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We will remain without iPhones ... Kudrin warns about the harmfulness of retaliatory sanctions

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The head of the CSR (Center for Strategic Development), Alexei Kudrin, once again painted scary pictures of what the Russian technology market expects if they react to the introduction of a new portion of sanctions by the West. Recall that a few days ago a bill was introduced in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, which provides for responsibility for the observance of anti-Russian sanctions measures. In other words, the Russian authorities are proposing to punish, to varying degrees, companies that have sanctioned the sanctions imposed on Russia. It is also planned to take measures against companies with 25% US capital.


Kudrin's reaction is as follows (quote Interfax):
I will say briefly: this is a hasty decision with potentially grave consequences. The market is the market. If certain US sanctions are extended to our large corporations, the scale of complications in the domestic market of Russia will be very significant. And in the form in which it (the return bill) is presented, it is, of course, very controversial. Apparently, not everything was thought out initially. It concerns legal entities in which the American share exceeds 25%. I must say, in our market a lot of very large financial and industrial corporations, in which it is more than 30%. But these are Russian companies. The developers of the document, apparently, hastily rushed.


We will remain without iPhones ... Kudrin warns about the harmfulness of retaliatory sanctions


According to Kudrin, Russia is very dependent on American technology, and therefore it is impossible to respond to sanctions in this form.

Former Minister of Finance:
Restricting ourselves in such interaction with the most high-tech, most dynamic, most innovative market, we, of course, will significantly complicate or undermine the work of Russian companies.


Kudrin recalled the American software products and hardware platforms that are present in large numbers on the Russian market, including the trade and economic sector.
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 26 2018 13: 52
    +33
    Why is he still free?
    1. BZTM
      BZTM April 26 2018 13: 54
      +14
      Because. What. Chubais, Kudrin and others like them- wink
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 April 26 2018 13: 57
        +17
        If DAM - they will also be taken away, in connection with the sanctions .... I’m ready to personally hand over my iPhone and iPad - in addition !!! belay laughing
        1. Monos
          Monos April 26 2018 14: 11
          +17
          The market is the market.

          A bazaar is a bazaar. With all its charms: a monopoly, a "roof", a fake ... We are not fencing ourselves off the market, but on the bazaar. And what does the USA have to do with it? IPhones in China do. smile Software Products? And who makes them? Whose hackers?
          Limiting itself in such interaction with the most ..., most ..., most ... market

          laughing Licked from all sides. He climbed into all holes with his tongue.
          1. esaul
            esaul April 26 2018 14: 24
            +9
            “In the first lines of my letter” (c) I want to say that I must pay tribute to the author of the text - I managed to intrigue. The output, however, is a bunch, but - most importantly - attention is drawn. Maybe I do not correctly interpret the content? I beg your pardon, if something is not spotted.
            But in fact - Kudrin, in general, a disgusting frame - that outwardly, that in its conclusions, that in its exhortations: "No matter what happens!". I think that in his use of "iPhone", Kudrin is very proud of him, and the author noticed this and gave birth to a headline.
            I don’t have an iPhone. And not for nothing. I use Samsun by himself and do not worry. It is quite comfortable, though, it may be of Chinese assembly. And we are not in danger of losing China in this historical segment, guys.
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 26 2018 16: 18
              +5
              Well, they broke it off again ... I didn’t manage to buy it yet, but they’re already taking it away, well, to hell with me this Kudrin ????
              1. kamikaze
                kamikaze April 26 2018 22: 16
                +1
                why the heck do we need this kudrin that runs right away like a rat when the ship fell a little bit on its side
            2. To be or not to be
              To be or not to be April 26 2018 19: 20
              +3
              Satanovsky in Soloviev’s program on April 25 (58 06-59 41 minutes of the program)
              Satanovsky :: "We are all right about talking - readiness for difficult changes.
              And it is possible that all that absolutely ugly, lying on the surface, and HR policy, FINANCIAL policy and everything else was just as noticeable. that all this has changed.
              Can our holdings in the USA in their securities be equal to ZERO.
              You can our guide-already proven. That. if they are the best bankers and simply the best on the planet, as these guys say, and who are destroying the economy and robbing our industry. the economy ....
              It is necessary to send to America and a significant part of politicians ...

              There is no time for illusions and chicken trampling in the poultry yard, who is a liberal and who is a conservative ..

