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Every whim for your money. The USA can offer Japan a hybrid of F-22 and F-35

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The American company Lockheed Martin plans to offer Japan a hybrid fighter based on the outlawed F-22 and advanced F-35 for export, reports Reuters referring to sources familiar with the situation.


Every whim for your money. The USA can offer Japan a hybrid of F-22 and F-35


Representatives of Lockheed Martin have already discussed the possibility of delivery with the employees of the Ministry of Defense of Japan and will make Tokyo an official offer after receiving permission from the US government of the United States, the newspaper writes.

The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."

Japan’s desire to build its own invisible fighter was partly due to Washington’s refusal to sell Tokyo a twin-engine F-10 22 years ago. Thus, Japan, which is already acquiring an F-35 fighter from the United States to modernize its air fleetcan now acquire a separate fighter for air superiority over Russian and Chinese aircraft for the next decade.

Recall, at the end of December, it was reported that the Japanese Defense Ministry was studying the possibility of purchasing American F-35B aircraft to equip its helicopter carriers, as well as additional purchase of fifth-generation F-35A fighter jets, Vzglyad reports.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 20 2018 11: 45
    +3
    Japanese mom called .. Trump explained everything to the Japanese! They will buy everything!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 20 2018 11: 46
      +9
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Japanese mom called .. Trump explained everything to the Japanese! They will buy everything!

      These can. True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely April 20 2018 11: 52
        +15
        USA is the only and consistent advocate of freedom-loving Japan
        1. hrych
          hrych April 20 2018 14: 09
          +5
          Quote: Serge Gorely
          defender of freedom-loving Japan

          Nagasaki still phonite wassat And so why not cross two freaks (although f-22 looks nothing) laughing
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 20 2018 11: 54
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        These can. True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.

        will combine F-22 and F-35 and can exceed both of them
        I thought the child would be beautiful as a mom and smart as a dad, but it turned out the other way around ...
        1. NN52
          NN52 April 20 2018 12: 40
          +4
          Like April 1st?
          Or did the Americans decide to breed the Japanese for money?
          Or we are here on the forum decided to have fun on Friday of this article ....
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 20 2018 12: 45
            +1
            Quote: NN52
            Like April 1st?
            Or did the Americans decide to breed the Japanese for money?
            Or we are here on the forum decided to have fun on Friday of this article ....

            Well, the Japanese are easier to breed than anyone, and there is no need to breed there, the Americans said any stupidity and they should smile and bow obsequiously ... What they demand from the Kuril Islands, they dream of escaping from Amers there at night ... smile
      3. Chertt
        Chertt April 20 2018 11: 55
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.

        Conclusion from the news, the fifth generation of the Japanese failed. A hybrid with a hedgehog, it’s just a bypass of the ban on the sale of F-22. Conventional wipers from f-35 will be put on the Raptor
        1. Lock36
          Lock36 April 20 2018 12: 01
          +3
          How??!!! F22 is no longer manufactured.
          IMHO another fantastic drank.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno April 20 2018 12: 08
            0
            No, but the production is “mothballed” for the future, work in the Tihar is still going on, the base is maintained, lobbyists are working.
            1. Lock36
              Lock36 April 20 2018 13: 36
              +3
              Quote: Shahno
              No, but the production is “mothballed" for the future, work in Tihari is still going on

              Oh, something I don’t believe in that. Who will contain "canned production"? Well this is not in vain. And what about the allies? All production is also "canned" and waiting?
          2. Chertt
            Chertt April 20 2018 12: 09
            +1
            Quote: Lock36
            How??!!! F22 is no longer manufactured.
            IMHO another fantastic drank.

