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India intends to buy a license for the production of Ak-103

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The lengthy Indian epic with repeated contests for a new automatic rifle to replace the “national” 5,56-mm INSAS seems to be coming to an unexpected finale, writes bmpd with reference to Jane's Defense Weekly.


India intends to buy a license for the production of Ak-103
Venezuelan Marine Corps Soldiers with AK-103 machine guns during a rehearsal of a military parade in Caracas.

It is reported that the Ministry of Defense of India "now intends to purchase a license for the production of the Russian modernized AK-103 submachine gun under the Soviet cartridge 7,62 x 39 mm, out of competitive bidding procedures."

The production of the AK-103 should cover the requirements of the Indian army for the purchase of 768 496 automatic rifles. “Another 50 of thousands of rifles make up the needs of the Indian Air Force and Navy. Presumably, the Indian Ministry of Defense will resort to the direct import of 150 thousands of machines to cover the most urgent needs of the front-line parts of the first line, and will manufacture the rest under license, ”the newspaper writes.

According to the magazine, this month the delegation of the Ministry of Defense of India and the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), which will finalize an agreement on this type, will go to Izhevsk. weapons.

As sources told the magazine, the proposal to purchase AK-103 assault rifles, approved by the army, "was the result of detailed negotiations between senior Russian officials and Indian Defense Minister Nirmala Sitharaman during her trip to Moscow in early April." The deal is part of the “Make in India” government initiative.

As for the “national” automatic rifle INSAS (developed on the basis of a Kalashnikov assault rifle), which entered service with the Indian army in the middle of the 90, as early as the year of 2010 it was recognized as “operational inadequate”.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 20 2018 16: 17
    +5
    Let them buy ... anyway, soon they will start riveting without permission around the world ...
    1. Leeds
      Leeds April 20 2018 16: 21
      0
      So it’s about India, then read that the chicken in the nest, the testicle ... forgot the end of the saying.
    2. RASKAT
      RASKAT April 20 2018 16: 22
      +5
      I would even say that let our copies produce than copies of AP-15 and M-16.
    3. alex-cn
      alex-cn April 20 2018 16: 22
      +5
      So, it’s not possible to rivet Russian quality, although they say that they have become worse ... everyone strives to get ours.
      1. Borik
        Borik April 20 2018 16: 32
        +2
        Yes, here a few days ago they wrote that the Indians were going to produce some kind of rifle, I don’t remember exactly, and I don’t want to look for something. And now, they’ll announce to you that the Indian Ministry of Defense “now intends, practically without any competitive procedures, to acquire a license for the production of the Russian modernized AK-103 assault rifle under the Soviet cartridge 7,62 x 39 mm”.
        If this is true, then now for a couple of years they will settle the contract and bargain for themselves discounts.
        Or is it still a fake?
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 20 2018 18: 10
          +1
          Quote: Borik
          ... Yes, here a few days ago they wrote that the Indians were going to produce some kind of rifle, I don’t remember exactly, and I don’t want to look for something ...

          I will help you.
          There was a place to be a long-standing Indian dance on the nerves with the Israeli Israel Weapons Industries. The Israelis, together with the Indian company Punj Lloyd, built a joint arms factory in the city of Malanper, Madhya Pradesh. The stated goal is the production of the X95, Tavor and Galil rifles, as well as Negev machine guns.
          The sample was boiled with Indian CRFP (internal troops) Tavor TAR-21.
          It's not meant to be. Indian dances ended not according to plan laughing
          1. Borik
            Borik April 20 2018 19: 04
            +2
            Thanks for the info. I just meant it.
            Well now they will dance with us. Perhaps they have nothing to do with us.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply April 21 2018 10: 04
            +3
            They are not over yet. There are dozens of such statements regularly. With Indian dances you never know when they will start again.
    4. impostor
      impostor April 20 2018 17: 29
      +1
      Dear Nexus hi , Kalashnikov has been copied since the creation of the production model. But for some reason, the copies did not have such a demand than the original. The question is why?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 17: 34
        +1
        Quote: impostor
        Dear Nexus hi , Kalashnikov has been copied since the creation of the production model. But for some reason, the copies did not have such a demand than the original. The question is why?

