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Backward country Russia. Pentagon is one tooth!

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After Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the latest developments of the Russian military-industrial complex, all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that Russia is in fact a backward country, and its weapons are outdated and, of course, inferior to Western on most parameters.




Although from time to time, from the lips of experts and high-ranking US military, there are also opposing assessments, they drown in the general propaganda choir.

A new impetus for "debunking" the military power of Russia was the rocket attack of the United States and its allies on Syria. In particular, Pentagon spokesman Dana White, at a specially convened briefing, announced that the air defense systems operating in Syria had failed to intercept any of the American missiles.

“Of the land-based missiles launched by the Bashar Assad regime, almost all were launched after the last of our missiles hit the target. The missile defense systems produced by Russia were absolutely ineffective, ”said a spokeswoman for the military.

Similar statements were made by a number of American military leaders. In all these statements, there is a rather curious detail - the Syrian air defense systems, which the Americans aggressively call "Russian", are in fact, mostly Soviet, and delivered during Soviet times, and some have passed the age of fifty years.

However, representatives of the US military insistently call them "Russian", making it clear that weapons our country is armed. As if alluding to our technical backwardness.

In fact, a significant part of these complexes was removed from the armament of our army during the times of the USSR.

Although they have undergone a certain modernization in the CAA, all these systems are irretrievably outdated. But even they, as we know, intercepted more than half of the missiles.

In the persistent denial of this fact is seen not only the desire to support Donald Trump, who blurted out for all to hear, that all the missiles of the Americans and their allies hit the target, but also something more that cannot but worry.

The fact is that the American military usually and eagerly speak about the Russian (Chinese, Iranian, and so on) threat associated with the great military power and new capabilities of the enemy, capable of delivering considerable problems to the United States.

In addition to solving such propaganda tasks as creating an image of the enemy, consolidating society in front of external threats, blocking anti-militarist and opposition sentiments, these statements help to solve purely utilitarian tasks: an increase in the military budget, the allocation of additional funds for new developments.

Even during the Cold War, commanders of the United States were more likely to exaggerate the military and technical capabilities of the USSR, and Hollywood contributed a lot to the Pentagon.

After the collapse of the social bloc and the Soviet Union and the concomitant avalanche-like reduction in military spending, the generals seized upon any informational occasion that could be presented as evidence of the emergence of a new threat requiring a response.

The current hats and statements that shape ideas about the weakness of the enemy in society are disturbing because история, they are an obligatory part of the psychological preparation of their society for war along with the dehumanization of the enemy. By the way, today we are also seeing work on the “dehumanization” of Russians in the information spaces of most Western countries.

Recall that the formation of the image of Russia as a colossus on clay feet was an indispensable event for all those who prepared the attack on our country, starting with Napoleon. Moreover, with the Nazis, their well-placed powerful propaganda played a nasty joke. At some point, the leadership of the Reich became more trusting in the materials of the Goebbels department than in the reports of Canaris's subordinates. As a result, from the very first days of the war, the German military faced many disappointments. “The large mass of weapons, their technical quality, the country's gigantic industrialization caused the first perplexing impressions that contradicted the substantial arguments of previous ideas about the Soviet Union,” the security chief and the SD reported in a secret report on the 309 number.

Returning to the specifics of today's American propaganda, it should be noted that the activities carried out clearly fit into the framework of "psychological operations in the pre-war period" (spelled out in the statute of the US Army FM-33-1 "Psychological operations").

Not without reason, the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Nikolai Patrushev, described what is happening as an ever-increasing threat to national security. “Obviously, in connection with changes in US policy towards Russia, threats to national security are increasing. All this requires the development of additional measures to neutralize them. Among the key ones, it is necessary to solve problems related to increasing the offensiveness of foreign policy, ensuring an adequate level of defense, and the state and public security of Russia, ”said Patrushev at a meeting of the interdepartmental commission of the Russian Security Council on strategic planning.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 23 2018 05: 56
    +20
    all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that in reality Russia is a backward country,
    and in response, our grave and dangerous silence ...
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin April 23 2018 07: 13
      +15
      Our propaganda is lagging behind. MO with proofs is slow, people are always divided into 3 categories, FOR, AGAINST and "DARK". And the task of propaganda is to pull precisely the “mating” ones to their side
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 23 2018 07: 36
        +18
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        And the task of propaganda is to pull precisely the “mating” ones to their side

        Which of the "mocking ones", excuse me? Inside the country? Yes, do not care for them ... Out of the country? This is ... unrealistic and, in general, also - not very necessary.
        And by the way, this is exactly the task of propaganda, not MO.
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        MO with proofs is slow

        For such thoughts in the USSR, you would have given confession testimony about cooperation with Zanzibar intelligence. And now, you see, they are bolder - give them "proofs" ...
        Rewrite yes
        1. jjj
          jjj April 23 2018 12: 01
          +2
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          For such thoughts in the USSR, you would have given confession testimony about cooperation with Zanzibar intelligence.

          They would just ask what the author meant by this request. Perhaps, within the framework of the permissible, the answer would be given on which island of the archipelago it is better to rest
      2. Shukshin
        Shukshin April 23 2018 08: 47
        +8
        It is necessary to hire telepaths and broadcast information through them))).
        Foreign and many Russian media in the hands of the enemy (((
      3. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 23 2018 14: 45
        +2
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        Our propaganda is lagging behind. MO with proofs is slow, people are always divided into 3 categories, FOR, AGAINST and "DARK". And the task of propaganda is to win over those who are" mingling "
        On the 4th, there is still a category "Show a photo !!!"
        1. G A_2
          G A_2 April 23 2018 23: 13
          +3
          Quote: NIKNN
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Our propaganda is lagging behind. MO with proofs is slow, people are always divided into 3 categories, FOR, AGAINST and "DARK". And the task of propaganda is to win over those who are" mingling "
          On the 4th, there is still a category "Show a photo !!!"

          I suppose you when the traffic cop stops and imputes the intersection of a double solid for example. Scream. Show a photo video capture. Not?
      4. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 April 24 2018 10: 53
        +1
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        Our propaganda is lagging behind.

        And why should it be strongly promoted, when they get it through the “tinsel" and this will be the best propaganda. That's what is written here is enough for a smart military. I’m not talking about politicians, these are stubborn people, they only carry out the task and they don’t have to prove anything, for them the most important propaganda is real losses and an angry people.
      5. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 April 25 2018 09: 07
        +2
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        Our propaganda is lagging behind. MO with proofs is slow, people are always divided into 3 categories, FOR, AGAINST and "DARK". And the task of propaganda is to pull precisely the “mating” ones to their side

        Propaganda acts on those who listen to it and do not see that nothing is changing in the country. throw scraps to us so that we do not die of hunger, but we are glad that everything has changed. Everything would have changed if it had changed.
        In the international arena, oligarchs, i.e. vorae wins back the parties and restores the army not for the people, but so that the Western lack of people do not take away from them what they have appropriated to themselves. Because without the people and the army they would have taken all the Westerners. In fact, they don’t care about the people, nor about the Tsar’s boyars.
      6. 73bor
        73bor April 25 2018 20: 00
        0
        The article is about something else — how an ordinary person in the USA or Europe will react to the fact that Russia is a weak, incapable state with outdated weapons, BUT wait a week ago, these people were convinced otherwise, someone should have obvious SCHIZOPHRENIA !
    2. credo
      credo April 23 2018 11: 23
      +7
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that in reality Russia is a backward country,
      and in response, our grave and dangerous silence ...

