NATO in the Donbas. In the DPR announced the NATO control of the shelling of Yasinovataya

The official representative of the DPR command at today's briefing accused NATO of direct intervention in the conflict in the Donbas. The deputy commander of the operational command of the DPR, Colonel Edward Basurin, notes that the shelling of the village of Yasinovataya was carried out under the control of NATO military instructors. 120 and 82 mm gauges were used.

From the statement of Colonel Basurin:

According to our data, the leadership of this bombardment was conducted by NATO artillery servicemen who arrived the day before to conduct field tests and train Ukrainian security officials on the means of artillery reconnaissance AN / TPQ, produced and supplied by the USA to Ukraine.

According to the Colonel of the DPR Army, intelligence reports that several such complexes are located on the roofs of high-rise residential buildings in Avdiivka.

Recall that previously published footage from Avdeevka, where Ukrainian Tanks took positions directly in the courtyards of high-rise buildings.
In Ukraine, these statements have not yet commented.

It is known that NATO military instructors have long been present on Ukrainian territory. In particular, at the Yavorovo training ground in the Lviv region, American and Canadian military instructors have been working with members of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard for several years.

Comments

[Livonetc]

Open the season of sniper hunting for nater animals.

[bouncyhunter]

According to our data, the leadership of this bombardment was conducted by NATO artillery servicemen who arrived the day before to conduct field tests and train Ukrainian security officials on the means of artillery reconnaissance AN / TPQ, produced and supplied by the USA to Ukraine.

And here the mattresses and NATO yelled in a voice: "And where is the evidence ???" .

Quote: Livonetc

Open the season of sniper hunting for nater animals.

They will disown themselves - they will say that the production (in the best traditions of their favorite double standards).

[japs]

They say that in Russia a large-caliber sniper rifle is produced. It is interesting to look at bench tests on targets on the roof of a high-rise building. Just curious...

[bouncyhunter]

Jury

Quote: japs

They say that in Russia a large-caliber sniper rifle is produced.

Several models.

Quote: japs

It is interesting to look at bench tests.

Here's a video for you on YouTube that lacks something similar:

[Sergey ippon]

Our Kovrov-with the sight of a whip, stray.

[mamertinets]

I didn’t comment on the Ukrainian-Ukrainian conflict (the conflict in the Donbass), but the statement of respected Basurin is really interesting - how can you determine who shot specifically? Ukrainians or NATO? Has Basurin determined this based on accuracy of shooting or according to his intelligence data?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: mamertinets

Did Basurin determine this based on firing accuracy or according to his intelligence data?

The second option is believable, but who will tell us the truth?

[sabakina]

Pash, it seems to me, in this case it is more logical to use ATGMs with a remote fuse and PF actions. A sniper will not cover everyone with one shot.

[bouncyhunter]

Will not cover, I agree. But which is simpler: detect PU anti-tank systems after a shot or sniper?

[sabakina]

Pasha, of course, ATGM, but its range gives an advantage. Moreover, if this apparatus suffers from a shot ... I think a distance of 5-6 km will allow us to avoid the answer. Well, unless of course clap a mitt.

[bouncyhunter]

There are already its own nuances. Agree that it is easier for a sniper (or sniper pair) to change position than to calculate an ATGM. And if the enemy still has a cunning technique that can calculate the location of the launch by shot and an artillery battery (or even MLRS) ready for salvo, then you understand.

[sabakina]

Okay Pash, I can’t argue, the second option. Quadcopters are "suicide bombers" with a land mine on board. Of course, a penny model will not work, you need a normal one with a normal flight altitude, so that you can not see it with your eye, or hear it with your ear. Well, optics are not the cheapest.

[bouncyhunter]

There are options, here I do not argue. The question is different: will they decide on the power option?

[Sergey ippon]

in different ways, right now drones, thermal imagers
not like before.

[faridg7]

Quote: sabakina

Pash, it seems to me, in this case it is more logical to use ATGMs with a remote fuse and PF actions. A sniper will not cover everyone with one shot.

The complex is installed on the roof of a residential building. Will you sleep in peace later?

[svd-xnumx]

but the statement of respected Basurin is already very interesting - how can one determine who shot specifically? Ukrainians or NATO? Basurin determined this based on the accuracy of the shooting or according to his intelligence data?

And where did you read that Basurin said this, the article says

According to our information, the NATO artillery personnel led the shelling,

as if leadership and shooting are two different things. And the fact that the NATO could well arrange a "final" exam for trained puppies can I believe.

