A lesson that has not yet gone to the future

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The Ukrainian catastrophe also began with the irresponsible and unpunished defeatist boltology of anti-state media.





The author of these lines is not the president of the Russian Federation and not even her citizen. I am a citizen of the Soviet Union, having forcibly issued by the occupation authorities auswais of a “citizen of Ukraine”, but never giving his consent to deprive me of my homeland in its entirety.

Therefore, I am not going to give advice to the current Russian authorities. But I reserve the right to reflect on the interests of my great Motherland, which belongs to me by the right and the former does not happen.

So, this Motherland, or rather, some of its remnants, still under-annexed by the West, are trying to resist the world hegemon and defend their right to an existence independent of it and even to exist as such. In places, this resistance is already assuming the character of a full-scale war.

In particular, it is generally recognized, including at the official level of the Russian Federation, that an information war is being waged against Russia.

But if this is so, and this is indeed so, because such serious definitions as “war” are not accepted to be used in official documents without good reason, then quite definite conclusions follow from this fact.

For information warfare is nothing but purposeful actions aimed at the moral decay of the troops and the population of the adversary state in order to force it to end resistance and capitulation.

Accordingly, all the forces and means used by the West in this war are, by definition, instruments of military confrontation. And as such, they are subject to complete neutralization, including through their complete destruction.

This was not done at the time in Ukraine, almost all of the media which were previously bought up by Western intelligence agencies. It was they who brought the case of the moral and political expansion of the population of this country to the final point in the form of complete indifference of this huge mass of people in the process of a coup d'etat and the seizure of power by Western agents.

How much is this lesson taken into account in other areas of my homeland still trying to resist the geopolitical aggressor? Did you succeed at least here to neutralize the tools of demotivation and moral disintegration of society, used by the enemy under the guise, similar to the Ukrainian case? Consider in this regard, the situation in the Russian Federation in the context of discussion in the public space of the hottest topic at the moment - the situation in Syria.

To be honest, I have no reasons for optimism. The information space, or rather the Internet, which is its modern equivalent, is literally flooded with a stream of the most turbid comments on this topic that interpret the situation in the world after the US attack on Syria April 14 and the role of the Russian Federation in these events. Here is a typical short version:

"After the missile attack in Syria, where the United States hit so that no one gets into, and Russia does not strike back, the fighters of the information front, playing on the side of the West, have become more active."


Please note: it seems to be written from a patriotic standpoint, with obvious disapproval of the machinations of "information front fighters playing on the side of the West." But even the authors of this text themselves, who seem to be "playing" on the other, right side, without batting an eye, claim that "Russia has not struck back!"

From such infantile frivolity literally bewildered. Even if the destruction of two-thirds, if not three-quarters of the enemy's attacking missiles is not considered a retaliatory strike, then I simply have no words. Are they missing the red flag over the Reichstag? And the fact that Russia has organized everything in Syria in such a way that the American aggressor has thoroughly substituted itself and disgraced the whole world with its completely useless rocket attack, is this also not a retaliatory strike by Russia? And just by chance happened? This is the extent to which it is necessary to be naive kids in order to seriously think that Russia is completely withdrawing itself from repelling this attack, and the whole of this total rocket was committed by the valiant Syrian anti-aircraft gunners.

Guys, writers! An hour you did not notice that the American enemy in the course of this attack completely refused to attack the forces and means of air defense of the SAR? That is, from what is a prerequisite for the success of any military air attack. Do you seriously think that the Yankees are so humane that they regretted the Syrian gunners and the radar operators? Yes, they wanted to sneeze on them! But they did not dare to strike blows at the positions of a nominally Syrian air defense, where serious people are probably sitting with no appearance typical of these places.

And this is called "Russia did not respond to the blow"? Full control over the situation, forcing the enemy to act in the most unfavorable conditions for him and, finally, the practical defeat of his rocket group with clear evidence to the whole world that the American features are not so terrible as he is painted, is it that little things that do not deserve attention?

And here's another from the same low-sick patriotic "opera". The title of the business publication reads: "The whole planet is waiting for the return stroke of Russia." Yes, he was already, was! Calm down finally! But it’s not so long for Armageddon to click!

I feed on the faint hope that such things are written not by any experienced enemy agents, but simply by purely civilian people who have no idea what war is and what the cost of war decisions really is. You read such militant clerks who are almost upset by the fact that Putin did not “kick in the Pindos” with “all the proletarian hatred” and inevitably ask yourself: do they have children and grandchildren? And they generally understand that Putin has just once again saved them themselves from fiery hell? Into which the whole world would inevitably turn, had he allowed at least one wrong move in this situation.

