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The stockpiles of missiles to the Syrian C-200 SAMs are rapidly decreasing

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S-200 anti-aircraft systems are regularly used to repel Israeli raids aviation, with such heavy use, the stockpiles of missiles for these air defense systems will soon be reduced to zero, writes Messenger of Mordovia with reference to military expert Yuri Lyamina.


The stockpiles of missiles to the Syrian C-200 SAMs are rapidly decreasing


According to Lyamin, according to open data, 1980 divisions (firing channels) of the C-8VE and 200 of the B-144E missiles were delivered to Syria in 880-s. Since each standard anti-aircraft missile division has 6 launchers, each of them has only three missiles.



“It has been three decades since deliveries, and during this time Syria could well have spent a significant part of the missiles. The C-200 missiles were launched both before the war during the exercise and in recent years on Israeli aircraft, ”he noted.

At the same time, “attacks from outside the airspace of Syria itself forced the Syrian air defense to actively use the only long-range air defense systems that they have - this is C-200BE,” the expert added.

And in the course of repelling the recent American missile strike, among other things, the C-200 missiles were launched. In addition, a certain number of missiles for the C-200 missiles were lost when one of the technical divisions near Damascus was captured in the autumn of 2012. There could be some other unknown losses. It is difficult to say how many missiles Syria currently remains in reserve, at the moment, judging by satellite images, in most positions the C-200BE launchers are deployed with missiles, but if they are further used actively in repelling air raids, the reserves may be exhausted.
told Lyamin.



Therefore, today, the issue of equipping the Syrian air defense with modern anti-aircraft complexes is very relevant. The emergence of new air defense missile systems will allow the Syrians, while exhausting the B-880E missile stocks, not only to preserve the capabilities of the air defense, but also to significantly increase them.
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  1. bogart047
    bogart047 April 24 2018 15: 32
    +13
    it would be nice to throw firewood ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 24 2018 15: 32
      +16
      Quote: bogart047
      it would be nice to throw firewood ...

      only others, hotter type S-300
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 April 24 2018 16: 06
        +5
        Who knows how many threw them when our warehouses were freed ...
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 24 2018 16: 58
          +1
          Quote: Alex777
          Who knows how much they were thrown when our warehouses were freed ..

          Lyamin knows.
          According to Lyamin, according to open data,
          Well, as I understand it ... request
      2. Corporal Pupkin
        Corporal Pupkin April 25 2018 14: 54
        +2
        Those that are "hotter" - 6 ctn.
        BUT alas ...
        "Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons"
        Although...
        If we ourselves will be "behind the arms of the tanks" ...
        Wai NOT? (As they say "they") wink
        Yes, and our S-300 and S-400 in Syria MUST be equipped
        special missiles with nuclear warheads!
        For, the hour is uneven, with a furrow, the whole "pro-western CALITION" will rush for revenge ...
        And, once scared this scum by a couple of nuclear aerial explosions, and ...
        "brought them to the proper sense"!
    2. Thrall
      Thrall April 24 2018 15: 33
      +11
      S-200 sharpened to work on airplanes. Planes on the territory of Syria are trying not to fly. So I don’t see a particular problem.
      1. avt
        avt April 24 2018 16: 08
        +6
        Quote: Thrall
        S-200 sharpened to work on airplanes.

        wassat That sho-o-o-o-o !? Air defense complex, and mainly for high-altitude targets and for airplanes? bully No, well, actually, at the department, we were told to students that it’s possible to flip somewhere horizontally. But when there’s nothing at hand and from fierce hopelessness. But in general, especially taking into account refueling with all the filth of a rocket. And even if there’s not Vega, but Angara, not to mention Dali, then shoot and retire.
        Quote: RASKAT
        Everything goes to the S-300.

        No. The Israelis will not allow, even the old ones, the first modifications to be transferred to the Syrians in the hands of the 300, and deployed under Damascus. Then, according to the characteristics, a sheep is covered like a bull and they will not be allowed to fly, it is really possible to block airfields. And this is a violation of the strategic superiority of Israel, which he will not allow. It will extinguish from the stage of delivery and will not give, because it is not a secret - the Iranians will podsutitsya right there and try to take control. Actually this is not a secret - we agreed with ours - we cover the bases and our staff calculations. Yes, and we Iranians strengthen there especially no joy. Rather, under the sauce, the supplies will try to come to an agreement with the Israelis, not to interfere with Assad, to blow perfumes near the border with Israel and, in principle, thank you for that.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 24 2018 16: 22
          +4
          Quote: avt
          The Israelis will not allow, even the old ones, the first modifications to be transferred to the Syrians in the hands of the 300, and deployed under Damascus.

          If desired, one could crank something like Anadyr, but not in this part of the globe. These damn soyuznichki will sell everything at once, everyone and with giblets, without any intelligence, like the Egyptians in 1967
        2. RASKAT
          RASKAT April 24 2018 16: 24
          +6
          The Israelis will not allow, even the old ones, the first modifications to be transferred to the Syrians in the hands of the 300, and deployed under Damascus.
          And what long-range air defense system do you see for Syria to replace the S-200? There is no alternative. And what Israel wants, Damascus should be all the same to us and in general that too. Let C-300 buy the same from us and sleep peacefully.
          1. avt
            avt April 24 2018 21: 33
            +1
            Quote: RASKAT
            And what long-range air defense system do you see for Syria to replace the S-200?

