The F-35 flew with a part printed on an 3D printer. Stealth parameters are not affected?

The officer of the US Marine Corps air wing Daniel Rodriguez flew the F-35B fighter, in which one of the parts was printed on an 3D printer. It is reported that we are talking about the printed part of the bumper on the chassis of the fighter.

In the American press it is reported that in the 121 th fighter squadron of the US Marine Corps, it was decided to experiment with the 3D printer against the background of wear parts, the replacement of which involved the replacement and the entire site. This required a lot of time.

Портал DefenseNews reports that the sergeant Adrian Willis, a representative of the Marine Corps, instead of waiting for weeks for the entire F-35B site to be replaced, decided to offer the 3D print. The commission in the body of the US Navy checked the received part and approved it for installation on a fighter.

From the statement of Willis:

I think 3D printing is definitely the future.

If 3D printing is the future of fighter aviation in the USA, does this mean that in the USA they are sure that when using printed parts the stealth characteristics of the F-35 will not change for the worse?

The commander of the unit noted that in this case it is important to combine such parameters as the reliability of the obtained part, and saving time and money.

Willis' team is now working on 3D-printing a part for a ground-based mini-camera lens cap.drone iRobot 310.

Comments

[Vol4ara]

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

[Svarog]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

Of course We do not produce anything, even machines have not learned how to make in 20 years. The cuts are continuous, but everywhere they say that a breakthrough, but in fact zilch .. Let's tell the pseudo patriots about our achievements .. The Chinese are already catching up with the Koreans in terms of quality and design ..

[Hire]

You poured a muddy stream of your consciousness and expect someone to answer you and prove something? Well, so you waited!

[figwam]

instead of waiting for weeks for the entire F-35B assembly to replace

Now I understand why half of the f-35 is not combat ready.

[YELLOWSTONE]

you need to buy a printer from the Chinese and the Indians print program F-35
Now it’s clear why they suspended FGFA

[sabakina]

Quote: YELLOWSTONE

you need to buy a printer from the Chinese and the Indians print program F-35
Now it’s clear why they suspended FGFA

Yeah, and I’ll try to get the password out of torture! Yeah, right now, I'm already in the mud!

[Inok10]

Quote: sabakina

Yeah, and I’ll try to get the password out of torture! Yeah, right now, I'm already in the mud!

P.S. ... and, seriously ... now the "river" ... "artificial intelligence" is more important than "hypersound" ... do you feel cunning ?! ...

[Mwg]

But what their AI thinks about Russian "enemies"))))

[YELLOWSTONE]

Russian hackers will unlock

[Samosad]

Why talk? Better to ask, are you not the one who walks in lace shorts from one country?

[Hire]

it was decided to experiment with a 3D printer on the background of wear parts

Oh killed, the "experimenters"! Learn miserable!

[SPACE]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

https://www.topwar.ru/amp:127513-stankostroenie-v
-sovremennoy-rossii.html

Quote: Vol4ara

3d printers

3D printers are not serious nonsense, they are unsuitable for mass production, slow, costly, the parts obtained are not reliable and not functional, 3D printers are only suitable for working out models before launching the part into real, practical production, or as in the form of new-fashioned high school toys.

[voyaka uh]

You can summarize your post: everything is wrong. From the first to the last thesis.
Congratulations!

[SPACE]

Quote: voyaka uh

You can summarize your post: everything is wrong. From the first to the last thesis.

Leading experts and developers, the largest company in the world where I have the honor to work, do not agree with you
Z.Y. You remind me of young and enthusiastic students with newfangled coziness, whom I sometimes have to teach and bring to the ground from the world of dreams, for a couple of days even for the most stubborn, reality and facts sober up anyone.

[Spec]

Quote: SPACE

3D printers are not serious nonsense, they are unsuitable for mass production, slow, costly, the parts obtained are not reliable and not functional, 3D printers are only suitable for working out models before launching the part into real, practical production, or as in the form of new-fashioned high school toys.

Photo right now from my home workshop. Yes, not mass production, but the fact that the store costs hundreds, if not thousands, costs me ten to fifty times cheaper. Three printers eat in a month as two laptops, i.e. less than an electric kettle, even slightly less than a stationary computer. The cost of all three together is slightly higher than 30 tr. This is the cost. Quality depends on print settings. Strength depends on the material used, PLA plastic is enough for me. Everything is eco-friendly. Those. it is essentially corn starch. The outer shell of the thermos is just printed on the photo. 1kg costs 700 rubles. In general, the future has already come, I recommend changing the stone ax to a laser epilator;)

[midivan]

Quote: Spez

Photo right now from my home workshop. Yes, not mass production, but the fact that the store costs hundreds, if not thousands, costs me ten to fifty times cheaper. Three printers eat in a month as two laptops, i.e. less than an electric kettle, even slightly less than a stationary computer. The cost of all three together is slightly higher than 30 tr.