Or another revelation of the same demotivating posiba:

"The succession of strikes in recent months (the battle near Deir ez-Zor, the death of Skrypal the cat, the sanctions and now the missile strike before the investigation), the Western coalition teaches the world to think that the position of Russia is not an obstacle for their plans and their allies . This hint is not even Damascus, but to all potential friends of Moscow. ”


About the death of the Skrypal's cat as a justification for the thesis that “the Russian army will not be able to defend its allies” is even scary to repeat. And what if through such phrases the infection of inadequacy is transmitted? And essentially the same thing. Again the red flag over the Reichstag is required? Or an American aircraft carrier, slain to death by the Dagger? Without this in any way? And nothing that Russia, which supposedly all is so powerless, in response to the same American strike at Deir-ez-Zor provided all the conditions for the successful elimination of the huge terrorist enclave in Eastern Ghouta? And thanks to this, in the most decisive way, moved the case to the complete victory of the legitimate government of Syria and to the inglorious end of the aggression of hirelings of the West against this country. All this does not count?

And when the same Americans tried to recoup using rocket attacks, the same Russia, which, they say, “cannot protect anyone,” arranged everything so that almost all American missiles flew over Syria like plywood over Paris. Suffice to say that it was the first in the world stories Bombing, during which no one died!

It is noteworthy that the same edition broke out with a whole series of publications, the authors of which vigorously repeat the same thing: America rules, Trump has a “brilliant plan” as usual, and Russia is the same “simple” who has absolutely nothing. does not exceed.

“The very same demonstration ... to the countries of the Middle East and the whole world that the military presence of Russia does not guarantee full protection from American aggression. This is the message of the United States to the entire planet from 14 on April 2018 of the year: yes, we are not able to conduct a full-fledged invasion of the country where the Russian military forces are, but we will be able to carry out punitive air strikes for letting the Russians take over. This is an act of intimidation to those who were about to get out of the influence of Pax Americana, the dollar system. ”


In short, the Americans, who with their new “blow” managed even worse than last year’s according to Shairat, turned out to be full-time students and intimidated everyone! And Russia and Syria, which, perhaps for the first time in world history, really broke off their horns, are hopeless losers who have proved their weakness! In both!

I think that world leaders capable of sensibly assessing the situation and, in general, adequate analysts made the opposite conclusion from recent events. Within the framework of which there can be no talk of some kind of "fatal incapacity" of the Russian Federation and its "useless military capabilities." As well as the voluntary game of giveaway on the part of Washington. Otherwise, with a fright, the same French Macron immediately after this Syrian story began to ask to be considered equal to Putin? Does he need it if Russia "can do nothing"?

Moreover, I suspect that after April 14, the global queue of those who want to urgently acquire Russian air defense systems will increase significantly. Because this is exactly what many countries lack in the terrorized America in order to stop being afraid of their missile-bomb blackmail and declare their rights in a loud voice.

But if such comments can still be somehow explained by the biographical problems of the authors - especially the stafirok, but with some hope of the honesty of their delusions, then there are cases of a completely different sort. From which malicious intention breaks a mile away. One of these Moscow editions advanced in terms of anti-Russian insinuations on the same days began to expose an American (!!!) TV channel, which had the audacity to doubt the veracity of Washington's inventions about the “chemical attack of Assad” in Syria!

First of all, the strangeness of the situation itself, in which the Russian edition defends the American government from criticism of American journalists, draws attention to itself. And secondly, the argument is curious, which used to lower this politically incorrect media:

“The reportage of the journalist was ignored by non-Russian-language media, possibly for several reasons at once. For starters, Sharpe Pierce admitted that he did not speak Arabic and arrived at the Duma accompanied by the Syrian military. According to some commentators (mainly on Twitter), this has seriously reduced the credibility of his report. In any case, his words that everyone with whom he communicated (through military translators) “love Assad” did not look more convincing because of this. ”


I specifically quoted this text of words so that you would appreciate the whole “charm” of this “revelation”. The same is necessary - the American journalist does not speak Arabic! Yes 99% percent of journalists in this country do not know a single word in any language other than their own. What does not prevent them from accusing Syria and its power of all mortal sins. Using the services of translators is a normal practice of journalistic work on a business trip abroad, and only in such an insane text can it be equated with crime.

And here's another problem - the American arrived in the Syrian Duma, accompanied by the Syrian military! And with whom he had yet to appear in the area controlled by the Syrian army? In a company with terrorist fighters, or what? And this is not to mention the fact that this guy even visited that poor Syria and looked at it with his own eyes. Whereas almost all other US journalists write about the “bloody crimes of Assad,” generally without leaving their own overseas editorial boards.

That is, we face a frankly incompetent nonsense. Nevertheless, this frankly biased set of words, the only meaning of which is the apology of the official position of the White House about the guilt of Syria, and, therefore, of Russia, is completely free to spread on the territory of the Russian Federation involved in a fierce information war!

And in vain you think that it has no consequences. So, for example, the audience of the same publication by two-thirds of votes expresses confidence that calls for the mobilization of Russian society against the background of an external threat are nothing more than a banal boltology of the authorities and a departure from the country's real problems:

Date: from 12.04.2018 to 19.04.2018.
Calls for the mobilization of society against the backdrop of an external threat are ...
The natural reaction to exacerbation of the situation is 5510 (33,51%).
Attempt to avoid talking to the point - 7252 (44,1%).
A special genre in television and radio is 3682 (22,39%).
Total votes: 16444.

