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The Pentagon may leave the carrier group in the Mediterranean

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The US Navy aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" may remain in the Mediterranean to "contain" Russia, and as a reminder to Assad of the inadmissibility of the use of chemical weapons, reports RIA News Defense News magazine post.




A final decision has not yet been made, but it would be “a response to Russia's actions in the region and would correspond to the new National Security Strategy,” the publication writes citing sources.

The magazine also emphasizes that Harry Truman, who heads the carrier group, may once again remind the Syrian leader Bashar Assad of warning the American President Donald Trump that “the continued use of chemical weapons against civilians in Syria will lead to new shelling. "

According to sources, the Pentagon is considering the possibility of leaving the ship group in the region, even though this may disrupt the order of rotation of aircraft carriers in the Middle East. It is believed that the fight against the “challenges emerging from Russia” in the Mediterranean is a more important task.

Recall, April 11 US Navy strike group led by the aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" went from Norfolk (Virginia) to the Middle East to attack Syria.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 22 2018 08: 05
    +12
    Great simulator for Russian submarines.
    Well done Trumpy.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 11
      +11
      So there are their Virginia. Plus, one of the partners also sent his own.

      But if on an ongoing basis - then the Black Sea Fleet has problems with the allocation of forces for typical tracking. There only 4 of the ship can it before the end of the year (this is if Ladny does not leave to the right) - two frigates + Savvy and Inquisitive. Okay to join in after the repair at the end of the year. In the summer, another frigate should come.

      But now all the BSF BSFs are at 100% in BS. Both frigates and both guard. Plus, the Wise is in a hurry to help.
      1. Chertt
        Chertt April 22 2018 08: 13
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        so there are their virginia. Plus, one of the partners also sent his own.

        Based on how unstable and "military active" the Mediterranean region has become thanks to the activities of the United States and its vassals, the idea is very logical. Apparently, military conflicts there will only intensify and new ones will arise.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana April 22 2018 08: 24
          +1
          It is believed that the fight against the “emerging challenges from Russia” in the Mediterranean is a more important task.

          So it would be immediately in the "Washington Regional Committee" and "chewed"! And then Trump stealthily everything "mumbles" and "mumbles" about some interests there US national security in BV due to the alleged presence of Assad's chemical weapons!

          Trump! Where is the United States geographically - and where is the ATS with its Assad? !!! fool Surely, many Americans themselves do not even know about it! No. And what does the US Armed Forces and the US Navy flotilla in the Mediterranean really do there? angry
          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 22 2018 08: 29
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            So it would immediately chew in the "Washington Regional Committee"!

            If they are in the Washington Regional Committee, accidentally tell the truth, they will experience anaphylactic shock. Their body is not ready for this.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana April 22 2018 08: 39
              +1
              Quote: Chertt
              If they are in the Washington Regional Committee, accidentally tell the truth, they will experience anaphylactic shock. Their body is not ready for this.

              Ha! The state of Anglo-Saxon pirates for more than 300 years has always been like this!
              1. Chertt
                Chertt April 22 2018 08: 45
                +2
                Quote: Tatiana
                Ha! For more than 300 years, the states of Anglo-Saxon pirates have always been so!

                Therefore, when they say that the Anglo-Saxon and Russian worlds, these are civilizations antagonists, this is completely true.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox April 22 2018 09: 08
          +5
          Apparently, military conflicts there will only intensify and new ones will arise.
          .
          This is a constant reminder of Russia about how much we at the Black Sea Fleet (also the SM theater) lack at least one URO cruiser, a pair of URO destroyers and 3-5 URO-PVO frigates in order to keep at least Kuzyu there.
          Of course, we still need a division called the Syrian Express, but not from the old BDKs, but from the dock ships, that is, from the vessels capable of transporting aircraft such as front-mounted bombers (without planes). All this under the assumption that ALL overseas allied territories will provide us with naval and anti-aircraft missiles, so that even in this Russia does not resemble US aircraft carriers of the colonial times, bearing in mind that today the AUG is above all excellent and very sweet in military in the political sense, a target whose defeat is capable of any nation (especially American schizoid!) lead into a funeral mood for very long periods of time (remember the Vietnamese syndrome of the 70-80s in the USA)
          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 22 2018 09: 23
            +1
            It seemed to me that you advanced the thesis, and you yourself denied it
            Quote: hydrox
            This is a constant reminder of Russia about how much we at the Black Sea Fleet (also the SM theater) lack at least one URO cruiser, a pair of URO destroyers and 3-5 URO-PVO frigates in order to keep at least Kuzyu there.

