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Experts of Russia and NATO for the first time will share military secrets

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Experts of Russia and NATO for the first time will share military secretsTomorrow an international conference on the future European missile defense system will open in Moscow. Our military experts promise for the first time to disclose information that was kept from NATO members in strict confidence.

The Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Anatoly Antonov told this big rocket umbrella advice correspondent for Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Anatoly Ivanovich, the technical parameters of the missile defense system is a very delicate subject. Are you sure that Russian and foreign experts will agree to discuss it in open mode?

Anatoly Antonov: I think that the discussions will be open to a certain framework. We and the Americans are not so naive as to share all our secrets.

But it is clear, in figures and facts, to show the danger of the variant of the European anti-missile system proposed by the United States, of course, necessary and, most importantly, possible.

The highlight of the conference, in my opinion, will be the presentation of computer simulation results demonstrating how NATO's missile defense tools, including their new facilities in Poland, Romania, Turkey and other places, can affect the nuclear deterrent forces of Russia.

3,7 is thousands of kilometers away - the radar at Sofrino has such a missile detection range
We have never and to anyone such visual information did not give out.


Will Americans show something like that?

Anatoly Antonov: No. And never offered this.

Do you hope that the discussion in Moscow will put an end to the dispute about the technical capabilities of missiles and the methods of dealing with them?

Anatoly Antonov: Talk about missile defense is over 60 years. That this system does not affect the nuclear deterrent, former US Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara said for the first time. Notice how the position of the Americans has changed since then.

At the conference, we would like to explain in a language understandable to military and technical experts what the implications for strategic stability will be on the implementation of the US and NATO plans for anti-ballistic missile defense. But at the same time, Russia has never opposed the missile defense system itself. We assume that, under certain circumstances, it can carry a positive start. However, in this issue a lot of additional "but" ...

Just in Germany, we conducted a Russian-NATO command-staff computer exercise on theater missile defense. Experts from Russia and NATO have made an unequivocal conclusion about the increase in the effectiveness of anti-missile actions as the integration of information exchange and control systems deepens. This practice should be increased, diversified, but most importantly, figuratively speaking, it should have added value.

Who suggested discussing European missile defense issues in this format?

Anatoly Antonov: The idea belongs to the Minister of Defense Serdyukov. Our consultations with Western partners in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the military department are mostly closed. NATO, unfortunately, does not hear Russia's concerns, and we ask ourselves: what is the reason? Poor explain our position? Not enough military-technical arguments? In search of an answer, we came to an understanding - it is necessary to gather military and technical experts dealing with European missile defense issues, making decisions in this area, and once again try to present to them arguments against the implementation of NATO plans. And at the same time to listen to the point of view of foreign colleagues, in the course of the discussion to try to develop an algorithm for solving the problem.

Organizing such a conference for the traditionally closed ministry, such as the Ministry of Defense, is in general an unprecedented step.

By what principle were the conference participants selected? Who agreed to the dialogue and who refused it?

Anatoly Antonov: The invitation was sent to all NATO countries and European states that are not part of the North Atlantic bloc. Considering that the US plans for missile defense in Europe are global in nature, we also invited representatives of Asia - first of all, our strategic partners from China and India, as well as colleagues from Japan and South Korea. More than 50 countries agreed, they are sending over 200 people to Moscow. More than a dozen high-ranking experts will arrive from the United States alone. Till now applications arrive, but we for the objective reasons cannot already accept someone any more. The conference accredited more than a hundred journalists. Frankly speaking, they did not even expect that the conference would arouse so much interest in the world.

Refused to come from Albania, Croatia and Ireland. The Albanians said they are not interested in the missile defense issue. The Irish have difficulty obtaining the consent of the parliament to conduct such discussions. Croats cite electoral issues.

And what is the level of representation?

Anatoly Antonov: We invited mainly the military - at the level of deputy defense ministers or heads of general staffs. Plus a small number of American diplomats who are negotiating with us on missile defense. More representatives of non-governmental organizations from academic institutions will arrive. The NATO delegation will be led by Alliance Deputy Secretary General Alexander Vershbow.

I know that the decision to send their experts to Moscow in the NATO countries did not come easy. Some Eastern European states rather discreetly accepted the invitation, decided to limit their participation in the conference of military attaches. But eurogrands immediately said "yes", because they always supported the search for a compromise with Russia.

What we did not please youngonatovtsam?

