Not yet C-300, but ... Russia supplied Syria with an additional batch of the Pantsir air defense system

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Russia sent an additional batch of anti-aircraft missile systems Pantsir to Syria. The complexes arrived in Syrian Tartus, where the base of the Russian Navy is located, “last week,” the Kommersant newspaper reported, citing a military diplomatic source.

Not yet C-300, but ... Russia supplied Syria with an additional batch of the Pantsir air defense system




At the same time, the source reports that despite the statements made earlier about the readiness to transfer long-range anti-aircraft missile systems C-300 to Damascus, they are not yet in Syria. However, according to him, “we are talking about an additional batch of Pantsir-type systems delivered to Tartus last week.”

Earlier it was reported that "Pantsir", according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, showed the greatest accuracy of all used in the attack by Western countries on Syria SAM. So, from the "shell" was released 25 missiles that hit the target 23. C-125 - released 13, hit five targets. C-200 - released eight missiles, targets are not hit.

After this, the Syrian government forces reinforced a number of positions with the C-1 and C-200 air defense missile systems Pantsir-C125.

Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that it was ready to return to discussing the issue of deliveries to Syria of the S-300, categorically opposed by Israel. The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian S-300, if they carry a threat to the military aviation country.
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  1. +14
    April 26 2018 10: 32
    S-300 is already a month in Syria too ...
    1. +34
      April 26 2018 10: 35
      That's right, let them deliver the "Shell", because the S-300 needs to be protected ... Especially from the Israelites ...
      1. +18
        April 26 2018 10: 36
        Alexander hi There is nothing to do without Syria C300 in Syria ..
        Quote: Logall
        That's right, let them deliver the "Shell", because the S-300 needs to be protected ... Especially from the Israelites ...
        1. +8
          April 26 2018 10: 42
          Quote: 210ox
          There is nothing to do without Syria C300 in Syria ..

          So it’s like that ... until there’s nothing to bring down the carriers with, well, let's wait ... recourse
          1. +8
            April 26 2018 11: 48
            Quote: NIKNN
            Quote: 210ox
            There is nothing to do without Syria C300 in Syria ..

            So it’s like that ... until there’s nothing to bring down the carriers with, well, let's wait ... recourse

            Nicholas, hi Do you really think that Russia will "quarrel" with Israel over Syria? There will be no “Favorites” in the foreseeable future. The reasons are many :. the powerful Israeli lobby in the Russian Federation, the financial component, the staffing of the complexes by Syrian operators, the reputation losses of Russia during the destruction of these complexes by Jews, etc. With the destruction of Israeli aircraft by Russian operators, and this will be calculated very quickly, the radio interception and agents of the Jews work perfectly, the war can go on a different plane, as I understand it, this is not part of Putin’s plans. hi
            1. +8
              April 26 2018 12: 14
              Vyacheslav hi
              Quote: kapitan92
              this is not part of Putin's plans.
              It’s necessary to look ... I can even add that we are being provoked to a fight by all means ... But we are rapidly losing our reputation from these provocations, the GDP rating has already dropped ... As intelligence finds out, I don’t see any problems, they are proud of their crimes .. There is a limit to everything ...
              A young man of a boorish-looking appearance comes into the temple, approaches the priest, hits him on the cheek and smiles maliciously, saying: “And what, father, it’s said, because they hit on the right cheek, stand and left.”
              Father, a former master of sports in boxing, hooks to the left sends an insolent man to the corner of the temple and meekly says: "It is also said what measure you measure, such will be measured to you!"
              Frightened parishioners: "What's going on there?"
              The deacon is important: "The gospel is interpreted."
              Well, like that ... hi
              1. +7
                April 26 2018 12: 47
                Quote: NIKNN
                It’s necessary to look ... I can even add that we are being provoked to a fight by all means ... But we are rapidly losing our reputation from these provocations, the GDP rating has already dropped ... As intelligence finds out, I don’t see any problems, they are proud of their crimes .. There is a limit to everything.

                Really provoke, you're right! The next goal is World Cup 18, but then we'll see. For these reasons, the C 300 will not appear in Syria yet! drinks hi
                1. +5
                  April 26 2018 12: 57
                  Quote: kapitan92
                  World Cup 18, and then we'll see.

                  drinks hi
            2. +6
              April 26 2018 15: 18
              Quote: kapitan92
              Do you really think that Russia will "quarrel" with Israel over Syria?

              Interestingly the cat ceem tail will raise and tremble ... request This means that Israel is “not afraid” of quarreling with Russia, and Russia should be afraid of a “quarrel” with Israel! No.
              1. +3
                April 26 2018 22: 04
                Quote: Nikolaevich I
                This means that Israel is “not afraid” of quarreling with Russia, and Russia should be afraid of a “quarrel” with Israel!

                But is Israel attacking our bases and areas where our specialists are concentrated ???
                SAR invited the Russian Federation to fight ISIS, which we are doing. These neighbors have old showdowns and Russia will not go there, for this reason it does not fit into the Kurdish-Turkish-American showdowns.
                1. +2
                  April 27 2018 01: 20
                  Quote: kapitan92
                  But is Israel attacking our bases and areas where our specialists are concentrated ???

