Close the road Russian and China. US announced new rules for the export of weapons

The administration of the President of the United States announced new rules for the export of weapons, now buy American weapon it became much easier, reports "Warspot" with a link portal defensenews.com

The new set of rules governing the sale of military equipment abroad is based on a new idea: "Economic security - national security." Thus, the administration of the President of the United States puts economic justification in the first place, which should help American companies develop their business.

The new changes will make it easier for allies and partners to get American security systems, which, in turn, improves the security of the allied states, and at the same time reduces the need to buy Chinese and Russian weapons.

- said Peter Navarro, head of the National Council on Trade at the White House.

According to SIPRI, the United States is the largest arms supplier in the world. American companies account for 34% of global exports, and arms are sold to 98 countries. The closest competitor to the United States in the global arms market is Russia with 22% and 47 buyer countries. Third place belongs to China with 5,7% and 48 buyer countries. At the same time, China is pursuing an aggressive export policy, seriously competing with American companies in some areas (in particular, the supply of military drones). The new export policy should make U.S. weapons more accessible to allies, simplify the buying process, and shorten deal times.

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[210ox]

No, of course you can start "cheaply" copying the Chinese and dumping ..

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, let's compete with the Anglo-Saxons ..? A better in combat use! Weak ..?

[Thrall]

Trump vacuum cleaners talented, probably

[Tersky]

Quote: Thrall

Trump vacuum cleaners talented, probably

I don’t know how with vacuum cleaners, but the fans from Trump are now in great demand, especially in England. Theresa, who May, on occasion, took in bulk, judging by the frequent stuffing - a lot and cheap

[krops777]

I don’t know how with vacuum cleaners, but the fans from Trump are now in great demand, especially in England. Theresa, who May, on occasion, took in bulk, judging by the frequent stuffing - a lot and cheap yes

Not only fans but also what is usually thrown at them, the whole world is already head over heels in fertilizers.

[JD1979]

Are you weak not to post your stupid comments? So you want your Amer rocket to fly over your head? So go to Syria, settle on T4 which the Israelis bombed. And you will have the opportunity from the first row to comment on the competition of Western missiles and Soviet air defense. Well or not, if our play. So how weak?

[Cutter]

The US Presidential Administration announced new arms export rules, now it’s much easier to buy American weapons,

And what was so difficult before? Or filled the price tag ??? And now they’re stepping on the heels ???

and at the same time reduces the need to purchase Chinese and Russian weapons

Need will not reduce, the ratio of price and quality has always been in favor of Russian weapons. It's hard to talk about Chinese. And will Americans offer a cheap price ???

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: JD1979

Are you weak not to post your stupid comments? So you want your Amer rocket to fly over your head? So go to Syria, settle on T4 which the Israelis bombed. And you will have the opportunity from the first row to comment on the competition of Western missiles and Soviet air defense. Well or not, if our play. So how weak?

So, cursing the dungster? Meehan may have meant that a weapon that has worked well in real b / conditions is selling well. In Syria, Russia tested more than 200 new weapons, not to mention the fact that the old models showed themselves well.

[Terenin]

Quote: JD1979

Are you weak not to post your stupid comments? So you want your Amer rocket to fly over your head? So go to Syria, settle on T4 which the Israelis bombed. And you will have the opportunity from the first row to comment on the competition of Western missiles and Soviet air defense. Well or not, if our play. So how weak?

To say: Are you weak? ... you need to do something yourself first. Or were you on T4 yourself during the bombing?
This is a forum for posts due to the different abilities of members of the forum. Instead of criticizing the “dumb” posts, in your opinion, write “sharp” and we will read them with pleasure. With such a "condescending" position for the Amer’s rocket, I can’t vouch, and criticism will definitely fly to your head

[Tusv]

Quote: JD1979

So go to Syria, settle on T4 which the Israelis bombed. And you will have the opportunity from the first row to comment on the competition of Western missiles and Soviet air defense. Well or not, if our play. So how weak?