A F-35 can? Seriously, I was surprised, but in terms of strength, what about metal this shaitan machine can, well, for example, a bolt at least 4.6 strength categories and how long does it take to manufacture and how is this thing programmed, will it be difficult for a teapot to program (complete)? Well, a personal question, what is the thermos case for you if the flask usually quacks and doesn’t seem to you that you are hammering nails with a microscope? and a serious personal question is where to buy and how and where to learn it? PS Damn, I really fucked up now only 30 wooden tyrov and you are the owner of such an interesting thing in the days have come!

[Spec]

And the F-35 can, but small, and will only fly with a kick)))
It is these balalaikas that I have that can print four or five (I do not remember exactly) types of plastic, right down to the strings for the lawn mower. The main thing is that the bar diameter is 1.5-1.75 mm and the melting temperature is not higher than 290 degrees. For metal printing, a shaitan-arba is required at a cost of 10 llamas. Unfortunately, it’s not on my budget, and even to make bolts on it, as well as a sparrow gun, an MFP with a CNC will do better and faster. Printed plastics with steels, even low-alloyed, cannot yet compete. This is a question about a microscope ;-)
A stainless steel thermos flask, but the case with the screw cap has staggered, plus the shape of the case is drawn according to needs, exclusive, so to speak. The cost of a printed case with a cover is about 70 rubles. Printing time is about seven hours. On average parameters in speed and quality. The cost of a new half-liter thermo mug is about 600 rubles, maybe even higher.
30 wooden for three, but not for one, by the way. For 12 he took the first one, he paid off with two orders in four days. Three weeks later, he earned the other two, which turned out to be taken at a discount of 9.500. The Chinese are the Chinese ... If interested, then the rest is in PM.

[midivan]

Quote: Spez

Printed plastics with steels, even low-alloyed, cannot yet compete.

I asked what, here at the moment I pick the sprinter gelding from him, his front spring is one (standing across) 3-4 cm thick, the reptile goes It’s very interesting, if we don’t burden you, then we’ll talk and I’ll torment you a little with questions

[Spec]

no problem!

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Spez

Printed plastics with steels, even low-alloyed, cannot yet compete. This is a question about a microscope ;-)

Yes. just have printers for steel

[Spec]

there ...

Quote: Spez

For metal printing, a shaitan-arba is required at a cost of lyamo 10. Not according to my budget, unfortunately, and to make bolts on it, as well as from a gun on sparrows

[SPACE]

Thermos cover I was scanned and printed on an 3D printer, broken on a car wash, a panel diffuser grille on a car, but I still do not understand what you can admire here

[Spec]

Admire ?! This was admired about five years ago. For me now it’s a daily routine of how to go to a stall across the road for cigarettes. This is ALREADY in our reality, this is not fiction, but a convenient tool for more simple and quick results. Almost like a phone or email, or a mobile bank. I mean, that these are not toys for the elite, but a tool available to everyone. For any budget, depending on goals and objectives. And in industrial production 3D printers are no longer a curiosity, like plasma cutters and lasers and other CNCs in the eighties. Everything is working. Use the search engine (the technology is also fabulous, agree ;-), and many questions will disappear by themselves))

[SPACE]

Quote: Spez

Admire ?! This was admired about five years ago. For me, now it’s a household thing

Correctly, there is a daily routine for individual and piece crafts, when there is nothing to do, which is up to an industrial thermoplastic machine, like to China with cancer.

[Spec]

Yes, injection molding machines now rule. In your market sector. But they have limitations, primarily on the size of the monolithic part that can be manufactured on them, and on the time of preparation for the production of the final product. 3d printers, in fact, is their development. More precisely, the lateral branch. They successfully complement each other.

[SPACE]

Quote: Spez

More precisely, the lateral branch. They successfully complement each other.

At our place, 3д makes models for research and experiments, as well as molds for thermoplastics and dies for casting or stamping light alloy metals under pressure, and tooling. A simple example, a line for water spilling in PET with a capacity of up to 30000 thousand bottles / hour consumes the same number of primitive covers. So the industrial scale and the 3 printer are even close incompatible, but as an auxiliary tool for the above purposes, individual crafts and creativity, a good solution, no more, until they invent a nuclear molecular 3 printer with the ability to create materials at the level of a crystal lattice .

[Spec]

A simple example, you need ten thousand bottles of Klein ... per month. Material, e.g. Teflon or Teflon

[Spec]

or else, for example, an artificial human organ, such as a heart or kidney, printed on one printer using several materials with different properties. No mechanical or welded joints, completely monolithic structure. A technology that allows you to significantly reduce the cost of a product, while increasing its reliability and service life. Already a reality. Yes, while small-scale production, but it is no longer Faberge piece eggs.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Svarog

The Chinese are already catching up with Koreans in both quality and design ..

I swear by my mother, YES

[73bor]

To these figures, the worse the better! Along the way, they even orgasm for it. Only somehow it doesn’t agree with the facts, here the miserable devotees come forward!

[XXXIII]

Quote: Svarog

Let's pseudo patriots tell us about our achievements ..

We can when we want ....

[reservist]

Quote: Vol4ara

Do we produce 3D printers?