                  What else is missing !! But ... you have a "guarantee" that ... (somehow .... once again ...!) Israel will not "bomb" the Syrian object (base), where it urgently wanted to be a Russian military, or civilian to specialists? But what about the Israeli threat: "destroy S-300 immediately after arriving in Syria"? “Immediately after arriving in Syria”, Russian specialists (!) Will be at the positions of C-300; complexes must be deployed (installed) and begin training the Syrians ...
                  1. +2
                    April 27 2018 01: 58
                    PS You can imagine such a “picture”: a Russian company is restoring a production plant in Syria ... well ... chemical fertilizers! And Israel "undertakes to bomb it" because of the "considerations", the potential "production of explosives or chemical weapons at this plant !! Or another example: they built a factory for the production of microcircuits ... to make smartphones or tonometers ... And Israel is “bombing” this factory on the grounds that “Tama can be used for MANPADS!” Don't you understand that there are many “dual-use or, more correctly, production” facilities in the world? And what? Does this “bomb”? How the Americans bombed in Syria a research and production center for the development and production of Lek pstv ?! And Israel is engaged in this and that! Do you really not understand that this is "international lawlessness", the unceremonious disregard for the state sovereignty of another state?
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            1. +3
              April 26 2018 13: 26
              Quote: social media
              where is the guarantee that the Syrians will not use the C300 against our civilian plane just to provoke a conflict or the Iranians? if the Syrians have c300 they can calmly shoot down our planes throughout the territory of Israel and of course they will do it or the Iranians will do it

              laughing laughing laughing So for that we supply, so that your civil planes can be shot down !!! We will not reach the S-500, we will not rest until your entire civilian fleet is planted ... laughing laughing fool
        2. 0
          April 26 2018 11: 30
          Quote: 210ox
          There is nothing to do without Syria C300 in Syria ..

          The main thing is Moremanov's patrol. And then unbelieve from boredom, when we board the sky with boards laughing
      2. +26
        April 26 2018 10: 42
        Quote: Logall
        That's right, let them deliver the "Shell", because the S-300 needs to be protected ... Especially from the Israelites ...

        Hello, Sasha! hi The carapace is a complex of covering objects of near radius of destruction. If Jews shout with foam at their mouths that they will destroy the S-300 divisions, then it’s quite logical to first put up S-300 cover complexes, and then them! Well, that life did not seem raspberry to Jews. negative
        1. +12
          April 26 2018 10: 52
          Yura, hi , with their statements, the Jews forced us to take such a step. Now we will see how and what they are going to destroy ... But no pilot will now feel safe, even in their own and Lebanese territories.
          1. +10
            April 26 2018 11: 02
            The political will, in view of its complete absence, is not enough to use forces and means ... wink
            1. +6
              April 26 2018 11: 39
              Quote: BZTM
              The political will, in view of its complete absence, is not enough to use forces and means ... wink


              good about the political will already ... tired of moaning ..
              1. +8
                April 26 2018 11: 44
                Be more tolerant, your Urya has been furious with me for a long time, but I put up with it, I don’t like it, don’t read how I do with your posts. Calmer, Marine Corps. wink
          2. +4
            April 26 2018 11: 07
            Quote: Logall
            Yura, hi , with their statements, the Jews forced us to take such a step. Now we will see how and what they are going to destroy ... But no pilot will now feel safe, even in their own and Lebanese territories.

            Impenetrable protection does not exist. Additional Armor just increase the price that will have to pay for the destruction of the radar complex S-300. They will try and find out what it will cost, and then depending on the test results.
            To calm down, the price must be very high - multiple times the cost of goals.
            1. +1
              April 26 2018 12: 45
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              Impenetrable protection does not exist. Extra Armor just increases the price,

              This is how to look. On the one hand, we will accept, on the other. The USA has so many axes and pepelats no
            2. 0
              April 26 2018 23: 28
              You have to act like them.
              Destroy the plane and the airfield from which it took off.
              As for anyone, it’s no other way, after all, a machine-printing machine for enemies.
          3. +4
            April 26 2018 11: 12
            Sasha, duck, after all, the law of the jungle says: “How he comes around, so he takes off!” And then the Jews are bandit in the region, but you can’t touch them, their dad has a cool Yankees! It’s good to persuade these "natives", God is god, Caesar is Caesar, and chickens are smoke! am
      3. +3
        April 26 2018 11: 30
        Quote: Logall
        Especially from the Israelites.


        Jews.

        From the Jews.

        hi
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      5. 0
        April 26 2018 14: 27
        Quote: Logall
        That's right, let them deliver the "Shell", because the S-300 needs to be protected ... Especially from the Israelites ...

        The fact is that in addition to the Shells and S-300, the Syrians need Buki and Torah ... and I believe that these air defense systems are now equipped with Syrian air defense.
    2. +9
      April 26 2018 10: 39
      Quote: Thrall
      S-300 is already a month in Syria too ...

      Carapace is also a thing and there are few of them! It doesn’t work out, we’ll stuff Syria with weapons, etc. And very tricky! US Air Force, etc. already complain about our electronic warfare, irradiate them constantly hehe Plaque UAVs have recently been reflected on our base .. We work men, Russians do not give up! soldier
      1. +2
        April 26 2018 11: 32
        Quote: MIKHAN
        there are few of them


        - Pills to me from greed. Yes, more, more. *

        Victor hi
        1. +1
          April 26 2018 13: 18
          Quote: Vanek
          Quote: MIKHAN
          there are few of them


          - Pills to me from greed. Yes, more, more. *

          Victor hi

          Well pinned up .. Here only "Shells" and direct fire can gou on coming heh heh ..
          I remember a Turk shot down near the coast of Syria on F-16 heh heh This was a fighter! (the pilot, like alive, but no longer a flyer))))
          This system is THING!
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    3. +3
      April 26 2018 13: 27
      Quote: Thrall
      S-300 is already a month in Syria too ...

      Where is the droushka?

