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Open your face! .. In Belarus, commentators on sites will be identified via SMS

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The Belarusian Ministry of Information decided to keep up with the “exploits” of Roskomnadzor in supervising the activity on the Internet. True, the Ministry of Information of Belarus offers its solution. It concerns user comments to materials in electronic media and social networks.


The head of the department, Alexander Karlyukevich, is confident that the level of security in the state will significantly increase if the “commentators” on these or other sites will be registered on the site with their subsequent identification via telephone numbers - via SMS messages.

With a proposal for SMS-confirmation Karlyukevich spoke in the House of Representatives of the National Assembly today.

The Minister of Information of the Republic of Belarus stated that other communication channels could be used to identify the person commenting on the materials.

All these changes are planned by the Belarusian authorities against the background of a program to reform the work of the media. Among the changes is the expansion of the conceptual apparatus of the law on mass media (supplemented by the terms "online publication", "owner of an Internet resource", "Internet resource" and others), its extension to Internet resources that are involved in the dissemination of mass media.

Karlyukevich quotes IA "BelTA":
An Internet resource that has not passed state registration in the Ministry of Information, will not have the status of the media, and, consequently, its employees will not be journalists. At the same time, state registration will be voluntary. A similar approach is implemented in Russia.


Open your face! .. In Belarus, commentators on sites will be identified via SMS


The announced bill in Belarus was supported by an absolute majority of deputies - 98. Only two voted against. Two more people's representative in voting did not participate.

Deputies say that if a person is going to comment on the material on the Web, then he has no need to hide his personal data.
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  1. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov April 19 2018 14: 57
    +14
    It would be great to implement this with us! look into the eyes of some "commentators" - at age, education, social status, profession. And then everybody here is blurt out, and, often, irresponsibly. It's time to fix it.
    1. Hermann
      Hermann April 19 2018 14: 59
      +25
      "Comrade, believe, she will pass,
      so-called publicity,
      and then state security
      will remember your names. "
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 19 2018 15: 08
        +7
        Well, how will Trump enter VO now?
        1. Logall
          Logall April 19 2018 15: 12
          +10
          Quote: NIKNN
          Well, how will Trump enter VO now?

          Nikolai, Trump is not in Belarus! And IN Russian ... He is still among us, incognito!
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 19 2018 15: 15
            +4
            Quote: Logall
            Nikolai, Trump is not in Belarus! And IN Russian ... He is still among us, incognito!

            Ufff let go, or else he was cautious with a cell then ... repeat
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana April 19 2018 15: 26
              +6
              Deputies say that if a person is going to comment on the material on the Web, then he has no need to hide his personal data.

              And if it is a military or a representative of law enforcement agencies?
              After all, they are not legally entitled to engage in politics! This means that this social layer falls out of participation in the expression of a sincere own opinion regarding those who hold power in both domestic and foreign policy, because they are threatened with resignation.
              I came across this when in St. Petersburg they defended to keep all the educational and hospital buildings in the city and beyond at the Military Medical Academy.
              1. Thrall
                Thrall April 19 2018 15: 39
                +11
                By their unanimity, Belarusian people's deputies emphasize only that they do not have their own opinions and do not understand the topic. These are ordinary wedding generals, extras. If Old Man said, then so be it. Well, he was too lazy to issue a decree, or even less a decree. Therefore, they make this out by law. *
                * - message did not pass identification via SMS
                1. Warlock_r
                  Warlock_r April 20 2018 07: 49
                  0
                  But in Russia, of course, not so, huh. We have all the deputies - professionals and have their own opinion, aimed exclusively at the benefit of the people. It is only a pity that they consider the people exclusively themselves and their relatives ...
        2. Heterocapsa
          Heterocapsa April 20 2018 18: 43
          +1
          Trump constantly writes here at the end of the message He Hye
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 20 2018 18: 55
            +1
            Quote: Heterocapsa
            Trump constantly writes here at the end of the message He Hye

            laughing Meehan is our guy, The main task is to troll the Jews ... laughing
      2. Thrall
        Thrall April 19 2018 15: 10
        +8
        The overwhelming bill in Belarus was supported by an absolute majority of deputies - 98. Only two voted against. Two more people's representatives did not participate in the vote.

        In Belarus (unlike Russia) no one knows these people and nothing depends on them. *

        * - message did not pass identification via SMS
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn April 19 2018 15: 21
          +4
          You just need to connect moderators with VO ... And the enemy will not pass soldier
          Our banshee, the most humane banshee in the world wink (hope this time, I didn’t run into) laughing
      3. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum April 19 2018 15: 10
        +5
        Something "state security" is not what the names did not recall, but frankly the events of 1991-1993. missed, inactive. Or, on the contrary, was actively involved? In my favor.
        One of them, won, even became president. Interestingly, he left and drove?
        And how many of them have become big businesses or close to the body? Capitalism, it is capitalism in Africa.
      4. 76SSSR
        76SSSR April 19 2018 16: 03
        +5
        Repressions are coming in Belarus, I feel ... The 39th year will seem a prank in comparison with the Father’s campaign.
        1. viralig
          viralig April 19 2018 16: 25
          +3
          I agree with you that the control is already about two above.
      5. populist
        populist April 19 2018 16: 09
        +2

        German (German)
        "Comrade, believe, she will pass,
        so-called publicity,
        and then state security
        will remember your names. "

        good
        In, Lukashenko is trying to maintain his authoritarian power. So that everyone is under the hood. wassat
    2. hrych
      hrych April 19 2018 15: 06
      +4
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      look into the eyes of some "commentators"

      Identification will not be for other commentators, but for services. We have nothing to hide, since we do not urge to overthrow the system, do not recruit daishaki and do not muck on the Russian State good
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov April 19 2018 15: 09
        +3
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        look into the eyes of some "commentators"

        Identification will not be for other commentators, but for services.


