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Ankara to Washington: C-400 and F-35 supplies are different topics

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You can not link the supply of Russian ZRS C-400 and American fighter F-35, since these are completely different topics, reports RIA News statement by the head of the secretariat of the defense industry of Turkey, Ismail Demir.




Earlier, Assistant Secretary of State Wess Mitchell said that Ankara’s purchase of C-400 complexes from Russia could adversely affect the delivery of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey.

As for the statements of the United States, then there is a conversation between two serious states (Russia and Turkey) at the presidential level, agreements are signed .. These are different topics (C-400 and F-35). We are partners with the USA on F-35. We will continue our cooperation here and there. We are an independent country and make decisions that are optimal for us and meet our national interests,
Demir told the press.

He added that the agreement with the Russian Federation on C-400 "is being fulfilled, as it should be, there are no problems with it," and Ankara expects the start of deliveries in July of the 2019 year.

According to reports, Ankara is buying two C-400 ZRS batteries, which will be serviced by Turkish personnel. The parties also agreed on technological cooperation in this area for the development of the production system in Turkey.
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  1. BZTM
    BZTM April 26 2018 09: 13
    +10
    We are an independent country and make decisions that are most optimal for us and meet our national interests,
    Well said!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 26 2018 09: 18
      +5
      Everything is logical! Bends its line, but how else?
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter April 26 2018 09: 25
        +5
        Victor, hi! hi
        Quote: rocket757
        Bends its line

        As if the mattresses, together with their European mongrel, would not bend him ...
        1. Sergey985
          Sergey985 April 26 2018 09: 39
          +5
          Tried already, the coup failed.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter April 26 2018 09: 41
            +2
            And what prevents to draw conclusions and stir up a new coup? True, there is no certainty that GDP will not warn Erdogan. wink
            1. Sergey985
              Sergey985 April 26 2018 10: 02
              +2
              It’s possible to stir up, now only in Turkey you can’t find anyone. There, democratically a bullet in the forehead for such immediately allowed.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter April 26 2018 10: 08
                +2
                So after all, mattresses are able to dull the instinct of self-preservation with a sparkle of coins. So I do not exclude the possibility of eliminating Erdogan as an inconvenient politician to Washington. One “but”: if only Erdogan’s behavior is not a performance according to the CIA script.
                1. NIKNN
                  NIKNN April 26 2018 10: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  unless Erdogan’s behavior is a CIA scenario

                  As an option ..., however, after the coup attempt, Erdogan should be dumber than I thought ... but also familiar with their mentality .. I do not believe Erdogan, but even more (from the word at all) I do not believe the United States ... No.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter April 26 2018 10: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    I do not believe Erdogan, but even more (from the word at all) I do not believe the United States ...

                    I completely agree with you, Kolya! drinks
                    1. NIKNN
                      NIKNN April 26 2018 10: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      I completely agree with you, Kolya!

                      drinks
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 April 26 2018 10: 02
              +2
              Hello pash soldier
              For some reason, I decided that a calm week at the floor will be so ??? And then spring, a tooth fell ill and away we go!
              And now I want to swear and to someone from the "friendly" side to be rude!
              In short, a "cheerful", "pre-holiday" mood ... which I don’t want anyone else, in general!
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter April 26 2018 10: 06
                +2
                I feel sorry for the tooth, but I haven’t tried it for the gearmaker? Or do you have a phobia resistant to them (like mine)?
                Quote: rocket757
                For some reason, I decided that a calm week at that will be so?