            The title says "Any whim for your money."
            In general, in connection with the "not entirely successful" F-35 project, the idea of ​​restoring the production of the modernized F-22 is not very delusional (and we saw more delusional)
            1. Lock36
              Lock36 April 20 2018 13: 38
              +1
              Quote: Chertt
              In general, in connection with the "not entirely successful" F-35 project, the idea of ​​restoring the production of the modernized F-22 is not very delusional (and we saw more delusional)

              They wanted the F-35 to be cheaper, it didn’t work out. Well, it’s logical to return to the production of F-22 ... I’m directly interested: how much will the F-22 be now? And most importantly when?
              Hindus still have no time to edit the code on the F-35 ...
              Well, maybe I'm just slandering ...
        2. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 02: 57
          0
          the question is, which engine will they leave in the export Lizard - right or left?
          and will control only up or only down?
          and how much will it all cost even without janitors from a penguin?
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 20 2018 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        These can. True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.

        First, let them finish the lizard and Lightning, in order to save both from childhood ailments ...
        The aircraft offered by Japan “will combine the F-22 and F-35 and can surpass both of them”

        I wonder what production lines?
        1. Lock36
          Lock36 April 20 2018 13: 39
          +1
          In Irkutsk, an order will be placed at subcontractors.
          Again, saving on logistics is not enough.
      5. XXXIII
        XXXIII April 20 2018 12: 33
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        These can. True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.

        Something like this, surpasses both f22 and f35 in its own way, money is not the main thing here, the main idea .... wassat
      6. san4es
        san4es April 20 2018 13: 54
        +6
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        ... it's very hard to imagine.

        ... "Chinese" will turn out bully
        Shenyang J-31 is a fifth generation Chinese multirole fighter.

      7. Slovak
        Slovak April 20 2018 15: 33
        +1
        Get Po-2 (aka U-2)
      8. Alex777
        Alex777 April 20 2018 17: 35
        0
        the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.

        Well, why? Glider F-22, electronics F-35 and forth. Electronics F-35 is much ahead. And he did his 5th generation airplane. With the software that the Yankees do not work, they will figure it out. I would even say that they did not bend Yap, but rather. Trump told them - buy a white elephant. And they will answer him - we’ll buy it. But the elephant should look so-and-so. hi
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 20 2018 12: 21
      +1
      The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."
      Yeah, like Japan, so you can sell strike aircraft, and other countries can not sell air defense systems ?! Here are the jackals children !!!
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 20 2018 11: 45
    +4
    The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."

    Hollywood in action ... laughing
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller April 20 2018 11: 46
      +3
      All the best for children !!!
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 20 2018 11: 59
        +1
        Greg Miller (Swimmer) Today, 11: 46 ↑
        All the best - children!!!

        Ipen, children ... laughing
  3. AL176STM30
    AL176STM30 April 20 2018 11: 46
    +4
    The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."
    And the impossible is possible?
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 20 2018 11: 50
      +2
      Quote: AL176STM30
      And the impossible is possible?

      For the USA it is possible, not available to other countries
    2. sabakina
      sabakina April 21 2018 13: 15
      0
      Quote: AL176STM30
      And the impossible is possible?

  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 20 2018 11: 49
    +3
    A sort of "designer" by type of car from Primorye? Then I do not envy the Japanese pilots. There would be a demand, but there would always be a seller.
  5. evil partisan
    evil partisan April 20 2018 11: 50
    +2
    Raptopenguin or Penguin raptor? I don’t know: how to ... what
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 20 2018 12: 02
      +1
      evil partisans (Half-Act) Today, 11: 50 New
      Raptopenguin or Penguin raptor? I don’t know: how to ... what

      Ipens will then cry out over their islands, what to call an "unknown animal" ... laughing
  6. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu April 20 2018 11: 52
    +3
    The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."
    Will it cost the same as two planes? wink
    What do not promise to sell your product good
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 20 2018 12: 05
      +1
      rpuropuu (Greogory) Today, 11: 52 New
      The aircraft offered to Japan "will combine the F-22 and the F-35 and can surpass both of them."
      Will it cost the same as two planes? wink
      What do you promise to sell your good?

