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And in fact? APU took 29 place in the ranking of the best armies in the world

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Ukraine took the 29-place in the ranking of the best armies of the world according to Global Firepower. According to "Ukrainian Truth", the rating is published on the company's website. Rating Global Firepower Index (GFP) is considered one of the most famous and reputable in the world. The purpose of the GFP database is to collect information about the armed forces of the world, its analysis and summing up.


And in fact? APU took 29 place in the ranking of the best armies in the world


This year Ukraine is located between Greece and the Czech Republic. The rating notes that the Ukrainian combat-ready army is more than 1 million 200 thousand military, of which a million are reservists. The country has more than two thousand tanks, almost 12 thousand armored combat vehicles, 1300 artillery units and almost 40 fighters.

Analytical company Global Firepower creates its index based on 55 indicators. Among them - the population and the army, the scale of weapons, gross domestic product, as well as features of geographical location, such as access to the sea. Rating does not depend on the total weapons, and from a variety of weapons in quantities that provide the best balance of available weapons. For example, the strategic and tactical value of having 100 minesweepers in one army is not equal to having 10 aircraft carriers in another. This year, 136 countries are ranked.

The nuclear arsenal was not taken into account, but the countries that have it received bonus points. Countries with large populations received top ratings due to the availability of personnel to support both war and industry.

NATO countries also received bonuses due to the theoretical allocation of resources if one of the participants takes part in the war.

The strongest army in the world is American. Russia is located on the second line, and China on the third. Global Firepower estimates these three armies as equivalent. India and France have also lost their positions, ranking fourth and fifth respectively. Raised in strength their armies Britain and South Korea. The top ten were Japan, Germany and Turkey, but their armies were given fewer points than in 2017. Bhutan ranks last among 136 lines
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  1. Borik
    Borik April 18 2018 18: 22
    +4
    And who believes in this rating. Ukrainians 29-e in the world.

    The country has more than two thousand tanks, almost 12 thousand armored fighting vehicles, 1300 artillery units and almost 40 fighters ?????

    Announce the complete list.
    1. Equalized
      Equalized April 18 2018 18: 25
      +4
      700 tanks in all parts (Ombre / OTR) by state and number, 80 Mig-29 fighters (9-11 / 9-13) and Su-27 (P / UB).

      We also consider tanks from educational institutions (Desna training center) and others.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 April 18 2018 19: 16
        +6
        Quote: Equalized
        We also consider tanks from educational institutions (Desna training center) and others.

        And which on the pedestals also count ...
      2. Gato
        Gato April 18 2018 20: 39
        +9
        With a trunks resource of 3.5 shots, 30 min of motor resources and pilots with a 24-hour raid on Il-2 simulators?
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN April 18 2018 18: 29
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      And who believes in this rating. Ukrainians 29-e in the world.
      The country has more than two thousand tanks, almost 12 thousand armored fighting vehicles, 1300 artillery units and almost 40 fighters ?????

      Quote: Equalized
      At present, the Ukrainian Air Force possess about 80 fighters of two types (Su-27 / Mig-29) in UB and single variants. And the "Attack aircraft", that is, the Su-25 and Su-24M, are only 29 and 12 units, respectively.

      And the data from where? I understand that they are provided by the state? Well, Petya and his comrades laughed, could argue for the prize places ...
      1. Equalized
        Equalized April 18 2018 18: 31
        +11
        Data is collected by spotters :)
        Recently, the Ukrainian Air Force personnel have been strictly warned to cover up their L / A side numbers before releasing photos on pages on social networks (for example, from exercises), but all that they lit up once will never disappear from the Internet. I know almost every airplane and its history individually :)

        You can see the full statistics here, tyts:

        http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/5887-poteri-i-
        boevoi-sostav-vvs-ukrainy-53 /
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 18 2018 18: 34
          0
          Quote: Equalized
          You can see the full statistics here, tyts:
          http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/5887-poteri-i-
          boevoi-sostav-vvs-ukrainy-53 /