      Our silence is more eloquent than the most bravura speech of any representative of the USA and it is expressed in the use of Soviet and Russian weapons by the SAA troops and the Russian contingent in Syria, which shows quite successful results.
      In general, is it worth it to be so distracted by all these passages from the United States about the quality of domestic weapons, if the Americans themselves, while recognizing the quality and unpretentiousness of Soviet weapons, quite so bluntly declare that they will begin to produce samples of Soviet weapons on their own and on its territory. That's what you need to write about.
      From the same opera "expert opinions" from China, India, Azerbaijan or Ukraine, etc. about the poor quality of Russian weapons, which are sometimes reprinted by our media.
      The arms market is quite stable and financially attractive, and Russia ranks second in it, but many competitors do not like it, so they give their "professional expertise" to the mountain based on photos and drawings.
    3. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 15: 40
      +2
      Probably, it is necessary to twist more rollers on RT with apocalyptic pictures ...
    4. Awak
      Awak April 23 2018 19: 54
      +3
      I agree. It is high time to call white white, and black black, and not to express "Concern" on the channels of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Britain and the United States sponsors terrorism and war.
      1. Sedoi zmei
        Sedoi zmei April 24 2018 11: 35
        +1
        Prailna! The time has come to express MUCH Concern! What to pull that ?! angry
    5. Alexander Nezgovorov
      Alexander Nezgovorov April 23 2018 23: 48
      +2
      but are they wrong ??? In addition to Soviet developments, we have only boasting ... or, as they call it "PR" ... The commander who underestimates the army of a potential enemy is bad ...
      1. Alexander Nikiforov_2
        Alexander Nikiforov_2 April 25 2018 11: 41
        +2
        ... and overestimates his own! The 41st not everyone has forgotten ... "Little blood ...", "on foreign territory ...", "The Red Army is stronger than all ..." And the war with the Finns in the 39th? .. And with Georgia in 2008? .. Bragging is in our blood: "who will praise me, if not myself?" And now there is also an excuse for the unknown lards. Once it was called "home registry" and put in it ... Only, patriots, do not declare me an "enemy of the people" and do not expel me from Russia ...
    6. Andrey Andreev_2
      Andrey Andreev_2 April 24 2018 00: 10
      +3
      Now in Jordan, 3.5 thousand NATO commandos near the border with Syria are “training”, in the Middle East, the ASG led by “G. Truman”, Israel is beating a hoof ... and all because of the fact that the 22nd SAS air battalion was soaked in Syria Small Britain (and these are 4 special forces companies and a staff company). Part of it was destroyed, and part of it was taken prisoner, and even they are not negotiating for release. It seems to me that this is revenge for our murdered boys, who were called the Wagnerites. Hence the provocation of the Britons with a gas attack, and the screams / squeals of Terezka Snake ..
    7. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 April 25 2018 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that in reality Russia is a backward country,
      and in response, our grave and dangerous silence ...

      But they saved the reputation of America. After the statements of Shoigu, Gerasimov would like to say (unfortunately, but for the sake of objectivity) that the dogs bark and the American caravan continues to walk. It's a shame for the state.
      One gets the feeling that after the coup (when Stalin was poisoned) only signs change, and the secret rulers do not change. The execution of workers in Novocherkassk was only the beginning.
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  2. antivirus
    antivirus April 23 2018 06: 14
    +9
    we just returned to the world stage (After Vietnam - the first (again) pancake and not quite lumpy. ALREADY MUCH REACHED.
    it will be harder next. - Download loot-- everywhere our "market, democratic" economy is being squeezed. Gref and Kostin (with Kudin and Nemtsov) could not - AND NOW CANNOT RESPONSIBLY RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. Relative control within the country is a trifle for the global alignment.
    this is the main challenge to the authorities of the Russian Federation for 10-15 years in advance (the 90s have been wasted) .--- therefore, you should not particularly rejoice in the successes in Syria.
    COMMERCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS NEEDED -
    1 IN VIETNAM AND IN CUBA.
    2. IN INDIA AND VENEZUELA OR OTHER NEIGHBORS ON P1.

    since in countries according to item 1 we won by military means and tied with amers during the times of the USSR, we need to PROVE our commercial viability (at least somewhere outside of Russia).
    The outskirts in this regard have been proven.

    How will we continue to live? ”“ They poke the Kremlin, they point to poor manageability and development within the country.
    1. KaPToC
      KaPToC April 24 2018 21: 17
      +2
      Quote: antivirus
      our "market, democratic" economy is being squeezed

      Quote: antivirus
      COMMERCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS NEEDED

      Commercial achievements are needed, but not in the sale of raw materials to the west, for a long time it is necessary to stop selling priceless raw materials to the west.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 23 2018 06: 29
    +29
    The author is right, almost all the signs of preparation for a real war are in the face: NATO near our borders, active demonization of Russia, unbridled Russophobia in the media, the layman is hammered that the Russian Armed Forces are weak and ineffective, ongoing exercises at our borders, an increase in the number of reconnaissance flights ... to keep silent about this situation, hoping that they will go mad and calm down for themselves more. I hope that the country's leadership will have the courage and political will to speak and act with the so-called "partners", as with a real enemy.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 23 2018 10: 07
      +1
      I recall Andropov’s words to the west, like --- if you don’t touch us, then we won’t touch you either. After 1MB, intervention, WWII?
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 April 23 2018 15: 42
        +6
        Yes, this is a flawed position. We must actively destroy the States in many ways that are available to us. No need to wait until they get ready. The war is already underway.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 23 2018 17: 03
          +2
          Quote: meandr51
          Yes, this is a flawed position ......... t.
          Having repented then 2 times for Katyn, our country embarked on the path of repentance, imposed by the white project and liberalism. And for about 30 years follows this path -------. The wailing wall, all sorts of places of sorrow. In words, there’s one thing, but the fact ---- as with humpback and drunk.
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 April 23 2018 11: 04
      +3
      Gennady, how old are you? It was just the same during the Cold War, but there wasn’t such media! Now it’s the same cold war, it’s just everything on the face and on the TV with a computer, in the public domain! And I really don’t want a war, and fearfully!
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 April 23 2018 11: 10
        +6
        I remember Khrushchev very well and studied at school during the Caribbean crisis. They seriously waited for Levitan's statement about the start of the war.
        during the cold war was the same
        The same, but not that.
        1. jjj
          jjj April 23 2018 12: 05
          0
          Do you remember the assassination of UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld? What about Tshombe?
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 April 23 2018 12: 08
            +3
            Why are you doing this? If you are so interested, I don’t complain about the memory. And I remember Patrice Lumumba, and Angela Davis.
            1. jjj
              jjj April 26 2018 13: 02
              0
              It's me that everything was already there. All repeats. But for many, this repetition is new.
              Well, now we are much stronger
        2. meandr51
          meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 06
          +6
          "Not that" only in the sense of the reaction of our media. In fact, it was even worse. And not only in 1962. I spoke with the participants of the Caribbean crisis and the forgotten crisis of 1956, when Israel, England and France tried to seize the Suez Canal. The pilots sat in a Tu-16 for a couple of days with suspended nuclear bombs and waited for an order to take off. The goals were in the designated three countries. When their governments realized that this was real, they immediately retreated.
          With Cuba, about the same. Castro demanded an immediate nuclear strike against the United States, regardless of the consequences. Commander Pliev in Cuba had the authority to order, with certain signs, to attack the United States. Pilots were planted in IL-28 in Cuba and Tu-95 in the Union. YAB are suspended, goals are indicated. They started to rocket already refuel. Re-draining the components was very problematic. When Kennedy realized that in 10 minutes. Washington may have a hot empty place, he went to real negotiations and removed the missiles from Turkey.
          1. G A_2
            G A_2 April 23 2018 23: 24
            0
            Quote: meandr51
            "Not that" only in the sense of the reaction of our media. In fact, it was even worse. And not only in 1962. I spoke with the participants of the Caribbean crisis and the forgotten crisis of 1956, when Israel, England and France tried to seize the Suez Canal. The pilots sat in a Tu-16 for a couple of days with suspended nuclear bombs and waited for an order to take off. The goals were in the designated three countries. When their governments realized that this was real, they immediately retreated.
            With Cuba, about the same. Castro demanded an immediate nuclear strike against the United States, regardless of the consequences. Commander Pliev in Cuba had the authority to order, with certain signs, to attack the United States. Pilots were planted in IL-28 in Cuba and Tu-95 in the Union. YAB are suspended, goals are indicated. They started to rocket already refuel. Re-draining the components was very problematic. When Kennedy realized that in 10 minutes. Washington may have a hot empty place, he went to real negotiations and removed the missiles from Turkey.

