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No missiles they have! The Pentagon has declared that Russia has no American missiles

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The Pentagon does not believe the statements of the Russian military regarding the American missiles used to strike Syria, in particular, that two of them were taken to Moscow for study. This was announced on Wednesday by the official representative of the US Department of Defense Eric Pachon to the American television channel CNBC.


No missiles they have! The Pentagon has declared that Russia has no American missiles


According to Pachon, "this is another example of the Russian campaign for disinformation in order to divert attention from their moral involvement in the atrocities of the regime [of Syrian President Bashar] Al-Assad and the mass death of civilians in western Syria." The channel also quotes the representative of the Pentagon that "statements about the choice of our [American] goals are absurd."

Concerning Tomahawk, we did not see any other evidence than the statements made by the Russian state-owned media that their statements were true. This is most likely another propaganda smoke screen to divert real problems from the murders of innocent civilians by a bloody regime that is supported by Russia.
- declared Pakhon

In addition, an expert from the Royal Joint Institute for Defense Studies, Justin Bronk, generally doubted that Tomahawks and other Western missiles shown in Moscow were shot down by Syrian air defense.

I do not know whether Russia or Syria intercepted the Tomahawk missiles. Although I am sure that they have quite a few fragments for studying [American] weaponsthat struck those goals that were released
- He said, adding that Russia's statement on the interception of "Tomahawks", most likely, was "posturing, to confuse the United States."

We remind you that earlier the General Staff of the Russian Federation confirmed receipt of the surviving Tomahawk and high-precision missile rockets from Syria to study in Moscow. Also, the Russian military demonstrated the wreckage of coalition missiles shot down by Syria’s air defenses.
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  1. 73bor
    73bor April 25 2018 20: 12
    +45
    Right now, everyone from the State Department will begin to refuse sight, some kind of infection! crying
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter April 25 2018 20: 18
      +45
      And when the details of the rocket are thrust under the nose of the mattresses, they will scream that this is not theirs, etc. , etc. and so forth In general, the classic "deaf abandoned", nothing new, boring, girls ... No.
      1. User
        User April 25 2018 20: 20
        +18
        The most graphic evidence would be the return of the missiles to their masters under their own power, although then a number of other questions will arise.
        1. Proxima
          Proxima April 25 2018 20: 31
          +21
          Quote: User
          The most obvious evidence would be the return of missiles to the owners on their own, the truth then a number of other questions will arise.

          This is unfair, someone was already the United States. You need to give others to travel. winked
          1. cniza
            cniza April 25 2018 21: 09
            +9
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            And when the details of the rocket are thrust under the nose of the mattresses, they will scream that this is not theirs, etc. , etc. and so forth In general, the classic "deaf abandoned", nothing new, boring, girls ... No.


            And why should we jerk, well, no, okay, no. let them fuss.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter April 25 2018 21: 12
              +7
              I agree, let them scream no. Only if they really weren't there - the mattresses would be silent like a sterlet fish. wink
            2. Inok10
              Inok10 April 25 2018 22: 31
              +5
              Quote: cniza
              And why should we jerk, well, no, okay, no. let them fuss.

              ... My regards ! ... long time no see ... and screaming ... like scalded ... wink
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              I agree, let them scream no. Only if they really weren't there - the mattresses would be silent like a sterlet fish.

              ... Hello Pash! ... they can’t be silent ... they now have this main weapon - chatter ... in words they all won a long time ago ... only the clumsy woman left the S-125 Pechora-2M, Buk-2ME ... well, the rest of the Soviet trifle ... Byad from the "river" ... in Syria came out, Woe ... laughing
          2. starpom
            starpom April 25 2018 22: 31
            +24
            Quote: Proxima
            It's unfair

        2. helmi8
          helmi8 April 25 2018 20: 33
          +5
          Quote: User
          returning missiles to their masters on their own

          It’s unlikely to be under way, but you can fasten your luggage ... laughing Courier delivery is.
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 25 2018 21: 14
          +3
          Quote: User
          the return of the missiles to the masters under their own power, though then a number of other questions will arise.

          Who? wassat laughing
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 25 2018 20: 22
        +18
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        bored, girls ...

        Yes, there are boys, too ... yes
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 25 2018 21: 00
          +7
          and to be honest, to be honest, where are the boys, where are the girls .... Kolya! hi drinks
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 25 2018 21: 05
            +2
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and to be honest, to be honest, where are the boys, where are the girls .... Kolya! hi drinks

            Hi Roma! hi drinks
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 25 2018 21: 01
          +5
          Kolya, let the girls there evaluate the girls, well, or the woodcutters. wassat
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 25 2018 21: 06
            +6
            Yes, they are visually visible ... and you should not try, just translate Viagra ... laughing Their girls have long disowned them .. they have their own lesbian shobla, just what?
      3. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 25 2018 20: 23
        +11
        Hello Pasha hi It's a shame to them, like a cat naughty, they poke their nose all over this trinity.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 25 2018 20: 55
          +4
          Vitaly, good evening! hi
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          It's a shame to them, like a cat naughty, they poke their nose all over this trinity.

          Everyone, except the mattresses, is not used to pecking their own shit (with such a master). wink
      4. Herculesic
        Herculesic April 25 2018 20: 27
        +9
        Yeah, got lol drinks ! Healthy, Pasha! hi The United States is a form of the virus against which there is only one antidote - Yellowstone! sad
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 25 2018 20: 54
          +6
          Hi Vitalyevich! hi drinks
          Quote: Herkulesich
          The United States is a form of the virus against which there is only one antidote - Yellowstone!