              Actually, it’s time to do something for a long time .. And then we can’t figure it out with our own garbage bins .. »» »
      2. Zebus
        Zebus April 27 2018 09: 05
        +2
        FIVE POINTS!!!!
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 26 2018 14: 12
      +8
      Remain without iPhones ... Kudrin warns of the pernicious retaliation

      Well, since Kudrin’s mother screamed, it means he fell under his tail, and that’s what the enemy is practicing.
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 26 2018 14: 15
        +5
        And so we are doing the right thing, screaming ...
        Quote: vovanpain
        Remain without iPhones ... Kudrin warns of the pernicious retaliation

        Well, since Kudrin’s mother screamed, it means he fell under his tail, and that’s what the enemy is practicing.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg April 26 2018 14: 26
        +3
        Quote: vovanpain
        Remain without iPhones ... Kudrin warns of the pernicious retaliation

        Well, since Kudrin’s mother screamed, it means he fell under his tail, and that’s what the enemy is practicing.


        So everything is done correctly.
      3. Monos
        Monos April 26 2018 18: 23
        +3
        Vladimir, welcome hi
        Quote: vovanpain
        Well, since Kudrin’s mother screamed, it means he fell under his tail, and that’s what the enemy is practicing.

        No, not horrible. He is working out other money. From another department. smile
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov April 26 2018 14: 28
      +2
      Kudrin is another saboteur. If I said so, then we must act even harder.
    4. Million
      Million April 26 2018 17: 03
      +2
      There are not many options: either Putin needs him, or Putin fears him
    5. den3080
      den3080 April 26 2018 19: 37
      +2
      so what's without iPhones !!! we’ll remain without a chewing gum, without spermint. Kudrin loves her very much.
    6. Slovak
      Slovak April 27 2018 00: 09
      +1
      Quote: Dormidont
      Why is he still free?

      Corrupt Russian liberals in the government will find reasons to whine. And they are right, it is impossible to imagine the head of government without an American gadget, without the ability to take a selfie against the background of a secret document!
  2. Thrall
    Thrall April 26 2018 13: 52
    +3
    For any tricky sanctions, we will build a bolt with the correct thread smile
    1. esaul
      esaul April 26 2018 14: 26
      0
      Quote: Thrall
      we will build a bolt with the right thread

      With a big step, colleague! drinks
  3. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 April 26 2018 13: 53
    +10
    Kudrin feeds up the economic business school of the United States and does not represent the world without the US market at all .... so his opinion is almost equal to the opinion of the rest of the ovsk ovules .........
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat April 26 2018 14: 03
      +6
      Quote: Alexey-74
      ... equal to the opinion of the rest of the ovian ovules .........

      Are you hinting at Putin? wassat

      1. esaul
        esaul April 26 2018 14: 30
        +1
        Quote: Nasr
        Are you hinting at Putin?

        Logic is tin! And what not to Assad pull or someone else? Looks like the brain from Putinophobia completely liquefied, right? I do not sympathize ...
        But the fact that Curls are the State Department’s extortion is a little bit of a point. Alexey 74 - Respect
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat April 26 2018 14: 42
          +7
          Quote: esaul

          Logic is tin!
          But the fact that Curls are the State Department’s extortion is a little bit of a point. Alexey 74 - Respect

          So not my logic, but Putin !!!

          “Alexei Kudrin never left my team. This is my very old, kind comrade, close, and I’ll even say that this is my friend, ”Putin admitted to being prime minister ..in 2011...
          Putin added that the ex-head of the Ministry of Finance did a lot to strengthen the country, his merits are the fact that he was twice recognized as the best finance minister in the world. “I am proud that such a person worked in my government,” the prime minister said.

          Vladimir Putin added that people like Alexei Kudrin are needed in both the current and the future government.
          ------------------
          It turns out: the State Department’s extortion is a friend of Putin !!! good
          laughing bully
          1. esaul
            esaul April 26 2018 14: 48
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            “Alexei Kudrin never left my team. This is my very old, kind comrade, close, and I’ll even say that this is my friend, ”Putin admitted to

            Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer to see their intentions. Not literally, but, a good thought ...
            But, in general, to explain to you that Putin is not a secret agent of the State Department is not worth a penny. People like you are talking about it from 2000.
            Maybe that’s why you have a nickname, because it’s connected with gov, because there’s one thing in your head? I’m not your doctor, buddy. Mea culpa
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat April 26 2018 14: 53
              +1
              Why did Putin alienate him from himself now? .. Kudrin’s thoughts were corrected? wassat

              Okay, do not be offended ..
              I’m sending VOMOS to help:

              1. esaul
                esaul April 26 2018 14: 58
                0
                Quote: Nasr
                Why did Putin alienate him from himself now? .. Kudrin’s thoughts were corrected?

                Eulampius, I take back my words about go-no in my head. You are a person with understanding. drinks
        2. Tatanka Yotanka
          Tatanka Yotanka April 26 2018 14: 50
          +3
          Quote: esaul
          Why not pull Assad, or someone else?