Information warfare is a very serious thing. These are nails that hammer your head in such a way that you do not even notice it. And in the meantime, your brain shrinks and turns into a primitive gadget for receiving external control signals. Information warfare, like any other, requires adequate (military) measures to counter enemy intrigues. That is extremely tough and best of all proactive.

However, gentlemen, the Russians, do what you want. You are on this fragment of my homeland formal owners. And I, in my current status, are no one at all, such a “negro of advanced years”. Which, however, saw something in this life with its own eyes. And, in particular, he saw how another same fragment of my Homeland easily devoured the same Americans in precisely this way, after fooling the weak local heads with their propaganda. Exactly the same American spill, which now they feed you. And with which they enthusiastically sing along, partly through thoughtlessness, and most often within the framework of a specific editorial policy, local narrators. Want to step on those same rakes? Yes please! It will be your choice. I fulfilled my mission: I warned about the inevitable consequences.
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  1. +10
    April 19 2018 05: 50
    But Russian air defense could not save a cat of violins? I could not! There is a lag in the space rocket! lol
    1. +6
      April 19 2018 05: 57
      For each hamster killed by London, one Ticonderoga to the bottom.
    2. +8
      April 19 2018 06: 03
      But they drove the small British submarine with pissed rags all over the Mediterranean, and they did not let them shoot! And of the three French mushrooms, only one could shoot, and that’s where! lol
      1. +2
        April 19 2018 08: 04
        There it is .... Directly "pissed rags"? Dizelyuhi "drove" an atomic boat with a long underwater speed of more than 20 knots? wink Oh well. There are other opinions on this subject. https://realnoevremya.ru/articles/96339-duel-s-ru
        sskoy-podlodkoy-prikryvaet-pozor-britanskogo-flot
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        1. +5
          April 19 2018 08: 41
          https://topwar.ru/139966-britanskaya-submarina-ne
          -smogla-otstrelyatsya-po-sirii-varshavyanki-ne-da
          li.html
          How is that? Perfumed shawls, damn it ....
          1. +3
            April 19 2018 09: 00
            So there, in the link I quoted, it is written that all this "news" may be a "duck of pure water" and why ... Anyway, this story does not honor the British fleet, but still you need to think a little over what media reports ...
            1. +5
              April 19 2018 17: 07
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              So there, in the link I quoted, it is written that all this "news" may be a "duck of pure water" and why ... Anyway, this story does not honor the British fleet, but still you need to think a little over what media reports ...

              We also have these: “It's all feyk” They’re not plotting anything against Russia ““ It is necessary to negotiate with the West “And with whom to negotiate?
        2. +1
          April 20 2018 14: 06
          Well, about the "drove" I will not argue. But the nuclear reactor on a submarine (or surface ship) is not a panacea. Winning, by and large, is in autonomy, but not in speed, visibility and efficiency. And the main thing is autonomy. Do you already have atomic cars in school in USA?
        3. +1
          April 22 2018 18: 29
          And what exactly is the speed of an atomic submarine different from a diesel one except as a way of energy release. Explain. KILO project submarine 24 knots under water.
  2. +5
    April 19 2018 06: 29
    The author of the article distorts the facts and lies:
    This was not done at the time in Ukraine, almost all of the media which were previously bought up by Western intelligence agencies. It was they who brought the case of the moral and political expansion of the population of this country to the final point in the form of complete indifference of this huge mass of people in the process of a coup d'etat and the seizure of power by Western agents.

    The famous "And what for us?" The non-brothers change their shoes on the fly. Soon they will claim that they were opponents of the Maidan. It was just this coup that took place with the participation and support of millions of horses, and not at all "Western agents." Golden Eagles killed and burned Western agents? The House of Trade Unions was set on fire, and Western agents also beat off people jumping from windows? And 5 hryvnias on SMS for support of anti-terrorist operation too the western agents sent? And dozens of thousands of Western agents were also registered as good agents for punitive operations in the Donbass? And for "a thousand hryvnias per day"?
    1. +3
      April 19 2018 07: 28
      all the media of which were bought in advance by the special services of the West. It was they who brought the matter of moral and political decomposition of the population of this country to the final point

      Just this fact proves that a large part of the Ukrainian population did not treat Russia very well and was not alien to Bandera nationalism. Otherwise, why read and watch all these "bought up" SMRAD. So do not blame the mirror.
      1. +15
        April 19 2018 14: 02
        You go there. The article is not about that the Ukrainians "I’m not guilty, made a fool of me."
        An article about the purposeful processing of the Russian population during the information war unleashed by the West. But the government clearly underestimates this sabotage activity and does not take countermeasures.
        The author is worried about the catastrophic consequences that such inaction can lead to, and here I am completely in solidarity with him.
        I’ll even add - in the government, which during the war, and Russia has repeatedly officially declared that an information war is being waged against it, does not take any action against the 5th column, either mentally retarded or hidden enemies are seated.
        Do you believe in downs in government?
        It is very necessary to clean the government from the Gaidar followers, very much. We look forward to May 8th.
        1. +2
          April 19 2018 14: 28
          Rostislav (Rostislav)
          You go there. The article is not about that the Ukrainians "I’m not guilty, made a fool of me."