        But what about: "... if a person is going to comment on material on the Web, then he does not need to hide his personal data"?
        1. hrych
          hrych April 19 2018 15: 12
          +4
          Quote: Eduard Petrov
          if a person is going to comment on material on the Web, then he doesn’t need to hide his personal data "?

          Here, besides state security, there is another aspect, for defamation and insults, you can run into a lawsuit wassat Therefore, many apposition botoblogers will be blown away by the wind wassat
    3. RASKAT
      RASKAT April 19 2018 15: 17
      +2
      It would be great to implement this with us! look into the eyes of some "commentators" - at age, education, social status, profession. And then everybody here is blurt out, and, often, irresponsibly. It's time to fix it.
      Well, on sites like this construct there would be more. Since all Children would run away to sites where you can stay incognito.
    4. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 19 2018 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      It would be great to implement this with us! look into the eyes of some "commentators" - at age, education, social status, profession. And then everybody here is blurt out, and, often, irresponsibly. It's time to fix it.

      Wow, more than that, you need to clarify where people get information from. For example, a person indicates that I regularly watch Solovyov-Sheinin and co, from there I find out the state of affairs in the world .. and immediately you can no longer argue with that, even regret somewhere .. And the other one writes, I’m getting a salary from the State Department and news from the CIA naprchmu- here with him and discuss world politics in full, to prove that he is bad and his business is wrong !!!
      1. Eduard petrov
        Eduard petrov April 19 2018 15: 52
        +2
        Quote: Semen1972
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        It would be great to implement this with us! look into the eyes of some "commentators" - at age, education, social status, profession. And then everybody here is blurt out, and, often, irresponsibly. It's time to fix it.

        Wow, more than that, you need to clarify where people get information from. For example, a person indicates that I regularly watch Solovyov-Sheinin and co, from there I find out the state of affairs in the world .. and immediately you can no longer argue with that, even regret somewhere .. And the other one writes, I’m getting a salary from the State Department and news from the CIA naprchmu- here with him and discuss world politics in full, to prove that he is bad and his business is wrong !!!

        No need to exaggerate, everything needs a balance. Baseless insults and flood also do not contribute to the constructive. Often it is simply impossible to read comments because it looks like a meaningless and incoherent set of words and expressions.
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 April 19 2018 16: 23
          +2
          Quote: Eduard Petrov
          Often it is simply impossible to read comments because it looks like a meaningless and incoherent set of words and expressions.

          I agree, but you believe that your point of view looks like a deep and thoughtful analysis, but it is better to simply shoot those who do not agree with you. Obviously, they are enemies of the Fatherland !!! You should cooperate with the FSB, so they would catch spies.
          PS And how not to flood, reading such sentences? Or should they be read with a serious face? How are the guests in Soloviev’s studio?
        2. Victor N
          Victor N April 19 2018 17: 41
          0
          Who will filter out a "set of words"? Those wishing to speculate on unknown topics - a dime a dozen.
    5. Benjamin Gnomes
      Benjamin Gnomes April 19 2018 17: 37
      0
      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      It would be great to implement this with us! look into the eyes of some "commentators" - at age, education, social status, profession. And then everybody here is blurt out, and, often, irresponsibly. It's time to fix it.

      Specifically, you don’t look at them anywhere) they will look at garbage in case of need)
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 23
        0
        Quote: Benjamin Gnomes
        Specifically, you don’t look at them anywhere) they will look at garbage in case of need)

        In case of need ... I usually look at pisaur.
    6. zloybond
      zloybond April 19 2018 19: 55
      0
      it's just a business. SMS is not free. accordingly, money from the air.
      Nothing more new.
    7. Slovak
      Slovak April 19 2018 20: 16
      0
      all who graze on the Echo of Moscow, on the Rain, the Gudkov family, Navalny, etc. everyone sees, knows, and what? They began to pay less mattress covers and Gazprom?
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 25
        0
        Quote: Slovak
        all who graze on the Echo of Moscow, on the Rain, the Gudkov family, Navalny, etc. everyone sees, knows, and what? They began to pay less mattress covers and Gazprom?

        Wow ... that is, listen to the Echo and you will be paid with bucks ??? I listen from time to time, about the affairs in Russia they have infa before and more extensive than federal channels. And the Rain is paid and boring ... But I did not know what the bucks give for it. Where to go, comrade .. how are you ... Dreamer !!!
    8. beeper
      beeper April 19 2018 22: 47
      +2
      Dear Eduard Petrov, forgive me generously, but are you on the VO website ("with us"?) Not by the number of your cell phone and the SMS code that came to it? If so, then why are these equivocations about “look into some pensive eyes” wink ?
      Do not worry so in vain, because if necessary, then all real (and not "self-advertised-imaginary") personal data will easily "break through" by the SIM number (this is not to mention your or my IP address winked, which on some sites is simply displayed in the public window "website visitors", along with the country and the name of the village, because "anonymity on the Internet" is just a sweet illusion of lol!))), or you have it "left" not registered in your name smile ?
      hi
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 26
        0
        Quote: pishchak
        Are you on the VO website (“with us”?) You are not registered by your mobile number and SMS code that came to it ???

        No, this is not here. Where did you get this ???
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 19 2018 14: 59
    0
    I am for our Gopstopnadzor! .. And Old Man, too, come on for this .. These dogs will spread rot on all fronts! We work men Belarusians together .. soldier
  3. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 April 19 2018 15: 07
    +6
    Quite already. We will soon go to the toilet through identification
    1. Hermann
      Hermann April 19 2018 15: 13
      +15
      What if you eat more than you officially earn? laughing
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 19 2018 15: 23
        +2
        We’ll soon go to the toilet through identification ........ What if you eat farther than officially earn?

