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Yalta Economic Forum. We wanted the best, but we got a goat farm

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Do you know Ukrainian Crimea? Oh, you do not know Ukrainian Crimea! Peer into it. Soviet roads patched by modern Armenian brigades (“Tavrida” has not yet been built), clean air, not poisoned by factories and plants (because they are almost gone), local gas stations sell diluted gasoline, unknown on the “big land” banks are disconnected from Swift , and in stores, local goods prices are higher than prices for them in Rostov Pyaterochka ...




And in the midst of all this splendor stands “Mriya”, in which 3000 people all eat food together, calling their meeting “Yalta Economic Forum”.

The media, shouting over each other, are full of headlines, calling the forum “breakthrough” and surpassing all possible expectations. Although the forum did not have Mr. Gref, who from the stage would have announced the closure of all foreign branches of Sberbank, or rather, about transferring them to the cities and towns of Crimea.

On the contrary, the Greek Sberbank quietly collected its profits from the Crimean government, which paid for the rent owned by Sberbank Mriya for the duration of the forum, and then continued to improve its best workers on the Crimean coast, which does not have any of its branches.

Introductory

Back in the distant 2013, one Ukrainian newspaper, telling about the future 5-star hotel in the village of landslide, wrote that the construction was carried out by the Turkish company “Sembol insaat”, the customer was the Simferopol company “Garant-SV”, controlled by Sberbank of Russia, which in 2010 year bought pension "Mriya".

“Mriya” in Ukrainian means “dream”. So called a large transport aircraft An-225. Also the name “Mriya” was carried by a portable tape recorder of the Kiev factory and a portable radio-recorder, assembled in Dnepropetrovsk. Now this name bears the hotel "Resort and Spa" - the most expensive hotel in Crimea with presidential villas.

In 2018, the 4 Economic Forum was held at Mriya. Chairman of the organizing committee of the forum - the head of the Republic of Crimea Sergey Aksenov. According to the organizers, the forum was visited by 3000 people from 70 countries.

Participation in the forum and three-day accommodation in a “standard” room cost 130 000 rubles, for foreign guests - for free.

Yalta is better than Davos!

Andrei Nazarov, co-chairman of the organizing committee of the forum, solemnly concluded that international interest in the Yalta forum is growing higher than in the world forum in Davos, Switzerland.

Nazarov did not report on world-famous companies that had moved from the chairs of the Davos forum to Mriya chairs.

But he said that signing of agreements worth 150 billion rubles was expected. And only one of the projects planned at the forum has declassified. According to him, one of the big projects to be implemented following the results of the forum is the creation of a goat farm in the Crimea worth 6 billion rubles. Such is the innovation! Especially admires the value of the farm.

Opinion analyst: forums are congresses of sectarians and propagandists

Yalta Economic Forum. We wanted the best, but we got a goat farm

Flashmob ordered by forum organizers


Forum participant, Crimean analyst Dmitry Dervish spoke very harshly about such events.

“Forums in Russia are congresses, on the one hand, of propagandists, on the other hand, sectarians. Some say: “We are witnesses of the coming of Gaidar the Second”, while others supplement them: “We are carriers of the technologies of the late CPSU. We know how propaganda workers can force the hotel director to feed all conference participants. We know how, with the help of the local house of culture, to arrange the dances of friendship of peoples for the participants of the conference.


These forums are an attempt to extend the resuscitation of those institutions that have died, are incapable and which could be honorably buried. Such forums can be compared with films about zombies: walking, staggering, ghouls, even, maybe, they want to eat, having gotten together in crowds, but they already have no goals, no ability to manage their own lives, and even more so, to rule the country around them.

In Russia, it is already time to decide: we are for the creation of a new effective and successful life in the country, or we want to lead a crowd of dead people who are marking time.

If you look at the results of the talkers of the previous forums, you can see that almost nothing is implemented.

It is ridiculous when they say that the result of the previous forums was the construction of the airport in Simferopol.

First, the new terminal was started up due to the crumbling runway and the modest size of the old airport, not modernized by Ukraine.

Secondly, the terminal became the “construction site of the century” along with the Crimean bridge. All this is Moscow’s attempts to create senses-catalysts for the new life of the Crimeans.

And thirdly, in 2016, the airport construction project was initiated by the state because of the increased passenger traffic to the Crimea, then conditionally commercial banks of the peninsula were pulled up to the project, which took half the cost, and in the 2 forum in Yalta they had to sign it in a demonstrative way.

