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When just a few days ago in an article about events in ArmeniaI told about the US desire to clear the Transcaucasian corridor to Central Asia. It was difficult to imagine how coordinated the Americans would be in this key geopolitical direction. But the reality turned out to be more serious than the boldest expectations: the struggle in Armenia is still ongoing, and Washington has already agreed to establish military bases in the Caspian Sea, in Kazakhstan.




People far from geopolitics, did not attach much importance news from Kazakhstan, whose Senate ratified the agreement with the Americans on the use of Kazakh ports to ensure the transit of US military cargo to Afghanistan. And at first glance, this is really not such an important event: well, let them supply, think! At one time we allowed them to open a logistics center in Ulyanovsk: why, Kazakhs are worse? And if we tolerated NATO in our country, then in Kazakhstan we will even more tolerate!

They also recall the airbase in Kyrgyzstan - they opened, but we did not object, and nothing seemed to be alive until now. And is it worth sounding the alarm because the two Kazakh ports in the northern Caspian Sea, Aktau and Kuryk, will become US transit bases?

Yes, it is expected that the US military will appear there. And for the handling of goods, and for the protection of personnel, and in general, just in case. It is clear that for the protection of “caravans” from Baku they will slowly create a small flotilla. But this is the Caspian, say skeptics. This is the inland sea, and the aircraft carrier can not be driven there! And this is true - there will be no aircraft carriers there. But the Americans will be able to quickly arrange the assembly of relatively small vessels with their own anti-ship and anti-aircraft weapons in Baku - in general, this is by no means the most difficult task.

And instead of an aircraft carrier they will build a base in Aktau - the contract has already been signed, although we do not yet have clear information about the configuration of the object. Therefore, we take the conditional arithmetic mean — a small airfield, a powerful ground-based air defense system, and a pair of F-35B squadrons of the US Marine Corps stationed there “purely for formal reasons”.

Of course, such an option, even without aircraft carriers, transforms our undivided military domination in the Caspian Sea into a very conditional "numerical advantage." Because, for example, we also do not have aircraft carriers in the Caspian Sea, and there are no large surface ships of other types either. And will we be able in the near future to oppose F-35, the question is still a discovery, and adherents of "unparalleled in the world" will forgive me.

But this is, in general, nonsense. Well, you will think, Kazakhstan will quickly leave our orbit ... Behind him, seeing such a thing, Uzbeks, Turkmen and Kirghiz will line up for American cookies. Just think, the supply of our base in Tajikistan will become problematic ... As well as, in which case, logistics in the Russian-Iranian direction.

The Russian-Kazakh border, thousands of kilometers long and almost “naked” from the point of view of air defense, is no longer nonsense. Especially as Transsib stretches along this border for as many thousands of kilometers. And this, excuse me, is the state-forming railway, on which our entire economic sovereignty and territorial integrity rests.

Accessible to the enemy aviation, if anything, traditionally rear cities will become: Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Kemerovo. The very “deep rear”, the presence of which saved us in the Great Patriotic War.

I want to emphasize one point. The political invasion of the Americans into Ukraine was extremely painful for us primarily from the spiritual and cultural points of view. The military geopolitical component also took place, and very seriously, but by snatching the Crimea from the American mouth, we somehow managed to stop negative geopolitical consequences.

The loss of Kazakhstan will definitely become a real military catastrophe for us. More precisely, not yet military (we can lose it without a single shot), but already somewhere very close to that. This will be a complete military castration of the Russian Federation, after which we will only have to “drop the king” and wait for the next “geopolitical party”. China has been waiting for a second chance for hundreds of years.

And it’s not at all necessary that we even wait for it at least sometime ...

Probably, the last stage of the encirclement of Russia from the famous “Anaconda” plan began. The last ring, which should finally stifle our ambitions and secure the Russian Federation in the role of a disenfranchised energy supplier for the “golden billion”, and then into the American pawn in the game of the Anglo-Saxons against China.

Clearly, the author again "nightmare" the reader, since the implementation of such a scenario would take at best five years. And in five years, so much more can happen that it is scary to think.

But you still need to think. At least over why Americans need a more complex and costly logistics route, when existing ones manage to supply the American group in Afghanistan quite well. And why should they "ensure the safety" of the new route. More precisely, from whom? There, besides the Russian Federation and Iran, there are no other claimants for American goods. And if they can try to stop this flow, it is precisely because it can be directed against their interests.

In fact, a long-awaited, but no less dangerous, challenge has been thrown to us. And much will depend on whether we can accept it and respond adequately. And above all, Russia's military consistency in the coming decades.

We have not so many answers. They can be divided into two types - active and passive.

An active response is an attempt to prevent the growth of American influence and military presence in Central Asia. And while it is quite difficult to say how this can be achieved without using military force. Definitely winning options are not yet visible.

An extreme variant of an active response is the division of Kazakhstan and the return of its northern regions to the Russian Federation in order to push the American military component as far as possible from the current Russian borders and the industrial centers of the Urals and Siberia. This option is very “hot”, and it is unlikely that it will be possible even with the current degree of international relations.

The passive response lies in the regular program of rearmament of the army, the strengthening of air defense in the southern direction, the creation in the Central Asian direction of a powerful military group capable of both repelling the blow of a potential enemy and defeating him in the adjacent territory.

This option looks quite utopian, both because of lack of time and because of the huge funds that we will have to invest in it. Although in the long term we still have to strengthen this direction, and here's why.

The Central Asian region is geopolitically very important for China. And it is possible that in a certain scenario, we will have to divide Central Asia into zones of influence precisely with the PRC. So, the zone of direct contact with our mighty southern neighbor will increase, and this will require us, as if it is softer ...
That's right - do not provoke China with its own weakness.

However, the passive answer option looks very dubious. So, if the Russian leadership adequately assesses the situation, by the fall we can expect a new round of tension in the Russia-NATO relationship.

And this time it is very likely that the initiative will come from Moscow already ...
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor April 28 2018 05: 32
    +6
    Wow, heaped up, scary, already terrible! Time will tell, the work of the Foreign Ministry has increased!
    1. Titsen
      Titsen April 28 2018 06: 48
      +33
      Quote: andrewkor
      Wow, heaped up, scary, already terrible! Time will tell, the work of the Foreign Ministry has increased!


      The truth is written.

      Why cheat yourself?

      Russia will not have allies in the world!

      In addition to the army and navy.

      If we don’t even profound them ...
      1. mamertinets
        mamertinets April 28 2018 07: 45
        +14
        Quote: Titsen
        Quote: andrewkor
        Wow, heaped up, scary, already terrible! Time will tell, the work of the Foreign Ministry has increased!


        The truth is written.

        Why cheat yourself?

        Russia will not have allies in the world!

        In addition to the army and navy.

        If we don’t even profound them ...

        The author of the article dances interestingly, it turns out that today Kazakhstan has provided its ports for transshipment of US transit military cargo, tomorrow the same Kazakhs will approve the appearance of US air defense at these bases, the day after tomorrow the Kazakhs will almost sell their homeland - the US Air Force in the person of F -35 will appear there! ! lol The Armenians have a fairy tale, exactly matching what the author of this article wrote, “Kikos.” So, this fairy tale begins with the fact that a young unmarried girl comes to a well for water and thinks: “I’ll marry, I’ll have son, I’ll call him Kikos .. My Kikos will grow up, he will go after the water, slip and drown the poor in this deep well. and tears his hair, exactly like the author of the article. wassat Crying and moaning of the girl, the girl’s mother hears, runs to her, hears her daughter’s story about how poor Kikos “drowned” and starts to scream with her daughter, mourning the “death” of her granddaughter. laughing In the end - the whole village runs to the end, everyone sits and cries, mourning for the untimely "gone" to another world Kikos.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 28 2018 07: 52
          +13
          I will continue my comment. I told the Armenian folk tale not to ridicule the author of the article, although this moment is present, but to prevent the Russians from building terrible fictional fantasies for themselves and not making decisions based on fantastic and near-fantastic assumptions.
          1. Victor N
            Victor N April 28 2018 13: 38
            +22
            This is a song about the fact that "a friend was suddenly an enemy." And do not close your eyes and plug your ears: foe! Draw conclusions and act - help the Russians in Kazakhstan - at least like, at least with a kind word: let's figure out HOW. It is necessary to support YOUR subjects of Russian civilization — the Russian world — always and everywhere! A revels reveal and spread rot, but do not forgive for sure.
            1. revnagan
              revnagan April 28 2018 18: 40
              +8
              Quote: Victor N
              help Russians in Kazakhstan - at least like, at least with a kind word

              Thank you from Russian from Ukraine for HELP like and kind words ....
              1. P0LYM
                P0LYM 2 May 2018 21: 47
                +1
                hmm ... what else can you help? weapons? money? intervention? ... how can you help someone who looks at how people are being burned around him, crowds of demons with portraits of Nazis are walking, zigzag and screaming "moskalyaku gilyaku" .... how can you help RUSSIAN ???
          2. Nick
            Nick April 29 2018 07: 45
            +2
            Quote: mamertinets
            I will continue my comment. I told the Armenian folk tale not to ridicule the author of the article, although this moment is present, but to prevent the Russians from building terrible fictional fantasies for themselves and not making decisions based on fantastic and near-fantastic assumptions.

            In general, there is such a version that Kazakhstan, like other Central Asian republics, which never had their own statehood. By the will of fate and the red commissars, they were transformed into states, as it were, with the aim of gaining the USSR “extra” votes in the League of Nations, later the United Nations, but it did not work, unfortunately. The time has come to collect IMHO stones, until the excessive independence of some parts of Russia would lead us all to common tragic consequences for all.
          3. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 April 29 2018 12: 04
            +8
            Quote: mamertinets
            so that the Russians do not build terrible fictional fantasies for themselves and make a decision,

            The House of Trade Unions in Odessa a few years ago would have seemed fantastic. To play the national card in Kazakhstan - just spit. Well maybe two
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 April 28 2018 19: 17
          +12
          And you know that the Kazakhs ALREADY have an agreement with mattresses - ALLOWING them to fly reconnaissance aircraft along the border with Russia? am am Kazakhs ALREADY acted as our military opponents. The mattresses have already publicly declared us enemies, they almost inflict military strikes on our troops in Syria, and in such a situation it is impossible to "have friendly relations" with our neighbors who provide their territory for the mattresses under the MILITARY infrastructure. am It is necessary to have an unambiguous position - as soon as the country "has taken the side of the United States," it is necessary to "chop off (economic) ends" right there !! good The Baltic states are to dismantle the railroad, close the passage of heavy trucks, and prohibit the passage of aircraft from that direction. good It’s time to put forward our patrol boats on a regular basis to Svalbard on Svalbard, so that the Norwegians would even sneeze am good
          1. Nick
            Nick April 29 2018 07: 51
            +3
            Quote: Mih1974
            And you know that the Kazakhs ALREADY have an agreement with mattresses - ALLOWING them to fly reconnaissance aircraft along the border with Russia?