Anatoly Antonov: There are certain political, economic and military aspects behind the deployment of missile defense facilities on their territory. After all, the construction of bases is new jobs, investments, rent for land. In addition, some Eastern European countries feel like second-rate members of the alliance. They believe that participation in the creation of continental missile defense will raise their weight in the unit. There are politicians in some countries with anti-Russian sentiments who say that the presence of a NATO infrastructure guarantees protection against the "threat of Moscow" to the population. All these problems need to look in the complex.

Did you have a thought to call the Iranians and North Koreans to the conference?

Anatoly Antonov: We do not need political controversy. The objective of the conference is to compare the views of NATO and Russia on European missile defense, to express our assessment of the configuration of the continental missile defense system proposed by the United States and its partners.

The keynote address at the conference will be made by Chief of the General Staff Nikolay Makarov. Will it be open?

Anatoly Antonov: Yes. Moreover, as far as I know, one of the Russian TV channels plans to broadcast it on 3 on May. And all the conference materials the Ministry of Defense will then publish a separate brochure.

I want to explain why we organized the conference now. The fact is that in the second half of May, a NATO summit will be held in Chicago, where it is planned to announce the achievement of the "initial operational readiness" of the European missile defense system. In addition, it is possible to make new decisions on the further integration of anti-missile weapons of the countries participating in the alliance. We hope that the results of the conference will make our colleagues think about the consequences of such decisions.

We view the conference as an important stage in the dialogue between Russia and NATO. Negotiations on the antimissile problem continue, and expert assessments can help diplomats and the military to find the "outcomes" that are necessary for the contracting parties.

Is there a point of no return in these negotiations?

Anatoly Antonov: Certainly. When the Americans begin the third phase of their anti-missile plans in Europe and the effectiveness of using our strategic nuclear forces is at risk, serious questions will arise regarding an adequate response from Russia. According to estimates of the General Staff, this can happen already in 2017 year. But it is also impossible to ignore the first and second stages of the adaptive approach of the USA. After all, it was at this time that the foundation was laid for the modernization of the American missile defense system. Moreover, no one says that there will be no fifth, sixth, seventh stages.

Such a development is likely, and we are preparing for it accordingly. The president of Russia spoke repeatedly and in sufficient detail about possible retaliatory steps.

On the final day of the conference, 4 May, a trip to one of the military facilities in the Moscow region is scheduled. What will show guests?

Anatoly Antonov: Let us show the radar station of the missile attack warning system in Sofrino. We want the partners to see how the radar monitors missile launches, and to make sure that Russia and NATO have a wide field for cooperation on missile defense. Moreover, such cooperation will only increase the readiness of national systems to repel rocket attacks from various directions.

The station management and representatives of the Aerospace Defense Forces will make two demonstration presentations. I hope they will convince guests of the benefits of such an interaction.

Presentation with a hint - is it better to be friends with us?

Anatoly Antonov: We are not going to frighten anyone. But it is necessary to dispel the doubts of those politicians and specialists in the West who think that Russia does not have anything in its arms other than "rusty iron". Let them look and draw conclusions.
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  1. Dust
    Dust 2 May 2012 11: 35
    +6
    Military secrets are not shared! It is customary to mine and reveal strangers, and protect your own from a potential enemy!
    1. Dust
      Dust 2 May 2012 11: 48
      -1
      That's right, everything needs to be revealed to the enemy - Gorbi's laurels do not give anyone peace?
      1. alex-defensor
        alex-defensor 2 May 2012 12: 56
        +2
        For those who have not lost their sense of humor:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QKEIUYti0

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7mvIrPMctY

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vblBYSY4gCc

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WizgSa1byUw

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoLx4Uob7A&feature=relmfu

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrTTLSKofFo&feature=relmfu

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdA2tqfBQUI&feature=relmfu

        And this is already "no joke":
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiVs1svEHDg

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKTvPYAtRk&feature=related
        1. alex-defensor
          alex-defensor 2 May 2012 13: 12
          +1
          Here's another (laugh):
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGqPq4CUY6g&feature=relmfu

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctlu34dqIdA

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67uVtnddQ-A

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uagWar6bmo

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgyF4sIt6Jk&feature=relmfu

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUDpYvXqoYU&feature=relmfu

          ESPECIALLY INTERESTING:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKa1Zpr4Es
          1. alex-defensor
            alex-defensor 2 May 2012 13: 32
            +1
            Last thing:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4U8Gt-p_3o

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm5ueK7Jpdc&feature=related
  2. Gocha kurashvili
    Gocha kurashvili 2 May 2012 11: 45
    +6
    3,7 is thousands of kilometers away - the radar at Sofrino has such a missile detection range
    We have never and to anyone such visual information did not give out.