Dmitry Dervish comments on the situation:

“I believe that such ideas as a new airport are not born in the heads of the three thousand forum, but in the head of one manager and one financier. According to the theory of the crowd, the larger the team, the less it is capable of generating creative content, and even more so for its implementation. You can not conceive a child in a 3000 people crowd and you can not create a project in a crowd of 3000 people. Such forums can only ascribe to themselves such projects, and nothing more. Small creative teams are a synergy of a higher dream, and large crowds are a synergy of base, shameful desires (to steal, saw, get enough). ”


The inefficiency of the forum on the example of marina

At the economic forum in Yalta, the idea was sounded to create in the Crimea a yacht marina - parking for yachts traveling around the Black Sea. At the same time, not a single yachting expert was invited to the forum who would explain one secret using the example of Turkey.

Yachtsman from Evpatoria named Alexander told us the subtleties of this case.

“Do you know why in Turkey the project with marinas was built in 10 years, while in our country the same 10 years were spent discussing this project in forums? Because the Turks at first radically changed the maritime legislation, and afterwards the investors had already formed in a row. To now go to sea in Turkey, you need to make one call, and in Russia - 14 calls! In Turkey, it takes 1 a minute, but in Russia it can take two weeks! ”


So, what project of yacht marinas can be spoken on the forums, while the forum organizing committee, which consists entirely of officials, did not ask the Russian government whether it is possible to amend the legislation ?! Or did not show legislative initiative at the regional level?

One marina in the sea - not the case!

Another problem in the discussion of the project of yacht marina on the forum is a non-systemic vision. The essence of yachting is a journey from the marina to the marina, which differ from each other in their kitchens, art objects, music, museum complexes.

With regard to the Crimea, it is worthwhile to discuss the project at least 12 marines at a distance of 60-70 km (one refueling of the yacht on the motor). It's like with a sow, which can be farted only 10-12 piglets, but not one, as this is a deviation. But the forum participants discussed the creation of a yacht marina. In the singular. On a dedicated section for this.


An example of unsystematic: the project of the studio of A. Lebedev "Balaclava Marina"


The cost of building a single yacht complex - 100-120 million. Ideally, initiatives from investors from the Crimea, Bulgaria, Georgia, Abkhazia should have been heard at the forum, which would solemnly create a common fund for the construction of the Black Sea yacht marina network consisting of 40-50 complexes. But that did not happen.

I wish Mira Abkhazia proud!

By the way, about Abkhazia. At the 2-th Yalta Economic Forum in 2016, an agreement was signed between the Council of Ministers of the Republic of Crimea and the Cabinet of Ministers of the Republic of Abkhazia in the framework of trade, economic, scientific, technical and humanitarian cooperation. There were no interesting projects under this agreement (except for the performances of Abkhaz dance groups in the Crimea) over the past two years.

At the 4-th Yalta forum in 2018, the delegation from Abkhazia visited a number of sites that are of great interest to the republic. The Deputy Minister of Economy of Abkhazia Zaur Gulia told about what exactly is interesting to the Abkhazians:

“First of all, it concerns the development of the tourism industry, and Abkhazia has an interest in studying the successful experience of such economic projects. Using the platform provided by the forum, we also establish working contacts. ”


It turns out that the agreement on cooperation between the Crimea and Abkhazia signed at the forum before the last was a mere formality? And for two years now, two republics have only made contacts?

The main idea of ​​the forums is to eat for free.

As one political analyst from Moscow said: “Do you think people come to the forum to decide something? And no. I will be noted now and will go to Massandra to drink the “Old Nectar”, and then to the mountains ... ”

Thus, the majority of forum participants are going to live, eat and rest “for free”. Initially, the forums thought differently.

Continuing the opinion of the Crimean analyst Dmitry Dervish:

“In my view, the forum is the so-called“ vanity fair ”, where men are dressed in tuxedos, women in expensive evening dresses, and baked quails are on the tables. Such a platform is a great opportunity to meet two business people, briefly try on plans for the future, exchange phone numbers in order to meet and discuss a specific matter after the forum.
But what I saw on the Yalta forum is very different from what was described. First, there were no people who need to meet. There are officials who lack any ideas. There are “wedding generals” who were invited for the status of the event. What would one yachtsman with one official or one “wedding general” talk about that decide nothing? He can only clap loudly at general sessions and eat heavily. Therefore, it’s not even a “vanity fair”, it’s a freebie fair. ”


As a conclusion



Large forums are designed to demonstrate the basic mainstream for the country. The Yalta Forum is a demonstration of Russia's knee-bending position before the West. “Look, we are ready to play according to your rules, we are ready to give you our resources, we are ready to live on your currency, we are open and available despite the sanctions that you impose on us! We are ready to put your interests above the interests of our citizens! ”

“This is nonsense - to talk about sanctions on the territory of Sberbank, which, due to fear of sanctions, is afraid to open branches in the Crimea!” - says our interlocutor from the Council of Ministers of Crimea, who asked not to call him in the article.

A representative of the Italian agrarian company Eddie Tomat, who came to the forum for important business contacts, sadly told us that with all the pomp of the organization of the forum and the abundance of delicious food in his region of Veneto, he was leaving without result.