          This author has all the articles in one style, one meaning.
          "War" - "War", "West" - "West". All as one we rally around the dear Guarantor.
          And it’s nothing that the Guarantor has an entire liberal government and he is pleased with this government.
          It is very necessary to clean the government from the Gaidar followers, very much. We look forward to May 8th.

          Yes, he will never have a nationally-oriented government. There will always be liberals.
      2. +4
        April 19 2018 14: 02
        Quote: populist
        Just this fact proves

        This fact proves that you have not been to Soviet Ukraine and nothing more!
        1. +2
          April 19 2018 21: 50
          I was once born and raised in “Soviet Ukraine” - in the glorious city of Kherson, lived there, thank God, only until 17 years old. And like no one else, I do not know the true mentality of skakuaz.
    2. +2
      April 19 2018 13: 09
      200% guarantee that you cannot show on the globe where that Ukraine is located. Typical gentlemanly set of "expert" from Mukhosk. He was nowhere, he didn’t see a damn thing, but he knows everything and sentenced everyone.
      1. +2
        April 19 2018 13: 20
        Well, of course, I can’t "show on the globe where that Ukraine is located." This is the first time I hear such a name. I only know the names 404, Skakuasiya, Beggar, Skakua-New Pig, Pig-Bezsala and Benderostadt.
    3. +3
      April 19 2018 14: 00
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      The author of the article distorts the facts and lies

      what Eh Kuzya, Kuzya, didn’t you understand anything ..... or did you understand and are trying to blame another? am
      1. +3
        April 19 2018 14: 04
        That is, you are one of those "And us for sho?". Surely the millions of skakuas who galloped across all the cities and regional centers of Ukraine are all Western agents?

        How many skakuazas are there? Really only 500 goals? And how many were there throughout Nenko? And really, they rode for months on the same square without sleep and rest? Really they did not go to the Maidan to jump at least four shifts?
        1. +4
          April 19 2018 14: 15
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          That is, you are one of those who "And us for sho?"

          belay Is there a hole in your head?
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Surely the millions of skakuas who galloped across all the cities and regional centers of Ukraine are all Western agents?

          My dear, put Grudinin as the president of the Russian Federation, and even better Groysman, and in four years, tens of millions will jump on Russian squares. who is quite sane today !!!!
          1. +3
            April 19 2018 14: 22
            Do not confuse your skakuas with pots on empty cuttings, with the Russians, who will give you, skakuas, one hundred points on IQ about intelligence and reason sensibly. Russians, like millions of you, will not be jumping for cookies and lace panties.
            1. +3
              April 19 2018 14: 29
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Don't be confused своих skakuasa with pots on empty cuttings

              good laughing Like a hole in my head !!!!!
              1. +3
                April 19 2018 14: 45
                Well, we, the Russians, will definitely not jump and scream "Dill on a branch!". But millions of pan-leekers rode with screeching "M ... ku on a dime!". Or will you deny it?
                Although I am sure that you will deny, because the pan is responsible for the clap, the clap itself is sinless, since it does not bear any responsibility. So you have to ask from the Yankees.
              2. 0
                April 20 2018 19: 06
                I also didn’t laugh for so long))))) - but really not funny
                the intelligence of cats, they say, on average at the level of a 4 year old child) seems to be true.

                will give a hundred points on IQ about intelligence and reason sensibly - and what else fundamentally differs Russians from Ukrainians ???? and you, Cat Kuzya, as I understand it - a graduate special in distinction
  3. +2
    April 19 2018 07: 13
    That is extremely tough and best proactive.
    But who is arguing with this?
    I fulfilled my mission: I warned of the inevitable consequences.
    Thank you so much, otherwise we were not aware that there was, among other things, an information war, which also needed to be answered. No offense.
  4. +3
    April 19 2018 07: 22
    The information war is a serious thing, usually when they try to distract the country to an external threat, someone tries to crank out their combination, to pass a law that is not passing (retirement age, biometrics or Brexit ...) to distract from their stocks. A convenient topic of external threat allows you not to solve your problems, but also a dangerous one, the situation can get out of control. Conclusion - the unsolved internal problems of Yanukovych allowed to ruin Ukraine, our unsolved problems will ruin Russia.
    1. +4
      April 19 2018 10: 08
      "Your problems" will ruin your health if you focus on them. Just in case, check: are they really there? And how serious?
      Who has a problem earning a pension earlier, and who continues to work. In any case, this is not a reason to ruin the country.
      Internal problems have always been and always will be - while alive. And they must be solved without rushing, in silence and tranquility.
    2. +3
      April 19 2018 13: 06
      Well, thanks, dear father! Enlightened me blue-legged. And I kept thinking - what is it that Stalin declared the Great Patriotic War? Now it is clear! He distracted the people from the jambs and did not solve their problems. And Hitler also wrote a plan for Barbarossa! Well cunning! Once again - respect!
    3. +4
      April 19 2018 14: 07
      Quote: Alex66
      Conclusion - the unsolved internal problems of Yanukovych allowed to ruin Ukraine

      laughing It all started much earlier than Yanukovych, Yanukovych was just an extra in this play!
      Quote: Alex66
      our unsolved problems will ruin Russia.