          Golden words, only the consequences would be localized ... repeat
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik April 25 2018 21: 10
          +9
          Quote: Herkulesich
          Yeah, got lol drinks ! Healthy, Pasha! hi The United States is a form of the virus against which there is only one antidote - Yellowstone! sad

          And for example, after all the lies and idle talk on our TV, to be honest, I stopped believing all the media, both ours and theirs, are already provoking annoyance, and the Moscow Region there and there are lying untalentedly. Some have shot down 70%, others 100% hit the target, and you can’t say that they keep their population for fools, because they believe on both sides.
          1. PN
            PN April 25 2018 22: 05
            +1
            The truth is somewhere nearby (c)
          2. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint April 26 2018 05: 34
            +2
            if you are about yesterday’s briefing and about 46 shot down then this is not a lie but a data correction. The named quantity is what can be proved. The first data is always initially different. It is impossible to collect the wreckage, the launches could be paired for one purpose. Then they collect the information, conduct a check and voice it. Saying that they are lying is at least illiterate, since they could insist on the primary data, but they gave just less information.
      5. Tusv
        Tusv April 25 2018 20: 54
        +7
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        And when the details of the rocket are thrust under the nose of the mattresses, they will scream that this is not theirs, etc. , etc. and so forth In general, the classic "deaf abandoned", nothing new, boring, girls ...

        Pasha. We would be sad. F-35 birds drop, F-22 makes a hard landing in Arizona. There is NATO superiority in science - teleportation. Us before that as to Pluto and back drinks
        Well, there are no NATO missiles in Moscow. Fig something with him. What difference does it make where our nerds study them.
        Task!. 105 launched, 46 shot down 22 flew. Question! How many rockets landed in the suburbs drinks
        You know the answer - let me write off lol
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 25 2018 21: 00
          +5
          Volodya hi
          Quote: Tusv
          Task!. 105 launched, 46 shot down 22 flew. Question! How many rockets landed in the suburbs drinks
          You know the answer - let me write off lol

          Well, the mattresses said that Russia does not have their missiles! Or do you not trust the "partners"? wink lol
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 25 2018 21: 07
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Or do you not trust the "partners"?

            What is the speech about? Of course I trust, and even laid straws. Air defense does not drop anyone - FSE fall in Arizona due to metal fatigue laughing
            You see, when they crossed the Air Force + Air Defense + RTV and to the heap of electronic warfare. We have become such magicians that I scratch turnips. like that with a screwdriver fool A rzhunimagu commercials bully
        2. sabakina
          sabakina April 25 2018 21: 19
          +4
          Vladimir, what for statistics fake? 71 shot down! And that’s it! Here they come to the site, and then they disappear!
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 25 2018 21: 28
            +4
            Quote: sabakina
            Vladimir, what for statistics fake? 71 shot down! And that’s it! Here they come to the site, and then they disappear!

            Glory. Well, turn on Our Rush 24 and make sure. There about these tsyfiry tryndyat. What I bought for hi But! I believe in the top ten missiles in the suburbs drinks
            We can. Taught
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE April 26 2018 03: 50
              +1
              there they write "46 shot down near Damascus," Syria is large
              are being fought as with a Su-25 which is at the first briefing on MH17, it is not at the second.
      6. sabakina
        sabakina April 25 2018 20: 56
        +3
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        And when the details of the rocket are thrust under the nose of the mattresses, they will scream that this is not theirs, etc. , etc. and so forth In general, the classic "deaf abandoned", nothing new, boring, girls ... No.

        Not Pash, they won’t scream. I still wanted to write in the afternoon (there was no time, work), they will say that these are fragments of exploding rockets, and therefore, they need to show (in the movie of course) those rockets that were delivered to Moscow with numbers and a general plan. Generally Pash, something like this ...

        A similar episode is still in the series about James Bond, but look in the bastard.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 25 2018 21: 06
          +6
          I understand what you mean. Otmazyvatsya will be fully. Like, I'm not me and not my cow.
      7. Skif83
        Skif83 April 25 2018 21: 15
        +3
        Level dolbo ... cretinism of the Anglo-Saxons rolls over!
        And ours, as a shkolota, are trying, in all seriousness, to prove something !?
        It's like with a gopota, you tell them about Chekhov, and they: - Let me light it!
        And the answer here is one - a good blow to the jaw!
        Until we answer at least somewhere, they will hammer their cretinism.
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn April 25 2018 20: 23
      +15
      We’ll have to arrange another briefing ... Where a smart, American rocket will say in pure English ... "They are scary people .. I am so smart that I knew there was no chance. But they made me." laughing
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 25 2018 20: 32
      +4
      Well, what was required to prove, it is worth poking them in the face with a guano, then miserable babble begins: -
      This, most likely, is another propaganda smoke screen to distract from the real problems - the murders of innocent civilians by the bloody regime that enjoys the support of Russia

      I am not me and the horse is not mine, and in general fragments of the wrong system. laughing Bored girls, fluidly handled so wrap around silently. laughing
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 25 2018 21: 03
        +2
        Vovka, pryuvet! So they do not refuse that their rockets! They simply say that they are not shot down, but bursting at the place of arrival! Honestly, these photos did not impress me either. As an amateur photographer, I say, the photo club "House of Pioneers."
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain April 25 2018 21: 09
          +6
          Quote: sabakina
          They simply say that they are not shot down, but bursting at the place of arrival!