By the way, they covered with 200 Carapace and Jews hobble from Lebanon, since it’s not kosher to fly into Syria,

[Faith]

Everywhere you are, everyone is offering something on behalf of Russia, crazy.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: MIKHAN

Well, let's compete with the Anglo-Saxons ..? A better in combat use! Weak ..?

Actually, why? Red Stirlitz and so everything will fall apart. What doesn’t do it - are we all benefiting, have you noticed? This is, damn it, the American Gorbachev, a response from the KGB-Schnick, edren-loaf. . Accept, dudes.

[dSK]

Quote: MIKHAN

let's Anglo-Saxons compete

Hang on, America: S-300 secretly delivered to Syria. Foreign journalists have long tried to unravel the secret of the smokescreen in the Syrian port of Tartus during the unloading of a naval vessel. And they decided that they masked the supply of Syrian Russian air defense S-300 to Syria.
With reference to Syrian sources it was said that the ships, they say, were loaded in Novorossiysk. But it was not known what kind of cargo it was. Given the increased secrecy, journalists came to the conclusion that they were hiding the Russian S-300 air defense systems behind the smoke screen, the delivery of which has been discussed for a week now - just after a missile strike by the United States, Britain and France on civilian and military targets in Syria. There is no exact information about the mysterious cargo, reports today Elint News.

[Evgeny Goncharov]

Suitcase - Station - Deir ez-Zor

[Normal ok]

Quote: MIKHAN

Well, let's compete with the Anglo-Saxons ..? A better in combat use! Weak ..?

So after all, for the last 70 years, we have only been doing that we are competing with them. And things are still there - they are in the first place.

[Hire]

Notice the reduction in price not a word.

[210ox]

Well, where did you see cheap Amerz weapons. And my comment about "dumping" refers to the US plans to produce copies of popular Soviet weapons for poor countries .. But if they also start to copy Chinese copies of Soviet weapons ....

Quote: Hire

Notice the reduction in price not a word.

[Hire]

Quote: 210ox

And my comment about dumping

Yes, no ... I'm just talking about the fact that they don’t raise a hand to give up profits. It is hoped that administrative measures will resolve the issue. But, damn it, this is not a barn to sell in a landfill!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Hire

It is hoped that administrative measures will resolve the issue.

The circuit is worked out. If you don’t buy the Made in Matrasia weapon, you get a bag of sanctions.

[Doliva63]

"... copy Chinese copies of Soviet weapons ..."
This is 100500!

[210ox]

Valentine And how can they fight? Sanctions, a credit line (by no means cheap with further maintenance of equipment). They have at least one company specializing in copies of Soviet models .. And there are countries where it is armed with old Chinese junk ... Wow to provide something for them ..

Quote: Doliva63

"... copy Chinese copies of Soviet weapons ..."
This is 100500!

[Doliva63]

, Dmitry! Yes "fight" they can, as they like but I am impressed by the assessment of Soviet weapons, if even fake copies of them can be appreciated

[SOF]

"... copy Chinese copies of Soviet weapons ..."
... I agree ... the pearl is still the one ... must be filled

[Doliva63]

Quote: SOF

"... copy Chinese copies of Soviet weapons ..."
... I agree ... the pearl is still the one ... must be filled

Correct - fill!

[APASUS]

Quote: 210ox

Well, where did you see cheap Amerz weapons.

I think the Americans took a different path, pursuing completely different goals. So far they have been unable to rekindle the world conflict and to stay on their own.
Remember Chekhov:
If at the beginning of the play a gun hangs on the wall, then (by the end of the play) it should shoot

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Hire

Notice the reduction in price not a word.

And why should the US sell their weapons cheaply? They are trying to sell weapons on credit, and cheap credit is not in the interests of the United States!

[Hire]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

They are trying to sell weapons on credit, and cheap credit is not in the interests of the United States!

Cheap and small ...

[NIKNN]

This is at what price should be dumped, what would the Chinese have? If we take Amer’s prices, then they should sell the plane at a price .... I don’t even find anything to compare with, well, the meaning is clear ...

Quote: 210ox

No, of course you can start "cheaply" copying the Chinese and dumping ..

