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If it weren’t for the F-22 ... “Unique Features” of the Aircraft Helped US Attack on Syria

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According to the statements of the US Air Force Central Command, the F-22 Raptor fighters played a significant role in the air strikes of the Coalition on Syria due to their “unique capabilities”, reports Task and Purpose


If it weren’t for the F-22 ... “Unique Features” of the Aircraft Helped US Attack on Syria


According to officials, stealth fighters provided support for American troops and allied forces operating on Earth, while the United States, France and Britain attacked chemical objects in western Syria.

F-22 played an integral role in the protection of ground forces during the attack and after the missile attacks
- said Mark Graff, spokesman for the US Air Force Central Command.

According to him, thanks to the "unique capabilities" of the fifth generation fighter, the F-22 was the only aircraft capable of operating in the defeat zone of the Syrian air defense and providing air protection for the US and the coalition.

Previously, the participation of F-22 in this operation was not reported.

In the United States have repeatedly stated about the unique capabilities of the F-22 Raptor. It was reported that the fighter can easily move to supersonic cruising speed, without the use of an afterburner. F-22 was called super-maneuverable, despite the fact that the Raptor changes the thrust vector in only two dimensions, only up and down. In addition, the F-22 can carry six missiles. However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to the radar, Sight
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 18
    +62
    F-22 played an integral role in the protection of ground forces during the attack and after the missile attacks

    And who threatened the landmates then? According to this statement, the pangolin was stupidly standing on a skater.
    Previously, the participation of F-22 in this operation was not reported.

    In a week, both the Martians and the Death Star will appear there and the F-35.
    Holywood and the Pentagon write good tales. True, where is Captain America? wassat
    1. Borik
      Borik April 20 2018 18: 31
      +9
      Well, how without them so unique, mattresses would not have dared to strike with smart missiles. And then courage increased from such a cover.
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr April 20 2018 18: 32
        +13
        Was there a "boy"?
        1. Monos
          Monos April 20 2018 18: 45
          +11
          I do not know if this pterodactyl participated in that circus, but the activity of NATO refuellers over the Mediterranean Sea that day was crazy.


          1. figwam
            figwam April 20 2018 18: 49
            +22
            So these are the custodians on Rafaly and Mirage with refueling from France dragged, then back, only about 10 hours in the sky.
        2. Letun
          Letun April 20 2018 19: 10
          +7
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Was there a "boy"?

          Well, he was like, his current, like, no one saw laughing It is necessary for our Che to come up with a similar thread wassat
          1. Wolverine
            Wolverine April 20 2018 19: 49
            +5
            Well, yes, it’s hard to see a black cat in a dark room, especially if she wasn’t there at all ... drinks
          2. tracer
            tracer April 20 2018 22: 12
            +4
            Well guess why you don’t see green flying crocodiles above your head? That's right ... they are invisible ...
        3. sir_obs
          sir_obs April 20 2018 20: 18
          +7
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Was there a "boy"?


          Here I am about the same.
          So invisible at all to everyone that it was necessary to say about them. Otherwise, no one would have understood.
          That is, similar stories can be adjusted to almost any event.


          For example, I would associate these invisibles with the spraying of chemistry over Syria.
          It was they in the Duma who sprayed chemistry. Nobody saw them, so everyone is trying to blame everything on Russia.
          1. ALEXXX1983
            ALEXXX1983 April 20 2018 22: 35
            0
            Quote: sir_obs
            So invisible at all to everyone that it was necessary to say about them. Otherwise, no one would have understood.

            Probably even their pilots did not see them there.
        4. venik
          venik April 21 2018 13: 55
          +1
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Was there a "boy"?

          =====
          Or maybe the "boy" was not there ???
          Or maybe the "Raptor" - well, so "invisible" that NOBODY (neither their own, nor strangers_ could not see .....). Very convenient position: "they are so" invisible "that no one and didn't see! "....
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 33
        +5
        Quote: Borik
        And then courage increased from such a cover.

        Yeah ... courage was added that they carefully shot off the boar’s paths, and in such a way that two whole missiles were presented to us.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 20 2018 18: 52
          +13
          Here again, either a translation or journalistic jargon ...
          provided support for american troops and allied formations,
          Where did they train them? On the defensive? Then from whom did they defend themselves? Offensive? Then who was being attacked? Did you cover your trip to the bathhouse? so this is not support, cover. Well, support for going to the bathhouse, a tavern, a brothel somehow not according to military concepts ... Yes, it’s not just support, but already american troops (Karl troops !!!) not advisers or contingent limited. The rest of the participants in the coalition there, I realized at the beck and call of these troops ... Well, who is fighting with whom?
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 21 2018 12: 05
          0
          Not all gifts are counted. The party was fun, probably still a four-thread is being found.
      3. The comment was deleted.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 43
          +20
          Quote: Flying Iron
          Why are they hanging noodles there, and it’s clear to the hedgehog that Su-57 is much cooler

          Dear, the SU-57 is really better ... another question is that our flyers are much better.
          1. abvgdeika
            abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 20
            +10
            From the sofa, he certainly looks better laughing
            1. Russia
              Russia April 20 2018 19: 32
              +21
              Quote: abvgdeika
              From the sofa, he certainly looks better laughing

              Don’t upset me, my friend, behave more modestly, once you have come to visit me.
              1. abvgdeika
                abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 39
                +7
                Well, okay, just a very categorical statement.
                Our plane is the most aircraft in the world. good
                1. Gumma
                  Gumma April 20 2018 20: 14
                  +15
                  Sausage emigrants intensified. And you come to us, we will blow through your pipe and your decision. Airplane ...
            2. kventinasd
              kventinasd April 20 2018 21: 28
              +1
              And what is there to argue if raptor pilots are even afraid of Su35 like fire. The problem is that there is practically no 57s so far, but the 35s is enough for Americans to put on their pants from their presence.
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 22
              +7
              Quote: abvgdeika
              From the sofa, he certainly looks better laughing

              From your sofa and the S-300 is not an air defense system. laughing
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r April 21 2018 11: 33
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: abvgdeika
                From the sofa, he certainly looks better laughing

                From your sofa and the S-300 is not an air defense system. laughing

                Only for some reason they promise to open a hunt for them, since they are mortally, I emphasize, mortally threatening Israel !!! What !!! And it’s not a SAM or a plane. wassat tongue
            4. tracer
              tracer April 21 2018 04: 24
              +2
              Well what are you? It is always better to see only from the crying wall ...
          2. mvg
            mvg April 20 2018 19: 24
            +14
            Again unreasonable reviews? Over the years, the plane has been brought to mind, it constantly flies, the best engines in the world, AFAR, rockets, our elemental base is none. As for the pilots, where did they manage to show themselves? In Korea, the best of the best flew, on the latest MiGs and the score was fiftift, not the boys arrived in Israel either, and the Jews lost the fight in the “dry”, Kuzya came to Syria and immediately drowned 2 aircraft.
            Yes, and the Su-57 still, as such, is not. This is the installation party, 12 machines, how it will fly, no one knows.
            1. Amateur
              Amateur April 20 2018 19: 36
              +2
              the best PR in the world
            2. turbris
              turbris April 20 2018 20: 16
              +26
              What do you know about our engines, AFAR and element base? According to your statements - nothing, advertisements about the F-22 and the clever oneself have been read. You prefer the US Air Force, so write on their website and there’s nothing to spread nonsense about the air force of your country or not yours? Our VKS actually work out in Syria with a record number of sorties, and do not appear in commercials like your favorites.
              1. mvg
                mvg April 20 2018 21: 08
                +11
                What is the performance characteristics of engines difficult to find on the internet? 70% of the components in satellites are imported, that we are 20 years behind in the elemental industry, that we still do not have a serial AFAR, that we made the first engine (new) for the first time in 20 years with something PS-14, no coverage, no re-binding cabs too. We lag behind in the composite, the first composite on the Su-47 was just there. That we are still picking up unexploded missiles in order to learn something, either in Cuba or in Syria.
                Look at the sorties in 1991, at least no worse. Here the bourgeoisie do not try.
                PS: There is nothing to just throw all the hats, ran up already. And in Finnish, and in 41
                1. sir.jonn
                  sir.jonn April 20 2018 21: 49
                  +12
                  Quote: mvg
                  we are 20 years behind

                  Well, happily you continue to fall behind, but in Russia we have all the norm.
                  1. mvg
                    mvg April 20 2018 22: 36
                    +7
                    This is my job. I know processors with 8086 and 286, almost all chipsets since 98. Domestic modern processors are doing in Taiwan. A matrix with a decent technological processor cannot be mastered, but this is the main thing. Only in Rogozin's words are nanotechnologies.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 02
                      +4
                      Quote: mvg
                      I know processors with 8086 and 286, almost all chipsets since 98.

                      Did you hear something about Budeny Anatoly Pavlovich?
                      He invented the processor in 1967! producing 50 million operations per second.

                      Such a processor at that time in the West was not even close.
                      1. Dezinto
                        Dezinto April 21 2018 00: 07
                        +5
                        Damn, it's terribly simple. Where is justice in the world? request
                        I’m completely upset. Sleek boys who reached the diploma just sit in chairs. And not only land cruisers.
                        And seasoned, knowledgeable, real scientists will nibble. It should not be! It is not right!
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: DEZINTO
                        Damn, it's terribly simple.

                        This is not terrible, it is a disgrace to our government, which does not value the people who made our country great.
                        Quote: DEZINTO
                        It should not be!

                        But there it is. And no one, damn it, will answer. Here is the scary thing.
                      3. mvg
                        mvg April 21 2018 01: 05
                        +3
                        And was the size of a bus? I saw SM-2M in 96, occupied a room.
                        Now the lag is what he said. When modern electronics were assembled in the West, they put lamps on us, and not from a good life. And there is hardly any way to catch up.
                        We have a lot of good things, but something is simply not there.
                        Good luck.
                      4. G A_2
                        G A_2 April 21 2018 10: 05
                        0
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: mvg
                        I know processors with 8086 and 286, almost all chipsets since 98.