      = At the same time, the source reports that despite the statements made earlier about the readiness to hand over to S-300 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems to Damascus, they are not yet in Syria. =
      Ours often began to say one thing, and do another. Somehow I do not like it. Not patsansky.
      = Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that it was ready to return to discussing the issue of deliveries of Syria S-300, categorically opposed by Israel. The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian S-300, if they would pose a threat to the country's military aviation. =
      Those. Israel seek permission to supply Syria S-300? Okay ...
      And if the Israeli threat to destroy the S-300, also respond with a threat - we will destroy all your airfields "Caliber"! What then will say the most cowardly state in the world?
      1. +2
        April 26 2018 13: 35
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Somehow I do not like it. Not patsansky.
        ... Israel is asking for permission to supply Syria S-300? Okay ...
        And if the Israeli threat to destroy the S-300, also respond with a threat - we will destroy all your airfields "Caliber"! What then will say the most cowardly state in the world?

        Gosss ... and where you are only taken ... negative
        1. +3
          April 26 2018 14: 02
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Somehow I do not like it. Not patsansky.
          ... Israel is asking for permission to supply Syria S-300? Okay ...
          And if the Israeli threat to destroy the S-300, also respond with a threat - we will destroy all your airfields "Caliber"! What then will say the most cowardly state in the world?

          Gosss ... and where you are only taken ... negative

          Actually, in the same place as you. But essentially have something to say? Or only on "Goss ..." Are you capable of? Oh, excuse me ... we’ve also become generous with the emoticon. Deep. Thought permeates.
          1. +2
            April 26 2018 14: 16
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            But essentially have something to say?

            Yes, of course there is. But I'm afraid you don’t like it feel
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            ours began to say one thing and do another. Somehow I do not like it. Not patsansky

            In patsansky - it's in the gateway. Diplomacy, and politics in general, with the laws of the gateway, of course, intersect ... but, by the way, it’s not strong and far from always.
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Israel seek permission to supply Syria S-300?

            Everything is much more cunning, and certainly no one "begs" for anything. Explain to you the details ... but I just do not see the point. "Not a horse."
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            to respond with a threat too - we will destroy all your airfields with Caliber

            This is not constructive. And threatening to destroy civilian airports is generally bad form. Nizya request
            Here are the three main nonsense that caused my reaction to your comment.
            I get it?
            1. 0
              April 26 2018 14: 58
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Yes, of course there is. But I'm afraid you don’t like it

              Why are you so excited for me?
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              In patsansky - it's in the gateway. Diplomacy, and politics in general, with the laws of the gateway, of course, intersect ... but, by the way, it’s not strong and far from always.

              Is this your answer in essence ??? Not much. And ate to be more precise then - no way.
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              Everything is much more cunning, and certainly no one "begs" for anything. Explain to you the details ... but I just do not see the point. "Not a horse."

              And this is also the answer essentially ??????? Even my slippers are neighing
              .
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I get it?

              More than. Windbag
              1. +1
                April 26 2018 15: 02
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Windbag

                School laughing
                1. 0
                  April 26 2018 15: 10
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Windbag

                  School laughing

                  That you are a dumbbell, I proved. Prove you, too, that I am a shkolota.
                  Honestly, I do not know what this word means. Just don’t need to explain to me what this word means, otherwise I’m afraid that you will succeed in the same way that you essentially answered my post.
                  1. +2
                    April 26 2018 16: 39
                    Try to at least compare the balance of forces between Russia and Israel in this theater of operations, the other are not military consequences of the strike by Caliber, and then you will understand that you are cool, but shkolota.
                    1. 0
                      April 26 2018 16: 56
                      Quote: stone
                      Try to at least compare the balance of forces between Russia and Israel in this theater of operations, the other are not military consequences of the strike by Caliber, and then you will understand that you are cool, but shkolota.

                      Another essentially spoke out. Are Jews all so crazy?
        2. +2
          April 26 2018 14: 29
          On Thief online.
          1. +1
            April 26 2018 16: 44
            Quote: sivuch
            On Thief online

            Verily Yes
            PS: By the way, in Russian transcription it sounds ... extremely erotic laughing
  2. +16
    April 26 2018 10: 34
    The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian C-300 if they would pose a threat to the country's military aviation.

    Do not go into someone else's airspace (where no one has called you) - no one will touch you.
    1. +4
      April 26 2018 10: 37
      bouncyhunter (Pasha) Today, 10: 34

      Hello Pasha hi ! So I say, what should the Jews do in a neighboring state ?!
      1. +3
        April 26 2018 10: 39
        Sergey, salute! hi
        Quote: aszzz888
        what do the Jews do in a neighboring state ?!

        Forgot their eternal excuse? "We only defend ourselves!" . negative
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        2. +1
          April 26 2018 10: 44
          bouncyhunter (Pasha) Today, 10: 39
          Forgot their eternal excuse? "We only defend ourselves!"

          Yes, yes ... For this, they will unconsciously beat their heads against their wall ... bully
          1. +4
            April 26 2018 10: 46
            Quote: aszzz888
            fight against your wall ...

            Are you talking about the Kotel?
            1. +3
              April 26 2018 10: 52
              bouncyhunter (Pasha) Today, 10: 46
              Are you talking about the Kotel?

              About her, Pasha, about her ..
    2. +2
      April 26 2018 11: 19
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      Do not go into someone else's airspace (where no one has called you) - no one will touch you.


      If tomorrow Ukraine will help the terrorists dig around the borders of Russia and you climb into someone else's space.
      And given that Syria and Israel are at war and Syria helps Shiite terrorists settle near the borders and acquire weapons, then Israel will climb into Syria and, if necessary, it will destroy the C300 and even more the shells.
      1. +2
        April 26 2018 11: 28
        Tiras (Victor) Today, 11: 19 ... and if necessary, it will destroy the C300 and even more the shells.

        ... and nothing more intelligent?! ??? laughing laughing laughing
        1. +1
          April 26 2018 11: 32
          Quote: aszzz888
          ... and nothing more intelligent?! ???


