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Shoigu: Strange ... For years, coalition countries 30 could not cope with ISIS in Syria

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A meeting of the SCO Council of Ministers of Foreign Affairs has started in China today. A meeting of the heads of defense departments of the countries entering the Shanghai Cooperation Organization is also taking place in the PRC. In Beijing, they said that the main task of the organization today is to increase the level of cooperation in the macro-region to ensure security. This task of the SCO was declared by the head of the Ministry of Defense of China, Wei Fenhe.


According to the head of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, it is necessary to focus on building a “single fate” society. Wei Fenhe:
We will demonstrate to the world our solidarity, unity, as well as friendship and cooperation of the SCO.


At the meeting, the floor was taken and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. According to Shoigu, who touched on security issues in the Middle East, the goal of the so-called American coalition in Syria is not to defeat terrorism there.



The statement of the head of the Ministry of Defense of Russia leads RIA News:
They (a coalition led by the United States) are using for their own purposes the forces of international terrorism and extremism. As an example, I will give Iraq and Syria. For a long time, the most powerful coalition grouping of more than thirty militarily advanced states led by the United States could not cope with the militants, and the territories controlled by ISIL (* banned in the Russian Federation) only expanded. Apparently, the goal was different - to loosen the situation in the region, to consolidate in it its military and economic presence.

Recall: in the United States they declare that in the SAR "ISIS * is about to win," but at the same time they add that they are ready to withstand the growth of Iran’s military presence. That is, the reason to stay has already been found. Moreover, French President Macron has already appealed to Trump so that he would not withdraw the American contingent from Syria.
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  1. The black
    The black April 24 2018 08: 35
    +21
    I mean, is it strange? ... If you understand that they created and supported the igil, then nothing is strange at all. Everything is logical smile
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 08: 38
      +2
      And what’s strange, mother’s war is dear to some .. This is Russian, we won’t stand the price, if only there would be no war! That's how we live from war to war .. Oh Russia!
      1. Chertt
        Chertt April 24 2018 08: 57
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        if only there was no war!

        Russia and especially China have repeatedly stated that we will not conclude a military alliance. But such a work of the Ministers of Defense within the SCO framework can fulfill the same functions of containing NATO and maintaining peace (as they say, we chop off the shaggy tentacles of imperialism (s))
        1. siberalt
          siberalt April 24 2018 09: 13
          +1
          What is a military alliance with China? Russia is a non-aligned state. Enough of the fact that we fed the Warsaw Pact. And what did you get? winked
          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 24 2018 09: 16
            0
            Quote: siberalt
            What is a military alliance with China?

            Read it again wink Do not need any unions
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 24 2018 09: 59
              0
              Quote: Chertt
              Do not need any unions
              There is still a need to look ...
              Enough of the fact that we fed the Warsaw Pact. And what did you get? winked
              In this situation, China does not need it soon; there may be many different reasons. If there was a Warsaw Pact and it collapsed, but in fact it was dissolved, it doesn’t mean at all that any more ... The contract is for that and the contract, the main thing is to read the fine print and negotiate ...
          2. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General April 24 2018 14: 34
            +1
            Quote: siberalt
            Russia non-aligned state


            And then the CSTO?))
        2. Terenin
          Terenin April 24 2018 09: 20
          +9
          Quote: Chertt
          Chertt (Alexey) Today, 08: 57 ↑
          Quote: MIKHAN
          if only there was no war!
          Russia and especially China have repeatedly stated that we will not conclude a military alliance. But such a work of the Ministers of Defense within the SCO can fulfill the same functions