      what I’m all thinking, after the elections in the Russian Federation, both the Communists and the liberals stopped remembering for pensioners and the poor ..... why would it?
  5. +8
    April 19 2018 09: 10
    In one, the mattresses are right, all the missiles launched by them hit the main target. One. The brains of the layman. Goals in Syria? Come on! 60% shot down, the damage is almost zero, all this is a trifle not worth attention, compared with the effect in the world mass media. 200 lemons in the sand? It was worth it. You look at how our convoy of traitors of different stripes perked up. How the ruins crowed, hiss and sprats hissed. And this despite the fact that the US military themselves speak about the results very vaguely and ambiguously.
  6. +1
    April 19 2018 09: 50
    An article from the category - burned with a boil, didn’t see anything useful, and that’s what, in Ukraine, TV channels and news died in 2011, Maidan made social networks and the Internet channel ESPRESSO TV, well, you can name 5 from TV channels Poroshenko’s channel, it was he who called this disgrace Euromaidan, so, on a note
  7. +5
    April 19 2018 09: 50
    Yes, on the morning of April 14th there were so many cries! They were offended to death that Russia did not drown anything and did not start a world war. I was even worried that these screams would wake Shoigu and he would shy away from the slopes! Only rubbing his eyes calmed down: thank God Putin will allow it!
  8. +8
    April 19 2018 09: 54
    I understand the fellow countryman and his desire to convey experience, to teach on our mistakes. I can not only agree with superficial estimates.
    1. No S-300 is a super duper weapon. If you put the baboons at the controls, then they will not hit 71 out of 103 missiles. The real weapons are advisers who trained in calculations, they were praised and not the old Sovetsky air defense system. Without Russians, the Syrians abandoned tanks, armored personnel carriers, and warehouses. They are there by the handle of Iranians and Russians. Kill comments "Syrians will show right now"
    . The only thing they show is sparkling heels, at the very first "skheher". Special forces can be considered an exception, but the results will be lined up in the team standings, and they won’t shut all the holes.
    2. The killer conclusion that everything was decided on the Maidan and people were brainwashed. The discrepancy is evident in the Crimea and the Donbass. We were in the same information field as we were, but for some reason we didn’t buy it. My opinion is the outcome of "fuss on the Maidan" (not to call the actions of law enforcement officers) decided by the oligarchs and people at key posts.
    Sorry for the harshness, but with all due respect to the Golden Eagle, they failed due to the reluctance of mid-level commanders to take the initiative and take responsibility. I know that the reverse side of discipline is the suppression of initiative, but there is clearly an excess.
    The question is, why do most Russians condemn liberals and oligarchs, but tomorrow at 15-00 they will not go to the main squares of cities for a rally? No permission from the authorities? Or is there no call from the "center of gravity"? Unfortunately, both Russians and Ukrainians are now MASS !!! While there is no truly "violent" they will wait for the weather from the sea.
    I do not call for Maidan !!! A simple example is to gather at the mountains of the administration and ask the mayor if everything is okay with you at the PPC in the KRC. This will kill all the "vacation" excuses, as the mayor is required to respond to public inquiries, and will have to send people. Later, if he no longer “jumps” for the holidays and will have to answer for omissions.
    How many cities do you think is feasible? hi
    1. +2
      April 19 2018 13: 17
      Quote: Salomet
      I do not call for Maidan !!!

      Do not need. Russia shot its "maidan" with tanks. And Vlasovtsev pressed to the nail, unlike Ukraine.
      1. +4
        April 19 2018 15: 31
        I do not quite understand who the Russian Federation shot with tanks. belay
      2. 0
        April 23 2018 20: 14
        Tanks in the Russian Federation in 1993, it was just that the EBN organized the Maidan, and the neovlasovites from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation are now in power.
  9. +5
    April 19 2018 10: 09
    Yandex headlines also kill me sometimes. As if these headlines were written by outspoken defeatists, traitors and panics. And if you open the Ukrainian version of Yandex, then there is generally complete Deutsche Wochenschau. Russia there is both an aggressor and an outrage of international calm and a bunch of similar obscene labels. The author wrote correctly, Russia has already struck back, do not click about "retaliatory strikes." We still have time to “bang” while the world is relatively in balance does not need a hot war. And swearing, the dog barks, wears the wind, does not hang on the collar.
  10. +7
    April 19 2018 10: 39
    The author, many thanks for the article. You are in the top ten, everything is written correctly. I have exactly the same thoughts when reading this kind of comments on various sites that you cited. And in the same way, it disturbs from those reviews that are written as if by a patriot, but after a patriotic beginning, there is such a fly in the ointment that you immediately think about trolls or fighters of the Siberian troops, the most democratic countries. Although I am not wounded and not a supporter of conspiracy theory, RenTV cannot stand, from the word at all. The similarity of our positions, IMHO, is connected precisely with the fact that we come from the USSR and we are primarily internationalists. I look with concern at new generations in Russia, but I raise my children, I think properly, but I'm not sure for other families in Russia. In Ukraine, I was primarily surprised at the fact that not only the youth easily accepted the idea of ​​independence, this is understandable, but that the personalities with the surname Ivanov, as it seemed, were sincerely on the side of the new Ukrainian government, some of them even came to Ukraine Russian regions, after 90 years and were not nee Ukrainians. Moreover, when a Russian by nationality, somewhere in Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa or Sumy says that we are right in Ukraine and therefore must speak Ukrainian, why the Russian language should have the same status as Ukrainian. I have nothing against the Ukrainian language, I have nothing against embroideries, as well as quilted jackets, although they haven’t been released since the end of 80, just as I am not against the same dialects and Ayshivans, for example, of the Kursk region.
    Once again, for the article is great, to @ c @ pskoe, thanks.
    1. +5
      April 19 2018 12: 19
      as well as not against the same dialects and Ayshivan, for example, the Kursk region.