            On that theater, well, if you don’t go marching on the Gollan-Mom’s mink, when clearing the territory, you can completely equip yourself with Buk, preferably a newer one. Well, you’ll have to spend money on air defense aviation. Actually, it’s completely guaranteed to cover the necessary objects, with echelon rather than focal construction. But this is only possible with FULL control of the territory by the Assad government, and not by the Shiite militia recruited by the IRGC from around the world. Under guerrilla warfare, a sane air defense system is impossible to build. This is the destiny of a state with a centralized administration, to which a trained, regular army submits.
        3. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 24 2018 17: 06
          +3
          Quote: avt

          No. The Israelis will not allow, even the old ones, the first modifications to be transferred to the Syrians in the hands of the 300, and deployed under Damascus. Then, according to the characteristics, a sheep is covered like a bull and they will not be allowed to fly, it is really possible to block airfields. And this is a violation of the strategic superiority of Israel, which he will not allow. It will extinguish from the stage of delivery and will not give, because it is not a secret - the Iranians will podsutitsya right there and try to take control. Actually this is not a secret - we agreed with ours - we cover the bases and our staff calculations. Yes, and we Iranians strengthen there especially no joy. Rather, under the sauce, the supplies will try to come to an agreement with the Israelis, not to interfere with Assad, to blow perfumes near the border with Israel and, in principle, thank you for that.

          Firstly, any stationary target at a distance of 150 km from Ramat haHolan must take into account what Yerevan takes into account ...

          For example, the Vietnamese believe that in accuracy at this distance it is not inferior to the Kyrgyz Republic.

          And secondly, we have half of the airfields in the Negev. The question is what can Syrian air defense be opposed if they take it seriously, and not three or four pairs?

          The alignment of this for 2017 year:
          F-35 - 9 (another 41 ordered);
          F-15I - 25
          F-15A / B / C / D - received 89, but 8 are lost in accidents and disasters, 14 are decommissioned or disassembled for spare parts, 5 will be decommissioned instead of the modernized F-15D, 89- remains (8 + 14 + 5) 62.
          F-16I - received 102, 4 lost in accidents and disasters, left 98.
          F-16C / D - received 135, 4 (at least, rather more) lost in accidents and disasters, left 131.
          In addition, the sale of 12 aircraft in Croatia is possible.
          Thus, we have: 9 + 25 + 62 + 98 + 131 = 325 (actually less, because 4 F-15D has not yet been put into operation, and F-16C / D apparently crashed a little more, not to mention the fact that airplanes spend part of their life on medium and major repairs and modernizations). In total, at least 270 Israeli fighter-bombers of the 4 ++ generation can fully fit into the showdown with Syrian air defense.

          1. avt
            avt April 24 2018 21: 22
            +1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            The question is, what will Syrian air defense be able to oppose if they take it seriously, rather than three or four pairs?

            Azochenway! And what about sin Az ??? Actually
            Quote: avt
            It will extinguish from the delivery stage and will not allow to deploy, because it is no secret - the Iranians will podsutitsya right there and try to take control.

            That in the current situation without EW and air defense means, and all this sane at the level is available only in Khmeimim and Tartus, it is done easily and simply. The Iranians, even an analogue of the S-300, will not be able to deploy it. Well, then why should we fit into your Old Testament analysis in Persians ??? Thank God the Kremlin is not Nykyt Sergeevich, and Nasser, well, hang on the chest of the Hero of the USSR, no. Give the Assad to crush the spirits on the border and everything will be the way. The Arabs have neither the strength nor the means to climb onto the Gollan, even if someone dope in a hookah is smoked - put out quickly. And Assad is more important to deal with hydrocarbon deposits in the East beyond the Euphrates. And this is for a long time and even the fact that Iran looms there, so there is something to take them there - elections in Iraq and they will be cut off with the USs there.
          2. Corporal Pupkin
            Corporal Pupkin April 25 2018 16: 28
            +2
            Syrian air defense, as you imagine it, “naked”, of course, looks “unconvincing” against your falcons armed with new items (and “oldies”) wink from Lockheed Martin, Boeing и General Dynamics.
            However, I note that ...
            Russia has already embarked on the modernization of the Syrian army, and, ALL of its actions are not only the Russian General Staff, but also the military-industrial complex of Russia with all its "modest" scientific and technical resources.
            Certainly, "America is with you!" ,However...
            It’s one thing to SELL the “best weapon” to the whole world, and it’s another thing to collect the wreckage of this “fallen and the best” on earth after it’s NOT AN ACCIDENT meeting with the old Soviet SAM. After the “incident of this”, PROHIBIT Israel from further entering the “miracle of airplanes” into the Syrian air defense zone ... so as not to “injure the psyche” of its forced buyers. wassat
            AT DESIRE (Russia) ...
            Syria can "deal" with ALL of your military airfields
            (and part of the Air Force on duty) without the "participation" of its air defense ... CONVENTIONAL weapons.
            Moreover, your "iron dome" will be threshed "properly and efficiently", BUT ... from the destruction and destruction of your airfield infrastructure and part of the aircraft, DO NOT SAVE!
            And your vaunted “merkavs” will not “answer” without air support, and if they “pull”, then they will “be worse”, because in all tank-dangerous directions, the bearded Iranians will joyfully and impatiently wait for them with the Russian anti-tank systems ...
            By the way, WHY did you record your "carrots" in the "best tanks of the world" ??? Ah, let's have a Russian-Israeli tank marathon this winter in Vorkuta ...! Imagine WHICH "class" you there show on your "carrots" when -45 FROM ! Or, frankly, this summer - in Siberia through the swamps ... I give you my word, that back, we will bring you home ("barefoot") for free on an eroplanwassat
            Russian tanks are operated in all climatic zones on this planet, and your WHERE, except for BV ???
            I would sincerely and aggressively advise the "Israeli leadership"
            do not try to stick your trimmed end "into all Syrian cracks" ...
            Israel will be "very uncomfortable" if the Russians, with the hands of the Syrians and Iranians, organize a COMPLEX MISSILE ATTACK on ...
            Can you imagine how many "secret admirers" among the "powerful (Muslim) of this world" Putin will gain in one fell swoop!? laughing
        4. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 April 24 2018 19: 35
          -1
          All Israeli boron cheese due to Iranians in Syria. Another until the Israelis came up with and will continue to bomb the Iranians in Syria. Russia to allow the bombing of the Iranian allies - it looks like a betrayal and stinks on the whole not only the Middle East world ... The problem is that A. Medvedev with GDP are "Israel’s best friends" (probably based on genes), as B. Natanyahu put it .. .
        5. Corporal Pupkin
          Corporal Pupkin April 25 2018 17: 49
          +1
          Thrall meant that the S-200 does not work well for low-altitude targets such as the Kyrgyz Republic.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 24 2018 16: 35
        +4
        Quote: Thrall
        So I don’t see a particular problem.