          I don’t remember Assad speaking about Kudrin))
          Quote: esaul
          Logic is tin!

          Quote: esaul
          Curls - Extraction of the State Department
          - a useful expert at the presidential council fellow
          1. esaul
            esaul April 26 2018 15: 00
            0
            Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
            useful expert at the presidential council

            Hello, veteran. hi
            1. Tatanka Yotanka
              Tatanka Yotanka April 26 2018 17: 53
              +1
              Quote: esaul
              Hello, veteran.

              I do not share your point of view, but I have respect)))) hi drinks
    2. Wolverine
      Wolverine April 26 2018 14: 04
      0
      Exactly, the American maniac - there are no more options. drinks
    3. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn April 26 2018 14: 34
      +2
      Mr. Kudrin is an enemy, and an experienced, extremely competent and tenacious enemy, he has strong ties, in the vertical line of power, the entire financial and economic bloc of the government, in fact his like-minded people, although purely tactically, taking into account his personal desire to be in the warmest place under the sun they have their own interests for everyone. Only by law, transferring their functions to the control of our state can weaken their power. You must rule the colonial constitution of '93
      1. esaul
        esaul April 26 2018 15: 05
        0
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        Mr. Kudrin is an enemy, and an experienced, extremely competent and tenacious enemy, he has strong ties, in the vertical line of power, the entire financial and economic bloc of the government, in fact his like-minded people, although purely tactically, taking into account his personal desire to be in the warmest place under the sun they have their own interests for everyone.
        hi drinks The same can be said about Chubais. Tenacious.
        Scientists have conducted research on the subject of which of the earthly organisms will survive at insanely high doses of radiation. Scorpions survived at 300 - multiple exceeded
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 26 2018 16: 55
          +1
          Quote: esaul
          Scientists have conducted research on the subject of which of the earthly organisms will survive at insanely high doses of radiation. Scorpions survived at 300 - multiple exceeded

          Like this:
          laughing laughing laughing
  4. bazzbazz
    bazzbazz April 26 2018 13: 53
    +6
    How furious this Liberast is !! IPhone is not enough for him! Everything is calm, China will replace.
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 April 26 2018 14: 02
      +6
      Quote: bazzbazz
      How furious this Liberast is !! IPhone is not enough for him! Everything is calm, China will replace.

      And I would generally forbid Apple products to be sold in the country. As soon as they refused to sell their products in the Crimea, the most correct answer, in my opinion, would be a complete ban on the import of this company's products.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 21
        0
        Not worth it. A significant part of the country's population is turned on Apple products. Especially girls 16-30 years old. It will be, as with a telegram blocking, an additional reason for anger against the state. And iPhones will be ordered on Ali or any other online site.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 April 26 2018 14: 59
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          another reason for anger against the state.

          You distort logic.

          The first step is that we do not sell products in the Crimea.
          The second step - Crimea - is the territory of Russia. You do not want to sell in Russia? And it is not necessary.
          The third step is that Apple decides whether to lose hundreds of millions of dollars because of the policy.

          And the State has absolutely nothing to do with it - this is a pure Apple decision.

          And nobody forbids ordering in China. The ban on "white imports" only.

          And so we turn into a “patience,” whose policy depends on every sneeze of an American company. It is with these steps that the conviction begins that any sanctions will be “rolled” with Russia.

          Only it needs to be done on the same day that Apple announced its decision.
    2. rrrd
      rrrd April 26 2018 14: 02
      +2
      I use MEIZU PRO 7 PLUS. quite a cool gadget with Chinese.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 09
        +1
        Respect. I have Meizu Pro 6S, satisfied. Before him there were 2 phones, also of Meizu company. Somehow I can’t force myself to switch to another brand. Or just don't want it. good
      2. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa April 26 2018 14: 21
        +1
        Now tell me which OS is on your Chinese miracle.
        1. rrrd
          rrrd April 26 2018 14: 35
          +1
          Android 7.1.1 Nougat Flyme 6 interface
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 37
          +1
          I have not updated (all too lazy to do this). Android 6.0 with Flyme 5.2.6.1 Shell
    3. mamertinets
      mamertinets April 26 2018 14: 06
      +5
      Quote: bazzbazz
      How furious this Liberast is !! IPhone is not enough for him! Everything is calm, China will replace.