            .
            Quote: hydrox
            bearing in mind that the AUG today is, above all, an excellent and very sweet target in the military-political sense

            And why do we need an expensive floating airfield plus escort if we use ground based on a percentage of the possible
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 22 2018 14: 41
              +1
              Quote: Chertt
              And why do we need an expensive floating airfield plus escort if we use ground based on a percentage of the possible

              Absolutely!
              The cruisers of the URO, AUG and others like them, are ships of the ocean zone ... and in this case naval combat is not appropriate (it will be unprofitable) For these cases, we have Tu-22M2,3,3M specially trained for such purposes ...
        3. Lelek
          Lelek April 22 2018 12: 05
          +1
          Quote: Chertt
          Apparently, military conflicts there will only intensify and new ones will arise.

          hi
          And not only military conflicts between countries, but also internal clashes between clans and faiths. The other day, it was reported that such a riffraff occurred among the Saudis. East is a delicate matter... .
      2. avt
        avt April 22 2018 08: 33
        +3
        Quote: donavi49
        But if on an ongoing basis - then the Black Sea Fleet has problems with the allocation of forces for typical tracking.

        request For tracking, it’s generally desirable, in addition to the A-50, to have an analog of Poseidon’s
        1. hydrox
          hydrox April 22 2018 09: 21
          0
          For tracking, it’s generally desirable, in addition to the A-50, to have an analog of Poseidon’s

          In fact, starting this year, the MO will receive at least one / year A-100 “Premier” (I don’t know how many sets of denyuh will be enough!) - without such machines, network-centric operations will be practically impossible. So, after all, the Americans will come to their senses and come to their senses when they realize that Russia has already left the era of bast shoes ...
          1. avt
            avt April 22 2018 10: 03
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            In fact, starting this year, the MO will receive at least one / year A-100 "Premier"

            Actually, Az is about something else. Or can the A-100 already track submarines? wassat Then really missed something.
      3. next322
        next322 April 22 2018 08: 51
        +3
        It’s time to drag Moscow and Petra into tow in Tartus and let them wait for repairs ..
      4. san4es
        san4es April 22 2018 09: 34
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        So there are their Virginia. Plus, one of the partners also sent his own.
        But if on an ongoing basis, then the Black Sea Fleet has problems.

        hi For the translation sorry:
        Quick Facts:
        - The HSTCSG consists of a Nimitz USS Harry S. Truman class aircraft carrier (CVN 75); ticonderoga-class missile cruiser USS Normandy (CG 60); Arly Burke-class missile destroyers USS Farragut (DDG 99), USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98), USS Bulkeley (DDG 84) and USS arleigh Burke (DDG 51), along with aircraft carrier emboked 8, (CVW) 1 and destroyer squadron ( DESRON) 28. Aircraft squadrons include a strike fighter squadron (VFA) 11; VFA-81; VFA-136; VFA-211; electronic attack squadron (VAQ) 137; Early Warning Squadron (WWA) 126; Helicopter Marine Squadron strike (HSM) 72; Helicopter Naval Combat Squadron (HSC) 11; and a squadron of the Fleet’s Logistics Support Squadron (VRC) 40. The German Saxe-class frigate FGS Hessen (f 221) also operates as part of the strike group at the initial deployment stage. Arly Burke class destroyers USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109) and Sullivans USS (DDG 68) will be deployed and attached to the strike group later.
        “Truman left the Norfolk Naval Station on April 11 for a regular scheduled deployment.” hi

        http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=1
        05206
      5. figwam
        figwam April 22 2018 10: 50
        0
        donavi49

        There’s our RTOs too. And before the end of the month RTOs "Vyshny Volochek" will be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet.
      6. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 22 2018 12: 15
        +2
        Quote: donavi49
        But now all the BSF BSFs are at 100% in BS. Both frigates and both guard. Plus, the Wise is in a hurry to help.