          You are laughing now, and then you will be very angry and unhappy wink
          1. +2
            April 26 2018 11: 37
            Tiras (Victor) Today, 11: 32 You are laughing now, and then you will be very angry and displeased wink

            ... when you will bury your flyers, I will look at your well-being .. wink hi
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  3. +5
    April 26 2018 10: 34
    But I warned you, even after the first attack with axes. hiWith the only drawback: I need a shell with a remote detonation at it. To crumble everything at all.From one shell. Including this.
  4. +6
    April 26 2018 10: 35
    The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian C-300 if they would pose a threat to the country's military aviation.

    Where is the threat? In Syria? Crazy completely blue-star angry angry angry
    1. +3
      April 26 2018 10: 38
      Jews drag Iran here, like the S-300 will fall under the influence of the Persians or will defend Iranian objects, which, in turn, pose a threat to Israel (and everything else uncircumcised progressive humanity).
      1. +2
        April 26 2018 10: 41
        Thrall Today, 10: 38 Thrall Today, 10: 38 ↑ New
        Jews drag Iran here, type C-300 fall under the influence of the Persians

        This is a "Jewish swan song" ... but here - how to agree with us. Of course, we will never learn about many things. request
        1. +3
          April 26 2018 11: 05
          Are you talking about Putin’s Decree on classifying military casualties in peacetime?
          1. +5
            April 26 2018 11: 07
            Quote: danan
            Are you talking about Putin’s Decree on classifying military casualties in peacetime?

            There is Putin’s Decree on classifying the Decree on classifying losses. But he is also classified smile
          2. +1
            April 26 2018 11: 10
            danan (pesah nahum

            Decree number and from which year to the studio ...
            1. +3
              April 26 2018 11: 25
              Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of May 28.05.2015, 273 No. 30 "On Amendments to the List of Information Related to State Secrets, approved by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 1995, 1203 No. XNUMX"
              Publication Date: 28.05.2015
              Publication Number: 0001201505280001

              http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/000
              1201505280001
              1. 0
                April 26 2018 11: 31
                Tiras (Victor) Today, 11: 25 ↑ New
                Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 28.05.2015 No. 273 "On amendments to the list of information classified as state secret,

                ... and in it "on the classification of military losses in peacetime?" ... laughing laughing bully
                1. +3
                  April 26 2018 12: 18
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  and in it "on the classification of military losses in peacetime?" ...


                  You read for decency.
          3. +1
            April 26 2018 12: 43
            Uncle, this is not a decree, but the Duma adopted the law, moreover, under Yeltsin in 1995, and under Putin, amendments were made! Teach the materiel if you get into discussions on this issue.
            1. +3
              April 26 2018 13: 11
              Well away we go, "materiel."
              The Presidential Decree of November 30.11.1995, 02.03.2018, on the Approval of the List of Information Related to State Secrets, as amended on March XNUMX, XNUMX, is currently in force.
              This decree was adopted in accordance with Part 2 of Art. 4 of the Law of the Russian Federation of July 21.07.1993, 26.07.2017 "On State Secret" (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX).
              According to the law, the President of the Russian Federation
              "... approves, on the proposal of the Government of the Russian Federation, the List of officials of state authorities and organizations vested with the authority to classify information as a state secret, the List of posts in the replacement of which persons are considered admitted to state secret, as well as the List of information classified as state secret;"
              As for the mentioned Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated May 28.05.2015, 273 No. 1203, he amended the list of information established by Decree No. XNUMX.
              In particular, paragraph 10 establishes that state secrets include:
              ".. Information revealing the loss of personnel in wartime, in peacetime during the period of special operations "
              ) (refers to the Ministry of Defense of Russia).
          4. 0
            April 26 2018 14: 19
            We are talking about the fact that first the “Shell” and then the S-300, “Bastions”, “Iskander” and “Caliber”.
      2. +3
        April 26 2018 10: 41
        Quote: Thrall
        Jews drag Iran here, S-300 type will fall under the influence of the Persians or will protect Iranian objects


        Allies should do so. Iran is now helping Syria, Syria will cover Iran’s facilities through its air defense. All in a bunch, let the blue-star rave about ...
        1. +1
          April 26 2018 10: 46
          Corsair0304 (Siberian) Today, 10: 41
          All in a bunch, let the blue-star rave about ...

          And they will again be gangster, from around the corner to strike at Syria angry
        2. +1
          April 26 2018 11: 28
          Quote: Corsair0304
          All in a bunch, let the blue-star rave about ...


          I don’t think that the blue-star rage, given that they strike at Shiite terrorists and those who help them when they need it.
          And the United States and the coalition also neither asked Russia nor Assad.
          And now they will do the same, only it will be a little difficult at first, and then, after the destruction of Syria’s air defense, it’s easier.
          1. 0
            April 28 2018 08: 11
            Quote: Tiras
            it will only be a little complicated at first, and then, after the destruction of Syria’s air defense, it’s easier.