      It's not about iPhones and laptops. Kudrin simply warns that the imposition of sanctions with a 25 percent participation of Americans will force these investors to sell their shares and leave the Russian market. This step will lead Russia to separate from world markets. I know the attitude of Russians towards Kudrin, but this time he is completely right. These sanctions will in the long run hit you yourself. Russia is taking such sanctions against the United States, because it really has nothing to answer, the United States have little dependence on trade with the United States.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 April 26 2018 14: 22
        +4
        Quote: mamertinets
        Kudrin simply warns that the imposition of sanctions with 25 percent participation of Americans will force these investors to sell their shares and leave the Russian market. This step will lead Russia to separate from world markets. I know the attitude of Russians towards Kudrin, but this time he is completely right

        Come on. Kudrin has already taught his students to invest in the US economy. How much can you hide behind Russia under the sanctions? Just Kudrin, Siluanov, Nabiulin and do everything for what would be worse for us. And the USA wants to tear us away from world markets with the help of Kudrin with his statements.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 26 2018 14: 24
        +3
        Quote: mamertinets
        The United States is little dependent on US trade.

        Of course, Razmik USA is little dependent on US goods turnover. laughing
        Quote: mamertinets
        This step will lead Russia to a break from world markets

        what belay Yes, they’re tearing off what year, everyone can’t tear it off from world markets and by the way the United States is by no means the main market for Russia, with the United States we have ten times less trade with the same EU, despite the sanctions and much greater trade with Asia.
        1. mamertinets
          mamertinets April 26 2018 14: 40
          +1
          Do you have ten times more trade with the EU? So, on the same site there was infa that the United States increased oil exports to the EU 4 times. The states are methodically working to reduce the share of the Russian Federation in trade with Europe. In principle, this is your business and your country - do what you want with her?
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain April 26 2018 15: 02
            +3
            Quote: mamertinets
            The states are systematically working to reduce Russia's share in trade with Europe.

            I’m very eager to push Russia out of the EU market, but the EU also doesn’t get foolish with a thought and thinks money is good, the same gas is much more profitable for them than cheap Russian pipeline than LNG from the states and 2 times more expensive, well, maybe Limitrophobes from Poland and Poland the last pants will be removed from the states for LNG. Well, that's their business. laughing
      3. esaul
        esaul April 26 2018 14: 35
        +2
        Quote: mamertinets
        In the future, these sanctions will hit you as well.

        Karen, but were the sanctions taken before that not for us? Can I find out by whom? We probably live in complete isolation from the country's economy. And import substitution in certain areas of the economy went just like that - from boredom ....
    4. Strength
      Strength April 26 2018 15: 44
      0
      China speak? Android phones with an ARM architecture have Qualcomm's most popular processor maker. And NVIDIA, AMD, Intel - will China replace you too? The question is what?
      1. sogdy
        sogdy April 26 2018 20: 32
        0
        Quote: Force
        And NVIDIA, AMD, Intel - will China replace you too? The question is what?

        C7-2 / 4/8, S3 - they work more stable, on the same data and programs - faster. And yes, you do not know who owns NVidia? And where are Intel, AMD processors manufactured? HP?
        Funny people ...
  5. Loess
    Loess April 26 2018 13: 56
    +5
    We will remain without iPhones ...
    Spit on iPhones. The people are waiting for tough sanctions against the United States and its henchmen.
    1. _Jack_
      _Jack_ April 26 2018 14: 03
      0
      I agree, but unfortunately, we do not have real, effective sanctions against the United States, they practically do not depend on us, unlike Europe
    2. PalBor
      PalBor April 26 2018 14: 06
      +6
      Exactly, I have an inexpensive Chinese smartphone, quite satisfied. It would be Russian, but alas.
      And the whole gang of the Gaidar HSE ... retirement. Yasin, Mau, all sorts of Stankevichs.
      Quoting Carroll - chop off their heads!
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat April 26 2018 14: 08
        +1
        Quote: PalBor

        And the whole gang of the Gaidar HSE ... retirement. Yasin, Mau, all sorts of Stankevichs.
        Quoting Carroll - chop off their heads!

        Have you swung the KGB / FSB project? They were not brought up for scaffold ...
        1. PalBor
          PalBor April 26 2018 18: 42
          +1
          Quote: Nasr
          Quote: PalBor

          And the whole gang of the Gaidar HSE ... retirement. Yasin, Mau, all sorts of Stankevichs.
          Quoting Carroll - chop off their heads!

          Have you swung the KGB / FSB project? They were not brought up for scaffold ...

          Do you think? Then I'm only for!
          By the way, in Ryazan, the Federal Security Service Directorate moved to a new complex of buildings and a monument to Dzerzhinsky was opened in front of the main entrance. The main thing is for business.
        2. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn April 26 2018 20: 57
          0
          whose head are you friends with? your own along the way you do not need.
      2. mamertinets
        mamertinets April 26 2018 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: PalBor
        Exactly, I have an inexpensive Chinese smartphone, quite satisfied. It would be Russian, but alas.
        And the whole gang of the Gaidar HSE ... retirement. Yasin, Mau, all sorts of Stankevichs.
        Quoting Carroll - chop off their heads!