        Our marine grouping, in comparison with the grouping of mattresses and allies, is slightly in different weight categories. So now the problems are being revealed when the fleet was financed and built on a residual basis, and not priority.
        If you imagine for a second that the USSR would do it, now there were 15 submarines in our area, a couple of cruisers with destroyers, and 10 frigates ... while there would be an order of magnitude more aviation than there are now.
      7. Vita vko
        Vita vko April 22 2018 17: 11
        0
        A good and rare opportunity for the Russian Navy to practice and conduct exercises directly in the vicinity of potential targets. And then the American AUG are embarrassed to go into the Black Sea and the North Seas. This is even better than the latest “smart” cruise missiles “donated” to us in Syria.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 22 2018 08: 11
      +7
      Quote: Livonetc
      Great simulator for Russian submarines.

      Well, just a simulator. Rather cat and mouse
      To combat enemy submarines, the aircraft carrier strike group includes the anti-submarine defense division, includes an anti-submarine defense helicopter carrier (anti-submarine defense), and a group of support ships - up to 6-8 destroyers or patrol ships, also with means for detecting and suppressing enemy submarines.
    3. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP April 22 2018 08: 13
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Great simulator for Russian submarines.

      Definitely not missed ....
      And it would be nice if they would drive (“Varshavyanka”) this trough in the Mediterranean puddle to reports from the personnel with wishes would return to mattress and quickly ...
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    5. vorobey
      vorobey April 22 2018 08: 21
      +4
      Quote: Livonetc
      Great trainer


      Simulator simulator .. Do you remember the name of the president who bombed Hiroshima?

      These as a reminder sent him to us .. like remember and be afraid .. am am

      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 22 2018 08: 26
        +7
        The Pentagon may leave the carrier group in the Mediterranean
        forever .. as entertainment .. for divers.
    6. RASKAT
      RASKAT April 22 2018 08: 37
      +4
      What is the use of an aircraft carrier? His planes have no long-range cruise missiles. Snooping around in Syria will be even worse than with the Tamagavkas. And for our submarines an excellent goal, it’s hard to miss such a fool.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 22 2018 08: 40
        +7
        Quote: RASKAT
        His planes have no long-range cruise missiles.

        The AUG has up to four guided missile weapon cruisers (URA), two or three destroyers or frigate URO, the 1-2 multipurpose nuclear submarines,
        1. RASKAT
          RASKAT April 22 2018 08: 49
          +3
          The AUG has up to four guided missile weapon cruisers (URA), two or three destroyers or frigate URO, the 1-2 multipurpose nuclear submarines,
          Yes, this is all clear, even the fact that the aircraft carrier will primarily be used as headquarters. I question its usefulness in the fight against Syria, and I don’t think that they will use aviation directly, shot down missiles are one thing, dead pilots are another.
          Yeah, well, Syria lacks a couple of three submarines, even diesel, to other countries this is science. For the same Iran, for example, in their place I would order a few from us right now.
      2. Don
        Don April 22 2018 09: 11
        +8
        Quote: RASKAT
        What is the use of an aircraft carrier? His planes have no long-range cruise missiles. Snooping around in Syria will be even worse than with the Tamagavkas. And for our submarines an excellent goal, it’s hard to miss such a fool.

        Correctly! Caps, caps throw enemy carrier squadron lol
    7. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 22 2018 18: 02
      0
      Quote: Livonetc
      Great simulator for Russian submarines.
      Well done Trumpy.

      So the answer will be on carriers wholesale and retail. drinks
    8. gippernano
      gippernano April 23 2018 06: 52
      0
      This is the answer to economic sanctions against the Russian Federation. Every day in a campaign of such a group, this is the annual budget of such superpowers as Ukraine.
      Well, train for one fun.
  2. 210ox
    210ox April 22 2018 08: 08
    +3
    It already was .. In the days of the USSR .. Nothing new.
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 22 2018 08: 38
      +2
      I agree, the usual fuss of striped cockroaches. yes But among the people patriotism must be supported, otherwise uncomfortable questions will begin. hi
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 22 2018 08: 42
        +2
        And then yes ... In principle, nothing new .. It was already .. During the Soviet Union ... That would not have been asked uncomfortable questions .. yes hi
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        I agree, the usual fuss of striped cockroaches. yes But among the people patriotism must be supported, otherwise uncomfortable questions will begin. hi
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO April 22 2018 09: 20
          +1
          Capitalism turned out to be more “progressive” than socialism. Now it is necessary to load the people with additional burdens on the topic of patriotism — an irreplaceable one. winked
  3. donavi49
    donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 14
    +13
    Actually in Syria - Kalamunsky squeezed. The whole tank battle surrendered. The largest and potentially combat-ready group (most of the tank battalion’s battalion was recruited from the army of defectors in Damascus and the surrounding area) armored vehicles ceased to exist - without having been in battle. In parades only laughing

    Here he threatens Damascus.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 15
      +8
      But after the point of sending donkeys with bucks and sincere conversations with representatives of the center.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 16
        +6
        Even the PTRC Zelzal-2 passed - those who did not shoot in Damascus.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 18
          +3
          Actually, only Rastan remained from the large enclaves within the territory of Assad.