          Greetings hi Well, why, Chinese President Xi Jinping, on the 95th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party, openly stated: “We are now observing aggressive actions on the part of the United States, both against Russia and China. I believe that Russia and China can create an alliance before which NATO will be powerless and this will put an end to the imperialist desire of the West. ”
          Source: https://politikus.ru/events/80211-kitay-predlozhi
          l-rossii-sozdat-soyuz-protiv-nato.html
          Politikus.ru
          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 24 2018 09: 30
            +2
            Hello hi A statement by Xi Jinping, most likely for an "outside", overseas audience. The PRC Constitution expressly spells out its non-aligned status. And Russia is not eager to unite our military capabilities too closely. It is more important for Russia and China now, not so much military cooperation (it is developing at a normal pace), as well as the externally political and diplomatic coordination of positions
          2. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 14: 24
            +1
            Quote: Terenin
            Well, why, Chinese President Xi Jinping, on the 95th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party, openly stated: “We are now observing aggressive actions on the part of the United States, both against Russia and China.


            It just makes no sense ...! We are constantly declaring in Russia, and we are spread rot and rot .. he he .. And China is quietly pursuing its policy and waiting for the corpse of the enemy to float along the river (Russia or the USA ..)))
            1. Terenin
              Terenin April 24 2018 21: 37
              +5
              Quote: MIKHAN
              And China is quietly pursuing its policy and waiting

              I already wrote about the Chinese that with a smile they will tear off the head of anyone who gets in their way. By cruelty, no one can compare with them.
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 24 2018 10: 45
          +3
          Quote: Chertt
          Russia and especially China have repeatedly stated that we will not conclude a military alliance.

          They didn’t talk about the alliance, but both China and Russia in unison talk about expanding military cooperation, which can be interpreted as an unspoken alliance. Recently, China reassigned its grouping of warships located in B. Vostok to the Russian command. As I understand it, this means that China is ready to engage in a showdown on the side of Russia if they arise in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea. What is this if not a union?
          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 24 2018 11: 04
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            They didn’t talk about the alliance, but both China and Russia in unison talk about expanding military cooperation

            Yet they understand against whom Russia and China are “cooperating”. There would be no NATO and there was no cooperation. A full-fledged Military Union implies a single geopolitical vision, pictures of the world. I doubt that China has the same as the Russian Federation
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Recently, China reassigned its grouping of warships located in B. Vostok to the Russian command

            ??? I did not find such information. If so, it is really very interesting.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 24 2018 11: 08
              +1
              Quote: Chertt
              ??? I did not find such information. If so, it is really very interesting.

              Right here..
              http://www.iarex.ru
              and here
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTPQdpNggD0
              1. Chertt
                Chertt April 24 2018 11: 17
                0
                No, what are you, this is hardly reliable information. Reassignment of the flotilla of warships is a very serious and extreme measure. Perhaps the United States wanted to reason from the strike on Syria. But as everyone saw, it didn’t work out
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky April 24 2018 12: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Chertt
                  Reassignment of the flotilla of warships is a very serious and extreme measure. Perhaps the United States wanted to reason from the strike on Syria.

                  How to know, how to know? For anyone, such a pitch from China is seriously annoying the United States. request
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 24 2018 11: 16
              +1
              Quote: Chertt
              A full-fledged Military Union implies a single geopolitical vision, pictures of the world. I doubt that China has the same as the Russian Federation

              China understands that if they break Russia, then it will be next. The same thing will happen in the reverse order - if China fails, then Russia will be tight, and therefore, now love is mutual. It is clear that in the long run there are no unions and interests that would last forever, but at this stage the prospect of great friendship for 15-20 years is guaranteed. During this period, Russia and China themselves will hit the hegemon because there are no other options and enduring the "vagaries" of the United States is becoming dangerous and expensive for the whole world.
    2. Vard
      Vard April 24 2018 08: 40
      +1
      This is all clear ... What are they all on the other side ... but that's what this whole company will do when we get the IS out of Syria ... they’ll go home ... then the fun will begin ...
      1. The black
        The black April 24 2018 08: 43
        +1
        Quote: Vard
        but this is what this whole company will do when we get IG out of Syria ...

        Send this pack to make a revolution in the name of "democracy" to another country ....
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich April 24 2018 08: 54
          +5
          Shoigu: Strange ... For years, coalition countries 30 could not cope with ISIS in Syria
          Well, so we will have more experience ...
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 15: 28
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Well, so we will have more experience.

