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The Syrian "Wasp" participated in the hunt for "Tomahawks"

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In a reflection of the recent NATO missile attack on Syria, the 9K33 Osa anti-aircraft complex was activated, reports Messenger of Mordovia.




These systems rarely fall into the lenses of cameras, they were actively attracted to the teachings of the Syrian army on the eve of the conflict that broke out in the country.

“At present, as a rule, we are talking about installations that hit the militants in the form of trophies. Armed with them, the terrorists tried to shoot down planes and helicopters of government forces, ”writes publication author Lev Romanov.

As part of the Syrian army, they were not visible for a long time. It was even supposed that all the air defense systems were out of order. However, participation in repelling a missile attack by the United States and its allies The Wasps demonstrated that they could still benefit.

So, according to the Russian military, of the 11 missiles launched by this complex, 5 hit targets. For a system that is considered obsolete, this is quite a decent result.

As the newspaper notes, the result could be much better if the complexes were upgraded. For example, thermal imagers with target tracking machines would significantly improve performance.

Currently, "various options have been developed to improve the performance of these complexes, and it is possible that over time, the Syrians will upgrade some of the remaining machines," the author concludes.
Photos used:
Encyclopedia of Syrian military
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  1. bazzbazz
    bazzbazz April 19 2018 13: 54
    +10
    Old but not worthless!
    Here it is the weapon of the USSR!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 19 2018 13: 58
      +2
      I heard that our “Shells” didn’t show themselves badly. Almost 100% target defeat! I will not argue ...
      "Wasp" also worked well, but not a hundred..C-200 can also draw stars for themselves!
      In short, they fought off normally!
      Just 100 winged on such a small country .. hehe According to the idea, it should not be anymore!
      Oh gentlemen, you too PR yourself .. wink
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m April 19 2018 14: 30
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Just 100 winged on such a small country .. hehe According to the idea, it should not be anymore!

        Not enough for a country, even for such a small one. 185,2 thousand km², only half of Germany. But for two sheds the most. And they are already gone.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 19 2018 19: 28
          +1
          Quote: Michael m
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Just 100 winged on such a small country .. hehe According to the idea, it should not be anymore!

          Not enough for a country, even for such a small one. 185,2 thousand km², only half of Germany. But for two sheds the most. And they are already gone.

          And in all of Russia, how much is needed ..? he he

          Well for Russia mtushku guys .. drinks
      2. Scoun
        Scoun April 19 2018 14: 55
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        S-200 can also draw stars for themselves!

        No, for the time being, if we are talking about rockets, but if we are talking about fki, then perhaps we have already drawn it.

        In total, according to the Ministry of Defense, 112 anti-aircraft guided missiles were used up in repelling the strike. Of them:

        "Carapace" - 25 were released, 23 targets were hit.

        "Buk" - released 29, hit 24 targets.

        "Wasp" - released 11, hit 5 targets.

        S-125 - released 13, hit 5 targets.

        "Arrow-10" - released 5, hit 3 targets.

        "Square" - released 21, hit 11 targets.

        S-200 - 8 missiles were fired, the targets were not hit.

        - The S-200 is designed primarily to destroy aerodynamic rocket carriers - that is, aircraft
      3. venik
        venik April 19 2018 17: 41
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I heard that our “Shells” didn’t show themselves badly. Almost 100% target defeat! I will not argue ...

        =========
        According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
        Syrian air defense used 112 anti-aircraft missiles, including from the complex, to repulse the strike of the USA, France and Great Britain
        - "Shell" - 25 missiles. They hit 23 targets. (0.92)
        - "Buk" - released 29, hit 24 targets. (0.82)
        - "Wasp" - released 11, hit 5 targets. (0.45)
        - S-125 - released 13, hit 5 targets. (0.38)
        - "Arrow-10" - released 5, hit 3 targets. (0.60)
        - “Square” - released 21, hit 11 targets. (0.52)
        - S-200 - 8 missiles were fired, the targets were not hit. (0)
        Source: https://topwar.ru/139969-mo-rf-ssha-lukavyat-aero
        dromy-tozhe-vhodili-v-chislo-celey-dlya-kr.html
        As for the S-200 - these complexes are by no means adapted to intercept low-flying, highly maneuverable targets - they are "sharpened" to intercept high-speed high-speed targets with a "decent" EPR. Perhaps they were used for "warning" fire on the British "Tornado" ??? According to the principle - "knock down - do not knock down", but in any case - "shuganut"? ...
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 19 2018 13: 59
      +1
      Belarus is modernizing and selling them. So you should not write them off. With a new
      The filling will come to life and such an old complex. Like the old man Viagra))
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 19 2018 13: 59
      0
      Quote: bazzbazz
      Old but not worthless!