            I hasten to reassure you, Russia itself has given permission for the flights of American reconnaissance aircraft over its territory. Just like the United States, they gave permission for Russian intelligence. planes fly over their territory as part of the Open Sky program
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        5. Sidor Pyatnitsky
          Sidor Pyatnitsky 1 May 2018 22: 17
          +3
          You will have to answer, since you cannot understand the elementary questions in politics and consider the events of the past and the future through pink glasses ...
          Let me remind you that on March 17, 1991, a referendum was held in the USSR, in which the absolute majority voted to preserve the Union! None of the normal people (the rabid chantrap fed by the West, I do not take into account) could never have imagined that the Union had almost 5 months to live, really a little more, until December 1991.
          This is by the way about plans and laments, and about sarcastic conclusions like "the day after tomorrow, in general, Kazakhs will almost sell their homeland" ...
          Let me remind you of another recent case ...
          In the late 1990s, Ukraine was headed by a certain Leonid Kuchma, formerly the director of Yuzhmash. The man received the Lenin Prize, while the highest award in the country for labor merits, a man who had a brilliant prospect, at the age of 28 he became the technical manager of tests of the launch vehicle Cyclone-2 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
          But in 1999, it was born a plain-looking book of 100 pages - "Ukraine is not Russia."
          Just think of a little book, you never know what they write ...
          Yes, here’s the little book that has eaten the brain of an ordinary Ukrainian, turning its head 90 degrees (not 180 yet), as a result of which, destructive processes in the minds of the people began in Ukraine.
          And further according to the scenario written above (in the article) - by 2004 the biomass was already ready, to set fire to which was a matter of two minutes. The fiasco of Yushchenko is the excessive haste of the Americans, who decided that the ferment had already fermented. It did not work ... The people have not yet matured completely, and much has not been done. Well, by 2013, everything that was found unsatisfactory in 2004 was corrected, cookies, tents, weapons, equipment were brought up, some money was thrown up a tidy sum and ... things moved forward! Six months later, Ukraine was transformed into a fierce enemy of Russia !!!
          Such metamorphoses occur with the people, often not noticed from the household routine, with a simple homespun look.
          And after all, the Union was prepared for collapse in exactly the same way! Only there everything was much more complicated, but the people were prepared when he himself began to destroy what he himself had created and many generations. Armenia was no exception.
          And now try to translate this very Armenian parable into a modern language, into a modern reality. In 2001, when they first talked about whether there could be a war between Russia and Ukraine, people perceived such issues as an insult (in any case, in Russia for sure!). But after 15 years, exactly when the “democratic” generation grew up, this became quite possible!
          This is how history and politics are built ... So think harder before blaming the author!
        6. P0LYM
          P0LYM 2 May 2018 22: 05
          +3
          I will say this ... 3,14ndos will be pressed by both Kazakhs and Armenians ... and almost all will bend ... so that you want in vain the author ... few states ... or rather, I think only 3 now have the opportunity to conduct sovereign politics ... and don’t be offended, but neither Armenia, nor Kazakhstan.
      2. Berber
        Berber April 28 2018 08: 35
        +13
        I agree. Americans do nothing for nothing. But Narsultan Abishevich runs into trouble. America is far away, and we are next door. It is possible, following the example of the "West", to organize a color revolution.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 28 2018 09: 19
          +9
          Quote: BerBer
          I agree. Americans do nothing for nothing. But Narsultan Abishevich runs into trouble. America is far away, and we are next door. It is possible, following the example of the "West", to organize a color revolution.

          How? Nazarbayev is a tough authoritarian ruler, he repeatedly suppressed the speeches of certain groups in the blood. He even blocked this site in Kazakhstan. Previously, forum users from this country were frequent guests here. I do not defend the actions of the Kazakh leadership, it clearly takes anti-Armenian positions for the conflict in Karabakh. Russians have only one chance - to raise the Russian-speaking North. And this should not be done. The conflict will take on the character of interethnic, interreligious. There will be millions of refugees from both sides. Russia will receive another enemy in the person of Kazakhs and other Turkic-speaking peoples.
          As for Armenia, my country is mono-ethnic, it does not have common borders with you. The authorities in Armenia do not enjoy any support from the population at all. It will definitely change. It can only be saved by the entry of Russian troops under the guise of CSTO peacekeeping troops. The introduction of troops can stop the problem for a while. But not forever. But this can cause a clear split in the Armenian Armed Forces. Some military units have already joined the demonstrators. When foreign troops are brought into my country, it is quite possible that the Armenian army will speak in full or in part against the Russian forces. Armenia’s military units may not be large, but in military units there is a supply of weapons that the army could distribute to the population and organize resistance. In the future, if hostilities drag out, it is possible for the military to come out of Karabakh and the collapse of the front there. fire in Karabakh, recruits from Armenia make up 93-95 percent. As a result, you will receive a fierce They hate all Russian Armenians. It’s hard to believe now, but this option is also quite possible.
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist April 28 2018 10: 58
            +15
            Quote: mamertinets
            As a result, you will get enraged, hating all Russian Armenians. It’s hard to believe now.

            After Ukraine, it’s already hard to surprise
            1. NG inform
              NG inform April 30 2018 09: 31
              +2
              Not really. If you study history, then it is clear that hatred of Russia is the foundation of Ukraine, this is the only reason for its creation, on what this education is based and what it cannot move away from. This is a country where 90% are ethnic Russians (by genetic distance, origin, mixing). A person calling himself a Ukrainian - can easily discard the ideology of hatred (confrontation) of Russia and become a completely Russian person - and this will be natural. But to become an Italian, a German, a Czech - he will not succeed, no matter how he tries.
              Therefore, no, the Ukrainian is Russian, who is against Russia. Historically, this is a toponym, but since 1916 it has been a political orientation.
          2. already a Muscovite
            already a Muscovite April 28 2018 11: 48
            +10
            Armenia needs a railway from Russia to Iran, without this you even put Dumbledore on the post of prime minister, Armenia will still vegetate and impoverish ...
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets April 28 2018 12: 04
              +1
              Quote: already a Muscovite
              Armenia needs a railway from Russia to Iran, without this you even put Dumbledore on the post of prime minister, Armenia will still vegetate and impoverish ...

              There is a railway, it just passes through Abkhazia and, due to known reasons, it is inactive.
              1. already a Muscovite
                already a Muscovite April 28 2018 12: 43
                +3
                Well, until Russia-Armenia-Iran transit, there will be no clearance. I meant it.
          3. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 April 28 2018 11: 59
            +4
            Quote: mamertinets
            The authorities in Armenia do not enjoy any support among the population from the word at all. It will definitely change. It can only be saved by the entry of Russian troops under the guise of the CSTO peacekeeping forces. The introduction of troops can stop the problem for a while. But not forever. But this can cause a clear split in the armed forces. Armenia. A part of the military units have already joined the demonstrators. When foreign troops are brought into my country, it is quite possible that the Armenian army speaks in full or in part against the Russian forces. The number of military units opposed to the occupation of Armenia may be small, but there are stockpiles of weapons in the military units, which the army could distribute to the population and organize resistance. In the future, if hostilities drag out, it is possible for the military to come out of Karabakh and the front there to collapse. It’s no secret that draftees from Armenia make up 93-95 percent on the line of fire in Karabakh. As a result, you get angry, hating all Russian Armenians. It's hard to believe now, but tacos The th option is also quite possible.

            All this is the opinion of one person about the government and about the “further scenario”! ...
            We in Russia are starting and not singing like that ...
          4. Victor N
            Victor N April 28 2018 13: 44
            +5
            Yes, you understand within yourself. And defend yourself. Dreaming, warriors .... And the Armenian patriots in Russia mnoooooo.
          5. andj61
            andj61 April 28 2018 15: 26
            +10
            Quote: mamertinets
            The power in Armenia does not enjoy any support among the population from the word at all. It will definitely change.

            But what did you not do in the elections? Is Ukraine's example contagious?
            Quote: mamertinets
            Only the entry of Russian troops under the guise of the CSTO peacekeeping forces can save it. The introduction of troops can stop the problem for a while, but not forever.

            There will be no troop deployment - there is not the slightest sense. Conduct elections, choose those who are worthy and change power legally. Now this is being done outside the legal field, and this will only lead to a Ukrainization of the situation, to the unambiguous loss of Karabakh (but maybe this is for the better?), And further impoverishment of the people. In fact, now in Armenia there are fewer Armenians than in Russia, and in this case there will be no one left. request hi
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets April 28 2018 17: 35
              +1
              Quote: andj61
              Quote: mamertinets
              The power in Armenia does not enjoy any support among the population from the word at all. It will definitely change.

              But what did you not do in the elections? Is Ukraine's example contagious?
              Quote: mamertinets
              Only the entry of Russian troops under the guise of the CSTO peacekeeping forces can save it. The introduction of troops can stop the problem for a while, but not forever.