        More precisely: Wed ... those .... winked
    2. Eduard petrov
      Eduard petrov April 19 2018 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      Quite already. We will soon go to the toilet through identification

      I generally advocate universal chipization. This will be how much benefit:
      - no one will cross the road in the wrong place - immediately a satellite photo and a fine);
      - no one will violate traffic rules (the same);
      - there will be no crimes (it is always known who is where, 100% disclosure);
      - all the information on the chip (all documents, medicine, travel cards, money - everything is under the skin) - you will not need bank cards or passports, nothing at all, it’s very convenient and scans in a second;
      - the absence of corruption as such - all money is only on a chip, a ban on cash, a single "wallet";
      - complete transparency and convenience for law-abiding citizens;
      - disciplines.

      I would rather.
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum April 19 2018 15: 22
        +9
        Quote: Eduard Petrov

        I generally advocate universal chipization. This will be how much benefit:
        ...
        - disciplines.
        I would rather.

        Well, you fucking give! The first time I read a man who is for voluntary slavery.
        There are many more moments in life when you do not need to do this.
        You / your chip will definitely be used, and not the fact that government agencies.
        You obviously like the dystopian genre a lot.
        1. Eduard petrov
          Eduard petrov April 19 2018 15: 24
          +2
          Well, what is there about slave? Do what you want, complete freedom, as it is now, just don’t violate and do not steal, everything.
          Now it’s almost the same, given the number of CCTV cameras and other means of control, only it will all be optimized and transparent. And there is no risk of losing a passport, keys, cards. Conveniently.
          1. User
            User April 19 2018 17: 41
            +5
            Quote: Eduard Petrov
            all this will be optimized and transparent

            Day of those who manage this system. Here is the criminal code is a necessary thing. Committed a crime - get punished. Only everything rests on people "at the top". Golden youth, wives, mistresses and other “their” people always come out of the water dry, and it does not matter to one person they have broken their lives or a dozen. And even publicity does not help.
            This system would be good if all people were honest, fair and responsible. For the same reason, communism will remain unattainable for humanity in the foreseeable future.
            In theory, all people are equal, but in practice there are people "more equal." So with the use of chips, reality will be very different from theory.
        2. Eduard petrov
          Eduard petrov April 19 2018 15: 29
          +2
          Does someone use your passport or a credit card (I have a Platinum visa with a passport and nothing) now? Cell phone? What are these "grandmother's" concerns?
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum April 19 2018 16: 53
            +7
            Eduard Petrov!
            It seems that you very strongly and in vain so blindly trust the state. For him, you are an individual, a tax unit, an electorate, with a life expectancy ...
            It cannot protect you, unless it protects itself at this moment.
            The state has "thrown" you / us more than once during 1991-1992-1998-2008, etc., the successors of those who threw have already appeared, and the "seized" capital has become hereditary ...
            And here is who the state protects from population, using the Criminal Code and its monopoly on violence, we all know: oligarchic and bureaucratic capital, constitutional (capitalist !!!) system, power ...
            Family, loved ones, friends - this is whom you can and should trust, reciprocating.
        3. Semen1972
          Semen1972 April 19 2018 15: 48
          +2
          Quote: Pax tecum
          Well, you fucking give! The first time I read a man who is for voluntary slavery.

          We are all Putin's foot soldiers! Let him control us remotely, I'm only for !!!
          1. Eduard petrov
            Eduard petrov April 19 2018 16: 24
            +1
            Quote: Semen1972
            Quote: Pax tecum
            Well, you fucking give! The first time I read a man who is for voluntary slavery.

            We are all Putin's foot soldiers! Let him control us remotely, I'm only for !!!

            Semyon, I asked not to exaggerate. Give arguments against, we will discuss.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 19 2018 15: 40
        +2
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        I generally advocate universal chipization.

        And I am against. Everything else you said is nonsense.
        Quote: Eduard Petrov
        I would rather.

        Haha, I’m so happy; go with a chip yourself, which they can cut down at any time.
      3. viralig
        viralig April 19 2018 16: 20
        +8
        And how will you live? It is easier then to fence off everything with a thorn in zones - to work on a whistle and food on a whistle, and generally everything according to a schedule. And think, but neither. Nothing is humanly erroneous, and not necessarily on purpose. Yes, and why just do it then, a person - it’s easier to develop a little more and replace all robots, they generally will not show any requirements and desires. Return to the sinful earth - the more a person is squeezed - the more he protests. Yes, traffic violations and offenses are supposedly easier to eradicate. But let's look at the realities - during the USSR there were neither mobiles nor cameras on the street. Moreover, I would say there were settlements where you could not lock the doors, not to mention that if a child plays on the street without supervision, this is normal .... . AND NOW???????
        1. Eduard petrov
          Eduard petrov April 19 2018 16: 30
          +1
          Peter, you’re a strange person ...) So it’s smart to have one that constantly (!) And tirelessly monitors our movement (passwords / appearances / addresses), addictions, interests, in which everyone already has mobile banks with attached cards, you can already pay smart in the store, so this is all normal, but to consolidate this with medical documents and a driver’s license is already a bust in your opinion, right? Moreover, it is not entirely clear to whom in the end it is! That's how people have become hypocritical - they want to have benefits, but to get as much as possible from responsibility, right? Hypocritical, huh?)
          I don’t need to talk about the USSR, I myself lived, I know, I remember and I can tell a lot of things myself. There were a lot of unpleasant things, especially in small cities, industrial areas, etc.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 19 2018 16: 41
            +4
            Quote: Eduard Petrov
            but get away from liability to the maximum, yes?