        And we, excuse me, this should excite, in the light of the desire of the Indians to produce them at home and from their materials? M
      2. Pimply
        Pimply April 21 2018 10: 09
        0
        Here you are mistaken. Copies are different and had quite a demand for themselves.
        1) It is worth considering that the original AK was delivered virtually free of charge to most countries - this is the reason for the spread beyond reliability
        2) Copies of Romanian, Yugoslav, Chinese origin are easier to find than the original.
        3) If we talk about the options where the AK was taken as the basis for the original design, then you are also mistaken. Khalil, for example, is in service in 28 countries
        1. aws4
          aws4 April 21 2018 13: 23
          0
          1 is almost free? but can be more detailed? prices, to whom and when? 2 there is no such machine - Khalil rifles, however, like Galil is not an independent development, but a slightly redesigned Finnish Valmet, which in turn was already made on the basis of AK .. and the fact that it is in service with 28 countries is the merit of the Jews to be able to advertise and sell .. for Help weapons are not high-tech, the cutter box, the sight on the lid is not fixed, the reliability is worse in the 5.56 cartridge than on the Soviet calibers .. could not stand any competition with the M16 and was spat out in disgrace from the Israel Defense Forces .. and then successfully sucked mugs .. I shot a lot with what, but alas, it didn’t happen to her .. however, a friend tried and responded like that - a miserable and miserable semblance of ak74 .. although as far as I remember ak74 appeared
        2. aws4
          aws4 April 21 2018 13: 36
          0
          I apologize apparently I didn’t understand something with the receiver .. obviously now this is a stamp ..
    5. impostor
      impostor April 20 2018 17: 38
      +3
      By the way, at the top there is a very glorious idea of ​​vetoing the copyrights of mattress manufacturers. One of the strongest response offers, don't you find?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 17: 43
        +3
        Quote: impostor
        By the way, at the top there is a very glorious idea of ​​vetoing the copyrights of mattress manufacturers. One of the strongest response offers, don't you find?

        Well, they can, but we can not? And then that field is not plowed by our xerox ... I think it's time to adopt the Chinese experience.
        1. impostor
          impostor April 20 2018 17: 46
          +1
          Dear Nexus, given that the JASSM pair is at our disposal, the mattresses may turn pale if they are attacked with, say, Israel
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 20 2018 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: impostor
            given that the JASSM pair is at our disposal

            Is it JASSM? Or the latest axes?
            1. impostor
              impostor April 20 2018 17: 53
              +1
              Hopefully JASSM-ER (AGM-158B), for the Yankees have already rushed to convince Congress that they shot AGM-158
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS April 20 2018 17: 55
                +1
                Quote: impostor
                Hopefully JASSM-ER (AGM-158B)

                I’m not only talking about military patents ... therefore, I said that here the field is not plowed for us. As for JASSM ... well, let's see what is there. It is important to draw the right conclusions from the study.
          2. Doliva63
            Doliva63 April 20 2018 19: 27
            +8
            Quote: impostor
            Dear Nexus, given that the JASSM pair is at our disposal, the mattresses may turn pale if they are attacked with, say, Israel

            It will be a funny picture: during the next Yankee hitting Syria, quietly let a couple of axes go to their friends at the airfield from where they fly to bomb Syria laughing drinks
    6. san4es
      san4es April 20 2018 20: 18
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      ..... all over the world...

      to replace the “national” 5,56 mm INSAS seems to be coming to an unexpected ending

      hi .... For 0.16 min .... laughing
  2. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ April 20 2018 16: 20
    +3
    operationally inadequate
    it's like?
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder April 20 2018 17: 22
      +1
      _Ugene_ (_Ugene_)
      operationally inadequate
      it's like?

      All here
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHFiCSxX4ec
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  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 20 2018 16: 22
    +3
    in the mid-90s, back in 2010, it was recognized as “operational inadequate”.

    moss ha, that is, the rifles that the “Make in India” turned out to be “operatively inadequate.” Whatever it means ....
    I understand that they are not very friendly with China and Pakistan, but stop giving them matches. They turn them into "operational inadequate" laughing One of our submarines was stupidly drowned at the pier, the Americans were allowed to test everything on the other .....
    Elephants of war can be sold to them, here with them the Indians will set up control ..... laughing
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR April 20 2018 21: 01
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Elephants can be sold to them