                        Did you hear something about Budeny Anatoly Pavlovich?
                        He invented the processor in 1967! producing 50 million operations per second.

                        Such a processor at that time in the West was not even close.

                        Yeah ... hell ..... no words
                    2. poquello
                      poquello April 21 2018 00: 39
                      +4
                      Quote: mvg
                      This is my job. I know processors with 8086 and 286, almost all chipsets since 98. Domestic modern processors are doing in Taiwan. A matrix with a decent technological processor cannot be mastered, but this is the main thing. Only in Rogozin's words are nanotechnologies.

                      ))))) really rzhach, what kind of abracadabra is this? "86-286 from 98", "almost all chipsets", and finally they don’t do it, but they are placing production, do you like to read this? read about office systemic domestic, preferably in flops
                      1. mvg
                        mvg April 21 2018 02: 58
                        +3
                        8086 and 286 are the very first processors .. practically. Chipsets, this is what all devices bundle together. I don’t read the TTX, or rather I practice, thousands of computers and various devices passed through my hands. I don’t know about domestic system engineers wassat , What can be called a systematic, now the phone does. Office domestic MOST powerful processor, does not reach the budget INTEL Atoma, which is placed in a palm-sized system.
                        And all the same in Russia only assembly.
                        PS: We are able to assemble a single Supercomputer, but there is no production. And there is no software either, or wretched. Even in India, this is more interesting, and they just rode on elephants.
                    3. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 21 2018 02: 03
                      +3
                      Quote: mvg
                      And was the size of a bus?

                      And you personally are able to create something like that?
                      Good luck.
                      1. mvg
                        mvg April 21 2018 03: 00
                        +2
                        We are now drawing a decent processor architecture, but we cannot implement it.
                    4. neri73-r
                      neri73-r April 22 2018 20: 29
                      0
                      Quote: mvg
                      This is my job. I know processors with 8086 and 286, almost all chipsets since 98. Domestic modern processors are doing in Taiwan. A matrix with a decent technological processor cannot be mastered, but this is the main thing. Only in Rogozin's words are nanotechnologies.

                      Oh, it's all gone, how are we still living ????????? wassat Well, suitcase, train station, West !!!! And here we are, somehow, .......... without you. hi
                2. Black Colonel
                  Black Colonel April 21 2018 12: 11
                  +3
                  "That we are still picking up unexploded missiles in order to learn something, either in Cuba or in Syria."
                  But nothing that in Korea and Vietnam, the Americans were hunting for MiGs in order to inquire about their capabilities? Eksperd do not build yourself, you will look smarter.
                  1. mvg
                    mvg April 21 2018 12: 42
                    0
                    Just like ours behind Sabers ... YOUR comment is empty. Something new appears, I immediately want it. There are states, even Bastions buy in the amount of 2 pieces.
                    And we wouldn’t refuse the Penguin, and we pick up the crashed UAVs. This is normal.
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 26
              +2
              Quote: mvg
              As for the pilots, where did they manage to show themselves?

              Have you just arrived from Mars? Syria is not enough for you?
              Quote: mvg
              In Korea, the best of the best flew, on the latest MiGs and the score was wifi,

              No need to pi ... lie ... the alignment is exactly one-to-two shot down in air fights in favor of the MIGs ...
              Quote: mvg
              not boys arrived in Israel, but the Jews lost the battle in the “dry”,

              And why do not the Jews fly into Syrian airspace, but hammer it from Lebanon?
              Quote: mvg
              Kuzya came to Syria and immediately drowned 2 aircraft.

              And are the flyers to blame? What the hell?
              Quote: mvg
              12 cars, how will fly, no one knows.

              Let’s take a look. Not for SU-57 I started a discussion ...
              1. mvg
                mvg April 20 2018 23: 23
                +5
                Andrew, in Korea and the USA and the USSR each gave their numbers, the truth in the middle. Although our conditions were more comfortable.
                Why should Jews fly in, why risk in vain under air defense? Meaning?
                Ours fly well, but there is no air defense, the Americans at 91 were more difficult. Against almost the strongest air defense in the BV.
                Regarding the drown, there was recently a video how the cable broke under Hokai and he went to the second round.
                About 12 cars, but no one thought that they had only stayed in Syria for 2 days and that the military did not like it right away and that the Indians did not like it? Not for nothing.
                What can I say about the F-35, of which there are already 200 pieces, and two of the three models have already reached combat readiness, flown more than 100000 hours with one accident, and we even have old accident engines.
                PS: No hatred. The only thing I believe in is in the Strategic Missile Forces. This is what holds back, not flying nuclear reactors, hyperpuper rockets and Daggers. And why again got involved in an arms race? Did you heal well?
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: mvg
                  No hatred.

                  Why did you decide that I am engaged in hobby-writing? I repeat, I did not start a conversation about the SU-57 ...
                  The second ... everyone always has problems when creating a new fighter. And the 57th is no exception. Another question is what we will get at the exit ... and in this regard, I have a well-founded belief that the SU-57 is serial, if I may say so (I do not like these journalistic divisions into generations), we will get a 5 + generation fighter ...
                  What is ready, what is being tested, what is being redone so far, and for another 20 years no one will recognize by the 57th. I think he will be put into production in the year 20. Why? Because, as I said back in '13, the adversary will not wait for us. We either catch up or do not rock the boat.
                  Quote: mvg
                  What can I say about the F-35, of which for 200 pieces

                  Do not align a heavy IFI with a lightweight one not even a fighter. Mattresses can stamp them for how much money is enough, but in essence, this is Lockhit’s worst product in the last 30 years.
                  1. Anti-Corr.
                    Anti-Corr. April 21 2018 01: 04
                    +2
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Why did you decide that I am engaged in hobby-writing?

                    Tell wink Recently there was an attack on missile defense missile defense by Jewish rockets, everyone agreed that 50% of the air defense of the SAR was demolished ... and why, then, only a hundred "Indian tubes" didn’t reach? Question times! And remember what the SSI told you, I hope Sergey Ivanovich has authority for you, about the 57th car, I apologize.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 21 2018 01: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Anti-Corr.
                      And remember what the SSI told you, I hope Sergey Ivanovich has authority for you, about the 57th car, I apologize.

                      Wow ... but do not really remind me, what did Sergei Ivanovich say to me on the SU-57? I’m very interested to listen ..
                      1. Anti-Corr.
                        Anti-Corr. April 21 2018 01: 34
                        +2
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Wow ... but do not really remind me, what did Sergei Ivanovich say to me on the SU-57? I’m very interested to listen ..

                        He said, I apologize. Yu learn materiel. hi
                    2. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 21 2018 01: 59
                      +2
                      Quote: Anti-Corr.
                      He said, I apologize. Yu learn materiel.

                      Another lie again. He NEVER said that. The third time you distort not only my words, but also the person whom I respect and who respects me.
                      Aren't you ashamed to lie so clumsy?
                2. poquello
                  poquello April 21 2018 00: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: mvg
                  Ours fly well, but there is no air defense, the Americans at 91 were more difficult. Against almost the strongest air defense in the BV.

                  Well, what can I say ?, in vain not the most powerful air defense in Vanuatu, stubbornness is your skate? I think it’s not the first year here - and everything about the bathhouse, if the air defense has a ceiling and the bombers have the opportunity to work behind it - then further, as a child, take away the candy
                3. askort154
                  askort154 April 21 2018 07: 31
                  +3
                  mvg .....What to say about the F-35, of which there are already 200 pieces, and two of the three models have already reached combat readiness, flown over 100000 hours with one accident, and we even have old accident engines.

                  This PR advertisement for the F-35 is already battered. Dangles on the Internet for 5 years, and you are an "IT guru", do not be ashamed to spread it here.
                  About what, about what, and about the "merits" of the F-35, tell your grandmother. I would look at your beloved SAS-ku, wherever she is now, being in the place of the USSR. If it were divided into states and everything was destroyed to the ground. With pessimistic provocateurs like you, the country cannot be restored at all. Hold on yes
                4. Black Colonel
                  Black Colonel April 21 2018 12: 15
                  +1
                  “that they only stayed in Syria for 2 days and the military didn’t like something at once, and what did the Indians dislike? Not for nothing.”
                  The military themselves informed you that they didn’t like something there?
                  Turkeys always do not like something. Look, with fighters for how many years they won’t give birth to a contract. And there Rafali and the Hornets appear.
            4. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 21 2018 11: 32
              +3
              Quote: mvg
              In Korea, the best of the best flew, on the latest MiGs and the score was wifi,

              "Fifty-fifty" was in the final stages. The final account 3: 1 is not in favor of USAF for lost aircraft, and 2: 1 for losses of personnel.
          3. Don
            Don April 20 2018 19: 30
            +9
            Quote: NEXUS
            SU-57 is really better.

            The raptor has been in service since the end of the shaggy 90's, and the Su-57 has not even been adopted yet. To brag about the fact that after 20 with a ponytail of years we created a plane, perhaps with a little better performance, to say the least, is stupid. If God forbid that in the recent past, ours would have to fight on the outdated Su-27 against Predators. The result of such battles would be depressing. In the near future, our Su-57 will have to confront the sixth-generation Yusov planes. Do you think this is normal?
            Quote: NEXUS
            another question is that our flyers are much better.

            In what terms, if the pilots of the potential enemy raid more?
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith April 20 2018 19: 37
              +1
              Well, why, and Su-30 (mod Su-27), and Su-35? I understand the difficult and all that, but still.
              1. Don
                Don April 20 2018 19: 49
                +3
                Quote: Lord of the Sith
                Well, why, and Su-30 (mod Su-27), and Su-35? I understand the difficult and all that, but still.