          Thank you! hi
          1. Equalized
            Equalized April 18 2018 18: 36
            +4
            You're welcome.
            The first page contains (almost) up-to-date information with the board numbers of aircraft / helicopters and their statuses. Plus loss statistics.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 April 18 2018 20: 37
              +1
              Zdrada or peremoga if in 2016, Ukraine was in 25th place on this list?
        2. Sam_gosling
          Sam_gosling April 18 2018 20: 05
          +1
          Homogogues, are you this? Where are the new reviews?
          1. Sam_gosling
            Sam_gosling April 18 2018 20: 27
            +1
            No seriously, I would love to read. In my opinion, you are one of the few left who is responsible for looking at things and writing about it. All the other Russian-speakers went on the background of cheers and patriotism and throws from left-wing publications and from both sides. English speaking
            they also operate on facts that are too dry and limited. I look forward to your new statues.
      2. Opera
        Opera April 18 2018 18: 35
        +1
        Complete lies! Azerbaijanis with Armenians today have proved to everyone that they share an honorable second place after Ukraine, of course! Very close are Georgians and Belarusians! Not a rating, but pro-Russian propaganda! Or hackers, as always Great Russian ...
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 18 2018 20: 01
          +4
          Quote: Oper
          Complete lies! Azerbaijanis with Armenians today have proved to everyone that they share an honorable second place after Ukraine, of course! Very close are Georgians and Belarusians! Not a rating, but pro-Russian propaganda! Or hackers, as always Great Russian ...

          Of course the invincible Russian hackers
          1. Barabashka 68
            Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 09: 22
            +1
            Shaggy, stubby aside, we all saw how the "valiant APU" escaped from the miners with shouts - "Russians are coming." We got your pathetic attempts. (((
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok April 19 2018 17: 11
              0
              Quote: Barabashka 68
              escaped from the miners

              What a pancake "miners". Have you collapsed from an oak tree or have RTR seen enough? "North wind" - is this concept familiar?
    3. Kars
      Kars April 18 2018 18: 36
      +2
      The 2014 was on the 21 place. The only thing that goes on in the news is that the APU has risen to the top 30.
      1. Gato
        Gato April 18 2018 20: 34
        +2
        30 of the best - it sounds! Announce pzhlst 30 worst. Some say the worst of the best lol
    4. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian April 18 2018 18: 48
      +2
      you never know what on the storage bases at ukrov))) counted t54-55 and are happy, old armored personnel carriers ... bmp there are the first shaggy years ... but what of this can move? ....
    5. siberalt
      siberalt April 18 2018 18: 54
      +3
      If the Armed Forces of Ukraine cope with the miners of the Donbass, they will immediately take first place in the world! laughing
      1. Gato
        Gato April 18 2018 19: 54
        +9
        Miners of Donbass - this is such a combat unit, a collision with which immediately removes all bonuses from courage, strength and dramatically increases the severity of combat bloomers.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo April 18 2018 20: 02
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        If the Armed Forces of Ukraine cope with the miners of the Donbass, they will immediately take first place in the world! laughing

        The second, the second only after the Macington monkeys.
        1. Opera
          Opera April 18 2018 20: 18
          +3
          No! No and no! Americans do not hold out. Too straightforward! Ukrainians outplay them with unconventional military-strategic decisions! Today, Ukrainian sailors who escaped from Crimea at one time told Poroshenko that if they did not receive the apartments promised for patriotism, they would immediately return to Crimea ... Everything is in shock! How come back ?! What a cunning plan?!?! Who called them to the Crimea?!?! Who needs them there ?! Well, yes, okay, Avakov generally promised to build a garden city in the Donbass !!! Yes, do not believe me ?! The separatists will admire and surrender themselves! And line up for Ukrainian passports !!! No, Americans do not reach! Persia Ukraine! Following, as I told you, Azerbaijanis and Armenians! At least those who here today advocated the throat for primacy will gnaw anyone! And together and together! The Belarusians will equip them with the best weapons in the world and supply Egyptian potatoes and Polish apples from strategic stocks! And let's just look modestly at this whole championship. For a while ...
          1. Baloo
            Baloo April 18 2018 21: 05
            +3
            Quote: Oper
            Americans do not hold out.

            In how, so I lagged behind life. As a familiar hedgehog once said, getting down from a shoe brush: appearance can be deceiving. The Americans seemed so cool to me, but it smelled like ... belay
    6. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa April 18 2018 19: 39
      0
      That doesn’t matter even the number. There everything is killed.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 18 2018 20: 14
        +2
        How much they paid, they got such a place.
    7. Gato
      Gato April 18 2018 20: 42
      +1
      Announce the complete list.

      No no no. Only garnishly watered. Joint Choir of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    8. papas-57
      papas-57 April 19 2018 08: 53
      +1
      `` and nearly 40 fighters. '' Almost 40 - how many, 39.3 or 40.2 fighter jets? Or maybe 36.8? The number is small, it’s not difficult to count, you can express yourself more precisely.
    9. Normal ok
      Normal ok April 19 2018 17: 07
      0
      Quote: Borik
      And who believes in this rating. Ukrainians 29-e in the world.

      What is the question? You can argue. Do not refer to VO chur.
  2. Shrpv
    Shrpv April 18 2018 18: 24
    +2
    They lie. Bhutan is stronger.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont April 18 2018 18: 30
      +1
      the border army had to be compared in the nomination "herds"
    2. Shrpv
      Shrpv April 18 2018 18: 44
      +2
      According to the number consider mob. resource. But they do not take into account that draftees mostly hide from the draft.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo April 18 2018 20: 02
      +2
      Quote: Shrpv
      They lie. Bhutan is stronger.