          1. Chertt
            Chertt April 22 2018 08: 26
            +1
            And what did they sit there between Damascus and Homs? Waiting for whose top will be
          2. RASKAT
            RASKAT April 22 2018 08: 51
            +1
            And the boiler near Homsam doesn’t feel very well either, the third part has almost been cut off from it.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 56
              +2
              Rastan is between Hama and Homs. He is being squeezed. But so far not very active. About 20 villages were returned. Where voluntarily with weapons in a minibus to Idlib. Where by force.

              But it needs to be cleaned. It blocks M5. That is, now on M5 Damascus Homs only works. If the enclave is cleaned up Damascus-Homs-Hama, and Hama is one of the economic centers now - for the city did not know the fights and was completely preserved.

              More importantly (despite the low development of railway in Syria) - Rastan blocks railway communication on the only branch Damascus-Homs-Hama-Aleppo. Which is already cleaned and safe in the most important area of ​​Hama Aleppo.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 22 2018 08: 23
          +3
          Quote: donavi49
          Even the PTRC Zelzal-2 passed - those who did not shoot in Damascus.

          She is Iranian. Trophy?
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 33
            +2
            There was a unit armed with these OTRKs before the war. All material things passed to the broads. But there was some kind of problem with the launchers (perhaps they managed to escape). Therefore, they made their own.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak April 22 2018 08: 42
              +3
              Quote: donavi49
              But there was some kind of problem with the launchers (maybe they managed to escape)

              Her native launcher is a makeshift and looks like
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 22 2018 08: 21
      +3
      I’m wondering HOW did the tank battalion appear at the barmaley? Betrayed and deserted along with the equipment from the SAA? Well, then they have no fighting qualities .. There were.
      Quote: donavi49
      Actually in Syria - Kalamunsky squeezed. The whole tank battle surrendered. The largest and potentially combat-ready group (most of the tank battalion’s battalion was recruited from the army of defectors in Damascus and the surrounding area) armored vehicles ceased to exist - without having been in battle. In parades only laughing

      Here he threatens Damascus.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 April 22 2018 08: 31
        +3
        Yes. When everything fell in the beginning. They almost 50 tanks took + army depots in the mountains. Plus these OTRK. Partially l / s was formed from the local army - who ran to the broads, partly from Damascus (there were also a lot of tank defectors, but there were few tanks).
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 22 2018 08: 32
        +4
        still add a photo: normal garages ...
      3. vorobey
        vorobey April 22 2018 08: 40
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        Betrayed and deserted along with the equipment from the SAA? Well, then they have no fighting qualities .. There were.


        why were ... laughing east is a delicate matter .. and there to betray it not to betray it is farsighted to take the side of another ally laughing

        print hmeimim and tartus and in three weeks the barmalei will control 90 percent of the territory
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 22 2018 08: 31
      +3
      Quote: donavi49
      Actually in Syria - Kalamunsky squeezed. The whole tank battle surrendered. The largest group of armored vehicles ceased to exist

      It is precisely these “successes” that make the mattresses drive their vessels to the shores of Syria and come up with reasons like a “chemical attack” for striking Assad. They cannot openly say that they are beating in Syria in revenge for the defeat of terrorists. Now, no matter how many ships they catch in Middle-earth, this only leads to a situation that unambiguously increases the risk for the ship group itself. Closely becomes there.
    4. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 22 2018 11: 44
      0
      The whole tank battle surrendered. The largest and potentially combat-ready group (most of the tank battalion’s battalion was recruited from the army of the defectors of Damascus and the surrounding area) armored vehicles ceased to exist
      Yes, almost 30 tanks surrendered.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 22 2018 08: 18
    +3
    US Navy aircraft carrier Harry Truman may remain in the Mediterranean Sea to “contain” Russia, and as a reminder to Assad

    would decide ... to "deter" Russia or to "intimidate" Assad? chasing two hares, you won’t catch a single one ...
    1. Chertt
      Chertt April 22 2018 08: 37
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      would decide ... to "deter" Russia or to "intimidate" Assad? chasing two hares, you won’t catch a single one ...