        "Herald of Mordovia" .... I will believe Ren-TV with Prokopyev more ....
        “Three decades have passed since deliveries, and during that time Syria could well use up a significant portion of missiles. The S-200 air defense missiles were launched both before the war during the exercises and in recent years on Israeli aircraft, ”said Comrade Lyamin ....

        Highly likely ..... laughing
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        2. sogdy
          sogdy April 25 2018 14: 11
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          "Herald of Mordovia" .... I will believe Ren-TV with Prokopyev more ....

          Somewhere yes.
          And yes, there is a mass verification of projects on agents of influence of Israel. So it’s better not to remember the headquarters of “best friends”, yet it’s time for our hexagonal friends to remember their supply debts ....
      3. Berkut24
        Berkut24 April 24 2018 19: 19
        +1
        Planes on the territory of Syria are trying not to fly.

        Therefore, they try not to fly in because 200 is worth it. By the way, Israel’s recent losses in aviation are from just two hundred.
      4. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 24 2018 20: 48
        0
        But tankers, PP and AWACS fly. And just at the right range and provide attacks.
      5. Bully
        Bully April 24 2018 20: 56
        0
        Quote: Thrall
        S-200 sharpened to work on airplanes. Planes on the territory of Syria are trying not to fly. So I don’t see a particular problem.

        Those. on airplanes that launch missile attacks on Syrian territory from the airspace of another state, is Syria's air defense prohibited? What a terrible logic. If the task is to stop air strikes by Israel on objects in Syria, the Syrian air defense should bring down (if, of course, technical capabilities allow) all the aircraft that deliver air strikes, regardless of what territory they are located. And so that there would be no desire for the European comrades to break preventively air defense, it makes sense to merge the information that all the divisions have specialists from the Russian Federation as instructors. With all the ensuing consequences ...
        1. sogdy
          sogdy April 25 2018 14: 18
          +1
          Quote: Bully
          Those. on airplanes that launch missile attacks on Syrian territory from the airspace of another state, is Syria's air defense prohibited?

          Vashcheta, no one can forbid anyone. The sole issue is counteraction.
      6. brr1
        brr1 April 24 2018 21: 02
        +2
        Well, the problem is that the fewer they remain, the stronger the temptation to fly into the territory
        1. sogdy
          sogdy April 25 2018 14: 20
          0
          Quote: brr1
          Well, the problem is that the fewer they remain,

          And there are less of them? Will sacred knowledge be based on the Messenger of Mordor?
    3. RASKAT
      RASKAT April 24 2018 15: 34
      0
      Everything goes to C-300. They already wanted to supply, but the war did not give, it would be time to deliver, the situation in Syria is getting better and better every day.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 24 2018 15: 42
        +4
        The benefits to the person, they control their area of ​​responsibility and this is already good.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 24 2018 20: 50
        +1
        The only question is the safety of these C300 .... If there is no political will to destroy auxiliary aircraft outside the territory, then their work will be final. The question is how many missiles will be spent on them.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy April 25 2018 14: 27
          +1
          Quote: Zaurbek
          .If there is no political will

          As far as I remember, the question is whether it is possible to repel a second strike from the territory of Israel against already illuminated installations. It will be a direct clash with Israel - and its allies. Obviously, much more than those 100 missiles.
          So the “political will” is to smooth incidents and increase coalition costs.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 25 2018 20: 15
            0
            Agree that air defense is a complex matter and only the S300 / 400 will not solve it. For example, reconnaissance is carried out before each strike, and radar is suppressed upon impact ... but for some reason, targets such as reconnaissance and reconnaissance calmly do their job and are considered to be peaceful aircraft.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy April 26 2018 18: 33
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              but for some reason, goals such as software and reconnaissance calmly do their job and are considered as peaceful aircraft by everyone.

              as long as there is no direct clash there are no enemy aircraft. Or isn’t it?
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek April 27 2018 09: 29
                0
                You're right. But, Israel first quietly conducts reconnaissance along the borders, followed by a strike from the territory of Lebanon. Which enemy planes are here and which are not? And it is on a regular basis.
    4. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 24 2018 15: 53
      +2
      We need to joke and buy around the former USSR and Warsaw Pact countries. I think the S-200, even with the S-300, will come in handy!
      1. Bongo
        Bongo April 24 2018 16: 01
        +5
        Quote: bazzbazz
        It is necessary for the former USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries to shake and buy.