                I wrote about the recent past and the near future. Regarding today, the situation is not much better. Or do you think the Su-30 and Su-35 are worthy competitors to the Raptor?
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith April 20 2018 20: 27
                  0
                  I ask, therefore, I asked the question at the end.
                2. poquello
                  poquello April 20 2018 22: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  Or do you think the Su-30 and Su-35 are worthy competitors to the Raptor?

                  Well, in general, no one confirmed, although he did not refute, and cartoons with daggers cause more confidence than cartoons about successful raptors battles with our 4 ++, I already asked a very trivial question for all these estimates - the anti-missile maneuver is a regular tactical element of our super-maneuverable aircraft which by bourgeois estimates is clearly deprived of attention
                3. KaPToC
                  KaPToC April 20 2018 22: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  Or do you think the Su-30 and Su-35 are worthy competitors to the Raptor?

                  They are a head stronger than a raptor.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 19: 42
              +8
              Quote: Donskoy
              In the near future, our Su-57 will have to confront the sixth generation of Yusov’s aircraft.

              Are you serious about the 6 generation?
              Quote: Donskoy
              In what terms, if the pilots of the potential enemy raid more?

              Sure?
              1. Don
                Don April 20 2018 19: 52
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                Are you serious about the 6 generation?

                Do you think that after the creation of the F-22, the Americans dismissed their designers home?
                Quote: NEXUS
                Sure?

                What do you mean sure? I rely on official data, and you on what?
                1. NN52
                  NN52 April 20 2018 20: 40
                  +6
                  Don

                  This is what official raid data do you rely on? Amerov?
                  Or from our MO?
                  You would have tempered your horism here, regarding the raid of our guys ...
                  Umnov was found ...
                  I do not recommend arguing.
                  1. Don
                    Don April 20 2018 20: 54
                    +4
                    Did you even want to say something, wise guy? recourse
                    1. NN52
                      NN52 April 20 2018 21: 08
                      +4
                      You understood perfectly ..
                      Give of the data on the raid by amers and our pilots.
                      Then you will continue to shoot from a machine gun .. Vasily Ivanovich ..
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                  2. G A_2
                    G A_2 April 20 2018 21: 22
                    +2
                    Quote: NN52
                    Don

                    This is what official raid data do you rely on? Amerov?
                    Or from our MO?
                    You would have tempered your horism here, regarding the raid of our guys ...
                    Umnov was found ...
                    I do not recommend arguing.

                    Our, amersky, Israeli pilots are excellent pros. But from my couch I’ll still assume that rich amers will have more hours of combat pilots. I will not argue
                    1. NN52
                      NN52 April 20 2018 21: 37
                      +2
                      G A_2

                      You are not expecting it that way ....
                      As for Israel, and even more so for amers, the flight time among combat pilots has decreased ... Ours have grown significantly ...
                      Let's see what the tea answers ...
                      1. G A_2
                        G A_2 April 20 2018 22: 52
                        0
                        Quote: NN52
                        G A_2

                        You are not expecting it that way ....
                        As for Israel, and even more so for amers, the flight time among combat pilots has decreased ... Ours have grown significantly ...
                        Let's see what the tea answers ...

                        I'm only glad
                    2. NEXUS
                      NEXUS April 20 2018 21: 53
                      0
                      Quote: G A_2
                      I will assume that rich amers will have more hours of combat pilots

                      Not true. For our flyers, the flying hours have increased, for mattresses they have greatly decreased.
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS April 20 2018 21: 50
                  +3
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  Do you think that after the creation of the F-22, the Americans dismissed their designers home?

                  They did much worse ... from the breakthrough technologies that they had in the 80s, they created consumer goods for vassals in order to cash in. You have never been embarrassed by the question, why did the lizards of the mattress refuse to let the Britons import their blood allies into import?
                  For 30 years, they were sure that they had broken Russia ... but it turned out that we bent down to raise the mount. And this is not cheap cheers-patriotism. Syria results confirm this.
                  At the same time, they even flaunted the topic of hyper weapons mediocre.
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  I rely on official data,

                  Can I have comparative data in the studio? For example, I know that there are more raids on our flyers. At the same time, taking into account the fact that our pilots are “driven out” through Syria, I’ll say that their combat raid is higher. Take a look at such a moment as the effectiveness of the number of sorties, and destroyed targets. Mattresses are not nearby.
                  So I'm waiting for YOUR data on the raid, please.
                3. KaPToC
                  KaPToC April 20 2018 22: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  Do you think that after the creation of the F-22, the Americans dismissed their designers home?

                  After creating the abrams, they "dismissed all the designers home," and after creating the moon rocket, too, "dismissed all the designers home."

                  But seriously - then the Americans are just waiting for the Russians to bind, so that later they will shamelessly tear, how they torn stealth technologies, how they torn "vertical take-off", I note that not with the British, but with the Russians.
            3. Норд
              Норд April 20 2018 20: 03
              +9
              Donskoy. What generation? Are they already developing sho? A continuous stream of inflamed consciousness. Americans can’t bring a penguin to their minds for the 11th year, but Monsieur is already the 6th generation .... You’d change your avatar to a David star and whine further. Already painfully foul under the portrait of Chapaev such nonsense sounds.
              1. Don
                Don April 20 2018 20: 23
                +4
                You would go to the doctors, maybe not everything has disappeared and will be able to help.
                Quote: Nord
                Already painfully foul under the portrait of Chapaev such nonsense sounds.

                Nonsense you belch away from yourself, daily and systematically. Such supporters of thieves and ghouls of the people like you, my fellow countryman Chapaev especially did not spare and did the right thing yes
                1. Норд
                  Норд April 20 2018 20: 29
                  +3
                  Mdya How everything is launched: "daily and systematically ... supporters of thieves and ghouls of the people." What did you want to say something sickly? Go open the door - orderlies are knocking.
                  1. Russian jacket
                    Russian jacket April 21 2018 04: 59
                    0
                    Not just launched. VO begins to turn into some kind of BABR. Sorry...
                2. dr.star75
                  dr.star75 April 20 2018 20: 41
                  0
                  6th is likely to be unmanned. Although even preliminary technical specifications for 6th generation aircraft have not yet been developed, it can already be said that: 1-radio stealth will be realized due to something like a plasma, and it is not known how it will affect a person. 2. Improvement beyond maneuverability - pilot capabilities are already lagging behind aircraft capabilities. and 3.- it’s not over, but rather hypersound, and the pilot is no longer able to react so quickly, and most importantly, 4 is the artificial intelligence of the machine
                  1. KaPToC
                    KaPToC April 20 2018 22: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: dr.star75
                    6th is likely to be unmanned.

                    Will not be. Unmanned aircraft does not exclude manned, but complements.
                    Quote: dr.star75
                    1

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                    2

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                    3

                    Quote: dr.star75
                    4

                    The sixth generation aircraft will be aerospace.
                3. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis April 20 2018 22: 47
                  +1
                  Rude dear! Are you a teenager? Or use the fire water of rudeness for!?
                  1. Don
                    Don April 21 2018 08: 43
                    +1
                    I don’t have the habit of politely bowing when a person in the first comment is rude to me and trying to insult me. My character is different and always brought up to give change. Here you are too, they have climbed where you are not being asked, and they also call you a teenager and want to put up drunk for some reason. The question is, why do you need this? Have you no other business?
            4. 22 dmdc
              22 dmdc April 21 2018 14: 50
              0
              A chest in the sea also SWIMMED for 20 years, but did not become a sailor.
          4. Slovak
            Slovak April 20 2018 20: 10
            +2
            [quote [quote = [/ quote]
            Dear, the SU-57 is really better ... another question is that our flyers are much better. [/ Quote]
            our Ministry of Defense was discussing with a representative of the ruling party the question of how to organize retraining of pilots in Russia, or to attract instructors from Russia, but in such a way as not to get hit by NATO. This is after a large article on the results of aviation in Syria. So, there are no professionals, there is propaganda and fairy tales
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 15
              +2
              Quote: Slovak
              So, there are no professionals, there is propaganda and fairy tales

              Of course there are no professionals ... in Syria, amateurs in Hmeimim fly from an aircraft modeling club.
              And do not remind you, thanks to whom the course of the war turned back to ISIS and to the mattresses? Didn’t our guys from the VKS leveled the warehouses, columns, ISIS headquarters? And to remind you how many flights our flyers had in the first months when we got into Syria?
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            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 57
              +1
              Quote: Flying Iron
              a victory over a Soviet pilot was much less appreciated than a victory over an English or American one because of a brighter level of training for the latter.

              After the war, Kozhedub two aces mattresses playfully alone stuck into the ground after the war.
              What was valued lower during the Second World War ... in what period? If we are talking about 41-42 years, then yes, maybe, maybe the young people who went through the three-month courses and went into action at the helm ... But further, sorry, you are very dissemble.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 20 2018 19: 03
          +8
          What a shame that the owner messed up crap? Wrap around. And for Su57 you first fasted. Is your night wet fear?
        3. Tersky
          Tersky April 20 2018 20: 38
          +7
          Quote: Flying Iron
          Why are they hanging noodles there, and it’s clear to the hedgehog that Su-57 is much cooler

          How sad crying It turns out that even the hedgehog is smarter than you.
        4. ALEXXX1983
          ALEXXX1983 April 20 2018 22: 38
          0
          Quote: Flying Iron
          Why are they hanging noodles there, and it’s clear to the hedgehog that Su-57 is much cooler

          F 22 is a good plane. But the Su 57 will really be better, because the Raptor is no longer very new and some technologies have improved since then.
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K April 20 2018 18: 33
      +12
      ... the invisible fighters provided support for the American troops and allied forces operating on Earth ...
      ... Previously, the participation of F-22 in this operation was not reported ...

      Tin-plate wassat
      Either smart missiles or invisible fighters lol
      As they are with such galactic technology, Assad still suffers laughing
      1. Borik
        Borik April 20 2018 18: 45
        +4
        That's why they are invisible that no one saw them.
    3. Sergey985
      Sergey985 April 20 2018 18: 35
      +1
      And what, he coped with the task. Ground units intact. Why not promote invisibility. And it is impossible to refute! laughing
    4. Shahno
      Shahno April 20 2018 18: 40
      +5
      And what’s the problem? Well, he covered and covered. It is strange that not your sources reported ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 45
        +7
        Quote: Shahno
        And what’s the problem? Well, he covered and covered. It is strange that not your sources reported ...