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: mamertinets

how can you determine - who specifically shot? Ukrainians or NATO? Basurin determined this, based on accuracy of shooting or according to his intelligence data?

Here is the answer to your not quite correct comment:
The deputy commander of the DPR operational command, Colonel Eduard Basurin, notes that the shelling of the settlement of Yasinovataya was carried out under the control of NATO military instructors. The calibers used were 120 and 82 mm.

Please read the article carefully before comments!
Basurin did not say that the NATO fired ...

[Logall]

That's for sure the animals on the roofs of houses equip points. They hide behind people like jihadists. Democrats are sucks!

[sabakina]

Sasha, the roof of the house is also a normal target, you can destroy the calculation without damaging the roof.

[Lord of the Sith]

We were very noisy tonight and morning.

Fixed shelling by the APU in the following areas:
▶ ️4: 30-5: 00 - n.a. Shirokino - n.p. Kominternovo: 2 shots from LNG were fired, 15 shots from AGS;
▶ ️5: 50-6: 10 - n.a. Zaitsevo North - n.p. Zaitsevo South: 2 mines with a caliber of 120 mm were fired;
▶ ️6: 10-6: 30 - n.a. Avdeevka - n.p. Yasinovataya: 2 mines of 82 mm caliber were fired, 4 RPG shots were fired;
▶ ️6: 20-6: 40 - n.a. Avdeevka (military unit) - n.p. Spartak: 10 min. Caliber 82 mm was released; heavy machine guns and small arms were also used;
▶ ️6: 25-7: 20 - n.a. Vodyanoe - n.p. Leninsky: 30 min. Caliber 120 mm;
▶ ️6: 30-7: 00 - n.a. Avdeevka - n.p. Yakovlevka: 42 mines with a caliber of 82 mm, 10 shots from LNG, 7 shots from RPGs, 58 shots from AGS;
▶ ️6: 55-7: 20 - n.a. Avdeevka - n.p. Mineral: 8 minutes were fired with a caliber of 120 mm, 21 mines with a caliber of 82 mm, 11 shots from LNG, 15 shots from RPGs, 87 shots from AGS were fired;
▶ ️7: 05-7: 30 - n.a. Zaitsevo - n.p. Zaitsevo: 8 shots were fired from a smooth-bore anti-tank gun with a caliber of 100 mm;
▶ ️7: 10-7: 30 - n.a. Avdeevka (military unit) - n.p. Spartak: released 13 minutes with a caliber of 120 mm;
▶ ️7: 15-7: 45 - n.p. Golmovsky: 4 mines with a caliber of 120 mm were fired;
▶ ️7: 25-7: 55 - n.p. Novoluganskoye - NP Dolomitnoye: 9 minutes with a caliber of 120 mm were fired, 5 rounds from BMP-1 were fired;
▶ ️11: 00-11: 40 - n.a. Gnutovo - n.p. Kominternovo: 58 shots from the AGS were fired;
▶ ️11: 35-12: 10 - n.a. Verkhnetoretsk upper - n.p. Verkhnetoretsk lower: 4 shots from LNG were fired, using small arms;
▶ ️13: 00-13: 30 - n.a. Avdeevka (military unit) - n.p. Spartak: 29 rounds were fired from the ASG, using heavy machine guns and small arms;
▶ ️13: 15-13: 45 - n.p. Avdeevka - n.p. Yakovlevka: 3 RPG shots were fired, using small arms;
▶ ️14: 25 - n.p. Gnutovo - n.p. Yakovlevka: fired in 19 minutes with a caliber of 120 mm, fired from 29 rounds of anti-tank missiles;
▶ ️14: 45-15: 30 - n.a. Bogdanovka - n.p. Styla: 10 minutes with a caliber of 120 mm were fired, 10 shots from BMP-1 were fired, 20 shots from BMP-2;
▶ ️15: 40-16: 20 - n.a. Zaitsevo North - n.p. Zaitsevo South: 3 anti-tank missiles launched, 3 fired from LNG;
▶ ️15: 45-16: 25 - n.a. Maryinka - n.p. Trudovskys: 3 shots were fired from BMP-1, using small arms;
▶ ️17: 25-18: 00 - n.a. Avdeevka - n.p. Yakovlevka: 2 mines with a caliber of 82 mm were fired;
▶ ️17: 45 - n.p. Vodyanoe - n.p. Leninsky: ** released 16 min with a caliber of 120 mm.

[zart_arn]

We were very noisy tonight and morning.

Sergey, thank you very much for the information from the front line. Your information is always objective, even when it goes against the cheers-patriotic moods.

