The state contract is signed. "Admiral Kuznetsov" got up for repair

The Russian Ministry of Defense and the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) signed a state contract for the repair of the heavy aircraft carrier Admiral Fleet Soviet Union Kuznetsov, "Interfax reports, citing an informed source.

The state contract provides for the performance of technical readiness restoration with separate modernization works.

- clarified the interlocutor of the agency, without specifying the value of the contract and the scope of the proposed work.

In connection with the preparation for the start of work, the 35 th Ship Repair Plant (included in the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center as part of USC) posted on social networks a notice stating that "the company is selecting candidates for ship builders, senior ship builders to work in city ​​of Murmansk ".

According to reports, it is assumed that the repair and modernization of "Admiral Kuznetsov" will last two and a half - three years.

On April 12, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov announced that the repair of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrying cruiser should be completed in 2020, the ship will return to the fleet in 2021.

The aircraft carrier will undergo repair, replacement of all boilers, equipment. There is an agreement with the shipbuilders to complete the repair in 2020, and in 2021, the ship must return to the fleet

- he said.

Comments

[Vitaly Anisimov]

You need to write it off .. It would not be a pity ..! And a new build ..

[Genry]

Quote: MIKHAN

You need to write it off .. It would not be a pity ..! And a new build ..

We need such a "cruiser", so that it could go where aircraft carriers were forbidden. So let him live ...

[Don]

Quote: Genry

We need such a "cruiser", so that it could go where aircraft carriers were forbidden. So let him live ...

TAVKR Admiral Kuznetsov for our Navy is a suitcase without a handle: it is a pity to throw it away, and a full repair with modernization costs a lot of money.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Donskoy

TAVKR Admiral Kuznetsov for our Navy - a suitcase without a handle

[hrych]

Quote: Donskoy

Admiral Kuznetsov for our Navy - a suitcase without a handle

Lessons done, expert?

[Genry]

Quote: Donskoy

TAVKR Admiral Kuznetsov for our Navy is a suitcase without a handle: it is a pity to throw it away, and a full repair with modernization costs a lot of money.

And how much time and money will the construction of a new aircraft carrier be? In two or three years, keep fit? And of the big problems at Kuznetsov, only the finisher and boilers.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Genry

Of the big problems at Kuznetsov, only the finisher and boilers.

The finisher is not a problem, actually. But the boilers - yes, but they seem to be changing

[antivirus]

we just got out (in February 14g) from jo ...
Kuzya is not needed by our diplomats ..
Diplomats MUST have the audacity to offer friendship to “partners” on our terms.
not yet able
"Insolence is the second happiness" is not about our foreign policy.
and let Kuzya stand; or it costs money in the database

and without it you can crush your "partners" with arrogance

[NIKNN]

According to reports, it is estimated that the repair and modernization of Admiral Kuznetsov will last two and a half to three years

In other words, we are not afraid of a serious war at the indicated time.

[Hagalaz]

Of course, it would be nice if neither at the indicated time, nor even further. But in the event of a serious war, that he is, our Kuznetsov, that no, there’s no difference.

[pomegranate]

Kuznetsov has to use so many people and equipment (whatever the state of emergency would have caused) that this does not justify his capabilities at the moment!
Which are now very limited.

[pomegranate]

Night take-off and landing systems need 100% replacement since they do not work, they are simply killed in the literal sense of the word!
This is only 5% percent of the total problem !!!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: NIKNN

In other words, we are not afraid of a serious war at the indicated time.

In other words, "rolled steep slope". After going to the coast of Syria, it became completely clear that it was no longer possible to postpone normal repairs - whatever the situation.

[Bar1]

boilers it is not enough if only they said that they were going to do there? will they paint it all?

[lance]

early to write off, he still drives the Amerokokosovskie Augs. harpoons, and maybe onyxes (I’ll dream about the rest) with healthy boilers for another 10-15 years will keep the adversaries in a light shesofrinia.