              There will be no troop deployment - there is not the slightest sense. Conduct elections, choose those who are worthy and change power legally. Now this is being done outside the legal field, and this will only lead to a Ukrainization of the situation, to the unambiguous loss of Karabakh (but maybe this is for the better?), And further impoverishment of the people. In fact, now in Armenia there are fewer Armenians than in Russia, and in this case there will be no one left. request hi

              Are you saying that there will be no Armenians in Armenia? Are you hoping that you will occupy the empty lands? The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Empire Lobanov-Rostovsky also hoped, speaking about the lands of the Ottoman Empire inhabited by Armenians: "We need Armenia without Armenians!" Well, got the lands of Kara, Bitlis, Erzrum, Trapezund vilayets and you Russians prosper there? This is our country and we are the masters in it.
              1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
                Crane operator Nahamkinson April 28 2018 17: 43
                +15
                I’ll never exchange my Sayans for the Armenian mountains.
                But you, the Armenians, exchange yours for the mountains with anything.
                Live in your armenia
                and further.
                And prosper.
                Just do not meddle with us.
                1. mamertinets
                  mamertinets April 28 2018 18: 26
                  +3
                  Thank you for your kind words! Armenians living in Armenia have a great duty to Armenians scattered all over the world - just as Jews were able to gradually gather Jews in Israel, so Armenians in Armenia must build such a state that the outflow of Armenians from Armenia first stops, and then the influx of Armenians into Armenia began.
                  1. Not in the system
                    Not in the system April 30 2018 14: 26
                    0
                    It’s not just that Armenians are called reserve Jews. No offense said.
              2. klm-57
                klm-57 April 29 2018 14: 10
                +1
                If the owners.
              3. Borders
                Borders 2 May 2018 12: 21
                0
                "... Well, the lands of Karsky, Bitlissky, Erzrumsky, Trebizond vilayets got and you Russians prosper there? ..." the fact of the matter is that the Turks always threw Russia. It will be the same with the C400 system and other flows: beckon and throw. yeah. and we, like suckers, go to their tomatoes.
          6. revnagan
            revnagan April 28 2018 18: 37
            +7
            Azerbaijan will immediately hit in the back, deciding that its time has come. The Armenian armed forces will fight mainly with Russian weapons, and where to replenish consumables is not clear. In such a situation, the question of the complete disappearance of Armenia as a state and Armenians as a people will very soon arise. from all this, once again, it can only ... Russia! So, no options.
            1. mamertinets
              mamertinets April 28 2018 20: 50
              +2
              Quote: revnagan
              Azerbaijan will immediately hit in the back, deciding that its time has come. The Armenian armed forces will fight mainly with Russian weapons, and where to replenish consumables is not clear. In such a situation, the question of the complete disappearance of Armenia as a state and Armenians as a people will very soon arise. from all this, once again, it can only ... Russia! So, no options.

              Armenia needs an economic breakthrough so that it can buy weapons from Russia in cash. You can’t imagine how personally I was ashamed when Russia gave another loan for weapons. Don’t worry, no Pashinyan can tear Russia away. He , I will not hide, he will conduct a more pro-Western policy than Serzh Sargsyan, but he will never give up the Russian military umbrella.
              1. gya456
                gya456 April 30 2018 17: 05
                +2
                Armenia needs an economic breakthrough so that it can buy weapons from Russia in cash. You can’t imagine how personally I was ashamed when Russia gave another loan for weapons. Don’t worry, no Pashinyan can tear Russia away. He , I will not hide, will conduct a more pro-Western policy than Serzh Sargsyan, but he will never give up the Russian military umbrella. [/ quote]
                Dear, to make an economic breakthrough, you need a platform from which you can push off, you do not have it. Pursue a pro-Western policy and not abandon the Russian military umbrella - yes this is the same as in Ukraine! They also wanted to sit on two chairs and see how it ended! Now the realities of the world are such that of course it is easier to spread to the camp of the strongest hegemon on the planet, spitting on your history (as the Ukrainians did), but I think this hegemon is also not eternal like all empires and will have to pay for everything, especially for treason - and the pro-Western path is will be a betrayal!
          7. serge siberian
            serge siberian April 29 2018 16: 00
            +4
            But how many Armenians have lived in Russia since the 80s-90s? Do they not take them into hostages, do these hot guys? Ahh forgot the end of the 80s Krasnoyarsk Paratrooper Day? If the Russian troops leave Armenia, then in 24 hours the Turks will trample all of Armenia. And Azerbaijan for its part it will help. This option (without Azerbaijan) was already a hundred years ago. Young people forgot there in your homeland, however. soldier
          8. P0LYM
            P0LYM 2 May 2018 22: 14
            0
            It can only be saved by the entry of Russian troops under the guise of the CSTO peacekeeping forces. The introduction of troops can stop the problem for a while

            And do not dream ...))) know what I would do? I would stop the entire Armenian business in my country, i.e. in Russia ... stopped ... from the word completely ...
          9. Berber
            Berber 3 May 2018 08: 25
            0
            Hello Karen. With all due respect, the problems of Armenia will not be solved by a change of power. We need deep integration in the post-Soviet space. The USSR cannot be restored, and it is not necessary. The Customs Union gave its results immediately after launch. To moderate the appetites of princes is a must. And not only in Armenia.
          10. werke326
            werke326 4 May 2018 10: 04
            0
            And why will you hate Russians? What did the Russians do to you? If you yourself cannot decide who will lead you and cannot escape a civil war, is that Russian? If you don’t choose us, then your politicians will sell you to the Americans, as happened with the socialist countries. camps in Europe, and these from America and the European Union will not count you for people and then try to show the people’s will and they’ll immediately disperse you to their homes. If you think that the people can rule the country, then you are deeply mistaken, it is the people who are ruled by people who are interested in one or another position, color revolutions have proved this. It is a pity that you do not understand the whole danger of these revolutions and go on it consciously, because when there is no power - no state, no state - no country, no country - no territory, no territory - no people. Now there is no need to destroy any people, he will destroy himself by choosing the wrong policy of government, as was the case with the USSR. I will not talk about the reasons, etc., for saving the drowning people, the business of the drowning people themselves, because if someone saves you, you will pay him anyway.
        2. Proxima
          Proxima April 28 2018 11: 38
          +14
          Quote: BerBer
          .. But Narsultan Abishevich runs into trouble. America is far away, and we are next door.

          Kazakhstan has historically developed a great chance to be a buffer zone between two (militarily) superpowers - China and Russia. Russia is vitally interested in the existence of such a state as Kazakhstan. What else does? Live and do not bother!
          But, no, the old senile also enters here a third party (USA). This will cause (to put it mildly) a negative reaction, both in China and especially in Russia.
          But what if, as stated in the article, Russia and the Middle Kingdom take and partition Kazakhstan? And no NATO will simply physically be able to prevent this!
          History tends to repeat itself and it would not hurt to remind the surviving leader of Kazakhstan what happens to states that wanted to sit on three chairs.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag April 30 2018 10: 16
            +1
            Quote: Proxima
            But, no, the old senile also enters here a third party (USA). This will cause (to put it mildly) a negative reaction, both in China and especially in Russia.

            And this is in contrast to China, the Russian Federation may be unhappy, but it has nothing to offer Kazakhstan, it itself makes concessions to China.
            1. Berber
              Berber 3 May 2018 08: 27
              +1
              As for the "offer" - it is said firmly. Most of Kazakhstan's trade is with Russia. Only Russia does not use this tool for ethical reasons.
        3. krops777
          krops777 April 28 2018 17: 31
          +1
          It is possible, following the example of the "West", to organize a color revolution.


          Unfortunately, we are not feeding the opposition, but the United States, Narsultan, and so moved if he did not bother to find a worthy successor.
        4. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 April 29 2018 12: 06
          0
          Quote: BerBer
          It is possible, following the example of the "West", to organize a color revolution.

          It seems that Military Review is a club of dreamers ...
      3. 73bor
        73bor April 30 2018 02: 18
        0
        Calm down first, analyze where and where the Americans need to carry something ?! A cloud of kilometers across two borders is still worthless from these bases to Afghanistan. There is no direct access, there are unfriendly US countries on three sides, they (the US) will think about these bases ten times, they would have to leave them with the rest, and then ... After all, maintaining the entire "economy" in the United States takes 50% of the military budget!
        1. In100gram
          In100gram 3 May 2018 20: 49
          0
          Quote: 73bor
          Calm down first, analyze where and where the Americans need to carry something ?! A cloud of kilometers across two borders is still worthless from these bases to Afghanistan. There is no direct access, there are unfriendly US countries on three sides, they (the US) will think about these bases ten times, they would have to leave them with the rest, and then ...

          Exactly. When transported from Ulyanovsk, probably not through Kazakhstan, but through the North Pole laughing They can more likely assume an interest in Priozersk and Kapyar, which looks more realistic, since they do not have a presence in the Caspian, and their technical capabilities are limited to monitor the tests at these test sites. but not logistics, definitely. Via Pakistan it’s more convenient.
    2. populist
      populist April 28 2018 07: 19
      +17
      andrewkor
      Wow, heaped up

      The author described everything correctly. In our politics, failure follows failure. Now, if Armenia falls into the hands of the United States, the anaconda loop will close and the situation will become extremely unfavorable. Urgent and decisive measures must be taken in these two decisive directions.
      1. dSK
        dSK April 28 2018 07: 38
        +7
        Russia gave Kazakhstan S-400. What else will Nursultan Abishevich beg for his “loyalty”?
        Can the threat of a visa regime slow down the process of drawing Kazakhstan into NATO?
        1. serge siberian
          serge siberian April 29 2018 16: 04
          0
          Well, you’ve bent! Kazakhstan, he is, in the "Customs Union and the CSTO and the CIS" in. hi
        2. Bongo
          Bongo April 30 2018 05: 41
          +5
          Quote: dsk
          Russia gave Kazakhstan C-400.

          There was no such thing. No. Do not confuse with the old C-300PS built in the middle of the 80-x.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ April 28 2018 07: 56
        +3
        Quote: populist
        Now, if more Armenia falls into US hands

        How do you imagine this for yourself? In Armenia, people are "hot", of course, but not so much as to give up their future.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 28 2018 08: 03
          +11
          What does the Foreign Ministry have to do with this ??? and how can he change something by turning inside out sales?
          The country's top leadership is concerned ..... but what is it concerned about! What can we really write him a plus?
          It is unfortunate that the scales with a plus sign. globally outweighs all the pluses that can be given to the ruling elite!
          If anyone thinks, sho fl not fall all over again on our "hump", fl full naive!
          1. Not in the system
            Not in the system April 30 2018 14: 35
            +1
            A long time to attend to. And inside out, too, it’s time to turn around for a long time. The USA around the world, in all countries, has a fifth column, without having its own state-forming ethnos (being essentially an ethnic vinaigrette - the Anglo-Saxons no longer prevail there), Israel also has fifth columns around the world that instantly go from sleeping to active . Why Russians, who are also settled around the world, do not want to do as the USA or as Israel (to have their fifth column in all states and to feed this fifth column)?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 1 May 2018 22: 47
              +2
              I do not know. who really builds the policy of the country ... and so they must turn inside out! And the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as soon as so immediately!
        2. populist
          populist April 28 2018 09: 19
          +6

          EwgenyZ (Eugene)
          Quote: populist
          Now, if more Armenia falls into US hands

          How do you imagine this for yourself? In Armenia, people are "hot", of course, but not so much as to give up their future.