          Glory to Zdrav Be hi Yes, let them grind whatever they want, they are not theirs, exploded, not exploded, they will silently just take it to the last screw. They will examine them under a microscope and draw conclusions, and if they think that this cannot be and let them think, those who are supposed to know those and that they know, and let the rest even turn around on the forums, the dogs bark, the caravan continues to go. hi
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov April 25 2018 21: 56
      +4
      Well, yes, when the whole Boink-757 crashed into the Pentagon, there was practically nothing left of it. At least they said so. And from the rocket with the exploding semitone warhead left "a lot of fragments to study."
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 26 2018 03: 58
        +1
        showed how crashed? there about the same and crashed instead of him
        different airliners fly into the basements
        these are not the fact that the warhead exploded, only fuel could
  2. LMN
    LMN April 25 2018 20: 13
    +9
    As expected laughing
    Fragments are not arranged as an argument smile
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 25 2018 20: 51
      +1
      You might think that in Russia they don’t know something about Tomahawk. Passed stage, back in the 80s. And about the wreckage, it’s always interesting.
      1. NG inform
        NG inform April 25 2018 21: 42
        +4
        Tomahawk is not a specific brand of rocket, but a class of weapons. It is constantly updated.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit April 25 2018 22: 15
          +3
          It is constantly updated.
          Even what was produced 30 years ago?
          Tomahawk is not a specific brand of rocket, but a class of weapons
          By the way, the Tomahawk, this is a particular brand of missile, like the X-55.
          1. NG inform
            NG inform April 25 2018 22: 59
            0
            What happened 30 years ago has long flown away.
            And no, it's more like an X- than an X-55. They have changed everything in 30 years. They became smarter, the amount of explosives varies, the materials of the case became simpler and cheaper, the price decreased by 10 times.
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit April 26 2018 05: 35
              +1
              Quote: NG inform
              the price decreased by 10 times

              Do not make me laugh. laughing American missiles have become better and cheaper. This is probably a new joke. Maybe 10 times more expensive, then I believe. Just due to new materials and technologies.
            2. PSih2097
              PSih2097 April 26 2018 10: 05
              0
              Quote: NG inform
              the price decreased by 10 times.

              yes you what ...
              1997 the price tag of $ 1,46 million
              2011 the price tag of $ 1,41 million
              2017 the price tag of $ 1,4 million
              So the price tag is practically unchanged.
              Although if you recall the price of the dollar in the 90s and now, plus the fact that the last batch of “axes” was transferred to the US Ministry of Defense in 2014 at a price of 1,45 Lyam, the price tag of course changed but not 10 times, 1,2-1,5 somewhere.
              And here is JASSM - it’s almost 1,5 times cheaper than the “ax” 0,8 lyam, but in range compared to it it is no - 350km.
  3. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala April 25 2018 20: 17
    +9
    How could a hunt “blow their brain” by presenting missiles with decrypted (if possible) flight routes. The Moscow Region knows better than me what to do with them (KR), but the desire is huge ...
    1. 73bor
      73bor April 25 2018 20: 20
      +2
      You can just product numbers, also come down!
      1. tol100v
        tol100v April 25 2018 20: 34
        +3
        Quote: 73bor
        You can just product numbers, also come down!

        So they will declare that everything is made on Malaya Arnautskaya! Even though this is Odessa!
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 25 2018 21: 01
          +3
          nameplates with engines, as in the Patriotic!
      2. sabakina
        sabakina April 25 2018 21: 04
        +1
        Quote: 73bor
        You can just product numbers, also come down!

        So what? The wreckage. they are debris.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 25 2018 20: 24
      +4
      They have brains on their side, and you also want to blow them up! belay
  4. Russia
    Russia April 25 2018 20: 19
    +10
    Like a sickle in one place, punishes them from this exhibition, are powerless in their malice, which is written with a pen not to cut down with an "ax".
  5. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 25 2018 20: 19
    +4
    Do missiles have identification numbers? if there is, discard them to see.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 25 2018 20: 22
      +4
      Do missiles have identification numbers? if there is, discard them to see.

      Well, duck numbers, we will also draw by downloading them earlier with the help of hackers. There is no evidence against such impudent blind hatred. They really screwed up their eyes tightly and insist on their own - the same thing.
      The first page as a memo in the thick Heather folder:
      "This could not be, because it could not be"
      "Can't say it."
      "We do not disclose this information but it is correct."

      etc.
      1. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa April 25 2018 20: 23
        +10
        I dream that they specifically "squinted"

        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN April 25 2018 20: 53
          +5
          Well, why the hell for a cafe? Although ... It’s just that they won’t pour us coffee ...
          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto April 25 2018 20: 55
            +5
            Well, why the hell for a cafe?

            If you get into this cafe, then within a radius of five kilometers there will be no one to drink coffee. And all the other cafes will close. Instantly.....
    2. prapor75m
      prapor75m April 25 2018 20: 53
      +2
      today at 60 min in Russia 2 showed tomahawks fresh -2016 wink
    3. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 25 2018 20: 59
      +1
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      Do missiles have identification numbers? If there is, discard them to see.

      Return to the ground. Serial numbers are encrypted, and they will not say anything to anyone, except for those specialists who understand this. I might as well provide you with a set of numbers and letters, and blame you for all the atrocities. so no argument. But the fact that the wreckage remained, it pleases, they will tell a lot to specialists.
      1. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa April 25 2018 21: 09
        0
        But how do you determine the country of manufacture?
    4. sabakina
      sabakina April 25 2018 21: 10
      +1
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      Do missiles have identification numbers? if there is, discard them to see.