[Lord of the Sith]

Please.
But the ATO report for a day of 69 shelling, 11 injured.

[sabakina]

Sergey, , I have a question. With their miracle apparatus, did they scout your artillery positions or simply taught to point at an object of the "structure" type? Yours worked at this time?

[Lord of the Sith]

They work in the already broken-down suburbs. And ours are by their batteries. For 4 years, the division, which is 300 meters away from me, has never flown, as well as the neighboring batteries.

[sabakina]

Sergey, THAT, which I can’t understand. They should be taught to scout your batteries, but what? I am civilized, and that, well, I can’t understand the logic of this training.

[Lord of the Sith]

They see from UAVs and anti-battery systems and know where the batteries, headquarters, barracks, firing points, equipment are. But do not cover them at all. Remember Givi and Motorola how many near the Airport in their headquarters flaunted. The front end suffers and the guys from the East to Yabp.

[sabakina]

Sergey, I think I get it. It's like in a driving school. At first you do not study a racetrack, and then they are released into the city. Only instead of the race track do they have communications, knowledge, telegraph poles in the end ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Fighter Fifteen "Sign" on the situation at the Avdeevsky industrial zone

[Sergey ippon]

Chiri will break through, maybe for the better?

[vovanpain]

notes that the shelling of the village of Yasinovataya was carried out under the control of NATO military instructors.

It didn’t work out in Syria, NATO members are planning a dirty trick in the Donbass, we do not take Ukrainians into account, this is just an expendable material for NATO.

[Lelek]

Quote: vovanpain

It didn’t work out in Syria, NATO members are planning a dirty trick in the Donbass, we do not take Ukrainians into account, this is just an expendable material for NATO.

Donbass is an American "B" plan. It did not take place in Syria, they hit in Armenia, in Armenia things got stuck, they’ll hit in the Donbas (maybe Russia will be pierced somewhere). By the way, the fate of the non-dependable was predetermined by Western "architects" back in 2014, as told by political expert Alexei Gromyko.

So that a strike in the Donbass can be expected at any time, but it won’t work out in the Donbass, there is a “G” plan somewhere in the Arctic.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Livonetc

Open the season of sniper hunting for nater animals.

And not only! "RT" and "Sputnik", and all Russian media should scream loudly - "NATO is killing civilians in Donbass !!!" Let them make excuses, you bastard!

[Cat]

As usual, they will express deep concern over the shelling by the "Russian-terrorist forces" of their own positions. Supinity believes.

[Antares]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Let them make excuses, you bastard!

There is no trust in Basurin with his statements. Sense to refute something? Easier to ignore. Both sides sometimes carry this steeper than Peskov.
But at the moment, Basurin is unproven, offers to believe "his intelligence information", given that radars were trained from 2015 to 2017 at the training ground of the Lviv region (instructor) and there was news for a long time. Most likely I will believe the previous comments about the fact that both sides are well aware of where the targets (batteries) are. But the agreement of the "concerned" partners on both sides of the Dnieper , by the border of course ..

[Sergey Medvedev]

Since these "instructors" were at the forefront, it would be time for them to suffer losses.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Sergei Medvedev

Since these "instructors" were at the forefront, it would be time for them to suffer losses.

They are very well placed, so to remove them from there you need to commit a war crime:

According to the colonel of the DPR army, intelligence reports that several such complexes are located on the roofs of multi-story residential houses of Avdeevka.

It would be different, their "barrel-wheels" would have covered them so long ago and this issue would not have been raised.

[sabakina]

Stormbreaker, I could be wrong, but I think we have the means to destroy the calculation on the roof of the house without damaging the house itself. I'm not talking about a sniper.

[Cat]

So it’s only the Soviet Union had enough ... well, let's say, charisma to hammer on bearded camps in Pakistan, and then make an goat’s face - they say they themselves were blown up, krivoruk by nature

[Cat]

p.e.d.o.s.a.m

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: sabakina

Thunderbolt

And you won’t hurt these skyscrapers ... I’ll remind you that people live in Avdeevka, schools function. Surely all approaches to the houses are well guarded, during a normal war these NATO members would simply be demolished with artillery along with high-rise buildings. But we all know that there strange war. And by the way, it coincided that at that moment specialists in conducting information operations arrived in Avdeevka. Therefore, you can’t even give them a reason to open the mug in the direction of the DPR, and therefore Russia.