          We abandoned our future in 1993 and 1996. crying , least. There are enough idiots everywhere. fool
        3. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad April 28 2018 20: 56
          +4
          An example of hot hoh.lov before the eyes.
      3. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b April 28 2018 08: 00
        +12
        Russia has already shown its weakness to China by transferring large territories in Siberia, including Lake Baikal, to its use, thereby tempering the Chinese side for supporting our foreign policy, or rather for silence about this. This is what the pursuit of green cut paper and easy carefree life has turned for Rogssia. Destroyed enterprises, overgrown fields and gardens, in power are organized crime groups .. Greedy motives prevail in the heads. For that fought for it and ran. The experience of Libya is very relevant for us!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 28 2018 08: 43
          +4
          According to my colleague, Red Kommisar, damned capitalism!
        2. free
          free April 28 2018 09: 07
          +8
          Could you give more details about Baikal and Siberia?
          1. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b April 28 2018 13: 38
            +7
            Free “GREEN PAGE”: https://pavel-pashkov.ru/zelenaya-stranitsa/ An expedition is being prepared to shoot a film on the problems of Siberian forests, starting in June 2018
            Take a look at Baikal, there is such a girl in Irkutsk, Julia Ivanets, she has first-hand material:.Attention! Chinese intervention. Need help saving the Sacred Lake Baikal!
            In 2017, the Duma adopted a law on the ASEZs (Territories of Operational Development, to attract investors, in particular from China. They take everything they want and do the same. They can expel, including the indigenous population, if it interferes with them. Laws The Russian Federation does not operate there.The law was signed by the Guarantor of the Constitution.
            In May, a Japanese will come and start a wash about the Kuril Islands! Very interesting moment !!! The TOP is also planned there. Rent for 49 years. In Russia itself, there is silence about this; Syria is more widely heard.
            1. dSK
              dSK April 28 2018 19: 26
              +1
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              In May, a Japanese will come and start a wash about the Kuril Islands! The TOP is also planned there. 49 year rental
              This is how many thousands of Russia roll away ....
              1. Evgeniy667b
                Evgeniy667b April 30 2018 12: 13
                +1
                Neither you, nor most of the others, well, definitely will not fall.
            2. free
              free April 28 2018 19: 40
              +2
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              Free “GREEN PAGE”: https://pavel-pashkov.ru/zelenaya-stranitsa/ An expedition is being prepared to shoot a film on the problems of Siberian forests, starting in June 2018
              Take a look at Baikal, there is such a girl in Irkutsk, Julia Ivanets, she has first-hand material:.Attention! Chinese intervention. Need help saving the Sacred Lake Baikal!
              In 2017, the Duma adopted a law on the ASEZs (Territories of Operational Development, to attract investors, in particular from China. They take everything they want and do the same. They can expel, including the indigenous population, if it interferes with them. Laws The Russian Federation does not operate there.The law was signed by the Guarantor of the Constitution.
              In May, a Japanese will come and start a wash about the Kuril Islands! Very interesting moment !!! The TOP is also planned there. Rent for 49 years. In Russia itself, there is silence about this; Syria is more widely heard.

              Thanks, I’ll take a look.
            3. Borders
              Borders 2 May 2018 12: 22
              0
              and the Armenians are to blame for this too?
        3. BazarbaiKZ Bazarov
          BazarbaiKZ Bazarov April 28 2018 20: 49
          +3
          About Siberia and Baikal - proofs in the studio
        4. aiden
          aiden April 29 2018 04: 58
          +3
          facts about Siberia and Lake Baikal is possible ?. And then the uncle lives there, and does not know anything that the Chinese occupied him. I know where you get this nonsense from, and I know who composes it.
          1. Not in the system
            Not in the system April 30 2018 14: 44
            +1
            Well, I live in Siberia. I have facts before my eyes. The most active deforestation in the Krasnoyarsk Territory is conducted by the Chinese. Recently I traveled from one district center of the Krasnoyarsk Territory to another (neighboring) district center. By car - it takes 40 minutes. During these 40 minutes I counted 38 full timber trucks with round logs passing by. (In 40 MINUTES, Karl !!!) This whole forest went to a reception point in Kansk, from where it is shipped to the railway and goes straight to China. Now imagine the scale of cutting down at such a pace.
            1. Borders
              Borders 2 May 2018 12: 23
              0
              are the Armenians really to blame?
              1. Not in the system
                Not in the system 2 May 2018 16: 50
                +1
                It's about the Chinese. I mean the answer.
        5. Not in the system
          Not in the system April 30 2018 14: 38
          +1
          We are ordinary people to do with it. These are nits that have grown in the party and the GB since the mid-fifties and are especially active in the sixties.
      4. Winnie76
        Winnie76 April 28 2018 09: 10
        +7
        Quote: populist
        Now, if Armenia falls into the hands of the United States, the anaconda loop will close and the situation will become extremely unfavorable. Urgent and decisive measures must be taken in these two decisive directions.

        Armenia risks its existence - Russia with its base. And who should take "decisive action"? Who should fight for the existence of this very base - us or they? This is from the Belarusian series - such as "we must pay for the allies."
        Well, Kazakhstan is just another country in the line for cookies. Like an ally when you need to get money. And Russia will fight in splendid isolation.
        1. populist
          populist April 28 2018 09: 29
          0

          Winnie76
          Armenia risks its existence - Russia with its base. And who should take "decisive action"? Who should fight for the existence of this very base - us or they?

          Both the first and second.
          Well, Kazakhstan is just another country in the line for cookies

          And on the hands!
      5. syndicalist
        syndicalist April 28 2018 11: 00
        +4
        Quote: populist
        In our politics, failure follows failure

        What are you saying? We have "the strongest foreign minister in history." I’m silent about the president
        1. Borders
          Borders 2 May 2018 12: 24
          0
          Well, what did Lavrov of Russia do so much harm?
      6. Ksr82
        Ksr82 April 28 2018 12: 06
        +8
        It is necessary to take retaliatory measures not in these 2 directions, but to begin to change the situation radically. Who works the second number will never win. Even in judo. As an option - urgently need to start work inside the country. While Usmanov’s yacht is comparable in price to the cost of TARK’s upgrading Peter the Great, and the Russian people are working out rents to the West through English residents who have seized our bowels ... - what kind of opposition to the west can we talk about ??? It hits like the other, and the second is afraid to answer in full force (although snarls), because it takes money from the first. It is necessary to reformat the system radically! Yes, it will be painful.
      7. 73bor
        73bor April 30 2018 02: 29
        0
        All this can be called whatever you like and start out of fear urinating together in your pants! For me, as a former military, these bases are divorced from the main forces, which do not have the support of other bases lying far from the supply routes, there is no sense in putting them there, it will turn out an isolated theater of war not a single aircraft carrier can be brought there, even with the strongest desire!
    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 28 2018 12: 48
      +3
      Karaulvsepropalo !!! belay And the fact that we do not have our own state-owned emission bank and that American aviation does not pay for flying over the territory of Russia, they monitor us under the "clear skies" program, and we disarmed voluntarily unilaterally, annually annihilate the Russian Federation with forfeits under the WTO, and introduced into education " lap-dog and "normalize medicine" is that good? Well, who sets an example for whom? winked Or in Kazastan those are the same capitalism as in Russia?
      1. Dry
        Dry April 30 2018 14: 02
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        And the fact that we do not have our own state issuing bank

        Each country has its own Central Bank and it makes emissions, it is necessary to learn how to do this correctly. Then there will be “no money, but you hold on”, and there will be “enough, enough, already the tenth aircraft carrier ... - she needs it, these are jobs, etc.”
    4. iouris
      iouris April 28 2018 16: 16
      +4
      If the Americans create a base in the Caspian, then the Russian Foreign Ministry is not needed at all.
    5. Dam
      Dam April 28 2018 16: 30
      +2
      Kazakhs have already denied information about the placement of bash
    6. bang
      bang 4 May 2018 21: 18
      0
      Unfortunately, the work of the Foreign Ministry comes down to manifestations of concern. Zakharova easily cope with such a "job."
      Americans hold Nursultan tightly for financial capital. And that baudot, fearing the influence of the Russian Federation and China, himself gave his .. price to the hands of amers.
      Nursultan is an old man, with his departure to another world, a mess in the Republic of Kazakhstan will begin, the Americans are preparing places for themselves in the front row, they will drive popcorn through the Caspian.
      Headache "Ukraine-2" provided.
  2. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii April 28 2018 05: 45
    +14
    If this is true, then it’s time to launch Cuba instead of Berlaga, and talk hard with Kazakhstan, using all leverage, of course, if they remain. They don’t finish something, it seems that the Kazakhs have done something else. There will be no defense measures, I have no doubt, let them urgently and clearly decide what to do with the Russian-speaking population, and there seem to be issues with the border territories.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen April 28 2018 06: 50
      +6
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      If this is true, then it’s time to launch Cuba instead of Berlaga, and talk hard with Kazakhstan, using all leverage, of course, if they remain. They don’t finish something, it seems that the Kazakhs have done something else. There will be no defense measures, I have no doubt, let them urgently and clearly decide what to do with the Russian-speaking population, and there seem to be issues with the border territories.


      It’s almost too late ...

      Late to drink Borjomi - the kidneys have already fallen off!

      Kazakhstan has already quietly so profuca ....
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco April 28 2018 07: 31
        +7
        Quote: Titsen
        Kazakhstan has already quietly so profuca ....

        Of course, I want to not believe in it, but we will wait as they say although we have been going for this for a long time, and we got slaps on both cheeks in Armenia and Kazakhstan, who will strike in the stomach? Although what is there to guess on the coffee grounds? As in life, only relatives inflict vile blows.
        Now on the topic, I went to one Kazakh newspaper and there an article was offered for discussion about Solovyov, Zhirinovsky, etc., about the Latin alphabet, and the US base, if that’s true what they are writing about, then it’s not the business of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan to respond to the statements of Solovyov, Limonov , Zhirinovsky, as it fell low the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of this republic.
        We go further, the author of the article focuses on the fact that the Russian people are not satisfied with Putin’s actions on the external theater of war, they say they are expected to attack the enemy, the people are demanding, and the authorities are hiding, from this I conclude that this was what was expected in Syria, Armenia, and Kazakhstan, and are waiting for a military confrontation to unleash a war.
        For Kazakhstan, and even for the West, the risk lies in the fact that sooner or later a more radical person than the current president may come to power in Russia. And there will not be without proposals to strike at America, send troops to Ukraine and reach Kiev or annex the northern regions of Kazakhstan.

        Well, about the modern capital of Kazakhstan, and the northern territories, I have repeatedly said that this was done specifically with a distant eye. Nursultanchik had long been planning to leave Russia, I think so, of course, I could be mistaken, we don’t know the whole backstage.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ April 28 2018 08: 00
          +5
          Quote: Sirocco
          who will strike under the breath?