        Workable missiles 5В28 in Russia, even "in storage" is left. Of the CSTO countries, the C-200ВМ in service is only available in Kazakhstan (4 sdn), but even there, due to the lack of standard-quality missiles, combat duty is carried out in an abbreviated form. From 6, the “guns” of the rocket are put on the 3 from strength. In addition, C-200 has always been a very expensive and difficult to operate complex. What is primarily associated with the need to refuel the 8 rocket with toxic liquid fuel and caustic explosive oxidant.

        The current state of the Syrian Arab Republic air defense system
        LAW C-200 in the XXI century
        1. Corporal Pupkin
          Corporal Pupkin April 25 2018 15: 23
          +2
          on 2-3 missiles in the duty division of the C-200A, B, D - STANDARD PRACTICE!
          This is due to the SPECIFICITY of two-stage missiles type 5V21,5V28 @etc.
          Wherein...
          The technical division of the S-200 ZRDN group is in PERMANENT combat duty, with an N-minute readiness to organize "on stream":
          1.The assembly missiles
          2. their refueling -oxidant, combustible, compressed air ...
          3.Check at the AKIPS department
          4. Delivery to the starting position.
          Is it necessary to say that the operating conditions of rockets around the clock located on the database are quite severe, and sometimes extreme, THEREFORE ...
          perform their regular "rotation" to ensure "uniform wear" wink For Cheno:
          Remove "on duty" N- a day of rockets from the Pushek, taken to the TDN, where fuel and oxidizer are “drained” from them, washed the tanks — neutralizing their internal surfaces, letting off “steam” \ air from the cylinder VD, disassemble and store ...
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 2 May 2018 06: 15
            +2
            Quote: Corporal Pupkin
            on 2-3 missiles in the duty division of the C-200A, B, D - STANDARD PRACTICE!

            Come on, fairy tales do not tell. No. During Soviet times, all the "guns" of the duty division always had ready-to-launch missiles, and at least one more rocket on "trolleys". The practice of carrying a database with an abbreviated composition of the means of destruction is a strictly forced measure.
            1. Egg
              Egg 26 September 2018 07: 21
              -1
              Quote: Bongo
              C'mon, don't tell tales

              Pupkin is absolutely right. the sequence of actions is a little confused, but in general everything is correct wink
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 26 September 2018 13: 19
                +1
                Quote: Telur
                Pupkin is absolutely right. the sequence of actions is a little confused, but in general everything is correct

                Where and when in the USSR did C-200 carry a database without missiles at guns?
    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 19
      0
      Do you have a supply of wood on the S-200 in the wood warehouses? That is the question. The complex is essentially antique.
    6. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 06
      0
      Yes, they have already taken the S-300! It remains to teach the Syrians to use.
  2. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 24 2018 15: 48
    +6
    For this reason, probably, a fuss about
    C-300 in Syria. Ended missiles to the C-200. Recently they
    the last ones blurted out into white light. Maybe on purpose
    (not as stupid guys as it seemed) to
    get new systems?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina April 24 2018 16: 05
      +7
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Ended missiles to the S-200. Recently they
      blurted out the last light.
      Alexei, did you come up with this yourself or did you receive an operational report from the General Staff of Syria?
      1. Strips
        Strips April 24 2018 16: 57
        +3
        Unfortunately, the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of Russia promised to provide evidence, but apparently forgot ...
        But satellite images of destroyed buildings, a video of air defense missile launches after the attack, etc. are enough.

        More than 20 missiles were fired on an Israeli plane and somehow hit.

        Even if you shoot cannons at sparrows, there is a chance that a sparrow will be killed accidentally. wink.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 24
          +3
          Video intercepts are available in the open. Yes, and the bourgeois media doubted the victory of the Pentagon. So do not cast a shadow on the wattle fence. There is enough evidence that laid down pin-dos. Not enough add so. winked
        2. NG inform
          NG inform April 24 2018 19: 42
          0
          There is enough video with missiles being shot down.
    2. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 10
      0
      Which one will fly there? Israel will throw off over its territory, and it will be. And if a plane is shot down over Israeli territory, then it will be bad. This "bite" is provocative.
  3. Zubr
    Zubr April 24 2018 15: 49
    +2
    Hmm, it's time for the old man to retire, and convert their positions under C-300. I hope this will not take so long. but if you put C-300, then they immediately need "Shell-S" in cover.
    1. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 13
      +1
      Well yes. If they are again winged bullets, the Shell will receive target designation from the s-300 radar
  4. Franz Josef Land
    Franz Josef Land April 24 2018 15: 54
    +3
    If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.
    1. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 24 2018 15: 56
      +12
      Not afraid of a retaliatory strike?
      1. brr1
        brr1 April 24 2018 21: 05
        +6
        Why should he be afraid? He has an armored sofa with a PAZ and FNU system
    2. sabakina
      sabakina April 24 2018 16: 11
      +9
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

      Che then someone from the basement grunted ....
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco April 24 2018 16: 15
        +10
        Quote: sabakina
        Che then someone from the basement grunted ....

        I didn’t grumble and farted into the water, read his comments in the profile, the child’s work is such a nonsense)))))))))))))
    3. Andy
      Andy April 24 2018 16: 19
      +7
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.


      look, the victim of the Holocaust, no matter how it came around.
      1. SOF
        SOF April 24 2018 17: 00
        +5
        Quote: Andy
        look, Holocaust victim, no matter how

        ... you are mistaken laughing is the VICTIM OF MAYDOWN wassat
        tinted by a hexagon.
        In the serpentarium of planet Earth, there are such ....
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    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 24 2018 16: 42
      +4
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

      Surely the client of chamber number 6 from Franz Josef Land laughing Well try poor fellow bomb soldier To school dvoechnik and urgently.
    6. PROXOR
      PROXOR April 24 2018 16: 55
      +5
      And then the Caliber will knock on your door at the gate! Drive you into the stone age. Kasher. Calm down !!! You live in debt. As soon as the stripes turn away from you, nothing will save you. And there will be a second Holocaust for you!
      1. dahpaz
        dahpaz April 25 2018 07: 54
        0
        Quote: PROXOR
        And then the Caliber will knock on your door at the gate! Drive you into the stone age. Kasher. Calm down !!! You live in debt. As soon as the stripes turn away from you, nothing will save you. And there will be a second Holocaust for you!