The only joy of a foreign guest is that he does not need to pay an organizational fee (130 000 rubles, obligatory for Russians). This little discrimination of their own citizens is very indicative of the situation in Crimea. For the sake of the weight of reports about representatives of 70 countries visiting the forum, the Crimean authorities took the money to hold the forum in the pockets of Russian participants and taxpayers. Tricky move!

This is similar to updating asphalt along the route of the presidential motorcade, which is used by careless leaders of the Russian regions. If any event should have a result, then the main result of the YIEF is beautiful headlines in the media and ... the goat farm project.

Some kind of wrong Russia came to the Crimea and shared some wrong experience with local managers.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 26 2018 05: 52
    +17
    the undead walk around, staggering, maybe even hungry in crowds, but they no longer have goals or the ability to manage their own lives, let alone control the country around them.
    and there are a lot of such people in the government!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 26 2018 06: 46
      +22
      while such "economists" in power, Russia will "tie the shoelaces" ...
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 April 26 2018 07: 28
        +8
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        while such "economists" in power, Russia will "tie the shoelaces" ...

        what Yurich, you somehow admired the Armenian opposition, I congratulate you on the "new Ukraine" at the spurs of Ararat! wink
        1. Alber
          Alber April 26 2018 12: 03
          +4
          Quote: Serg65
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          while such "economists" in power, Russia will "tie the shoelaces" ...

          what Yurich, you somehow admired the Armenian opposition, I congratulate you on the "new Ukraine" at the spurs of Ararat! wink

          Cool! 6 billion Armenian pavers and goat farm ...
          For 6 lards, you can set up a thousand cool farms, but here one. The owner of the farm will probably be a Chubai?
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 April 26 2018 12: 14
            +1
            Quote: Alber
            goat farm for 6 billion ...

            co-chairman of the all-Russian public the organization "Business Russia" Andrei Nazarov said ...
            These are our Russian leaders for the production of goat milk and related products, they go to the Crimea and begin to build a farm

            Russian leaders in milk production are certainly dumber than you and their brains are with a gulkin tail!
            Quote: Alber
            Armenian pavers

            laughing good I beg you ... what pavers ?????
            1. Alf
              Alf April 26 2018 21: 29
              +4
              Quote: Serg65
              I beg you ... what pavers ?????

              Like these ones.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus April 26 2018 07: 18
      +1
      Do you want the current government to break everything ???
      all that was “built” —determined the development vector back in the 80's?

      Antivirus 6 April 24, 2018 21:28 pm | The backward country of Russia. It’s one tooth for the Pentagon!
      it’s better - SILENCE TO DO WHAT WE NEED, TO BE BELIEVED AND FOR ANOTHER TIME ... words-
      vary between CARE and STRONG CARE
      but this is the end of all words from the second (LIBrezhnev) detente and "convergence" - from YuVandropov to "sovereign democracy" - the end of 2000
      30 years swept their tracks and did not believe their own words?
      A complaint
    3. Vend
      Vend April 26 2018 09: 57
      +7
      Do you know Ukrainian Crimea? Oh, you do not know the Ukrainian Crimea!
      laughing Crying Svidomo about the losses. laughing I did not even read further. laughing
    4. 210ox
      210ox April 26 2018 10: 34
      +3
      Yes Vladimir hi Too many .. "unusual" Russians ....
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      the undead walk around, staggering, maybe even hungry in crowds, but they no longer have goals or the ability to manage their own lives, let alone control the country around them.
      and there are a lot of such people in the government!
    5. Maksus
      Maksus April 26 2018 20: 01
      +2
      Yes, we have such a fair in all "forums". See for yourself - in March in Vienna there is a European forum of radiologists, new techniques, equipment, discussions. And then at the end of April in St. Petersburg - the Nevsky Radiological Forum, which attracts those who did not have enough money for a vein to listen to those who were there. And the reports will be European and the news will be the same as ours.
    6. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 26 2018 20: 54
      0
      Yes, read all of these - Akromya Shoigu and the heads of the tax specialist, all geeks and bureaucrats. Even Puchkov after Shoichu was able to break up the Ministry of Emergencies (( negative . It seems that Shoigu should be put on the president so that he would make ALL work and not stuff pockets stolen.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus April 26 2018 21: 33
        0
        Valery Gerasimov - a normal uncle, quite sane, I still found him as the commander of the LenVO.
  2. savage1976
    savage1976 April 26 2018 05: 54
    +18
    Alas, we have such a tradition, we can’t take our own people into account, but before the Western ones they can creep in and out. And the sense from these forums (obscene word lingering) is simply zero, or rather losses alone.
    1. icant007
      icant007 April 27 2018 20: 45
      0
      Well, what is the reason for such a worship of Westerners? This is all from the same opera, why we prefer foreign cars and holidays abroad.
  3. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 April 26 2018 05: 57
    +12
    Nda ... It's a shame. All that is capable of as a result of this forum is to build a goat (such an animal) farm. For 6 billion. And these people are teaching us to pick their nose.
  4. Greenwood
    Greenwood April 26 2018 06: 32
    +30
    The Yalta Forum is a demonstration of the knee-bowed pose of Russia before the West. “Look, we are ready to play according to your rules, we are ready to give you our resources, we are ready to live on your currency, we are open and accessible in spite of the sanctions that you impose on us! We are ready to put your interests above the interests of our citizens! ”
    Here it is, the main idea of ​​the article. And no matter how patriots get puffed up, as if on trundles about the heroic confrontation with the West on federal television channels, at a lower (everyday) level one can clearly see what their confrontation is worth. Alas.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 April 26 2018 07: 24
      +7
      Quote: Greenwood
      Here it is, the main idea of ​​the article