      There are not even two or three. Americans and "partners" blew up the entire region. So far, only the north of the Mediterranean is relatively calm. But judging by the flows of refugees and other news, it’s not for long
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya April 22 2018 08: 52
        +1
        Quote: Chertt
        There are not even two or three.

        when will it break them already? from the desire to embrace the immense ... recourse
        1. Chertt
          Chertt April 22 2018 08: 58
          +1
          Quote: Masya Masya
          when will it break them already?

          As the saying goes, "Your words ..." wink
          We are working (seemingly) on this slowly
  5. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk April 22 2018 08: 25
    +2
    Yes, it’s expensive, even for pin.dos, to keep AUG on a post basis there, they stand, and they will dump laughing
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 22 2018 08: 27
      +3
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      Yes, it’s expensive, even for pin dos,

      Draw as needed
      1. Yaro Polk
        Yaro Polk April 22 2018 08: 29
        +3
        Let them draw, they spoil their reputation to the end laughing
  6. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 22 2018 08: 32
    +1
    I think this AUG will be left to put pressure on Turkey ... Erdogan accuses the USA of pressure and threats.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 22 2018 08: 43
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I think this AUG will be left to put pressure on Turkey ... Erdogan accuses the USA of pressure and threats.

      Yes, the Turks are now the main problem of the states in this region, but Erdogan has cleared the borders, so for now there is no one to throw at Turkey. But they will frighten and exert pressure, during this period they will try to spoil in Syria in order to rock a new conflict. hi
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 22 2018 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: XXXIII
        Yes, the Turks are now the main problem of the states in this region,

        And very serious ..! It’s one thing to poison Russia and Iran in the BV, and another thing is when Turkey (a NATO member) has entered into a battle and is getting out of the control of the West! Especially when Putin made his first visit to Turkey and the worst (for Israel))) Iran was present there and we came to some sort of agreement on joint actions on BV heh heh
        Heater is our GDP .. Good luck! hi
    2. hydrox
      hydrox April 22 2018 09: 40
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I think this AUG will be left to put pressure on Turkey ... Erdogan accuses the USA of pressure and threats.

      Something I strongly doubt that Russia will agree to have such a hefty group in almost its near rear (conducting hostilities on several fronts at once) that surpasses ALL of our and allied forces in a one-time bombing line.
      Especially taking into account the vastness of Russian interests and allied capabilities and demands in this region.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 22 2018 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        exceeding in a single bomb along with ALL of our and allied forces.

        Russia is not Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya ..! The fact that one in the field of the WARRIOR, we have repeatedly proved to the whole world and once again we can repeat! The Russians are not going to give up, we just get angrier and angrier .. And time X, soon gentlemen will fool!
      2. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 22 2018 11: 32
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I think this AUG will be left to put pressure on Turkey ... Erdogan accuses the USA of pressure and threats.

        Something I strongly doubt that Russia will agree to have such a hefty group in almost its near rear (conducting hostilities on several fronts at once) that surpasses ALL of our and allied forces in a one-time bombing line.
        Especially taking into account the vastness of Russian interests and allied capabilities and demands in this region.

        The Turks here act as mediators between the Russian Federation and Iran, Iran has too big ambitions, Turkey is holding back Iran. At the same time, Iran does not allow the Turks to penetrate far into this conflict, in the sum of all the contradictions, the Russian Federation, Iran, Turkey keep a good bridgehead in Syria, preventing the allies of the states from getting into it with great forces. The only one who is aloof is Israel, it interferes with both, but when they turn to it, it goes into the shadows, they say we mustache. Israel is attracting Iran through its conflict, the states of Iran are least of all needed there, because others climb over Iran there, and the states need complete freedom of action in Syria. lol

        ps. Israel is good for everyone, please Jews do not hiss .... tongue
  7. K-50
    K-50 April 22 2018 08: 38
    +2
    US Navy "Harry Truman" aircraft carrier may remain in the Mediterranean Sea as a reminder to Assad of the inadmissibility of the use of chemical weapons

    The ravings of the State Department and the White House are expensive for pin taxpayers. laughing
    1. BVS
      BVS April 22 2018 08: 52
      0
      Now the whole BSF will be accompanied by the ASU of the USA, and this is cheap for us. After all, only “pin to taxpayers” is expensive.
      The US budget is 10 times the budget of the Russian Federation.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 22 2018 08: 47
    0
    A final decision has not yet been made, but it would become "response to Russia's actions in the region and would be consistent with the new National Security Strategy, ”the publication writes, citing sources.