            Fairy tales. The first back included Khrushchev removing rockets from Cuba. Missiles from Turkey were removed later. The United States at that time had a noticeable advantage in nuclear weapons. In short, I’ve pissed everyone. In general, anyone here in the comments discusses so easily about a nuclear war, I suppose they will fall asleep as soon as they see a nuclear mushroom outside their windows. Cool !!!!
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 April 24 2018 06: 38
              +1
              Where did you get this from with your gopotsky jargon, you’re a month old, and you teach history to adults? If you know specifically, write ... contracts with amers signed by officials were drawn up, deadlines are set ... we were removed first, then by Americans! here to talk patsanski .. you on the street "bounce off talk" ... laughing but not here! And I suppose you have already seen a nuclear mushroom, and instead of assuming the appropriate position as you taught in the army .. oh, I'm sorry, maybe you weren’t there .. you cheerfully wrote in your pants ..?
        3. igorka357
          igorka357 April 24 2018 06: 30
          0
          Yes, it was even worse, and much..just we didn’t know ..
      2. meandr51
        meandr51 April 23 2018 15: 43
        +4
        If it’s scary, then the task of the divan troops is to make the enemy on the sofas even worse.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 April 24 2018 06: 40
          0
          That's right, but not all the sofas now, will sit out when it starts .. laughing
    3. konstantin68
      konstantin68 April 23 2018 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The author is right to face almost all the signs of preparation for a real war:

      What's the point? The West already once defeated a much stronger rival, the USSR. They also intend to defeat Russia. And cheaper and safer, and most importantly, it happens somewhere very far from the American layman, without straining. The hot phase will not be for sure, especially since Trump has already announced the main vector-economic confrontation with China.
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 12
        +2
        Reminds an English fairy tale about three piglets whom the wolf almost convinced that they are skinny, and
        he will not eat them.
      2. Senior manager
        Senior manager April 24 2018 09: 39
        +1
        Quote: konstantin68
        Trump has already announced the main vector-economic confrontation with China.

        You are a naive person. Trump announced his DREAM - to fight with China. Are you not worried about the divergence of Trump’s words and the actions of the State Department (expulsion of diplomats), the Ministry of Defense (firing rockets of Syria), and sanctions on a far-fetched pretext? But Trump’s red thread is the idea that you need to get along with Russia. Keep believing if it reassures you
    4. businessv
      businessv April 23 2018 14: 28
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In this situation, keep silent, hoping that they will get mad and calm down more expensively. I hope that the country's leadership will have the courage and political will to speak and act with the so-called "partners", as with a real enemy.

      On the one hand, you are certainly right, but in most cases our answers sound like an excuse! So maybe it just makes sense to adequately respond to every fake attack with a real action? Accused of poisoning the violins - we drove out British diplomats-brits only because their leadership dared to speak with us in a disrespectful tone! They accused us of a chemical attack and promised a missile strike, we launched a missile attack on the base of cabbage rolls at Et-Tanf! It is clear that the former metropolises want the former prosperity and prosperity, but what have we to do with it ?! Want to bloom, bloom, just don’t touch us! The Baltic hysterical midgets always assure everyone that Russia can attack them! One question to remove this hysteria: for what purpose? What kind of logs should we attack them for ?! To increase the number of pensioners in Russia and get a depressed subsidized region into an asset ?! Ukraine is also a pity, a huge market, but it’s time to put up with it and show that we don’t need it either, having previously recognized LDNR. In short, it is necessary to send shavers, mattresses and makronniki on a note in which to warn that we will perceive all the charges against us as a guide to action, for which please do not judge beforehand!
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 14
        +5
        Yes, it works for Kim. But he has no kids in America and England. And also 5 columns in the government and army.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 23 2018 06: 50
    +3
    However, representatives of the US military department insistently call them "Russian", making it clear that our country is armed with similar weapons. As if hinting at our technical backwardness.

    I think this is not the worst option for us. Let the mericatos in the literature amuse themselves, and the caravan SHOULD go. angry
    1. krops777
      krops777 April 23 2018 07: 13
      +4
      However, representatives of the US military department insistently call them "Russian", making it clear that our country is armed with similar weapons. As if hinting at our technical backwardness.


      Yes, let them think so, it’s in our hands, then let them not be surprised how this Russian Ivan gave back the super duper of the equipped army with luff weapons.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ April 23 2018 09: 34
        +7
        Quote: krops777
        Yes, let them think so, it’s in our hands, then let them not be surprised how this Russian Ivan gave back the super duper of the equipped army with luff weapons.

        All this is cool, of course, but it is better to avoid these "hopes." The fact that "weary" is unequivocal, but for us it will not be in vain. We are not the Soviet Union, we do not have that potential, both industrial and human, and this war can cost us much more if we survive as a united country at all.
        In Washington, people lost their sense of reality from our constant exhortations and attempts to come to an agreement. “Beat - defines consciousness”, at the first signs of a tough response, “our partners” instantly begin to realize the transience of their existence and are ready to arbitrarily agree and limit their “Wishlist”. And we are constantly - "partners, partners," for taking weakness, take our goodwill.
      2. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 April 23 2018 13: 32
        +4
        In the USSR, they never showed it! But they were afraid, they knew that there was a weapon and it was being developed. But sometimes in the USSR they also bluffed (for example, in a parade) sometimes a good show is more expensive than money hi
      3. Alber
        Alber April 23 2018 16: 26
        +2
        Quote: krops777
        let them not be surprised how this Russian Ivan, with retarded weapons, was pushing luli to their superfood-equipped army.