      smile Yes, no buddy, the point of the article is this ...
      Some kind of wrong Russia came to the Crimea and shared some wrong experience with local managers.

      And everything else is an enticing cherry! Some kind of analyst Dervish, whom no one knows, some kind of yachtsman named Alexander, laughing generally Vasya Pupkin against !!!!
      Well, the expected
      Quote: Maverick1812
      Oil painting .... Great Pu, may the sun and food send us!

      am Give Armenia, death to the oligarchs!
      Ahh, well, the slogan “PENSIONS TO PENSIONERS!” Is already forgotten as unnecessary.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2018 08: 38
        +10
        Quote: Serg65
        generally Vasya Pupkin against !!!!

        And if Vasya says that 2 + 2 = 4, will you argue only on the basis that he has the last name Pupkin? wink
        Quote: Serg65
        Give Armenia, death to the oligarchs!

        Where is the connection between Armenia and the death of the oligarchs? belay
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 26 2018 11: 32
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And if Vasya says that 2 + 2 = 4, you will argue

          laughing Vasya Pupkin is an army collective image, he is more interested in the question of whether. that the earth is round or square, and all of your 2 + 2 = 4 his brain is completely not exciting. wink
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Where is the connection between Armenia and the death of the oligarchs?

          the connection is very direct ... you want to change power and become a “king” yourself, think of the slogan “Death to the oligarchs”, is it a bad slogan? "Death to the bourgeoisie" when it did not work badly wink
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 26 2018 14: 30
            +5
            Quote: Serg65
            "Death to the oligarchs," is it a bad slogan? "Death to the bourgeoisie" when it did not work badly

            The slogan is good, for the crowd like candy. But there is still a reason to send some to the scaffold. With us, and not in Armenia. hi
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 April 26 2018 20: 56
            +1
            Vasya Pupkin is a clever person who created grammar for the illiterate even before the 1917 revolution and only laugh at him at a perplexity with a cap on his cap.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 April 27 2018 06: 47
              +1
              Quote: Mih1974
              only "with a crinkle from a cap" laugh at him at a loss.

              Those. all "with a crinkle from a cap" are simply pathological idiots? Did I understand you correctly?
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 April 26 2018 10: 22
        +9
        Quote: Serg65
        Yurich, did you somehow admire the Armenian opposition

        Quote: Serg65
        Give Armenia, death to the oligarchs!

        This is the second time you recall Armenia under an article on the Crimea. Why are you spamming? What does Armenia have to do with it?
        Quote: Serg65
        Some kind of analyst Dervish, whom no one knows, some kind of yachtsman named Alexander, laughing generally Vasya Pupkin against !!!!

        And how does this detract from what was said:
        But what I saw on the Yalta forum is very different from everything described. Firstly, there were no people who needed to meet. There are officials who do not have any ideas. There are "wedding generals" who were invited for the status of the event. What would one yachtsman talk about with one officer or with one “wedding general” who do not decide anything? He can only clap loudly in general sessions and eat hard.
        or
        “This is nonsense - to talk about sanctions on the territory of Sberbank, which, due to fear of sanctions, is afraid to open branches in the Crimea!”

        Can you at least object to the case?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 April 26 2018 12: 04
          +3
          Quote: Stas157
          Why are you spamming?

          I do not spam! Just yesterday, members of your sect shouted cheers and threw caps over the resignation of Sargsyan, where did the Armenian Maidan begin?
          Quote: Stas157
          And how does this detract from what was said

          Yes, very easy! I was also on this forum, firstly there were many people with whom you need to meet!
          Quote: Stas157
          There are officials who do not have any ideas. There are "wedding generals" who were invited for the status of the event. What would one yachtsman talk about with one officer or with one “wedding general” who do not decide anything? He can only clap loudly in general sessions and eat hard.

          And this is the PR of your sect and more! There is nothing to do with reality wink

          Quote: Stas157
          “This is nonsense - to talk about sanctions on the territory of Sberbank, which, due to fear of sanctions, is afraid to open branches in the Crimea!”