[Maki Avellevich]

in the video - "body rigidity dampens vibrations .."
interesting. I would like to understand how it turns out so for them ... for all humanoids, it is necessary to dampen the vibrations "soft" than that and the rigid structure can cope with this.
I wouldn’t be in a hurry to buy their printer, the more so because the lids

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

in the video - "body rigidity dampens vibrations .."

You did not have to drive in a broken Russian auto classics? VAZ 2107, 2109 with variations?
When the rigidity of mounting panels and torpedoes from the body is lost, vibration begins.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: stalkerwalker

You did not have to drive in a broken Russian auto classics? VAZ 2107, 2109 with variations?
When the rigidity of mounting panels and torpedoes from the body is lost, vibration begins.

vibration is from the very beginning. just what appears to rattle.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

vibration is from the very beginning. just what appears to rattle.

Dmitry .. I’ll say simpler - vibration, it is like a devastation. Not current in the heads, but also in other places ...

[73bor]

In the last two years, 16 factories were launched specifically for machine tool construction! Another thing is that software is not ours - this is the problem!

[Mih1974]

But just software and not a problem, in St. Petersburg there is a company they already write programs for our machines, and if they write a task (money), they will write for imported ones .. There is still the problem of “linking” those who can and those who need it (and are willing to pay).

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vol4ara

Do we produce CNC machines and 3D printers?

Everything is good and developing ... on 3D printers ... PICASO 3D, Magnum, Hercules Strong, PrintBox3D One, ...
The first Russian manufacturer of still poorly presented stereolithographic 3D printers - devices that print with liquid photopolymer resins instead of rods. Currently offers two models using DLP projectors - Russian DLP and Starlight 3D, as well as several photopolymer compositions.

Russian scientists will present at the beginning of 2018 the world's first 3D printer for printing with three metals, RIA Novosti was told in the Foundation for Advanced Research (FPI).

On CNC machines, everything is also being developed and produced.

[Tusv]

Everything is good and developing ... on 3D printers ...

Andryukha !. It remains to print Pvoshnikov on a 3D printer and there will be no war

[Arakius]

Quote: NEXUS

PICASO 3D, Magnum, Hercules Strong, PrintBox3D One, ...

Are the original Russian names classified?

[Spec]

I will add that SLM technology has been mastered and there are already serial models of printers that print with metal. Even several at once.

[sabakina]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

Um ... Do you want to replace your belongings?

[iouris]

Quote: Vol4ara

Do we produce CNC machines and 3D printers?

And what we just do not produce: so much garbage remains, soon there will be nothing to breathe.

[midivan]

Quote: iouris

And what we just do not produce: so much garbage remains, soon there will be nothing to breathe.

That's for sure, divorced you on the site do not breathe already

[Cheldon]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

The Americans bought a new fighter from the Russians. Collected - it turned out a torpedo boat. Dismantled, assembled - boat. Dismantled, assembled - boat. They call for Russian help, they say, it doesn’t work. The Russians send their specialist, he is locked in the hangar. Three days later he opens the gate - there is a fighter. The Americans are perplexed, it turned out the same boat. Russian: “it’s written in the instructions - before assembling the parts to process the file.”

The Japanese stole the drawings of the tank from the Russians. Collected - a fighter. Dismantled, assembled - fighter. Dismantled, assembled - fighter. They stole the Russian specialist, put them in the lab, said: “Whatever you want to do, we will protect you from the State Security Service and your place of residence in Japan, and as much as you want, just collect it, otherwise we will only get a fighter.” He took special drawings, turned it like that, then calls on the Japanese engineers and says: “Do you see a footnote? It is written - after assembly, modify the product with a file. "

The Americans stole the drawings of the fighter from the Russians. Collected - a steam locomotive. Dismantled, assembled - a steam locomotive! What to do, they stole a Russian specialist. The specialist takes the drawing, looks, looks and says: "In the same place below in small print: after assembly, process with a file."

[Spec]

We produce.

[mvg]

What I saw - maid in Finland and Italy, I have never seen Made in Russia. Even at the Kirov plant in St. Petersburg.

[midivan]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

[23424636]

right - machine tool industry. An industry that the CIA has prioritized for destruction. .And it seemed obliging crooks that unique plants were felled in Kiev and in St. Petersburg. So the Kiev machine-gun factory produced machine tools (KA-608) for the production of shells for multiple launch rocket systems from an unknown country. Leningrad plant named after Sverdlov - unique coordinate boring machines export - to 60 countries of the world - destroyed (arson and closure). At the Krasnodar Plant named after Sedin, cheerful Americans first went in and bought all thinking staff through an emergency at him and then closed it. And the Ivanovo plant, the pride of the industry, lies at the bottom. the desire of Dimon and CO to revive the industry in conditions of sanction is a ridiculous attempt to comrades who are far from reality. Fortunately, only South Korea remained, which can supply high-tech equipment. as for this thing Z D printer. In order to understand the meaning of this infusion, you need to think about what metal is and its properties, heat treatment and others, as for plastic and other carbon fiber stuff, the cost of their manufacture in this garbage is critical. Yes, it is possible to produce molds, but products on it are already crazy money. In short -advertising for drank dough

[73bor]

Now I understand why the F-35 was adopted, the Latino pilots, try to modify it with a file!