        I had both a Chinese iPhone and a state iPhone. Chinese was a complete crap.
        1. Bumblebee_3
          Bumblebee_3 April 26 2018 14: 27
          +2
          Mamertin (Karen) And my situation is different, my son, a classmate brought an iPhone from the United States, I bought Ulefone almost at the same time, and so, there are no complaints about mine, my son’s iPhone died half a year later. Any purchase is a lottery, as lucky.
        2. sogdy
          sogdy April 26 2018 20: 47
          0
          Taki is just wonderful! Given that the "Shtatovskiy" iPhone of an English (!) Company is assembled in China, it is flashed in the USA. Chinese is going on the same line.
          And yes, our all Steve Jobs fired from Apple, from the Macintosh and led to the disruption of NEXT.
  6. Medalist
    Medalist April 26 2018 13: 59
    +2
    We will remain without iPhones ...
    ...and thank God ! It's time to get rid of this satanic abomination
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 26
      +1
      Quote: Medalist
      from this satanic abomination
      Hmm, let's do a little test. lol How do you feel about this image? Please express your attitude in 5 words:
      1. Alexanast
        Alexanast April 26 2018 14: 34
        +6
        Quote: Greenwood
        Please express your attitude in 5 words:


        Yes, and one is enough to get a "bath" ... And you propose five ... Provocateur ... lol
      2. dzvero
        dzvero April 26 2018 14: 46
        +2
        Photoshop so-so, the horizon is littered smile
  7. ioan-e
    ioan-e April 26 2018 14: 01
    +4
    One and the same - "Katz offered to surrender!"
  8. Lerych
    Lerych April 26 2018 14: 04
    +3
    An iPhone is an image rubbish for a lot of money. For that kind of money, the talk should be passed on to grandchildren, like family silver. It doesn’t work, it breaks ... It is checked on itself. Still McDonald's turn over - this is where there is scope for import substitution.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous April 26 2018 14: 57
      0
      So they tried to import substitute both iPhones and MacDucks. Result 0. Something is not visible in the sale of Russian phones. And they also broke off with catering 10-15 years ago. It’s not so easy to come up with a unique product for which people will line up. And you can ban, including and imported cars. And we will be like in the good old days on a Lada
  9. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah April 26 2018 14: 04
    +2
    And there are also European, South Korean, Japanese technologies ... In addition, the country itself is building unique weapons systems, not at the lowest technological level ... Will you use your phones or Chinese will have fewer show-offs for major jerks
  10. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack April 26 2018 14: 06
    +2
    Colleagues, and poorly read not only the headline?
    Kudrin, of course, radish. Liberal and illegitimate (HYYY).
    But this is not an idiot at all. And about the "iPhones" invented by the author ... author - author - author ...
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 26 2018 19: 02
      +1
      But does Russia depend heavily on AMERICAN technology?
      1. sogdy
        sogdy April 26 2018 20: 53
        +1
        Russia depends on American patents (not international!) For Russian developments. The minimum mark exceeds 100000 patents. Patents for the principle (advanced), not technology.
  11. Altona
    Altona April 26 2018 14: 10
    +5
    I will say briefly: this is a hasty decision with potentially grave consequences. The market is the market. If certain US sanctions are extended to our large corporations, the scale of complications in the domestic market of Russia will be very significant. And in the form in which it (the return bill) is presented, it is, of course, very controversial. Apparently, not everything was thought out initially. It concerns legal entities in which the American share exceeds 25%. I must say, in our market a lot of very large financial and industrial corporations, in which it is more than 30%. But these are Russian companies. The developers of the document, apparently, hastily rushed.
    ---------------------------------
    But what about the notorious "hand of the market", which will regulate everything? But what about "free competition"? But what about "we will buy everything, we do not need to develop production"? But what about "international cooperation"? But what about "foreign investments" and the creation of a "favorable business environment"? So you are lying recklessly, Mr. Sovramshi? So there is no and there was no "free market", but was there a Western administrative dictate? Eh-ma, and also some scientist you there, apparently British. The scientist of you, Mr. Kudrin, how is tobacco soaked? Mr. Kudrin, I’ll put your entire “economic” program into one proposal. Give America your money (money), and you cook it from the old church (untranslatable Chuvash folklore). laughing laughing lol
  12. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 26 2018 14: 14
    +9
    Special Report "Ordinary Miracle"
    Reporting from the Yaroslavl region, from the village of Ivanovo Borisoglebsky district, between Rostov and Uglich.
    Two elderly teachers from Moscow, a husband and a wife, founded a private comprehensive school there on old Soviet principles.
    Kids in uniform no cell phones, the Soviet classical program, and most importantly - the love and respect of all to all. And after a few years, this school did not get into.
    People move there as families closer to school, build houses, come up with something to work, so long as their children attend this school.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&am
    p; am
    p; v = JaMa3B5m_iU
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 29
      +3
      It’s interesting, but the training there is free (in the old Soviet traditions) or is it still for the scars (in the new Russian traditions)?
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 26 2018 14: 40
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Reporting from the Yaroslavl region, from the village of Ivanovo Borisoglebsky district, between Rostov and Uglich.