[Xroft]

Many said that after Syria, the arms export will be trampled upon us ... that large orders for our equipment are not visible ... except for India / Algeria who are using the technical base for our products, no one takes anything special. Su 34 silence, su 35 volumes are very small . Mi 28 35 almost zero by zero ... Iraq simply took the lack of opportunities and deadlines ... well, at least Egypt took 52 under the Mistral, so they would have refused.

[Lerych]

Military equipment, these are not cucumbers on the market in Mozdok ... America can rest. In Mexico, I’ve steamed my equipment. First a fence, and then rockets were offered. Muchachos with whom, with America will fight? :)

[faterdom]

And on the S-400 there is not a line of thirsty? Moreover, these are not our allies, rather American!

[user1212]

Quote: Xroft

that large orders for our equipment are not visible

The volume of signed contracts for the export of arms from Russia over a year:
2012 - $ 17,6 billion
2013 - $ 17 billion
2014 - $ 15 billion
2015 - $ 26 billion
2016 - $ 9,5 billion
2017 - $ 16 billion
About 14-15 billion contracts are executed annually, which is about half of the Soviet supply volume (1986-1988) taking into account dollar inflation

[Vanek]

Quote: 210ox

dumping ..

Normal practice. Nothing new.

Quote: 210ox

copy chinese

This ... This is a copy of the copy will succeed. Right?

And this crap from the hangar will generally leave (fly out, swim out) no?

And what about you, a copy of a copy of the machine? It shoots in the opposite direction. Through the butt.

[Borik]

We have only one trump card that our weapons are cheaper than the Americans.

[Hire]

Quote: Borik

We have only one trump card that our weapons are cheaper than the Americans.

It is also more reliable, easier to maintain and learn, more durable and with a large margin of modernization. Oh yes, I forgot! It also protects against amer.

[Strips]

Quote: Hire

It is also more reliable, easier to maintain and learn, more durable and with a large margin of modernization

It is a myth.
India, Azerbaijan and other countries complained about support problems, marriage, failures, lack of documentation, etc.
Remember the MiG-29K, MiG-35

Here is a simple example:

https://m.lenta.ru/news/2017/01/26/naval/

In 2016, the Indian Audit Office criticized the MiG-29K, the report noted problems with the operation of engines, an electronic remote control system, as well as deviations as a glider. As a result, low serviceability of the MiG-29K fleet of the Indian Navy was noted, from 15.93 to 37,63 percent for the MiG-29K and from 21,30 to 47,14 percent for the MiG-29KUB

https://m.lenta.ru/articles/2011/10/26/final/


In April, MiG RSK, which offered the Indian Air Force MiG-126, dropped out of the MMRCA competition for the supply of 12 multi-role medium fighters with a total value of about $ 35 billion. This machine lost for the same reason as the Mi-28NE - the "dampness" of some components. In particular, the Zhuk-MAE radar with an active phased array antenna under development, during the tests, was able to detect targets at a shorter range than was stated in the tender. In addition, the RD-33MK engines installed on the MiG-35 failed to reach the thrust due to the task.

[Hire]

Quote: Tiras

It is a myth.

Myth is what Indians say and pours Ribbon into your head. They are just being traded. But the sale of weapons to Azerbaijan for $ 5 billion is not a myth.

[Sands Careers General]

As they say - "Kroilovo leads to the popalov." They will save a penny, but they will receive problems by 3 rubles.

[Kasym]

General, about Azerbaijan, this is a fake. Information came from the side, from some Western resource. Baku then denied this info.
India has its own trading manner. For them, bargaining is life. If he is not bargaining, then he does not respect and wants to get off.

[Sands Careers General]

Dauren
Bargaining is certainly good, but sometimes it is necessary to put common sense above the characteristics of the national mentality.

[Kasym]

Actually, the Su-57 and joint development are different machines. India put forward its TTZ. They want to pay for development and deploy production at home. But here we need a lot of money for personnel and technology - they are close. such a time will not be pulled. At the same time, they want the most modern, incl. the latest engines that are currently being developed for the Su-57. But they just won’t get it in the near future, especially production. In my opinion, when viewed from the Indians, it is not realistic to introduce such a development into production in the next 10 years. That's why they refuse.
Rafal is a similar situation.