[Yarik]

He drove a lot in Syria? Or do you think that such a situation with the cable will not happen again? For a year or a half, it will only be painted, but with boilers there will be the same nonsense as with India

[lance]

This is an ordinary situation, and who bothered him and Syria while he stood?

[lopvlad]

Quote: MIKHAN

You need to write it off .. It would not be a pity ..! And a new build ..

you would be in the headquarters of the U.S. Navy. There in the wild Americans 5 out of 12 aircraft carriers that are in service are older than our Kuzi. You would be stupid to explain to them that all this junk should be written off.
Modern Russia cannot build an ordinary BDK in ten years, and you write about an aircraft carrier.
I believe that future Russian aircraft carriers should be, like Kuzya, aircraft-carrying cruisers and not an ordinary floating trough airfield.

[PSih2097]

Quote: lopvlad

There, wild Americans 5 out of 12 aircraft carriers in service are older than our Kuzi.

the problem is that:
1) they have YaSU;
2) they have all the infrastructure (supply of everything necessary from the shore);
I agree that at least one in the Pacific Fleet and in the Siberian Branch is needed and one in reserve, but first you need to create all the necessary infrastructure for basing.

[cosmogonist]

Quote: PSih2097

the problem is that:
1) they have YaSU;
2) they have all the infrastructure

What about you?

[PSih2097]

Quote: cosmogonist

What about you?

and we have KTU and there is no infrastructure other than Shipbuilding Plant ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: MIKHAN

You need to write it off .. It would not be a pity ..! And a new build ..

Along the way, they will write it off for repair, years through 6-7.

[Archivist Vasya]

You can’t write off until there is new, you never know what. But there will be no new one in the near future, we won’t pull such costs, and even if they take up the construction, they will drag on for 10-15 years. Yes, it’s out of date damn, but at least something ...

[NEXUS]

They treat the old man as if the cat’s tail is chopped in parts .. they would do one full normal thorough repair and would not be foolish.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: NEXUS

They treat the old man as if the cat’s tail is chopped in parts .. they would do one full normal thorough repair and would not be foolish.

how is Andrey? it will not become atomic, but boilers are the last century. deadlock.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

how is Andrey? it will not become atomic, but boilers are the last century. deadlock

Namesake, you can’t heal half ... do you say boilers If our Moscow Region decided to leave Kuzya in operation, why shouldn’t it be given the task to the developers to modernize the boilers or find a solution to replace the boilers with something new? essentially not able to carry out a combat mission.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: NEXUS

why not give the task to the developers to modernize the boilers or find a solution to replace the boilers with something new?

so there’s nothing, alas ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

so there’s nothing, alas ...

That's why I said about the tail and the cat. Did you feel it?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: NEXUS

If our MO decided to leave Kuzya in operation, why not give it a task to the developers to modernize the boilers or find a solution to replace the boilers with something new?

At 11435, the matter is not in the boilers themselves, but in the preparation of the personnel of the БЧ-5 and observing the maintenance and repair schedule. The Chinese have exactly the same boilers at 956E operated without problems.
No repair and modernization will be saved if the same pipes in the boilers are not replaced on time.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Alexey RA

if you do not timely replace the same pipes in the boilers.

namely pipes, not boilers ..... as many wise men think here, without even understanding the problem

[New Year day]

Quote: NEXUS

modernize boilers or find a solution to replace boilers with something

you can ask the Chinese, they put something new on their "Kuznetsovs"

[URAL72]

I think it could become atomic, but this is a remake of abruptly Gorshkov, which means it is not economically feasible. In the Union, the Black Sea test was successfully tested at the Black Sea Fleet, in the tail of which, from the outside, an atomic energy block was installed to increase the duration of being under water. There are no steam catapults on Kuz, there are two low-power reactors plus electric engines and you can go around the world, and instead of ship fuel, fuels and lubricants and ammunition.

[Corsair0304]

The Russian Defense Ministry and the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) signed a state contract for the repair of the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov

It would be strange if not signed.
That the volume and value of the contract are classified is correct. Based on these data, we can conclude what and how will be repaired there. Although probably this is already known.