[Livonetc]

Quote: Vol4ara

And how about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Do we produce CNC machines and 3 printers?

We produce.
And near Pereslavl there is a high-tech production that has pushed German manufacturers away from major projects in the oil industry in the north.

[NIKNN]

Serious movement ... Patent and assign generation 5 ++ to the aircraft

[voyaka uh]

For 3-dimensional printing the future, if you still do not understand it. Turners, milling machines, drillers will soon not be needed along with their machines. Moreover, specialists of the highest qualification who can do the most complex details will not be needed.
All sorts of simple blanks will continue to be made by low-level workers.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

For 3-dimensional printing the future, if you still do not understand it. Turners, milling machines, drillers will not be needed soon with their machines

A warrior, if not a secret: what exactly do you have to do with metallurgy and metalworking?

[Spec]

Even if none, he is still right in many ways. I do not know, unfortunately or fortunately.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Spez

he is still right in many ways

Especially here, og:

Quote: voyaka uh

Turners, milling machines, drillers will not be needed soon with their machines

Quote: Spez

About monocrystals it is not said there, but for three years now turbine blades have been printing both at GE and Siemens ...

From Al-Ti. This is an alloy, the metal structure there ... is secondary.
And then - the article says (just) about the "test plans" of these blades in real engines. That is - "the street is going, someday it will be."
And the fact that it is more convenient to print a spatula than to cast it is clear to the hedgehog.
Only while they learned how to make products, outwardly similar to real. No more

[Spec]

There, about serial production is also mentioned, but oh well, that's not the point. Explain the teapot on the fingers. Alumotitanium alloy is not a single crystal, it is understandable. Printing blades from various alloys mastered, and not only in Siemens, but also with us, it seems. It is not clear why you are going to print a single crystal on a printer? Well, it's like frying potatoes with a soldering iron, in my opinion ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Spez

Why are you going to print a single crystal on a printer?

This is not "I am going." Education does not allow me to offer this.
This was in response to the original:

Quote: voyaka uh

There is no problem printing and turbine blades ...

... as an example of what is obviously impossible to get with a tri-de-printer.

Quote: Spez

it's like frying potatoes with a soldering iron, in my opinion ...

This is even worse ... it's about how to fry potatoes ... by forging, for example. And what? There, too, heat is released

[Spec]

Nevertheless, the blades print, albeit not from single crystals, but from alloys, but already. With potatoes there were several more problems)))

[NIKNN]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Only while they learned how to make products that look similar to real ones. No more

As for the blades, yes, at the moment the material with the necessary properties cannot be printed because molecular printing is not yet available, today the role of 3D printing in the manufacture of blades is to create molds for castings ...

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Golovan Jack

And the fact that it is more convenient to print a spatula than to cast it is clear to the hedgehog.
Only while they learned how to make products that look similar to real ones. No more

look through to the end, evaluate the machine and tell me if the part is similar to the “real” one?

[abrakadabre]

For 3-dimensional printing the future, if you still do not understand it.

I’m trying to imagine a hardware or bearing factory in 3D printing. I can’t ... Alas ...

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: abrakadabre

I’m trying to imagine a hardware or bearing factory in 3D printing. I can’t ... Alas ...

I agree with you, but in the unit engine, not everyone immediately saw the potential,

[NIKNN]

Until they invent molecular printing with the ability to create intense crystalline structures, your fantasies will not come true ... Well, for example, try printing a diamond ...

[Herculesic]

And one jester, even if you print a half-plane on a 3D printer, the price will not change, because you don’t spoil the client! Now they and the pilots will begin to stamp on the 3D printer, because there is a shortage of men, and those who have in the USA have completely refined their manhood!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Herkulesich

male dignity totally reformed in the usa

The etymology of the word "refinished" do not explain?
Good evening yeah

[Herculesic]

Novel In other words, dead! So I hope you will understand!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Herkulesich

In other words, died

I understood the meaning. And I know the word "atrophy".
But

Quote: Herkulesich

refined

I liked it more

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Golovan Jack

I understood the meaning. And I know the word "atrophy".
But
Quote: Herkulesich
refined

Hello, diplomas!
Verifying word - аtrophy ....
Ehhh, tammy......(with)

[sabakina]

Vitalyevich, maybe all the same "otrafirovalsya"?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: sabakina

maybe all the same "codified"?

paraffin
refined
Still a lot of options, but reluctance in the bath

[S_Baykala]

The chassis (I don’t know the "bumper chassis" parameter) is "hiding" in the fuselage? Then, most likely, the stealth parameters will not be affected. And why don't our military pay attention to such an experience? Can you just do anything, but in this case I’m somehow not very drawn to joking or “trolling” them.

[keeper03]

And without it fitting Wouldn't the Fi-35 fly at all ?! Nakoy, is he needed there at all?

[Thunderbolt]

Simple, great!
When they advance in the field of "artificial intelligence", they will print not only details, but Denov Rodriguezov!

[helmi8]

It is reported that this is a printed bumper parts on fighter chassis.