            That's exactly Yuryevich ..!

            So it was and will be in Russia!
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 08: 58
        +2
        Quote: Vard
        but this is what this whole company will do when we get IG out of Syria

        In the USA we’ll send and pay for everything, like a humanitarian corridor across the ocean .. hehe
        Quote: Vard
        then the fun will begin ...

        Not the word daraga .. laughing
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 24 2018 12: 57
        0
        There is also Central Asia, the Caucasus, and many other “partners” can stir up ...
    3. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa April 24 2018 09: 28
      +1
      this sarcasm was, well, it’s clear.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 24 2018 10: 32
        +2
        Sarcasm can be fun, but is it time to call a spade a spade !!!
        And then all sorts of allies are there, partners, but take a closer look at HAZEL AS IS!
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad April 25 2018 02: 55
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          And then all sorts of allies are there, partners, but take a closer look at HAZEL AS IS!

          This policy is called yes
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 25 2018 09: 16
            +3
            Yes, they told us this, they said and still will be! Only as a warrior, do not call it that and will remain!
            Ku - ku!
  2. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 24 2018 08: 35
    +7
    Inaccuracies in translation from English. Do not defeat the igil, but defeat the igil. Hence our misunderstanding. laughing
  3. vorobey
    vorobey April 24 2018 08: 35
    +2
    and here came Russian frosts
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 April 24 2018 08: 39
      +3
      Rather Santas! The igles began to "freeze."
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 24 2018 08: 56
        0
        Quote: Sergey985
        Rather Santas! The igles began to "freeze."

        our Santas, "igil" do not like ....
  4. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 24 2018 08: 40
    0
    the goal was different - to undermine the situation in the region, to consolidate its military and economic presence in it.

    Nominee for the Captain Evidence Award. The water is wet, the sky is blue, the tanks are iron, and the FSA and 30 coalition countries are the creators of ISIS * and opponents of Assad.
    1. Finn67
      Finn67 April 24 2018 08: 48
      +2
      It's one thing to say on the Internet resource, and quite another at such a meeting, which (and THIS is important) is covered in the media, including European and Tang)))
    2. Berber
      Berber April 24 2018 08: 57
      0
      The evidence is that Western “warriors of the world” need to be dunked into their own feces at all sites until they are nauseous.
  5. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 24 2018 08: 46
    +3
    Macron has already appealed to Trump so that he does not withdraw the American contingent from Syria.
    And what does France care about finding the (illegal) US forces in independent Syria?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 24 2018 08: 53
      +6
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And what does France care about finding the (illegal) US forces in independent Syria?

      Welcome hi Macron’s first goal is to seize at least Merkel’s political primacy.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 24 2018 09: 16
        +2
        Gennady, welcome! hi Macron is an athlete, and far from reaching Merkel!
        This is not for him to perform the "Little Flower" on the clarinet!
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 24 2018 09: 26
          +6
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Macron is an athlete, and far from reaching Merkel!

          It’s clear, Vladimir, smile then wait for the "finish" Macron
  6. Brushing
    Brushing April 24 2018 08: 49
    0
    It's time to smell !!!! The whole world is in trash !!! soldier
  7. Lesorub
    Lesorub April 24 2018 08: 50
    +1
    Shoigu: Strange ... For years, coalition countries 30 could not cope with ISIS in Syria

    “Cope” and “Organize - Maintain” are two big differences! )
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 24 2018 08: 55
    0
    Found what to be surprised! To launch the topic of the terrorist STATE with the hands of the Saudis and the Qatari, and as part of the "coalition" to nurture it so as not to offend - this is the true goal of s. The rest is verbal husk ...
  9. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 24 2018 09: 01
    0
    It was necessary to unite for a long time and conclude an agreement on mutual assistance.
  10. MadCat
    MadCat April 24 2018 09: 16
    +1
    Shoigu: Strange ... For years, coalition countries 30 could not cope with ISIS in Syria

    Well, it’s not strange to declare victory 3 times and fight on. Or maybe the nefig was just getting involved in a civil war and calling everyone a policeman with an igil?
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 24 2018 09: 21
    0
    According to the head of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, it is necessary to focus on building a “single fate” society. Wei Fenhe:
    We will demonstrate to the world our solidarity, unity, as well as friendship and cooperation of the SCO.