[askort154]

With “Kuzey” everything is clear, he left for 3 years. But “Moscow” should be somewhere in the output?

[askort154]

askort154 ... But “Moscow” should be somewhere in the output?
Unfortunately, an annoying mistake came out. The cruiser Moscow is still awaiting repair. They plan to deliver this year. (he asked, he answered)

[Chichikov]

Quote: askort154

With “Kuzey” everything is clear, he left for 3 years. But “Moscow” should be somewhere in the output?

And I can’t believe something .... After a three-year repair, another two or three years will carry out acceptance measures!

[K-50]

The Russian Ministry of Defense and the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) signed a state contract for the repair of the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov

Well, "Kuzya" heal, your "health" is useful to the country.

[Heterocapsa]

we need a breakthrough

[rotmistr60]

we need a breakthrough

And also coverage with the subsequent environment.

[Hagalaz]

We have a sewer burst on a nearby street, is it suitable for you?

[Tarasve]

This is probably the last repair Kuzi.
Yes, and “Moscow” is time to put on repair, has been waiting for a long time.

[alexhol]

I would suggest exchanging China for an analogue with a surcharge: both faster and cheaper, and I think - better.

[Romario_Argo]

will soon make changes to the regulations, which will result in modernization (!)
* change everything: SAM Redut 128 SAM 9M96MD with agsn, SAM ZRPantsir-M, 48 RCC P-800, PTZ Package-NK

[Thunderbolt]

It even became somehow easier that work would begin soon. It is clear that the treasury rich in this business is not expected, but while the air group will shaman it, it will train, and the aircraft factories will also “throw” something by the deadline for the repair, so that the news is more positive than it would just stand and rust without prospects.

[Bronevick]

What prevented him from starting repairs right after Syria?

[icant007]

What does it mean right away? Each decision has its own life cycle.

[Bronevick]

Well, why then now? Could say well, let's start from 2020. There, without any solutions, all the problems were clear 5 years ago, the boilers were worn out, the cables were old because they no longer produce them, stalactites must be removed in the fuel tanks, in the cabins it stinks of damp constantly, mold on the walls.

[Eustace]

And who was entrusted with the temporary duties of the flagship?

[Galleon]

to make of it a heavy air defense strike cruiser with all possible generosity: “Caliber”, “Onyx”, S-400 with “Carapace”, leave unmanned aerial vehicles for the Central Command from aviation - and let the whole world shudder.

[gukoyan]

And at whose expense is the banquet?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Galleon

to make of it a heavy air defense strike cruiser with all possible generosity: “Caliber”, “Onyx”, S-400 with “Carapace”, leave unmanned aerial vehicles for the Central Command from aviation - and let the whole world shudder.

From laughter?

[K-50]

What, interestingly, deck pilots will do? No matter how qualified they are.

[PSih2097]

Quote: K-50

What, interestingly, deck pilots will do? No matter how qualified they are.

they have a THREAD in Saki and a similar complex in Yeysk.

[lance]

Liaolin to master in full, China itself was not interested in the whip.

[egor1712]

Good news. It is necessary to repair. Many pessimists say I need Kuzya and especially his air wing. This is a master of the highest class, there will be no ship to lose aces of the highest class. Not to mention that the cruiser is the carrier of anti-ship missiles.

[jncnfdybr]

Quote: K-50

What, interestingly, deck pilots will do? No matter how qualified they are.

And pilots have a place to train. Saki and Yeysk.

[New Year day]

Quote: jncnfdybr

And pilots have a place to train. Saki

something in Novofedorovka they are not visible and not heard for 2 years

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: jncnfdybr

And pilots have a place to train.

No. One is unfinished, the second needs repair. Both do not replace deck practice

[Denis Obukhov]

Yes, start already soon! As without hands, without it.

[AVGUST]

Gentlemen, who knows why it cannot be made atomic ??? What is stopping this is that atomic submarine missile carriers rivet, so technological holes are cut through several decks in them, and the reactors are loaded ........