        Question-Why? Did the Syrian air defense accomplish the task? Yes ... but what was there hanging in the air only interests Jews and mattresses.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno April 20 2018 18: 53
          +5
          And what was the task? Factories have been hit hard. No one planned to attack the bases. They scared a little bit ... What is a dozen missiles without a reb, a distracting blow to the airfield from even with medium air defense. Well, there will be 6 missiles ... More damage than you had in the new year, there will be no scare ... It seems that it was about chemical weapons, if I'm not mistaken.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 20 2018 19: 00
            +7
            Quote: Shahno
            Factories hit hard

            What?
            Quote: Shahno
            so, scare ...

            Excuse me, has the scarecrow grown?
            1. Shahno
              Shahno April 20 2018 19: 12
              +4
              SIC, Barze ... SIC, Jamrayiya ... Masyaf ...
              1. Scoun
                Scoun April 20 2018 20: 21
                +4
                Quote: Shahno
                SIC, Barze ... SIC, Jamrayiya ... Masyaf ...

                From where both the equipment and the people were taken out in a few days.
                A dummy for show, even the watchman was not injured.
                But now we can say that the chemical laboratories calicia light elves destroyed.
            2. Shahno
              Shahno April 20 2018 19: 32
              +2
              Well, do not scare, of course. Not correctly expressed, but to identify and highlight ...
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 April 20 2018 18: 49
        +3
        If he was there, our air defense did not detect him, this is a minus
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 54
          +8
          Quote: dr.star75
          If he was there, our air defense did not detect him, this is a minus

          Where does this statement come from? Or did we have to yell to the whole world that we see it? Let them think that he is invisible. So much wiser.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno April 20 2018 19: 21
            +4
            Strange about invisible, smart, beautiful rockets yelling. Why such a love for F 22 .... About Tornado reported, about B1-B reported. By the way, is Barza not the zone of responsibility of Damascus air defense (with the highest saturation of air defense in Syria)? Or well, figs with him, we’ll still build.
            1. kventinasd
              kventinasd April 20 2018 21: 40
              0
              American warriors need to somehow justify themselves to their electorate for such a failure of the operation, which is why they launch various ducks in the form of invisible raptors in order to somehow belittle the Russian Air Force, but they can do this only with the statements of Heather Nauert and others. In fact, everything is sad for them. I periodically read their press.
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 April 20 2018 19: 54
            +1
            Against the background of the statement of our Ministry of Defense that all launches were controlled, and how much which complex shot down, there was no statement about the raptor spans. Now our MO should either refute these words, or confirm. Otherwise, it will look like our air defense system did not see them.
          3. Tusv
            Tusv April 20 2018 20: 04
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Let them think that he is invisible. So much wiser.

            Not. He's really cool. And bothering with the teleportation effect: Dropped in Syria, falls in Arizona bully
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 21: 56
              +2
              Quote: Tusv
              Not. He's really cool. And bothering with the teleportation effect: Dropped in Syria, falls in Arizona

              Vladimir, but where did the wood come from about the fact that he was there alone? wassat He is a stealth-bumblebee invisible, because it means there could be hundreds of them, and we are not a dream and not a spirit. laughing
              1. Tusv
                Tusv April 21 2018 08: 50
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Vladimir, but where did the wood come from about the fact that he was there alone?

                Sorry Andrei for not responding right away. Somehow unexpectedly Friday ended in a healthy sleep.
                So I spoke about the brand of the pepelats, and not about the number of small predators
              2. 73bor
                73bor April 21 2018 09: 19
                0
                Now you don’t see him (F-22), but he IS! lol
      3. SPACE
        SPACE April 20 2018 18: 51
        +4
        Quote: Shahno
        And what’s the problem? Well, he covered and covered. It is strange that not your sources reported ...

        And who is talking about the problems? He covered, well, and to hell with him, whom did he cover there, carriers in non-affected areas? Or just hanging out like in an ice holelol no one needed him there. But you believe, believe, you are the only witnesses to his invisibility wassat
      4. Alex777
        Alex777 April 20 2018 19: 57
        +3
        And what’s the problem? Well, he covered and covered. It is strange that not your sources reported ...

        Yes, it’s not at all strange. It is strange that those who reported did this only today. laughing
        And it’s understandable why - all polymers have been profiled, so they are trying to jam something else to strengthen the picture, which itself has fallen apart. laughing
        If you say that for 3 goals it’s normal to launch 105 missiles - they will laugh at you so that even you hear. hi
        1. Shahno
          Shahno April 20 2018 20: 00
          +2
          And already explained a possible alignment. By the way, in which the current reaction from both sides is possible.
          "I believe that not all objects were shown. Let's say that there were serious damage on four. 105 missiles were fired, for those reasons 100 remained, fifteen went for other purposes. The remainder of 85 went to four targets. 50 percent reflect shells, etc. ( with Russian instructors). It remains to be seen whether the 5 cr and 5 agm 158 are capable of causing such destruction. Why not? "
          PS It is not possible to determine the eff. in the first days, no matter how the monitor, you do not have the data which lts or traps worked, in the first days the percentages are all overstated .... Or is this news for you?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 20 2018 23: 31
            +2
            As for the Tomahawks, the Yankees said they tested rockets with video cameras and the possibility of course correction according to these cameras a year ago. That is, they have a connection with the rocket in real time.
            Of course, they could launch old missiles. But do not know where they flew away (especially when the F-22 helped a lot), this is unrealistic tops. To provide a strike, both satellites and AWACS, and much more, are involved. And, unlike ours, they know exactly where and how these missiles should fly. hi
    5. lopvlad
      lopvlad April 20 2018 18: 46
      +6
      Quote: NEXUS
      where is captain america?


      almost half a year in a coma, after a collision with the deer of Santa Claus.
      There was only one F-22, and since it is invisible, according to the Americans, you can always say, "He was there and you just did not see him."
      Though our “Varshavyanka” on April 14 had some fun chasing the “bald” submarine of the “mistress of the seas” in the Mediterranean Sea.
    6. san4es
      san4es April 20 2018 18: 52
      +8
      Quote: NEXUS
      According to this statement, the pangolin was stupidly standing on a skater.

      fellow ... "He raised the pairs" ... For 0.01 min. fuse valve worked smile
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma April 20 2018 19: 09
        +3
        Did he get diapers, or did they drag him into the cockpit?
      2. NN52
        NN52 April 20 2018 20: 47
        +1
        san4es

        Thank you for the video...
        But what an emission of white smoke, I don’t know .... It would be very nice to listen to techies ,,,
        1. san4es
          san4es April 20 2018 20: 59
          +2
          hi ... Hi...
          white smoke emission

          ...-- Nozzles junk laughing ... Or the mechanic forgot where the powder bag was hidden bully
          1. NN52
            NN52 April 20 2018 21: 16
            +1
            san4es
            laughing
            Well, I suppose ... the air conditioning system ...

            With injectors set off ... But probably a diesel, a particulate filter ... (I have gasoline) ...
            laughing lol laughing
            1. san4es
              san4es April 20 2018 21: 39
              +3
              Quote: NN52
              .... (I have gasoline) ...
              laughing lol laughing

              ... stop - then the ignition is late laughing
              ..There should be an APU launch (in fact) winked
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 20 2018 21: 58
            +1
            Quote: san4es
            Nozzles junk

            Or maybe the air supply system again ...
            1. san4es
              san4es April 20 2018 22: 10
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              ... air supply system ...

              ... We have the same on the T-80 sad
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 17
                +1
                Quote: san4es
                .We have the same on the T-80

                There is a slight difference ... our 80th in the field is maintainable, but a lizard?
                1. san4es
                  san4es April 20 2018 22: 24
                  +3
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  ... our 80th in the field is maintainable, but a lizard?

                  laughing Normal comparison laughing
                2. NN52
                  NN52 April 20 2018 22: 26
                  0
                  NEXUS

                  I see you are bolder ...
                  You and the 80th in the field repaired turns out to be?
                  I did not go into your comments, do not run up.
                  I warned you.
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              2. Filxnumx
                Filxnumx April 21 2018 17: 47
                +1
                "craftsmen" bl ... The combustion chamber was filled with keros after the first failed launch (and it was 100%). There is no need to make the HFA, to blow out the engine, they create such “fireworks”, and then they show their flies to everyone, s.p.ec.i.a.l.i.st.s. In the 80s in the Kharkov Aviation Engineering, one group (30 people) was specially sent to the tank troops for release. And they sewed uniforms immediately with a combined arms with tank black buttonholes. Yes, now their flow has dried up since they trust the operation of the gas turbine engine to all the craps. So the result is obvious, it’s good that it’s not on the face.
                And about the exhaust from the pangolin, I venture to suggest that this is a powder start of an air starter engine. Americans really love this kind of thing: it’s cheap and do not carry the APU engine with a dead weight, weighing 150-200 kg. And the starter for the Yascherovsky dj will pull 10 kg
                1. san4es
                  san4es April 21 2018 18: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Fil743
                  ... I venture to suggest that this is a powder start of an air starter engine.

                  hi ... did not know about such recourse ... That’s the thing, immediately, start the motor with compressed air ...
    7. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper April 20 2018 21: 15
      0
      Interestingly, and the chapel in the 13th century, too, he wassat
    8. poquello
      poquello April 20 2018 21: 49
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      True, where is Captain America? wassat

      the weight drives, was about to go over to the weight of an ant man, and finally - do not touch Hollywood, Marvel - Zebest
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 19
        +3
        Quote: poquello
        the weight drives, was about to go over to the weight of an ant man, and finally - do not touch Hollywood, Marvel - Zebest