      The main disadvantage of Wasp is its long reaction time.
      1. sivuch
        sivuch April 19 2018 21: 36
        +1
        This is if the BM is alone in the open field, without the command center and the direction of the raid is unknown, i.e. the most difficult conditions. It is assumed that for sure detection you need 2 scans. 1 revolution -2 sec, 3 revolutions for scanning in 3 rays sequentially - already 6 seconds, the second time - all 12 seconds.
        Turning the APU (again, the worst case) to 180 degrees - another 6-8 seconds. If there is a command center from a platoon of reconnaissance and control regiment and BM work on a battery, then life is much easier.
    4. NIKNN
      NIKNN April 19 2018 14: 06
      +4
      Quote: bazzbazz
      Here it is the weapon of the USSR!

      if the complexes went through modernization. For example, thermal imagers with automatic tracking devices would significantly improve performance.
      What do you mean would pass? Russia was rebuilding the Syrian air defense system ... Modernization in this region is somewhat different from conventional factory modernization (an example of Syrian armored vehicles). I believe that it was quite possible to carry out a partial modernization (without adhering to flow charts) or a partial improvement, well, by installing optical systems in Syria ..., temporarily, then we’ll install the mod. kits, technology documentation and will be cooler. If they’re trying to modernize the T-55, I think the Wasp will have a modernization potential for more.
    5. Shrpv
      Shrpv April 19 2018 14: 30
      +6
      We learn the truth about the work of air defense in Syria only by contracts. If you line up for Shells, Beeches and Torahs, then this is the best confirmation of events. Customers will be shown evidence of objective control.
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 April 19 2018 14: 41
        +4
        Quote: Shrpv
        If you line up for Shells, Beeches and Torahs, then this is the best confirmation of events.

        Not lined up. You see free buyers of air defense systems. The mongrels are not allowed anything by A. Merzoty. But there are no independents or there are Papuans who do not need air defense. Turkey is a good example.
  2. Vard
    Vard April 19 2018 13: 56
    0
    In axes, the most ... with all their perfection, it is essentially an ideal target ... they fly without reacting to an attack along a predictable trajectory ...
    1. venik
      venik April 19 2018 18: 27
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      In axes, the most ... with all their perfection, it is essentially an ideal target ... they fly without reacting to an attack along a predictable trajectory ...

      =========
      And here you are, dear deep are mistaken! In the sense of a “predictable” trajectory. "Tomahawks" (by the way - this is NOT AX, but more on that later) - they fly according to the established program, and, entering the enemy’s air defense zone, they can start to rush about ("like a flea in pants"!) .....
      Now, why it is wrong to call them “axes” - this is a Hollywood pattern: the American Indians did not know metal and did not know how to process metal ... Until the Europeans arrived (first the Spaniards, and then the Anglo-Saxons, French, etc.) they there were 2 types of tomahawks - "household" (or - working) stone hatchets and "fighting" - which had a "spike-like" tip made of stone (obsidian) or even solid wood (instead of a blade) (!!). They were not used as a throwing weapon, but exclusively for "close combat" (they simply didn’t have armor and armor and they fought - naked!) .....
      Well, metal hatchets - they appeared much later - European merchants sold .....
  3. populist
    populist April 19 2018 14: 01
    0
    and it is possible that over time the Syrians will modernize part of the remaining machines, ”the author concludes.

    There is no time. Now we need to modernize in air defense everything that can still be modernized. And in missile defense, of course.
  4. Ushly_bashkort
    Ushly_bashkort April 19 2018 14: 20
    +1
    To the news:
    Syrian air defense actions could lead to injuries to the country's civilian population, said General Kenneth Mackenzie, representative of the Committee of the Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, at a special briefing for journalists in the Pentagon on April 14, TASS reports.

    Mackenzie said that the United States struck three goals and “hurt them”: “We have chosen the goals carefully to minimize the threat to civilians. We are completing the assessment of the damage inflicted, however, the initial data indicate that we completed military tasks without significant material hindrance from Syria. ”

    He emphasized that the Syrian air defense response was ineffective and most likely posed a danger to civilians.