            This is not a responsibility. The point is total control by a group of people over the rest of the world.
            1. Eduard petrov
              Eduard petrov April 19 2018 17: 09
              +1
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Eduard Petrov
              but get away from liability to the maximum, yes?

              This is not a responsibility. The point is total control by a group of people over the rest of the world.

              All these are sophisms. Once again - cameras at every step, smarts monitor all aspects of our lives in favor of private corporations and none of this control is worse. Unless to criminals who are caught on cameras and phones. Any examples of the opposite? Bring!
              Speaking of chipization, I mean the complete elimination of crime and the simplification of bureaucratic procedures with references, documents and other attributes. Progress cannot be stopped, people already wear chips (bank cards) in bracelets, having the same under the skin (with anti-theft protection) is a matter of time.
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                2. Eduard petrov
                  Eduard petrov April 19 2018 18: 09
                  +1
                  Wear it at least in the ass, but I don’t need such happiness.

                  But you should not be rude.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 19 2018 18: 36
                    +3
                    I apologize, since you are so scrupulous. Implant yourself at least the Internet in the brain, with instructions from Google. And in the army there will probably be secret chips, right?
              2. Semen1972
                Semen1972 April 19 2018 17: 57
                +4
                Quote: Eduard Petrov
                Speaking of chipization, I mean the complete elimination of crime and the simplification of bureaucratic procedures with references, documents and other attributes. Progress cannot be stopped, people already wear chips (bank cards) in bracelets, having the same under the skin (with anti-theft protection) is a matter of time.

                How do you suggest? At birth? Or in the kindergarten? At school? Who did not pass, to expel from the country? To shoot? And if I have two citizenships, do I send the system to the forest? Do you know. what is most crime among visitors. what to do with them? I have a proposal in this regard. Like in the movie "Running Man". On a neck a collar with explosives .. Here I wrote that Pu .. but no boshka. And why Russia "all sorts of buzaters." It’s not just crime, we’ll destroy all sorts of vile “fifth columns” in one fell swoop ... You know, you’re very right ... damn right thing now ... now we’ll live like in Paradise !!!
                1. Eduard petrov
                  Eduard petrov April 19 2018 18: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: Semen1972
                  Quote: Eduard Petrov
                  Speaking of chipization, I mean the complete elimination of crime and the simplification of bureaucratic procedures with references, documents and other attributes. Progress cannot be stopped, people already wear chips (bank cards) in bracelets, having the same under the skin (with anti-theft protection) is a matter of time.

                  How do you suggest? At birth? Or in the kindergarten? At school? Who did not pass, to expel from the country? To shoot? And if I have two citizenships, do I send the system to the forest? Do you know. what is most crime among visitors. what to do with them? I have a proposal in this regard. Like in the movie "Running Man". On a neck a collar with explosives .. Here I wrote that Pu .. but no boshka. And why Russia "all sorts of buzaters." It’s not just crime, we’ll destroy all sorts of vile “fifth columns” in one fell swoop ... You know, you’re very right ... damn right thing now ... now we’ll live like in Paradise !!!

                  I see you are somewhat overly emotional, you should not react like that, you need to approach everything calmly, philosophically ...) Our world is not black and white and, moreover, is not divided into Zaputinists and liberals (what does liberals have to do with it?))
                  1. Semen1972
                    Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 04
                    0
                    Quote: Eduard Petrov
                    I see you are a little too emotional, you shouldn’t react like that,

                    And as without emotions .. such prospects open, it remains to give free rein to the representatives of the VO site))) As for the b / w world ... on this site it is not that. that b / w, it is all black, with one white spot in the form of Putin and Stalin)) For which I love this site, only here you can give free rein to the stream of consciousness in this direction))))
          2. viralig
            viralig April 19 2018 17: 46
            +5
            Smart, this is your voluntary choice. About the amenities that you have in Russia in this matter, I do not say. I can tell you how we are doing here. Where there is a State that has a medical base, traffic police base, tax base, ATC base, KGB base, telecom base, air base, each trading village has its own subscriber base, not to mention banks. Guess from three times how they relate to each other - yes, no other than banks and the company. It is impossible to put them together because of different levels of access to data for different people - well, the management cannot understand at the technical level that this can be distinguished. I will not say that nothing is being done in this area at all - it is being done but sluggishly and with huge mistakes. And where is the benefit of this, I’m for the benefit that the doctor does not write out the prescription on the paper rather than on a piece of paper, and you put it into the computer, you go to the pharmacy and buy the necessary medicine, and do not play guessing the prescription. Here, private traders were engaged in long-distance transportation - it was nice and beautiful, I ordered a ticket through net for a certain day, and I indicated where to pick up the route, and voila - no, the state is not necessary, we’ll be old-fashioned (read the Belarusian forums), unhappy - come on Goodbye.
            I do not say that during the Soviet Union, paradise was. Good - so for these benefits and denyushka charged. Only I have never shied away from responsibility - and not a question has been raised about this - but about the restriction of personal freedom. If you do not see anything bad in this, then this is your personal opinion, you expressed it, I expressed it - and anonymously. We are forced to authorize in this matter - there seems to be nothing wrong with that, but since you well remember the USSR, what happened to the person who was assigned a certain label ??? And if this is a stupid child of 13-17 years old, he will leave a certain post and his whole life is broken - the machine (state) will grind - now she will not forgive mistakes, she is a machine, and she will not jump above the vocational school, although she will have makings for more. Nothing regarding the punishment of dissenters from the times of the USSR in Belarus has changed, even tightened.
            It is hypocritical: to do nothing at all, to watch from the side how they offend the weak, scoff at the animal, etc. And to defend your point of view - in my opinion is quite.
            We have a little something, saying, look at what taxes are paid for this and that in the same Germany or the USA, how this or that issue is dear - only at the same time they are silent about the level of salaries in the same Germany, and what they have in total, and here pay a communal phone, etc. and see what you have left in monetary terms, so that until the next salary you have enough for food, not to mention buying clothes. And the children also want this and that. Well - getting a second job - it seems possible - is not officially prohibited. I was lucky to find a second job - an inspection on labor protection comes and voila - it turns out you work more than 12 hours a day - but this is impossible and you are fined. FUN? Do you think Belarusians in Russia from a good life go to work? So, with this earned money, our native state seeks to snatch a piece. But okay, this is all so lyrical digression.
            1. Semen1972
              Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 12
              0
              Quote: viralig
              it was nice and beautiful, I ordered a ticket for a certain day via net, and indicated where to pick up the route, and voila - no, the state isn’t necessary, we’ll be old-fashioned (read the Belarusian forums), unsatisfied - let's see you later.