            Syrian air defense can be destroyed only by massive and prolonged strikes. By analogy with Yugoslavia, the Slav brothers, with the help of a hammer, a chisel and some mother, managed to plant coalition apparatuses: 61 aircraft, 7 helicopters, 30 UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) and 238 cruise missiles. ... The American International Association for Strategic Studies, after only the first month of hostilities (and they lasted more than two and a half months), claimed that the loss of allied aviation already amounted to 38 aircraft, 6 helicopters and 7 UAVs. These data coincide with the data of the SFRY Air Force for April 1999.
            And this despite the fact that Russia then helped from the word "no way"
      3. +3
        April 26 2018 10: 46
        Israel, in principle, doesn’t need a c300 near by, they perfectly remember the Dutch Heights, and their loss threatens with gigantic problems. And you’ll have to fly taking into account the C300 - and there the notorious F-35 Maget iron will turn into a bunch of high-tech composite debris. Than then iron adjacent areas)
        1. +2
          April 26 2018 10: 54
          viralig (Peter) Today, 10: 46 ↑
          In principle, Israel doesn’t need 300 at hand, they remember the Dutch Heights very well,

          And what kind of Jewish flyer wants 100% shot down by three hundredths? bully That's why they tear hairs on a beard ... bully
        2. +2
          April 26 2018 11: 34
          Quote: viralig
          Dutch heights


          wassat
  5. +1
    April 26 2018 10: 38
    "Shell", according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, showed the greatest accuracy of all used in the attack by Western countries on Syria air defense systems

    Well, you can’t compare the “Armor” with the S-125 and S-200!
    This is how modern antibiotics compare with penicillin from the Second World War.
  6. +2
    April 26 2018 10: 44
    It is not necessary to guess ahead of time what has already been delivered and what will be delivered in the near future. Conclusions on the results of the strike and the work of the air defense of Syria are obviously made, on the basis of this the Syrian air defense will be updated and strengthened.
  7. +1
    April 26 2018 10: 59
    First you need to prepare a place for the S-300 and put the Armor at the right points - then you can import the S-300.
  8. +2
    April 26 2018 11: 10
    Nice move. But, gentlemen, let me ask you why everyone is so afraid of the S-300? What does he have that which Buk does not have? Missiles less, missile speed less. The range of Beech is more than enough to protect Syria. Plus more reliable, inconspicuous, you can not list all the advantages. After all, C-ki were created to cover our vast country. Buk’s firepower will be more than enough to cover Syria, as well as their cost, mobility, maintainability, universality. Why is everyone so clinging to this b-dontont s-300? It is much more logical to bury a dozen other Bukovs in Syria, cover them with bros with Arrows or the same Kamaz trucks, launch them into the mountains and everything, impassable air defense!
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 11: 42
      If we compare the performance characteristics of S-300 and Buka of the latest modifications, the difference is significant. In addition, the Buk was originally developed as a military system with the air defense system and it is not at all simple to include it in the automated control system of object air defense, theoretically of course it is possible, but pointless.
    2. +1
      April 26 2018 13: 14
      Quote: se-a
      Why is everyone so afraid of the S-300? What does he have that which Buk does not have?

      Reach, including on the parameter and speed of the target.

      Israel feels unpunished by launching long-range missiles in Syria from the depths of the territory of Israel and Lebanon, where the Buk will not reach.

      S-300 can shoot down such aircraft at least over Tel Aviv. Hence the tantrum.
      1. 0
        April 26 2018 13: 21
        Well yes. But why run an elephant into a china shop! East, as you know, is a delicate matter. it is much more rational from all points of view to flood Syria’s air defense with Bukami at the same cost. Where is our rational thinking in this situation. It seems to me that the Moscow Region is conducting its game and wants to test the S-300 in a combat situation, that’s all. I also think that a serious struggle is ongoing between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense on this issue.
        1. 0
          April 26 2018 17: 32
          Impunity corrupts.
          There is only one cure for bringing to the senses these completely thawed thugs - with every act of aggression, airplanes with Mogendavids must fall.
          Only S-300, only hardcore.
          1. 0
            April 26 2018 22: 47
            We will bring them, but we will make a very strong enemy. This will be very bad in our situation. Nevertheless, I hope that rationalism will defeat military adventurism. Why do we need such an enemy in the Middle East? So we are sitting on a powder keg called the North Caucasus. In the south we need silence and grace. How do you explain your point of view?
            1. 0
              April 27 2018 00: 50
              Quote: se-a
              We will bring them, but we will make a very strong enemy.

              Oh wow! Who are they? Friends or what?

              ISIS, al-Qaeda, Chechen Wahhabis and Ukrainian Bandera, they have been actively supporting for many years out of friendly feelings for Russia?
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  11. +2
    April 26 2018 11: 12
    Israel did not even turn to Russia about the supply of S-300.
    Israel has extensive experience in combating the enemy’s air defense, it doesn’t have much importance for the supply of S-300, apparently they will not, in the Russian Ministry of Defense smart pros will not spoil the image of S-300.
    Everyone remembers how the best Soviet Syrian air defense systems were destroyed in 1982, led by Colonel General G. Yashkin, the chief adviser, on the pages of this site:
    ,, Operation "Peace of Galilee": Israeli Air Force against Syrian air defense, under the command of Soviet officers ,,
    https://topwar.ru/39644-operaciya-mir-galilee-vvs
    -izrailya-protiv-pvo-sirii-pod-komandovaniem-sove
    tskih-officerov-chast-1.html
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 11: 34
      "... smart professionals in the Russian Defense Ministry will not spoil the image of the S-300."

      As ordered so it will be ...
    2. +3
      April 26 2018 11: 36
      No need to wave a saber, the interests of your country are always taken into account by Russia. It’s not necessary to think about the image of three hundred, but how to break off one’s teeth as a result of ill-considered actions. It's about Israeli teeth.
    3. 0
      April 26 2018 11: 45
      Quote: alta
      Everyone remembers how the best Soviet Syrian air defense systems were destroyed in 1982, led by Colonel General G. Yashkin, the chief adviser, on the pages of this site:

      Flaunt?
    4. +5
      April 26 2018 11: 49
      But doomsday war do not remember? or in infancy didn’t they study history like that? Here is the information for you to be very proud of: Israeli losses in technology: from 109 to 120 planes and helicopters shot down or crashed, about 20 more were written off due to damage [80], 15 UAVs [81] [10] [11], irretrievable losses of armored vehicles amounted to 540 tanks and 265 armored personnel carriers on the southern front and 300 tanks and 135 armored personnel carriers on the northern front [82] [11]. The total losses of the Israeli fleet are unknown, it is known that 4 boats were destroyed and 1 tanker was lost. [83] [84]

      During the Doomsday War, Israel lost 2522-3020 dead, 7500-12 wounded, 000-326 people were captured [530] [11] [12]. According to Arab claims, Israel lost 85 people dead and 8000 wounded. [20000]

      Under the agreement on the exchange of prisoners, Israel managed to return the prisoners, many of them left with disabilities [87].