          Most likely, Alexander Grogoryevich. He has not yet been noted in this field.
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 28 2018 17: 22
        +3
        Okay, we’ll agree with the “profukali”. And what should be done so as not to “foul”? Now there will be slogans - to work with those, with those, etc., etc. But, this requires funds and not small ones. That is, in FIG Russian students and pensioners, and we will pay the Kazakhs for love. Fuck such love and those allies. Eyes blur?
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ April 28 2018 08: 14
      +10
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      and to speak with Kazakhstan harshly, using all levers of influence, of course, if they remain.

      It is not only Kazakhstan that needs to be toughened up there, all this "five" have been asking for a "brick" for a long time, they played into independence. It is high time to “dot all the I's”, and ours is all about “partnership, some kind, and good neighborliness.”
    3. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 April 28 2018 11: 55
      +1
      Do you propose making a film Kazakhstan Way to Homeland?
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 28 2018 20: 37
        +10
        There are levers for easier, for us it is cheaper and more tangible - the economy. To begin with, ban any transit from the sanctions countries (which imposed sanctions against us) to the Central Asian countries. What a bummer. Yes, they will find a way through Georgia, Azerbaijan, the Caspian. But, travel time, logistics, price tag wrapping. They will not cry, they will howl. And on board the EurAsEC. There are Russia's interests in the first place. Trump is doing the right thing, he is rushing with a drill, an economic drill, even against the allies. We were too right with them, we lived according to the rules, but it was necessary according to the concepts. Then they will feel, vote against Russia, you will get a hole in your budget, ruined by your entrepreneurs. Also with Lukashenko.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn April 29 2018 03: 00
          +6
          Recently, there is a buildup in the internet of the topic about Kazakhstan ...
          Article stuffed stuff. negative
          There is a charter of the CSTO, which prohibits the deployment of bases, not members, without the consent of the council. There is a convention on the Caspian .... Ulyanovsk covered, mattresses need, like the north of Afghanistan, to supply? On the line, partnership with NATO, Kazakhstan is not prohibited. Moreover, without our knowledge, such things are not done. wink
          People are not fooled, there is a "nationalist fuss." negative
          To everyone who is interested about the situation in Kazakhstan ... I can advise, write in a personal, comrade Kasym. Any links, the person owns the info.
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag April 30 2018 10: 22
          0
          Quote: Okolotochny
          There are levers for easier, for us it is cheaper and more tangible - the economy. To begin with, ban any transit from the sanctions countries (which imposed sanctions against us) to the Central Asian countries.

          An oil pipe goes from Russia to China through Kazakhstan; there, in this case, an “accident” can also happen.
  3. ava09
    ava09 April 28 2018 05: 48
    +9
    Quote: andrewkor
    Wow, heaped up, scary, already terrible! Time will tell, the work of the Foreign Ministry has increased!

    Unfortunately, this is reality, not the author’s imagination. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs adds to itself, however, like the entire occupation power ... Moreover, the work is ungrateful, because all these situations are created by wrong actions, and more often by inaction. The only thing the government succeeds in is the stable financing of its sovereign, supranational financial mafia.
  4. cedar
    cedar April 28 2018 05: 57
    +11
    In no case should we forget the Ukrainian rake.
    Now it’s not possible to imagine a war between Russia and Kazakhstan, but to be prepared for the fact that the arrogant Saxons will unmask Kazakhstan, as they have unmasked Vukraina, is vital.
    We see at the root of the policy of naglosaksov "divide and rule", dear ...
    1. Deck
      Deck April 28 2018 06: 44
      +9
      Why do we need enemies when we ourselves can spoil relations with our neighbors. For example, the author of the article Kuznetsov:
      An extreme version of the active response is the partition of Kazakhstan and the return of its northern regions to the Russian Federation in order to push the American military component as far away from the current Russian borders and industrial centers of the Urals and Siberia


      I would like to remind the author of Russian laws. Article 354 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Public calls for an aggressive war are punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to two years, or by imprisonment for a term of up to three years.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 28 2018 08: 06
        +7
        Okay, you can impose a fine on the author, probably? And for those who "rule" from above? Shaw we do it?
        I mean that we, as it were, "entrusted" to them the management of the country and our life, too !!!
      2. Not in the system
        Not in the system April 30 2018 15: 02
        0
        And he calls chtoli? And what, in general, is more important - land or people? In the northern and eastern regions of Kazakhstan, Russians have always lived. They are to blame for what Kazakhs were slaughtered in these lands?
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 April 28 2018 08: 07
      +7
      See the root !!! Is the policy of our government really different ??? in relation to our people in particular!
  5. dog breeder
    dog breeder April 28 2018 05: 59
    +7
    Another transshipment base for traffic. Interestingly, Nazarbayev in share?
    1. Titsen
      Titsen April 28 2018 06: 54
      +9
      Quote: dog breeder
      Another transshipment base for traffic. Interestingly, Nazarbayev in share?


      It is rhetorical.

      But I will answer briefly - I’m sure, YES!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ April 28 2018 09: 27
        +2
        Quote: Titsen
        sure, yes!

        Sure NO!
        why share? when it is possible to freeze the accounts of the welfare fund of Kazakhstan under a far-fetched pretext ......
    2. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 2 May 2018 10: 41
      0
      He’s not so much in proportion - he just squeezed 22 lard in the USA and holds it like eggs ...
      And then how not to get around - you will do what they order ...
  6. ML-334
    ML-334 April 28 2018 06: 31
    +4
    It seems that the Kazakhs are intermingled with the northern territories. The USSR was so arranged that territorial "mines" were laid down everywhere. It’s one thing when some activist gave a fellow countryman for just and completely different when the ancestors shed blood for her and this sits in us. So gentlemen, the Kazakhs You can start screaming, "America is with us!" or are you already screaming?
  7. gorenina91
    gorenina91 April 28 2018 07: 20
    +5
    -It would be realistic to place the S-400 in Omsk (near Omsk) ... -this long border with Kazakhstan ... Yes, there are many more Kazakhs in Omsk and the Omsk region than anywhere else in Russia ... and their numbers are increasing literally exponentially ... -In general, in the Omsk region, it is necessary to deploy entire "fortified areas" with serious aviation, missile structures, motorized infantry and tank units (the Omsk tank school is clearly not enough) ...
    -In general ...- it’s somehow strange ... -in Kazakhstan, ethnic Russians in the power structures of Kazakhstan ...- are literally units ... and in Omsk and Omsk region ethnic Kazakhs are in the power structures ... - Literally almost half of the entire personnel ... -It immediately catches the eye ... -Maybe Omsk is already part of Kazakhstan and is under its jurisdiction ..? - What can happen when the "Latin-speaking" Kazakhstan legally places NATO bases on its territory, or even ... ... becomes a member of NATO ..? - Today it has become quite real ...
    1. dSK
      dSK April 28 2018 07: 46
      +2
      Quote: gorenina91
      What can happen when “Latin-speaking” Kazakhstan legally places NATO bases on its territory?

      In this case, Russia will be cut "in half" and China will strengthen the "development" of Siberia.
  8. Chichikov
    Chichikov April 28 2018 07: 44
    +1
    Cool said, but without regard to reality! Kazakhstan is in “hedgehogs”, and it can be said “between a rock and a hard place” - in fact, between the two world leaders, China and Russia. And that says it all - Americans, ..., Papuans and other prospects have no!
    1. dSK
      dSK April 28 2018 07: 53
      +4
      Quote: Chichikov Papuans
      and they have no other prospects!

      “We will throw our hats”, in a foreign territory “little blood”, it already was. Only the "authors" of these slogans for some reason "put" to the wall.
    2. gorenina91
      gorenina91 April 28 2018 09: 31
      +8
      -What kind of "hedgehogs" is Kazakhstan ..? -Today, really "one half of Kazakhstan" belongs to "the USA, and the other ...- to China ... -That’s the whole" alignment "...
      -And if you take into account the "bitter experience" of Ukraine and New Russia .., where in fact two monolingual people clashed not for life but for death .., then with Kazakhstan, if God forbid something "similar happens" ... -this whole "tragedy" should be multiplied at times ... -And the United States and China will make every effort to inflate all this to a large outbreak and drive Russia out of this region altogether ... -A "Latin" is the first "American bell" ... -the second bell ...- this is the vast Kazakh territory leased to China for a long-term ... -Or vice versa ...- the "first bell" was Chinese ... -no difference ... -Main thing .., that Russia is no longer participating in this "theater" in general ... its "bell" may no longer ring ... at all ...
      1. Chichikov
        Chichikov April 28 2018 14: 04
        +2
        Quote: gorenina91
        Today, in reality, "one half of" Kazakhstan "belongs to" the USA, and the other ...- to China ...
        What are you? And to which part are the northern, virgin regions - mainly Russian-speaking? By the way, these lands, before the Soviet regime, were never part of Kazakhstan! However, territorially, Kazakhstan was created artificially, already under the Soviet regime!
        1. gorenina91
          gorenina91 April 28 2018 15: 04
          +6
          -Well, you realized ... -What fell with a cart ... then ... -Now only bite your elbows ...
          -Of course ... -There were no "Kazakh lands" ... -More civilized Uzbeks gradually drove to the north, in the steppe, various tribes of the Kara-Kyrgyz, who had neither written language, nor literature, nor architecture .. or scientific potential ... -By the way, many Ural Siberian peoples were also once quite numerous, but then they were driven out far to the north and turned into reindeer breeders ... -Yukagirs, Karagas, Evenki and so on ... -Well and the Kara-Kyrgyzs were much luckier ... -First, the Russian Empire stood up for them and saved them ... and then completely ...- the Bolsheviks gave them vast territory and even a new nationality appeared ...- Kazakhs ... - True, the echoes of the past have remained ... -the juses have been preserved (the zhuzes ... -the three zhuzes ... -the older, middle, younger ...) ...
          1. Chichikov
            Chichikov April 28 2018 15: 09
            +2
            I support ... but, there is nothing eternal in the world. Time will repeatedly redraw borders and the history of mankind is a confirmation of this.
      2. Victor N
        Victor N April 28 2018 15: 12
        +2
        "Latin" is a very tricky bomb that will ruin Kazakhstan! The main thing is not to miss your interest.
  9. Opera
    Opera April 28 2018 08: 42
    +6
    They are trying to convince us that everything has disappeared constantly and for a long time. Of course, you have to watch Kazakhstan ... Many questions. The fact that the Kazakhs urgently needed the Latin ... But listen really, the fact that many of our once-union republics with such lust look towards the West should lead us to dust our heads ?! Remember, the whole social camp ran up to them in exactly the same way! Let's face it, all such countries are waiting exclusively for money, cheap energy and other freebies ... There are not enough weeks to give examples! They trade in sovereignty, alliance, even friendship! Tell me, do we need such purchases? Are we going to splurge on this?
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 28 2018 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: Oper
      We will spend money on it

      if it is profitable, then we will!
      we are already doing this!
      in exchange for loyalty (not the appearance of US bases), we open our market to guest workers, etc.
      1. Opera
        Opera April 28 2018 09: 56
        +1
        This is for what ?!
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ April 28 2018 10: 10
          +3
          Quote: Oper
          for which