          Sberbank has a lot of subsidiaries abroad and if for the sake of you and your sect Sberbank enters the Crimea and, under sanctions, loses a huge amount of PUBLIC money, except Sberbank, there are no other banks in Russia?
          Quote: Stas157
          Can you at least object to the case?

          On business??? belay Where did you see the thing? Do you consider the article in the style of "ala, ouly drive the geese" a deed? I envy you if, apart from this nonsense, you have no business — you are lucky! fellow
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 26 2018 13: 01
            +7
            Quote: Serg65
            where did the Armenian Maidan begin?

            Armenia again ?! You did not confuse articles, again? You at least bring the connection between the Crimea and Armenia, if this is so dear to you this topic. I personally did not follow the events in Armenia, because of what I did not know what happened there. But, if there people rose because of the dominance of the oligarchs, then this is primarily a call for our oligarchic government.
            Quote: Serg65
            And this is the PR of your sect and more! There is nothing to do with reality

            Quote: Serg65
            On business??? belay Where did you see the thing here? Do you consider the article in the style of "ala, ouly drive geese" a deed?

            Strong argument!
            Quote: Serg65
            except Sberbank, there are no other banks in Russia?

            So also, mobile operators do not go to Crimea, and chain stores ... Big business bypasses Crimea! Tell me why we attached it?
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 April 26 2018 18: 08
              +2
              Quote: Stas157
              So also, mobile operators do not go to Crimea, and chain stores ... Big business bypasses Crimea! Tell me why we attached it?

              belay You also think that Crimea was attached only to expand the Sberbank market. Magnet and Auchan?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 26 2018 18: 13
                +2
                Quote: Serg65
                You also think that Crimea was attached only to expand the Sberbank market. Magnet and Auchan?

                Essss !! good
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 April 26 2018 18: 17
                  +2
                  hi Roma is healthy! drinks
                  You can find out such interesting things at VO, it’s breathtaking! bully
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 26 2018 20: 26
                    +1
                    Quote: Serg65
                    You can find out such interesting things on VO, it’s breathtaking

                    The phrase ... is correct. Fragranit! laughing
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 April 27 2018 06: 28
                +4
                Quote: Serg65

                belay You also think that Crimea was attached only to expand the Sberbank market. Magnet and Auchan?

                And you obviously think that Crimea should be at the level of Abkhazia or Transnistria, which big business also avoids!
    2. Alex66
      Alex66 April 26 2018 08: 16
      +8
      Yes, it’s so good that the Western elite and our elite have not yet agreed, but sooner or later they will. When the spheres are divided, there will be no need to let people into the gas, they will immediately forget patriotism, family values, import substitution. All this is just words for the bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie came to power with only one goal - personal enrichment, consolidation of their position and their inheritance, do not build illusions the bourgeois will not heal you, teach, or retire you.
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 26 2018 12: 18
        +1
        Quote: Alex66
        All this is just words for the bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie came to power for only one purpose - personal enrichment, consolidation of their position and their inheritance,

        I understand that you do not go to work for personal enrichment, but for the sake of Peace in the whole World?
        What is wrong with personal enrichment, because it is MONEY that allows you to entertain and learn the world, allow you to do what you love, and even allow you to do charity work. Have you helped many poor people on your squeezed couch ????
        1. VVK_VDB
          VVK_VDB April 26 2018 21: 55
          0
          There is nothing wrong with personal enrichment, the main thing is not to confuse personal wool with the state.
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 26 2018 06: 42
    +10
    About the "wedding generals" it is clear - PR, "development" and "flashbob" ... But here, who is "planning" these "Potemkin forums" is not clear. Even Russian corporations do not invest in Crimea. .... This is the "gray zone" in international law and the growth of pro-NATO structures at the borders. ...
  6. Maverick1812
    Maverick1812 April 26 2018 06: 47
    +11
    Oil painting .... Great Pu, may the sun and food send us!
    And where are the comments of 70% of the population, by the way ?!
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 26 2018 07: 02
      +9
      Quote: Maverick1812
      Oil painting .... Great Pu, may the sun and food send us!
      And where are the comments of 70% of the population, by the way ?!

      They are all waiting for changes and a new government, and then everything will spin.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 April 26 2018 07: 26
      +3
      Quote: Maverick1812
      And where are the comments of 70% of the population, by the way ?!

      laughing Rusinov and comments Crimeans, two incompatible things! wink
    3. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 26 2018 12: 19
      +6
      Quote: Maverick1812
      Oil painting .... Great Pu, may the sun and food send us!