        Hmm ... the troll under the Israeli flag is nonsense about hitting the himeim and Tartus ... I myself reacted to the emotions ... although such ... Moshniki are not worth it.
        But in order to call for a second Holocaust ... that is, to poison children of women and old people with gases ... to burn alive ... and TD ... and now it seems that such a “man” is no better than that “warlike” troll whose In childhood, apparently often beaten and offended ...
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR April 25 2018 13: 54
          +3
          Boiling up. They were saved, warmed, fed, they gave land, and in response they warmed a snake on their chest.
        2. sogdy
          sogdy April 25 2018 14: 47
          +1
          Let me remind our six-sided friends that the propaganda of the Holocaust on the territory of the Russian Federation is not welcome, from the word AT ALL.
          And yes, all the "internationally self-known" Holocaust data are recognized by us as false and tendentious.
          I hope the victims of brainwashing and trading with orthodox Nazis is this clear?
          The materials of the Turkish conference and the materials of the antifa (of the same Red Brigades) are online. The only truly affected party is recognized ONLY by the Soviet Union. From the Japanese side (Manzhou Guo) - the Soviet Union, China and Korea. Neither Israel nor Jews are among the victims.
    7. Zubr
      Zubr April 24 2018 17: 13
      +3
      And immediately order a requiem, for those who will strike .. hi
    8. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 25
      +3
      To try to strike and obroz ..., miles sorry, to get along you wanted to say? : hi
    9. Bully
      Bully April 24 2018 21: 06
      +1
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

      Son, this will be the last day in your life and in the life of the kingdom of Israel, and your land will take about the same form as at the beginning of the Old Testament events
    10. dahpaz
      dahpaz April 25 2018 07: 12
      +1
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.


      A fluffy troll ... or just a mentally retarded "person" ... like you need to drown at birth ...
      1. sogdy
        sogdy April 25 2018 15: 01
        0
        Quote: Dahpaz
        Fluffy troll ... or just a mentally retarded "man"

        This is not a troll, this is a seasoned goblin. He carefully chooses where to beat.
        I guess your American friend.
    11. 22 dmdc
      22 dmdc April 25 2018 14: 14
      0
      Already late! Two days as the BDK loaded. Now send Berlagu.
    12. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 14
      +1
      They have already brought everything there.
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    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 24 2018 16: 01
      +24
      Quote: Franz Josef Land
      But in Russia itself there is not even medicine, only oak bark. sorry for you.

      You will not believe, not only there is no medicine, but there is nothing to devour, which our authorities have brought, today we stood in line for hedgehogs, fought, then went to the pharmacy, so there was also a fight, for chamomile flowers, and motherwort tincture, by the way I recommend it to you, RELAX.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon April 24 2018 16: 14
        +21
        Yes, not only nothing to eat, but also
        1. rrrd
          rrrd April 24 2018 16: 25
          +3
          The topic of priests is revealed! why did I go to this thread. looked at the photo and wanted to go to the girl !!!
          1. Shahno
            Shahno April 24 2018 17: 04
            +1
            Yes, and I, too, wanted to do business ... Now I have to go on a date ....
            1. 22 dmdc
              22 dmdc April 25 2018 14: 17
              0
              Do not forget the kosher sheet with a hole ...
          2. misti1973
            misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 16
            0
            To this or what? I think they were found there.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 24 2018 17: 17
          +2
          Quote: Galleon
          Yes, not only nothing to eat, but also ...

          You can’t do that. There is still an entertaining forum, and you turned arrows on such a serious topic. winked
      2. rrrd
        rrrd April 24 2018 16: 29
        +1
        Forgot to mention still on the coupons the goods are coming!)
        1. SOF
          SOF April 24 2018 17: 04
          +2
          Quote: rrrd
          Forgot to mention still on the coupons the goods are coming!)

          ... have you received internet coupons for a long time? They say that now no more than two hands give .... belay belay belay
    2. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 24 2018 16: 09
      +5
      Well, do not you know how to be friends with terrorists! Masters)
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 30
        0
        Probably forgot that with a isil, you. Although not eligible, the boss ordered.
    3. rrrd
      rrrd April 24 2018 16: 27
      +2
      How liberal are you for ... it! Already the fifth year according to Obama's prophecy, we are eating rotten onions! I remember his speech very well !!!
    4. Andy
      Andy April 24 2018 16: 28
      +8
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      Russia, like the USSR, traditionally supports terrorists. But in Russia itself there is not even medicine, only oak bark. sorry for you. Life is short and one must enjoy life and not ridicule with Islam, which will punish you later.

      complex small penis multiplied by unsuccessful circumcision? it’s funny to hear about terrorists from those who are stealthily bombing another country and roofing the igil
    5. avt
      avt April 24 2018 16: 50
      +5
      Quote: Franz Josef Land
      But in Russia itself there is not even medicine, only oak bark.