Well??? It could be cut out with a jigsaw and turned around with a file. Is it weak to print the landing gear? I would like to look at that kamikaze rationalizer.

wear of the part, the replacement of which involved the replacement of the entire assembly.

Well, now it’s clear where the prices for this pepelats come from ... Due to the small details - change the entire assembly. However...

[Grandfather Eugene]

Quote: helmi8

Is it weak to print the landing gear?

Judging because the Americans are not sitting idle, such a moment will come.

[Dormidont]

I blinded him out of what was

[lance]

interestingly someone will say to ragozin, since he does not want to pay a normal salary to the star workers, he may switch to a 3D printer. or the FSB, following the example of Stalin, will introduce all key (assembly) points.

[APASUS]

Such a double impression of the news, I’ll tell you
It seems to be necessary to rejoice, but the material shows that the Americans themselves do not really trust this technology, did they send the Mexican to test?

[sabakina]

It is reported that we are talking about the printed part of the bumper on the chassis of the fighter.

If I print a bumper car for 3 D .... How much will it cost? Not guys, with this 3D it's obviously not clean ...

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: sabakina

If a car bumper is printed for me on 3 D .... How much will it cost?

Vyacheslav .... You need pens, pens ... Epoxy glue, metal mesh from the inside in the place of a crack or break, putty, primer and paint with enamel ....
"Hold on tight to the steering wheel, chauffeur ...."

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: sabakina

Not guys, this 3 is clearly not clean ...

Everything is unclean with him. I don’t understand why everyone is so worn with this printer. If I suppose I grind a part from a piece of disc, then they stupidly increase it. I do not see a fundamental difference. And I will make a bumper for you out of cardboard and any configuration, epoxy obol, and all the short-lived. Back in the 80, as a child in Young Technique, motorcycle helmet manufacturing technologies were printed. Good evening.

[voyaka uh]

"they are stupidly building up here. I don’t see a fundamental difference" ///

It’s a pity you don’t see. This is a revolution in approach. "Growing" parts from scratch.
How many machines do you need to process the disc? Grind, mill, all kinds of bevels, holes. How many workers? And then none of this is required.
And the manufacture of molds for castings? Neither molds nor castings are needed.
If you want the profession of the future for your children, then this is a technician for the maintenance and repair of 3-dimensional printers. They have a lot of moving mechanics - there is work.

[Mordvin 3]

Well, in general, wait and see. These printers cannot replace bulk stamping. Although in the workshop this thing will not be superfluous, that's for sure.

Quote: voyaka uh

Grind, mill, all kinds of bevels, holes. How many workers?

So I'm talking about too. If I need to drill holes in a meter long, for example, then I will take a blank and turn on the drilling machine for a couple of minutes, and I will not grow this blank in the printer. In general, everything needs to be calculated.

[Spec]

About the mold for casting is not entirely true. A master model is printed on the printer, according to which they mold the mold in the old fashioned way. It turns out more precisely than to be carried by the hands of a sculptor or a turner / milling machine operator, and cheaper than cutting on CNC. For one-piece forms, models of water-soluble or low-melting plastics are used, but the forms themselves, as a rule, are rarely printed on 3D printers, and mainly for cold casting.

[Spec]

clamp down on progressive technology)))

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Spez

clamp down on progressive technology)))

Smiled. In the USSR, the plunger was one of the tools of the auto-thieves. The windshields were removed with his help.)

[abrakadabre]

If a car bumper is printed for me on 3 D .... How much will it cost?

It will not be expensive. Just the printing process will be very leisurely. If the lid of a thermos is printed for 7 hours, then a whole bumper.

[Spec]

the lid was baked for half an hour, by the way ... And I'm sure that with your hands you could do everything faster and more accurately

[abrakadabre]

the lid was baked for half an hour, by the way ... And I'm sure that with your hands you could do everything faster and more accurately

1. Wrong comparison. It is necessary to compare not with hands, but with continuous industrial production.
2. Lid tolerances are completely different from those required for serious products. And this means that you will have to print in ultra-thin layers. Which progressively increases print time. In this case, all the same, the cleanliness of the surfaces will not be conditional.

Technology has a niche. This is no one denies. But not more.

[Spec]

1. The comparison is correct. The conversation began not with a thousand bumpers, but with just one thing, why drag in-line industrial production? I needed only one cap, and it cost me tens of times cheaper and faster than if it were from the assembly line or with my hands.
2. The cap without gasket seals the neck. This is important to me, because I love hot coffee, moreover, in a mug, and not in a backpack or on clothes.

Nozzle 0.4, layer 0.08. printing speed 40-60 mm / s, filling 35%. Consider the rest yourself, if you understand something ;-)

[Machete]

Soon, pilots will be printed on a tri-D bioprinter. Not enough.

[CAT BAIYUN]

In general, 3D printers are very different. If at the household level - then they are suitable only for prototyping and simple crafts. At present, it is possible to print both with metal (after sintering) and in a layer of liquid material, and the house can also be printed. There is nothing wrong with that, and these paths need to be investigated ... But at the moment, of course, the little little thing is kind of ridiculous .. But this FU-35 backlight may not fly without it. I am sure that our birds do not have a problem with the “part of the fighter’s landing gear bumper”, especially of such sizes.

