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France and Germany will jointly create a sixth generation fighter

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France and Germany decided to join forces in the creation of a new multi-purpose combat aircraft of the next generation. Last Thursday, 12 of April, 2018, the meeting of the defense ministers of the two countries took place in the German capital, after which the first comments appeared about the imminent start of work on the creation of a new combat aircraft. Although the development of pan-European models of combat technology is traditional slowness, take the creation of the fourth generation Eurofighter Typhoon fighter, the development of a new aircraft always attracts attention, especially when you consider the fact that the British and French are going to skip a generation. The fighter announced by them will belong immediately to the sixth generation of combat vehicles.


There is no reason to doubt that the Europeans will succeed in creating a completely competitive combat aircraft of a new generation. The only really interesting question at the moment is by what time they will be able to create a new combat vehicle. For example, work on a promising fourth-generation European fighter began in Europe at the end of the 1970s. In 1986, Eurofighter GmbH was founded, which became a consortium of the Alenia Aeronautica company in Italy, BAE Systems in Britain, and EADS, the European aerospace industry corporation (today it is Airbus Group). The first flight of their new fighter took place in the 1994 year, and the serial production of the aircraft and the start of operation of the new combat vehicle occurred in the 2003 year.

To date, European countries (not taking Russia into account) produce three types of 4 generation fighters: Eurofighter Typhoon (Great Britain, Germany, Spain, Italy), Gripen (Sweden) and Rafale (France). At the same time, the EU is openly saying that the development and production of a new generation fighter will be too expensive for each individual state, so they decided to conduct the development of a new combat aircraft by joint efforts.

All of the above aircraft have export potential. At the same time, the number of Eurofighter Typhoon fighters built exceeded 500 units in April 2017, when the 500 aircraft was rolled out, which was transferred to the Italian Air Force (as of February 2018, the number of aircraft released exceeded the 533 instance). This fighter is in service with the Air Forces of Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Spain, Austria, Saudi Arabia. Contracts for delivery to Qatar, Kuwait and Oman have been signed. It is safe to say that the European countries today do not have any special problems with the joint production of the 4 generation fighter and its export potential.


The fact that Germany and France thought about creating a promising combat aircraft, it became known last year. In July, 2017, during the meeting of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron, this was announced for the first time. It is assumed that a promising European combat aircraft will replace the 4 generation fighter Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale.

Here are the terms of the appearance of a new fighter called very remote. According to a rough estimate, the first flight of a new fighter will occur no earlier than 2040 of the year. It is assumed that the new aircraft will not belong to the fifth generation of machines, but immediately to the sixth generation. It is known that the project for the creation of the aircraft includes all the leading European aircraft manufacturing concerns and manufacturers of various aviation equipment, including: Airbus, Dassault Aviation, MBDA, Safran, Thales.

In the future, the project of creating a new fighter should become multilateral, the way the Eurofighter Typhoon project was, but British firms have not yet been formally invited. At the same time, the initiators of the work emphasize that in the future they are ready to expand the list of program participants to “strengthen the base” of the project. At the same time, at this stage, Berlin and Paris signal that they are not ready to allow a significant impact on the project, its ideology and technical appearance of the car of specialists from third countries, but in the future they are ready to attend to the creation of launch markets for the new aircraft in the Air Force. ".

The announced project is not the first attempt by European states to create a promising sixth generation combined-arms aircraft. What the French now call Système de Combat Aérien du Futur was previously called the Future Combat Air System. It was about the development of a promising aviation combat complex, which was to come to replace the aircraft Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale. The project partners were France and the United Kingdom, and the amount of expenses already at the first stage of the program was estimated at 2 billion dollars.

Eurofighter Typhoon

Airbus held a presentation of the FCAS program in 2017. This program included the development of a whole family of combat aviation equipment - in addition to the fighter itself, these were unmanned support vehicles, refueling aircraft, a flying command center, and also orbiting satellites. The main qualities that the sixth generation aircraft should have highlighted included innovative types and weapons systems (including laser combat systems), aircraft invisibility for radars, and the ability to use the most remote control of the aircraft (implementing an unmanned control model). It is planned that an agreement to launch a joint European program will be signed before the end of April 2018, and eventually other European countries will be able to join it.