    How scarecrow, or as a target ?! laughing
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 22 2018 08: 55
    +1
    The word "may" is already getting on my nerves am for too often it has come to be mentioned recently! negative They will leave - a hundred feet to him over the "island" and corals throughout the hull as soon as they pass to Neptune! !!
  10. cedar
    cedar April 22 2018 08: 55
    +1
    Under Truman’s rule, the United States became the only country to use atomic weapons. Hundreds of thousands of civilians in Japan were destroyed.
    It is possible that a torpedo with a nuclear warhead has already been made and is waiting in the wings, which will restore balance ...
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 22 2018 08: 56
    +2
    An aircraft carrier (one) for Syrian air defense is not too scary. More dangerous are his escort ships with cruise missiles. A lot of them are there. A massive blow of such intensity may not be able to withstand ... But there is nothing to cover them with. Maybe the four MiG-31 with "Daggers"? Relocate to Hmeimim? So simple, in training order. wassat
    1. next322
      next322 April 22 2018 09: 05
      +1
      Mig-31 with a dagger so far in a single copy and undergoes trial operation in Astrakhan ...... laughing can be sent with mock-ups, but they are involved in the May show over the Kremlin
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 22 2018 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: next322
        Mig-31 with a dagger so far in a single copy and undergoes trial operation in Astrakhan ...... laughing can be sent with mock-ups, but they are involved in the May show over the Kremlin

        You shouldn’t be malicious. .. What Putin voiced before the elections is the minimum that Russia has in the storehouse ..! It is not in vain that liberalism fights so badly and the USA is nervous and trying to show its "power" hehe
  12. Old26
    Old26 April 22 2018 09: 42
    +2
    Quote: nPuBaTuP
    And it would be nice if they would drive (“Varshavyanka”) this trough in the Mediterranean puddle to reports from the personnel with wishes would return to mattress and quickly ...

    Do you seriously think that Varshavyanka will be able to do something with AUG? Chase him? Save your caps for a better time.
    There are fifty of them or more. 2-3 maximum. For an AUG order, this is not a problem. Moreover, the aircraft carrier’s speed is 30+ knots, and the maximum speed of 636 project boats is 20 knots. And hear them oh how far

    Quote: RASKAT
    What is the use of an aircraft carrier? His planes have no long-range cruise missiles. Snooping around in Syria will be even worse than with the Tamagavkas. And for our submarines an excellent goal, it’s hard to miss such a fool.

    Do you need a cruise missile with a range of 980 km? Suspended under deck F / A-18 in two pieces. Plus "Axes" on destroyers? So is there any sense or not?

    Quote: RASKAT
    I question its usefulness in the fight against Syria, and I don’t think that they will directly use aviation, shot down missiles are one thing, dead pilots are completely different.

    What prevents deck aircraft from firing off into Syria from Lebanese airspace?

    Quote: K-50
    US Navy "Harry Truman" aircraft carrier may remain in the Mediterranean Sea as a reminder to Assad of the inadmissibility of the use of chemical weapons

    The ravings of the State Department and the White House are expensive for pin taxpayers. laughing

    They both had bases in the SPM and remained. With all the infrastructure. And the carriers at the visit to the SPM did not hang out on barrels in the open sea, but were in bases. so there’s nothing extra overhead in spending. The only thing they will have to revise is the rotation schedule of aircraft carriers.

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Maybe the four MiG-31 with "Daggers"?