25.04.2018 - 16: 22
11 Our intelligence obtained data on the arrival of the Radio Liberty film crew in the Avdeevka region with the aim of preparing reports on the work of the Ukrainian side of the JCCC in this village.
Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1524657211

[Cat]

there is a strange war.

More than weird. A sample of the First World War. Arty is full, the front line is held for the fourth year

[DPN]

Having not completed everything in 2014, Russia allowed to restore and strengthen the army of Ukraine, in general, this is bad for Russia.

[Cat]

to restore and strengthen the army of Ukraine

The controversial statement - only changed clothes, and even then not all

[Kerensky]

Russia allowed to restore and strengthen the army of Ukraine,

And this is not bad. Suddenly the power will change? Will the UNION fighting army on the western borders hinder us?
After all, it is clear that they can’t compete with the Russian army, they won’t go to Moscow .... But back? What is there in the West? Lyakhi?

[Cat]

Suddenly the power will change?

Yeah, change. There is only one side - steal even more

[Cat]

The principle of any power in / in Ukraine is "nazarjuvati on N carbovantsiv - that th vtekti"

[Kerensky]

Personnel! Footage my dear! Yes, and do not give a damn about the authorities, but to prepare a good officer, and with knowledge of the theater of war, years are needed. So where to get them later? Well, not all the same villains ....

[Romario_Argo]

Well, not all the villains ....

I think that at the hour "X" not villains will take the Supreme Rada in Kiev, to the rocket accompaniment of Iskander and Su-34 -35

[Kerensky]

will take the supreme parliament in Kiev,

Quite possible. Despite the efforts of the current government, sane people still remained, including among the officers. There are hereditary officers who were not hammered in schools, and grandfathers told how everything was.

[Cat]

sane people still remained

Maybe I don’t argue. But preference for admission to military universities is given to the attorneys or their children, origin from app. Ukraine is welcomed with arms and legs.
And, by the way, the term university in / in Ukraine is canceled. Now it’s “mortgages are blessed”

[Cat]

supreme rad

But who needs it, this trash

[Cat]

Yeah, and even with the experience of commanding insane avatars. Then the angel will become a villain.

[Kerensky]

And, by the way, the term university in / in Ukraine is canceled. Now it’s “mortgages are blessed”

And do not give a damn! It’s all the same a university with an established educational system, with a teaching staff. This is not bad.

and even with the experience of commanding insane avatars.

Invaluable experience! Let them command. But when they get normal personnel ...
Well, until they get it, of course. But the frames must be kept. The wind will change, I believe ...

[Dietmar]

I hope that after the successful 2018 World Cup Russia will firmly help the Donbass (I hope other regions, my native Zaporozhye) get rid of the occupation regime of the Bandera scum and their minions. And the people there will have to point out the perpetrators of the genocide of Ukraine, judge by a military tribunal. Send to serve time in the Turukhansk region.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Dietmar

Send to serve time in the Turukhansk region.

Better marathon swim in the Arctic Ocean is carried out, swim to the pole. And you don’t need to dirty your hands.

[Cat]

swim to the pole

To relatives, in Canada. Across the pole. Those who did not swim - equestrian bust at home

[cedar]

There are not only military instructors. There, for a long time, the State Department, the CIA, and a bunch of advisers of various ranks settled down and act like at home. The Kiev junta is nothing more than a fig leaf covering the shame of the Amerzian government.

[Cat]

There are not only military instructors.

Which, in fact, is natural for any civil war. T.N. instructors, volunteers, and entire formations like the Condor legion in the Spanish Civil War.

[Antares]

Quote: cedar

There, for a long time, the State Department, the CIA, and a bunch of advisers of various ranks settled down and act like at home. The Kiev junta is nothing more than a fig leaf covering the shame of the Amerzian government.

Horror ... Do Trapnashi have no villas there, plant trees with Macron? Not yet transferred the Washington region to the Kiev region? Dear Ukrainian partners with the best choice of the Ukrainian people, Pyotr Alekseyevich (legitimately elected president by the way) .. didn’t you miss anything? What junta is already 4 years old? They themselves agreed, they themselves signed up, they themselves created "partners" and they themselves fostered along with other partners.
The use of the term “junta” (it didn’t even fit) completely lost its meaning, but the fact that under the control of the United States is that there are a lot of things in the world under the control of the USA.

[Horst78]

The photo is characteristic. Fascist NATO greets fascist vsu.

[kefan]

I hope that instructors from Russia (so to speak informally) are also present on the side of LDNR.