              And is it not this people who taldychit that there is no need to change power, no reforms needed, everything is only for the worse, and in general America wants to destroy us all. And what's the point of permanent power to do something? These pensioners work the old way for decades and years ... and everyone likes it. Do not be a child, there will be no power to do something yourself. This is human nature. Nothing will change, forget it. Better calm down and scold the Americans and Ukrainians.
              1. viralig
                viralig April 21 2018 01: 19
                0
                There is none of this - even those who 5 years ago stood by the mountain for the current leadership - howled - but too late. The press is very strong and the people are fragmented if only they were hooked like last year when they took on parasites - and attacks with the current mentality .....
                Let it be as it is? Yes, sensible young people from Belarus are fleeing and not going to return, and more and more often not just young people. The villages are dying out completely. And the immortal power at this pace will remain one. Since they will die out or run away, the current generation, how many did not work for retirement, may not count. There is no prospect whatsoever. They ruined science, the education of eating at a glance breathes, I’m not talking about the army at all. Last year’s teachings, on our part, there was one window dressing. And the notorious "Polonaise" - in fact it is CHINESE - if you want to read, the Chinese rocket and for export i.e. with uttan tactical and technical, but only our tractor. Believe me, you can write a lot more.
                And scolding Ukrainians-for what? Because corrupt politicians came to power with their personal armies - that was the senility there for a long time, just at one moment their owners from the White House were asked to report for the loot. Americans - believe ordinary Americans violet where there far away someone is fighting with someone they are more concerned about their pressing problems. The blame for their elite and the gray cardinals of the Fed (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.). That is, the Anglo-Saxon elite (both in Europe and America) and bankers are to blame.
    3. viralig
      viralig April 19 2018 15: 40
      +6
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      We will soon go to the toilet through identification

      I don’t know about the toilet, but an electronic passport - the Russian Orthodox Church sent a note to the government about this. They just wanted to spit. Catholics do not care - because if the priests are gay and this is normal, then the attitude to the Bible is similar. And so, there are video cameras in cities on every corner, and there wasn’t any order. The cops don’t care about the main job - why would they fill out extra papers only if they don’t receive a command from the top, then they dig the earth with their nose.
    4. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 19 2018 16: 30
      0
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      Quite already. We will soon go to the toilet through identification

      You will, and there is nothing to cry. Or do you have something to hide? As long as the Western “bearers of democracy” are injecting billions of dollars into the country to “support democracy” and organize color coups, measures must be taken. It is no secret that their field of activity is primarily the Internet. So the "father" is right, probably the example of Ukraine teaches something.
  4. ser65
    ser65 April 19 2018 15: 21
    +2
    and rightly so .... the pig in the pots has dirtied all the Russian forums.
  5. viralig
    viralig April 19 2018 15: 29
    +11
    Comrades, this is the insanity of our state, where a dossier is kept for everyone. Believe me, there is nothing good in this, for all this is introduced in order to protect the system from changes. I am not an oppositionist. I do not like their pro-Western views, but instead of engaging in the economy, they are burying money in the control of citizens. I understand that they want to stay in power, but not by the same methods. At least in the forums and in the comments, the people could let out a few pairs, and so they cover up this opportunity. I'm afraid that history teaches us that - teaches nothing (
    If this goes on, then comrades, Russians will have an incomprehensible formation at your side, ready to split into 2 parts because the western one looks towards Warsaw, the eastern one looks towards Russia, warmed up with incompetent leadership - which can make any enterprise unprofitable by stratifying society and pushing their foreheads ,. and in the bud chopping any undertaking of private owners, as well as frightening with its "stability" foreign investors for their own transferred.
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx April 19 2018 15: 42
      +7
      This is not only I assure you. We have forums whose leaders live abroad and are afraid for their domain. They remove posts and ban for any criticism of the authorities, special services contacted the forum administration and voila do not need any SMS.
      The admin for his forum is afraid, the cop for his uniform, the military for epaulettes, the teacher for certification, the media for accreditation, the singer is afraid that the path to the show will close, the seller of cucumbers will take the point, check, tax and so on and so forth. modern slavery.
      1. viralig
        viralig April 19 2018 16: 00
        +6
        I hope your state does not push these groups of people against their foreheads? It does not force teachers to go to apartments and find out who lives for beggarly salaries. It is clear that there are different methods to control the masses of people. But why mock people (for example, a disabled person who has lost legs must undergo a medical examination every year to receive a disability pension - as if his leg would grow up in a year. The notorious free Belarusian medicine is not long ago, yesterday, the conversation of two women is at a halt "- it’s a loan took it to buy a joint implant - "And a bunch of everything, and then they’re lazy at all, not only that, if there is a need, they will find this person (the data is already written - by any Internet provider). So here also ..... ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 15: 55
      0
      Quote: viralig
      Comrades are the insanity of our state