      Yes, except Pu, no one will protect us from the West, we owe him life and everything that we have, otherwise Maidan, poverty and death. It is obvious!!!!!
      1. Ivan58
        Ivan58 April 26 2018 12: 41
        +6
        Yes, Putin's success is evident: okay, the Baltic states. Ukraine is about .... al, Georgia too, Kazakhstan is falling off, Armenia seems to be the same, there are continuous confusions with Belarus, Americans, they wipe their feet as they like. It’s sickening to talk about internal absurdity,
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 April 26 2018 17: 26
          0
          Quote: Ivan58
          Americans, feet as they want and wipe. It’s sickening to talk about internal absurdity,

          This is someone else who wipes his feet, everywhere they have broken !!!
          1. Ivan58
            Ivan58 April 26 2018 20: 16
            +2
            Yes oblomali, today in Seattle, before that at the Olympics.
            1. Semen1972
              Semen1972 April 27 2018 09: 22
              0
              Quote: Ivan58
              Yes oblomali, today in Seattle, before that at the Olympics.

              Do not tell who this Seattle surrendered to? At the Olympics, we are the champions in hockey, the rest is drummed. Bent them. And in Syria, they rounded off to the full, broke off the plan to overthrow Assad.
              Do not be petty, see the big picture .. Seattle ... PPC. We also closed them.
              1. Ivan58
                Ivan58 April 28 2018 22: 02
                0
                Actually, I meant athletes from Russia.
        2. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 27 2018 07: 45
          0
          Putin was certainly better, right? "They didn’t wipe their feet," etc.?
    4. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 April 26 2018 12: 29
      +3
      Maverick1812
      Oil painting .... Great Pu, may the sun and food send us!
      And where are the comments of 70% of the population, by the way ?!

      lis-ik
      They are all waiting for changes and a new government, and then everything will spin.
      Have you written provocative crap and are waiting for a reaction?
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 April 26 2018 17: 40
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Have you written provocative crap and are waiting for a reaction?

        Exactly. Maybe it’s time to register such gn ... uh ... "partners"?
  7. Amateur
    Amateur April 26 2018 07: 13
    +11
    Is it Topwar or Peacemaker?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 26 2018 16: 22
      0
      What to do? The State Department increased the financing of hamsters, svidomye again. Not autobiographies, certified in the personnel department, require. lol
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 26 2018 07: 47
    +15
    Very sorry that the president is not in the know. However, I am not included in those 77% who voted to continue such forums.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 26 2018 11: 00
      +11
      Quote: Gardamir
      However, I am not included in those 77% who voted to continue such forums.
      I'm still trying in vain from my extensive circle of acquaintances to find at least one person out of these 77%. lol Something is wrong here.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 April 26 2018 12: 31
        +7
        Something is wrong here.
        Something is wrong with your circle of friends.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 26 2018 13: 03
          +4
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Something is wrong with your circle of friends.
          Truth??? I do not think so.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 26 2018 13: 19
            +1
            Quote: Greenwood
            I do not think so

            “So” in your phrase is superfluous, IMHO. Replace with "general" yes
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood April 26 2018 15: 56
              +6
              This is written to me by a person in whom all messages consist entirely of antics and unreasonable jokes, without a hint of an attempt to argue his position, and, of course, by continuous transitions to personalities. So to ignore Golovan, to ignore. In the future, I will ignore your messages. With trolls, you can’t do otherwise.
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              IMHO
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner April 26 2018 16: 23
            +1
            Looks like you were generally advised not to think.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik April 26 2018 08: 24
    +17
    The government is such people who take our money, leave some for themselves, and for the rest they create problems for us.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 26 2018 11: 20
      +8
      Yes, yes, Alex! They take the bigger and better part of our money!
      But can our problems compare with theirs? They do not see ours at point blank range, so-so, problems. But they have .......
      1. parusnik
        parusnik April 26 2018 11: 28
        +9
        I live in Kerch, sometimes you climb Mount Mithridates, a beautiful view of the Kerch Bay, cranes in the ports and ferry boats that don’t work .. It’s not clear whether the patient is alive or dead .. And the results of the forum .. obviously the revitalization of the ports on Kerch the peninsula will not contribute ..
        1. shans2
          shans2 April 27 2018 00: 11
          0
          you obviously do not live in Kerch, but in Ukraine, it’s enough to see the cargo turnover of the Kerch port and how much it has grown, including due to the construction of the Kerch bridge. The numbers are easy to see on the web page of this port, and cry over the poor numbers of the same port 5 years ago ... by the way, it also grew due to the prohibition of transshipment into the sea from ships to each other, ...
        2. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 27 2018 07: 50
          +1
          And the Kerch "Bay" does not work, and the port is dead, and there is no traffic in Kerch? Nothing changed? Although it is from Rivne probably more visible.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik April 27 2018 08: 07
            +5
            In my opinion ... I didn’t drop in on neighbors, we ship metal when gravel and sand are used. The main income is port charges, and they pay quite badly. There is no money for repairing docks, for dredging, too .. KEK needs to be brought to the required depths It’s on our conscience, there is no funding and incomes do not allow such large-scale work to be carried outAnd those berths that are leased, the income of the Crimean Ministry of Property receives 70%, our pathetic 30% ... and that’s such money that it’s enough to make three pages of the GTS repair project .. Moreover, this alignment has been established since the time of Ukraine, and the concluded special stages to these agreements have not changed in the new period, the situation has remained the same. But from your words, everything is fine in the ILC .. Income is growing, transshipment is growing .... you know better You probably write from Kerch .... work on the "Gulf"? .. But I don’t ... I'm writing from Rivne ..... You are even sure of that ..
            1. konstantin68
              konstantin68 April 27 2018 09: 53
              0
              Quote: parusnik
              You are even sure of that.