[Evgeny Goncharov]

> more durable

here is a dreamer

[NEXUS]

Is it time to stop the supply of iron, steel, nickel and titanium in the United States? This is for starters. If the enemy strikes, it is necessary to respond twice as painfully, so that it is not learned. That’s what we need to learn from Israel.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: NEXUS

Is it time to stop the supply of iron, steel, nickel and titanium in the United States? This is for starters. If the enemy strikes, it is necessary to respond twice as painfully, so that it is not learned. That’s what we need to learn from Israel.

This will not be easy for several reasons. If you suddenly stop shipping, you have to turn out your pockets for breach of contracts quite decently. Moreover, today with the Russian Federation trade is conducted in some cases not directly, but through guarantors. That they will pay a penalty for the Russian Federation, but will no longer sign up to become guarantors in such transactions. Well, and most importantly, what will the Russian Federation do with its iron, steel, nickel and titanium? Where to put it? Cut production? And people, where? No, reckless actions in such matters are fraught with ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: A. Privalov

It will not be easy to do this for several reasons.

And they left us a choice? M. You don’t understand one thing ... no matter how naive it sounds, but Russia is trying to establish peace in that region ... by the way, and it’s trying for you as well, for sure you don’t need an eternally burning military conflict at the border the problems that you have now. And the United States is shaking this boat in the BV with all its might, pumping hysteria, hammering rockets at the troops who are fighting with ISIS.
Moreover, the United States and I have not had peace for a long time, but a full-scale war, and you know that.
We are trying to establish peace in that region, and the United States benefits from war. And they play dirty and brazen.
The legitimacy of world USA was seen in a coffin. Read the US Constitution and you will see a direct violation of the main document of the country by Trump, Obama and so on ...

[Victor N]

And to whom to sell all this? Or enjoy yourself?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Victor N

And to whom to sell all this? Or enjoy yourself?

The trick is that in the financial war we will definitely lose to the States. Different weight categories of economies. But we can hit them in industry. Let us not immediately stop deliveries, but gradually reduce them, redistributing surpluses to other markets. In any case, I have a strong feeling that despite the fact that we are beaten mercilessly, we can’t answer due to the fact that our hands are tied on all fronts.

[Shahno]

David vs Goliath? But they forget that in David’s hands it was ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Shahno

David vs Goliath?

This is true of our forces in Syria and the US forces ... we'll see.

[lance]

liberated pig iron, steel and nickel will successfully go to the military-industrial complex of the rf, and at a reduced price (if the Putin government does not help the offended oligarchs again), which will make the products even more competitive. this is how the previous sanctions were overcome by forcing the “elite" of the liberals to work inside the country. therefore, sometimes I don’t want to look at md with his team, they only need to report $ and not raise the domestic market.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: NEXUS

The trick is that in the financial war we will definitely lose to the States.

What is the chip? What are you speaking about? We live in the back of a capitalist society. It is disgusting for me to look at how military pensioners rejoice at ten or two thousand rubles for serving the Fatherland. What game have we not played yet? Break up with the dollar, which are exported abroad. Just start moving away, and don’t draw us the schemes in which deputies, stamping laws for themselves and for themselves, drive cars that they buy for dollars. The USSR was building the economy, Western "toads" choked on anger, looking at our successes. Now we choke on powerlessness, lack of money, powerlessness. We recall what was in the hands of David. Is there accurate data or are we guided by the Bible? I know that it’s harder than our officials took up, who led the country depending on the mood of the US president, and their people into poverty and vegetation.

[resonance]

Quote: NEXUS

Is it time to stop supplying cast iron, steel, nickel and titanium to the United States?

Be sure to. And the sooner the better.

[Evgeny Goncharov]

> If the enemy strikes, you have to respond twice as hard

everything is fine, but why are the metallurgists of Russia for your opponent?

[bald]

As the saying goes, "If you bought from us, the right shoe - then get the left one for free." Voluntarily - forcibly.