      And what place is Gabon, I just asked, but we are arguing about, arguing ... wink
      1. Shrpv
        Shrpv April 18 2018 20: 05
        +4
        Gabonians will soon serve as instructors of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  3. Equalized
    Equalized April 18 2018 18: 24
    +4
    But in fact, these ratings are complete nonsense and do not reflect reality. They are compiled by sofa analysts according to Military Balance, etc. I remind everyone that the APU has consistently occupied 20-21 places until the 2014 year, why? Because according to the military balance, they counted thousands of tanks, hundreds of aircraft and missiles. In fact, they showed poor combat readiness in the 2014 year and rolled down to the 30 place. That is, most armies in the ranking actually almost never seriously fought and no one knows how they will show themselves in reality, as it was with the Armed Forces. By the way, I am a person counting the air force of Ukraine and I can say that in this rating, slightly less than completely incorrect numbers are indicated.

    For example

    "Fighter aircraft - 39"
    "Attack aircraft - 64"

    What nonsense is this?
    At the moment, the Ukrainian Air Force possess about 80 fighters of two types (Su-27 / Mig-29) in UB and single variants. And the "Attack aircraft", that is, the Su-25 and Su-24M total 29 and 12 units, respectively. (Around 25 considering Su-24MR scouts)

    This refers to flying machines and not machines with storage in mind.
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 18 2018 18: 26
    +1
    They are lying, they are brazenly lying. In the 404s, the army cannot be the 29th.
  5. Terenin
    Terenin April 18 2018 18: 27
    +7
    And in fact? APU took 29 place in the ranking of the best armies in the world. I remember in Soviet times about the "red Latvian arrows" and their professionalism and heroism of the legend went (quote: unsurpassed fighters who defeated all enemies in a row). fellow A closer look ... what nothing special...
  6. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 18 2018 18: 28
    +1
    probably such a high place only due to the registration of the Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR as well, because the compilers probably also consider them to be Sumerian ...
  7. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 18 2018 18: 29
    +2
    29th place is among the best armies in the world. And among the best armies of the Universe - the first. And this is without taking into account the starships and fifty other wunderwaffles
  8. Avis-bis
    Avis-bis April 18 2018 18: 31
    +3
    Near the Czech Republic ?! Seriously???
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 18 2018 18: 32
    0
    But the Ukrainian fleet is worth it! lol At least a dozen nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, however, are all in eternal use by the United States! lol laughing
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 April 18 2018 18: 34
    +2
    Here it is the power of the Kharkov Armored Repair Plant

    1. Equalized
      Equalized April 18 2018 18: 35
      +5
      This technique has not been there for a long time. All that could be raked out to restore and replenish the losses of full-time mechanized / tank brigades + for the creation of military and technical personnel in newly created brigades.

      Maybe percent 10 left. Recently, someone was counting from satellite imagery, the sites were noisily empty.
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 April 18 2018 20: 30
        0
        Quote: Equalized
        All that could be raked out to restore and replenish the losses of full-time mechanized / tank brigades + for the creation of military and technical personnel in newly created brigades.

        Most likely, some part after the restoration and modernization went for export. Apparently, Ukraine continues to trade in Soviet reserves, which are not being replenished with anything.
  11. K-50
    K-50 April 18 2018 18: 36
    +2
    Ukraine has more than two thousand tanks, almost 12 thousand armored fighting vehicles, 1300 artillery units and almost 40 fighters.

    And how many "workable"? lol
    Although, on the other hand, it would be better if they were all broken.
    LDNR residents have a calmer sleep, and they will do less harm.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 18 2018 18: 48
      +6
      And how many "workable"?

      Greetings, Alex hi In fact, any country with a military conflict raises its military level. And in Ukraine, the main cash flow from abroad goes to the "military deterrence of the aggressor" ie their army is at the forefront of Russia's opposition and they will not refuse this tidbit, otherwise the West will "block the oxygen" to them and they will never invest money just like that.
      1. Russia
        Russia April 18 2018 19: 05
        +3
        Hello Gene hi Only it’s bad in this situation, it is natural for Ukraine that the army is marking time, while having dubious motivation and perspective. The fact that overseas instructors are trained is a drop in the bucket.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 19 2018 07: 01
          +5
          Quote: Rusland
          The fact that overseas instructors are trained is a drop in the bucket.

          The main force of the Ukrainian army is the political cover of the United States.