It is noteworthy that France formally did not abandon the joint project with Great Britain, declaring its transfer to a “parallel process”, stressing that work in this direction can be useful. It is worth noting that France from the turn of the 2000-x and 2010-s has been active in the military-political field, having formed a separate bilateral military alliance with the UK (this caused discontent in Germany, where they used to see the role of Paris).

At the same time, Brexit somewhat downplayed the prospects for the implementation of French-British projects in the aircraft industry, although it is still too early to write them off. France is trying to diversify its risks, and in Germany the choice is not so great. In Berlin, at the present time, they are seriously occupied with the question of how to replace the Tornado fighter-bombers, which should withdraw from the Luftwaffe at the beginning of the 2020-s. It is planned to change them either to a new batch of fourth-generation fighters Eurofighter Typhoon (this decision is lobbied by politicians and industry) or to fifth-generation F-35 fighters purchased in the US (the German military insists on this, which has already caused a scandal in Berlin with threats of resignations) .

The announced attempt to create a new fighter looks like another attempt to implement the Eurofighter project, but with a new set of program participants. However, last time, although the aircraft was created and recognized as quite successful, it never became a single European fighter. Then it was France that quarreled with the concern participants. The result was the emergence of the British-German-Italian-Spanish Eurofighter Typhoon, and Paris presented its own Dassault Rafale. Both cars compete with each other in the international market, reducing the share of each other, and the appearance of two different fighters increased their cost in mass production (taking into account the cost of their development).

Dassault Rafale

This time, most likely, the UK is not already in the pool of developers. True, London has a military-technical choice. First, the United Kingdom already purchases fifth-generation F-35B fighters in the United States, and secondly, the country that is Washington’s closest ally can count on some preferences under the program of the sixth generation American combat aircraft. Earlier, London announced that it would acquire fifth-generation F-138B fifth-generation X-NUMX multi-purpose fighter jets for the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy in the United States. In particular, the F-35B fighter jets with the possibility of a shortened take-off and vertical landing will become the main striking force of two newest British aircraft carriers of the type "Queen Elizabeth".

The capabilities of the sixth generation fighter

The fifth-generation fighter jets with their advanced information systems, cruising supersonic flight speed, low radar visibility and integrated radio-technical complexes did not even have time to get comfortable in the sky, as sixth-generation planes already loomed on the horizon. On their appearance and features today, for the most part, it remains only to guess. No details about the promising fighter developed by Germany and France are also still unknown.

Therefore, we can only talk about tactical and technical capabilities, as well as the appearance of the new aircraft. However, individual areas of development of combat aircraft can be identified now. It is absolutely possible to say that the aircraft will be created both in manned and in unmanned version, it will be possible to fly a fighter optionally from the ground. The direct continuation of this feature is the possibility of incorporating the aircraft into the combat network: when the aircraft are combined into “flocks” operating in a single information space. It is also planned that manned aircraft will be able to “drive” robots.

New Fighter as a key element of the Future Combat Air System, concept from Airbus

Also among the features of the sixth generation of machines include - the presence of hypersonic flight speed and super-maneuverability. To these features, Vladimir Mikhailov, head of the military aviation program of the KLA, added in June 2016 of the year also the wide use of composite materials. Of course, the new combat vehicle will have to be multifunctional and possess advanced stealth technologies, extreme secrecy (in the radar and thermal ranges) should be one of the main features of the new aircraft.

Probably, the sixth generation fighters will become two-medium, that is, they will be able to operate equally effectively in the atmosphere and in near space. Also among the features of promising aircraft include the possibility of changing the form in flight and the use of "smart materials". Separately, you can select weapons, which include the prediction of weapons directional action. We are talking about, at a minimum, the appearance of airborne combat lasers and powerful electromagnetic radiation generators, which can hit the onboard equipment of enemy aircraft.

