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"A unique machine." In the United States rated Russian "Terminator"

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Russian support combat vehicles tanks (BMPT) “Terminator” can significantly change the methodology for using armored vehicles on the battlefield, experts from The National Interest magazine write.




"Terminator" - a unique machine, created on the chassis of the T-72 tank or T-90 tank (depending on the model), but without the main 125-mm cannon,
quotes an article RIA News.

The authors note that "there is already an arsenal of effective combat armored vehicles at the disposal of the Russian Armed Forces, so the order for the army may still be small." At the same time, BMPT data "may become a hit in foreign markets, especially in countries that are fighting against insurgents in difficult terrain."

According to the magazine, the concept of using "Terminators" shows its effectiveness, and if this is confirmed in combat conditions, in the same Syria, the machine can "significantly change the methods of combat operations by armored forces."

Russian armored forces are rethinking the role of infantry fighting vehicles on the battlefield and are considering alternative ways to use them to support the advancement of armored vehicles. The question is what will be better, and the answer is that combat vehicles must have a certain margin of safety and provide additional fire support to the main tanks,
The journal gives the opinion of the Center for Naval Analysis, Michael Kofman.
Photos used:
RIA Novosti / Mikhail Voskresensky
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 18 2018 11: 21
    +2
    Let's try in Syria, there they work a lot of land ..! soldier
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 18 2018 11: 46
      +4
      A couple of cars have been there since 15 years.
      1. krot
        krot April 18 2018 14: 56
        -1
        I agree! Tests are underway in Syria at full speed.
    2. Fedor egoist
      Fedor egoist April 18 2018 11: 47
      +15
      According to information from unverified sources, the next model, Terminator-2, will be from liquid metal :)
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  2. Borik
    Borik April 18 2018 11: 21
    +4
    Rate it, you rated it, and now it will be necessary to test it on yourself.
    1. Slovak
      Slovak April 18 2018 14: 51
      0
      Do experts at The National Interest rely on an intermediary% of advertising?
  3. 100502
    100502 April 18 2018 11: 23
    +1
    Is there a video of a real terminator fight in Syria?
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 18 2018 11: 26
      +4
      have but they are secret stop
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 18 2018 11: 34
        +2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        have but they are secret

        And what could be secret there? belay
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 18 2018 11: 55
          +4
          only to you, in secret - he also flies!
        2. Dimy4
          Dimy4 April 18 2018 12: 06
          +3
          And what could be secret there? belay

          Secret secrecy! bully
  4. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN April 18 2018 11: 31
    +3
    I've been fascinated by the Viper for a long time. About the "Terminator" and say nothing. As for me, the export potential is very high.
  5. Altona
    Altona April 18 2018 11: 34
    +2
    Quote: Borik
    Rate it, you rated it, and now it will be necessary to test it on yourself.

    ----------------------------
    You don’t have to show yourself. There are specially trained devotees who need to be cut. In general, the future lies with robotic systems that can detect, evaluate and destroy potential threats on the battlefield. A sort of tracked "Judge Dredd."
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn April 18 2018 12: 33
      +2
      The two-bit algorithm "shoot at everything that moves without a special tag" is written for our Terminator, business something. Make a terminator - like two fingers. But everyone bothers with logic, recognition, selection and other peace-loving crap of the three laws of robotics.
      I built these in a line, launched the "kill-em-all" algorithm and step behind only have time to step over and load the shells ... the most important thing is that such a terminator does not turn around 180 :)
  6. Altona
    Altona April 18 2018 11: 35
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Let's try in Syria, there they work a lot of land ..!

    ----------------------------
    Vitaliy, we’ll put you on the line of fire as a commander. You shouted yesterday that all the generals are couches, but for the present case there is no mohra! laughing laughing
  7. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley April 18 2018 11: 50
    +2
    Forgive the layman, but how is this unit different from the Tunguska?
    1. SOF
      SOF April 18 2018 11: 59
      +5
      BMPT - tank support combat vehicle. Tunguska - ZRPK - anti-aircraft missile and cannon system.
      The purpose is different, the weapons are different, but about the difference in booking, there is nothing to say about protection, .....
    2. novel66
      novel66 April 18 2018 11: 59
      +3
      offhand - the bulletproof armor, and it is unlikely that anti-aircraft missiles from the tunguska can hit the tank, but on the terminator. just birds. although I'm not a specialist either
    3. Romka47
      Romka47 April 18 2018 12: 06
      +2
      Tunguska-cannon-missile anti-aircraft complex, designed to combat air, if it can hit ground targets, it is purely from cannons, there is no armor, it will quickly die in the first line. the terminator, on the contrary, is focused on combating ground targets, 2 30mm cannons, AGS, ATAKA (anti-tank) missiles, well-armored, can go in the first line near the MBT, in theory it can hit air targets (low speed and low flying) only from cannons . Well attached to the turntable. Generally completely different cars
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 18 2018 12: 23
      +3
      Quote: Dr. Barmaley
      Forgive the layman, but how is this unit different from the Tunguska?