        Hm. We no longer have factories, factories. There is practically no industry ...
        Moscow, Peter, Kaluga as an example do not take
    2. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair April 23 2018 08: 47
      +8
      I think they just got used to fighting an equal opponent.
      Cleansing in villages, using snipers to work on the "mortgages" of landmines, dropping 5 tons of bombs uphill (on special forces guidance) is not at all like fighting a regular army (many of which made war and military affairs their specialties in life), or break through layered air defense.
      Yes, they simply no longer imagine what war is in conditions when there is no total superiority of their own aircraft in the sky. When the enemy has helicopters and tactical bombers. IMHO, on their AUG, 95 percent of the ammunition is air-to-land, and only some minimum (or even not at all) of defensive and offensive air-to-air ... For aircraft carriers - have long become floating airfields for bombing barmalei
      1. papas-57
        papas-57 April 24 2018 22: 55
        +3
        "I think they just got used to fighting an equal opponent." And they really did not know how. Their tactics in all wars are simple - to attack the scorched earth and the ruins of cities after processing by aircraft and artillery. After the first retaliatory shots, retreat and call in aviation and artillery. So to complete silence. Only in Hollywood cinema do they fight differently, performing feats to the right and left, saving the world from the bad (in their understanding) guys.
  5. Strashila
    Strashila April 23 2018 06: 53
    +1
    The military budgets of the countries are especially indicative ... after the declared victory over the USSR in the West they tensed expecting an answer ... but there is none and no, probably Russia thought weak and they still threw up a budget.
  6. wooja
    wooja April 23 2018 07: 11
    +2
    the propaganda there is awesome, God forbid this comes to us.
    1. assever
      assever April 23 2018 11: 57
      +1
      Dementia and courage there are amazing ....
    2. Schima68
      Schima68 April 23 2018 15: 28
      0
      Dima, what a propaganda, EEEKaly Borisov and Malakhov, what month on the channel we are shown as Jews. in youth they liked to uncork young "jars" or the prosecutor Gordon, give free rein 37 g. with his relatives.
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 23 2018 07: 19
    +2
    Backward country Russia. Pentagon is one tooth!

    I don’t think that they will decide to taste it ... you can’t relax anyway ...
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn April 23 2018 08: 46
      +5
      They already tasted us to taste ... In Yugoslavia and Libya - they liked it there ... With the outskirts, everything is more complicated ... But in Syria we already put a bitter thing to them. Maybe they’ll change their minds ...
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ April 23 2018 09: 42
      +3
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I don’t think they will decide to taste ...

      Is not a fact. Recently, more and more often we have been giving reason to think that you can do anything with us. While they are afraid, Syria has shown it. But the company is "gaining momentum" in denigrating Russia and convincing itself of its own victory. Provocations will be bolder and bolder, and we will constantly wipe ourselves, and once they decide that everything is "Russia is over" ...
  8. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 23 2018 07: 45
    +3
    It’s one tooth for the Pentagon!

    US military usually talks a lot and eagerly about the Russian threat associated with great military power

    Do they have a split personality? I'm afraid here, I'm not afraid here!
  9. Altona
    Altona April 23 2018 07: 48
    +2
    If we are retarded, why are you asking for money for military expenses from your taxpayers? And if we are advanced, then put up with the fact that half of your innovative weapons are complete junk.
  10. shinobi
    shinobi April 23 2018 08: 01
    +1
    All this is for domestic consumption. They basically have adequate people who understand that they can’t sit out in case of war. And so, the dog barks, the wind wears, the caravan goes on.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ April 23 2018 09: 44
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      The military men at their core are adequate people, they understand that they will not work out in case of war.

      The military - yes, but politicians - not really. But wars begin politicians, not the military.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 23 2018 08: 16
    +3
    Who needs to know. What, where, how much and how much ... Our air defense dramatically weakens the geopolitical status of the United States. Buying countries understand that without nuclear weapons you can increase your security wassat
    Let's see how the line of these customers grows ...
  12. Shukshin
    Shukshin April 23 2018 08: 41
    +1
    The Americans pulnuli .... appreciated the result (prudence they do not take), they all understood and are now racking their brains on where to get cannon fodder in gigantic quantities.
    We, the whole world need to find a place in the minds of the young democrats so that they do not have any illusions about their place in the world in the history prepared by the Anglo-Saxons, world domination and eternal freebie.
  13. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir April 23 2018 08: 58
    +1
    in fact, in their bulk, they are Soviet, and were set back in Soviet times

    the same, to put it mildly, they are cunning .... the systems are at least modernized and are not analogues of those released in the 80s back under the USSR ..
  14. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 23 2018 09: 28
    +3
    The current hats and statements that form the image of the enemy's weakness in society are disturbing because, as history shows, they are an indispensable part of the psychological preparation of their society for war, along with the dehumanization of the enemy.

    What will change in this phrase, if you replace the word "hats"?
    "Current statements about a clear threatForming views in society about strength and power the enemy is disturbed by the fact that, as history shows, they are an indispensable part of the psychological preparation of their society for war along with the dehumanization of the enemy. "Does this phrase change its meaning? Does it become easier now? No, and again - no.

    Recall that the formation of the image of Russia as a colossus on clay feet was an indispensable event for all those who prepared the attack on our country, starting with Napoleon. Moreover, with the Nazis, their well-placed powerful propaganda played a nasty joke. At some point, the leadership of the Reich became more trusting in the materials of the Goebbels department than in the reports of Canaris's subordinates. As a result, from the very first days of the war, the German military faced many disappointments. “The large mass of weapons, their technical quality, the country's gigantic industrialization caused the first perplexing impressions that contradicted the substantial arguments of previous ideas about the Soviet Union,” the security chief and the SD reported in a secret report on the 309 number.

    It seems that the author is very concerned that the United States has ceased to take seriously its "alleged enemy." Does the author really care that if suddenly (of course, do not bring Gd!) A collision occurs, the enemy of Russia may be unprepared for this most difficult ordeal. After all, "even during the Cold War, US commanders tended to rather exaggerate the military and technical capabilities of the USSR." On the face of a clear cognitive dissonance, or, as they now like to express themselves on the BO - "gap pattern." Something that does not fit into the usual framework, of course, can not help but worry and not disturb, because
    The cognitive dissonance (from the Latin. cognitio "knowledge" and dissonantia "inconsistency", "disorientation", "lack of harmony") - the state of mental discomfort of the individual, caused by the clash in his mind conflicting ideas: ideas, beliefs, values ​​or emotional reactions.