          Well, for example, for Armenia. almost the entire “road-building” business was given to the Armenian diaspora.
          Uzbekistan, Tajikistan - migrant workers ... etc.
          1. Opera
            Opera April 28 2018 10: 33
            +2
            This is just a very strong lever of influence. As for the Uzbeks, they work with Tajiks, as you know, in the lowest paid and most unpopular positions among the local population. But this is certainly also a lever of influence. But this is not an exchange for loyalty, but rather a completely natural process. Undoubtedly, Russia can exert strong pressure in this regard. You still forgot about Ukrainians and Azerbaijanis.
  10. solovald
    solovald April 28 2018 08: 44
    +4
    And how did it suddenly our molded friends and comrades planted a pig for us? That's the question! Kazakhs, Armenians ... who is next? Old Man? Taki let their foreign policy drift. By the way, Ukraine was also missed in due time ...
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 28 2018 09: 20
      +2
      Quote: solovald
      how is it suddenly

      maybe remember, a month ago, the United States seized the assets of Kazakhstan, almost all the gold reserves and the money of the welfare fund of Kazakhstan ... what was it to do? declare default? the tenge would have collapsed, Kazakhs staged a maidan and ...... a US military base would have appeared anyway in the Caspian ... another thing is that a maidan in Kazakhstan will still be .... but later ... we won a little time ...
    2. Opera
      Opera April 28 2018 09: 54
      +7
      We missed the point ... Whether someone likes it or not, our two bases in Armenia are needed first of all by the Armenians themselves. If they do not understand this, then certainly it is their personal business. Armenia does not represent any strategic strategic significance for us. America needs Armenia exclusively for pressure on Iran and Turkey. At the same time, it would be nice for the Armenians to read American field manuals. US troops creating and strengthening their bases on foreign territory do not guarantee security to the native population. The destabilized situation in the country where the American base is located and the impoverished population for the Anglo-Saxons is it! Ukrainian happiness, we are all watching. Kazakhstan ... Americans simply blocked accounts with Kazakhs ... Let them also study field regulations. Bypassing Kazakhstan, railroads have long and quietly been built if anyone does not know ... Do you not see how the Belarusian authorities are building relations with Russia? They gave us the opportunity to put the Air Force base? No - give them planes and they have the best pilots! Why the best pilots do not help us in Syria is unknown! Where are they the best if you don’t especially turn over Belarus? In short, give the planes and all. Not even for cheap, sell, but give! Well, the fact that Belarus has simply become a great trading power is a fact! Azerbaijanis nervously smoke on the sidelines! Remember smuggling on Malaya Arnautskaya in Odessa? Belarus just learned the expression of rebranding on the quiet!
      When will we get rid of this blessed garbage in relation to the former republics of the Union? It is much cheaper and more reliable to provide your own army and navy. than feed the windy allies!
    3. Antares
      Antares April 28 2018 11: 40
      +5
      Quote: solovald
      Taki let the foreign policy drift

      how so they wrote
      Russian President Vladimir Putin goes from one success to another. This can no longer be ignored and not recognized by almost all of his opponents. But the most interesting thing is that he has achieved this in the most non-standard and, as time has shown, in the most effective way for a modern politician.
      Posted by Yuri Podolyaka (Yurasumy)

      and foreign policy was rated at 5+, they complained that evil boyars interfere with liberals within the country.
      Unfortunately this is no longer funny. Publications with warnings and adverse events are increasing, and in the same place, the flow of articles on "brilliant victories on the fronts of foreign policy" is also increasing.
      The West always plays long. We cannot even keep the country from double decays in a hundred years.
  11. parma
    parma April 28 2018 09: 03
    +4
    As for me, the United States in Central Asia is strengthening its position not for pressure on us (well, not primarily for sure, the western direction and the Caucasus are enough for us), but for China ... China now has 2 zones of great influence - Africa and Central Asia .. Kazakhstan has long wanted to rush into the arms of a world factory, and eastern Kazakhstan can already be said to be the domain of China ... Just behind the screen of this mythical Russia-West confrontation, they are silent about China ...
  12. BAI
    BAI April 28 2018 09: 07
    +3
    Because, for example, we also have no aircraft carriers in the Caspian, and large surface ships of other types.

    Why big ships in the Caspian? Everything is under the full control of aviation.
    1. populist
      populist April 28 2018 09: 45
      +3
      BAI
      Why big ships in the Caspian? Everything is under the full control of aviation.

      Accurate remark. And there are a lot of aircraft in Kazakhstan that can be caught up with with nasty financial capabilities.
  13. masff2307
    masff2307 April 28 2018 09: 12
    +5
    It would be nice, through the CSTO, to invite Narsultan Abishevich to answer to all CSTO representatives both for the LATIN and FOR ALL HELP TO THE WEST ...
    1. Standard
      Standard April 28 2018 18: 51
      +1
      Quote: masff2307
      to answer to all representatives of the CSTO and for the LATIN

      Do you think this is someone else's business?
      It’s a pity that the Kazakhs are numb. But - as in Ukraine - a lot will depend on the parents.
      That is, the alphabet will become a family affair - as it was with Arabic in the USSR. (The Quran is to be read only in Arabic)
  14. NEOZ
    NEOZ April 28 2018 09: 15
    0
    perhaps this base is directed not against Russia (although of course it affects security), but against Iran, for the blockade of Iran and the control of the trade route in the Caspian ... Maybe this is an anaconda’s loop, but first of all against Iran!
    1. Standard
      Standard April 28 2018 18: 48
      +1
      Quote: NEOZ
      perhaps this base is not directed against Russia

      Who cares against whom ????
      Why let all shit go into the inland waters (USA)?
  15. AleBors
    AleBors April 28 2018 09: 25
    +8
    Again, as expected. They spat on the lips of another neighbor .. Nursultan crossed. Prepares a beautiful retirement. And I’m sure some fierce Russophobe will replace him as president. He already goes on an internship somewhere at Harvard ...
    Just before the inauguration, they liquidated themselves ... request Well, what, the choice was made ... wassat
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 28 2018 10: 16
      +4
      Quote: AleBors
      Well, what, the choice was made ...

      yes yes, this choice was made in 1985 ... now there are consequences of this choice .....
  16. exo
    exo April 28 2018 10: 12
    +6
    This is the result of work, diplomats and the country's leadership over the past 20 years. Russia, all alone.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 28 2018 13: 10
      +4
      Quote: exo
      all alone.

      better than in the 90s, the whole world is our friends!
    2. Standard
      Standard April 28 2018 18: 42
      +3
      Quote: exo
      This is the result of work, diplomats and the country's leadership over the past 20 years.

      Unfortunately.
      In the Foreign Ministry - one Lavrov. It’s time for Zakharov to drive, but there is no one to replace him.
      And the chairman of the government - with a lack of legal thinking? He claims to have even taught Roman law. Looks like they taught.
      What about the journalists? Brainless Skabeev with his "jokes", always meaning scandal.
      Still, some kind of operation is carried out, sad for us.
  17. Playerman
    Playerman April 28 2018 10: 22
    +8
    It seems that those present at the military center are degraded and crushed. Everyone imagines himself, well, if not a strategist, then an awesome political scientist and iksperd sitting in front of the monitor and poking buttons. Do you even go outside? At least go to other countries? I meant the near abroad. Judging by the comments there are very few of these. Not commentators, but bazaar grandmas. Have you put on skirts? "Kazakhstan belongs to China and America." How many of you live in Kazakhstan now? AND? Blah blah blah solid. Indeed, the minuses were canceled and iksperdy were trampled on with a slogan cliche. And to whom does the Russian Federation belong? Googling and reading, and look in YouTube who are mastering the Far East and Lake Baikal. And remember when the Russian Federation provided mattresses with airfields for logistics. "ASTANA, Apr 26 - Sputnik. The Embassy of Kazakhstan in Russia commented on the news about the use by the US Navy of Kazakhstani ports on the Caspian Sea."- The diplomatic mission said that these data and reports on the opening of US military bases in Kazakhstan are fake.

    The reason for the appearance of false information on the Internet and the media was the protocol on amendments to the bilateral Kazakh-American agreement, signed on June 20, 2010.