      it’s not insanity, but normal hygiene of thoughts, I would also oblige the commentator to not be able to hide behind a nickname
      if you want to express your thoughts - go ahead, but you should know that your uncle Vasya’s neighbor can also read your “thought” and trick you into a tambourine for it
      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ April 19 2018 16: 32
        +6
        I’ve been banned twice for life for touching the "holy cows" on the site. And how will I appear here again?
      2. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx April 19 2018 16: 41
        +7
        Knocking a tambourine because of a "thought"? The brilliant evolution of slave psychology.
        We had one dude, a blogger went and rented villas for civil servants. Restaurants, villas, summer cottages of ministers, deputies, etc. Caught for hooliganism, slapped a fine for resistance to the police, then hung an article defamation, sitting for 2 years. The poor guy went filming and asked the question is from there they have so much property. When he began to gain popularity on Facebook and YouTube he was shut up.
        Then one deputy came out saying let's close Facebook. An unknown young guy took a camera and began to voice his thoughts, that's the end.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 18: 02
          0
          Quote: Lek3338
          Knocking a tambourine because of a "thought"? The brilliant evolution of slave psychology
          for some "thoughts", not only banging your forehead with greens, you need to smear
          and about the "slave psychology" just the opposite is true if you do not respond to rudeness and insults and there is that same psychology
      3. viralig
        viralig April 19 2018 16: 48
        +5
        Dear Vladimir Vasilenko, first, hygiene of thought should begin with higher-ups, who should not just call empty, first, but to fulfill the responsibilities that they have assumed and not shift the blame on others, and not express terrible incompetence on the issues that they voice; secondly, if a person is diagnosed with a clinic, he needs to be treated and not beaten in the face; thirdly, the discussion is not an official publication (like a newspaper or television) - which is censored (at least by the editor-in-chief), then - any forum that respects itself is moderated (respectively, censored again), and in general if you are a well-educated person, you won’t go down to level - cad, and last but not least - everything goes from upbringing - if it’s not you who are raising children, but the Internet, don’t be surprised where so many trolls come from. It’s necessary not only to dump a bunch of thoughts on the Internet, but also to take into account the opinions of others - and the Internet is more and more like a verbal garbage dump and this method will not affect it in any way, and it serves other very specific purposes - alas, far from noble.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 18: 17
          0
          Quote: viralig
          about the second, if the person is diagnosed with a clinic, he needs to be treated and not beaten in the face;

          that is, they wish you death, they insult your mother, and you modestly lower your eyes and send them to the hospital?
          1. viralig
            viralig April 19 2018 18: 42
            +2
            So a person via the Internet anonymously insulted you - does it upset you to such an extent?
            Or is it like a red rag for a bull for you?
            Or maybe he did it from a BIG mind?
            Now if there is a personal insult then there are two ways - the first is simple as you put it — the face should be cleaned, there is a second to attract as much as you like to the administrator.
            But then again, the local fool is clearly not friends with his head - will you beat your face ????
            Or, what was written on aswalt by the children of Vasya - "stupid" - should each counter-cross Vasya take on his own account?
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 19: 42
              0
              Quote: viralig
              So a person via the Internet anonymously insulted you - does it upset you to such an extent?

              you understand what I mean, but at the same time
              1. viralig
                viralig April 19 2018 20: 31
                +2
                Remember, Vladimir, if you were personally offended on the Internet, write a statement to the competent authorities and let them deal with this - and this is their direct responsibility and SMS does not affect it at all, do not confuse the warm with the soft. If they need them, they will find who wrote it - believe me there are methods. Muzzle stuff - this is either the administrator or the criminal - depending on how to incriminate. Yes, and I saw just a few times how the legal was engaged - just turn such a trifle they did not deal only with: hackers of sites and personal aks (including gambling), theft of Internet money or cashing through them, well, inciting ethnic hatred.
                And even before insulting your person on the Internet it’s far and deep until yours, your opponent does not proceed to active illegal actions, unless of course you are a representative of the elite - which I doubt very much because you are on this site, and the elite has other priorities like their homework.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 21: 46
                  0
                  Quote: viralig
                  Remember, Vladimir, if you were personally offended on the Internet, write a statement to the competent authorities and let them deal with this

                  first you are not a teacher, I am not a student, therefore, change the tone
                  the second, as soon as anonymity disappears, many simply cease to be rude, and suddenly they are rude to a neighbor, and not to an unknown user from the Far East
                  1. Rader
                    Rader April 20 2018 02: 12
                    +1
                    I will wedge myself into the dialogue and add a little of my opinion.
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    the second, as soon as anonymity disappears, many simply cease to be rude, and suddenly they are rude to a neighbor, and not to an unknown user from the Far East