    1. igorka357
      igorka357 April 23 2018 11: 15
      +2
      Yes, here eighty percent do not understand the meaning of what you wrote .. laughing The enemy should always be overestimated, not underestimated! It’s good if it turns out that Russian Ivan puts a platoon of Amer marines who came to take a light walk from his Kalash! And some sort of Zircon will put the Amer aircraft carrier to the bottom! Then the US soldiers will tell their generals “Fathers. .so you offered us an easy walk around Russia to mother, and it turns out they are killing us, and their weapons are modern "Then high officials in the USA will understand their mistake! But only it will be too late !!!
      1. bk316
        bk316 April 24 2018 15: 49
        +4
        Opponent should always be overestimated, not underestimated

        What a stupid thing. In propaganda of the adversary, ALWAYS UNDERSTAND. In analytics - evaluate as accurately as possible.
    2. BAI
      BAI April 23 2018 11: 19
      +3
      The United States has ceased to take seriously its "alleged adversary."

      I, as I understand it, the problem is as follows. Public opinion (which the West has to reckon with) does not support the war against a strong opponent, because this will result in unacceptable damage. For that, it will easily support the "small victorious war" (Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq). And the realization that a small war will grow into a big one will come too late, everyone will already be there under the slogan “War to a victorious end, our cause is right.” Moreover, from both (both?) Sides.
    3. credo
      credo April 23 2018 18: 05
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      It seems that the author is very concerned that the United States has ceased to take seriously its "alleged enemy." Does the author really care that if suddenly (of course, do not bring Gd!) A collision occurs, the enemy of Russia may be unprepared for this most difficult ordeal. After all, "even during the Cold War, US commanders tended to rather exaggerate the military and technical capabilities of the USSR." On the face of a clear cognitive dissonance, or, as they now like to express themselves on the BO - "gap pattern." Something that does not fit into the usual framework, of course, can not help but worry and not disturb, because

      I think you are mistaken. The author just gave an example of when excessive self-confidence goes sideways to the enemy, despite the fact that he had good enough information about the strengths and weaknesses of the USSR army. And the United States is also no exception, despite the fact that their current intelligence capabilities are orders of magnitude higher than Nazi Germany.
  15. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 23 2018 09: 48
    +3
    After Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the latest developments of the Russian military-industrial complex, all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that Russia is in fact a backward country, and its weapons are outdated and, of course, inferior to Western on most parameters.

    Inform war in this case is aimed at minimizing the effect of the presentation of the GDP of new weapons. In fact, there are no mattresses and in the near future there will be no protection from these shock complexes, therefore this hackneyed cliche is again being developed that our missiles are rusty, submarines are noisy, air defense systems are not effective, and so on ...
    And in this regard, as I have said many times before, we are losing this inform war so far.
    1. Eflintuk
      Eflintuk April 23 2018 13: 32
      +2
      1. There is no protection because there are no complexes.
      2. Mattresses themselves benefit from "cartoons of GDP" and inflating Russian "power" and threats.
  16. BAI
    BAI April 23 2018 11: 11
    0
    As if hinting at our technical backwardness.

    Underestimating the enemy is the first step to defeat (in war, in battle it is not necessary).
  17. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky April 23 2018 13: 04
    +3
    Adik Aloizych companions reasoned in a similar way. They were mistaken, and as a result, died prematurely.
  18. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 23 2018 13: 22
    +1
    all of Washington’s propaganda efforts are aimed at convincing Americans and the whole world that in reality Russia is a backward country, and its weapons are outdated and, of course, inferior to the West in most respects.

    I honestly do not care about the United States and Trump and the American propagandists!
    I am worried about the local kvass uraprapogandists! This is really a problem! And everything else is flowers.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 20
      0
      And you do not scratch, it will not bother. All-crawlers do not bother me at all.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov April 24 2018 15: 45
        0
        smile So at least comb your scales, you’ll lick all the Russian authorities. What kind of chtoli do you have?
  19. Laruss
    Laruss April 23 2018 13: 34
    0
    Nothing., In the 41st, too, were not prepared for war., And what ??? .., they drove the Nazis as lepers ...
    1. kiril-belo
      kiril-belo April 23 2018 13: 47
      +6
      41 were just ready, a huge production potential was created, the army was reformed. And now everything is much worse.
  20. daodejin
    daodejin April 23 2018 13: 41
    +1
    It’s better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate. Let them underestimate. The more underestimated, the faster they will run away.
  21. kiril-belo
    kiril-belo April 23 2018 13: 45
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Rostovchanin
    And the task of propaganda is to pull precisely the “mating” ones to their side

    Which of the "mocking ones", excuse me? Inside the country? Yes, do not care for them ... Out of the country? This is ... unrealistic and, in general, also - not very necessary.
    And by the way, this is exactly the task of propaganda, not MO.
    Quote: Rostovchanin
    MO with proofs is slow

    For such thoughts in the USSR, you would have given confession testimony about cooperation with Zanzibar intelligence. And now, you see, they are bolder - give them "proofs" ...
    Rewrite yes

    here you are wrong, everything would be in order with the proofs in the USSR, and they would have arranged a salute in honor of the interception of US missiles.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 23 2018 13: 51
      +1
      Quote: kiril-belo
      in the USSR with proofs everything would be alright

      In the sense of yields and weight gain - yes, of course.
      Quote: kiril-belo
      still would have made a salute in honor of the interception of US missiles

      In the USSR, you would know about this interception ... to a very old age. If ever you knew.
  22. gespenst45
    gespenst45 April 23 2018 14: 07
    +3
    Honestly, when our military said in their comments that our American Tomogawks clearly worked out our KUB and SQUARE air defense systems delivered by our specialists to Syria - I laughed to the point of abdominal pain! These systems were still in service with the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s! It was then that one of these systems was shot down by their much-praised pilot - saboteur Powers, shot down on May 1960, 1961 !!!! This is the air defense system for more than fifty years, and they have been working like a Swiss watch! it was precisely because of these systems that a scandal erupted in XNUMX, which almost turned into a nuclear war when we put them on Liberty Island, in Cuba! And what kind of smart missiles of America were they that were shot down with such old weapons !! ! The Yankees crap in truth!
  23. vladikod
    vladikod April 23 2018 14: 22
    +1
    And why convince the coalition of the arrogant Saxons and the micron that joined them in the opposite? ... When it comes to a serious matter ... the supriz is empty for them ... will be ...
  24. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy April 23 2018 14: 24
    +3
    Guys, stop boiling !.

    Read the article better: http://svodka.net/analitika/obozrenie/58336

    Such a full picture, as far as I remember, has not been here

    Reagan, associates defeated the "Great and Mighty", "oil conspiracy" with the Saudis, "cartoons" about missile defense (pun intended) laughing and bribing the leaders, then we already finished off our own trophy-subpassionaries .. Now, with these (our) "jackals, we learned to live and not to bite ourselves, to develop all the same .. The leaders, I think with money and other assets and small philistine buns, everything is fine, but those who want to "reign" in their power, "Old Man Makhno" show what comes of this in real life, in (and) unhappy Ukraine ..