      According to Pierre Razox, the Israeli casualties amounted to: the Egyptian front of 2082 killed, 4555 wounded and 257 prisoners, the Syrian front of 938 killed, 3580 wounded and 69 prisoners. The death toll includes those who died from wounds, and those who were missing and not found.

      During the war, a large number of high-ranking Israeli officers were killed and captured. Asaf Jaguri submarine (October 8), Amnon Arad submarine (October 11), Avraham Lanir submarine (October 13), Guri Palter submarine (October 18) ), n / a Moshe Bartov (October 20).

      Died: Major General Adam Mandler, regiment Yitzhak Ben-Shoham, regiment Lev Arlazor, regiment Ehud Shelah, regiment Amnom Rimon, regiment David Israel, regiment to Ben Zion Carmeli, n / a Ehud Hankin. [88] [89]

      Several samples of captured Western equipment were sent to the Soviet Union. Among them were the latest western tanks and one unmanned aerial vehicle. [90] For the first time, Arabs managed to seize large numbers of Israeli weapons. [91] hi
    5. +3
      April 26 2018 13: 03
      Quote: alta
      Everyone remembers how the Syrian air defense was destroyed in 1982.

      Yes, we remember how all of Israel’s military power was rained down on several already obsolete anti-aircraft missile systems, which occupy vulnerable positions and have combat readiness near the baseboard due to complete Arab indifference (which, however, could not prevent them from shooting down 34 Israeli aircraft).

      Do not go wild - supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda is better for you than fighting a real opponent.
    6. +2
      April 26 2018 14: 36
      the best Soviet Syrian air defense in 1982
      Are you serious?
      What happened in the Bekaa Valley was discussed a lot and seriously. There were many reasons for the defeat, if you want to discuss them again, please. Personally, I, as a citizen of Israel, am quite pleased that the technique among the Syrians was not very modern, and its use was lower than the baseboard.
    7. +1
      April 26 2018 14: 46
      We like the story of the walk on October 13, 1973 of Major Vertieviec Alexander Danilovich on the MIG-25 over Tel Aviv and the wet pants of Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan. Even then, the history of this quasi-state was supposed to end.
  12. +4
    April 26 2018 11: 14
    Not yet C-300, but ... Russia supplied Syria with an additional batch of the Pantsir air defense system
    And what is needed too ... Yes
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  14. 0
    April 26 2018 11: 20
    Russian Ambassador to Israel Alexander Shein said that all exciting issues are discussed by representatives of both countries.

    "We have debugged the mechanism of coordination and mutual information in Syria through the ministries of defense of the two countries. So far, there have been no incidents or even hints of incidents. I hope that this will not continue," Shein said to TASS.

    The diplomat noted that Russia always takes into account the interests of Israel in making decisions on the Middle East.

    "Of course, we are concerned about the state in which relations between Israel and Iran are in the light of mutual threats and rejection of each other by each other. We cannot but worry about the state of things between Israel and Iran, which is now in neighboring Syria’s relations with Israel could somehow destabilize and complicate the situation in the Middle East, ”the ambassador added.
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 11: 47
      Quote: danan
      "Of course, we are concerned about the state of relations between Israel

      Tired of these dances with a tambourine around Israel.
    2. 0
      April 26 2018 12: 00
      "... The diplomat noted that Russia always takes into account the interests of Israel in making decisions on the Middle East ..."

      Still, Israel would take into account the interests of Russia ...
      1. +1
        April 26 2018 12: 36
        I don’t know what your media are humming to you there, but Israel is one of the Western countries most favorably disposed towards Russia. Here, many are happy with your successes and there are practically no people seeking confrontation with Russia.
        Peace be with you.
        1. +1
          April 26 2018 17: 36
          Quote: danan
          I don’t know what your media are humming to you there, but Israel is one of the Western countries most favorably disposed towards Russia. Here, many are happy with your successes and there are practically no people seeking confrontation with Russia.
          Peace be with you.

          Perhaps for this reason your instructors trained Georgians in front of 08082008
        2. +1
          April 26 2018 17: 43
          Quote: danan
          I don’t know what your media are humming to you there
          Personally, I judge the specific cases of Israel. And according to the Israeli media, not Russian.

          Israel is one of the most advanced countries in the heat of rampant Russophobia.
          Israel actively supports ISIS, al-Qaeda and the Nazis in Ukraine.
  15. +1
    April 26 2018 11: 23
    If they put the C 300 in Syria, then our military will be sitting at the consoles for at least six months!)
    1. +1
      April 26 2018 11: 31
      Quote: Lesorub
      If they put the C 300 in Syria, then our military will be sitting at the consoles for at least six months!)


      So they will not touch on Israeli attacks on Syria, just as they are doing at the Russian base in Syria right now - they are not interfering.

      But if they hit Israeli planes, then it will not matter to Israel who is sitting there, just like it was in previous Arab Israeli wars.
  16. 0
    April 26 2018 11: 26
    The main thing is not to get out of the estimate. After all, we spend on the Syrian war only the funds allocated for the exercises.
  17. +3
    April 26 2018 11: 31
    The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian C-300 if they would pose a threat to the country's military aviation.