      Vladimir, and what? I will show you the VIN photo of my car and say that the car is a little dented, and you say that it cannot be restored. The Americans themselves, in their films, in particular, "True Lies" !, and some kind of James Bond series suggest how we should act. My video is above.
  6. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 25 2018 20: 20
    +1
    Warheads are certainly not an argument.
    Need to take control and send the missiles home.
    Let the house complain about a non-affectionate welcome.
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 25 2018 20: 21
    +8
    And he answered
    To our answer
    Will find even more curly! wink
    and their deception
    and not a hoax ...
    as well as one title !!! wink
  8. Bakht
    Bakht April 25 2018 20: 23
    +7
    Bearded joke
    A man comes into the clinic and asks the reception
    - I would have an ear-eye doctor
    - There is no such doctor. There is an otolaryngologist and an optometrist. To whom to you?
    - No. I need exactly the ear-eye. I have a problem. What I hear with my ears on the radio I don’t see with my eyes in the store!
    1. major147
      major147 April 25 2018 20: 30
      +15
      There’s a funnier joke from life!
      Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke out about the possibility of Russia returning to the club of the leading industrialized countries G7. According to the head of the Canadian government, this is possible only with a change in the presidency.
      Trudeau proposed his predecessor, Boris Yeltsin, who passed away in 2007, as an alternative to Vladimir Putin.
      “Today Russia has no place in our elite club. I can’t imagine myself shaking hands with a dictator who poisons the fighting substances of his and foreign citizens. With a more European leader, we can invite Russia to a common photo with our leaders. I remember, before, the Russians were led by the wonderful President Yeltsin. Why not get it back? ” - summed up the head of the government of Canada. good
      1. Bakht
        Bakht April 25 2018 20: 33
        +2
        Really funny....
        I'm not talking about arrogance. But ... funny. And these people talk about "interference with the election"
        -----
        Little Johnny peeps into the keyhole of the parents bedroom
        - And these people forbid me to pick a finger in my nose !!!!!
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn April 25 2018 20: 38
        +5
        Quote: major147
        I remember that earlier the wonderful President Yeltsin led the Russians. Why not get it back? ” - summed up the head of the government of Canada.

        Does he have an option to revive the dead? belay
        Then, I, for Stalin .. soldier
        But in general, let them return (Yeltsin) to himself, he, they will arrange such dances with binge .. Mom do not grieve ... laughing
      3. sabakina
        sabakina April 25 2018 21: 13
        +5
        major147, for that matter, I am ready to give my drop of blood to revitalize I.V. Salina.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn April 25 2018 21: 37
          +5
          A drop .... I'm ready, 300 grams, for the sake of such a thing ...
          Vyacheslav hi
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii April 25 2018 20: 33
      +4
      Exactly with a beard, since the time of Brezhnev smile
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 25 2018 20: 23
    +2
    It is a futile lesson to prove to those who are shameless that he is in his crap, and he stinks unpleasantly from him! Moreover, the United States itself stinks, constantly, and lies to the whole world! Here are two factors by which to distinguish the United States from the normal countries of the world, such as Russia, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and several others!
    1. Deck
      Deck April 25 2018 20: 53
      +1
      normal countries of the world, such as Russia, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and several others!


      Great set!
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 25 2018 21: 34
        +1
        Quote: Deck
        Great set!

        Not that word. laughing good One sadness: Assad and Maduro do not have nuclear weapons. wassat
  10. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 25 2018 20: 24
    +6
    "Regarding Tomahawk, we have not seen any other evidence than the statements made by the Russian state media that their allegations are true."
    Somehow this story with the Skripals reminds. The classic case of double standards.
  11. tralmaster.
    tralmaster. April 25 2018 20: 25
    0
    We need one destroyer of theirs to the bottom to let them believe that we have something to answer. just understand.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 25 2018 20: 34
      +1
      Oh, what are you? No one will see him at the bottom for sure. Do not prove!
  12. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov April 25 2018 20: 25
    +8
    Clear business, showed fragments of the fallen missiles and give out for the whole - intercepted. It would be ridiculous even for a child, because they beat themselves with their heels in the chest, that they brought two all-purpose racquets to Moscow, but it turned out to be just pieces of iron - they should pass them to the homeless ...
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 25 2018 20: 37
      +6
      Write to the local FSB, they will even let you play with these rockets - it’s like 20 years, be in places not so remote with rockets to play, Mr. Skeptic!
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov April 25 2018 20: 43
        +5
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Write to the local FSB, they will even let you play with these rockets - it’s like 20 years, be in places not so remote with rockets to play, Mr. Skeptic!

        I'm sorry, you definitely already have 16? Your comment is more like an answer that has gone wrong, a child of about nine.
        Just in case, I sent a complaint to the flood to the moderators.
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic April 25 2018 20: 49
          +10
          And your comment is essentially a cry, a cry of a person to whom they personally did not bring the same rocket, so that you personally could kiss it! Privacy mode, do you know this concept? In general, it was not necessary to closely release information on the presence of missiles captured in Syria! This is gigantic and unforgivable stupidity! Got a "product" - silently study it!
          1. Eduard petrov
            Eduard petrov April 25 2018 20: 59
            +3
            In general, it was not necessary to closely release information on the presence of missiles captured in Syria! This is gigantic and unforgivable stupidity!

            That is, in your opinion, the Head of the operational management of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Sergei Rudskoy, is stupid ?? After all, it was he who told reporters that two missiles were delivered to Moscow, which were fired by the coalition forces in Syria ... Are you definitely over 16 years old ?? Or do you just think weakly? Some people are better off chewing than talking ... on topics not for their age.
            1. Herculesic
              Herculesic April 25 2018 21: 11
              +4
              He made a mistake, or is it an element of a political game, anything is possible! But, I’m not talking about it myself, those who worked at sensitive facilities during the Soviet era agree with me, there was no need to talk about rockets! This is the case when they blabbed without thinking! A serious game is going on now, and to make specialists studying rockets nervous, because the rockets can be removed from them at least temporarily, for demonstration to the press and the public, is an impermissible luxury! By the way, about my age — I was exactly 50 years old — did you arrange an answer? Screen passports will not show their principle!
              1. Eduard petrov
                Eduard petrov April 25 2018 21: 24
                +2
                I’m not saying it myself; those agree with me ...

                Is it some kind of surrealism ... So you say (have something to say in your opinion) or are you looking for support among those "who used to work on sensitive sites during the USSR?" You would not need analytics, analysis, adult affairs, this is not yours. Show your passport from the principle, laugh ...)
          2. Hole puncher
            Hole puncher April 25 2018 22: 09
            +4
            Quote: Herkulesich
            Privacy mode, do you know this concept?