          Good morning, Vitaliy and Orionvit hi Well, if that's the case, but I reason from the point of view of calculating the risks. The neighbor then acts as a bully "at hand", and from impunity he is becoming more impudent.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 18 2018 22: 25
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        In fact, any country with a military conflict raises its military level.

        This is only in case of any victories and successes. If you stagnate for four years, stupidly shell cities, regularly fall into boilers and consider the capture of 100 meters of the “gray zone” “overwhelming,” then the army will be degraded. In addition, talking about the "stunning victories" over the Russian army, no one really takes it seriously, on the contrary, everyone just neighs. The main force of the Ukrainian army is the political cover of the United States. So what is written right here
        having dubious motivation and perspective.
  12. kefan
    kefan April 18 2018 18: 37
    0
    Probably the 29th place in the world is from the end though.
  13. bk316
    bk316 April 18 2018 18: 46
    +6
    I looked at the rating, something I have doubts
    Armenia at 84 - Azerbaijan at 53, well, Jews are clearly underestimated.
    In short, if you add 3 bulbs and 5 oranges, you get 8 ... lampansins
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 18 2018 18: 58
      0
      Quote: bk316
      Armenia at 84 - Azerbaijan at 53

      and what should the Armenians be higher?
      there are a lot of factors, natural resources and access to them, logistics and transport, the number of airfields, population, weapons, etc. For all these indicators, Azerbaijan is ahead in the South Caucasus.
      Georgia is 2 positions higher. And I think because of access to the sea and access to natural resources. And in terms of armaments they are inferior to the Armenians.
      In general, the rating looks objective for the South Caucasus and for the first ten for sure.
      1. bk316
        bk316 April 19 2018 00: 24
        +3
        and what should the Armenians be higher?

        probably shouldn't, but a gap of 30 positions between 404 and the Russian Federation is unlikely.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 20 2018 01: 32
          0
          Quote: bk316
          probably shouldn't, but a gap of 30 positions

          more like a topic. Demography is low, migration is high. In Azerbaijan, on the contrary.
          The infrastructure is much better. BTK has been launched. North-South is under construction. Azerbaijan’s domestic roads are one of the best in the CIS. Almost all modern airports. The airport is one of the most modern in the CIS. Azerbaijan only has Dreamers. All aircraft are young.
          There is no need to talk about natural resources.
          About goods from the outside world is easy. Above the infrastructure are listed, plus Azerbaijan’s largest non-military fleet in the Caspian. Allies are nearby and Azerbaijan has access to them.
          the Armenians have all this at a minimum. Help from the Russian Federation through Georgia, where the Lars border crossing is often under a blockage of snow. There is no railway connection. The border is closed on both sides. The main Ally must deliver goods through Iran to deliver goods. And this is a small border with Iran from the Iranian side is populated by Azerbaijanis, who will create problems with the delivery of land in a military situation.
          Military industrial complex from scratch created many factories for the production of cartridges and various ammunition for tanks and artillery have been built and are being built.
          The budget for 2018 at a price of 45 has been built. And oil in 2018 ala 65-72 is spinning. And Azerbaijani oil is usually more expensive by a dollar 2. That is, additional finances are available. The budget deficit is already covered.
          Therefore, given all this and additional factors, this difference is not surprising.
          By the way, last time Armenia improved its position. The presence of Iskanders also saw additional loans from the Russian Federation.
          In 2018, the situation with Polonaise and the air defense system from Israel will be clarified, plus the opening of new military factories will raise the position of Azerbaijan.
    2. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 18 2018 19: 09
      +2
      What North Korea?
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General April 18 2018 19: 27
        +6
        Exactly in the top ten, because even America zabzdela contact the DPRK))
        1. Tevdori
          Tevdori April 18 2018 19: 47
          +1
          All the same, “catching up fear” should also be taken into account in the calculation, and then North Korea would be a position higher than the United States wassat
  14. Boyar
    Boyar April 18 2018 19: 50
    +1
    Waltzman was upset, and invited the squirrel.
  15. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 18 2018 19: 53
    +3
    The fact that there they calculated from the armor is old rubbish, which is listed on the balance sheet, but no more. Already tracked into the asphalt long ago.
    Yes, and the mobilization reserve is greatly exaggerated, reservists like cockroaches from a sneaker will scatter at the slightest out.
  16. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 18 2018 20: 07
    0
    Army DNI, LC in what place?
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 18 2018 20: 11
      +2
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Army DNI, LC in what place?