      Where, in Russia is the production of these mastodons?
  5. Bad_santa
    Bad_santa April 20 2018 16: 27
    +2
    For the sake of bargaining, as well as a contract that is beneficial to us. The main thing is to correctly compose everything in the contract and go rivet. It is especially necessary to prescribe in the contract that Indian rifles do not go to any other countries. For own armed forces only
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 April 20 2018 16: 47
      0
      Quote: Bad_Santa
      It is especially necessary to prescribe in the contract that Indian rifles do not go to any other countries. For own armed forces only

      As far as I remember, Venezuela also bought the first batch from Us, and produced the rest under a license (by the way, from the remnants of Venezuelan submachine guns, they were "emasculated for the civilian market of Russia. Unfortunately, I only have MMG-AK103 sad ) I didn’t hear that Venezuela was selling 103 AK to the left.
  6. Turgon
    Turgon April 20 2018 16: 30
    0
    Who wants a lot in the end remains with nothing. Who does not believe can ask the Goldfish, she knows a lot of such stories.
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 20 2018 16: 49
    +1
    In my opinion, this command is not sensible there, because they grab onto everything, want everything, and preferably cheaper and faster. And this does not happen!
  8. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 20 2018 17: 17
    +1
    Venezuelan Marines with AK-103 assault rifles during a rehearsal of a military parade in Caracas.


    Cool hybrid of the Russian AK-103 and the American grenade launcher M203!))
  9. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky April 20 2018 17: 29
    +3
    It turns out that the mantra to the accompaniment of AK-103 is somewhat more convincing than without it. wink
  10. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 20 2018 17: 30
    0
    Indian Army requirements for the acquisition of 768 automatic rifles.

    They would have indicated tenths .... Who is involved in planning and procurement there ?!
  11. impostor
    impostor April 20 2018 17: 32
    0
    A solid contract. But I, on the site of the Indians, would take a closer look at the carpet products, so do not seek preferences No.
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by April 23 2018 10: 50
      0
      Kovrovsky is more profitable for us - they will break it faster, buy more. Yes, and more expensive.
      But there is a flip side - reputation. Do we need it?
  12. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 20 2018 17: 41
    +1
    The Indian "yes" as a rule means: "Maybe someday most likely, if of course everything will be the way, although, of course, ...". We worked with them for several years. The whole brain was eaten by us ... sad
  13. APASUS
    APASUS April 20 2018 17: 41
    +1
    Until there is an official contract, Jane's Defense Weekly magazine can fantasize on any topic freely. It is very difficult to conclude contracts with India. Moreover, given that there was already such information and only talk was about building a small arms factory by a company from Israel and an almost ready contract for the sun . So far by!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply April 21 2018 10: 10
      0
      ABOUT! This is the truth of a rational person. India sings and dances. There is not even a deal in the contract. Until the first deliveries begin, it will be more accurate. 8)
  14. NEOZ
    NEOZ April 20 2018 19: 05
    +2
    gentlemen!
    pictured AK103 with a M203 grenade launcher !!!!!! the first time I see this !!!!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 21 2018 10: 17
      0
      Quote: NEOZ
      pictured AK103 with a M203 grenade launcher !!!!!! the first time I see this !!!!

      Mounting unit for M-103 (Rail Interface System) for various types of small arms manufactured by Knight's Armament Co.
  15. Tank hard
    Tank hard April 20 2018 20: 06
    +1
    Interestingly, why didn’t the 5,56 caliber please them, why did they need 7,63X39? I’ve got many Kalash praises under 5,56, accuracy, range, sound, flatness, recoil compared to 7,62, they say, it’s better ...
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 20 2018 20: 20
      +2
      "7,62x39"))
    2. Alf
      Alf April 20 2018 21: 34
      +1
      Quote: Tank Hard
      sound,

      And what sound didn’t please?
      Quote: Tank Hard
      range,

      And where does the range, if really from rifles beyond 150-200 meters do not shoot?
      Quote: Tank Hard
      accuracy

      Accuracy mainly depends on the curvature and strabismus of the shooter.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 21 2018 01: 35
        +1
        This is such a detailed answer of the small arms guru to my amateurish question, why did the Indians not like the 5,56x45 caliber, and they decided to switch to 7,62x39? I am crushed by your intellect!
  16. Sasha75
    Sasha75 April 21 2018 06: 22
    0
    Quickly they needed from the Bulgarians, they took AKM from despair, because they needed to. Now we ourselves can bargain the license will be for millions of pieces.