      There’s some cartoon junk on your link. Right here:
      http://ruskline.ru/analitika/2015/06/20/shkola_o_
      kotoroj_mechtaet_prezident /
  13. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 26 2018 14: 15
    +1
    Yes, and do not care, there have never been iPhones and never will be, an ordinary toy ... Now Koreans and Chinese make phones much cooler and cheaper.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 26 2018 14: 32
      +2
      Doesn't the magical power of an apple make your heart beat harder? Really captivating gnawed fruit does not pull your brain to a feat like "give all your salary, eat a doshik, but buy an iPhone"?
  14. PValery53
    PValery53 April 26 2018 14: 15
    +2
    What is he so concerned about maintaining the supply of amer gadgets to Russia? “Is he in proportion?”
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 26 2018 14: 16
    +4
    As soon as Russia is hard, Kudrin immediately appears and begins to nag, nag and nag .. hehe
    That's right, Putin joked about him "nipples", does not want to work .. but anyone can criticize here, even I hehe laughing
  16. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 26 2018 14: 19
    +2
    Left without iPhones


    how to live now without this tracking device in your pocket?

    what a terrible blow the West planned for the population of Russia where an insignificant part of the population could afford to buy an iPhone.

    Apparently, not everything was thought out initially. It applies to legal entities in which the American share exceeds 25%.


    everything was just thought out correctly because American shareholders should suffer losses from counter-sanctions on the actions of the American authorities themselves.
  17. faterdom
    faterdom April 26 2018 14: 22
    +1
    And what will the Americans take for themselves instead of Vnuchin? After all, the best minister of finance of all time - and he could have put a shoulder on the American economy, pulled it out of w ... Or do they think that he knows how to substitute the bandwagon more?
    And then how from that joke: "Girl, are you married?" - "No. And they all try and praise, but something they don’t call for marriage ..."
  18. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn April 26 2018 14: 25
    +1
    Microsoft software, according to “loyalty programs”, is full in all government structures, billions of rubles, or even dollars, there is no talk about the banking sector at all, all the beneficiaries of these purchases together prove that from the simplest text editor, to server and network Software is absolutely indispensable.
  19. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 26 2018 14: 29
    +3
    Maybe it's time to throw this cassander to the owners as a retaliatory sanction. The creature is annoying and nasty, damn butter!
  20. 1536
    1536 April 26 2018 14: 31
    0
    It is, rather, not about iPhones - the symbol of bourgeoisie, but about OS Windows, which is on most desktop computers and laptops in Russia. Add servers to this, and you get a rather gloomy prospect if all of a sudden it is all blocked by a command from the same Microsoft, for which there are technical capabilities, there would be a desire. (At the same time, just the iPhones will continue to work). As I understand it, there is no state program for the transition to the domestic OS at all, therefore, applications for the mass user are also not written for it, are not adapted and are not used. One can only dream of a domestic element base in personal PCs. And there is also the so-called peripherals: printers, scanners, multifunction devices, etc. apparatuses. By the way, requiring spare parts, cartridges, software updates. In Russia, all the years after the collapse of the USSR, voluntarily carried out by the people of 15 of the Union republics of its constituents (well, or, if you like, the leadership of these republics, who also did not come to us from the West and the Moon), they worked precisely with this and on this. And forget about ordinary LCD TVs too.
    Here, in the comments, the video from “Gentlemen of Fortune” is placed, but is it better to put the frames from “Operation Y”, the very ones with the song “Wait, steam train, don’t knock the wheels. Conductor, press the brakes.”, Which sings Y. Nikulin ...
    1. Amateur
      Amateur April 26 2018 15: 45
      +1
      Interesting, and at how many Windows licensed? But the counterfeit on sanctions and Microsoft itself do not give a damn a hundred times. Unless the US launches some killer virus. But I hope Kaspersky is not asleep, especially since they also ran into him.
    2. Tsoy
      Tsoy April 26 2018 17: 32
      0
      Quote: 1536
      if all at once all this will be blocked by a team from the same Microsoft, for which there are technical capabilities, there would be a desire.