                    True remark. But you do not take into account that part of the haml (decent enough) will not go anywhere. These are the people who send us on the streets when they’re drunk (because something in their head got stuck) that the ambulances don’t miss (because they have a Lexus - it’s no good for them to give in to anyone) ... You think that if you find out who is rude to you (well, let's say a person from a neighboring entrance), will something change? Well, you come to this individual under faith, knock what's next? "Apologize bastard ... oh, in the sense of a bad person! You insulted me 5 minutes ago in VO." He will answer you with a sacramental expression: "Go n ******!". So, what is next? Scrub your face? In fact, you are right, but according to the law ... It was you who came to his house, started a conflict, brought to a fight, and all this instead of contacting the police! As a result, we have the same things where we started. You can write a statement even today, and a person (for example, that he promised you and your family that ...) should find and ... But no one will do this, most likely will not, alas ...
                    But there are fears that a new layer of people (mentally inadequate) will appear, that they will try to find and cut down for disagreeing with them about, say, the color of cowards ...
                    And yes, in any case there will be VPNs and other progressive dregs, which will help to stay in the shade. As the hamlo was in Net, it will remain so. hi
              2. viralig
                viralig April 21 2018 01: 40
                +1
                I don’t teach you, I’m just trying to convey my point of view.
                1) SMS will not personally give you information about the user, but the software of the competent authorities will write down, by keywords you can mark certain individuals as not trustworthy - with all the consequences for them.
                2) If the information is acceptable about the user who personally offended you was a vowel - on the contrary, this contributed to the growth of crime. After all, most of the insults are either from a small mind, or from sound drinking, or from the fact that he is a boor in life. Well, you will not remake the majority of the people, no matter how you would like. And they are used to understanding their own way. And scuffle in real life will only be flowers. Look, for example, in TS-kah people swear if in real life there will be at least a fight.
                3) This decree does not bear any moral and ethical background. Stupidly restrict the rights of citizens. Out in Vitebsk on the day of constitution, the people of 8 people in the apartment gathered. Well, apparently one of the neighbors called. The police arrived - the case to court - the court sentenced a fine - for violating the law on assemblies - it was necessary to register. That is, if you celebrate a birthday, a funeral .... you must still take for this permission. And this is far from funny.
    3. Semen1972
      Semen1972 April 19 2018 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: viralig
      Comrades, this is the insanity of our state, where a dossier is kept for everyone. Believe me, there is nothing good in this, for all this is introduced to protect the system from changes

      Brilliant !!!!! Are you going to change the system ??? To encroach on our foundations ???? Our principle is that we do not change presidents at the crossing !! And who is going to reform - to export to Belovezhskaya Pushcha !!!!
      1. viralig
        viralig April 19 2018 18: 21
        +4
        Semyon, well, I have complaints against your president, believe me, there are none at all. There is a conversation about my Belarus. If you think that I am going to change the system - you are deeply mistaken, it’s not real, this requires both financial and human resources, and most importantly an understanding of these very changes (changes for the sake of change are nonsense), but I can give certain from my bell tower advice, but I'm not saying that they are 100% correct - I do not have (economic education). But even I understand that enterprises periodically need to be modernized, and not squeezed like a lemon without letting them update production.
        And Belovezhskaya Pushcha was a GREAT mistake of its time, which during the transition period broke a huge number of fates, only you got out of this forest, and we still wander.
    4. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 19 2018 16: 35
      +1
      Quote: viralig
      At least in the forums and in the comments, the people could let out a few pairs

      Please do not confuse things like scolding the government (nobody forbids this) and calls for "coups", the overthrow of power and the division of the state. If you want to let off steam, marry a feminist and fight at least every day.
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 April 19 2018 17: 35
        +2
        Quote: Orionvit
        how to scold the government (nobody forbids this) and calls for "coups", the overthrow of power and the division of the state.

        Who offers the division of the state? Can I have at least one link ????? Or just come up with a ceiling on the go?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 18: 22
          +2
          Quote: Semen1972
          Who offers the division of the state? Can I have at least one link ????? Or just come up with a ceiling on the go?

          https://echo.msk.ru
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 18
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            https://echo.msk.ru

            Opened side Echo .. And what I see.
            1) When a terrible fire occurred in Kemerovo, children died, the first words of Tuleyev were words of gratitude to the president for a sympathetic phone call. And it was a shame. Then Tuleyev asked for forgiveness from the president (not from people who lost loved ones) - and this was again a shame
            2) Comrades grow stronger insanity and the farther, the more fun. The Ministry of Transport’s planned ban on the transport of children in wheelchairs in the subway and bicycles, as well as a number of other progressive ideas that mortals want for us, is a new round of idiocy and mockery of the Russian population. Forgot to add wheelchairs for the disabled here ... ..
            Dear Sirs, it’s possible specifically for information about the division of the state and the overthrow of power .. I understand that there are a lot of sofa balabolov .. but they have to keep their word. I promise to bring information on the division of the state to the IC of Russia (there are friends there). Help rid the country of Enemies !!!!
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 20 2018 19: 19
              0
              Quote: Semen1972
              Opened side Echo .. And what I see.

              don't play the fool you all understood
              Quote: Semen1972
              I understand that a lot of sofa balabolov ..
              self-critical
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit April 19 2018 18: 31
          +1
          Quote: Semen1972
          Who offers the division of the state?

          Yes, walk at least through the "echo of Moscow", there is enough of such goodness. The liberals' calls for the violent overthrow of power automatically imply a civil war and the division of the state. Listen Sobchak, with her ideas to return the Crimea. Or do you think Crimea is not Russia? Can you tell me more that there are no separatist sentiments in the national regions, like enough to “feed” Moscow? Can you tell me that the State Department is not working on this? In short, return to the earth and the Internet to help you.
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 April 20 2018 10: 19
            0
            Quote: Orionvit
            Yes, walk at least through the "echo of Moscow", there is enough of such goodness. Liberal calls for the violent overthrow of power,

            I ran this morning, I didn’t find .. you can give a specific link, I promise to transfer it to the Investigative Committee of Russia !!! Block to hell. Give links, of which you have found a lot .. I just did not find any ..
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 20 2018 19: 27
              +1
              Quote: Semen1972
              I ran this morning, did not find ..

              do not turn on the fool, go through the comments

              xoxlotvari: Russian feudation needs to be left as part of the Moksha swamps.

              kp6ic
              and when will you flog Putin's Russia with yet another sanction?

              cattt
              For the coat of arms of Russia, the same cock from FDII, perfectly demonstrates the internal essence and direction of international politics.
              1. Semen1972
                Semen1972 April 23 2018 10: 01
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                do not turn on the chuck, go through the comments

                According to the comments ???? Are you seriously???? I really thought that there was something .. and you are just a balabol ... but what is it, that everyone only scratches their tongues.
                Do you really think that there is a crime in those comments? I wonder what kind of education you have and how many years?
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir April 23 2018 12: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Semen1972
                  According to the comments ???? Are you seriously????