    Title of the document “Agreement between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Republic of Kazakhstan on the provision of commercial railway transit of special cargo through the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan in connection with the participation of the United States of America in efforts to stabilize and restore the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.” In the Bible in the New Testament, it is well written: "What do you look at a speck in your brother’s eye, but you don’t notice a log in your hypocrite. Hypocrite, remove a log from your eye and see how to remove a speck from your brother’s eye."
    1. Opera
      Opera April 28 2018 10: 39
      +3
      And to whom do the Netherlands belong?
      1. Playerman
        Playerman April 28 2018 11: 17
        +3
        I wrote before, in our city, the VO does not open. The provider says the site is prohibited, but on the state. site in the list of banned it is not. I go to VO through a proxy. I live in Kazakhstan, so trolling failed hi
        1. Opera
          Opera April 28 2018 11: 31
          +3
          No trolling! What are you ?! Do you know everything ?! But we are old women and we don’t go anywhere, we’re sitting ... Here you are, my dear man, I’ve been everywhere and asked for old women! Now you have explained everything - and Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation belong to China? Or only Russia? So we are with ZEML I K AND!))))) Or not? True, you also say that you belong to America ... Or not either. Sorry, your idea is not very understood. Well, really not proud! What pride and trolling can be between fellow countrymen ?! What city are you from, fellow countryman? I am from Moscow?
          1. Opera
            Opera April 28 2018 11: 48
            +5
            Well, since you from Kazakhstan wanted to ask you - why did Kazakhstan refrain from supporting the draft Russian resolution in the UN Security Council? And Russia so lobbied, so lobbied Kazakhstan for the election of non-permanent members of the Security Council ... They say the question of Russia's support for Kazakhstan was discussed even at the meetings of Putin and Nazarbayev? Or is that normal all? What do you think?
            1. Playerman
              Playerman April 28 2018 12: 00
              +5
              Do not puff up, otherwise you will burst. "Sorry, your idea is not very understood." He wrote for the understanding. I’m not repeating it twice. Judging by the comments, I’m not your countryman (Thank God). About the fact that Kazakhstan belongs to America and China, it was your countrymen who wrote. This is from their words. Apparently you do not read everything, so not in the subject. Do you endorse your government? For all their actions and words? Say yes, lie. So we do not agree with everything. The people are not responsible for the feints of the ruler, but only they always make the people extreme, and some not distant individuals begin to throw on the fan. I live in Aktau (Shevchenko)
              1. Opera
                Opera April 28 2018 12: 13
                +3
                Well, so straight so sharp ?! Grandmas, skirts, puff, burst, not a fellow countryman, and thank God for that ... Not seriously. Why all this ?! I have not blamed the people of Kazakhstan, and even here I don’t see such accusations especially! And I’m not going to call you to account for the power of Kazakhstan. I asked you what you think about this? You live in Kazakhstan, and not in the Netherlands, who else should I ask? You try to react somehow more calmly. I also wanted to ask you about the Latin alphabet ... I think this is nonsense in general! What for?
                1. Playerman
                  Playerman April 28 2018 13: 00
                  +10
                  If offended, I sincerely apologize. It’s boiling up, it's already the second day of ..... the stuffing is on, but here people behave like a schoolboy. The government of the Republic of Kazakhstan has denied the rumors, read. As for the skirts, I explain: Only grandmas behave this way. We heard a ringing and it started, all at once they covered up with Mikhanov. He already got the whole world on the couch, you see, he doesn’t trust the Kazakhs. Before you distrust, you need to know people (not shkolota). And in VO they picked up and who is what. Was there no accusation? And sold, bought, bought, blown away? We need to conduct a dialogue, and ask people from Kazakhstan what and how. And so it turns out the people here are against propaganda and are freaking out from the Ukrainians, they say, zombie pots. And to whom to compare many commentators on VO? Heard, read, waved his saber and rushed. About the Latin alphabet, really nonsense, the Kazakhs themselves are in shock. In Kazakhstan there is a fairly strong nationalist opposition, but not political (yet), but it seems that it has some leverage in Astana. Elbasy is about them. And this opposition is popular among the majority of Kazakhs who actually did not find the USSR, but there are quite a few mature ones. He urgently needs to save his billions, no one has canceled the toad. The new generation of Kazakhs are confident that they will live without other nations and without friendship with Russia. fool Well, the flag in their hands, a drum on the neck and a steam locomotive towards. This chimera was launched a long time ago, and now it's time to harvest. The port of Aktau is within our city, the port of Kuryk is not far. There is not a single piece of information that the NATO base will begin to be built. The city is not big, you can’t hide it. Sorry again got excited drinks
                  1. Opera
                    Opera April 28 2018 14: 04
                    +3
                    Well, if so. Of course there is misinformation. You see the situation in the world is not simple. Well, and around Russia ... Of course, normal people should be cold-headed if possible. As for the vector of development of the once-union republics, it is no longer a matter of friendship. The bottom line is choosing the side. Exactly. Here, more than ever, it is the people who will play an important role! I will explain why, with such an example, before the return of Crimea by the employees of our special services, a serious secret study of the mood of the population was carried out ... This is just an example and only a small part of the people's ability to express their will. Agree, if the Armenians so much want in the EU to be so! Is it not for us to convince them ?! Tea is not a three-piece (bast shoes))) hash slurp ?! Another thing is whether the Armenians want there and what will come of it ...
                    So, it’s not for us to sprinkle our heads with ashes! I believe that now more than ever Russia takes a pragmatic position on this issue and the further the more. Well, the doors for good people are always open.
                  2. Victor N
                    Victor N April 28 2018 15: 35
                    0
                    Do you really not notice that besides you, few people believe in "good Kazakhstan"? And the most important reason for this is why did the Russian speakers leave in large numbers? If "good" - show yourself, I can not believe the assurances ....
                    1. Opera
                      Opera April 28 2018 18: 11
                      +3
                      I can tell you that you need to believe in God, and not in good or bad Kazakhstan or Belarus! We must protect our interests and the interests of Russians who found themselves abroad not of their own free will! And of course, help people who consider Russia their homeland, including returning to Russia. We generally need to look more at ourselves. I don’t worry about Kazakhstan. And for Armenia too. Let them worry for themselves. We have something to do.
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym April 29 2018 01: 27
                        +3
                        Oper (Igor), I see you are an adequate person. If you want the opinion of the Kazakhstani regarding Latinization, then go to the section “Opinion” on the article “Will the US Navy appear in the Caspian? Yes, if they master teleportation” for 28.04.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX. I described in detail the situation of Latinization. And indeed for Kazakhstan.
                        Do not believe these fake news. hi
                  3. Standard
                    Standard April 28 2018 18: 36
                    0
                    Quote: PlayerMan
                    Well, the flag in their hands, a drum on the neck and a steam locomotive towards. This chimera was launched a long time ago,

                    And this chimera is called: USA.
  18. sevtrash
    sevtrash April 28 2018 11: 14
    +4
    If there is nothing to lose, or rather, in the absence of vigorous activity, much more can be lost than Kazakhstan, then it is most logical to act as actively as possible, the window of opportunity will go further. Well, for those in power, there is always something to lose, therefore, even if they have conversations on counteraction, in reality they won’t do anything. Half-hearted decisions are the most unsuccessful.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 28 2018 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: sevtrash
      Half-hearted decisions are the most unsuccessful.

      here Maidan was not a half-hearted decision ... right off the bat .... also could not be called successful decisions ...
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash April 28 2018 18: 56
        +4
        Quote: NEOZ
        here Maidan was not a half-hearted decision ... right off the bat .... also could not be called successful decisions ...

        How to say, for a certain part, everything turned out fine. Maidan played a role for customers and performers - someone came to power, someone redistributed assets again, someone stuck to budget money. And the main customer tore the main prize - he arranged a lot of trouble for Russia, probably not even counting on such effectiveness of his actions. And if we talk about the population as a whole - so what about the herd, you need to drive it in the right direction, sometimes feed cookies, and that's enough from it.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2018 13: 44
        +1
        A half-hearted solution - the obkorannaya Novorossia and burnt Odessa.
  19. Anatoly Yakovlev
    Anatoly Yakovlev April 28 2018 13: 41
    0
    I'm going to strangle myself just in case!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 13: 45
      +1
      It is also possible, but not constructively.
  20. tank66
    tank66 April 28 2018 14: 24
    +1
    About the base in Shevchenko back in 2013: “..It is natural that the US military base in Aktau will be included in the scenario of aggression against Iran, when and if time is ripe for it ..” Then it meant leaving the United States from Afghanistan and creating an alternative “raspberry” "near the Russian Federation. But even then and now / it’s not yet a fact that the bases will be /, I think the purpose of the geldings is not Iran, but concrete missile divisions buried in the mines, 600 km from Aktau. And the Caspian is in the draw.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 13: 47
      +2
      The United States has two goals. The first is us, the second is China. The bases in Kazakhstan are just what the doctor ordered. And there is no Eurasia! Here Beijing and Moscow need to agree. The only trouble is that incomprehensible gentlemen have settled in Moscow, with whom it is impossible to negotiate, they have other tasks and goals.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2018 13: 50
        +2
        Kasym, we also did not believe in the 91st at the present, we could not even imagine such a thing.
      2. sa-ag
        sa-ag April 30 2018 10: 28
        0
        Quote: NordUral
        The United States has two goals. The first is us, the second is China.

        The first is always China, the second may be Iran, and the Russian Federation further down the list
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 30 2018 10: 31
          0
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: NordUral
          The United States has two goals. The first is us, the second is China.

          The first is always China, the second may be Iran, and the Russian Federation further down the list

          Share the source of secret knowledge, plz.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag April 30 2018 10: 36
            0
            The logic, the rivalry between China and the United States is in the economic sphere, the struggle for markets, the same with Iran - is also a struggle for the European gas market, like the whole mess in Syria
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack April 30 2018 10: 38
              0
              Quote: NordUral
              Bases in Kazakhstan ...

              ... militaryI guess?
              Quote: sa-ag
              rivalry between China and the US goes in the economic sphere

              Where is the connection?
              And as a military target, the Russian Federation has always been the first ... something has changed in this world, but I did not notice? wink
              1. sa-ag
                sa-ag April 30 2018 10: 46
                0
                You are mistaken that, as a military or what other purpose, the Russian Federation has never been in the first place due to various factors, such as the level of economic development of the Russian Federation in no way threatened US national interests, the only thing the states are seeking is to take away part of the European gas market share, and the elite’s money storage in the west, and the commitment of this same elite to the same west does not make the RF the main goal. Well, China, yes, everything is different there, starting with the fact that its economy is considered the first in the world, Trump, having come to the White House, declared the American producer a priority, so the struggle for big money is and will continue, and the main goal will be China, its dominance in different parts of the world do not like the USA.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack April 30 2018 10: 48
                  0
                  Quote: sa-ag
                  Old Greek Karakargopulo