      Azochenway! And still the Internet on coupons! I’ll go with grief drinking a glass mine; there are no coupons or cheeks on the hawthorn.
      Quote: Franz Josef Land
      Life is short and you have to enjoy life

      Oh wow! But first, show yourself to a profile psychiatrist in Israel, because we have only
      Quote: Franz Josef Land
      not even medicine, oak bark only.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 24 2018 17: 12
        +3
        Quote: avt
        And still the Internet on coupons! I’ll go with grief drinking a glass mine; there are no coupons or cheeks on the hawthorn.

        Lucky... crying
        I have to stop KamAZ, what would I use to kick out of the exhaust pipe .... wassat
    6. PROXOR
      PROXOR April 24 2018 16: 57
      0
      Lighthouse admin. Expect BAN!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi April 24 2018 17: 18
        +3
        Quote: PROXOR
        Lighthouse admin. Expect BAN!

        Scared Rabinovich ban. laughing
    7. muhomor
      muhomor April 24 2018 21: 07
      0
      Well, you surely only from the Maidan.
  6. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 24 2018 15: 59
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    For this reason, probably, a fuss about
    C-300 in Syria. Ended missiles to the C-200. Recently they
    the last ones blurted out into white light. Maybe on purpose
    (not as stupid guys as it seemed) to
    get new systems?

    And it was established by which complex the F16 was shot down?
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 24 2018 16: 03
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      And it was established by which complex the F16 was shot down?

      The bird got into the air intake !!!
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR April 24 2018 16: 58
        0
        Special !!! SYRIAN))))
      2. SOF
        SOF April 24 2018 17: 09
        +2
        Quote: Sirocco
        The bird got into the air intake !!!

        .... no! ... S-XXX "Bird" SAM was used according to FU35 ... do not confuse!
      3. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 33
        0
        And unfortunately this bird was not kosher. winked
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 24 2018 16: 43
      +2
      Sure. It is the S-200. They launched either 3 or 4 missiles in two F16.
      One shot down a plane (at a height above the territory of Israel),
      two, overshot on the 2nd plane (which
      made a missile defense), flew across Israel across
      and fell into the Mediterranean Sea. With the 4th missile is unclear.
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 24 2018 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Quote: voyaka uh
      For this reason, probably, a fuss about
      C-300 in Syria. Ended missiles to the C-200. Recently they
      the last ones blurted out into white light. Maybe on purpose
      (not as stupid guys as it seemed) to
      get new systems?

      And it was established by which complex the F16 was shot down?

      Well, they didn’t report to us, but there are rumors that Buk.
    4. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 21
      0
      Anyone. He has no EW systems. Only at first I heard that the F-35s were shot down
  7. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 24 2018 16: 01
    +3
    Quote: Franz Joseph Land
    If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

    Peace to your home Dear.
    And the promised land.
    That land is small, it must be protected.
    Well, Russia is not worth touching.
    We are very polite and peaceful people. hi
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 24 2018 16: 29
      +3
      Quote: Livonetc
      That land is small, it must be protected.

      Yes, judging by his nickname, Rabinovich returned - he can do anything. fellow What to do - the child is ...laughing
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 24 2018 19: 34
        0
        And what? Have they started their holidays at school?
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 24 2018 20: 00
          +1
          Quote: Captive
          Have they started their holidays at school?

          In Rabinovich, they did not end. yes
    2. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 09: 23
      0
      There are also not very peaceful and polite. Someone suggested that they do not stand on ceremony and throw nuclear cities in the United States.
  8. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 24 2018 16: 02
    +1
    TEL AVIV, Feb 11 - RIA News. The Israeli military plane that crashed on the eve was struck by fire from the ground, follows from the materials of the army press service.
    At the crash site of an Israeli F-16 fighter participating in a raid on Syria. Archive photo
    It makes no sense to bomb: how Israel will respond to a downed plane
    "Pilots, in accordance with the instructions, left the car and landed in Israeli territory," - said in an infographic material from the press service of the department, published in English on the microblog Twitter.
    During the bailout, the pilot received serious injuries and after the operation is in the Haifa hospital. The navigator suffered less seriously, he is already "on his feet." This was announced by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
    RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/syria/20180211/1514412547.html
    1. rrrd
      rrrd April 24 2018 16: 32
      +1
      Of course, I'm not special! but I think F16 single!
      1. sivuch
        sivuch April 24 2018 16: 57
        +4
        F-16D - Double
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 24 2018 17: 00
          0
          Quote: sivuch
          F-16D - Double

          It is from the word seat or from the word a place?
          lol
          1. sivuch
            sivuch April 24 2018 17: 04
            +1
            Leskov - the tale of the Lefthander
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 24 2018 17: 08
              0
              I respect ...
              N. Leskov is not the most popular writer of the 19th century. 2-th after I. Turgenev by my standards.
      2. gukoyan
        gukoyan April 24 2018 17: 47
        0
        They like the UB version, if I don’t confuse anything ...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 24 2018 16: 52
      +4
      The pilot got burns, he was discharged from the hospital,
      but has not yet returned to flying. The navigator returned to flying.
      In principle, they themselves are to blame, issued a warning
      about an approaching rocket, carried away by targets on earth.
      For which they were reprimanded, all other pilots
      also did a brainwash.
      1. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc April 25 2018 14: 22
        +1
        Syrians with flushing hemorrhoids get better!
  9. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 24 2018 16: 09
    +2
    with reference to military expert Yuri Lyamin


    rockets, shmakety. The main thing is that you study well. The article says that rockets, if they shoot a lot, can end this direct revelation from the revelations.
    When Russia came to the aid of Syria in 2015, the question of restoring the country's air defense came up immediately. There is such a criterion as expediency, but simply the presence in warehouses in Syria and the military industry of Russia or in the stores of ammunition for these complexes.
    Simply, for the sake of several hundred missiles existing in warehouses only in Syria, no one would have restored pointing to inexpediency.
  10. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya April 24 2018 16: 16
    +2
    A robust article in general. Current like S-200 and axes are not very clearly connected, there are more likely the stocks of S-125 missiles coming to an end. But in any case, the missiles should be thrown, purely for every fireman.
  11. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 April 24 2018 16: 24
    +1
    And how does the Messenger of Mordovia know everything from us? Maybe it's time to rename the "Military Messenger of Mordovia"?
  12. skomfit
    skomfit April 24 2018 16: 25
    +8
    Quote: Franz Joseph Land
    If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