      To make it clear to you, the second name of the Shell-C1 is "Tunguska-3 ... put next to Shell-C1 and the Terminator and you will understand everything. The shell is capable of working on land targets and even sea targets, but its air defense profile. The terminator is a machine so to speak, the "bodyguard" of the MBT is directly on the battlefield, that is, on the front line. Its function is to destroy all tank-threatening threats from a soldier with anti-tank systems and ending with helicopters, if necessary. That is, the Terminator is essentially aimed at destroying enemy manpower and lightly armored targets, which can be dangerous for MBT.
  8. Alex_59
    Alex_59 April 18 2018 11: 57
    0
    When an adversary praises what you are doing, then you are doing something wrong
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 18 2018 12: 01
    +4
    There will be more Terminator BC on the Almaty platform, well, security, mobility, respectively ... but, I think, in the future Terminator will increase the caliber of guns to 40-45 mm, without sacrificing rate of fire. Well, the crew of 5 people, I think it's too big, although it’s clear that it outperforms the tank in terms of the number of weapons, but apparently our developers work to automate the guidance system in order to reduce the crew of this vehicle quantitatively.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN April 18 2018 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      Well, the crew of 5 people, I think it's too big, although it’s clear that it outperforms the tank in terms of the number of weapons, but apparently our developers work to automate the guidance system in order to reduce the crew of this vehicle quantitatively.

      The ATGM operator with the gunner can only be combined with the installation of ATGMs operating according to the "shot-and-forget" algorithm, otherwise no other way ... request
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 18 2018 12: 40
        +1
        Quote: NIKNN
        The ATGM operator with the gunner can only be combined with the installation of ATGMs operating according to the "shot-and-forget" algorithm, otherwise no other way ...

        Most likely ... either make the Terminator's arsenal smaller by redirecting, say, the AGS to robotic systems like Uranus-9.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 18 2018 12: 50
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: NIKNN
          The ATGM operator with the gunner can only be combined with the installation of ATGMs operating according to the "shot-and-forget" algorithm, otherwise no other way ...

          Most likely ... either make the Terminator's arsenal smaller by redirecting, say, the AGS to robotic systems like Uranus-9.

          So there’s a trick that the systems for all occasions are (almost) installed, the ACS is the prerogative of the commander and gunner, then somehow you want to, you need to cope, well, just the ATGM operator can be used for something, but the ATGM is only the operator and it will be difficult to distract him ... And if he "forgot to shoot, then the gunner can do it ... Well, this is my petty opinion, there, whatever they bungled, they can improve the LMS somehow, maybe modern tactical systems like sharing targets on the field the battle between the participants will help, Institutes are working on this and, as it were, funded ... we are waiting ... wink
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 18 2018 13: 06
            +1
            Quote: NIKNN
            So there’s a trick that systems for all occasions are (almost) installed, ACS is the prerogative of the commander and gunner,

            I mean, for me, the Terminator is overloaded with weapons, which leads to an increase in the crew. An overly versatile machine cannot perform the full range of its tasks equally well. Here we need some specialization. For example, let's say that the BMPT is to be used to combat the enemy’s lightly armored vehicles, turrets and MBTs, and the robotic systems like Platform should be left to take care of soldiers with ATGMs, snipers, and enemy manpower.
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN April 18 2018 13: 16
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              , leave the care of soldiers with anti-tank systems, snipers and enemy manpower.

              In such a rapidly changing environment when detecting these targets, I think it is not advisable to provide data for redirecting to robots, here you need to immediately work on suppression (seconds are worth a lot, the same sniper or grenade launcher has time to shoot and leave ... In fact, with these goals infantry cars are coping, but they are too vulnerable ...
              About what you say, I mean in the previous comment ...
              maybe modern tactical systems like joint distribution of targets on the battlefield between the participants will help,
    2. Chaos
      Chaos April 18 2018 13: 15
      0
      A company dug in the forest, each ATGM fighter
  10. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka April 18 2018 12: 02
    0
    Well, everything is now Uralvagon factory will copyright deduct for using the words "terminator". then all Ukraine should get into cyborgs
  11. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 18 2018 12: 39
    +2
    The idea is good, to make various combat vehicles on the T-72 chassis. Our chassis of captured Soviet tanks was actively used. Reliable chassis, durable.
  12. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo April 18 2018 12: 39
    0
    The comments above are not about anything ...
    BMPT Terminator, to be understaffed (!) - KAZ Afganit and KOEP Curtain
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 18 2018 12: 46
      0
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      BMPT Terminator, to be understaffed (!) - KAZ Afganit and KOEP Curtain

      I believe the Terminator is too armed, which entails a quantitative increase in the crew. I believe that a robotic complex like Platforma or Uran-9 with AGS should be attached to the Terminator in order to unload the BMPT.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo April 18 2018 12: 51
        0
        BMPT as well as tanks should be protected from anti-tank
        - from RPG DZ is available, from subcoliber anti-cumulative screens.
        * Without a curtain, he has nothing to do in tank orders (!)
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  14. axxmanm
    axxmanm April 18 2018 18: 23
    +2
    BMPT needed !!
    But not in the current flawed version (it only indicated the direction of development and thanks for that already),
    and in the right one, with a 57mm machine gun with a wide range of shells including programmable shells.