    Recall, according to the Ministry of Defense of Russia, of the 103 missiles launched by the coalition, the Syrian missile defense destroyed 71.
    https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/9a25f8e3?utm_refer
    rer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com

    The strikes of the Americans do not harm the civilian population, the inhabitants of Raqqa confirm, yeah. Hutspa as she is.
  5. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 19 2018 14: 22
    0
    Here you have the old man ...
    What I like Soviet military equipment, they have very great opportunities for modernization.
  6. rruvim
    rruvim April 19 2018 14: 28
    +1
    I do not understand how the Wasp can bring down a low-flying target. Not so much in height, it’s just that the SNR cannot follow the target with low ESR. Although the Yugi claimed that the "wasp" intercepted the "axes".
    1. sivuch
      sivuch April 19 2018 21: 24
      +1
      Yes there is such a toggle switch - RCC (defeat of cruise missiles), implemented on 9M33M3. On the Internet lies the textbook of the Military Publishing House on Osa-AKM, you can download it. And on the Syrian Osa some more IR feature was added. But the fact that the southerners generally had Wasps 0 was a pleasant surprise for me.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim April 19 2018 21: 39
        +1
        But in Syria there is no Os-AKM. These are, after all, 9M33M3 missiles. And even there is no RCC toggle switch. It simply does not exist in principle, this cannot be so. If someone shows me the PKR toggle switch, I will send a bottle of Armenian Cognac. The targeting of the CHP there is a different principle. You need two competent fighters and a little luck. But for example, the OCA was perfectly shot at the Georgian corvette or boat, sinking it. But it was a surface target.
        1. sivuch
          sivuch April 19 2018 21: 51
          +2
          That in Syria there is no AKM, I completely admit, although they once wrote that after trying 82 years old they sent fifty of these products. But they could easily have mixed them up. 265. Shooting small-sized manned remotely controlled aircraft.
          In particular, it says-RCC mode (MC) is turned on after determining the type of target.
          Armenian brandy, of course, would not hurt
          1. rruvim
            rruvim April 19 2018 22: 02
            +1
            No need for Bekaa and the 82nd. You allegedly defeated the entire air defense of Syria. I gnawed a lot of documents, sitting in my station, in order to understand what it was. In "OSE" I was personally, and by heart I know the toggle switches and the launches of different modes. In modifications to AKM for sure, nothing was sharpened under the CR. Neither a toggle switch, nor a protocol of behavior. I didn’t shoot from the OSA, I’m REBovets, but I know for sure that even the AKM is not imprisoned for low-flying targets.
  7. SETTGF
    SETTGF April 19 2018 14: 40
    +2
    The biggest flaw of the Wasp! This is the minimum height of intercepted targets - from 15m to 50m, depending on the modification of the Wasp! And she has problems with detecting inconspicuous low-flying targets (cruise missiles include here) - and this is a transceiver path, including an AFU - an antenna-feeder device ...
    1. rruvim
      rruvim April 19 2018 22: 39
      0
      Well, just like that ...
    2. rruvim
      rruvim April 19 2018 22: 47
      0
      In Angola, "Wasps" behaved "inappropriately." The divisions with them simply could not consider the South African F-ki. Mi-26th fell to the eyeballs with the wounded when the Wasps were under the belly, but they could not repel the South African aircraft. Then they shot down another helicopter.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim April 19 2018 22: 53
        0
        Killed nearly 8 advisers and a huge bunch of wounded Angolans and Cuban volunteers. OCA air defense division captain Melnichenko shot himself ...
  8. Bronevick
    Bronevick April 19 2018 15: 11
    +2
    I can’t even imagine the state of the Wasp operators. On the optical channel, catch a tomahawk on a black and white tube screen the size of a tablet. Corvalol must have been pouring. Real eagles.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim April 19 2018 21: 43
      +1
      And at night ... At the same time ... bully
  9. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 April 19 2018 19: 48
    0
    "wasp" is an insect predator and bites painfully
  10. alex_V15
    alex_V15 April 19 2018 22: 20
    0
    The complex is against low-flying targets, such as helicopters, for example. Or - attack aircraft!
    The very fact that the Wasp dealt with cruise missiles - wow!

    Especially when you consider that the complex is old and not designed to deal with goals with low EPR!
    However! Could capture and bring down!

    By the way! In Yugoslavia, Wasps also shot down the Tomahawks! Moreover, well, they are not intended against them at all!
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