                No, Vitya, the “partners” will not let us get bored. yes
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 April 26 2018 10: 32
                  +2
                  Yes, I have a personal Tooth Fairy! I love him so much, I love him so much !!!! At when we are sitting at the same table, we are tasting a little white .... and in his office all his love, for some reason, disappears like morning fog!
                  Spring! And so I want Schaub all is well, it was blessed! Not fate, we can only dream of peace! "Partners" of course ... but I have long been able to pronounce the word et only through gritted teeth !!! Which also hurts!
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter April 26 2018 10: 37
                    +2
                    For all my dislike of dentists, at the end of winter, I gritted my teeth with a “routine MOT”, a jabber. And the word "partners" has long been abusive and almost obscene to me.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 April 26 2018 11: 08
                      +2
                      This is how they force us to distort our native language, concepts!
                      Shaw remains unchanged and constant? Folklore!
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter April 26 2018 11: 09
                        +2
                        Well, our folklore is also rich in catchy words. repeat
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 26 2018 10: 04
            +4
            Yes, then Russia surrendered the rebellious officers acting under the Turkish constitution ("the army is obliged to take power into its own hands in the face of the threat of Islamization of the country").
            Saved Erdogan. Although he then stuck a knife in the back, he quickly pulled it out.
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            2. rocket757
              rocket757 April 26 2018 10: 39
              +2
              Took out ??? This is somehow funny, if someone believed in it!
              We will be realistic, we teach the mat part \ history! He brought for the next blow and .... waiting!
      2. Slovak
        Slovak April 26 2018 11: 37
        +1
        S-400 and F-35, just one topic, it is like a thread with a needle. New slogan: Give each F-35 S-400!
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan April 27 2018 09: 11
      +1
      Colleagues, there is a debate in the US over the sanctions law for third countries trading with Russia ...
      Buy our democratic modern airplanes or their (i.e. ours) medieval, backward complexes ...
      Turkey produces 54% of all weapons. He buys the rest: in recent years, more than $ 50 billion. spent ...
  2. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii April 26 2018 09: 14
    +6
    Indeed, some to fly, others to shoot them down.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 26 2018 09: 23
      +3
      soldier Hey.
      And who can say that the Sultan should be stupid?
      Look around, so he is consistent in his actions, despite the fact that the person is "hot", eastern blood!
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 26 2018 10: 26
        +4
        Hi hi bends its line. And rightly so.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 26 2018 11: 05
          +2
          Schaub there wasn’t fussed on all sides, but he would get his own rating in his country, from his people! And that's right!
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 26 2018 09: 15
    +3
    Tomatoes separately, flies separately!
    Such a "fellow traveler" .... I want to believe that they understand at the top that he is just that ???
  4. Egorovich
    Egorovich April 26 2018 09: 19
    +2
    The Turks are trying to get out of submission, but whether that works out is a big question.
  5. Altona
    Altona April 26 2018 09: 23
    +2
    For some reason, I do not see Golovan Jack's comments on this article. He is such a lover of delirium with us, and illogics, too. Never comments on articles and news on the merits. hi
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 26 2018 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Today, 09: 23
      For some reason, I don’t see Golovan Jack’s comments on this article.

      Golovan work is working.
      Quote: Altona
      Never comments on articles and news on the merits

      Well, is there anything to comment on? The client "walks around the market" and chooses where to buy something: for some - an airplane, for others - a racket ... routine request
  6. YELLOWSTONE
    YELLOWSTONE April 26 2018 09: 32
    +2
    well, at least someone communicates with them correctly
  7. Bypassed
    Bypassed April 26 2018 09: 45
    +2
    Turks traders are still those.
    If for American planes they have to pay in cash, in cash, the supply of anti-aircraft missiles has already been paid by Russia, not Turkey. And about the question of repaying debts, I’m embarrassed to ask - which country in that region returned the debts of Russia?
    1. Carib
      Carib April 26 2018 10: 39
      +2
      Mattresses know that the F35 from the C400 will not hide. And they know that the Turks will find out at the very first exercises. And they will trumpet it all over the world. And no one else will buy the F35 ...
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 26 2018 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: PASSED BY
      anti-aircraft missile supplies already paid by Russia, not Turkey

      A little bit wrong. Turkey took a loan from the Russian Federation and paid for missiles with this loan. A tied (target) loan is quite an ordinary thing, the States also indulge in this. Did you not know? Strange ...
      Quote: PASSED BY
      I’m embarrassed to ask - which country in that region returned the debts of Russia?