      Why should the Russian language in Kursk be banned, and instead of it should be some kind of fictional "Kursk" language? Are you by any chance an ardent Bendera who wants to join Kursk to 404? Or are you the very Klim Chugunkin who was born and raised in Kursk, but became an ardent Nazi and Bendera?
    2. +4
      April 19 2018 13: 56
      Quote: ALSur
      In Ukraine, I was primarily surprised at the fact that not only the youth easily accepted the idea of ​​independence, this is understandable, but that the personalities with the surname Ivanov, as it seemed, were sincerely on the side of the new Ukrainian government, some of them even came to Ukraine Russian regions, after 90 years and were not nee Ukrainians. Moreover, when a Russian by nationality, somewhere in Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa or Sumy says that we are right in Ukraine and therefore must speak Ukrainian, why the Russian language should have the same status as Ukrainian.

      If there would be a Union, they would be Soviet, and so the RF refused them in the first place, and what was left for them? Move? Throw everything and go for a Russian passport? Only on the grounds that the Ivanovs can only be in the Russian Federation?
      If the "Ivanovs" are isolated for more than 20 years, then they will be forced to build "their own casino with blackjack and other Rada"

      the main homeland has disappeared, remained
      small homeland.
      1. +1
        April 19 2018 14: 14
        Klim Chugunkin, yes, a very bright representative of the "destitute Ukrainian Russian". Already so "destitute" that I can not regret it.
      2. +2
        April 19 2018 14: 43
        What unfortunate “Ivanovs” you are, in the 90s Russia was stupidly surviving, Ukraine was and remains, for the time being, satisfying in comparison with Russia. Now the situation is somewhat worse and the “Ivanovs” remembered that they are Russian and most importantly, they have a homeland . Let's put America in its place — from all over the Union they will trample the Ivanovs to their “homeland,” but now it’s too early. So stand aside, join the one who wins.
      3. +2
        April 19 2018 15: 10
        Quote: Antares
        Quote: ALSur
        In Ukraine, I was primarily surprised at the fact that not only the youth easily accepted the idea of ​​independence, this is understandable, but that the personalities with the surname Ivanov, as it seemed, were sincerely on the side of the new Ukrainian government, some of them even came to Ukraine Russian regions, after 90 years and were not nee Ukrainians. Moreover, when a Russian by nationality, somewhere in Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa or Sumy says that we are right in Ukraine and therefore must speak Ukrainian, why the Russian language should have the same status as Ukrainian.

        If there would be a Union, they would be Soviet, and so the RF refused them in the first place, and what was left for them? Move? Throw everything and go for a Russian passport? Only on the grounds that the Ivanovs can only be in the Russian Federation?
        If the "Ivanovs" are isolated for more than 20 years, then they will be forced to build "their own casino with blackjack and other Rada"

        the main homeland has disappeared, remained
        small homeland.

        And how do you live in the "small homeland" in Odessa?
        Have you already washed your filthy pens from gasoline, which was bottled at the house of trade unions on May 2, 14th? But you won’t wash your soul, pathetic Sumerian.
  11. +3
    April 19 2018 12: 28
    . If even the destruction of two-thirds, if not three-quarters of the enemy’s attacking missiles is not considered a retaliatory strike, then I simply have no words.

    . The headline of the business publication reads: "The whole planet is waiting for a retaliatory move by Russia." Yes, he was already, was! Calm down finally!

    But Kanashenkov announced the opposite that the Russian air defense did not take part in repelling the attack. So who is lying, you or MO? Or maybe Kanashenkov is an agent of the West, since he plays into their hands?
  12. +4
    April 19 2018 13: 01
    And, in particular, he saw how another same fragment of my Motherland was easily devoured by the very Americans in this way, having previously fooled the weak local heads with their propaganda. Exactly the same American spill, with which you are being treated.
    Or maybe it’s necessary that your idol should take such steps so that there are no “weak heads” on this fragment of your Motherland and my Motherland, and not cultivate the Unified State Examination, violence, s..x and khahanki continuously turn on TV. Do you say his business? And whose? Mine is by itself, only I can’t solve it. winked
  13. +2
    April 19 2018 13: 19
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    as well as not against the same dialects and Ayshivan, for example, the Kursk region.