        Mattresses need Marvel’s heroes to feel that someone will come and save ... but we don’t need this, we didn’t have cartoon characters, they are and will be. And the same Iron Man can not be compared with the same Filipov, who is a real super-hero, and not drawn in comics.
    9. 73bor
      73bor April 21 2018 09: 14
      0
      And no one doubts that they provided protection, on duty at the airport!
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 20 2018 18: 19
    +9
    According to officials, stealth fighters provided support for American troops and allied forces operating on Earth, while the United States, France and Britain attacked chemical objects in western Syria.
    That is, they supported the “barmaley” in their attack on the SAA ... An honorable role, an honorable one. All waiting for him, some sort of "Bedouin" "Stinger" will land
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 April 20 2018 18: 26
      +8
      Hmm .. The farther into the forest the thicker the barmalei! They want to tell us that the most expensive aircraft in history is used as an attack aircraft for direct support of ground forces? At night?
      Firstly, it is clear why no one saw them - it was dark.
      Secondly, no 700 lard is enough for anything with such a creative approach! bully
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 20 2018 19: 41
        0
        By the way, in another topic I wrote something like that. The Pentagon spends out of 711 billion on modernization and the purchase of new weapons, only 8% 56,88 billion. The rest goes to salaries, insurance, supply of numerous bases and the purchase of fuel and ammunition.
      2. MadCat
        MadCat April 21 2018 05: 11
        0
        Quote: Alex777
        yes .. The farther into the forest the thicker the barmalei! They want to tell us that the most expensive aircraft in history is used as an attack aircraft for direct support of ground forces? At night?

        As a scout spotter why not? He thought like that as well. request
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 20 2018 18: 31
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      That is, they supported the “barmaley” in their attack on the SAA ...

      The message of this statement is one-air defense Russian and Syrian did not see the Lizard, which means it is full of trash and voters can sleep peacefully.
      Only if he was there, (which I strongly doubt), then our air defense nicknames saw him without a doubt. Another question is that the pangolin, like that elusive Joe ... the fuck in that story no one needed. At the same time, why did the mattresses shoot so neatly, with such a powerful cover?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 20 2018 19: 43
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        The message of this statement is one-air defense Russian and Syrian did not see the Lizard, which means it is full of trash and voters can sleep peacefully.

        Somehow, at that moment, the air defense forces were otherwise busy and since the “dinosaurs” didn’t shoot, no one touched them
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 37
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Somehow, at that moment, the air defense forces were otherwise busy and since the “dinosaurs” didn’t shoot, no one touched them

          Here, half of the commentators took it all for the truth. Well, the Israeli diaspora seemed to be just waiting for the go-ahead with the “fas” team.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno April 20 2018 22: 41
            +1
            Well, as if they were just waiting for statements and reactions from your MO.
  3. impostor
    impostor April 20 2018 18: 22
    +2
    Yeah, as well as the Fu-35 TsHAL no one noticed in the SAR
  4. 76SSSR
    76SSSR April 20 2018 18: 23
    +7
    By the way, it’s very successful to ascertain the presence of stealth somewhere, to your objection, they say, they were not there, they will answer you - they are stealth so that you do not see them there.))
  5. antivirus
    antivirus April 20 2018 18: 25
    +1
    that’s why we need liquid old ICBMs (and chemical production in Russia) - for the number of hits, without the quality of “superiority”.
    to spend money on “lotions”? - while junk is effective.
  6. Yak28
    Yak28 April 20 2018 18: 32
    +4
    F-22 is invisible, no one has noticed and felt it and its actions. wink
  7. 452336
    452336 April 20 2018 18: 44
    +1
    Marketing move. Buy American. We similarly move our weapons
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 20 2018 18: 47
    0
    That is, now a new wave of information war has begun - the United States is laying out its shoals as a victory, and in "confirmation" of its fairy tales they mold here f22, f 35, like supermega!
  9. pogon
    pogon April 20 2018 18: 48
    +4
    Handsome, no one is coming. And by the way, how many fireworks from 120 and 12 more missiles cost. And to whom? And due to what.
  10. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD April 20 2018 18: 50
    +7
    The role of the gopher hybrid with the elusive joe is important and undeniable ... It looks more like a children's "declaration" - and I have .. and I have .. ,,, that's what .., and you, you .. radishes .. here. .. (hereinafter tears and untranslatable sobs). The lizard, of course, is a good airplane, but to drag it in to shut up your incontinence is silly ...
    1. SPACE
      SPACE April 20 2018 19: 24
      +2
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      but to drag it in to shut up your incontinence is stupid ...

      They, a believer or a taxpayer and a taxpayer, must necessarily prove that the tomahawks flew, 70 of axes into one shed, that was the task explained, the whole Wagner was soaked, the Chief Clown himself carried a blizzard for it, and now the raptor was dragged, what will happen next? request
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD April 20 2018 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: SPACE
        what will happen next?

        Then there will be negotiations, conversations, persuasions. There is a territorial registration of post-war Syria against the background of riots of an unsatisfied hegemon ....
      2. G A_2
        G A_2 April 20 2018 23: 16
        +1
        Quote: SPACE
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        but to drag it in to shut up your incontinence is stupid ...

        They, a believer or a taxpayer and a taxpayer, must necessarily prove that the tomahawks flew, 70 of axes into one shed, that was the task explained, the whole Wagner was soaked, the Chief Clown himself carried a blizzard for it, and now the raptor was dragged, what will happen next? request

        Reinforced concrete monolithic buildings do not need to be called sheds. As for the flown or not flown tomahawks, let's wait for the facts. Moreover, Lavrov promised
  11. Tank hard
    Tank hard April 20 2018 18: 55
    +1
    The advertisement is engine of the trade.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE April 20 2018 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Tank Hard
      The advertisement is engine of the trade.

      Advertising- Raptor Engine laughing
  12. Lex.
    Lex. April 20 2018 18: 55
    +2
    http://www.belvpo.com/ru/92729.html
    It is interesting here the opinion of an expert from the usa
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 April 20 2018 19: 54
      +2
      Nothing interesting - another bleating from the series “we are great, we are powerful!”, Only the expert forgets that Russia still has effective means of detecting both the missiles themselves and their carriers, while the author does not know about the new radars of Russia, which are being built in full, while the author is not aware that, given the size of Russia, it will be either impossible to fly missiles such as an ax or a jasm to half of nuclear objects, or they will fly for a very long time, which will increase the chances of their detection. Well, as for the means of detecting ballistic missile launches, then in the case of Russia one can’t even think of such a launch with impunity. So Russia will have a lot of time to launch its full deployed nuclear arsenal, and given the effectiveness of the modern American missile defense, America will burn ...

      But in one thing, the author is right - the mentality of the modern American administration is identical to that of the leadership of the German Empire at the beginning of the 20th century - a large organized crime group that does not care about people's lives ...
      1. Lex.
        Lex. April 20 2018 20: 12
        +1
        Do not underestimate the enemy
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 April 20 2018 21: 02
          +1
          Quote: Lex.
          Do not underestimate the enemy

          Exactly! Golden words - these words should be put in gold on the plateau and put into the cabinets of all these American experts who think that Russia "will not notice" how hundreds of destroyers with these thousands of tomahawks on board are being pulled to its borders. Moreover, given the size of Russia, the boats will have to almost approach the shore itself in order to reach the targets.
          These golden words on platinum must be hung in the offices of all those "experts." who think that Russia will not notice the mass jamming of its radar and satellites, who think that Russia will not perceive such a situation as aggression and will not immediately launch all the ICBMs on duty ....

          And so yes - "do not underestimate the enemy" - the motto of such great people as Napoleon, such "great" as Hitler ... Americans also want to be "great", apparently. only from such greatness can one become radioactive ashes in the current conditions ...
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 00
          +1
          Quote: Lex.
          Do not underestimate the enemy

          Do not underestimate yourself, first of all.
  13. Altona
    Altona April 20 2018 18: 57
    +2
    Why did the Raptor help so unique? Probably with its archaic 16-bit OS on board, fully wired communication channels and the ability to fly at an altitude of no more than 6900 meters above the ground.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 20 2018 19: 11
      +4
      The height limit was removed a long time ago. We figured out why the pilot’s oxygen supply system sometimes junk. Outdated software and comp. did not allow the F-22 to work together with other types of aircraft in a single network. Only a year or two ago they installed electronics - "intermediary", eliminating this drawback. But they themselves fly without problems.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic April 20 2018 19: 26
        +2
        The warrior hi Alexey, there was already information on the site that the main problem in the life support system, which created increased pressure in the chest cavity during the maneuvers of the aircraft! Although the system was changed, the pressure now goes not on the chest mainly, on the hips, and as a result, the pilots probably fly in three diapers at once, or in the cockpit constantly stinks of mine! And besides, the restriction is lifted only at the recommendation level if the aircraft does not perform aerobatics! That is, you can climb to a height of over 8000 meters. But maneuvering there is undesirable, otherwise again a lack of oxygen, and a pool of urine in the cabin.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 20 2018 19: 35
          +2
          The topic of diapers is one of the main ones in HE. Thank you for touching it again. fellow It takes the discussion of the subject of any article into the usual direction, relieves stress and tension. good
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic April 20 2018 19: 44
            0
            However, the limitation on the flight altitude really remains! F22 is unsafe to use at a height of over 7000 meters from the surface level!
            1. abvgdeika
              abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 48
              +2
              Where the woods come from laughing
              1. Herculesic
                Herculesic April 20 2018 20: 09
                0
                In the site’s archive, look for materials on this topic, it is specifically there that all the troubles are precisely due to the pilot’s life support system! And that only a complete alteration of the system from scratch can really change the situation. And not the half measures that the United States took.
  14. Radikal
    Radikal April 20 2018 18: 58
    +2
    However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
    Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 20 2018 19: 14
      +3
      As far as I heard, now they are starting to "practice this myth" on the Su-57 - to apply a stealth coating. A lot of trouble, but it can happen.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic April 20 2018 19: 27
        +2
        It is not applied! There, the coating goes as part of the design, and not some kind of film that is glued in a protective suit!
    2. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 19: 22
      +2
      Quote: Radikal
      However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
      Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked

      Invisible to radars, this is a myth. Magazine myth. A plane with reduced radar visibility is not a myth.
  15. Radikal
    Radikal April 20 2018 19: 26
    +1
    Quote: G A_2
    Quote: Radikal
    However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
    Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked

    Invisible to radars, this is a myth. Magazine myth. A plane with reduced radar visibility is not a myth.