    Impudent, however. They behave like urks who openly boast that they don’t give a damn about laws and morality.
    Stop attacking Syria and there will be no threats to Jewish aviation. S-300 is a defense, the complexes are dangerous only for the aggressor
  18. +1
    April 26 2018 11: 35
    Haaa!

    Aronych, ProfEssor - where are you? your topic.
  19. 0
    April 26 2018 11: 43
    23 missiles shot down by "Shell" + 5 C-125. Total - 28. Who shot down the remaining 43 rockets?
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 12: 32
      Try using a search engine, it’s no more complicated than snatching it out of context.
      On April 16, the representative of the military department, Major General Igor Konashenkov, outlined in detail, of which 71 missiles were formed in total. “At the Duvali airfield, 4 missiles participated in the strike, all shot down. At the Dumeir airfield - 12 missiles, all shot down. There are 18 missiles at Blaey airfield, all shot down. At the Shairat airfield - 12 missiles, all shot down. Airfields were not affected. Of the 9 missiles launched at the unused Mezze airfield, 5 were shot down. Of the 16 missiles at the Homs airfield, 13 were destroyed. No serious damage was observed. 30 missiles participated in striking targets in the area of ​​the settlements of Barz and Jaramani. Of these, 7 missiles were shot down, ”said Konashenkov.

      The calculator is on any Windows platform, I think you can handle it.
      hi
    2. 0
      April 26 2018 16: 02
      There are many more due to electronic warfare lost. Tomahawks always had a problem with orientation on the terrain according to the relief. While they are flying, their EW reliefs are changing ...
    3. 0
      April 26 2018 17: 46
      « When repulsing the strike, a total of 112 anti-aircraft guided missiles were used up. Of them:
      “Shell” - 25 missiles were fired, 23 targets were hit;
      “Buk” - 29 missiles were fired, 24 targets were hit;
      "Wasp" - 11 missiles were fired, 5 targets were hit;
      S-125 - 13 missiles were fired, 5 targets were hit;
      “Arrow-10” - 5 missiles were fired, 3 targets were hit;
      “Square” - 21 missiles were fired, 11 targets were hit;
      S-200 - 8 missiles were fired, no targets were hit. »

      Learning to use search, yes.
  20. +2
    April 26 2018 11: 47
    Again half measures from our leaders. So, surprisingly, standing for a long time will not work - time is working against us. What is the point of shooting down missiles if they are almost endless in number, given the entire coalition. As long as there is no threat of destroying the means of delivery of the Kyrgyz Republic, nothing will change for the better, but will only exacerbate the situation. Since we got involved in a fight, we must fight, not fight back.
  21. +3
    April 26 2018 11: 57
    After all the great were the designers V.P. Gryazev and A.G. Shipunov! Eternal memory to them and Glory !!! hi
  22. 0
    April 26 2018 12: 33
    The Israeli authorities, in turn, promised to destroy the Syrian S-300, if they would pose a threat to the country's military aviation

    And the navel will not get loose? Maybe it's time to close the project called Israel.
    1. +1
      April 26 2018 13: 35
      Well, if you have such an opportunity, then close it. Only Jews have good garters, and excessive pressure on the situation between the Russian Federation and the United States is not desirable.
  23. 0
    April 26 2018 12: 52
    And they are also needed, and how!
  24. +2
    April 26 2018 13: 01
    Quote: danan
    I don’t know what your media are humming to you there, but Israel is one of the Western countries most favorably disposed towards Russia. Here, many are happy with your successes and there are practically no people seeking confrontation with Russia.
    Peace be with you.

    Media regarding Israel behave very correctly.
    Our media are, of course, independent, but they behave "disciplined", most often in accordance with the official position.
    The official position of the Russian Federation regarding Israel is quite constructive.
    And on this site, users are not connected by either an official position or a commercial component.
    Only the scope of rules, legislation and morality.

    PS
    And we will continue to protect allies.
    And they know that.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=343&a
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    mp; v = xSEvQaduQWg
  25. 0
    April 26 2018 13: 26
    Well, to protect them right now, first of all, the shell is more necessary, they are more mobile and efficient + they can work paired on the ground! and for the defense the same 300 will be needed!
  26. 0
    April 26 2018 13: 32
    If the Panzeri was brought, then why, in strict secrecy, were they also taken out with aerosol masking?
  27. 0
    April 26 2018 13: 48
    Quote: social media
    where is the guarantee that the Syrians will not use the C300 against our civilian plane just to provoke a conflict or the Iranians? if the Syrians have c300 they can calmly shoot down our planes throughout the territory of Israel and of course they will do it or the Iranians will do it

    The Syrians seem to have no other problems now fool stop Except for attacking Israel. They still have the north under the Turks, and the oil Eastern regions under the Kurds No. You can sleep well wink You and your senior partners have already taken good care of your safety. ATS of year 2 minimum still to rake all this and restore 5-10 years what
    PS Shoot down a civilian airliner is not the same as a military one. Too much dirt, do not wash off.
  28. 0
    April 26 2018 14: 20
    Quote: prapor75m
    But doomsday war do not remember? or in infancy didn’t they study history like that? Here is the information for you to be very proud of: Israeli losses in technology: from 109 to 120 planes and helicopters shot down or crashed, about 20 more were written off due to damage [80], 15 UAVs [81] [10] [11], irretrievable losses of armored vehicles amounted to 540 tanks and 265 armored personnel carriers on the southern front and 300 tanks and 135 armored personnel carriers on the northern front [82] [11]. The total losses of the Israeli fleet are unknown, it is known that 4 boats were destroyed and 1 tanker was lost. [83] [84]

    During the Doomsday War, Israel lost 2522-3020 dead, 7500-12 wounded, 000-326 people were captured [530] [11] [12]. According to Arab claims, Israel lost 85 people dead and 8000 wounded. [20000]

    Under the agreement on the exchange of prisoners, Israel managed to return the prisoners, many of them left with disabilities [87].