      If there was such an opportunity computers with a pirated copy of Windows, and this is every second in the Russian Federation if not the first one would already be blocked. In theory, it is possible, in practice, no. Microsoft, the company is private, which means it follows its image in the world. After all, if you turn off any country, others will begin to fear that something similar might happen to them.
    3. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn April 26 2018 21: 12
      +1
      there are no special problems in refusing Windows, all the hardware works reasonably well on lunix, in the army in all regime units it has already been replaced, it will be hard for gamers only, I don’t know the utilities, to ensure the work of many toys, although they will write demand, and it’s quite able to cope with office applications, while the French and Chinese do not have “windows” in state institutions, and they don’t buzz
  21. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket April 26 2018 14: 33
    +2
    I would not regret this curly stake aspen
  22. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 26 2018 14: 34
    +3
    The head of the CSR (center for strategic development) Alexei Kudrin once again painted terrible pictures of what the Russian technology market expects in the event of a reaction to the introduction of a new portion of sanctions by the West.

    This rotten, foul-smelling head haunts our feet. It is correctly said above, and I will also ask: “Why is he still free?” And the answer will be: “According to Putin’s head” ... belay That same evony root (one hundred celery in his bag). lol There are many who sucked leeches. Shareholders of Rosneft, Gazprom and few of them in the amount of 1 appeared from nowhere and zones. Pull and pull, drink and drink blood. They think the bowl is bottomless. It’s time for them to rake in full with confiscation, oh how time it is. am
  23. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 26 2018 14: 37
    0
    Oh yeah! Kudrin is our everything! What a powerful response his words aroused!
  24. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 26 2018 14: 42
    0
    Quote: Greenwood
    It’s interesting, but the training there is free (in the old Soviet traditions) or is it still for the scars (in the new Russian traditions)?

    Municipal budget institution (Decree of the Administration of the Borisoglebsky Municipal District of the Yaroslavl Region dated 27.01.2011/127/XNUMX No. XNUMX)
    Сайт http://www.ivan-shkola.ru/2011-04-15-07-30-24
  25. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 26 2018 14: 43
    +1
    Kudrin:
    1. You can not help those who are under sanctions.
    (This is the same punishment for failure to comply with the instructions of the State Department)

    2. It is impossible to fine for failure to comply with sanctions.
    (This is the same punishment for failure to comply with the instructions of the State Department)

    Kudrin always follows instructions ...
  26. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 April 26 2018 14: 47
    0
    IPhone is a diagnosis laughing
  27. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 26 2018 14: 52
    +2
    Kudrin, Putin, Medvedev, oligarchs, well, what's the difference! All of them are oiled in one world!
  28. Altona
    Altona April 26 2018 15: 00
    0
    Quote: faterdom
    And what will the Americans take for themselves instead of Vnuchin?

    -----------------------------
    They have Mnuchin ...
  29. Clueless
    Clueless April 26 2018 15: 06
    +2
    Gentlemen, Kudrin is an ECONOMIST, not a politician, etc. Everything goes for him from the point of view of the economy. And as an economist, he showed himself more or less worthy by the way;)
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 27 2018 10: 09
      +1
      Yes, as an economist, he saved a lot on the Russians.
  30. raw174
    raw174 April 26 2018 15: 07
    0
    There is truth in his words, specifically in these:
    Restricting ourselves in such interaction with the most high-tech, most dynamic, most innovative market, we, of course, will significantly complicate or undermine the work of Russian companies.

    Maybe we won’t undermine, but complicate ...
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn April 27 2018 16: 07
      0
      What companies are we talking about? trade purchasing? not without reason the very first sanctions did not affect short-term loans at all, this is a reseller cycle - bought for a loan, sold, returned a loan with interest, margin in your pocket
      1. raw174
        raw174 April 28 2018 06: 26
        0
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        What companies are we talking about?

