Russian clergy, which is normal, because truth is born in a dispute! hi


    As for the text that I have been citing since 2016, it is commendable that you follow the activities of such a modest person like me) Nevertheless, the morality (lessons) that can be learned from what happened in ancient times in the Caucasus remains valid, I don’t think must be forgotten.
    The gospel of Matthew the true. Chapter 17: Jesus says to him: I do not say to you, “no,” for he who obeys mercy is worthy; but will he become your brother, if he betrayed him once?

    Further...
    It’s strange, because the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church (I gave one answer above) have a different opinion from you. And Armenians can think a lot, the opinion of the Orthodox hierarchs themselves, at least, is also important. And it’s not so simple with the Armenians themselves, they are, let's say, somewhat confused in the “testimonies”))
    Archbishop Garegin Sargsyan, the future Catholicos of all Armenians, although he draws attention to the ambiguity of the term “monophysitism”, nevertheless writes: “... We use this term [“ monophysitism ”] for the anti-Chalcedonian movement, because it has become generally accepted in historical and theological literature "(Sarkissian, Karekin, Bp. The Council of Chalcedon and the Armenian Church. New York, 1965. P. 46).
    I don’t give my opinion, because I, as you put it, being a Muslim, I have no right to express an opinion on currents in Christianity). By the way, the Pravda newspaper would argue with you: “It’s enough to say only that all theologians of both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches consider both Armenians and Egyptian Christian Copts to be monophysite heretics without options.” Source: https://www.pravda.ru/faith/confessions/nationrel
    igions / 16-10-2012 / 1131515-armenia-0 / Therefore, let’s say, AAC believers cannot be remembered in Orthodox churches, buried in the Orthodox rite, or perform other Sacraments over them. Accordingly, the participation of the Orthodox in the Armenian liturgy is the reason for his excommunication - before repentance of the sin committed.
    Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/faith/confessions/nationrel
    igions/16-10-2012/1131515-armenia-0/
    Yes, your opinion, my friend, there are more opponents in Russia than Sargsyan in Armenia))


    Here is also the opinion of George Maximov, priest (Site of the priest George Maximov):
    1. Council decisions. At II Dvina Cathedral in 555, the Chalcedon Cathedral and its supporters were anathematized. The AAC Cathedral of 584 and the Cathedral of 607 confirmed this decision and also condemned and anathematized Chalcedonian creed. The Dvina Cathedral of 720 was repeated the same thing. And in 726, at the AAC Council in Manazkert, the following creed was formulated: "If no one professes the one nature of the incarnate God of the Word according to the inexpressible union in the Divine, which is from the Divine and humanity ... - let there be an anathema." The definitions of these councils remain valid to this day and the Armenian Church has not been revised or canceled.
    2. Divine service practice. To this day, every priest of the AAC anathematizes St. Tomos. Leo of Rome and the whole "host of Diophysites", which are understood as members of the Orthodox Church.] One person, one
    3. Texts of modern theologians. In the book "Christology of the Armenian Church" by Archbishop Yeznik Petrosyan, published in Echmiadzin in 1995, the AAC teaching is stated as follows: "only one nature should be professed - divine, consisting of an inseparable unity of two entities - a perfect Divine and perfect human nature."

    Since the AAC still teaches in the same way as the ancient Monophysites and rejects the Council of Chalcedon in the same way as the ancient Monophysites, it is called Monophysite, as Archbishop Vereisky Eugene, MDA Rector recently recalled.
    The assertions of the supporters of the AAC that they should not be called Monophysites, since only the Eutychians should supposedly be called that way, and they follow the wording of St. Cyril of Alexandria, denounces their weak knowledge of the subject. Since the Euthychians likewise referred to the same phrase of St. Cyril. But just as the AAC found the Euthyan understanding of this phrase to be erroneous and anathematized, so the Orthodox Church considers the understanding of this phrase that the “moderate” Monophysites offer to be heretical.