      Ukraine is at first, because there is not enough aviation and fleet, again, air defense must be developed, radio-chemical protection. When everything will be, of course in the first three.
      1. den3080
        den3080 April 18 2018 20: 26
        +1
        in the first two !! right after the americans
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 18 2018 21: 07
          +1
          Quote: den3080
          in the first two !! right after the americans

          Then, through Kiev, immediately to the phishington drinks
  17. Machete
    Machete April 18 2018 21: 30
    +1
    If this drunk takes the 29th place, then what about the rest?
  18. nikoliski
    nikoliski April 18 2018 22: 00
    -1
    Well, if the rating excluding nuclear weapons, then China is clearly stronger than us, I can’t imagine how we can kill a billion 400 million with a simple weapon (if we count to a billion, then we need a hundred years) well, France was clearly raised, they are weak enough without nuclear weapons, the army is less 200 people, for example, South Korea has a regular army several times larger, plus prepared reserves, plus their K000 black panther tank (which by the way few people know) is considered the second largest in the world after Armata! All because the best world automatic loader (not matching our wedges when the roll of the tank on the T2) at our T72 rate of 72-6 rounds of mines in the black panther 8! Karl fired every 15 seconds, and a licensed German gun, like on leopard 4 with the best NATO BPS (up to 2 mm penetration) our BPS on t800 more than 72mm do not penetrate, otherwise we need to change the gun for new shells (we still have a problem BPS do not fit into the loading carousel, and the short one does not penetrate more than its length) in addition, the Black Panther is capable of firing improved Israeli missiles (which fly from above like Javelin) and the Koreans copied the KAZ arena and installed it on their tank, that is, our T550s all go with curtains ( which will have no effect on unguided munitions, such as RPG grenades), and the Koreans made a real imba at our developments (Americans are only going to buy KAZ traffic from Jews on Abrams, and other countries don’t have adequate active protection systems on serial machines). .. So I think South Korea with all its advanced developments (and purchases) will give odds to the French army, what is the use of the Ukrainian army that they have 90 tanks? If they are do they rust and there are no crews for them? these tanks only a likely enemy can capture and fight them against Ukraine itself, the fleet as such is absent (the Americans donated 2000 inflatable boats, the only sane ship for repair) the aircraft are all old - for 6 years old aircraft, they are more likely to be a danger to the Ukrainians themselves than for the enemy, I think the fighting efficiency of the Ukrainian army in the event of a real war is close to zero, this is greatly facilitated by the disunity of society, for example, if Poland and Hungary want to take their land, I think many Ukrainians in the Lviv region will go to the militia for the Poles, so that we don’t get washed weight)
    1. Civilian
      Civilian April 19 2018 00: 21
      0
      Quote: nikoliski
      I think the combat readiness of the Ukrainian army in the event of a real war is close to zero,

      What do they really have such a complete "pepelats"?
      It’s just that I still consider APU to be part of the SA. I’m probably mistaken. request
      1. nikoliski
        nikoliski April 19 2018 00: 58
        0
        Yes, it’s exactly, as if part of the SA, which has not been like 30 years already, and they all have weapons too, and at that time other countries-South Korea, for example, made a grand leap forward, if you calm down and get up forgetting about development, then after 30 years you are eaten by neighbors (as in computer strategies, when you are lazy and do not waste resources on moving to another era) you can write a lot of water about weapons obsolescence, I can just bring a specific fact, take the MiG-29 fighters armed with Ukraine (we have new radars they put it there with the FAS “Beetle”, modernizing at least somehow) so these fighters with old Doppler radars don’t see the target if its speed is below 180 km h, that is, in fact, an American F-35 variant that can freeze (marine, the most expensive version of the car ) when hovering when the speed is about zero, it is absolutely invisible for the outdated Doppler radars Mig-29 and Su-27, so the American can shoot them like in a sun-drenched blind area with a wand, which He doesn’t see anything and pokes from corner to corner, trying to understand where the stones are being thrown at. Despite the howl about what kind of f35 is bad and too expensive and ineffective against the s-400, this aircraft was created specifically against countries without s-400 and modern 5th generation fighter, against all sorts of Angola, Livy and others it’s an IMBA that is able to gain superiority in the air, by the way, if you take the latest modification of Abrams, then he is also a natural monster against Ukrainian T64 - the frontal armor of Abrams doesn’t make headway into Ukrainian foreheads even from close range (it’s not without reason that some experts classify Abrams not as a clean tank, but rather as a tank destroyer intended for this narrow specialization) Ukraine today is in a serious crisis and it’s stupid to think that it can get out of it, it has nothing, no money, no resources, not a modern scientific and industrial base, but you can’t go far on Soviet developments, even smaller Poland is now stronger than Ukraine and...
        1. Civilian
          Civilian April 19 2018 01: 11
          0
          Quote: nikoliski
          Yes, exactly, as if part of the SA,

          Thank you.
  19. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky April 18 2018 22: 02
    +4
    At the same time, it is necessary to take into account total corruption, an absolute lack of motivation and wild, unbridled drunkenness. Here is the whole rating.
    1. Civilian
      Civilian April 19 2018 01: 18
      0
      Quote: Panikovsky
      At the same time, it is necessary to take into account total corruption, an absolute lack of motivation and wild, unbridled drunkenness. Here is the whole rating.