[Hole puncher]

Is the negative due to the mention of F35, or do respondents do not believe in the prospect of 3D printing?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Puncher

respondents do not believe in the prospect of 3D printing?

Its prospects are limited, alas, by the printing of "chassis bumpers" and other garbage scoops.
I beg you, print me at least one turbine blade
So the F-35 with the “printed” part is like Tesla from the Mask

[voyaka uh]

NASA makes using 3-D printing nozzles of rocket engines. The quality is higher than with traditional methods.
There is no problem printing and turbine blades. Prepare the alloy material of the scapula in the form of a powder, and that's all. With a laser, a blade is “dripped” with an accuracy of microns. Moreover, I’m sure that this is exactly what they will manufacture: the more complex the shape of the part and the more expensive the part itself, the more profitable the three-dimensional printer.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is no problem printing and turbine blades. Prepare the alloy material of the blade in the form of a powder ...

... and print single crystal... or a metal composite, at worst, like an old man ...
Warrior, do not disgrace ... all this "seal" is, in essence, a good old powder metallurgy. And she is far from being able to

[voyaka uh]

It looks like powder metallurgy as the starting material. But the similarity ends there. There is drip laser fusion. There are other methods.
This direction is completely revolutionary and is developing rapidly. Fumble in the English press.
Firms that manufacture all kinds of wound 3D printers, materials for them, software, grow like mushrooms after rain. Printers in micromechanics, jewelry, dentists and prosthetists, car parts. Everywhere.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

Similar to...

... and Lake Baikal looks like a cucumber.
It is not able to print a composite, some Ti-Nb, for example, a 3D printer (for example, for now).
It is impossible to print a single crystal physically.
Thus, printing a turbine blade (namely, this was my original introductory one) on 3D is impossible. Q.E.D.
I repeat, the warrior does not need to prove that black is white, and vice versa. It's not gonna go

[voyaka uh]

I will not insist on a turbine blade. Only because of the many blades of various complex shapes (I somehow saw the f-16 engine disassembled for overhaul, that’s what I remembered) it occurred to me to use a printer.

[Spec]

http://gereports.ru/post/117090360915/izgotovleni
e-detailj-na-3d-printer
Monocrystals are not mentioned there, but for three years now turbine blades have been printing both at GE and Siemens. I’m not trying to prove anything, I just gave information.

[voyaka uh]

"but turbine blades have been printing for three years now at both GE and Siemens." ////

Well, that cleared up. My guess turned out to be true. Thanks for the info.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: voyaka uh

Moreover, I’m sure that this is exactly what they will manufacture: the more complex the shape of the part and the more expensive the part itself, the more profitable the three-dimensional printer.

Warrior, for the mass production of parts no printers can be stocked. In addition, it is also necessary to make powder. The printer is needed for the release of piece products. IMHO.

[voyaka uh]

So I wrote: for complex, expensive parts. Or in places where transportation is complicated. At space stations, remote military bases. Simple mass parts will be produced as usual.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: voyaka uh

So I wrote: for complex, expensive parts. Or in places where transportation is complicated. At space stations, remote military bases.

Well, yes, yes, I agree. Dentists are already printing teeth.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Puncher

or do respondents not believe in the prospect of 3D printing?

We believe. But for now, this crude technology, and here it is trying to use it on the latest fighters. It seems that here is just an advertisement for printers. They are already trying to print pistols, but still they have to handle the trunks mechanically, and they fall apart after several shots. And then a fighter. Were they smarter than they could have come up with? In general, it seems that someone is lobbying for these printers.

[voyaka uh]

"anyway, the trunks have to be processed mechanically, and they fall apart after several shots" ///

Trunks just do not need to be processed, but the details of the shutters have to be polished.
And withstand several hundred shots.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mordvin 3

and here they are trying to use it on the latest fighters.

If the fighter is the newest, this does not mean that it does not have any kind of Coca-Cola stand that can be printed.

[voyaka uh]

It’s profitable to print complex details of the most incredible
forms where many types of conventional processing are needed: drilling, milling, grooves, etc. All this replaces the seal. Only grinding remains.

[voyaka uh]

Part of the chassis is printed. Chassis retract inward in flight.
How can stealth be affected?

[Piramidon]

Quote: voyaka uh

How can stealth be affected?

Who knows, these Yankees. Maybe they have this bumper sticking out.
This is the first time I've heard that there is some kind of bumper on the landing gear. Maybe it means the chassis compartment leaf? Tady yes, she, when cleaning the chassis, remains outside.

[yaros]

Funny on the Defense website, this article appeared 3 hours ago, (at least it says so), here the first comment 20h14min also 3 hours passed ..... There are not a single comment here

[voyaka uh]

This is a very interesting technical topic. A completely fantastic new direction in the design of parts.

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

refined

I liked it more

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Apparently two words were compiled: atrophy (loss) and refining (allocation of ultrapure matter).

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

Apparently two words were compiled ...

and another third is paraffin. Well, just asking ...

[yaros]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is no problem printing and turbine blades.