                  Clear. Thank.
                  You have not convinced me, however request
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  22. Geneshvi
    Geneshvi April 28 2018 15: 13
    +4
    Spider technique. How easy it is to break one thin thread, and how difficult it is, it is almost impossible to break a network of these threads. Neither adequate nor timely action on what is happening in the Donbas, in Syria, in Salisbury, in the IOC, in the Baltic states, in Moldova, in America itself, with respect to diplomatic missions from the Russian leadership is not and is not expected - they are too tied to their grandmothers in the west. And the network is almost ready. It is not yet whole, there is room for a breakthrough, but who will break it, aren't the characters who helped create it?
  23. zyzx
    zyzx April 28 2018 15: 31
    +3
    Uzbeks, Turkmens and Kyrgyz are lining up for American cookies ------------ there is only a whip, a step in the left is a blow to the kidneys, to the right in the liver. And it’s not the use of the carrot and the illusion of the carrot that does wonders. We also need to learn. step to the left embargo, step to the right to deport all citizens ...
  24. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 28 2018 15: 39
    +6
    For my Orsk, any option is extremely painful. And so for a long time now we have been in the crossroads of drug trafficking, we have just otmazyvatsya from the title of Urkagany point. I want to raise children, work, live, and not constantly fight.
    N.V. After all, Gogol spoke about us through the mouth of a city mayor: "From here, at least three years, you can’t reach any state." But no, the empire has shrunk, and now the end of the empire is already in this very place. Literally, across the river.
  25. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb April 28 2018 16: 39
    +2
    Not pleasant conclusions of the majority, sad and not comforting, suggest that most of them have no idea about the situation prevailing in the republic itself, Nazyrbayev is a tsar who fed up the population of this wonderful country. If you dig deeper in some areas of Kazakhstan, self-respecting citizens follow the events with great concern, namely they have what to lose and what to fight for (citizens who are against Nursultan’s policies). Russia has its own territorial interests, if anything, you just need to remember them, they remembered the Crimea when it turned up, the state secretary Khrushchev, an activist, gave away many lands, but what minerals are not found there, almost the entire periodic table, I’m talking about East of Kazakhstan. We don’t forget about the Great Chinese neighbor, who also has territorial issues for Kazakhstan, so Nazyrbaev has something to lose, and Russia doesn’t have to talk with him, enough with Ukrainians
  26. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 28 2018 16: 43
    +3
    I really want a long and happy life for my descendants. Grandfather and father passed it to me, and I want it to my grandson. Let's postpone the end of the world, and in any case we will not give its outcome to the hands of the bourgeoisie, women, blacks and loonies. Let's wait.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 12: 54
      +3
      What shall we wait? The silent and inglorious death of the country and the people? Or a big babah, if the exceptional ones finally get off the coils?
      1. Sergey-8848
        Sergey-8848 April 29 2018 15: 42
        0
        With the end of the world, I propose to wait, colleague.
  27. iouris
    iouris April 28 2018 17: 29
    +1
    From the Caspian beyond the Volga, you can stretch all the guts. Here we need Alexander the Great, who knew how to untie knots.
  28. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov April 28 2018 17: 57
    +3
    Everyone understands that there will be problems with Kazakhstan. Therefore, it is necessary to take the northern Russian-speaking territories from Kazakhstan, like the Crimea from Ukraine. It is also necessary to select Russian-speaking territories from Estonia, Latvia and Moldova and Ukraine. With the former Union republics of the USSR, it is necessary to build vassal relations, as the United States does with the European Union. No need to scold the United States, but you need to take an example from them.
    1. odometer
      odometer April 28 2018 18: 10
      0
      In fact, Russian is the language of interethnic communication in Kazakhstan and almost all of them speak it, to one degree or another. And then it turns out that all the territories of Kazakhstan are Russian-speaking. We must take everything. There are few of their own territories, and everything has already been equipped.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 12: 52
      0
      Lenechka, and you, by the way, are not a cowboy provocateur?
    3. Not in the system
      Not in the system April 30 2018 16: 33
      0
      No one needs to take horseradish. It is necessary to arrange the 37th year of the Enraged Printer, the Government and State Corporations. After that rebuild the country. When the country is rebuilt, the rest themselves will want to go back. Only on new conditions.
  29. Standard
    Standard April 28 2018 18: 32
    +3
    Cadres decide everything.
    Our president seems to be impotent.
    For him, more important are miserable downs than the fate of Russia.
  30. flicker
    flicker April 28 2018 21: 27
    0
    Probably, the last stage of encircling Russia from the famous Anaconda plan began
    This "anaconda" is too vulnerable because of its size. Kazakhstan, of course, is a very welcome bridgehead for the states, but also very vulnerable for them.
    The situation is aggravating, the hegemon is furious, maybe babosos cannot be returned (an excuse is not needed), they can stir up a color revolution, they can launch a missile bomb strike - these are the Kazakhs who show such a fashionable political flexibility today. For us, this flexibility is unpleasant, but the main thing so far is to do without color revolutions (we have enough of Ukraine). Well, if the hegemon is persistent, then we will have to bang it, including in Kazakhstan, it will be necessary with the help of tactical nuclear weapons (I hope the Kazakhs will understand us and will not be offended bully ), and the NWF on the territory of the hegemon and its other allies.
  31. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn April 29 2018 04: 25
    +3
    Kasym,
    Dauren hi hello ..
    The people on VO just go crazy negative They don’t even try to delve into, dig ... Trolls on VO, after the elections, unmeasured negative About Kazakhstan, stuffing, stuffing .. In the comments, to any topic, stuffing ... Something, we are brewing what
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 12: 50
      +3
      The people at VO just think about what the policy of liberal power in Moscow will lead to.
  32. aiden
    aiden April 29 2018 05: 05
    0
    But after the tragedy in Kemerovo, an article was recently introduced to the UK for such informational stuffing. at the same time, Baikal and Siberia will be remembered. Why are you throwing people into such confusion?
  33. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 29 2018 05: 58
    +1
    Yes, approximately, that’s how it is, if not worse! This cunning Nazarbay always behaved like a rat. Y. Kedmi-correctly said about him from the very beginning he led his policy of independence from the Russian Federation with the help of mattresses! And it is profitable for him to pretend to be an ally for the time being. Looks like he thought that his time had come. From time immemorial, all these nomads recognized only power, and were essentially corruptible. The classic complex of small nations is to sell to someone more expensive in order to survive by themselves in a clash of giants! Nothing has changed in this world!
  34. segduda
    segduda April 29 2018 10: 41
    0
    It's time to bring Kazakhstan back to RUSSIA !!! )))
  35. segduda
    segduda April 29 2018 10: 45
    0
    Let's welcome soon the 23rd republic of the Russian Federation "Republic of Kazakhstan" !!!!!
  36. NordUral
    NordUral April 29 2018 12: 45
    0
    This is worse than Ukraine. We look at the map.
    How could we prosrast. USSR, idiots!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2018 13: 36
      0
      Add another card. Something sad at heart, or rather dreary.
    2. klm-57
      klm-57 April 29 2018 14: 04
      +2
      By the way, you pour water into the same mill. No one is to blame for the fact that Nazarbay (as he wants to call himself) did not take his state resources out of the impact of the SGA, as Russia did, did not refuse to keep the treasury in dollars. I have no doubt that our "interested bodies" warned him about this. Or is it a deliberate betrayal on his part in the hope of staying in power longer. Empty hopes. Erdogan, too, at first hoped, but realized in time that they would throw him off faster.
  37. klm-57
    klm-57 April 29 2018 13: 32
    +1
    It is necessary to stop the training of Kazakh specialists in military universities of Russia, and the training of civilian specialists
    henceforth approach differentially, i.e. training to conduct only specialists who will work in the interests of Russia.
  38. serge siberian
    serge siberian April 29 2018 16: 17
    +1
    Nursultan as he was and remained a small landowner. Yes, and after the collapse of the Union, he spread rot of Russians and took up again (Latin, etc.) He didn’t go to the Grove, but he didn’t get any cleaner. Moreover, it would be more honest. he would be a honest man. And there’s not just one stone in his bosom, he will keep it for the time being. But the PRC will get to the Kazakhs, in the 60s, but the colonel of the USSR Armed Forces sharply resolved the issue and the Chinese silently took their corpses. Now they will pass and will not blink. soldier
  39. Slat808
    Slat808 April 30 2018 00: 39
    +1
    In the south, Syria and Iran interfere with gyryks in Kosovo. And then a straight line - Afghanistan - Baku - Kosovo.
  40. ruivit1988
    ruivit1988 April 30 2018 15: 17
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    The United States to let into its own country is exactly the same as letting go into its garden with a canopy. The government of Kazakhstan is generally thinking about the consequences of this action. Kazakhstan that few examples? After all, there are a lot of examples to take Ukraine right away!
  41. turbris
    turbris April 30 2018 18: 27
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    It is not necessary for the author to jump out of his pants with options for an active answer, it is easy to capture and share neighboring countries on the couch. Kazakhstan is not only our neighbor, but also an independent state, which has the right to build its relations with other states without looking back to Russia. Although I am sure that the option of presenting bases in the Caspian was agreed with Russia, so there is no need to drive the blizzard here.
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  43. Altona
    Altona April 30 2018 19: 58
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    Quote: Anti-Rasism
    Great comments. But the rest of the PROPAGANDONS WILL SEE YOURSELF ON YOUTUBE

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    Honestly, you can be seen in another place where you are spinning. It’s not clear why you have “anti-racism”, you’re just a racist to the marrow of bones, that is, Russophobe ...
  44. Altona
    Altona April 30 2018 20: 00
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    Quote: turbris
    Kazakhstan is not only our neighbor, but also an independent state, which has the right to build its relations with other states without looking back to Russia.

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    Kazakhstan is a separate nationalist state, the same as other post-Soviet republics. If you raise the original constitutional documents of this "state", then it is easily detected.
  45. Forever so
    Forever so April 30 2018 22: 16
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    Bullshit all these anacondas, the Medvedev government with Gref Kudrin and other Chubais are dozens of times worse.
  46. Alberr
    Alberr 1 May 2018 00: 01
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    whether it’s true or not we will see at the 5th forum of the Caspian littoral states already in the second half of 2018, but for good GDP it is already overdoing it without interfering in the affairs of the former countries of the Union, we’ve already got a ruin, Belarus is not frail with grandmas, and it smuggles from the EU, and it supplies the same ruin with our hydrocarbons, it’s a long time to talk about Central Asia, but there is a similar situevina
  47. Igor Levertov
    Igor Levertov 1 May 2018 19: 48
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    In the event of an immediate threat to Russia, this base will certainly be destroyed. In addition, it was already emphasized that a decision had been made: to resume production of the Caspian monsters (ekranoplanes Lun) in the coming years. These ekranoplanes will reliably protect Russia; no American fleet assembled in Baku will help. So the panic of this citizen is premature. We will also bear in mind that Nazarbayev is not eternal. And there you look, and the territorial formation of Kazakhstan within its current borders may disappear from the world map.
  48. Coca
    Coca 2 May 2018 12: 53
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    Everything is correct. Now Nazarbayev is in power and we can always agree. Of course, Kazakhstan also has geopolitical ambitions, but it didn’t reach obvious aggravations in relations, they always found a reasonable compromise. And tomorrow they will stick a pro-Western there, or some kind of nationalist, and so what? Everything flows, everything changes ... Of course, Russia must be provided with protection from the side of seemingly friendly countries. Now, if Union 2.0 is revived, then we will breathe more freely, but for now it’s impossible to relax.
  49. aleksandranton
    aleksandranton 3 May 2018 07: 28
    +1
    this cunning main Kazakh and his ilk Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens will gladly sell Russia. It began with the capture of Tselinograd (Astana), translation into Latin, etc.
  50. Romark
    Romark 4 May 2018 11: 07
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    Reasonably written. That's right. Nazarbayev is a prostitute, leaked everything he could. 22 billion in American banks have done their job. He will retire, his heirs will generally show us at the door. It will be worse with Baikonur than with gas transit through Ukraine. Our 100 billion can repeat the fate of the Kazakhs and then we can’t confront am not only on the Caspian theater, but in general ... It is clear why Hitler was eager for Stalingrad: Transsiberian, Altai, Far East. Generally - an ass! Damned Gorbachev !!! Burn a dog at the stake !!!