[lance]

nuclear reactor cooling system, heat exchangers, etc., etc., although the space for fuel oil is freed up

[Dart2027]

Quote: AVGUST

What is stopping this?

Technically it’s possible, only the scope of work will be very large.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: AVGUST

Gentlemen, who knows why it cannot be made atomic ??? What is stopping this?

The slightest disturbance is the need to fit two biosafety reactors into the space between the bottom and the hangar.
This is good for "Petru" - it has reactors with refueling shafts AZ safely go along the entire height of the ship right up to the upper deck. And at the Kuznetsov a hangar is already starting a couple of decks above the waterline.

[filatik]

Quote: MIKHAN

You need to write it off .. It would not be a pity ..! And a new build ..

Support!

[MadCat]

And it’s a sinful thing for me that after that epic victory in Syria it was already repaired!

[gukoyan]

I think (I’m sure) by 2021 it will no longer be relevant, it will either be frowned upon or a museum, perhaps by that time they’ll come up with something more interesting ... How many news about him do not read the eternal repairs, but they can’t do anything.

[Archivist Vasya]

It's time, repair soon, or else it’s useful today or tomorrow ...

[Chichikov]

He was needed, still "yesterday"!

[Hole puncher]

Well, that’s the natural end to the sufferer, they’ll begin to shift the deadlines, then they will abandon them altogether, and then suck for many years until they completely plunder.
P. S: they say correctly, you can’t rename a ship, a bad omen. And in terms of changing the name of Kuzya, the record holder

[kefan]

Something tells me that in 2012 the repair of the ship will obviously not end.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kefan

Something tells me that in 2012 the repair of the ship is clearly not over

You are all right. 2012 ended before this repair began

[kefan]

Come on, find fault, the meaning of the comment from those. the error still does not change.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kefan

the meaning of the comment from those. errors still don't change

No way.
But so - the comment is simply about nothing, and so - at least funny ...
I'm talking about it exactly

[kefan]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But so - the comment is just about nothing

Well this is your opinion.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kefan

Something tells me that in 20 ** the repair of the ship obviously will not end

And what is the hidden meaning?

[kefan]

And here is just a statement of fact, unfortunately.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kefan

just a statement of fact

There is no "fact" for the time being. And there is no “statement" of it, as a result - either. It just can't be for lack of what to state.
So I’m talking about nothing

[kefan]

At the moment, no, you just need to analyze the dynamics of repair and construction of warships at the indicated time and everything will become clear.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kefan

and everything will become clear

Have you ever been told that you are a bore?
Well, so - I tell you this.
Asta Magnana

[kefan]

And all the best to you

[PSN10]

A group of deck aviation pilots have already been in China since February, either for training or for transferring experience to Chinese comrades. The option of ordering Varyag clones for the Russian Navy is not ruled out.

[kefan]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: kefan

just a statement of fact

There is no "fact" for the time being. And there is no “statement" of it, as a result - either. It just can't be for lack of what to state.
So I’m talking about nothing

Again, this is your opinion.

[Zomanus]

Interestingly, they will leave the possibility of firing rockets?
And so, on modernization, we have most of the fleet out of order.

[geniy]