    Why should the Russian language in Kursk be banned, and instead of it should be some kind of fictional "Kursk" language? Are you by any chance an ardent Bendera who wants to join Kursk to 404? Or are you the very Klim Chugunkin who was born and raised in Kursk, but became an ardent Nazi and Bendera?

    The Ukrainian language is “rural”, the same dialects exist in our regions, especially in the first half of the last century, these dialects use the “old” forms of words that are replaced by other in the modern language, there are also purely local words. This hour the village has become impoverished, often this time “returnees” from the city live there. Therefore, the situation is not so obvious. But if someone, his village dialect, began to affirm as a new language, the situation would be mirrored with Ukraine. I’m talking about this.
    1. 0
      April 19 2018 14: 18
      Yah? Well then, there is no English, but there are languages ​​of London, Birmingham, Portsmouth and especially Northumbrian. Just as there is no German language, there are only Prussian, Westphalian and Bavarian. Nor does the French language exist, since France is generally a conglomerate of Celtic, Romance, and Germanic peoples, and there are Breton, Ile de Frances, Normandy, Gascony, Aquitaine, and Burgundy. You will dare to stutter about this to your owners wassat lol
  14. +1
    April 19 2018 13: 50
    the author didn’t come to an empty head ... what kind of Kremlin does he conduct informational educational cultural and other policies?)))) .. this is how he will come to think ... where is the enemy and how does he look
  15. +4
    April 19 2018 14: 03
    Quote: Al Capone
    the author didn’t come to an empty head ... what kind of Kremlin does he conduct informational educational cultural and other policies?)))) .. this is how he will come to think ... where is the enemy and how does he look

    Judging by the style, you are a "little fellow" or that same fighter of the most powerful army in Europe. It never crossed your mind that parents are responsible for raising children. And Putin, as you know, is the president and only since 2000, but not the father of all the children of Russia.
    1. +1
      April 19 2018 14: 26
      APU in 29th place wassat . Perhaps, according to the rating of these couch onalitags, 404 economies are in the top thirty countries? But in my opinion, the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a rabble of homeless people and marauders, and a simple motorized battalion of the Russian Federation may well disperse the division of these “knights”, and without reinforcing forces.
  16. +3
    April 19 2018 14: 06
    Quote: Stas157
    . If even the destruction of two-thirds, if not three-quarters of the enemy’s attacking missiles is not considered a retaliatory strike, then I simply have no words.

    . The headline of the business publication reads: "The whole planet is waiting for a retaliatory move by Russia." Yes, he was already, was! Calm down finally!

    But Kanashenkov announced the opposite that the Russian air defense did not take part in repelling the attack. So who is lying, you or MO? Or maybe Kanashenkov is an agent of the West, since he plays into their hands?

    And what is the question, indeed, officially, the attack reflected Syrian air defense, where is the discord?
    1. +2
      April 20 2018 12: 20
      The question is, who is lying? What is incomprehensible to you!
  17. +4
    April 19 2018 14: 11
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: ALSur
    In Ukraine, I was primarily surprised at the fact that not only the youth easily accepted the idea of ​​independence, this is understandable, but that the personalities with the surname Ivanov, as it seemed, were sincerely on the side of the new Ukrainian government, some of them even came to Ukraine Russian regions, after 90 years and were not nee Ukrainians. Moreover, when a Russian by nationality, somewhere in Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa or Sumy says that we are right in Ukraine and therefore must speak Ukrainian, why the Russian language should have the same status as Ukrainian.

    If there would be a Union, they would be Soviet, and so the RF refused them in the first place, and what was left for them? Move? Throw everything and go for a Russian passport? Only on the grounds that the Ivanovs can only be in the Russian Federation?
    If the "Ivanovs" are isolated for more than 20 years, then they will be forced to build "their own casino with blackjack and other Rada"

    the main homeland has disappeared, remained
    small homeland.

    Nobody extols Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk here. History will judge and reward them. But not Russia left someone, but Russian people abandoned their identity. And whoever didn’t leave is in LDNR, in the dungeons (in the cemetery) and in Odessa Khatyn, in the Mariupol execution of policemen. There they were, there are Russians. And the banners that rose under the independence are mankurts.
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  19. +2
    April 19 2018 14: 54
    Quote: Salomet
    1. ...
    Kill comments "Syrians will show right now"
    . The only thing they show is sparkling heels, at the very first "skheher". Special forces can be considered an exception, but the results will be lined up in the team standings, and they won’t shut all the holes.
    2. ...
    Sorry for the harshness, but with all due respect to the Golden Eagle, they failed due to the reluctance of mid-level commanders to take the initiative and take responsibility. I know that the reverse side of discipline is the suppression of initiative, but there is clearly an excess.
    The question is, why do most Russians condemn liberals and oligarchs, but tomorrow at 15-00 they will not go to the main squares of cities for a rally? No permission from the authorities? Or is there no call from the "center of gravity"? Unfortunately, both Russians and Ukrainians are now MASS !!! While there is no truly "violent" they will wait for the weather from the sea.
    I do not call for Maidan !!! A simple example is to gather at the mountains of the administration and ask the mayor if everything is okay with you at the PPC in the KRC. This will kill all the "vacation" excuses, as the mayor is required to respond to public inquiries, and will have to send people. Later, if he no longer “jumps” for the holidays and will have to answer for omissions.
    How many cities do you think is feasible? hi