            Do you think you need to hide the contents of American missiles from the Americans?
            To the whole world to declare that we have two whole missiles, and then to secret their existence? Logic is clearly not living here.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack April 25 2018 22: 14
              +2
              Quote: Puncher
              Do you think you need to hide the contents of American missiles from the Americans?

              And who told you that it was precisely American missiles that were "detained"?
              Surnames, addresses, appearances ?! laughing
            2. Cossack 471
              Cossack 471 April 25 2018 22: 44
              0
              The logic is this; announced that we have 2 missiles. one of them is the Tomahawk. Which of the aircraft missiles we have not specified. let the "allies" scratch their turnips
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 25 2018 21: 10
      +2
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      Clear business, showed fragments of the fallen missiles and give out for the whole - intercepted. It would be ridiculous even for a child, because they beat themselves with their heels in the chest, that they brought two all-purpose racquets to Moscow, but it turned out to be just pieces of iron - they should pass them to the homeless ...

      An air defense expert, but what about the assertion of your idols (masters) that nothing fell and could not fall, everything exploded for purposes, into dust, in each 350-450 kg. TNT (equivalent), what large debris? Huh? wassat tongue laughing Thirty pieces in one place, that is 105 in three small-sized targets !!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh -, good
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        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn April 25 2018 21: 56
          +2
          Registered April 10, 2018 ...
          Magic date, some kind belay
          All in one day or you, one in 10 nicknames negative On command, registered ?? wink
      2. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher April 25 2018 22: 05
        +4
        Quote: neri73-r
        Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhah

        Tie it with a boyar, there is nothing to lie under the table, the person asked a specific question, where are the declared whole missiles, and you are under the table right away.
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  14. Tank hard
    Tank hard April 25 2018 20: 26
    +1
    We just live in parallel worlds.
  15. ALEKSEY
    ALEKSEY April 25 2018 20: 27
    +1
    Send this exposition in parts in the USA by mail. Part to the Pentagon, another to the White House, to third media representatives. They will eat each other out there. Trolling to do.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 25 2018 20: 43
      0
      In the 90s, when the Americans handed Russia a uranium deal, someone asked the Russian representative "how can weapons-grade plutonium be delivered to the States." He replied "Only in the form of a warhead"
      It would be nice. But a lot of people then died, which came to the States not in warheads.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 20: 56
        +1
        Quote: Bakht
        In the 90 years, when the Americans handed Russia a uranium deal,

        They didn’t palm off this; it was Yeltsin who asked them for permission to shoot the parliament. And the Americans at first refused him: "No Borya, this is undemocratic." Then they consulted and decided: "Give us half of the uranium, then shoot as much as you like." He was delighted: "Yes, take a friend Bill at least the whole!"
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 26 2018 07: 41
          0
          there is a theory - that by tapping them on our uranium deal - we killed in the bud CASH nuclear industry. Moreover, it’s quite reasonable - they really got their production
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 26 2018 08: 09
            +1
            Quote: your1970
            there is a theory - that by tapping them on our uranium deal - we killed in the bud CASH nuclear industry. Moreover, it’s quite reasonable - they really got their production

            Yes, it happens to many who are being spent for free. And thinks about today, not planning a perspective. Take at least the industry of the USSR. They were led to the best quality western goods, and almost everything that could be destroyed in 90. It all started with joint ventures, they did not have time to look around, as the west grabbed all the tidbits, or collapsed everything that they did not need. And the Americans also ran into Uranus. Received a freebie, but on their own pr-in a bolt scored. And to us in the 90-e nuclear waste from all over brought, they themselves did not want to mess with it. Although we could lose everything. I remember the NTV report from Korolev when a man with the “Honorary Atomic Energy” badge manually cut the threads on bolts for three hundred rubles a month. The correspondent was stunned by such a salary. Eyes hatched: "How much?" At that time I was getting five times more as a simple mechanic.
    2. japs
      japs April 25 2018 20: 44
      +2
      In my understanding of all our actions, I see one problem, namely - we always say what we will do. This is fundamentally wrong. You need to talk and immediately do what they said.
      Example: Conducted verification in the Duma. Found witnesses. Brought to the UN. In the morning they said there would be a briefing. After two or three hours, this briefing was held for all magazines and TV. Basta!
      They said that we would shoot down kosher over Libya when launching missiles.
      The guy said the guy did.
      Stop smearing snot and expressing concern.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 25 2018 21: 03
        +5
        Quote: japs
        The guy said the guy did.

        Jury hi patience. It’s not time to go on the attack, the “front” has not yet been aligned (inauguration of the president, the formation of the government, football, Syria, Ukraine ...), the “rear” has not yet been tightened (import substitution, “fifth column” of oligarchs at the resources, dollar .. .), you can get into the "boiler". But, I agree, you need to do a counterattack!
      2. Antokha
        Antokha April 25 2018 21: 28
        +1
        Probably over Lebanon, not over Libya.
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher April 25 2018 22: 02
          +2
          Quote: Anton
          Probably over Lebanon, not over Libya.

          Duc geography see.
  16. Awaz
    Awaz April 25 2018 20: 33
    +3
    The Americans know what flew away from them, and where and how much did not fly. All this easy hysteria is for the own population, that would not ask questions, well, and excuses for those who are not very sophisticated in the topic, like a magazine journal ..
    Our Defense Ministry is lying, but in general it always talks about real events. What American journalists and politicians and the military say is almost always lies and fabrications. Therefore, it’s better to believe the Russian Defense Ministry
  17. G A_2
    G A_2 April 25 2018 20: 47
    +1
    I don’t understand why our Defense Ministry has been preparing for a briefing for so long so as not to show these two almost whole missiles. That would be a knockout for the USA. I don’t understand what.
    1. Gene Concrete
      Gene Concrete April 25 2018 20: 50
      +3
      Those. option that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, as usual, lies / bluffs / shows tactical trick you don’t consider?
      1. G A_2
        G A_2 April 25 2018 23: 21
        +1
        I am considering. Last year’s strike on Shairat and 36 tomahawks that didn’t reach. Where are they? Aliens taken away? Now, after this obvious fable, I’m considering this option that you proposed
    2. SOF
      SOF April 25 2018 21: 33
      +6
      Quote: G A_2
      I don’t understand why our Defense Ministry has been preparing for a briefing for so long.