    So, I think so, not everything has been lost. And about what to do "right now" ...
    It’s necessary to cool hotheads. And it’s not like in Syria, where only professionals get the message .. We need a demonstration for everyone !. About the same scale and degree of publicity as the Tsar-Bomb test on Novaya Zemlya in October 1961 .. Of course, the propaganda effect, equal to the military effect, was obtained then only with a simultaneous public demonstration of delivery technology (April 12, 1961) and determination get the adversary in his own den, in any situation, even by the victim of the strike (Caribbean Crisis) .. Who remembers, then. after these demonstrations, the "Moscow Festival of Youth and Students", the Exhibition of Achievements of the American National Economy "took place in Moscow, the visit of the" maize "to the United States and other demonstrative events to" ease tension "..

    Shakalya has not changed a bit since then. Jackal, takes seriously only boots on the face!
  25. demo
    demo April 23 2018 14: 51
    +3
    “Although they underwent a certain modernization in the CAA, all of these systems are irrevocably outdated. But even they, as we knowintercepted more than half of the missiles. "
    Boris Dzherelievsky!
    Personally, I, and you too, don’t know EXACTLY how many missiles were intercepted.
    From everywhere one nonsense.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 26
      +2
      There is a fact too. The airbases were not affected, although they were declared as targets.
  26. kakvastam
    kakvastam April 23 2018 15: 01
    +3
    Do not forget that in the West - both in Europe and in America - destructive processes are in full swing, which may make the scenario of slow strangulation of the Russian Federation unrealizable, especially if we assume the possibility of healing the authorities and society in our country. Since the military is forced to take into account the worst case scenario, it is not surprising that preparations are underway (both psychological and organizational) to strike while the enemy is in a state that practically guarantees his defeat.

    At the moment, our readiness to repel a serious attack, to put it mildly, is small: the Ministry of Emergencies and medicine are reorganized to a coma, state institutions. management are affected by corruption - only the army remains an island of relative prosperity. So what kind of nerd will wait for the Russian leadership to get their hands on all kinds of rear services, when it has already been shown that replacing a typical Russian manager with a sane one can lead to a radical change in the situation as soon as possible?

    So an attempt at a military solution to the Russian question is by no means excluded.
  27. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy April 23 2018 15: 06
    +2
    Quote: gespenst45
    Honestly, when our military said in their comments that our American Tomogawks clearly worked out our KUB and SQUARE air defense systems delivered by our specialists to Syria - I laughed to the point of abdominal pain! These systems were still in service with the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s! It was then that one of these systems was shot down by their much-praised pilot - saboteur Powers, shot down on May 1960, 1961 !!!! This is the air defense system for more than fifty years, and they have been working like a Swiss watch! it was precisely because of these systems that a scandal erupted in XNUMX, which almost turned into a nuclear war when we put them on Liberty Island, in Cuba! And what kind of smart missiles of America were they that were shot down with such old weapons !! ! The Yankees crap in truth!


    As they say "in the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev the uncle" .. lol
    K2-12 Cube and Square "(square - export version)" is a military. Self-propelled on a caterpillar chassis, medium-height anti-aircraft missile system, and Powers was shot down by the Volga S-75, although it’s mobile (mobile), but it’s a stationary-deployed air defense system long range. Feel the difference? (He was caught on a practical ceiling U2

    The task is, first, the operational protection of troops from an air attack on the march, the task of the second is the protection of troops and stationary and positional basing areas, permanent aerodromes and submarine bases in defense and in peacetime ..

    Well, it is unlikely that even the S-75 in Cuba would have scared the Americans .. They began to hysteria when medium-range missiles were sent there, which easily reached Fushington!
  28. Calabi Yau
    Calabi Yau April 23 2018 15: 21
    +2
    Quote: ROSS_Ulair
    Yes, they simply no longer imagine what war is in conditions when there is no total superiority of their own aircraft in the sky. When the enemy has helicopters and tactical bombers. IMHO, on their AUG, 95 percent of the ammunition is air-to-land, and only some minimum (or even not at all) of defensive and offensive air-to-air ... For aircraft carriers - have long become floating airfields for bombing barmalei


    Dear, you are talking about the composition of the AUG, about destroyers such as "Airlie Burke", about their BIUS read) at least look into Vika before launching your hat into low Earth orbit)
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 16: 33
      +2
      No one will fight with them on their terms. Attach nuclear explosions in their defense zone, turn off air defense, drop aircraft at sea and work out for targets. ACG will be eliminated only by nuclear means in conditions of a general nuclear war. Not earlier.
      1. G A_2
        G A_2 April 24 2018 05: 43
        0
        Quote: meandr51
        No one will fight with them on their terms. Attach nuclear explosions in their defense zone, turn off air defense, drop aircraft at sea and work out for targets. ACG will be eliminated only by nuclear means in conditions of a general nuclear war. Not earlier.

  29. lionov1967
    lionov1967 April 23 2018 15: 38
    +4
    I do not believe that the States are so stupid and so on and so forth. Everything is simpler and worse. And the percentage cannot be raised, since enterprises will not pull and go bankrupt - and budget expenditures cannot be reduced, since without such demand bankruptcy again. And to print with inflation - the public debt will fall apart. Therefore, there is only one way out - war as a force majeure with a corresponding way out of the problems. And enough for Trump to pay attention. This is all gorgeous. but window dressing. And all the super-jaws are spinning Wilbur Ross as Minister of Economics and Steve Mnuchin as Minister of Finance. This spit on Trump. Therefore, if they gave the go-ahead for force majeure, then the whole point is precisely in the threat of default.
  30. Anatoly Yakovlev
    Anatoly Yakovlev April 23 2018 16: 17
    +1
    ... drown their aircraft carrier like the Vietnamese
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 23 2018 23: 37
      +2
      Quote: Anatoly Yakovlev
      ... drown their aircraft carrier like the Vietnamese

      Where do these tales come from? On the Forrestol aircraft carrier, a fire happened a year later, they returned to service. What kind of fairy tales
  31. geniy
    geniy April 23 2018 16: 26
    +3
    Quote: konstantin68
    The West already once defeated a much stronger rival, the USSR. They also intend to defeat Russia.

    No! Not the West defeated the USSR, but we defeated ourselves, that is, we destroyed it!
    In fact, it was that the communist propaganda imposed on the people the one and only “right” line - ascetic behavior: in particular, the absence of sex, modesty in everyday life, and a decrease in material needs. But Gorbachev simply reduced the pressure of censorship, and allowed him to criticize the Communist Party and glorify the achievements of capitalism in the material sphere. And then almost all the people as a pendulum swung in the direction opposite from socialism.
  32. dDYHA
    dDYHA April 23 2018 16: 45
    +7
    March cast of China to Lake Baikal. In a couple of days they’ll get to. (At the same time, to the Vladivostok region with a preliminary deployment of forces that already have a landing force there. And all the guys. And we are all afraid of America. We don’t have the strength to protect the country. No! We can only play muscle for suckers in Syria .
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 18: 10
      +2
      Learn Chinese. Useful for you.
    2. digitalcn75
      digitalcn75 April 23 2018 23: 07
      +3
      Irkutsk and Baikal are just an intermediate goal. In the event of a massive cast march of numerous and well-equipped Chinese armies, they will be ordered to move to the Ob basin, and possibly develop a strike to the Irtysh basin with the capture of Omsk. It will be possible to stop these hordes only with the help of tactical nuclear weapons. Will we hit our territory? They need Siberia, preferably all. And its capture, and at the same time part of the Far East, is already ongoing, while peaceful. The locals will not let you lie: there are already dozens, if not hundreds, of Chinese settlements. And we are friends with them. DBL BLD.
    3. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 23 2018 23: 11
      +4
      Quote: dDYHA
      March cast of China to Lake Baikal ...