      I suppose mericatos will not deny themselves the pleasure of appointing an akhova! price ... laughing
  7. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher April 20 2018 11: 54
    0
    It is certainly entertaining, the Japanese have always preferred their way, but I'm afraid it will be a little expensive even for them. There is no doubt about the possibility of creating a twin-engine analog F35, the same materials and equipment with engines, but damn it fucking?
  8. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 20 2018 11: 58
    +3
    when we begin to conduct exercises in their Kuril Islands, the Japanese begin to scream from indignation, and here they are going to rob them in broad daylight, and they are silent, that’s what the life-giving occupation does ...
  9. prior
    prior April 20 2018 12: 07
    +1
    Japs! And why do you need air superiority over Russian and Chinese aircraft?
    Do you remember Hiroshima? Both Russia and China have nuclear weapons in sufficient quantities.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 20 2018 12: 19
      0
      prior (Vlad) Today, 12: 07
      Japs! And why do you need air superiority over Russian and Chinese aircraft?
      Do you remember Hiroshima? Both Russia and China have nuclear weapons in sufficient quantities.

      Something with their memory became, all that was and will not be remembered ... But in vain! angry
  10. pavelty
    pavelty April 20 2018 13: 01
    +1
    Crossed a snake and a hedgehog ..
  11. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 20 2018 13: 12
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Japanese mom called .. Trump explained everything to the Japanese! They will buy everything!

    These can. True, the symbiote mentioned in the article is so strange that it is very difficult to imagine it.


    The mattress is completely leaky and drips! The roof slowly swam ...
  12. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 20 2018 13: 15
    0
    Quote: pavlentiy
    Crossed a snake and a hedgehog ..


    It turned out 1,5 m. Of barbed wire. Everything will work out in the household, the yellow-faced ones screamed with delight!
  13. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 20 2018 14: 05
    +1
    The campaign will be a new aircraft, I hope the su-57, by that time at least they’ll let me into the series.
  14. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 20 2018 14: 13
    0
    “It will combine F-22 and F-35 and can surpass both of them”

    Oh, Hiley Likely again!
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 20 2018 15: 30
    +1
    Like this? Insert F-22 avionics into the F-35 glider? It would be great, but not technically feasible.
    F-22 upgrade with great difficulty. Electronics of the 80s.
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall April 20 2018 15: 37
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      F-22 upgrade with great difficulty. Electronics of the 80s.



      So f-15-16-18, mig-29, su-27-30 upgrade even worse?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 20 2018 16: 01
        +1
        It’s also difficult. In with F-22 - special difficulties. He thought for strategic seepage through air defense. He passed unnoticed - and smashes everyone in air battles behind enemy lines. In radio silence and without the slightest integration with other types of aircraft.
        But it turned out that this is too theoretical a scenario. In practice, interaction with your own is required. And gradually, in his closed architecture software, they began to add blocks for integration with modern network chips.

        "f-15-16" ///

        When at first the F-16s arrived in Israel, it was completely “gutting” them — to rake out all the electronic stuffing and set up their own. Starting with the radar. Can you imagine what kind of work? And what kind of money?
        Then we agreed with General Dynamics and part of the replacements were done at the factory in America.
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall April 20 2018 17: 42
          +1
          I know that it’s not easy. But you yourself say that it’s possible. Moreover, at the factory.


          I doubt that the f-22 is now flying on conventional "lamps" from the 80s. And I don’t think the architecture is so closed.


          It was integrated into the anti-aircraft defense system. It means that at least it interacted with AWACS and ground guidance radars. I recently conducted exercises with the F-35. Also, it is integration-centric. It covers attack aircraft and bombers in Syria. Without integration, this is impossible
  16. andrson
    andrson April 20 2018 18: 49
    0
    In America, only nuclear bombs work. And so .. They make weapons only for sale, which often fails, and does not itself disable other people's equipment.
  17. nikoliski
    nikoliski April 21 2018 03: 00
    -1
    The Japanese are meticulous - they will copy and improve, so the new country will receive the 5th generation in the Air Force in series, and given the industrial power of Japan, they will do it faster and better than we are doing with the SU-57 (either engine surges, missiles are not ready, then Indians refuse electronics do together, saying that it’s better to buy f35)
  18. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine April 21 2018 12: 53
    0
    Why am I confused ...
    Well, I just can’t imagine a pepelats with 1.5 engines ...