      About motivation, I would not be so sure. Many Ukrainian citizens did not like the Crimean referendum.
      1. nikoliski
        nikoliski April 19 2018 01: 28
        0
        Many didn’t like it, only when the agenda comes, why does someone who go to Poland and who go to the “damned Muscovites” come out too cunning to shout how much they hate Raska, but few people hurry to fight in the Donbass
  20. Civilian
    Civilian April 19 2018 00: 11
    0
    Some nonsense, not a rating.
    7-South Korea
    8- Japan
    15- Indonesia
    18-DPRK
    27- Thailand
    What APU "do not kill" Thailand, or if that Indonesia.? What about the Germans? 10th. Yes, if "one on one", it seems to me that the APU just go over the Bundeswehr. It’s even a shame for the former “ours”.
    R.S. If anything - I'm civilian "in the house" winked
    1. nikoliski
      nikoliski April 19 2018 01: 10
      0
      Thailand has an aircraft carrier, for example, Ukraine doesn’t have a fleet at all to go to fight there, the Thai population is 2 times more, has its own gas, the army is almost 200 times bigger, are there any more questions? Germans? yes are you joking? they have the strongest economy in the EU - they now hold 000 contract workers in the Bundeswehr (in Ukraine, 200 conscripts are mostly ready to surrender or sell weapons for a bubble when the pipes are burning) in the event of war, 000 million Germany having such financial capabilities , is capable of putting "under arms" up to 82 million people, and about how the Germans are fighting, ask veterans, these are probably the best warriors in Europe, not a couple of the French or Italians, the Germans have problems with aviation, they need to change the fleet of aircraft tank units as in all times at altitude - the best tanks in the EU are produced by them (and sold like hot cakes) Leopard 5 a2 of course they have few, but the a7 option is quite enough to kill the Ukrainian T6 from distances at which they will not even see the Germans (German tanks are equipped thermal imagers, and Ukrainian only with an infrared searchlight the moon is a laugh, just a range of up to 64 meters and the Germans are able to shoot at night aiming with 1300 km, that's what I think who will kill someone) Indonesia do you even know that in this country the population is 3 million people? and an area in several Ukraine? if the Ukrainians miraculously sailed to there, they would have been killed right there, our Su-270 and su-30 were ordered from Indonesia, in addition, a hundred leopards 35a2, Indonesia in 6th place because whoever attacks it will get a huge Vietnam (terrain similar, only Indonesia is much larger)
      1. Civilian
        Civilian April 19 2018 02: 07
        0
        Quote: nikoliski
        Thailand has an aircraft carrier, for example, Ukraine has no fleet at all,

        Thanks one more. smile
        That's just something I was worried. We then look at the background of all this military power in different countries of the world.?
        Our second place is, of course, an “advance” with a hook (or a “knight's move” for a Western reader). Without nuclear weapons, I’m afraid we won’t get too much, not only against the United States, but .... (I’ll say nothing).
        1. nikoliski
          nikoliski April 19 2018 03: 33
          0
          With a nuclear one on the second one, it’s true (the arsenal is enough to get even with any country that has an area of ​​no more than 3 million square kilometers, there’s not enough more warheads reduced by strategic offensive arms, you can calculate conditionally 100kt destroy an area of ​​100 square kilometers, we have 1550 strategic warheads, well, there are also tactical warheads, there are torpedoes, mines are different with a special combat unit, but they still need to be delivered to the target) but if you take them without nuclear weapons, as I already wrote in my very first comment ( re-read, find higher) then China is stronger than us, it is a fact, inexhaustible reserves of manpower (despite the fact that there are almost 200 million more men in China than 200 million unmarried, unclaimed young men, give each machine gun and Genghis Khan will envy such an army, they are distant east with a population of 6 million or Yakutia which is larger than western Europe with a population of 900 will crush itself in a matter of weeks ...
          1. Civilian
            Civilian April 19 2018 10: 12
            +1
            Quote: nikoliski
            China is stronger than us, this is a fact, inexhaustible reserves of manpower (despite the fact that there are almost 200 million more men in China than 200 million unmarried, unclaimed young men, give each machine gun and Genghis Khan will envy such an army, they are the Far East with a population of 6 million or Yakutia, which is larger than western Europe with a population of 900, will crush itself in a matter of weeks ...