    What difference does it make, myth, or reduced radar visibility - I’m saying that it’s time to clarify this issue by testing our air defense systems! wink
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 19: 35
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: G A_2
      Quote: Radikal
      However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
      Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked

      Invisible to radars, this is a myth. Magazine myth. A plane with reduced radar visibility is not a myth.

      What difference does it make, myth, or reduced radar visibility - I’m saying that it’s time to clarify this issue by testing our air defense systems! wink

      I understand you suggest knocking down. Shoot down is not a problem. Problem to detect.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic April 20 2018 20: 13
        0
        So this is not a problem, the main thing is to understand how it can be easily found! In addition, the AFAR in an airplane is turned off altogether, and does not even produce residual radiation? Does a plane in flight, due to friction in dense layers of the atmosphere, not heat up, and does not naturally increase its EPR due to heating? ?? Anti-gravity engines, probably, do not radiate anything, do not heat up again during operation and do not distort the spectrum of air around the aircraft, especially in the tail section, where do these engines stand? ??
  16. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov April 20 2018 19: 27
    +1
    That lies the USA already surpasses all conceivable limits! 120 years to lie in everything, probably has already become congenital.
    1. abvgdeika
      abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 41
      +2
      Why exactly 120?
      The truth is interesting ....
      1. Fedor egoist
        Fedor egoist April 21 2018 13: 41
        0
        Quote: abvgdeika
        Why exactly 120?

        If you sometimes get out of the "News" section, you can find that there are other interesting sections on the VO :) Just recently, an article about Cuba was posted, about the explosion of the cruiser "Maine". 120 years just passed.
  17. Radikal
    Radikal April 20 2018 19: 37
    0
    Quote: G A_2
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: G A_2
    Quote: Radikal
    However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
    Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked

    Invisible to radars, this is a myth. Magazine myth. A plane with reduced radar visibility is not a myth.

    What difference does it make, myth, or reduced radar visibility - I’m saying that it’s time to clarify this issue by testing our air defense systems! wink

    I understand you suggest knocking down. Shoot down is not a problem. Problem to detect.

    "The road will be overpowered by the walking ..." wink
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 19: 53
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: G A_2
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: G A_2
      Quote: Radikal
      However, the main advantage is called stealth technology, which allows the aircraft to be invisible to radars, reports Sight
      Isn't it time to debunk this myth ... winked

      Invisible to radars, this is a myth. Magazine myth. A plane with reduced radar visibility is not a myth.

      What difference does it make, myth, or reduced radar visibility - I’m saying that it’s time to clarify this issue by testing our air defense systems! wink

      I understand you suggest knocking down. Shoot down is not a problem. Problem to detect.

      "The road will be overpowered by the walking ..." wink

      But this is true
  18. APASUS
    APASUS April 20 2018 19: 41
    +1
    F-22 played an integral role in the protection of ground forces during the attack and after the missile attacks
    - said Mark Graff, spokesman for the US Air Force Central Command.
    According to him, thanks to the "unique capabilities" of the fifth generation fighter, the F-22 was the only aircraft capable of operating in the defeat zone of the Syrian air defense and providing air protection for the US and the coalition.

    Somewhere I already heard it? About super super planes, equipment and the whole crap about stealth technology
    I remembered in Yugoslavia!

    All this crap with F-22 advertising will continue until some Arabs fill it with antediluvian system, and then the Yankees stupidly merge as it did with the F117 A Stealth
    1. abvgdeika
      abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 44
      +3
      Well, one shot down, and so what?
      There are no downed planes.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 20 2018 19: 46
        +3
        abvgdeika (Valera) Today, 19:44 ↑
        Well, one shot down, and so what?

        Both! Did the sect go round?
        The only question is how he was shot down, IT IS SAME THE INVISIBLE
        1. abvgdeika
          abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 51
          +3
          Eyes closed yes shot into the sky laughing
          Why is there a sect. Wanted to offend?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 20 2018 19: 54
            +1
            Quote: abvgdeika
            Eyes closed yes shot into the sky laughing

            Of course of course!
            Quote: abvgdeika
            Why is there a sect. Wanted to offend?

            In no case, this is such humor. Usually, guys from Israel are in the sect of worshipers of American weapons and fight hard for it
        2. G A_2
          G A_2 April 20 2018 19: 51
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          abvgdeika (Valera) Today, 19:44 ↑
          Well, one shot down, and so what?

          Both! Did the sect go round?
          The only question is how he was shot down, IT IS SAME THE INVISIBLE

          Twenty five again. Are you a journalist?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 20 2018 19: 58
            +1
            Quote: G A_2
            Again twenty-five.

            In the sect replenishment
            Quote: G A_2
            Are you a journalist?

            No, but what does this change in a fait accompli?
            1. G A_2
              G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 46
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              Quote: G A_2
              Again twenty-five.

              In the sect replenishment
              Quote: G A_2
              Are you a journalist?

              No, but what does this change in a fait accompli?

              Just stop using the term "invisible." Yes, and look for some sort of sect is not necessary. The so-called "stealth" of the aircraft is a serious thing. And we are unfortunately Russia in the role of catching up in this direction
              1. APASUS
                APASUS April 20 2018 21: 00
                0
                Quote: G A_2
                Just stop using the term "invisible."

                From what? I didn’t invent it and probably I shouldn’t close it:
                The National Interest
                Dave majumdar
                The United States is investing tens of billions of dollars in the development of fifth-generation stealth fighters, such as the F-22

                Quote: G A_2
                Yes, and look for some sort of sect is not necessary.

                And you try to call F-22 on the site (manure) and you will understand what the sect is
                Quote: G A_2
                The so-called "stealth" of the aircraft is a serious thing. And we are unfortunately Russia in the role of catching up in this direction

                Who is arguing with you
              2. XXXIII
                XXXIII April 20 2018 21: 22
                +1
                Quote: G A_2
                Just stop using the term "invisible." Yes, and look for some sort of sect is not necessary. The so-called "stealth" of the aircraft is a serious thing. And we are unfortunately Russia in the role of catching up in this direction

                wassat
        3. XXXIII
          XXXIII April 20 2018 19: 55
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          The only question is how he was shot down, IT IS SAME THE INVISIBLE

          So how, also an invisible rocket .... wassat drinks
          1. G A_2
            G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 08
            0
            Quote: XXXIII
            Quote: APASUS
            The only question is how he was shot down, IT IS SAME THE INVISIBLE

            So how, also an invisible rocket .... wassat drinks

            Why grimace. He was knocked down by a thinking guy, a pvoshnik, using what is called a military trick. Nothing supernatural. In general, the lowered ESR of the aircraft is a very important thing. You can’t argue with that
            1. APASUS
              APASUS April 20 2018 20: 17
              +1
              Quote: G A_2
              Why grimace.

              Are you, I’m not grimacing, just stating a fact. I remember the level of information about the capabilities of F117 was beyond the limit. And the production and development program F117 was curtailed after the arrival in a matter of days, which is not typical for the Americans. Secrets crawled out
              Quote: G A_2
              In general, the lowered ESR of the aircraft is a very important thing. You can’t argue with that

              And no one argues, everyone just realized that in certain ranges this trick does not work. But only the sect of fans of American weapons is hammering everyone for this technology. Yes, by the way, look at the latest aircraft from SAAB
            2. Gumma
              Gumma April 20 2018 20: 20
              0
              The trick is when a dust cloud is taken for accompaniment on a TV channel. I recall Sinai, however
      2. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc April 21 2018 15: 02
        0
        The main thing is to start or start.
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 April 20 2018 20: 11
      +2
      The fact that they shot down f117 is largely due to the calculation of air defense and the sloppiness of the pilots. They flew along the same route, almost on schedule, and their cottons guarded them
  19. Amateur
    Amateur April 20 2018 19: 45
    0
    In general, what was it? Spent min 100 green lemons per rocket + cost of operating materiel. The result is no one was killed, almost no injured. There is practically no destruction. And what is ????????????? Only blablabla which Americans (and especially the French) are cool.
    1. abvgdeika
      abvgdeika April 20 2018 19: 52
      +1
      Expires. Seriously.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 20 2018 20: 04
        0
        Quote: abvgdeika
        Expires. Seriously.

        100 lemons is the cost of only missiles. But what about fuel, planes, operation planning, satellite tracking, ships running to the ends of the earth. In order to destroy 100 missiles?
        1. MadCat
          MadCat April 21 2018 05: 20
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          100 lemons is the cost of only missiles. But what about fuel, planes, operation planning, satellite tracking, ships running to the ends of the earth. In order to destroy 100 missiles?

          In Russia, when bullets were shot in caliber, on the greens, on the barracks, it was such exercises and generally needed, in the United States so immediately wasted money, maybe they also conducted unexplored exercises with live firing, at the same time they used the illiquid wink
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 21 2018 08: 52
            0
            Quote: MadCat
            In Russia, when bullets were shot in caliber, on the greens, on the barracks, it was such exercises and generally needed, in the United States so immediately wasted money, maybe they also conducted unexplored exercises with live firing, at the same time they used the illiquid

            Russia constantly has to prove its convictions by business, just to write in a newspaper that the world has become bipolar would have caused laughter in the Western media.
    2. pogon
      pogon April 20 2018 20: 09
      +1
      And by the way, how many fireworks from 120 and another 12 missiles cost. And to whom? And due to what.
    3. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 17
      +1
      Quote: Amateur
      In general, what was it? Spent min 100 green lemons per rocket + cost of operating materiel. The result is no one was killed, almost no injured. There is practically no destruction. And what is ????????????? Only blablabla which Americans (and especially the French) are cool.