      Quote: digitalcn75
      In the case of a massive march of the Chinese armored armies ...

      I don’t understand - did they spend the Internet in a yellow house? request
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 23 2018 23: 13
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        I don’t understand - did they spend the Internet in a yellow house?

        Duc .... These are the roommates of Andryushka Shironov ....
        laughing
        1. Not in the system
          Not in the system April 24 2018 17: 18
          +1
          Where do you come from, such excessively self-confident. And I forgot, you’re all from Europe (in the sense of the European part of the country), and for all, “just - Ilyich” and “Golovan Jack” - the Krasnoyarsk Territory, Irkutsk Region, the Republic of Sakha - it’s somewhere outside the Urals, like "our pantry", from where you can always take something you need and put there any unnecessary stuff. But you (Europeans) should put pressure on us (native Siberians and Far Easterners). It seems to you that China is your friend. We (Siberians and Far East) perfectly see that China is no friend. The USA for us (Siberians and Far East) is some kind of ephemeral threat (the DPRK was frightened of the petty), but China is a very real threat.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 24 2018 17: 20
            0
            Quote: Not in the system
            Where do you come from

            From where and all .....
            Judging by your name, the raven brought you ... The stork refused .... laughing
            1. Not in the system
              Not in the system April 24 2018 17: 31
              +2
              I am inclined to agree with one of the participants that there are a lot of propaganda propagandists. Like, "we’ll show Kuz'kin mother." :) Yeah. Cartoons Putin seen enough about the ever-flying rocket in a nuclear reactor? : D And they thought that it would be possible to launch such a rocket only when the exchange of nuclear strikes had already begun and when it was all the same? Because such missiles (developed back in the Union) leave such a radioactive trail during a flight! ..
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 24 2018 17: 24
            0
            Quote: Not in the system
            "simply - Ilyich" and "Golovan Jack" - Krasnoyarsk Territory, Irkutsk Region, Republic of Sakha -

            Can’t you just ask? Golovan lives in the suburbs.
            1. Not in the system
              Not in the system April 25 2018 09: 48
              +1
              What to ask? I said that he lives in Europe. The suburbs - this is Europe, is a kind of metropolis, together with Moscow. Another state, which looks down on the rest of the country and scornfully scoffs through its teeth.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 10: 23
                0
                Quote: Not in the system
                I said that he lives in Europe. The suburbs - this is Europe, is a kind of metropolis, together with Moscow. Another state, which looks down on the rest of the country and scornfully scoffs through its teeth.

                Well, you know ... You bent it all. For two years, Roman was looking for normal work.
                1. Not in the system
                  Not in the system April 25 2018 14: 46
                  +1
                  And how should it touch me? You argue about whether the US will attack with its satellites and dominions in Russia or not. Do not attack. The gut is thin. China will not attack openly either. China is waiting for a moment, about the same as Poland in the late 30s - early 40s. of the last century, when Poland bit off on the sly from Czechoslovakia the Tieszyn region. Here China will wait for a big mess in the Russian Federation and, under the guise (like Poland), chop off Siberia and the Far East. Why the hell trains with Chinese military equipment already in the Urals? Russians from the Far East and Siberia are leaving for the European part of Russia (I am not leaving and I will not leave in principle), exposing these regions (for whom, for the Chinese).
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 14: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: Not in the system
                    Russians from the Far East and Siberia are leaving for the European part of Russia (I am not leaving and I will not leave in principle), exposing these regions (for whom, for the Chinese).

                    My dear uncle moved from Primorsky Krai to Krasnodar a few years ago. He lived there 2 years, and left back. In Primorye. Magadan Region. repeat He did not like it in the village of the Krasnodar Territory. The climate is not the same, and Ukrainians are full. laughing
          3. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 24 2018 17: 27
            +2
            Go to the psyche to heal. Then come in.
            To refute all the nonsense that you have here mixed - neither time nor desire.
            1. Not in the system
              Not in the system April 25 2018 09: 51
              +1
              Wow. :) How much offended. :) The truth does not need to be offended. I politely communicate and do not poke anyone. :) The psyche must be treated Moskalnoe, imagining the rest of the country's population cattle.
  33. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 23 2018 17: 17
    +1
    Mattress workers raised the economy due to two world wars. They, nosebleeds, need a third. Again in Europe ... laughing tongue wassat
  34. Mih1974
    Mih1974 April 23 2018 17: 20
    +1
    I already wrote in another commentary, but I think it’s necessary to repeat - “Russia needs to put a little something on Kuzusbell (an excuse for war) unnecessary country and bomb it to the level of the radioactive desert "". This will show and scare the West, save them from the illusion that we are ready to surrender to the Nazis as the French. It’s not enough to show that we have weapons, we need to show that we “have eggs”, because while there is an opinion there and sometimes they voice it “your elite is not yours, while its money and children are with us”.
    Only real testimony and conviction of THEM in their death from our weapons can stop them.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 23 2018 18: 11
      0
      This is the principle of "Beat your own, so that strangers are afraid." Best of all is Switzerland. All accounts are automatically reset.
  35. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy April 23 2018 17: 31
    +1
    Quote: Mih1974
    I already wrote in another commentary, but I think it’s necessary to repeat - “Russia needs to put a little something on Kuzusbell (an excuse for war) unnecessary country and bomb it to the level of the radioactive desert "". This will show and scare the West, save them from the illusion that we are ready to surrender to the Nazis as the French. It’s not enough to show that we have weapons, we need to show that we “have eggs”, because while there is an opinion there and sometimes they voice it “your elite is not yours, while its money and children are with us”.
    Only real testimony and conviction of THEM in their death from our weapons can stop them.


    I think it will be enough for one American submarine to "accidentally swim into our territorial waters" and to "accidentally" hit missile torpedoes ...