            Once I came across an article - "by whistle" in China will get under the arms of 150 million. I thought, well, what kind of Almaty will help here? Stupidly not enough "cartridges". Only "massively", at the expense of "times" at the places of concentration. what
    2. tolmachiev51
      tolmachiev51 April 19 2018 03: 56
      0
      - calculation for long-term military operations, so read what indicators were taken into account.
  21. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub April 19 2018 01: 49
    +1
    The concept of the number of tanks does not include their percentage on the go. What kind of diversity and prosperity of weapons are we talking about if during the anti-terrorist operation the Armed Forces had problems with providing personnel with small arms?
  22. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 19 2018 03: 51
    0
    .... ", gross domestic product," .. - most likely this figure also threw dill to 29th place !!! That is, they will be able to fight for a week, and there is Hitler Kaput.
  23. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 19 2018 05: 48
    0
    Maybe 129th place.
  24. Monetniy
    Monetniy April 19 2018 07: 26
    +1
    A very good result, Ukraine learned to fight for 4 years, people already fired on, with good funding and support and training, they could have taken a higher place.
    1. Barabashka 68
      Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 09: 16
      +1
      French, you wouldn’t sing your songs here. Your dill can become heroes only as part of the RUSSIAN army. and if you do not believe then look at their cries when crawling out of the boilers. They are either lackeys or Russians; there is no third.
      1. Monetniy
        Monetniy April 19 2018 09: 40
        +1
        You wouldn’t sing your Ukrainophobic songs, but you would really face the truth, the guys are fighting no worse than the Russians, and most of them are Russian and Russian-speaking there and to be heroes they don’t have to go to Russia.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 19 2018 09: 56
          +3
          Quote: Monetniy
          You wouldn’t sing your Ukrainophobic songs, but you would really face the truth, the guys are fighting no worse than the Russians, and most of them are Russian and Russian-speaking there and to be heroes they don’t have to go to Russia.

          Who are they fighting for? For Ukraine? For the power of small-town bandits, tsrules, descendants of traitors and executioners of the Ukrainian people.
          Do not confuse hard with sticky and smelly. fool angry
        2. Barabashka 68
          Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 12: 09
          +2
          No, Frenchman, they don’t need to go to bed, just like getting up with cancer, but you need to be people, but you don’t understand this. A Russian soldier is the one who holds a girl in her arms, a little German girl.
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  26. Barabashka 68
    Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 09: 08
    +1
    Yaplyakal, the Americans are not the army - this is a team of sheriffs, they don’t know how to fight from the word - at all. Any more or less ordered system immerses them in a stupor. Well, pirates do not know how to organize their actions.)))
    1. Monetniy
      Monetniy April 19 2018 09: 36
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      Of course, not the army, only the last half century America has been fooling everyone it can, and Russia, including not putting it in, showed us where our place is. Spit in the face and we stand and streamline. If someone else dared to shell the territory of the state where the US has military bases, this country would no longer be there.
      1. Barabashka 68
        Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 12: 41
        +1
        Well, no, Georgievich, she only breezes baboons with slingshots, but on the contrary the real enemy is sintering. There was no such “jewelry” throwing of axes in history, usually they got to weddings with funerals more often. (((That's what a real opponent does with exceptional ones.)))
        There are no real wars in the west, only “skiers” - Landsknechts, capable of fighting only with overwhelming superiority. Hence the desire for all sorts of "Jagdam" and "Stealth"
        So, dear Ilya Georgievich, we bend them and nothing less. I remember how one high German rank, looking at two killed Russian machine gunners, one hot June day, said the warriors accompanying him - "these two are worth more than our entire Wehrmacht"
        "Never fight with the Russians" - these words were spoken in ancient times, though they called us differently then, but they always got the same thing - it hurts.)))
        Sincerely.
  27. thinker
    thinker April 19 2018 09: 26
    0
    Great Britain and South Korea raised their strengths.

    Well, they forgot about Uzbekistan. Third place in the CIS and climbed 9 positions (39th place) in the ranking of world armies.
  28. Barabashka 68
    Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 09: 40
    +1
    ALWAYS AND AT ALL TIMES IN THE WORLD THERE WAS ONLY ONE ARMY ABLE TO MEET ALL REALITIES OF THE MODERN PEACE AND CONTAINING VICTORIES IN THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE CONDITIONS. THERE IS NOT ANY BATTLE LOST BY THE RUSSIAN SOLDIER.
    WE ARE RUSSIAN - WE ARE CHILDREN OF GODS, GOD IS NOT WITH US, WE ARE GODS !!!
    1. Monetniy
      Monetniy April 19 2018 09: 52
      0
      And who fled from Napoleon?)
      1. Civilian
        Civilian April 19 2018 10: 31
        +2
        Quote: Monetniy
        And who fled from Napoleon?)