[Herculesic]

Another carrot for those who can not count between the lines? A tank for two million bucks, half a million delivery! Parts prices will triple, service repair will be cheaper, but they will be carried out three times more often! I am sure the United States will find where anyone how and on what to heat up the headstock! !!

[Shuraken]

If China bans the export of rare earth metals to the United States, where they have an almost global monopoly, then Trump will blow into the pipe from rockets and the rest, since there is nothing to fill them with, they are complete.

[Sands Careers General]

So export is already prohibited. More precisely, there are quotas, but rather severe. Even sued "Western partners" with China.

[lance]

why bans? Let it deliver, taking into account duties, that either it will reduce the number of products manufactured in the United States, or increase its price, both of which are personally profitable for the Russian Federation.

[Antares]

Quote: Shuraken

the export of rare earth metals to the United States, where they have an almost global monopoly,

Recently, a sharp jump in prices for these strategic metals has occurred repeatedly. For example, the value of zinc in 2005 increased by 403%, uranium in 2006 - by 778%, molybdenum in 2007 - by 809%, silver in 2010 - by 443%. Rare earth metals soared even more. Since 2008, their price has risen on average 20 times. The price of the most expensive rare earth metal, europium, used in monitor screens, medical imaging, nuclear and defense industries, increased from $ 403 per kilogram in 2009 to $ 4,900 in 2011. Now europium is trading at a price of about $ 1110, but in China its cost is almost 2 times cheaper - $ 630 / kg

Moreover, it is worth noting that China is not only engaged in mining because
REE mining is not yet a complete production cycle. Their processing and separation is a technologically complex and costly process. Therefore, most of the extracted REE is still sent to China, which has unique equipment for the separation and separation of elements.
However, the United States intends to overcome those 2010% of its needs with the help of an open field in 25.

Quote: Shuraken

then Trump will blow into the pipe from the rockets and the rest, since there will be nothing to fill them with, they are complete.

Collaboration with Australia is far from the first attempt of the United States to gain a foothold in the rare metals market, where China leads. To reduce dependence on imports of these elements and protect the national economy, the American leader last year ordered to take measures to increase the production of rare metals in the United States. According to the US Geological Survey, a quarter of the needs of American industry in these elements is covered exclusively by imports. This, in particular, is about neodymium and tantalum.
In the last century, the leading global producers of rare earth metals were the United States, the USSR and France. However, in 2014, Russia's share in the rare earths market was only 1,3%, although, according to some estimates, about 18% of the world's REE reserves are contained in Russian mineral resources
Now the actual monopolist in the field of rare earths is China. By the end of the 2000s, it accounted for more than 90% of the global production of rare earth elements. However, in 2010, Beijing limited their exports, citing the enormous damage that the uncontrolled REE mining inflicts on the environment. Naturally, this led to a sharp rise in the cost of rare-earth metals. In 2015, Beijing lifted the restrictions, but the consequences of the monopolization of the REE market became apparent.
Russia is very dependent on Kazakhstan, where China also fits. DPRK, Afghanistan have large reserves, South Africa, African countries, where China also interferes.
The United States also intends to get around this. By substitution and possession, they are equal. As long as the dollar rules the world.

[K-50]

I look at the Saudi in the photo and think about who he looks like, and then, EXACTLY !!! This is Conchita in "arafatka".
Only a little more fat.

[Sands Careers General]

The picture of Trump with an Arab reminded this))

[Eduard petrov]

nibble on all fronts. decided to block one of the main export items ...

[Heterocapsa]

strongly lobby of American arms companies and it seems to me that they are in the circle of those who form Washington’s political agenda.

[XXXIII]

The new changes will make it easier for allies and partners to get American security systems, which, in turn, improves the security of the allied states, and at the same time reduces the need to buy Chinese and Russian weapons.

It is not entirely clear what these rules mean, this type of protection already exists, modular systems, remote control of the manufacturer .... What else could there be come up with or a trick to be afraid and buy ....

[Strashila]

Yeah ... especially Iraq was convinced of the partnership promises of the Americans ... foolishness and refused to repair their tanks ... Iraqis thought and bought Russian ... more reliable and cheaper.