    Yeah. Their two sides are only in the test and take part, and are you going to adjust the four already?
  13. flicker
    flicker April 22 2018 09: 50
    +1
    AUG with the appearance of supersonic missiles is transformed from a formidable shock force into an instant "mass grave" - ​​5000 people.
    An aircraft carrier named after the president who issued a criminal order for the atomic bombing of peaceful cities in Japan (according to various sources, from 150 to 250 thousand civilian Japanese people died), must be sunk.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 22 2018 10: 28
      +1
      Or sawn into metal at one time. recourse What is inevitable ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 22 2018 11: 51
      +1
      But in wartime, the enemy has no peaceful cities. If the USSR had atomic bombs then, they would be 100% likely to be used against German cities and military forces.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 22 2018 10: 26
    +1
    So it was during the cold war of the 50-80s.
    American AUG constantly stuck in the Mediterranean Sea.
    The Cold War has returned - aircraft carriers have also returned. sad
  15. alex80
    alex80 April 22 2018 10: 35
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    Quote: avt
    Quote: donavi49
    But if on an ongoing basis - then the Black Sea Fleet has problems with the allocation of forces for typical tracking.

    request For tracking, it’s generally desirable, in addition to the A-50, to have an analog of Poseidon’s

    So like a couple of weeks ago, the IL-38 with the Novella monitored the situation in the Mediterranean. So we have the means for this. The question is how many of these funds are and how often we can use ...
  16. Old26
    Old26 April 22 2018 11: 21
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    Quote: flicker
    AUG with the appearance of supersonic missiles is transformed from a formidable shock force into an instant "mass grave" - ​​5000 people.

    For this, it is necessary that hypersonic missiles appear not only in the cartoon, but in armament and in sufficient quantity.

    Quote: flicker
    An aircraft carrier named after the president who issued a criminal order for the atomic bombing of peaceful cities in Japan (according to various sources, from 150 to 250 thousand civilian Japanese people died), must be sunk

    Drown. Take a drill and make a bunch of holes below the waterline. Perhaps and sink ...

    Quote: alex80
    So like a couple of weeks ago, the IL-38 with the Novella monitored the situation in the Mediterranean. So we have the means for this. The question is how many of these funds are and how often we can use...

    But this is a question-question
  17. Samara_63
    Samara_63 April 22 2018 12: 31
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    Yes, there’s still a nearby aircraft carrier spinning ... Dwight Eisenhower
  18. Medalist
    Medalist April 22 2018 19: 49
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    US Navy aircraft carrier Harry Truman may remain in the Mediterranean ...
    FOREVER AND EVER ! They went on their last trip and will never return to their native shores. One way or another, but it will happen soon. This could have happened before. Recall 1999:
    Having received the order, Lyachin could well defeat the 6th US fleet. The armament of the boat of the 949th project, which was the "Kursk", are 24 cruise missiles of the type "Granite". They are able to break through any ship’s air defense. Yes, and torpedoes with nuclear warheads. When our newest boat arrived in the Mediterranean Sea, the carrier groups of the USA and NATO were just being changed there. One went to her base in Norfolk, the other just arrived. The task was to detect and track both the first group and the second. The crew of the Kursk found them. And the Lyachinsky even conditionally fired five rockets: three in one group, two in the other. In reality, the aircraft carriers that bombed Serbia at that time could be sunk.
    http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sosta
    vlyayuschih-jizni-obschestva / voorujennye-sily-arm
    iya / 2929-o-tainpm-pohode-kurska
  19. Andrey Grigoryev
    Andrey Grigoryev April 23 2018 10: 50
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    COME BACK.

    Back in the days of the Union,
    In the Mediterranean was
    US Navy, for everyone a burden,
    He stood, carried out exercises.

    Time passed and we changed
    Not the USSR, but all are strong,
    We are reborn from the ashes again
    Positions taking their.

    Aircraft Carrier Harry Truman
    Now with the squadron there,
    I think not so crazy
    So that he is a "Dagger" he is defeated.

    23.04.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX Andrey Grigoryev
  20. seal78
    seal78 April 23 2018 16: 37
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    The Pentagon may leave the carrier group in the Mediterranean

    Yeah, maybe. At the bottom :) This probability is quite high.
  21. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo April 23 2018 16: 47
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    in the Mediterranean Sea near Syria, our Navy has: 6 SKR, 2 DEPL
    (1 TFR ave. 11540 Yaroslav the Wise, 2 TFR ave. 11356 Admirals Grigorovich and Essen, 1 TFR ave. 61 Shrewd, 1 TFR ave.
    Under the question of the nuclear submarine Ave. 971 and the nuclear submarine Ave. 949, will only know in cases of real conflict
    BK exhaust = 272 SAM, 66 anti-ship missiles / PLUR / SLCM