        There’s a draw near Borodino. The subsequent RESPONSE, not WASTE, namely, the RESPONSE by Kutuzov of the Russian army, was triggered by tactical considerations. There is no question of any “flight”. One can argue about Kutuzov’s decision to surrender Moscow, but no one was “draping” anywhere with a quick run.
        Sports fans have a "look at the board" joke. Who, how, in what time, doesn’t matter - “look at Tablo!”
        So what do we see on the scoreboard, Ilya Georgievich?
      2. Barabashka 68
        Barabashka 68 April 19 2018 12: 15
        +1
        )))) And from the Persians? That's just where all sorts of Daria with the Napoleons, and where is Russia.)))
        How's the "bistro" not yet extinct? And then after all remind mogy.)))
    2. Stavr Godinovich
      Stavr Godinovich April 19 2018 18: 10
      0
      You're right BROTHER !!!
    3. aspirin02
      aspirin02 April 21 2018 23: 12
      0
      Finnish war ??
      1. Barabashka 68
        Barabashka 68 April 22 2018 03: 50
        0
        And what about the Finns, do they already have access to the Arctic? But Stalin offered them. (
        The Finns, like the Ukrainians, believed the Saxons, got what they have. And let them say thanks that they don’t remember for Peter.
  29. Romka47
    Romka47 April 19 2018 12: 18
    +5
    Guys just don’t pounce on me right now for what I think, the APU is now not the same walking joke that was in 2014, they learned how to fight, and I think they and Greece and the Czech Republic are bent, there are many more people on this list who are higher in morale ? they already have 200 thousand fired soldiers with combat experience, these are those who can’t crap themselves under shelling and are able to keep a machine gun in their hands, but for example the German army is in big question, 1/3 fagots 1/3 black, no one saw a real battle that will be with this army when at least 2A42 will turn in their direction?
    1. nikoliski
      nikoliski April 19 2018 18: 25
      -1
      Greece bent? umora- do you even know what army the Greeks have? they live in constant fear of the invasion of the Turks and they have everything-t80, s-300, phantoms, leopards, a good fleet (stronger than our Black Sea), what the fuck horseradish? if they would have reached Greece on their barges, then the Greeks would have drowned half, and the second half would have surrendered in order to stay on permanent residence in Greece)
      1. Civilian
        Civilian April 19 2018 20: 15
        +1
        Quote: nikoliski
        Greece bent? umora- do you even know what army the Greeks have? they live in constant fear of the invasion of the Turks and they have everything-t80, s-300, phantoms, leopards, a good fleet (stronger than our Black Sea), what the fuck horseradish?

        And respect for the state.
        Once I drove into the Greek "ass" (an island, I don’t remember which one). "Ass" nowhere else, some mountains, looped up, goats, rams on the road. The architecture surrounding is simpler and simpler, the "cockroach darkness" is Greek, in a word. The village of houses is 20-30. Poverty.
        And suddenly! Flagstaffs with the flags of Greece, the EU, NATO, probably marble - granite, roses, chrysanthemums, in general, an obelisk, large, well-groomed, beautiful. In diameter, all this took 30-40 meters. What was written, could not be translated, a NATO pilot, born in this village, died at the beginning of the two thousandth.
        I fell into a stupor. So it was a shame.
      2. Romka47
        Romka47 April 20 2018 09: 19
        +1
        Cypriots also consider themselves Greeks, so the Turks chopped off their island floor, and chopped off the rest, and gouged Greece, you talk to them. In Cyprus, for example, there is no army, they are for "a peaceful settlement, they do not want to warm up the conflict and therefore do not create an army." Oh yes, remind me when was Greece the last time someone defeated someone?
        1. nikoliski
          nikoliski April 20 2018 19: 01
          -1
          Is there no army in Cyprus? are you in parallel reality better google, I’m not even going to list all the weapons that the Cypriots have and about the Turks they burst in with superior forces, but managed to pump from the Cypriots in full, there were times when the Greeks captured the Turkish tank and destroyed the Turks with it.
          1. Romka47
            Romka47 April 23 2018 13: 13
            +1
            I didn’t google my friend, I admit my mistake, the guide told me (was there somehow) and the locals also said that there was no army. But the wiki says there is not a weak one. He was wrong. Probably.
  30. Stavr Godinovich
    Stavr Godinovich April 19 2018 18: 09
    0
    Outperformed Burkina Faso !!! There really is only 200 fighters.
  31. SVD
    SVD April 21 2018 20: 39
    0
    The calculation is somehow strange. Not a supporter of ukrov, but I think that the fighting efficiency of Ukraine will be higher, and certainly not at the level of Greece. Or the Greeks and Czechs were clearly overstated.