Information sources:
https://iz.ru/729572/konstantin-bogdanov/minuia-piatoe-pokolenie
https://warspot.ru/9500-frantsiya-i-germaniya-sozdadut-novyy-evropeyskiy-istrebitel
https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/germaniya-i-franciya-sozdadut-istrebitel-novogo-pokoleniya
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  1. nikoliski
    nikoliski April 18 2018 04: 31
    +3
    The 6th generation should be an unmanned vehicle capable of withstanding any overload (there is no ballast in the form of a person afraid of them inside), secondly it is desirable that it be a spaceship (ascending into outer space beyond the stratosphere), then the aircraft will become invulnerable to any air defense systems (even with -400 does not reach 35 km) so Musk will create a 6th generation airplane rather than France and Germany, they don’t even have 5 (generally accepted performance characteristics of 5th generation are stealth technology, engines that allow you to fly at supersonic cruising speed and maneuverability)
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim April 18 2018 06: 55
      +4
      Quote: nikoliski
      Musk will create a 6th generation plane rather than France and Germany,

      Let Mask do it to them, for the rest of his life, he loves money, and a noble surgeon. And will it be a miracle plane for years that way through hell knows when. hi
      1. jjj
        jjj April 18 2018 09: 31
        +1
        But somehow it’s also not clear how you can skip a generation.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN April 18 2018 15: 40
          0
          Well, states, they jumped through the third generation and very quickly ..., we only thought about 4m, and they already had them ...
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 12 July 2018 23: 53
          0
          It depends on how you count. In general, neighing is not weak. The geyropeytsy made the fifth generation aircraft, and the result was two, but the fourth. Let's see what happens this time.
      2. Safevi
        Safevi April 18 2018 10: 04
        +8
        "Mask them and does it .... through hell knows when."
        Just the same, at Mask the words and deeds usually do not diverge, in contrast to the well-known language talkers, but constantly moving the final result of trampoline deeds
        1. Pauladin
          Pauladin April 19 2018 09: 29
          +3
          Musk makes 1-2 advertising launches, collects money and switches to a new project. What did he bring to mind? Reusable first stages, hiperlup, super factory with batteries, solar energy, flight to Mars. Tesla - the release of cars could not master in the volumes that promised.
  2. Amateur
    Amateur April 18 2018 05: 16
    +4
    And if they involve Latvia, Lithuania and the Ukraine in the development, then the generation 9,5 will turn out right away
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 April 18 2018 15: 40
      0
      They didn’t please ... Not 9,5 ... And 9,5 ++ and this is only on a five-point scale ... wassat laughing
      1. Amateur
        Amateur April 18 2018 15: 48
        +2
        No, exactly 9,5, by association with the film of the same name. It will fly on two-component fuel - Ukrainian gas as fuel and Lithuanian saliva as an oxidizing agent (poisonous). Over-maneuverability will be achieved using an Estonian computer. And the main weapon will be sprats. Optoelectronic high-selectivity system of the joint English-French production of Highly Likely
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor April 18 2018 06: 01
    +1
    Well done, for 40 years ahead, we are planning the development of technology! It’s a pity I don’t live up to this event!
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim April 18 2018 06: 49
      +3
      Quote: andrewkor
      Well done, for 40 years ahead, we are planning the development of technology! It’s a pity I don’t live up to this event!

      Well done? It is unlikely that anyone will live to see this. Utopians, it’s easier to fly to Mars. hi
    2. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 18 2018 06: 52
      +1
      what technique? these two donkeys are taught to speak - after 40 years there will be no Germans and French left there, multiculturalists in the second generation will play backgammon with a hookah, what do they care about it? request
    3. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine April 18 2018 06: 54
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      Well done, for 40 years ahead, we are planning the development of technology!