    Sorry for the spaciousness, I considered it necessary to give the basic postulates of Priest George Maximov. I’m kind of in flight, because of the reason you quoted above winked , dear priest answered your statements better.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 April 29 2018 00: 53
      +1
      Dear Scorpio, I see from the comments that you, unlike your fellow countryman - "kefira agnostic" "Rolex (Hassan Seyid)", is a believer, and therefore, sincerely and with all my heart I ask you, a Muslim, not to get into your own business (we will solve common problems with the Armenians ourselves) and give me rest while I drink vodka in Tula with your fellow countryman (his name is Faik).
      Thank you very much in advance! hi
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 April 29 2018 01: 06
        +2
        Addition to the account text!
        As for the text I have cited since 2016, it is commendable that you follow the activities of such a modest person like me)

        In our fast-paced time, you don’t need to follow someone, because everything that you once wrote is easily searched through the Internet by means of an elementary request in any browser, that is, I copy your comment, upload it to the search engine and voila - all the ins and outs of you! wink
  35. Khachik Khachikyan
    Khachik Khachikyan April 29 2018 01: 24
    0
    Without Armenia, Russia will quickly get under the peritoneum of two semi-hostile countries with the help of which the United States will also dismember Russia not by military means but through the North Caucasus and do not think that it will very upset Azerbaijan (recall Gaballa) or Turkey (recall the sold plane, etc.) rather vice versa .Do not be guided only by financial opportunities here, the geopolitical aspect is more dominant and someone believes that Turkey will abandon the United States and at the right time will not take decisive destabilizing steps with the help of an assistant as a decisive blow in the back at a more convenient time?
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  38. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 29 2018 02: 10
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    Addition to the account text!
    As for the text I have cited since 2016, it is commendable that you follow the activities of such a modest person like me)

    In our fast-paced time, you don’t need to follow someone, because everything that you once wrote is easily searched through the Internet by means of an elementary request in any browser, that is, I copy your comment, upload it to the search engine and voila - all the ins and outs of you! wink

    Yah ? Fine. Bon Appetit. I also sipped a little local chardonnay with a friend of the Englishman at dinner (he really liked). There were miniature gyurza (this is not a snake, but a kind of local dumplings)), just a bit like a starter and the so-called “kefli béche” - a chicken baked in wine, also white, by the way. Will you order in Baku - lick your fingers good Only here they do. And the Armenians, by the way, haven’t managed to steal these dishes from us yet)) A friend came to the formula, only I didn’t have any tickets, but he did))) Come, it's beautiful here.
    About what I wrote. This is the same ban most often in relation to the Armenians. I love to have fun over their pathos. Usually at night repeat . Sometimes the truth can piss me off. And what I said, such as “follow my activities,” but never mind. Don’t you catch the irony?) It just wouldn’t have occurred to me to search in Google, or somehow to be interested in something else that you and someone wrote)) I don’t care about that. Just write nonsense, no offense, which all and sundry refutes.
    As for the Armenians and you, yes to me somehow ... at least get married to each other, as if to put it more delicately. By and large, apparently you deserve the Armenians as allies or pawns and something, after what they say about Russia and what they did with your state symbols, someone should marry some one if he is a gentleman wink
  39. dDYHA
    dDYHA April 29 2018 14: 46
    0
    Armenians So this is the indigenous inhabitants of Moscow. But seriously, then the Turks will wait again. Those will not play in the law on national minorities.
    1. garnik
      garnik April 29 2018 21: 09
      0
      Azerbaijanis outnumber Armenians. You can breathe easy. wink
  40. Rolex
    Rolex April 29 2018 17: 42
    +1
    Quote: Khachik Khachikyan
    Without Armenia, Russia will quickly get under the peritoneum ...............

    Khachik (what a lyrical name), why are you so modest, eh? The Armenian should not be modest! (remember how another Khachik taught a Russian policeman, how the Armenians brought Christianity to Russia lol ) I would immediately write that without Armenia Russia will not live a day. Khachik, do not you think that it’s time for the Armenians to get rid of their imaginary importance? You do not need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand that the baseboard megalomania, baseless Armenian egocentrism causes only giggles among others. I understand that the Armenians need to assert themselves and throw off the inferiority complex through such baseless bluster, but for God's sake do not go too far. You are no one and they call you nothing! lol
    1. garnik
      garnik April 29 2018 21: 34
      0
      You are no one and they call you nothing!


      And that says who? lol Russia converted to Christianity at a time when the Vasilevs of the Byzantine Empire were Armenians by origin. Yes, Anna, one of the wives of Vladimir and the mother of the first great martyrs of the Russian Orthodox Church, Boris and Gleb, is an Armenian. All in all. And this is bragging, ogly? Laugh heartily and look back at your age-old story.
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  42. Boyar
    Boyar April 29 2018 20: 08
    +2
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Rolex
    Peter also did not know that Russian border guards would stand on the Armenian borders and protect the peace of long-suffering Armenians, while those in Stavropol, Sochi, on the Internet demonstrate their “coolness” and “fearlessness”

    They are also demonstrating in Moscow, to get at least the "fearless" Shmara Baghdosoryan, they already got it.