    Ashes of Kursk beats in my heart!
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 25 2018 03: 54
      +1
      I would be glad to agree, but during the Soviet era we and their planes shot down both Vietnam and Korea, but all this did not stop them. Few people know, but in addition to the "Caribbean crisis" there was another, much more dangerous, I don’t remember the details, but our submarines were ordered to "drown ALL" in certain areas of the Indian Ocean. Who then warned the ships located there on air and thereby essentially prevented even the very possibility of fulfilling the order, and if it would have been carried out and a nuclear war could have really begun, we don’t know.
      Why did I write about the "small, unnecessary country" because even if we drown an American aircraft carrier, it will be wild boiling, but nothing more. Only a full-fledged and very scary use of nuclear weapons can bring these American (or rather world rich) to life.
      Ideally, Naglia is suitable, this is an island, that is, full localization and “no neighbors hooked”, according to rumors, they crumbled there during the flight of our “strategists” and somehow casually mentioned that at that moment ALL of their submarines with nuclear missiles were at the joke, that is - it was possible to multiply them with impunity by zero. Naglia does not represent great value to the World, neither cultural nor technological, and when the question is “how to save the world from sliding into a nuclear war with everyone”, then the “final solution of the English question” can be considered an “acceptable victim”. sad
      Yes, yes, I understand everything and see HOW the Russian government behaves negative how they walk in front of the Fed and others like him, how they are going to “support the poor oligarchs,” etc. And that my proposal will never be realized. Well, it’s even easier for me - the only heir is the Cat, they will bring the whole world to Armagedon - I won’t lose much.
  36. Stavr Godinovich
    Stavr Godinovich April 23 2018 20: 23
    0
    And let's try - not only there will be no teeth, but the eggs will fall off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  37. smart ass
    smart ass April 23 2018 21: 01
    0
    Water, water, water, article by nothing
  38. Peter Washington
    Peter Washington April 23 2018 21: 32
    0
    Yes, it exploded in mattresses and naglosakov not childishly
  39. Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod April 23 2018 21: 49
    +1
    Yeah, rusty ... Old, hell will heal if pressed)))))
  40. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 April 23 2018 22: 46
    0
    There is only one way to find out whose weapon is better: a real clash using these types of weapons, and better for reliability and comprehensive analysis, a complex of clashes in different weather, time and other conditions, i.e., in fact, war. Everything else like that: “has no analogues”, “far surpasses foreign analogues”, etc. on either side, either amateurism or misinformation.
  41. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira April 23 2018 22: 59
    +1
    We behave incorrectly in a situation where we are being primitized. We constantly catch up, constantly make the second move, but we must take the first! So we are late in the ruin, so we constantly recoup with amers. We don’t have Goebbels today .... but it's a pity!
  42. Akv_spb
    Akv_spb April 24 2018 02: 54
    0
    Yes, the whole elite of America loves to know the exact alignment of forces, as we do them, because intelligence services exist for that. And all this controversy to set up the people against us. But there will still be no real war. Just another arms race. A pretext is needed to receive funds.
  43. Akv_spb
    Akv_spb April 24 2018 02: 56
    +1
    Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    We behave incorrectly in a situation where we are being primitized. We constantly catch up, constantly make the second move, but we must take the first! So we are late in the ruin, so we constantly recoup with amers. We don’t have Goebbels today .... but it's a pity!

    Yes, the first move is simply necessary, and our president will make it sooner or later
  44. edmak
    edmak April 24 2018 05: 56
    0
    Strange article. The evidence base is that "the cap-hatred mood of the United States is similar to what happened before the war, then everything is in order."
    Or maybe not okay? Maybe they are right?
    1 - We have a crisis, rising unemployment. If the defense is working, then where is it? Where, after all, is the “by-product” of the defense industry?
    2 - A simple fact: two unexploded American cruise missiles were transported to Russia from Syria for study. https://www.pnp.ru/politics/stala-izvestna-sudba-
    popavshikh-v-rf-iz-sirii-amerikanskikh-raket.html
    ? utm_referrer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com
    They flew by. They were not shot down. Two definitely did not shoot! Maybe they didn’t bring down the rest.
    And what kind of "shield" is one that misses 30%? How do you like the armor of a tank that misses 30%? Good tank
    Apparently, there are serious problems in Russia. Extremely serious. And not taking them seriously ... is puzzling. Technical backwardness leads to vain human casualties. And when you consider that our children are potential victims ....
    1. KaPToC
      KaPToC April 24 2018 22: 05
      +1
      Quote: edmak
      Apparently, there are serious problems in Russia.

      Apparently you have serious problems with attitude.
      Quote: edmak
      They flew by. They were not shot down. Two definitely did not shoot! Maybe they didn’t bring down the rest.

      You are told Russian in white shot down 70 of 112 missiles EMNIP.
      Quote: edmak
      And what kind of "shield" is one that misses 30%? How do you like the armor of a tank that misses 30%? Good tank

      An excellent shield, withstanding two out of three hits is an excellent result.
      Quote: edmak
      And when you consider that our children are potential victims ....

      Do you have them?
  45. link
    link April 24 2018 06: 08
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    Write about Skripals. I am very worried about their condition ... I don’t understand why they were poisoned. )))
    PS Is not enough TV for you? Still here to read any garbage ...
  46. Sedoi zmei
    Sedoi zmei April 24 2018 12: 13
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    Quote: Akv_spb
    Yes, the first move is simply necessary, and our president will make it sooner or later

    I really want our president to make a "move"! But for now, these “moves” vary between TREATMENT and STRONG TREATMENT! I don’t really know what is going to happen so that we finally ... express our EXTREME CONCERN!
    1. antivirus
      antivirus April 24 2018 21: 28
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      it’s better - SILENCE TO DO WHAT WE NEED, TO BE BELIEVED AND FOR ANOTHER TIME ... words-
      vary between CARE and STRONG CARE

      but this is the end of all words from the second (LIBrezhnev) detente and "convergence" - from YuVandropov to "sovereign democracy" - the end of 2000
      30 years swept their tracks and did not believe their own words?
  47. The poor man
    The poor man April 24 2018 12: 29
    +1
    Why should we worry about the fact that they compose about us there. Let them imagine what they want, but we are better. There is no need to persuade (in vain to blow steam on the whistle, since you cannot prove anything to anyone) and you don't have to boast of your weapons. It’s just that all of us Russians need to do well what each of us should do in their place, and the result will not slow down. To carry out more developments of new technology on the basis of new achievements of world science, so that the adversary could not even figure out the ideas inherent in the designs. Then, we will have prosperity and unprecedented development of the state, and no one will even think of calling our beloved Russia backward.
  48. certero
    certero April 24 2018 14: 49
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    Quote: Rostovchanin
    Our propaganda is lagging behind. MO with proofs is slow, people are always divided into 3 categories, FOR, AGAINST and "DARK". And the task of propaganda is to pull precisely the “mating” ones to their side

    So in the days of the Union, instead of the Propaganda of achievements, secrecy was stupid. There are rockets shot down. Show pictures, even if they are not, show pictures anyway. Only high quality.
  49. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust April 24 2018 15: 55
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    Putin showed the world a cartoon, thinking that this would seriously convince NATO of the military power of the Russian Federation. But, as practice has shown, saving on propaganda only makes people laugh. I remember how in the 50s and 60s, bottle-shaped rocket models were carried around in parades on Red Square. In real life, such missiles did not reach the United States. But everyone believed that!
    And now you can’t take a pont. There are no fools.
  50. rsva2012
    rsva2012 April 24 2018 20: 11
    +1
    "" A large mass of weapons, its technical quality, giant industrialization of the country the first impressed us were the ones that contradicted the essential arguments of previous ideas about the Soviet Union, ”the chief of the security police and SD said in a secret report under number 309."
    But just with "industrialization" we now have a problem. Starting with Gorbachev, precision engineering was practically destroyed. And what kind of "import substitution" can we say if we do our armament on imported machines?