In my opinion, this aircraft carrier, in addition to repair, needs a little modernization, and not so much the ship itself, but its technical equipment and aircraft to greatly increase combat effectiveness. So, for example, if you make the wings of the deck fighter of the Su-27 and MiG-29 bombers fold in the form of the letter “Z” - that is, double folding, then the overall width of these aircraft will become only 4 meters - and this is as much as 2 ( !!) times less than when folding the wing once (overall width 7,8 m). This means that the width of the aircraft carrier will be able to accommodate twice as many aircraft. But in addition, it is possible to make the planes in the deck below the hangar placed on 2 floors: the upper rows would be suspended on chains under the ceiling, and the lower ones would be placed on low carts (the height of the carts is only 200 mm). And then it turns out that this aircraft carrier could place 4 times more combat aircraft in its deck below the hangar than now! (That is, two times more in height, and two times more in width, and 2x2 = 4). Thus, instead of 28 combat aircraft as it is now, the aircraft carrier Kuznetsov without any alteration could carry 4 times more on board - that is, 114 aircraft - more than any American nuclear carrier.
It is also necessary to improve the conduct of landing operations.
A very long taxiing to start the deck aircraft - a very large loss of time Taxiing to the start takes
at least 3 minutes of time. at the same time, he also works with his engine - that is, it consumes fuel, and moreover
the jet stream is dangerous for the deck crew and aircraft standing on the deck. It is necessary to apply any delivery
trolley of minimum height (for example, only 200 mm high), so that it has all wheels turning and
own electric motor. The speed of movement is small, but in any direction (even in the transverse direction to the axis of the aircraft) and rotation in place.

You can also install gutters on the deck - so that the wheels of the scattering aircraft roll in a rut and cannot turn in any direction. It’s like in a joke: Russian says: I’m driving along my roads like this: Brick for gas, but I’m sleeping. The American asks him - but what about the car does not turn aside?
Russian: Yes, where is she out of a rut ... nah will get away!
The same is for deck aircraft: place shallow gutters on the deck. And then take-off planes can be made so that they with their wing for brief moments of the final phase of the run would hang over the sea, and not over the deck as it is now. To do this, on Kuznetsovo you need to expand the nose section of the springboard quite a bit.
But then the runways will become parallel and free the entire middle part of the deck of the aircraft carrier. And thanks to this, you can refuse to use a corner landing deck. And to land on the midline along the longitudinal axis of the ship, which is much more convenient than an airplane to land at an angle when the aircraft carrier is on the move.
And if you do so, then the length of the take-off run will increase from 90 meters to about 250 meters, and the run length from 90 meters - up to 250-300 meters! And this is much more convenient and will significantly increase the combat properties of an aircraft carrier as a ship, because the aircraft on Kuznetsovo have a limit on take-off weight - since 90 meters of run-up does not allow them to gain such speed to take off at full weight. But if you increase the length of the run to 250 meters, then it is much better. And here it is necessary to take into account that there will remain a deck area 50 meters before the aft section, and it will be possible to install 4 more aircraft in a row that can start right after the first one. And since there will be two take-off strips (one to the right and the other to the left of the landing, and 5 take-off planes per runway, it means that almost 10 fighter planes take off almost simultaneously.
So landing on a longitudinal landing strip 250 meters long will be much more convenient - because the wind will blow strictly in the nose of the aircraft, reducing its landing speed.

And besides, you can install gas turbine catapults. Steam catapults are used on American aircraft carriers, and they plan to switch to electromagnetic ones. But there is a proposal - to accelerate the run-up of decked aircraft, use gas turbine engines that wind a cable onto the disk, which is worn in a ring on a hook fixed under the belly of the aircraft. In principle, there is nothing new: most gliders start with a car winch, the cable of which accelerates the glider, and then the ring itself falls down.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: geniy

then the overall width of these aircraft will be only 4 meters

Lusha is 8 times - then the width of the Su-33 will go to a negative value and they can be placed an infinite number - the more you put, the more space in the hangar!

Quote: geniy

But in addition, it is possible to make the planes in the deck below the hangar placed on 2 floors: the upper rows would be suspended on chains under the ceiling,

Take an interest in the leisure time of Kuznetsov’s hangars and the height of aircraft :)))

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Take an interest in the leisure time of Kuznetsov’s hangars and the height of aircraft :)))

You can also take an interest in the experience of our sworn friends, who on “Lady Sarah” and “Lady Lex” initially organized a two-story placement of aircraft in the hangar. According to the results of the exercises, it was concluded: suspended planes are only suitable as spares to replace failed ones. Their operational use together with those on the hangar deck is impossible.
By the way, all the incredible figures for aircraft for this couple are given precisely from the calculation of the "two-story" location.