      ... and I completely understand the "why" - they elementarily allowed me to get stuck in a lie.
      Why all the trump cards to shine immediately ...?
      Now they’ll give us a little more faith, and then, having gutted the rockets, they will dump them on the round table of the Security Council, at the UN - that’s going to be fun ....
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher April 25 2018 22: 00
        +2
        Quote: SOF
        and then, gutting the rockets, they will dump them on the round table of the Security Council, at the UN - that’s going to be fun ....

        What is fun? Did the US deny striking Syria?
        1. SOF
          SOF April 26 2018 03: 54
          +1
          Quote: Puncher
          What is fun? Did the US deny striking Syria

          ... and the fun will be in the scene, as Nebenzya put it, from the immortal Examiner ....
          .... and then excuses will begin, similar to the one that you have already expressed - "we said that the blow was" ..... Yes it was, it was .... swing ... at the ruble, and the blow at half a penny .....
        2. your1970
          your1970 April 26 2018 07: 44
          0
          Quote: Puncher
          Quote: SOF
          and then, gutting the rockets, they will dump them on the round table of the Security Council, at the UN - that’s going to be fun ....

          What is fun? Did the US deny striking Syria?
          -USA claimed that ALL missiles hit targets. Even 1 rocket (whole) will clearly show that they lied all the time, even if after that they say that this accidentally failed and fell whole ...
  18. Gene Concrete
    Gene Concrete April 25 2018 20: 48
    +4
    Logically, apart from the patriotic CA of “military review”, no one even believes in interception, not to mention any kind of transportation.
    If this were true, the Russian media would be the first to bombard the Internet with downed KR ... the place of this Moscow region offers once again to take a word and demonstrates a modest pile of scrap metal in confirmation of the truth.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 25 2018 21: 05
      +4
      Oh, it came from poorly disguised contempt for the Russians.
      Let me guess what is your nationality?
      1. SOF
        SOF April 25 2018 21: 30
        +5
        Quote: Mestny
        Let me guess what nationality you are

        ... will you guess for a long time? ... There is written on the forehead ...
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 25 2018 21: 40
          +3
          Quote: SOF
          There is written on the forehead ...

          In the profile (where "about yourself") is even clearer. yes This client is not for long. "How many of them fell into this abyss ..."
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 22: 12
          +4
          Quote: SOF
          .. will you guess for a long time? ... There is written on the forehead ...

          Yes, his forehead is covered with a pan, you can’t see a fig. request
      2. Antokha
        Antokha April 25 2018 21: 42
        +3
        Yeah, and prolific what (what / what) - read the last hundred. How much do they pay today for Russophobic posts?
      3. Gene Concrete
        Gene Concrete April 25 2018 21: 49
        +3
        Nowhere and nobody despise on a national basis, but it’s not a completely clever sin not to teach a lesson.
        It is very convenient to write off your own wretchedness as a personal dislike.
        The situation reminds me of blacks who are not hired because of their professional inappropriateness and unwillingness to earn honest work, because by selling bags of magic substances they earn a lot more and blame racists for everything.
        And with feminists the same story ...
    2. tagil
      tagil April 25 2018 21: 34
      +4
      You need to run around the desert yourself and look for rocket fragments. Our Defense Ministry said that they shot down missiles, so they shot down (and showed debris), and now you prove that the missiles were not intercepted. And it’s somehow not interesting for us to believe EVERYTHING (by the way, who is it all surname) or not.
  19. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN April 25 2018 20: 51
    +2
    Well, yes ... there are definitely no such "smart" ones. And all this is a "Russian disguise"!
    Will you check? laughing
  20. razved
    razved April 25 2018 20: 53
    0
    Denial of the presence of the disease, at least among alcoholics, is the first sign of the actual presence of this disease ...
  21. Naval
    Naval April 25 2018 20: 58
    +2
    Just think, they didn’t see the missiles, their brothers cannot see the whole bridge, 19 kilometers long, and they sincerely believe that everything is filmed in the pavilions of the Mosfilm. fool
  22. Boomandroid
    Boomandroid April 25 2018 21: 02
    +2
    Quote: Gene Concrete
    Logically, apart from the patriotic CA of “military review”, no one even believes in interception, not to mention any kind of transportation.
    If this were true, the Russian media would be the first to bombard the Internet with downed KR ... the place of this Moscow region offers once again to take a word and demonstrates a modest pile of scrap metal in confirmation of the truth.

    Well, start with the video interception? there is! Debris? There is! And with the numbers. And let's see what they provided? 105 missiles .. For three purposes? Where is the proof? With the possibility of the United States, they would vehemently show, but they do not exist. If my memory doesn’t fail me, then when they had more than half of the missiles hit and did not reach, they denied this for a very long time.
    1. Gene Concrete
      Gene Concrete April 25 2018 21: 41
      +4
      So there is no video with interception, there is only a video where the missile launcher rose into the night sky with a candle, did not reach the target, and then self-destructed at a height of several kilometers (there were no cruise missiles and could not be there).
      Of course, there are debris, you can collect tons of them near detonated targets, 105 missiles nevertheless.
      The Americans stated 3 goals, demonstrated destroyed 3 goals - it’s better not to come up with proof.
      How much the Kyrgyz Republic spent on this is their personal business, they could send 10500, finances allow.
      Memory fails you, the last time with the air strike at the airfield was the same story.
    2. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 25 2018 21: 48
      +6
      Quote: BoomAndroid
      Well, start with the video interception? there is!