        First of all, production and production. If Russia completely blocks access to foreign civil technology, we will have a hard time ...
        1. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn April 28 2018 17: 24
          0
          if anyone does not know, any technology or equipment whose sale in the USA is considered to be a threat to their interests, regardless of civilian or military purposes, is not automatically sold, and sale is prohibited to ALL foreign partners. There, it was once forbidden to sell 45nm processor manufacturing technology, although by that time it was outdated, the United States considered that we would have a breakthrough and reduce dependence on Western manufacturers. They circumvented the ban and have already come close.
  31. lightning
    lightning April 26 2018 15: 51
    +2
    And what about the iPhone? We have caterpillar self-propelled equipment at the mines, it needs to be serviced. This is not the technique that is being repaired on the knee. More precisely, they will be able to repair it, but after that it will only be decided to allow it to be used by someone who is already retired.
    1. Alecsandr
      Alecsandr April 26 2018 21: 02
      0
      That's for sure. Many people don’t understand how everything is intertwined in our economy with the economy of the West so unloved by us. Here and investments loans and technologies. No wonder they made noise about import substitution for a long time .. Nothing came of it. The list of shareholders of our largest companies is interesting to see. there are a lot of foreign holders. So here we can shoot ourselves in the leg. Can't we yet, we are held tight by the collar
    2. tank66
      tank66 April 26 2018 21: 26
      +1
      You will laugh, but. China, Turkey and! Italy! stocks of spare parts for CAT and Komatsu let out, that it is possible to special services in transneft and so forth dryukat, for that their repairers take bribes, that the ANCHORS put branded s / h.
      1. lightning
        lightning April 27 2018 08: 06
        +1
        And who agrees to officially authorize the installation of uncertified parts? Any incident and hello dear court
        1. tank66
          tank66 April 27 2018 08: 48
          +2
          I’m not saying that they’re officially allowing. I’m talking about realities ... For example, this is the situation. Support rollers came up in Katya. The mechanic submits an application for a company that provides management services through a tender. A team arrives, set Shantuevskie / Shantui (China) / skating rinks. Bulldozer on the phone! tells the mechanic that everything is fine. Papers are signed. Who gets what, history is silent.
  32. Tank hard
    Tank hard April 26 2018 17: 08
    0
    I propose to stay without Kudrin. A completely useless individual, even if he was allowed to use canned dog food, I'm afraid the dogs will rest ...
  33. brdm
    brdm April 26 2018 17: 09
    +1
    Yes, do not "bzdi" You're Curly ... Break through!)) Until China turns its back))
  34. SmokeR 47RU
    SmokeR 47RU April 26 2018 17: 43
    +1
    I would give $ 100, just to see firsthand how Kudrin thrusts an iPhone into himself ... well!
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 27 2018 10: 12
      0
      Expensive. I know a lot of people who would stick him for free. And even the iPad. In a case.
  35. HMR333
    HMR333 April 26 2018 18: 43
    +1
    oh how scary)))) without iPhones how to live on)))
  36. Doctor13
    Doctor13 April 26 2018 20: 07
    +2
    I hate this enemy of the people ... Bastard and traitor, the fifth column.
  37. pavelwf1
    pavelwf1 April 26 2018 20: 25
    +2
    Here, Kudrin will be the first to remain without an iPhone! )) China will help to participate in the procurement!
    And it's time to create your own! Sanctions will also help. The president wanted a technological breakthrough, so maybe it's time to catch the right moment ????
  38. razved
    razved April 26 2018 21: 04
    +1
    Already not shy ...
  39. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 26 2018 21: 33
    0
    “I will say briefly: this is a hasty decision with potentially grave consequences. The market is the market. If certain US sanctions are extended to our large corporations, the scale of complications in the domestic market of Russia will be very significant. And in the form in which it (the return bill) is presented, it is, of course, very controversial. Apparently, not everything was thought out initially. It applies to legal entities in which the American share exceeds 25%. I must say, in our market there are a lot of very large financial and industrial corporations, in which it is more than 30%. But these are Russian companies. The developers of the document, apparently, were in a hurry.

    And he is right. It’s the same as shooting evil at the enemy’s foot.
  40. shirkoled
    shirkoled April 26 2018 22: 57
    0
    How much public money has this gentleman leaked in the USA?
    When will he answer for this?
  41. shirkoled
    shirkoled April 26 2018 22: 59
    0
    Quote: Alecsandr
    That's for sure. Many people don’t understand how everything is intertwined in our economy with the economy of the West so unloved by us. Here and investments loans and technologies. No wonder they made noise about import substitution for a long time .. Nothing came of it. The list of shareholders of our largest companies is interesting to see. there are a lot of foreign holders. So here we can shoot ourselves in the leg. Can't we yet, we are held tight by the collar

    All on x !!! Expand the iron curtain !!!
  42. Z_G_R
    Z_G_R April 27 2018 03: 59
    0
    Kudrin is clearly an enemy. However, he himself gives us a hint, but is it time to deal with his economy and industry in real, and not on paper?
  43. 23rus
    23rus April 27 2018 08: 44
    +1
    Only the iPhone got ready to buy ... Looks like no luck. crying
  44. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. April 27 2018 09: 08
    +2
    Another chubais! And at the same time, my friend Putin!
  45. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha April 28 2018 13: 49
    0
    This POWDER gored scare us. Can send him to shit on permanent residence?