    Gold words. Armenians should live in their historical homeland and raise it from the ruins, and not to spoil in Russia.
  43. Boyar
    Boyar April 29 2018 20: 10
    +1
    Quote: Rolex
    Quote: Khachik Khachikyan
    Without Armenia, Russia will quickly get under the peritoneum ...............

    Khachik (what a lyrical name), why are you so modest, eh? The Armenian should not be modest! (remember how another Khachik taught a Russian policeman, how the Armenians brought Christianity to Russia lol ) I would immediately write that without Armenia Russia will not live a day. Khachik, do not you think that it’s time for the Armenians to get rid of their imaginary importance? You do not need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand that the baseboard megalomania, baseless Armenian egocentrism causes only giggles among others. I understand that the Armenians need to assert themselves and throw off the inferiority complex through such baseless bluster, but for God's sake do not go too far. You are no one and they call you nothing! lol

    Unfortunately, this cannot be explained to the Armenians, they consider themselves exceptional. No wonder they are called Transcaucasian Jews.
  44. Boyar
    Boyar April 29 2018 20: 13
    +1
    Quote: Rolex
    Quote: garnik
    What’s your business? Something the Turks in Sochi somehow came across all adequate. They didn’t throw money. Unlike some bully

    The same as yours. When there will also be many Turks, you will meet your favorite scammers, but this is nothing, they will ignore you.,


    Scammers? Hmm, your fellow tribesmen in Armenia think differently about the scam.


    That is their essence. The Turks were right.
  45. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 29 2018 20: 22
    +1
    Why, having an example of Ukraine, still some officials have not scratched themselves. After all, everything goes under the carbon copy. Again the proven technology and money from the city of Soros or the CIA, which is the same thing. Now they threatened the Armenian bureaucrats with confiscation of capital and they have already surrendered power. Then wait for the war in Karabakh and the training of Armenian youth in hatred of Russia. All according to plan. Really not in one bureaucratic head a thought flickered. There will be no well-fed life in the West and there will be nothing at all. All these spells about the world are nonsense, which Amer doesn't give a damn about. Carthage Russia must be destroyed. Dot.
  46. Boyar
    Boyar April 29 2018 21: 02
    +1
    The main thing is that the Ormyan refugees would not rush into Russia, they could not breathe from them in Sochi anyway, it seems that they occupied Sochi and the entire Krasnodar Territory. Behave impudently as owners.
  47. Alexander Kalashnikov
    Alexander Kalashnikov April 29 2018 22: 05
    +1
    Preamble. It so happened that to me personally the Armenians are very pretty as a people. But personal sympathies and state interests are two different things. Now - the ambulance. In 1991, Armenians (as a country) betrayed Russia. They did not want to remain neither in the Union, nor move to Russia in the rank of autonomy. Who does not remember - had such an idea. By the way, in the case of its implementation, Armenia did not lose anything - there was NEVER a "Russian occupation" in Armenia - 98% of the population of the Armenian SSR were Armenians. This is without taking into account the fact that in MODERN Russia there are almost three million citizens of Armenian origin (CITIZENS, not migrant migrant workers!), Than in Armenia itself. But the Armenians wanted "independence." Their right. So now, comrade Armenians, eat it (independence) with large spoons. In the current situation, impoverished Armenia, in addition, which does not have a common border with us, does not NEED Russia. She - like a suitcase without a handle - it’s a pity to throw, carrying is inconvenient. It is impossible to stop the “Armenian Maidan” that has already begun without the “Chinese” methods (ie machine guns and tanks). Clicked, it should be recognized. Therefore, from there, from Armenia, Russia must leave in advance - so that later they will not be kicked out in disgrace, as from Georgia. You will not be forcibly sweet, as they say. So - success in the struggle for "democracy", comrade the Armenians. It is believed that the tanks of the Turkish "peacekeepers" will look good on the shores of Sevan. PS And the estimated million of Armenian refugees is even not bad. Armenians are good workers, and there are many places in Russia.
  48. Yulai Khalilov_2
    Yulai Khalilov_2 April 30 2018 03: 15
    +2
    Yes, it will not mean anything. With modern weapons, our military base in Armenia serves only to defend Armenia and nothing more. But the loss of Russia, for Armenia the end of statehood!
  49. Yuri Korabelsky
    Yuri Korabelsky April 30 2018 10: 56
    0
    Nothing for Russia means the loss of Armenia! It's just that we will never lose Armenia! Well, it’s just that Armenia will never leave Russia!
  50. soldier
    soldier April 30 2018 13: 57
    +15
    Armenia is a true friend and ally of Russia in the Caucasus
    I hope everything settles down