Sometimes it's better to chew than write, I already noted that in Israel it is bad with education, think with your head? Turbine blades are a very complex composite product .. you print on the printer and the nozzles are a simple piece of iron ....

[voyaka uh]

After printing, nothing prevents processing the part further, spraying any coatings onto the product, and pressing with other parts. You are simply conservative, meet the new with hostility.

[midivan]

Quote: yaros

Sometimes it's better to chew than write, I already noted what is bad in Israel with educationthink with your head?

Yeah! That's what I look at, on TV almost every day we take off for treatment for children in Israel, apparently there they put them near the wall and they heal, and our great thinkers cripple them with a quartz lamp, that's such a small example.

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

Part of the chassis is printed. Chassis retract inward in flight.
How can stealth be affected?

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And in general, a part such as a shield was printed, as I understand it. With the same success, IT could be cut out of plywood with a jigsaw.

[voyaka uh]

This is a fighter after all. There must be high accuracy. But the idea is clear: it’s useful to keep printers at military bases in order to save time. "Workshops" will be organized directly on large UDC, ship-docks, aircraft carriers.

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is a fighter after all. There must be high accuracy. But the idea is clear: it’s useful to keep printers at military bases in order to save time. "Workshops" will be organized directly on large UDC, ship-docks, aircraft carriers.

This is in order to print a bolt, it is necessary to cram all the bases with excess equipment, printers?

[voyaka uh]

And if you think?
If without this bolt the fighter is idle and the combat missions break down, then of course stuff it.

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

And if you think?
If without this bolt the fighter is idle and the combat missions break down, then of course stuff it.

And if you think about Aleksey, then having a warehouse with finished parts is better and more practical, took it from the warehouse and changed it .....
But you think if the machine (printer) began to make a marriage, it broke, how long it will take to fix the machine, breakdowns are different. Meanwhile, the factory has more than one such machine and the failure of one of the machine will not greatly affect production. And also the plant also has a warehouse of finished products ....

[Vard]

About a year ago I wrote a book ... Like spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater ... One of the ideas is that the aliens use 3D printing for the manufacture of spaceships, and the earthlings pirate began to do everything using traditional technologies ... I had to delve into the question ... laid out the beginning on Samizdat ... but then they offered to sell the plot ... this is so to illustrate ...

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

all this “printing” is the good old powder metallurgy. And she is far from being able to

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Knives are good, however.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Golovan Jack

all this “printing” is the good old powder metallurgy. And she is far from being able to

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Knives are good, however.

Monocrystals are in fashion today. And they can only be grown.
And I saw composite (metal-metal) blades as far back as 86th at the KBKhA in Voronezh ...
"Powders" in the shoulder blades have nothing to do. This is not your knives ... and not welding electrodes

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Altona

Knives are good, however.

You also print a piece of wood on the handle? Here, hawthorn, for example.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Here, hawthorn, for example

Hawthorn is good in tincture (s). And the handle is better, for example, ebony.

Quote: Anecdote

...
“Do you know ebony?”
- Nat ...
“Well then, go ... to his mother!”

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Hawthorn is good in tincture (s). A handle is better, for example, ebony

Why are you criticizing my crafts? I have never done anything from Eben. I prefer that under the nose grows. Pure Russian trees, from fruit and berry. Well, and take care. And all these overseas Ebens are not needed to me for nothing. I'm not African, after all.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Why are you criticizing my crafts?

I do not criticize, I'm purely funny

Quote: Mordvin 3

Of Eben never did. I prefer that under the nose grows

Vladimir, you just said that under your nose is growing ... hawthorn

Quote: Mordvin 3

Well, and take care

Yes, the birch bark grip is a vesh. Did, know

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Yes, the birch bark grip is a vesh. Did, know

Although it is dreary to collect it in the hilt, but to cook, but it is worth it. And in that photo, that Above is the type of handle that was popular in the twenties. Bitch called. Almost an exact copy of the Finnish Yashka-Zhigan from the film "A Trip to Life". There is also sea buckthorn. A beautiful tree, but little use, because of the thorns. Well, in short, I am a fan of Russian fruit and berry wood, as they are best suited to our climate. And in beauty they are not inferior to overseas.

[Spec]

It is possible and a tree ;-)
More precisely, wood dust. The output is something like MDF, only stronger. Not as beautiful as hawthorn, but quite functional.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Spez

The output is something like mdf

Cold And this will not be considered manual work. When you put your soul into a product, the attitude to a thing is completely different. It’s hard to write about this clearly, you have to feel it. Try picking birch bark in the forest yourself (sensations from it) ), or to cut a pear. And you get the perfect thing, but ... cold. Like factory stamping.

[Spec]

There is no need to explain, I indulge in this myself;) My previous comment is only necessary for perceiving information.

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

and another third is paraffin. Well, just asking ...

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otrofinishthere were many options: "finance", "dates", "finish" ...

[Altona]

Quote: Mordvin 3

They are already trying to print pistols, but still they have to handle the trunks mechanically, and they fall apart after several shots.

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And more is not necessary. The point is, to create an impersonal weapon for murder, without numbers and a factory background.