    According to Pierre Razox, the Israeli casualties amounted to: the Egyptian front of 2082 killed, 4555 wounded and 257 prisoners, the Syrian front of 938 killed, 3580 wounded and 69 prisoners. The death toll includes those who died from wounds, and those who were missing and not found.

    During the war, a large number of high-ranking Israeli officers were killed and captured. Asaf Jaguri submarine (October 8), Amnon Arad submarine (October 11), Avraham Lanir submarine (October 13), Guri Palter submarine (October 18) ), n / a Moshe Bartov (October 20).

    Died: Major General Adam Mandler, regiment Yitzhak Ben-Shoham, regiment Lev Arlazor, regiment Ehud Shelah, regiment Amnom Rimon, regiment David Israel, regiment to Ben Zion Carmeli, n / a Ehud Hankin. [88] [89]

    Several samples of captured Western equipment were sent to the Soviet Union. Among them were the latest western tanks and one unmanned aerial vehicle. [90] For the first time, Arabs managed to seize large numbers of Israeli weapons. [91] hi

    You are right, on Judgment Day 1973. when the country is closed: nothing works: aviation, shops, cars do not go, coalition of Arab countries: Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq suddenly attacked Israel.
    The losses of Israel were great, but the Syrian and Egyptian armies were defeated.
    Israeli forces were located 100 km from Cairo and 40 km from Damascus, awaiting orders to capture these capitals.
    Only powerful pressure on Israel from the United States and the Soviets prevented entry into these capitals.
    Israel’s victory in the Doomsday War for many years established the status quo in Bl.Vostok, which lasted almost 40 years before the start of the "Arab Spring", when all the Arab regimes that had once opposed Israel had collapsed.

    An important outcome of the war was the final recognition by the Arabs of their inability to resist the military power of Israel, which finally buried the plans of the Arabs to destroy Israel by military means.
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 14: 31
      I'm not talking about the result !!! but about the loss of your Israel !!! so that the nose does not have to be lifted high if our armies collide or even you decide to undergo a ground operation in Syria, do you think it will be like in a computer game? Israeli soldiers not killed? survived and continue to fight?
      1. +1
        April 26 2018 16: 46
        Well, according to the results of that war, measures to counter air defense were developed in many ways, including UAVs and other tricky things.
    2. 0
      April 26 2018 19: 36
      Quote: alta
      Only powerful pressure on Israel

      As far as this issue was studied, "powerful pressure" was the threat of a nuclear missile strike on Israel. Moreover, the United States was not against it because could not influence the situation. Is there really a desire to repeat?
      1. 0
        April 26 2018 20: 11
        Is there really a desire to repeat? "
        Well, why are you all so stubborn ... Israel and Izr readers only tried to prevent you from making a gross mistake for the sake of your and our future ... And again, you threaten the cores.
        The ambassador’s morning statement in Israel hints that there will be no C300 shipments.
        There is even a "brother to you the Egyptian people" outraged (on foreign) intention
        put the c300 asad.
        ... And it is not stupid to threaten the country, the cat does not have an atom of weapons, but the whole triad of delivery vehicles exists.
        Your enthusiasm for good deeds
        1. 0
          April 26 2018 20: 28
          Quote: danan
          Your enthusiasm for good deeds

          Yes, here, as it were, with pleasure! It’s just that we can’t understand why Israel can fight with those who are really fighting terrorists.
  29. 0
    April 26 2018 14: 32
    Russia Using Electronic Warfare Over the Skies of Syria
    Israel News Live
    US commanders are claiming that Russia may be behind the jamming of the C130 gunships over the skies of Syria. Evidence emerges of child rape according to Seymour Hersh at a military prison.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO6WvGLn6PY
  30. 0
    April 26 2018 15: 58
    According to rumors, the S-500 is already being tested there ... but there is no exact data.
    1. 0
      April 26 2018 16: 21
      There, Antei 4500 is already being tested.
  31. 0
    April 26 2018 17: 50
    Well, in politics everything is based on a balance of power. Any change in the status quo (or an attempt to change it) occurs through exacerbation, during which the forces of the parties are clarified and on this basis either the old alignment is maintained or a new one is formed. No one in their right mind will ever give up either from their advantages or from their interests (a miracle by the name of Gorbachev does not count). By and large, people have not changed much from the primitive communal system. A big war in the BV is unlikely - nobody needs it, but a big war of nerves is already underway, and some "hot" skirmishes are almost inevitable. And what is there - the S-300 or something else, which S-300 (and they are very different) - it makes no sense to guess, but it is not so important. A lot of different factors influence the situation, and most of them are unknown to the general public.
  32. 0
    3 May 2018 14: 26
    Delivery of S-300 systems is the time for this solution! This is a defense of the civilian population and military ATS from “erroneous” and obvious coalition attacks, including shelling by Israel. The enemy will be punished, and if he knows about it, he will be careful not to come close to the border. And the armor will protect the complexes from the "axes".
    In the end, having a reliable rear in the form of the S-300 at the ATS, we can hope that our sub-bases will not be accidentally attacked for all kinds of feathers by Anglo-Saxons and will be supported by fire in case of emergency. Therefore, the faster the better. And first of all, it is beneficial for us. SAR can establish a FIRST zone and ask from Syria a hotbed of terrorism - the United States and Co.
    Yes, and it's time to test these complexes ...

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