    I’ll tell you one instructive story: I had a friend, Kostya Goltsman, here he also shone with his mind where it was necessary and where it was not necessary, and many did not like it, but while I was there he was fine and that’s how he was caught without me by hooligans and they tapped a member on the forehead and everyone but me stopped talking to him, I beat the hooligans, but it didn’t make him feel better — he hung himself. Be careful, not everyone needs to shine with his mind.
  13. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 24 2018 16: 44
    0
    Quote: rrrd
    https://ria.ru/syria/20180211/1514412547.html

    I'm not special either, and you will forgive me.
    I do not know. which option was hit.
    But
    F-16I - a double version of the Block 52 modification, developed by order of the Israeli Air Force
    1. rrrd
      rrrd April 24 2018 19: 10
      0
      Yes, now I saw. I didn’t even know. lol
  14. Strips
    Strips April 24 2018 16: 45
    +1
    According to Lyamin, according to open data, in the 1980s, 8 divisions (shooting channels) S-200VE and 144 V-880E missiles were delivered to Syria to Syria.




    Shelf life of rockets 25-30 years
  15. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 24 2018 16: 50
    +1
    Quote: Franz Joseph Land
    If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

    And we are in response to Tel Aviv and Haifa! am
    1. sivuch
      sivuch April 24 2018 17: 08
      +4
      Haifa is not necessary, Uncle Misha Zeiger lives there (he is Voodoo, aka Spitfire, Breeze, Semyon Semenych). Without it, it will be boring in the air run. Have you agreed?
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich April 24 2018 21: 57
        0
        Well, since Uncle Misha, then don’t! Lighthouse where you need ... Well, there, the mother-in-law of the unloved lives, or a former classmate, harmful. Or else, who do not mind ...
        1. sivuch
          sivuch April 25 2018 08: 21
          +2
          No, my mother-in-law is manual. If only along Bnei Bryk, only penguins live there
  16. Lerych
    Lerych April 24 2018 16: 55
    0
    And what, has the Syrian Republic already begun to threaten Franz Josef Land in the Arctic? Or does anyone else have territorial claims on this island? We ourselves will agree with whom it is necessary. Come, we will settle in that area. We select an island, not large, but cold.
    1. 22 dmdc
      22 dmdc April 25 2018 14: 29
      0
      There on Wrangel Island with. Ushakovskoe is recovering. But pingjaks are still not enough. And before life was in full swing. There was even a collective farm. Do not grow tulips in the open field or something else.
  17. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 24 2018 17: 02
    0
    Quote: Dzafdet
    Quote: Franz Joseph Land
    If there are deliveries, immediately strike at the hheimim and tartus.

    And we are in response to Tel Aviv and Haifa! am

    Explained already.
    This character is a minor.
    And they will not strike at neighboring states.
    Means of attack on Russian military bases will be destroyed on approach.
    1. Andy
      Andy April 24 2018 17: 20
      0
      it’s all so, but ... this individual wants to remind that they beat him not in the passport, but in the face.
      1. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc April 25 2018 14: 30
        0
        IN on the snobel!
    2. misti1973
      misti1973 April 26 2018 10: 39
      0
      You hone the rhetoric here in vain! No one will hit our bases.
  18. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 24 2018 17: 16
    0
    Quote: sivuch
    Haifa is not necessary, Uncle Misha Zeiger lives there (he is Voodoo, aka Spitfire, Breeze, Semyon Semenych). Without it, it will be boring in the air run. Have you agreed?

    Yavol, mon sher ami, then fucking at American bases in Israel. drinks
  19. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 24 2018 17: 45
    +1
    Something the article is not about, and so it is known that the complex, which is 30+ years old, will soon exhaust its supply of missiles ...
    1. Corporal Pupkin
      Corporal Pupkin April 25 2018 17: 42
      +1
      50+ guard the sky!
      S-200A (Angara) was put into service in 1967. soldier
  20. tlauicol
    tlauicol April 24 2018 18: 01
    +2
    I read comments and goof off! nobody swears with the Jews - as at a common table with a beer drinks all banned or what?
    here you can good
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 24 2018 22: 01
      0
      Well, there is no Mikhan, and others like him ... And the rest do not seem to suffer from pathological anti-Semitism ... And from the shores of the Dead Sea, there is no Professor. There’s no scribble ...
  21. Sergerius
    Sergerius April 24 2018 19: 01
    0
    As if everything is clear, but who is Lyamin, a mathematician, an aphorism, what is this note designed for calculations of a sofa analyst
  22. Double major
    Double major April 24 2018 19: 29
    0
    What prevents replenishment?
  23. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 April 24 2018 22: 38
    0
    But you can’t replace it with modern analogs? maybe something is suitable for mounting to the launcher ah?
  24. Old26
    Old26 April 24 2018 23: 15
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar0401
    And how does the Messenger of Mordovia know everything from us? Maybe it's time to rename the "Military Messenger of Mordovia"?