      Are you upset that there are no dead or wounded?
      1. Amateur
        Amateur April 21 2018 04: 24
        0
        I am glad that they threw so many grandmas into the wind. Every week on such fireworks and the US public debt will grow by 2 times. Or maybe the printer for printing green candy wrappers will break.
    4. Shahno
      Shahno April 20 2018 20: 27
      +2
      And what was the goal of living power? Your opponent announced goals in advance, like chemical production and storage facilities. weapons. Asked in advance to take security measures. Conducted reconnaissance ... Is it possible how to strike with mines. the threat of infection ... Remove staff ...... And it is better to explode yourself ....
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 20 2018 20: 53
        +2
        Quote: Shahno
        And what was the goal of living power? Your opponent announced goals in advance, like chemical production and storage facilities. weapons. Asked in advance to take security measures. Conducted reconnaissance ... Is it possible how to strike with mines. the threat of infection ... Remove staff ...... And it is better to explode yourself ....

        Why then shoot at all, when everyone was taken out and everyone left ?! lol fool Cheap antlers for grandmothers on the bench of a yard bully .... yes
      2. 22 dmdc
        22 dmdc April 21 2018 15: 12
        0
        So experiment in your kitchen in an apartment building with a jar of bleach. Then you will report on the reaction of neighbors and relatives, if you are alive.
  20. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 20 2018 19: 51
    +5

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!! wassat good
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 20 2018 19: 55
      +1
      And I would buy one ...
  21. XXXIII
    XXXIII April 20 2018 19: 53
    +1
    If it weren’t for the F-22 ... “Unique Features” of the Aircraft Helped US Attack on Syria
    Would fall under EW, would also fall like a sausage and was already on the way to Moscow for disassembly ... lol
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: XXXIII
      If it weren’t for the F-22 ... “Unique Features” of the Aircraft Helped US Attack on Syria
      Would fall under EW, would also fall like a sausage and was already on the way to Moscow for disassembly ... lol

      Kaneshna. EW dropping airplanes this is exactly from the category of myths
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 20 2018 21: 06
        +1
        Quote: G A_2
        Kaneshna. EW dropping airplanes this is exactly from the category of myths

        Well, let them not fall, then let them call the General Staff and ask permission ..... wink
        1. G A_2
          G A_2 April 20 2018 21: 38
          0
          Quote: XXXIII
          Quote: G A_2
          Kaneshna. EW dropping airplanes this is exactly from the category of myths

          Well, let them not fall, then let them call the General Staff and ask permission ..... wink

          Without us, whoever needs it and who needs it so that there would be no big war and there is nothing shameful about this is called up. Military more sane people, unlike politicians
  22. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 April 20 2018 20: 19
    0
    Quote: abvgdeika
    Well, okay, just a very categorical statement.
    Our plane is the most aircraft in the world. good

    Definitely!
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 55
      +1
      Quote: Oleg147741
      Quote: abvgdeika
      Well, okay, just a very categorical statement.
      Our plane is the most aircraft in the world. good

      Definitely!

      It is clear that the SU-57 has not yet been adopted and there is nothing to brag about. This is definitely clear
  23. turbris
    turbris April 20 2018 20: 20
    0
    Who is there and what has been provided to whom is known only to cool specialists from the USA, because no one is trying to check, at least the F-22 advertisement to create even that bread, when they were so disgraced with a blow to Syria.
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 20: 58
      +1
      Quote: turbris
      Who is there and what has been provided to whom is known only to cool specialists from the USA, because no one is trying to check, at least the F-22 advertisement to create even that bread, when they were so disgraced with a blow to Syria.

      Advertising requires products that are going to sell. F22 does not need advertising because it is not for sale to anyone at all
  24. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket April 20 2018 21: 11
    0
    Quote: dr.star75
    Against the background of the statement of our Ministry of Defense that all launches were controlled, and how much which complex shot down, there was no statement about the raptor spans. Now our MO should either refute these words, or confirm. Otherwise, it will look like our air defense system did not see them.

    nothing they should have seen well done (why say so) hi
    and if you haven’t seen, they’ll take note if it’s not fake am
  25. XXXIII
    XXXIII April 20 2018 21: 15
    +1
    As an engineering design solution, all planes are cool ... winked good
  26. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 20 2018 21: 24
    +2
    Super invisibles, hyper aircraft carriers and other technological super-power ...
    And the nursing mothers of those who are being ward and covered are crushing like lice.
    A year, two, three, and Syria will gain a layered air defense system.
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 20 2018 22: 34
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      Super invisibles, hyper aircraft carriers and other technological super-power ...
      And the nursing mothers of those who are being ward and covered are crushing like lice.
      A year, two, three, and Syria will gain a layered air defense system.

      At one time they did all these layered air defense in Iraq and in Syria. Destroyed. Air defense (object) is a temporary, short-lived thing in the war.
    2. MadCat
      MadCat April 21 2018 05: 32
      0
      Quote: Livonetc
      A year, two, three, and Syria will gain a layered air defense system.

      it’s a utopia, layered air defense will require a breakthrough of money and without air cover from key areas will still not bring anything.
  27. Dietmar
    Dietmar April 20 2018 21: 27
    +1
    Like the Elusive Joe ...
  28. NordUral
    NordUral April 20 2018 21: 28
    0
    PR, not even disguised.
  29. NordOst16
    NordOst16 April 20 2018 21: 38
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Holywood and the Pentagon write good tales.

    Our storytellers with air defense come up with worse
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 02
      +2
      Quote: NordOst16
      Our storytellers with air defense come up with worse

      Seriously? Well, ours are safe and airfields too. The offensive continues as usual. Assad remained in power. Two more mattresses were brought to Moscow. Interesting, and who is the biggest winner?
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 April 20 2018 22: 19
        +1
        And how many speeches were there that would drown and bring down everything that rockets could carry. And Western forces bombed our ally under our noses. It is interesting, and when they want to bring democracy to, for example, Belarus, we will also say that the main thing would not hurt our military.
        Well, I didn’t write about this, but about the fact that the drones made on the knee were able to get through the “very, very” air defense and warfare and damage aircraft.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 46
          +3
          Quote: NordOst16
          And how many speeches were there that would drown and bring down everything that rockets could carry.

          Dear, don’t have to put a hamster on a globe ... it was said in black in Russian that carriers will be knocked down IN THE CASE IF OUR CITIZENS WILL HURT.
          Quote: NordOst16
          It is interesting, and when they want to bring democracy to, for example, Belarus, we will also say that the main thing would not hurt our military.

          You yourself are not tired of writing nonsense? The eternal cry that Putin has all been asked, and you are Dartanyan. What have you personally done to make the country a little better?
          Or sit on a salary from the West?
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 April 21 2018 08: 58
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            IN CASE IF OUR CITIZENS WILL HURT

            I’m talking about the fact of the bombing of our ally without the permission of the UN Security Council. This, in theory, is a declaration of war. In the old ones (I don’t know if they are good or not), this ended with a mass planting of democratic birds in Vietnam or Korea. But if the Russian Federation can not afford this, then mb, we started early to download rights? Maybe you should wait until the Russian economy becomes at least 2-1,5 times smaller than the economy of the USA or China?

            Quote: NEXUS
            The eternal cry that Putin is all pros - al, and you are Dartanyan. What have you personally done to make the country a little better?

            Hmm, excuse me, this is his holy duty with which he is already doing so-so, while oil was worth a lot, everything was fine, but as the price fell, problems started right away, I don’t have an economic education, but something tells me that the economy is not the best choice for a future superpower (God forbid).
            And what about my contribution, then my holy duty is to comply with the laws and pay taxes.
      2. G A_2
        G A_2 April 20 2018 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: NordOst16
        Our storytellers with air defense come up with worse

        Seriously? Well, ours are safe and airfields too. The offensive continues as usual. Assad remained in power. Two more mattresses were brought to Moscow. Interesting, and who is the biggest winner?

        My personal opinion is in vain we drown for Assad. I haven’t saved my country. And as for the two products, this is still unconfirmed bullshit
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS April 20 2018 22: 47
          +2
          Quote: G A_2
          My personal opinion is in vain we drown for Assad.

          No one drowns for him. The purpose of our stay in Syria from the very beginning was clearly voiced by the destruction of ISIS. Point.
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            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 20 2018 23: 08
              +3
              Quote: Anti-Corr.
              I think you, dear, begin to "swim" in your own material

              And what is my "swimming"?
              Quote: Anti-Corr.
              .Well, it will be insulting to you when the 25th time we announce the defeat of all the defeats.

              Yes, yes ... I remember, Putin is all pros --- al, Putin is the enemy and so on ...
              1. Anti-Corr.
                Anti-Corr. April 20 2018 23: 17
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                And what is my "swimming"?

                Well Duc, just everything
                Quote: NEXUS
                No one drowns for him

                Quote: NEXUS
                Yes, yes ... I remember, Putin is all pros --- al, Putin is the enemy and so on ...

                Will we argue? Or did your opinion change again, then “for”, then “against” or you, a registered nightingale? belay I am glad that you have seriously grown from a technical point of view and it is a pity that there is no Ancient and SSI here now, but you still correct some points and do not wag your tail in the wind yes Rot your line! good For the airborne forces! drinks
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS April 20 2018 23: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: Anti-Corr.
                  Or did your opinion change again, then “for”, then “against” or you, a registered nightingale?

                  That is, the concept of SARKASM is probably not familiar to you ... well, next time I will put emoticons or give a clarification along the way ...
                  Quote: Anti-Corr.
                  Will we argue?

                  There is no desire ... you see, I worked a week and I just want to relax. Here I am now not for debate, but to communicate with my friends. Excuse me.
                  1. Anti-Corr.
                    Anti-Corr. April 21 2018 00: 29
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Here I am now not for debate, but to communicate with my friends. Excuse me.