    But this, for merikatos, has already been voiced in an adult way. angry Scratch turnips to them - do not comb! bully
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 24 2018 10: 26
    +1
    "and the territories controlled by ISIS (* prohibited in the Russian Federation) only expanded" ///

    States, helping the Iraqi army, first defeated ISIS in Iraq.
    And only having finished with Iraq, they transferred activity to Syria.
    Everything is logical, in turn.
    Russia in Syria started not with ISIS at all, but with Islamist militants,
    which especially pressed Assad. Then they took up the city of Aleppo, where
    there were no Islamists or ISIS - local residents who did not like Assad.
    And ISIS, meanwhile, continued to advance.
    Everyone has their own plans and tactics.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 24 2018 13: 05
      0
      Yes, yes ... The US helmsmen have already declared that they bring democracy, LGBT people, light and other pleasures to the stray, as well as they are fighting world terror and evil in general. We see their "plans and tactics".
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 24 2018 18: 08
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      States, helping the Iraqi army, first defeated ISIS in Iraq.

      Aleksey States first razfigachili Iraq, shocking a test tube at the UN, dispersed the army of Saddam, which made up the military core of ISIS, would not have climbed into Iraq, there would have been no ISIS.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Everyone has their own plans and tactics.

      I understand yes Assad must leave, that’s all of them, and your tactics and strategy. hi
  13. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 April 24 2018 11: 17
    0
    No one can be trusted. China is a temporary travel companion. Russia, as always, is alone, and it is unfortunate that the Slavic states in Europe took the side of the Anglo-Saxons. Belarus remained one ally of Russia and all ...... but China simply has its own interests no more.
  14. Franz Josef Land
    Franz Josef Land April 24 2018 11: 52
    +2
    China Siberia, come on Baikal. More Chinese do not need anything from Russia.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 14: 28
      +1
      Quote: Franz Joseph Land
      China Siberia, come on Baikal. More Chinese do not need anything from Russia.

      I heard it from liberalism, back in the 90s .. heh heh
      Let them try to TAKE!
      1. Franz Josef Land
        Franz Josef Land April 24 2018 14: 54
        +3
        You don’t need to take it, you yourself have already given everything.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 15: 12
          0
          Quote: Franz Joseph Land
          You don’t need to take it, you yourself have already given everything.

          Muscovites would give ... But we do not! soldier
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            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 24 2018 16: 13
              +2
              Quote: Franz Joseph Land
              You don’t even have any medicine, they’re killing you and you’re pretty marching. eh ..

              Why not? Everything is there and heart surgery with the flow is done for FREE! With me, simple people lay and humorous ha ha ha ha .. Although many have a serious illness! Laughter stood in the ward, for the whole clinic (they told about their adventures))) The red nurses ran in and reassured our "sick" brother "...
              So do not whine! Inokenty ..he hehe
              1. Shahno
                Shahno April 24 2018 16: 17
                0
                Bad guys, bad. For you old people are waste material, this is wrong.
              2. vovanpain
                vovanpain April 24 2018 17: 32
                +2
                Quote: MIKHAN
                So do not whine! Inokenty ..he hehe

                Vitalik, don’t pay much attention to the clowns, it’s better to go here, the little brothers are laughing at them.
                topwar.ru/140415-shoygu-stranno-30-stran-koalicii
                -godami-ne-mogli-spravitsya-s-igil-v-sirii.html
                They are clowns and in Israel clowns.
  15. NF68
    NF68 April 24 2018 15: 18
    0
    Who will fight with himself. Not for this, the USA started all this.