    What is this to say to amers ???? Let grandmas spend on their missile defense, let shove billions! What is the reason for us ???? Where does such generosity come from? Let amers spend money and ss ut from us with boiling water ...
    Here is a flea Soviet rassarkivanie in front of the aliens ..... Nah us such glastnost?
    1. танк
      танк 2 May 2012 13: 29
      -1
      EPT caved in, surrender us am
    2. iulai
      iulai 2 May 2012 17: 05
      -2
      as they began to cave in before the foreigners at Peter the Great, so still we cannot straighten. let them spend their money, why such a touching concern for their budget? there is no Russian officer corps, only diplomats and philosophers.
  3. Nick
    Nick 2 May 2012 11: 49
    +6
    Discussions are good, they allow you to learn more about our potential partners, and at least give hope that we will agree ... it is better to conduct difficult discussions than military operations.
    1. YARY
      YARY 2 May 2012 12: 30
      +3
      Discussions with the opponent are carried out in a trench sedentary, using the 7,62 argument! And on which side to approach the tank, or how they sew buttons, it’s rich to share it! "Oilman" is good - when it's dead! And that’s it! angry am
    2. Olegovich
      Olegovich 2 May 2012 12: 43
      +2
      Quote: Nick
      Discussions are good, they allow you to learn more about our potential partners, and at least give hope that we will agree ... it is better to conduct difficult discussions than military operations.

      Support!
      Going to a confrontation (like North Korea) is as easy as shelling pears, it can always be done. But now it is more important for us to try to convince, (at least partially), "Eurogrands", diplomatically. Moreover, we will have time to build up our defense potential, develop new things, and attract new allies to our side. And no one from our command will give them real military secrets, but "frightening" them with the capabilities of our early warning system is real.
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 2 May 2012 20: 46
        +1
        Quote: Olegych
        But now it is more important for us to try to convince, (at least partially), "Eurogrands", diplomatically.

        Yes, while we are persuading, they have the first stage of implementation, then the second, and finally the third, and this over the next five years. Once again I repeat, America and NATO take us quietly, we convince, prove, appeal to the world community, and us just before the fact. Do not hell with them. We have a computer model with their own version, and they have their own, and so on to stupor. For each of our proposals, they have their own arguments, obviously with a counterbalance in one direction.
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 2 May 2012 16: 41
      -1
      Quote: Nick
      give at least hope that we will agree ..

      Stalin and Hitler also agreed that everything turned out in the know, retreated to Moscow itself.
    4. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 2 May 2012 20: 32
      0
      Quote: Nick
      Discussions are good, they allow you to learn more about our potential partners, and at least give hope that we will agree ... it is better to conduct difficult discussions than military operations.

      This is certainly good, but why should they reveal secrets, if not completely, but nevertheless. Amerikosy have time to powder our brains with this missile defense? Recall the background around this.
  4. patriot2
    patriot2 2 May 2012 11: 51
    +1
    Quote: Dust
    The keynote address at the conference will be made by Chief of the General Staff Nikolay Makarov. Will it be open?

    Anatoly Antonov: Yes. Moreover, as far as I know, one of the Russian TV channels plans to broadcast it on 3 on May. And all the conference materials the Ministry of Defense will then publish a separate brochure.


    Read more: http://topwar.ru/14017-eksperty-rossii-i-nato-vpervye-podelyatsya-voennymi-sekre
    tami.html
    I want to explain why we organized the conference now. The fact is that in the second half of May, a NATO summit will be held in Chicago, where it is planned to announce the achievement of the "initial operational readiness" of the European missile defense system. In addition, it is possible to make new decisions on the further integration of anti-missile weapons of the countries participating in the alliance. We hope that the results of the conference will make our colleagues think about the consequences of such decisions.