    Come on, hooked to the name. In principle, good notes. not everything can be agreed, but nonetheless. And what is the name of the publication - the "Messenger of Mordovia" or some edition of the "Messenger of the Don Army", or something else - is not so important. The main thing is still the quality of the material, and not where it is published

    Quote: Sergerius
    As if everything is clear, but who is Lyamin,

    Kamrad! You do not know. Who is Lyamin? Well, he is a fairly well-known person on the network.
    Born May 27, 1982 (that is, he is already under the fortieth). Lives in Irkutsk, as far as is known. He maintains his own blog imp_navigator.livejournal.com. EMNIP has been blogging since 2009.
    He graduated from Baikal State University of Economics and Law in Irkutsk (1999 - 2004).

    He writes on military-technical topics. Moreover, all of his publications are accompanied by a large number of photographs. The main directions are the Middle East, the Persian Gulf zone, a lot of information about China and the DPRK. Very high quality technical reviews. For example, his review of the strike on Syrian targets on April 14 is quite short, but informative. Who shot, where, how many missiles. For what purposes, how many missiles for what purpose

    Quote: Twice Major
    What prevents replenishment?

    Probably a complete lack of operational rockets in warehouses in Russia
  25. Alex NEWS
    Alex NEWS April 25 2018 01: 15
    0
    Moreover, the S-300 is needed.
  26. DPN
    DPN April 25 2018 12: 49
    0
    They cannot end while Assad-Syria, Russia and Iran stand.
  27. Old26
    Old26 April 26 2018 09: 36
    +1
    Quote: seregatara1969
    But you can’t replace it with modern analogs? maybe something is suitable for mounting to the launcher ah?

    Well, all modern ones are launched from TPK .. Is it to be fixed? Technically, it is probably possible, although it is not known how suitable the connectors are and so on. But the main thing in the air defense system is not the missile itself, but the radar. But how much this radar can work with other anti-aircraft missiles - HZ. Not a specialist, although IMHO is unlikely.

    Quote: Bully
    Quote: Thrall
    S-200 sharpened to work on airplanes. Planes on the territory of Syria are trying not to fly. So I don’t see a particular problem.

    Those. on airplanes that launch missile attacks on Syrian territory from the airspace of another state, is Syria's air defense prohibited? What a terrible logic. .

    Probably still the Syrians are trying to maintain a state of neutrality towards their neighbors. In this case, Lebanon will get right from two sides. Israeli aircraft violated its airspace, and Syria’s missiles will try to bring them down over this space. Lebanon will be between a rock and a hard place. And given the fact that the Lebanese still remember the Syrian invasion of Lebanon, I think the Syrians are trying not to create situations when Lebanon will also oppose it

    Quote: Bully
    If the task is to stop air strikes by Israel on objects in Syria, the Syrian air defense should bring down (if, of course, technical capabilities allow) all the aircraft that deliver air strikes, regardless of what territory they are located. .

    Well, firstly, if you can do it. You wrote it right if technical capabilities allow. And if not? The S-200 complex is the most long-range that Syria has. range up to 2,5 hundred kilometers. But the minimum height of the defeat is 300 meters. The complexes are stationary and are in two places. One regiment (231st) in the Homs region, EMNIP, the second - 230 - in the Damascus region (more precisely, in the Dumeira region). Israel can choose any of the directions of the strike, shoot from a greater range and go below the minimum height of the defeat of the complex.
    They can bring down over foreign territory, of course, 9 Syrians). Then the neighbors will not be able to do almost anything. But at the same time, the number of enemies of Syria can multiply.
    And when a common enemy appears, even rivals previously irreconcilable can unite against this common enemy. Assad IMHO is trying to avoid confrontation with its neighbors

    Quote: Bully
    And so that there would be no desire for the European comrades to break preventively air defense, it makes sense to merge the information that specialists from the Russian Federation work as instructors at all divisions. With all the ensuing consequences ...

    Do you seriously think that this will stop someone? During the Vietnam War, the Americans knew that at times our specialists were sitting behind the launchers. And what, it stopped the American air raids on North Vietnam?
    so here. Nobody will shoot at the complexes at our bases, but the Syrian will try to destroy at any cost. No matter who is at the controls. After all, you are in Syria under an agreement with Syria to assist it in the fight against terrorist groups located on its territory and waging war against Assad. And therefore, the attitude towards them will be approximately the same as to PMCs or advisers. Since you are part of the Syrian troops, it means that you are not the person for whom the country will stand up, as you would stand for those who are part of these complexes at our bases. As usual with our advisers. They were always part of the military contingents of the country where they were. And if they died, no one fit in for them and did not start a war with those who killed them

    Quote: DPN
    They cannot end while Assad-Syria, Russia and Iran stand.

    S-200 missiles can not end? Elementary. We no longer have them in service and most likely no longer have them in stock either. Iran has a couple of divisions and a number of missiles, but they themselves need to protect their skies. so that can end elementary
  28. Shaska
    Shaska April 29 2018 19: 21
    0
    "Herald of Mordovia" is the most authoritative newsletter place ... As for the "expert", he is already at EXPERDEL for 100500+ megatons ... Stop hailing under-education !!!
    I heard here, as if, like soon, this, well. like ammo run out ...
  29. Santa Claus
    Santa Claus 1 May 2018 00: 42
    +1
    S-300 defensive system, Assad must be run by Iskandera, let some chase after them, they may immediately understand that it’s enough to impudently, the answer will fly by anybody, and these are not hezbols nursics