    You are a provocateur, my friend. This is the last three paragraphs. You with your only achievement - Maidan, rush about, as with a written-off sack. They made a straight maidan, sorry, two maidan and immediately became Sumerians.
    According to claim 1: of course, I know the history of the Arab-Israeli confrontation, nevertheless, the strength of the SAA, this hour is much higher than it was and they now often conduct worthy operations. I don’t think you would like to meet them in battle.
    According to clause 2: do not you think that it is completely unfair to make the Berkut employees guilty in that situation. If they had seen the support of the people behind them, the majority would have done their duty. But neither then nor this hour, when they are judged by those who themselves have violated the law, no one has stood up for them.
  20. +2
    April 19 2018 16: 25
    I agree with the author 100%! What Yuri wrote about is a psychological war with all the consequences! The victims of these wars were already the Nazis in Normandy, who had spoiled the landing of the arrogant Saxons, which caused the "cunning fox" Rommel to shoot himself! And also: Hungary 56; Czechoslovakia 68; Poland 89; USSR 91; OVS SVD; CMEA and further on the list of 15 union republics! Not bad for a seemingly innocent name - psychological! But the media never work alone in this war. They work in close conjunction with special services and according to their plan. And if this is not enough, then the Air Force can join, as in Yugoslavia, and if anything, then the NATO ground forces, like in Iraq. So in war, as in war.
  21. +3
    April 19 2018 18: 49
    The article is very sensible and relevant for all post-Soviet republics that resist the final colonization by Washington and its European satellites.
    All rightly respected Author noted in his Article good and correctly accentuated-sapienti sat.
    hi
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  23. +1
    April 21 2018 10: 38
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: ALSur
    In Ukraine, I was primarily surprised at the fact that not only the youth easily accepted the idea of ​​independence, this is understandable, but that the personalities with the surname Ivanov, as it seemed, were sincerely on the side of the new Ukrainian government, some of them even came to Ukraine Russian regions, after 90 years and were not nee Ukrainians. Moreover, when a Russian by nationality, somewhere in Zaporozhye, Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa or Sumy says that we are right in Ukraine and therefore must speak Ukrainian, why the Russian language should have the same status as Ukrainian.

    If there would be a Union, they would be Soviet, and so the RF refused them in the first place, and what was left for them? Move? Throw everything and go for a Russian passport? Only on the grounds that the Ivanovs can only be in the Russian Federation?
    If the "Ivanovs" are isolated for more than 20 years, then they will be forced to build "their own casino with blackjack and other Rada"

    the main homeland has disappeared, remained
    small homeland.

    In response, I will give you an example of the Chinese diaspora in the United States. It would seem that people broke away from their historical homeland, left a totalitarian country, moved to a territory on which they did not historically live, came to a country that is proud of being a melting pot for the nations from which the Americans are leaving. But they remain loyal to China and the American government cannot do anything about it. Therefore, they are not trusted, they are not allowed to technical secrets. Not much is written about this in the American press, but this is a big problem for the United States and the nation is mentally prepared to do the same as dealt with the Japanese at one time and deport everyone. The question is, from the Russians in Ukraine, do you see the same support for Russia?
  24. 0
    April 21 2018 18: 36
    assert their right to an existence independent of it

    Russia is part of a global economic organization. And therefore, there will never be an “independent” existence. There can only be one or another degree of independence within the system.
  25. 0
    April 22 2018 20: 15
    It’s a good article, but it’s also ... I’ve only talked about the “moral decay” of the Ukrainian population by the “bought up” media .. So: I lived in the Dnieper as a student in the years 76-77, of course, in a hostel because I’m not a local and generally came from another republic ..My buddy (local) Ukrainian and half-Jew sometimes invited home to feed a poor student .. So, here we are sitting at the table, having lunch and it was like May 9th. Of course, there was talk, then, and his mother (quiet, modest lady, housewife and in years) calmly and unobtrusively declares that under the Germans there was order and in general everything was more understandable and organized ... I already choked and blushed .. I remember for sure. Ears in a pipe .., well, somehow the conversation turned up .. .We left with a friend somewhere ... I still remember IT .. So that no media have decomposed. The history of our entire History and Ukraine in particular, in particular, prepared the year 2014, and, of course, the generation of people born in the beginning of 90 -h..They then back in the 70s, already looked askance at the Russians, but THIS was in a playful form .. I remember it all very well ... Do you want to I’ll tell you how they treated the Russians in Middle Asia .. I lived there too .... Such things do not go to the astral plane. Look the truth in the eye ...
  26. 0
    April 24 2018 19: 00
    At one time, John Shalikashvili, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said: "We won’t win until CNN starts talking about our victory." I can not vouch for verbatim, but the general meaning is this.

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