[samarin1969]

Obviously, Basurin saw the "peacekeepers" who arrived according to the plan of Moscow.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well, they would have thrown it there, having multiplied what had flown by 10. You look, and the ardor would have been reduced by the NATO warriors.

[sabakina]

Vasily, the high-rise, too, "multiply"?

[CAT BAIYUN]

Your truth. If residential, then by no means. But I did not get excited - I foresaw a similar question. Perhaps you need to find another method to destroy these warriors. You might think that it’s impossible to “throw” the rest of their positions ...

[sabakina]

Vasily, I’m racking my brains myself ... Long-barreled snipers, ATGMs with PFs, Quadcopters in gear ... Damn, even dig out Garin’s engineer!

[Dormidont]

Good NATO - Dead NATO

[Cat]

Better captive, with shovel

[Victoria-V]

In Avdeevka, Ukrainian tanks directly in the courtyards of apartment buildings shot residents in apartments.

[Russia]

Quote: Victoria-In

In Avdeevka, Ukrainian tanks directly in the courtyards of apartment buildings shot residents in apartments.

Viktoria, I’ve already got it, please, blow water to the hut to the hut.

[Victoria-V]

Good to you on the couch in Moscow ...

[Russia]

Less botany dill, and then the task does not have time to complete, in principle, has already been identified and identified, greetings to gunpowder.

[sabakina]

Rusland, but what did the user with the nickname Victoria-V say bad? Or didn’t he say so? Do not immediately run into a person.

[Cat]

So we're not on tanks - just on sofas

[Cat]

In Avdeevka, Ukrainian tanks

.. they can only beg for a fuel station to return to the Western Ridna, and even moonshine to a tanker to refuel, so as not to get lost. Ato wake up - and around Russia

[Victoria-V]

The tanks were NATO soldiers.

[Victoria-V]

Bandera time to finish once and for all

[Victoria-V]

And Rusland (Rusland) too. Explicit agent of Israel.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Victoria-In

Explicit agent of Israel.

The daughter of the Bandera policeman ....
Names of countries are capitalized.
But you, Maybutne, remember the Russian language of Tokma here .....

[Victoria-V]

1. I am from Horlivka. 2. What was offended that I wrote your country with a small letter? 3. I wish you Jews the best of luck in Tel Aviv ...

[ul_vitalii]

Some arguments for children, not even interesting Ilyich, welcome It looks like children are sending us to our site, experience is not enough.

[sabakina]

Victor! I am not a psychologist, but I feel there is something ... At least the person is not bad. Must see. I do not boast, but I have a flair for people. I don’t feel bad yet.

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: sabakina

Victor! I am not a psychologist, but I feel there is something ... At least the person is not bad. Must see. I do not boast, but I have a flair for people. I don’t feel bad yet.

Glory, welcome For beaten, they give two unbeaten, if they made a mistake, we will support a friend in the future.

[sabakina]

You said correctly!

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Some arguments for children

Quote: sabakina

Ilyich, do not chop off your shoulder

The other day I caught Qiu Dyvchyn on flood and lies. That's why he called it that.

stalkerwalker (call me simply - Ilyich) 7 23 April 2018 22: 45 | Moscow strikes a critical blow to the capabilities of the US Air Force: what will the research of the surviving missiles reveal?
Quote: Victoria-In
So, like RIA Novosti, with reference to Pavel Sozinov, it reported the explosion of one of the delivered American missile AGM-158 in Kirov (BRANCH No. 2 of the Almaz-Antey air defense concern).
A reference, sister ... Or will you be another "daughter of an ohvitser" ....

And then I wondered then, supposedly the link doesn’t open, and finally ... now it’s from Horlivka, an orphan ....

[sabakina]

Ilyich, well, let's still watch. We are on the couch, not in an ambush ....

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: sabakina

Ilyich, well, let's still watch. We are on the couch, not in an ambush ....

Glory, are you waiting for a private on-line dance from Gorlovka?

[sabakina]

Ilyich, do not chop off your shoulder, you need to figure it out. And then, as in the movie "The Last Armored Train" about slippers ...

[ul_vitalii]

Need NATO language and put next to the downed axes. Here they say exhibits from Syria, and this is from Dill, just fed, does not complain, said everything, asks to go home to Europe

[Victoria-V]

Here is the answer to all pseudo-experts: Military expert Igor Korotchenko called the information spread by the American media about the "freezing" of the joint development of Russia and India by a fifth-generation fighter based on the Su-57.

[Normal ok]

From the statement of Colonel Basurin:

Another blah, blah, blah ...

[Chaos]

The Georgians were also preparing NATO. The result is known.