                  Quote: Semen1972
                  Do you really think that there is a crime in those comments? I wonder what kind of education you have and how many years?

                  I think older than you
                  By the way, when they talked about the crime, although if you want to, there are such people there, only you and your dearest friend will not do this, why don’t cut the stars, you’re "serving" for them
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit April 20 2018 21: 59
              +1
              You have already been answered here without me. Want more "flattering" words, please contact.
      2. viralig
        viralig April 19 2018 18: 28
        +4
        Regarding blaming the government, this is called criticism, but moving on to individuals with a selective vocabulary is another matter entirely. And believe me, for the most part, for many people it really was an opportunity to throw out their emotions - without turning to insults. And about the issue of letting off couples marrying a feminist - advise forever to the site of the big buy site. They will evaluate your sarcasm and tell you where to go with it.
        And I did not call for the collapse of the state, it itself can happen if it continues to continue like this, because than the government pushing people together does not want to see how it separates them, I say this based on the 2016 polls. I have always been against the partition because it crushes not only the state but also human destinies.
  6. impostor
    impostor April 19 2018 15: 31
    +5
    Suspicions in the fight against dissent cause only a smile. In the IT era, there is no need for clandestine printing houses or leaflets. In order to go to the page agitprop Semin sms-identification is not needed. And the suppression of dissent has not been necessary for capitalism in power for a long time, completely different technologies are successfully working to preserve both the capitalist course and regime.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 15: 53
      0
      Quote: impostor
      in the fight against dissent they cause only a smile.

      but what does dissent have to do with it?
      brave, go to battle with an open face
      1. impostor
        impostor April 19 2018 18: 11
        +1
        What are you talking about? Are you really sure that you can hide behind your nickname and proxy from control? Oh my God...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 18: 27
          0
          in fact, the conversation is not about special services
          1. impostor
            impostor April 19 2018 18: 34
            +1
            The whole question is where is the boundary between freedom and security. I choose security. If I make some criticism of the state machine - this is one thing, if I use a social network to commit a crime - it is completely different. IMHO.
  7. Black joe
    Black joe April 19 2018 15: 45
    +1
    I think everyone will come to this sooner or later
  8. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 15: 51
    +1
    In Belarus, commentators on sites will be identified via SMS

    for the "ear" is extremely relevant, but generally correct, in reality everything is modest and quiet, but how revolutionaries hid behind the monitor
    By the way, Kazakhs have already introduced this
  9. Swed
    Swed April 19 2018 15: 53
    +5
    On news sites of the Republic of Belarus, and so in most cases, comments are turned off, and where not, there srach chases srach, so to speak they let off steam. Nobody is watching local channels at all, not even grandparents, so expect crowds of trolls, dissatisfied, etc. on domains - * .ru and * .com;) I was surprised that 2 deputies voted against. Either they pressed the wrong button or do not want to be re-elected for a new term. After all, elections in the Republic of Belarus are a completely different story. :)
    1. viralig
      viralig April 19 2018 16: 49
      +3
      not surprised two oppositionists were let in deputies - guess from three times who voted against
      1. Fitter
        Fitter April 19 2018 20: 23
        +2
        Not the fact that it is these, I am inclined to the version about the error when choosing the button :)
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 19 2018 16: 15
    +2
    All users of social networks on the Internet will soon be counted, labeled and numbered! lol For trying to get away from the system of total control of the perpetrator, they will force themselves to mark their foreheads with green lol - just in case! !!! lol
  11. Benjamin Gnomes
    Benjamin Gnomes April 19 2018 17: 35
    +1
    Oh yes)) let's do the same)) I lost the phone, you won’t even get into the Internet)
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2018 18: 28
      0
      Quote: Benjamin Gnomes
      I’ve lost my phone, you won’t even get into the Internet)

      actually today it's not a problem if the phone is registered with you
  12. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz April 19 2018 19: 07
    +3
    "Padzelku zerlennaya from Poland" is not "banned."
    But he is afraid of answering vital and just questions of citizens. That escalates the situation. There is no confidence in the authorities, but now there will be no more of it ...
    1. Fitter
      Fitter April 19 2018 20: 25
      +1
      So with any power.
      But this one, nevertheless, is better than the whores and litsvins.
  13. Curious
    Curious April 19 2018 19: 19
    +2
    This issue will not solve. It is necessary to use the Internet to issue a permit, as a weapon. So that a person undergoes a medical examination, presents the characteristics of work and place of residence, tax, police, state security agencies, a certificate that there is no debt for alimony. A special commission will consider and in the case of a positive decision will issue a personal admission with a personal password. And that’s all. Entered the network - you can immediately see who and where. And then SMS ...
    1. viralig
      viralig April 19 2018 19: 22
      +3
      so everything goes to this
    2. Mikado
      Mikado April 19 2018 21: 28
      +3
      Viktor Nikolaevich, here you are joking, but I have long been convinced of this .... sadly, but true. request
  14. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 20 2018 05: 44
    +1
    will be identified via SMS


    for special services, the identification problem does not exist and occurs in a couple of mouse clicks.
    Anonymity on the network is primarily a barrier to protecting users from the legal collection of information on them by any people and any organizations.