      You confuse interception with self-destruction. When intercepted after an explosion of warhead missiles, burning fragments of the destroyed object fly by inertia in the opposite direction from the missiles, this should be clearly visible at night. When self-destruction occurs undermining warhead missiles and everything, like a small salute, as demonstrated by Assad's air defense systems. For clarity, hitting the target with an air defense system cube
    3. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 25 2018 21: 55
      +1
      Quote: BoomAndroid
      And let's see what they provided? 105 missiles .. For three purposes?

      No matter how bitter it sounds, the Americans considered the possibility of interception
  23. CYM
    CYM April 25 2018 21: 07
    +2
    "... doubted that the Tomahawks and other western missiles shown in Moscow were shot down by Syrian air defense."
    Reminds an old joke.
    A hedgehog is standing in front of a mirror and is engaged in auto-training:
    - I will not fart ... I will not fart ... I will not fart ... I will not fart ...
    BUNCH!
    - It's not me ... It's not me ... smile
  24. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 25 2018 21: 13
    0
    Moral involvement? there is not even such a thing.
  25. Orionvit
    Orionvit April 25 2018 21: 13
    0
    Quote: Heterocapsa
    But how do you determine the country of manufacture?

    And how to determine the country of the operator? laughing Or do you think Tomahawk missiles are made in China?
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 25 2018 21: 14
    0
    One wise man told me - "Never confess, even if you were caught with your pants down in an interesting pose with a girlfriend ..." and, you know, it helped laughing
    But this applies to "personal life." Yes, this advice of my friend was adopted by all pro-I!
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  28. heir
    heir April 25 2018 21: 29
    0
    Or maybe it was not worth it, for the time being - for the time being, to publicize the fact of the delivery of these missiles to Russia? And so: well - they do not believe and - they do not believe. Which of these? And so, in recent years, a lot of information has come from Russia, regarding the superiority of Russian weapons.
  29. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher April 25 2018 21: 30
    +7
    Leavened patriots, as usual, were struck by amnesia, at first the news about two "practically intact" missiles, the secret of which will be "just revealed", was terribly happy. But instead, the MORF presents the crumpled debris for display, thereby causing the very amnesia. Such debris in Syria could be recovered a year ago, not to mention Afghanistan and Iraq.
    P. S: But the downed Tomahawk air defense located in a museum in Belgrade somehow looks more intact
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 25 2018 21: 51
      0
      Quote: Puncher
      P. S: But the downed Tomahawk air defense located in a museum in Belgrade somehow looks more intact

      Something about your Tomahawk nose cone is removed and the hatches are twisted manually. It looks as if the fuel tank has burned out, and the place where the GPS antenna and BB are located is completely intact, but it was only gutted manually and it was unlikely to be hit.
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher April 26 2018 04: 02
        +2
        Quote: APASUS
        Something at your Tomahawk

        He is not mine, but the Serbs. Suppose the authors of the exposition lied indicating that it was shot down by air defense?
        1. APASUS
          APASUS April 26 2018 07: 47
          0
          Quote: Puncher
          Suppose the authors of the exposition lied indicating that it was shot down by air defense

          I believe that a particular missile most likely fell due to a breakdown and was dismantled on the spot, and maybe a hundred or two are 2-3 missiles assembled for the exhibition in one
  30. Operator
    Operator April 25 2018 21: 37
    +1
    In each Kyrgyz Republic, a self-destructive vehicle is installed, which is triggered when a missile misses, misses or defeats anti-aircraft fire. You can get a whole rocket only in case of failure of the self-liquidator, which is very rare.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 25 2018 21: 53
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      In each Kyrgyz Republic, a self-destructive vehicle is installed, which is triggered when a missile misses, misses or defeats anti-aircraft fire. You can get a whole rocket only in case of failure of the self-liquidator, which is very rare.

      By no means, in case of damage to aerodynamic surfaces (as a result of exposure to air defense means), the Tomahawk is guaranteed to fall and not the fact that the fuse will work.
  31. Operator
    Operator April 25 2018 22: 11
    +1
    Quote: Puncher
    the fuse will fire

    In the event of a fall in the Kyrgyz Republic, a self-liquidator is activated.
    1. Grandfather Eugene
      Grandfather Eugene April 26 2018 01: 38
      0
      Is it possible to intercept the Tomahawk programmatically and drop it onto the ground, water, etc., so that the rocket not only does not detonate but remains relatively intact?
      1. macgyver
        macgyver April 26 2018 02: 25
        +1
        Well, given that it flies at the speed of a Boeing, it will fall to pieces in any case.
        The main thing is to get her brains, but in the explosion nothing will remain of them.
      2. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher April 26 2018 03: 59
        +1
        Quote: Grandfather Eugene
        Is it possible to intercept the Tomahawk programmatically and drop it onto the ground, water, etc., so that the rocket not only does not detonate but remains relatively intact?

        Interference to an altimeter (radar around the terrain) can cause a missile to fall, but you need to know the route, and this is almost impossible
        1. macgyver
          macgyver April 26 2018 11: 31
          0
          If in flight to crack the communication channel (which is theoretically possible). In addition to the program, there is a video camera in it. But I'm not sure about the presence of "brakes" ... probably somehow you can reduce the speed, only it is still large. Although if the truth is in the water ... or somewhere in the sand ... Hmm ...
      3. Operator
        Operator April 26 2018 09: 26
        +1
        EW means you can only drown out the Tomahawk radio altimeter, but then his computer will give a command to increase the flight altitude from 50 to 500 meters.

        After that, the Tomahawk will be easier to detect and shoot down with anti-aircraft missiles, which was demonstrated during the downing of the 2 / 3 Tomahawks on the 14 of April 2018.