              Quote: konstantin68
              probably more visible.

              Quote: parusnik
              .on the "Gulf" work?

              No, but I’ve been occasionally (especially recently)
              Quote: parusnik
              The income of the Ministry of Property of Crimea receives-70%

              Is there funding from the federal budget?
              Quote: parusnik
              But from your words, everything is fine in the ILC

              Again, I did not say that excellent. In fact, real changes began in the spring of 2017. But! Everything is relative! And if you compare the situation for 2012. with the present, positive dynamics are evident. Regarding the forum, my opinion is outlined below. Sincerely.
              1. parusnik
                parusnik April 27 2018 12: 05
                +4
                konstantin68
                Although it is probably more visible from Rivne
                .
                ... Glue labels .. Without knowing the situation, the word "probably" means: what if not from Exactly? .. laughing When you visit the Gulf from time to time ... Federal funding goes only to target objects and projects .. and the Kerch seaport is included in the structure of the State Unitary Enterprise of the Republic of Kazakhstan "Sea Ports of Crimea" as a branch, which by the way does not include the "Gulf" ...
    2. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 27 2018 13: 42
      0
      Here you would be in power .. the people will reach for you, say the right things .. Here you would cut off Mother Russia !!!
  10. Loess
    Loess April 26 2018 09: 01
    +3
    Is this the analytics section?
  11. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 26 2018 09: 03
    +3
    Well, the meaning of this panopticon to discuss?
  12. chechuev
    chechuev April 26 2018 09: 42
    +2
    Yes, near Bakhchisarai, there are a lot of unfinished objects, with access roads where until now the "horse was not lying", and the facade was tidied up in the city itself, there are no roads in the depths, garbage is not taken out, the picture is sad.
  13. chechuev
    chechuev April 26 2018 09: 50
    +5
    And about "going to sea" on a yacht (not abroad) - during the union, the application had to be submitted within a week, on the day of departure - a mandatory visit to the border guards, checking the "ship's role". Probably nothing has changed since then.
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU April 30 2018 11: 25
      0
      From 2018 - two hours before the release, well, upon return, by mobile or PCT.
  14. uskrabut
    uskrabut April 26 2018 09: 53
    +12
    All of these pseudo-economic forums are just a waste of budget money. To establish normal salaries, scholarships and pensions for Russian citizens - this is "no money, but you hold on!" Just like a drunken bureaucratic-oligarchic riffraff - so please. But a citizen will spend his salary here in Russia, this will start a cash flow, and for a year each ruble paid to a Russian will be able to create a value equal to at least two rubles. Budget money spent on pseudo-economic forums will not return to the economy and will not create anything. And where, if not such forums, you can show off the wealth stolen in Russia.
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 April 27 2018 07: 53
      +2
      All these forums are our pathological desire to be like the West. We take, as always, the worst. IMHO.
  15. free
    free April 26 2018 09: 59
    +10
    What a pop such is the coming!
  16. Altona
    Altona April 26 2018 10: 37
    +6
    Quote: uskrabut
    All of these pseudo-economic forums are just a waste of budget money.

    ---------------------------------
    Not a single forum gave any interesting program. Some forums are even called "Gaidar" to show exactly what these events are about.
  17. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy April 26 2018 11: 10
    +9
    Here it is a striking result of the modernization of the industry of capitalist Russia. The elephant gave birth to a mouse, or rather a goat, but for that "gold"! lol
  18. Imobile
    Imobile April 26 2018 11: 41
    +2
    Quote: Sovetskiy
    Here it is a striking result of the modernization of the industry of capitalist Russia. The elephant gave birth to a mouse, or rather a goat, but for that "gold"! lol


    Everything is very sad. There are less than 1 percent of liberals in Russia; they are not in power at all. The authorities are trying to control the Soviet KGB methods. The main task is to get more and leave, they are not going to live here. Who of the FSB can’t get it, they are trying to betray to the West more profitably. And this whole circus is called liberalism. Even I am not a liberal, the age is not the same, although I understand that a country will develop only if there are 60% of real liberals in the country and all power is liberal
  19. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 26 2018 13: 16
    +1
    Quote: Imobile
    Quote: Sovetskiy
    Here it is a striking result of the modernization of the industry of capitalist Russia. The elephant gave birth to a mouse, or rather a goat, but for that "gold"! lol