[Strashila]

A logical continuation ... in the beginning they announced the purchase of Soviet weapons technologies ... now an extended sale.

[Salomet]

If I’m right and he swung the export licensing commission, then he will fly out of the chair with a bullet. Not only did we plow for superiority, but also the United States, and now squander what has been achieved as our bureaucrats in 90, or as Ukraine now? Who will give him? The military will be the first to slam. They will not fight without superiority in technology.

[Hurricane70]

China has a real chance to become a leader in the arms trade, as all they do is original! Has anyone heard of a fake Chinese fake?

[Vlad5307]

The new export policy should make American weapons more accessible to allies, simplify the buying process and shorten transaction times.

The more accessible the American armament is, the worse its quality characteristics are, and for the Papuans it’s possible to discard junk at the price of a new one!

[vlad007]

"Economic Security - National Security." Trump is right! We also need to be guided by this slogan!

[PalBor]

And in Riyadh in the area of ​​the royal palace, powerful shooting. They say either an attempted military coup or pro-Iranian Shiite militants from Badr.
If the king and his son ... 300 trumps cried.
But hardly...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: PalBor

And in Riyadh in the area of ​​the royal palace, powerful shooting. They say either an attempted military coup or pro-Iranian Shiite militants from Badr.

They recently dispossessed a couple of dozen princes there for $ 100 billion, so now there is a bunch of people who want to clear the throne and fight for its inheritance without Badr’s participation.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: PalBor

in Riyadh near the royal palace powerful shooting

The wedding is probably celebrated))).

[PalBor]

Probably ... So the sorbet was drunk, that the royal hospital plane from the capital rushed off to the south-west somewhere.
Cheerful people live.

[flicker]

Now it’s clear why they are firing their own territory with the Patriots

[militia2]

"American companies account for 34% of global exports, arms are sold to 98 countries. The closest competitor to the US in the global arms market is Russia, with 22% and 47 buyer countries."
If you read the article, “life can not be so good, but it’s not as bad as it is sometimes thought” (G. Maupassant)

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Thrall

Trump vacuum cleaners talented, probably

It seems now the rich Arabs (at least the Saudis) do not care about vacuum cleaners:
"The skirmish in Riyadh took the king of Saudi Arabia to flight"
In the area of ​​the residence of the King of Saudi Arabia, Salman ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud, a shootout occurred. This was reported on Saturday by local residents.
The incident occurred in Riyadh. According to preliminary data, the area around the building was blocked by law enforcement officials.
https://tsargrad.tv/news/perestrelka-v-jer-rijade
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[u1977020556]

They will succeed in breathing in super-expensive stuff to suckers ... until the war begins. Let them sell ... war is inevitable.

[Lerych]

But all sorts of McDonald's and CFS could have been covered up. In Pelmennaya you can eat the same. And kolypepsi with a baikal can be replaced.

[Lunic]

Pepsi, if you remember, both in the 70th and 80th in the Union they sold .... unlike Kokakola ... the curtain was not an obstacle

[shinobi]

It’s worthless, Americans have expensive weapons. We don’t need to talk about quality either.

[private person]

Quote: MIKHAN

Well, let's compete with the Anglo-Saxons ..? A better in combat use! Weak ..?

They are not weak, they use their weapons around the world.

[ruivit1988]

Well, after the advertising campaign in Syria, as well as in other countries, the war was on fire. To put it mildly ... In general, a logical move on their part was to simplify the procedure for selling weapons. Let's see what happens next ...

[23rus]

Began. Ponts are thrown back and fill the machine by any means.

[Vard]

After advertising anti-aircraft defense in Saudi Arabia and Syria ... it’s not hard to guess that the United States is not competitive ...

[Ace Tambourine]

Well ... if the gentlemen don't like the rules, then the gentlemen just change the rules ...
But didn’t you be afraid to get on?

[jncnfdybr]

Why invent new sales rules? Reset Interest 70 on their products, the buyer and stretch. That is, make a real price and not the one you break.