                    So it's free-will drinks
          2. G A_2
            G A_2 April 20 2018 23: 55
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: G A_2
            My personal opinion is in vain we drown for Assad.

            No one drowns for him. The purpose of our stay in Syria from the very beginning was clearly voiced by the destruction of ISIS. Point.

            I do not agree. A mess with a needle in Syria since 2011. Where we were?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 18
              0
              Quote: G A_2
              Where we were?

              In the 11th we only gained strength and reanimated the army.
              1. G A_2
                G A_2 April 21 2018 00: 43
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: G A_2
                Where we were?

                In the 11th we only gained strength and reanimated the army.

                Our army was in order in 2011. It was just that at a certain moment the Americans needed to start putting sticks in the wheels of their bicycle. It is necessary to put amers to the wheels in the wheel means it is necessary to know better above. But Assad must be written off from the arena. It will be better for everyone.
          3. G A_2
            G A_2 April 21 2018 00: 10
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: G A_2
            My personal opinion is in vain we drown for Assad.

            No one drowns for him. The purpose of our stay in Syria from the very beginning was clearly voiced by the destruction of ISIS. Point.

            Fighting with igil is the right thing. But Assad must be written off. Find another leader for Syria. Because of Assad, there was not enough world war to start. It would be because of whom
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 21 2018 00: 31
              +3
              Quote: G A_2
              Fighting with igil is the right thing. But Assad must be written off. Find another leader for Syria. Because of Assad, there was not enough world war to start. It would be because of whom

              Do not write off ... it is necessary to end the war, and then the Syrians through LEGAL elections, and not coups (from which there is more chaos), they themselves will choose the one they need.
              1. G A_2
                G A_2 April 21 2018 00: 48
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: G A_2
                Fighting with igil is the right thing. But Assad must be written off. Find another leader for Syria. Because of Assad, there was not enough world war to start. It would be because of whom

                Do not write off ... it is necessary to end the war, and then the Syrians through LEGAL elections, and not coups (from which there is more chaos), they themselves will choose the one they need.

                Bullshit, these are legal elections in a country where there have never been legal elections. Dad gave his son power. That's all their choices
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              1. G A_2
                G A_2 April 21 2018 01: 44
                0
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                Quote: G A_2
                But Assad must be written off

                With horseradish for yourself? In the territory of 185,2 sq. Km, with a ragged population?
                Quote: G A_2
                Find another leader for Syria

                I propose to go there, this one understands foreign policy, but you need to keep him away from the domestic one, let him go there for about 5 years, he will get us all there, and then we will take him back with a fly .. or the city of Apatity.

                But seriously?
              2. NEXUS
                NEXUS April 21 2018 02: 01
                +1
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                With horseradish yourself? In the territory of 185,2 sq. Km,

                You haven’t answered, dear, from where and in what way the UN got this figure ...
        2. MadCat
          MadCat April 21 2018 05: 40
          0
          Quote: G A_2
          My personal opinion is in vain we drown for Assad. I haven’t saved my country. And as for the two products, this is still unconfirmed bullshit

          it’s more and more complicated, Assad is supported by Iran, it’s more of them a talking blank, so this suitcase without a handle is unlikely to be so easily changed for anything acceptable.
  30. NN52
    NN52 April 20 2018 22: 32
    +1
    Don,
    Well, you don’t have to judge everyone by yourself ...
    In essence, there is something to answer? Or will you again confuse letters in the surname, and refer to classmates?
  31. Govorun
    Govorun April 21 2018 00: 11
    0
    The Pentagon reassures itself in order to raise self-conceit and faith in its stealth technology ... Let this 22 tell about the invisibility of our S-300, which will soon appear there ...
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 21 2018 00: 56
      0
      Quote: Govorun
      The Pentagon reassures itself in order to raise self-conceit and faith in its stealth technology ... Let this 22 tell about the invisibility of our S-300, which will soon appear there ...

      The Pentagon has no conceit. What about the C300? Radars operating on other physical principles? No. Other radars need to be developed in principle. This is done. The shield and sword race is always there
      1. Govorun
        Govorun April 21 2018 18: 49
        0
        DO? You want to say that we have NO radars capable of seeing stealth ??? Well, everything is clear with you ...
  32. Anti-Corr.
    Anti-Corr. April 21 2018 02: 47
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    You never answered, dear, from where and in what way the UN got this figure.

    It would be interesting to hear your version, comrade Paganel wassat It’s possible that these are the butterflies of Atlantis, three elephants, turtles, the plane of the bulges, the volume of the areas, the area of ​​the volumes, 10 swings of the “dawn-saritsa” rocket, well, most importantly, this is the collider — all the greatest minds of the universe are accelerated there, which are dozapra hoses, it's banter, comrade Nexus
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 21 2018 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: Anti-Corr.
      it's banter, comrade Nexus

      The jump is counted. hi
  33. NG inform
    NG inform April 21 2018 03: 28
    0
    Up and down is one dimension.
  34. poquello
    poquello April 21 2018 04: 09
    +1
    mvg,
    Quote: mvg
    8086 and 286 are the very first processors .. practically.

    Wah, where did the 8088 first PC processors go? ))))
    Quote: mvg
    Chipsets, this is what all devices bundle together.

    Wah, but I thought that it was an IC on a transistor assembly)))), well, maybe there are "bridges" linking something together?
    Quote: mvg
    Office domestic MOST powerful processor, does not reach the budget INTEL Atoma,

    in terraflops pzhalsta, and about on which stone?
  35. Vard
    Vard April 21 2018 06: 23
    0
    The elusive Joe rushed across the prairie ...
  36. Oleg Kozlov
    Oleg Kozlov April 21 2018 08: 57
    +1
    It doesn’t matter how it really was. It is important how the world found out about it. And the world is proud of America and hates Russia.
    1. someoneV
      someoneV April 21 2018 09: 49
      +1
      It doesn’t matter how it really was. It is important how the world found out about it. And the world is proud of America and hates Russia.
      You read the history of your state i.e. Russia and who hated whom, write all sorts of rubbish here, the world is not proud of America, it is afraid of it.
  37. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx April 21 2018 09: 40
    0
    So chatting do not toss the bags. But if you so often "hang around" the pangolin in all cover operations, you will soon have to write off the planes due to the expiration of the assigned resource. Do flyers know?
  38. someoneV
    someoneV April 21 2018 09: 42
    +1
    Quote: mvg
    Andrew, in Korea and the USA and the USSR each gave their numbers, the truth in the middle. Although our conditions were more comfortable.
    Why should Jews fly in, why risk in vain under air defense? Meaning?
    Ours fly well, but there is no air defense, the Americans at 91 were more difficult. Against almost the strongest air defense in the BV.
    Regarding the drown, there was recently a video how the cable broke under Hokai and he went to the second round.
    About 12 cars, but no one thought that they had only stayed in Syria for 2 days and that the military did not like it right away and that the Indians did not like it? Not for nothing.
    What can I say about the F-35, of which there are already 200 pieces, and two of the three models have already reached combat readiness, flown more than 100000 hours with one accident, and we even have old accident engines.
    PS: No hatred. The only thing I believe in is in the Strategic Missile Forces. This is what holds back, not flying nuclear reactors, hyperpuper rockets and Daggers. And why again got involved in an arms race? Did you heal well?

    I like to read the opinion of "experts", he knows everything, understands everything, wipes his nose, why are you not smart working in the circles of power? But why the state needs new weapons, this is not for you to judge. About electronics, you probably know that we do not have the electronics industry, thanks to the "reformers", and why all your statements ?. Cry of the soul, I probably don’t like Russia, everything is bad here, have you heard such speeches in 90, and what became better ?.
    1. G A_2
      G A_2 April 21 2018 18: 01
      0
      Quote: someoneV
      Quote: mvg
      Andrew, in Korea and the USA and the USSR each gave their numbers, the truth in the middle. Although our conditions were more comfortable.
      Why should Jews fly in, why risk in vain under air defense? Meaning?
      Ours fly well, but there is no air defense, the Americans at 91 were more difficult. Against almost the strongest air defense in the BV.
      Regarding the drown, there was recently a video how the cable broke under Hokai and he went to the second round.
      About 12 cars, but no one thought that they had only stayed in Syria for 2 days and that the military did not like it right away and that the Indians did not like it? Not for nothing.
      What can I say about the F-35, of which there are already 200 pieces, and two of the three models have already reached combat readiness, flown more than 100000 hours with one accident, and we even have old accident engines.
      PS: No hatred. The only thing I believe in is in the Strategic Missile Forces. This is what holds back, not flying nuclear reactors, hyperpuper rockets and Daggers. And why again got involved in an arms race? Did you heal well?

      I like to read the opinion of "experts", he knows everything, understands everything, wipes his nose, why are you not smart working in the circles of power? But why the state needs new weapons, this is not for you to judge. About electronics, you probably know that we do not have the electronics industry, thanks to the "reformers", and why all your statements ?. Cry of the soul, I probably don’t like Russia, everything is bad here, have you heard such speeches in 90, and what became better ?.

      Electronics. They always lagged behind noticeably, both in the USSR and now. "Reformers" nothing to do with
  39. Dr. Hláva
    Dr. Hláva April 21 2018 12: 54
    +2
    What kind of penetration is this author? Why can such pollute the medial air ??
  40. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox April 21 2018 15: 26
    +2
    fairy tales are all. was flying fulfilling tasks. and why no one knew about it, duck because He is invisible. laughing
  41. irbis0373
    irbis0373 April 22 2018 02: 20
    0
    Well, maybe he was F-22 there, but so what? I may be mistaken, but this representative of the dinosaurs carries weapons only air-to-air!
    And then what should he do in Syria?
  42. BOPOH50
    BOPOH50 April 22 2018 19: 14
    0
    It's like a bike about the Elusive Joe, who by and large do not care for anyone.