    Read the article carefully.
    Article +
    1. Armata
      Armata 2 May 2012 12: 04
      +4
      Russians, as always, in their repertoire. They show us a sword and threaten to pierce, and in response we think of a club the size of their head like you think if you redefine laughing . Yes, and most likely far from everything will be told to them, so that their fantasies revel in and begin to invent horror stories about Russians.
    2. Dust
      Dust 2 May 2012 12: 12
      +3
      One can’t expect anything good from Makarov - only another damage to the country's defense capability!
      The absolutely correct decision is to publish military secrets as a separate publication! So that the spies do not bother themselves much, and the extra penny will break off ...
      1. Eugene
        Eugene 2 May 2012 12: 41
        +4
        Dust, secrets are different, in the 80s I did not know anything about the characteristics of the MiG-31, MiG-29, but Western books about their F-15s, Tornadoes, they brought me a lot of colorful ones from across the hill, and I learned information from them about our planes, at least some, often very underestimated. And now everything is normal. In the 80s I did not know about the Perimeter system, but now it makes me proud of our people. I have not heard of a missile defense station near Solnechnogorsk, which shoots down enemy ballistic missiles with nuclear anti-aircraft missiles. Knowing about the power of your country without revealing technical subtleties is good.
  5. Tersky
    Tersky 2 May 2012 12: 38
    +5
    Yes, there’s nothing special there, no one will let anyone go, so they scare each other with horror stories and sandboxes. There was enough openness in 90x, I think the mind has been accumulated over two decades.
  6. zevs379
    zevs379 2 May 2012 12: 48
    0
    Well dance thought of - tries to show them our capabilities? Let them go on their own.
    Makarov with Taburetkin before the demobilization bent before the State Department decided. Jude.
    1. iulai
      iulai 2 May 2012 17: 11
      0
      there was also such a scout, bakatin, who leaked all the secrets. why is he still not punished? Imagine if the American head of intelligence would reveal such secrets? a mess in the country, criminals feel at ease, and Gorbachev should be the first to sit on the dock
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 2 May 2012 12: 52
    +6
    And then amers do not conduct simulations. Rockets need to be set, not sharpened laces with them
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 2 May 2012 14: 06
      +3
      It is necessary to show in the face of the world community what is happening really.
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 2 May 2012 20: 57
        +1
        Quote: Eugene
        It is necessary to show in the face of the world community what is happening really.

        They wanted to spit on the public. Yes, and who will show? Our media? It’s good if the evening news tells the others. And they are already being trumpeted, analyzed and successfully processed by the INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC.
  8. Igor77
    Igor77 2 May 2012 14: 13
    +4
    How much anger you have in your comments. And everyone knows what to do. In order to break the Mongol-Tatar yoke for more than one year, the tribute was paid and agreed, and funds were saved for the answer. We just need time and we will get it. We will not stand the "obvious" race, but completely secret. It makes sense to play with muscles to keep in the dark. And you and I do not need to put rockets, but to put the children on their feet.
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 2 May 2012 21: 16
      -1
      Quote: Igor77
      And you and I should not put rockets, but put children on their feet.

      This must be done in parallel. At the expense of anger, you’re wrong, you’re already tired of watching us play and lead by the nose, and the actions of our leadership are not always understood, hence the sharpness in the statements.
    2. Odinplys
      Odinplys 2 May 2012 23: 10
      +1
      Quote: Igor77
      How much anger you have in your comments. And everyone knows what to do. In order to break the Mongol-Tatar yoke for more than one year, the tribute was paid and agreed, and funds were saved for the answer. We just need time and we will get it. We will not stand the "obvious" race, but completely secret. It makes sense to play with muscles to keep in the dark. And you and I do not need to put rockets, but to put the children on their feet.


      But many do not understand this ... there isn’t enough exposure ... And ... they left Moscow to Napoleon ... to win ...
  9. von_Richten
    von_Richten 2 May 2012 14: 16
    +4
    Say - don’t say, the West will smile and assent, but do it your own way.
  10. Karabin
    Karabin 2 May 2012 17: 23
    +2
    Since the time of Hunchback, negotiations have been ongoing with NATO. During this period, the bloc expanded significantly, conducted several wars, entered bases in the CIS, not to mention the countries of the former CMEA, and is courting Ukraine, smiling and patting our various negotiators on the shoulder. EuroPRO is the next stage. The results of the negotiations are obvious - there will be a missile defense, something will be shown to Makarov with Serdyukov NATO members or not. It’s time to think about how to effectively overcome pro, negotiations are useless, and the persons involved in the negotiations on our part are, to put it mildly, ambiguous.
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 2 May 2012 21: 19
      0
      Quote: Karabin

      Karabin

      Absolutely right. "REMEMBER THE WAR!" Admiral Makarov.
  11. igorek408
    igorek408 3 May 2012 10: 26
    0
    how can you talk with someone who wants to kill you, they take time to pull up the army ... Everything is just for this .... Look at the history of America - with whom did they agree?) They didn’t even live without war for 5 years ... Figuratively saying ...