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Monocrystals are in fashion today. And they can only be grown.
And I saw composite (metal-metal) blades as far back as 86th at the KBKhA in Voronezh ...
"Powders" in the shoulder blades have nothing to do. This is not your knives ... and not welding electrodes

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I did not say anything about the blades, I have no direct relation to the electrodes, I am a mechanical engineer, I did not finish MISIS like you. Now usually boil, mind you, with cored wire, they also paint with powder paint. And welding, by the way, holds well, no worse than a monolith of a brewed section. And in general, the point is that the resulting part does not have large internal stresses, and how this is achieved is the second thing.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

Now usually boil, mind you, cored wire

That's why I said about

Quote: Golovan Jack

welding electrodes

Quote: Altona

I am a mechanical engineer, MISIS I did not finish like you

Woo ... warmer. And I'm a physicist in the diploma, with a bias in metallurgy. And I remember well the basic things, as well as what I myself was doing, until I changed my specialty. So what about

Quote: Altona

... the point is that the resulting part does not have large internal stresses ...

... I’ll say for sure - far from just “not” (s).
Do not talk about something you don’t understand, it’s not worth it

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Do not talk about something you don’t understand, it’s not worth it

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I’m talking about what I understand, because everything I do finds good commercial evidence. But you are probably only usually proud of regalia, deal with your networks better.
PS If you mean vibrations and other things, then do not go deeper there. If about thermal matters, then for this they are boiled with wire so as not to create excess heat, although in some cases it is more reliable to cook with an electrode.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

do your networking better

Also I found a spider ... for the networks we have system administrators ...
I have a slightly different, ahem, scope

Quote: Altona

I say that I understand

Not always. This:

Quote: Altona

And in general, the point is that the resulting part does not have large internal stresses

in relation to the same scapula, there is simply enchanting nonsense.

Quote: Altona

everything I do finds good commercial evidence

I remember you somehow complained about just the opposite ... well oh well, I have to go to sleep. Adios

[Altona]

Quote: Mordvin 3

You also print a piece of wood on the handle?

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And then a piece of wood on the handle? It's about getting a blade, how to get it. And the handle on a 3D printer to print generally trifling matter. It will be polymer.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Altona

It will be polymer.

Cold. Better than a living tree, they haven’t come up with anything yet. IMHO, of course.

Quote: voyaka uh

You are simply conservative, meet the new with hostility.

Here it is one hundred percent true. It is necessary to calculate the cost of parts and materials, and a bunch of different other factors. If it turns out that the part is cheaper to make using a file, and that same mother, then I will choose a file because

[Altona]

Quote: Golovan Jack

in relation to the same scapula, there is simply enchanting nonsense.

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And then the shoulder blade? This is your enchanting nonsense. I didn’t talk about shoulder blades at all. It’s you who is our specialist in everything that you don’t get. Sleep, and then go to the train to Moscow just a little light. I then get to work 500 meters. Of course, I studied torque converters and fluid couplings, but there the impeller was received in a completely traditional way. Although you do not need this, your thinking is discrete.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

I didn’t talk about shoulder blades at all

In the name of the Tarabar King !!! About scapula originally I said, actually. Remind me? And you, as usual, got into "erudition to show."
Well, and showed. As usual

Quote: Altona

You are our specialist in everything

Get away from the mirror, break it, get hurt.

Quote: Altona

your thinking is discrete

But on the other hand, "by area" ... welder

[kit88]

After reading this news, I have 2 thoughts.
1. How they all started.

... Sergeant Adrian Willis, instead of waiting for weeks for the entire F-35B assembly to replace ...

Poor things. For weeks waiting for the right spare part. Such software of probable partners I like.
2. Something they get confused in the testimony.

... the replacement of which involved the replacement of the entire unit ...

I didn’t understand, then this bastard broke, and it changes along with the entire assembly. And if you print it on 3d, then you can not change the node? And if not printed, but the original one should be given to this sergeant, then what? Can't put in place?

[tTshka]

It is only necessary to buy a printer for ahuliard, and then the unit for lyam-2 will fall in price))) Apparently this is one of a number of stories told to the Indians that they refused from su-57)))

[YELLOWSTONE]

Chinese printer will not sell

[Vard]

I will say one thing ... What is the difference between classical technology and 3D printing ... You take a workpiece, process it, then heat treatment almost always follows ... But with 3D printing this is essentially the same as pressing by pressing .. For example, metal fittings (personal experience) pressed serve on the strength of a year ... made by classical technology ... ten years ...

[Spec]

All wrong, wrong, and wrong. Or maybe I didn’t understand. Explain how pressing differs from classical technology and how printing differs from pressing? After answering these questions, you yourself will understand in which cases mechanical processing is used, in which press, in which extrusion is under pressure, and in which conventional atmospheric extrusion is used, as in printers. I’ve already written today, I repeat - no need to fry potatoes with a soldering iron.

[Vard]

In essence, you yourself answered your own question ... The mechanical characteristics are different ... and while 3D is nothing to talk about ...

[Spec]

Success in sharpening stone axes with copper files