      Wrong question. The correct one is “was there a case for Turkey not to repay the loan of the Russian Federation”?
      As far as I remember, this was not. And therefore, it will not.
      That's about as yes
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 26 2018 10: 00
    +3
    On good, it's time to expel from NATO.
    The country has departed from the principles of Ataturk, drifting slowly to Islamism.
    Your path is legitimate. But it has little in common with NATO.
    1. protoss
      protoss April 27 2018 00: 21
      0
      and how are the "principles of Ataturk" related to membership in NATO?
  9. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter April 26 2018 10: 12
    +2
    What would happen if the coup in Turkey still happened? I suppose there is nothing good for us and Syria. So the GDP did right that it helped the Sultan. So our intelligence regarding the prediction of the future does not work badly laughing
  10. Altona
    Altona April 26 2018 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    On good, it's time to expel from NATO.

    -----------------------------------
    The very topic of “expelling from NATO” is interesting. Germany, for example, often refuses to participate in NATO's military adventures. He remembers how, with Nazism, the West blew it to its ears in blood and other dirt that you will never wash yourself off. The notorious 5 point itself (one for all and all for one) is also already a declaration. I want to fight, I want to not fight, as the parliament will see whether it fits into the general war or not. NATO is more an instrument of coercion and legal justification for the presence of the US military (bases or just soldiers) throughout Europe. In general, NATO is an instrument of occupation. Moreover, Trump demands that occupation be self-sustaining, such a paradox. But what about? West and east arbayters must carry a pretty penny, sorry, centik, shilling, pfennig, crown, zloty to the great American king.
    PS Alexei, when the great and capable Israel will abandon the American free shekels? wink
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 26 2018 10: 39
      0
      "can Israel refuse American free shekels?" ///

      At any time. You do not seem to understand that Israel today
      powerful economically country. With a runway of over 320 billion dollars and
      stable annual growth of 3-4%.
      American military assistance is a small appendage. We can refuse it.
      But it is beneficial to both us and the Americans, as it includes important joint military projects. In the most strategic areas (except for nuclear weapons).

      “I want to fight, I want to not fight, as the parliament will see whether or not to fit into the general war” ///

      Not certainly in that way. When they decide whether a company or battalion has settled in Afghanistan,
      a country may refuse for some reason.
      But when the question arises of survival (a major war), then there will be no special sentiments. Will force.
      1. jncnfdybr
        jncnfdybr April 26 2018 11: 04
        +3
        Well, so refuse. Or, what does not allow you to refuse freebies?)
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 26 2018 11: 10
          0
          I wrote why it is beneficial to both us and America.
          Israel gets the latest weapons with access to software
          code and technology. Americans profit from
          joint projects and Israeli patents and technical solutions.
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov April 26 2018 11: 41
          +1
          Quote: jncnfdybr
          Well, so refuse. Or, what does not allow you to refuse freebies?)


          Sense to refuse really? They give - take it, especially since Israel receives all this stuff under the Camp David agreement. At the same level with Egypt.
  11. MIG00001
    MIG00001 April 26 2018 10: 28
    0
    correctly let them buy from us awakens the opportunity to adapt their s400-s500 for F35
  12. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 26 2018 11: 35
    0
    We are an independent country and make decisions that are most optimal for us and meet our national interests,
    Demir told the press.
    No. It doesn’t happen. This he can say with an eye on the internal audience, but in reality Turkey is a member of NATO, therefore, it has to pursue a policy with an eye to the charter and rules of this organization.
  13. EnGenius
    EnGenius April 26 2018 12: 40
    0
    Turkey is one of the counterparties for the production of F35. Therefore, in the first place, they hoped to make money on the project, and in the future, to purchase about 100 aircraft. At the very least, it is extremely unprofitable for Turkey to lose part of the production income, but they can refuse to purchase new aircraft or greatly reduce the number of aircraft purchased.
  14. Angara
    Angara April 26 2018 12: 50
    0
    Trying to sit on two chairs? what