        After an anti-aircraft missile enters the Kyrgyz Republic (as well as fuel exhausted, missed the target, aircraft equipment malfunction, engine malfunction, etc.), the Tomahawka computer gives a command to fire the self-liquidator - an additional fuse of the Tomahawka warhead.
        1. macgyver
          macgyver April 26 2018 17: 08
          0
          It depends on the principle of electronic warfare. "Satchel-E" with its microwave gun with an impulse of 500 mW, a rocket can burn all brains out of fuck for 14 km. They have already been exported to Iran ...
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol April 26 2018 05: 22
      0
      Quote: Operator
      Quote: Puncher
      the fuse will fire

      In the event of a fall in the Kyrgyz Republic, a self-liquidator is activated.

      why all of a sudden?
      1. Operator
        Operator April 26 2018 09: 30
        0
        Why isn’t Konashenkov visible in your photos? laughing
  32. muhomor
    muhomor April 25 2018 22: 46
    +2
    I assure you comrades, soon "they" will assure with blue eyes that judging by the numbers and markings of these missiles: 1 not them, 2 they were fabricated under meldonium, 3 they were lost in some kind of accident.
  33. aiden
    aiden April 25 2018 23: 34
    +2
    Su-30cm sunk decommissioned Syrian destroyer
    1. macgyver
      macgyver April 26 2018 02: 21
      0
      A subtle hint of fat circumstances.
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  35. macgyver
    macgyver April 26 2018 02: 20
    +2
    Those. the absence of a funnel in the epicenter of the explosion of 76 "tomahawks" to the middle of the Earth, what do they explain with what? Are the Tomahawks damp?
    1. MadCat
      MadCat April 26 2018 04: 16
      +3
      Quote: macgyver
      Those. the absence of a funnel in the epicenter of the explosion of 76 "tomahawks" to the middle of the Earth, what do they explain with what? Are the Tomahawks damp?

      here from what fright there should be a funnel to the center of the earth? Was there a nuclear mine blasted? There was no demolition synchronized to billionths of a second so that you could summarize the power of this demolition in the first class.
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 26 2018 08: 13
        +1
        I saw a 3-story house on which a banal 2СЗ 152 mm battery worked - no more than 50 shells hit it. So to say the least in general nothing remained and even more so, the neighboring buildings were badly cut, and funnels in place there were a lot of buildings.
        And to put it mildly, ten times more explosives thrown ....
      2. macgyver
        macgyver April 26 2018 11: 39
        +2
        Well, nothing should have been left from this center at all. And there the walls and floors overlap in places. Do not forget that the “tomahawk” is primarily a bunch of very powerful HMX explosives (although for some reason pedagogics believe that RDX, but I looked at the American patent for PXBN-107-Type II - it’s “octogen”, the most powerful one today, which is used in rocket science), plus the built-in mechanism for undermining kerosene residues "a la vacuum landmine", of which there are initially 2 barrels - so the power of the explosion depends on the time of approach, but this is a scribe ... approximately 500 kg TNT (minimum).
  36. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 26 2018 03: 25
    0
    Yeah, show them ... They will also impose sanctions until they return their lost toys ..
  37. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 26 2018 03: 29
    0
    "Smart" tamahawks themselves flew to give up !!!
  38. Wolka
    Wolka April 26 2018 04: 41
    0
    and what else remains for them to do
  39. Irina shamray
    Irina shamray April 26 2018 04: 43
    0
    Well, what else should they do but to yell and spit? They would have kept silent - they could have smart get off. And so they lied so much that even if they say that "the snow is white and the soot is black", there are already figs who will believe. Reputation, however!
  40. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 26 2018 06: 13
    +1
    They would be silent if they had gotten rid of the full program.
  41. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai April 26 2018 06: 47
    +2
    They believe, they do not believe, but according to FIG! Lazanulsya "exceptional". I guess they themselves scratch turnips what to do! tongue
  42. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz April 26 2018 07: 04
    0
    Ordinary American people will accept this statement at face value - after all, they don’t take fools into generals ... But experts didn’t have to show anything.
  43. HMR333
    HMR333 April 26 2018 07: 10
    0
    they will yell but that's just serial numbers)))
  44. Vard
    Vard April 26 2018 07: 52
    +2
    What is alarming ... this is a drop in the intelligence of the staff responsible for propaganda in the USA ... Well, there is no doubt that everything will come out ... And about missiles ... and about targets ... and about chemical weapons ... But it seems to they simply don’t get there ... As Zadornov said there ...
  45. agent
    agent April 26 2018 08: 59
    0
    those. now they need evidence, and their statements do not need evidence (they are secret).
    I think the best proof for amers will be the corpses of their troops. but it will be a completely different story ....
    1. CYM
      CYM April 27 2018 00: 09
      0
      Unfortunately, only a significant number of coffins under a star-striped flag always led the Americans out of the image of an exceptional nation. sad
  46. Gardarika
    Gardarika April 26 2018 09: 24
    +2
    Looking at how the United States opposes the proliferation of Russian air defense systems, one can understand that this weapon is effective.
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  48. faterdom
    faterdom April 26 2018 14: 26
    0
    And is anyone sure where the Minuteman 3 went yesterday?
  49. Shinbet
    Shinbet April 26 2018 19: 08
    0
    a lot of pathos at the expense of the number of shot down missiles. They piled up fragments in the desert, or maybe even in those places where the missiles were bombed, showed them on the Internet, on TV, then held a briefing in the form of taftalogy with an abundance of smart words, but there is no trust in all this.
    Just as there is no confidence in the account “we will bomb everyone who cross the space of Syria”, “we will shoot down not only missiles but also the sources of their launch” .. there are too many words. Well, why? even in the USSR there was no such loud chatter.