    Everything is very sad. There are less than 1 percent of liberals in Russia; they are not in power at all. The authorities are trying to control the Soviet KGB methods. The main task is to get more and leave, they are not going to live here. Who of the FSB can’t get it, they are trying to betray to the West more profitably. And this whole circus is called liberalism. Even I am not a liberal, the age is not the same, although I understand that a country will develop only if there are 60% of real liberals in the country and all power is liberal

    In this country of liberals, in the proportion you expect, it will never be close.
    But nobody binds your hands.
    Educate real liberals.
  20. Lyubov Tsyganova
    Lyubov Tsyganova April 26 2018 13: 44
    +1
    Christmas trees are green! When do you all work here?
  21. Curious
    Curious April 26 2018 15: 15
    +2
    I still do not understand, an article about zrad or about help? And where did the diluted gasoline come from in Crimea?
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 April 27 2018 07: 54
      +2
      Where from? Kadyrov dilutes and is lucky here (one of the versions).
      1. Curious
        Curious April 27 2018 11: 33
        0
        Meaning? Not profitable. It is necessary to dilute on the spot.
        1. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 27 2018 19: 20
          +1
          That's the joke, I personally just heard such a conclusion. Bullshit of course.
  22. brdm
    brdm April 26 2018 18: 04
    +1
    "These forums are an attempt to prolong the reanimation of those institutions that have died, are incapable and which could be honorably buried. Such forums can be compared to films about zombies: staggering, staggering, maybe even hungry in crowds, but "they no longer have goals or the ability to manage their own lives, much less manage the country around them." Here it is at a dot !!!))) It looks that way. But So no)) yes
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  24. Raphael_83
    Raphael_83 April 26 2018 18: 59
    +2
    Vaistenu! fellow I, from old memory, thought that the “marinas” only work in banks, and here it’s what ... And the men don’t know! wassat
    Seriously, over the past five years I have been able to attend several “forums”, I can definitely say that only journalists (and this is understandable) and local support services (economy, security, administration, transportation, etc.) worked seriously at these events. ), the key defendants and business miserables, like your humble servant, do not need your help there: for the former are there for an unrestrained star (mostly of a propaganda nature), who will then be shown / written by the very working journalists, and the latter stupidly serve their number .. Otherwise, I simply can’t name this bacchanalia (all domestic economic forums, and not this particular one!) As a "fair of vanity, empty talk and squandering" ... sad
    From SW. hi
  25. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 26 2018 20: 07
    0
    Muddy article. Why the opinion of one participant and no other opinions. Why is Crimea Ukrainian, after all, it has not been there for 4 years, and for the simple reason it was not once.
  26. BAI
    BAI April 26 2018 20: 29
    +1
    An example of unsystematicity: a project by A. Lebedev studio

    Well, if Lebedev was noted there, everything is a show without a result.
  27. Radikal
    Radikal April 26 2018 21: 51
    0
    Quote: Alex66
    Yes, it’s so good that the Western elite and our elite have not yet agreed, but sooner or later they will. When the spheres are divided, there will be no need to let people into the gas, they will immediately forget patriotism, family values, import substitution. All this is just words for the bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie came to power with only one goal - personal enrichment, consolidation of their position and their inheritance, do not build illusions the bourgeois will not heal you, teach, or retire you.

    yes good hi
  28. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint April 27 2018 02: 39
    0
    what a fabulous idiocy ... these forums are now held generally for other purposes. all contracts and investments are not even the fifth item in the plans. whoever writes the article couldn’t understand this ... stupid stuffing
  29. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint April 27 2018 02: 42
    0
    Sberbank is a nightmare ... well, they won’t open their offices now. this cannot be done in such a situation. that would be stupidity and sabotage.
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  31. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 April 27 2018 09: 26
    0
    where the hell is the president looking ????
  32. Normal ok
    Normal ok April 27 2018 21: 33
    0
    Andrei Nazarov, co-chairman of the organizing committee of the forum, solemnly concluded that international interest in the Yalta forum is growing higher than in the world forum in Davos, Switzerland.

    That bent it lol
  33. Stils
    Stils April 29 2018 08: 10
    0
    Funny article fellow
  34. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim April 29 2018 22: 45
    0
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    while such "economists" in power, Russia will "tie the shoelaces" ...

    Drive them with a filthy broom!
    The bloodsuckers were recovered:
    "40% of Russian citizens have an income below $ 10 per day!"

    They do everything to destroy the population, they accurately follow the instructions of the Washington Regional Committee and the World Bank.
    "Mr Medvedev also recalled that the current retirement age in Russia was set in the 1930s, when life expectancy was about 40 years. Since then, the situation has changed, and (quote)" this gives the necessary reasons for to return to this issue and make certain decisions, "the prime minister said."