      Here are the clowns, do not hesitate to drive a complete bullshit. They will be developed in 20 years, but so far they don’t know what is already without them.
      It is unfortunate that such governments are sitting in the governments of European countries.
      Another thing is that so far the whole idea is at the level of "intentions". No one has yet given money for this, and not the fact that it will.
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 18 2018 07: 03
        +2
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        They will develop in 20 years

        the caliphate will be there in 20 years,
        on flying carpets will fly.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 April 18 2018 12: 52
          0
          Whether the caliphate will be there or not will be difficult to predict. But the fact that the EU will not be - definitely
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE April 18 2018 22: 43
            0
            no question who will inhabit it and what to do
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 18 2018 07: 02
    0
    Quote: Evdokim
    Quote: andrewkor
    Well done, for 40 years ahead, we are planning the development of technology! It’s a pity I don’t live up to this event!

    Well done? It is unlikely that anyone will live to see this. Utopians, it’s easier to fly to Mars. hi

    It depends on what purpose to pursue.
    If the recycling of the budget, then it is.
    Like Haji Nasredin.
    Or the shah will die or donkey.
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine April 18 2018 09: 30
      0
      Quote: Livonetc
      what purpose to pursue

      Import substitution ("support for the domestic producer") - it is also in Germany import substitution, unfortunately.
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 18 2018 22: 47
        0
        German substitution ... France has long been like Algeria
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 18 2018 08: 18
    +5
    Also, the features of the sixth generation machines include the presence of hypersonic flight speed and super maneuverability.
    Hypersonic speed and super maneuverability in one bottle? what How is this? For the "expense" of alien technology? belay
    extreme secrecy (in the radar and thermal ranges) should be one of the main features of new aircraft. and wherein the ability to change forms in flight .
    Hypersonic speed and "extreme stealth" in the thermal range ....? Change of form and "extreme secrecy" in the radar range ....? "Wishlist" -wow! good And the "applied tool" to the "Wishlist" will grow? repeat
    Perhaps the sixth generation fighters will become two-medium, that is, they will be able to act equally effectively in the atmosphere and in outer space.
    What is it? Deck fighter for the space carrier "Babylon-5"? Or the historical motives of the "universal" of the 30-ies of the last century haunt? Won't it be cheaper and more reliable "each on their own": space and atmospheric?
    This, at a minimum, is about the appearance of onboard combat lasers and powerful generators of electromagnetic radiation that can hit the onboard equipment of enemy aircraft.
    And will the game cost a sheepskin? Maybe missiles (RVV and RVP) will cope with combat missions in the near future? Of course, on new technologies: new engines, new fuel, homing systems, hypersound, artificial intelligence ......?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 18 2018 12: 16
      +6
      I see the 6th generation as very simple: an unmanned supersonic fighter.
      There are no special requirements for the hardware; everything has already been developed.
      The revolution is only in control. A mixture of remote control with a self-learning program (specialized AI)
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 18 2018 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        unmanned supersonic fighter.

        As an option, it’s possible .... but ,, a drone and a whisker ... "- hardly ...
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The revolution is only in control. A mixture of remote control with a self-learning program (specialized AI)

        Oh yes! Moreover, not only in drones! Remember Star Wars, where the hero of the film flew with a "robot" behind the back of a chair? wink
      2. dauria
        dauria April 18 2018 23: 08
        0
        There are no special requirements for the hardware; everything has already been developed.
        The revolution is only in control.


        It’s too obvious - the computer in the F-35 and no more ... And here I am over the nuclear engine, which Putin showed in the "cartoon", thoughtful. This may be the beginning of a breakthrough after the 80-year “dominance” of turbojet engines on kerosene.
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 April 18 2018 13: 00
      +1
      Hypersonic speed, over-maneuverability, change in shape in flight, instant change of flight path - all this is quite possible. UFOs are flying! By the way, UFOs are not necessarily aliens. There are also secret developments, time travelers, etc.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 18 2018 13: 07
        0
        This is not the sixth, but further. But, in principle, you are right. Someday the aircraft will be spherical or disco-shaped. To tear from a place in any direction without a turn, just such forms are optimal. It is obvious.
    3. Sergey39
      Sergey39 April 18 2018 13: 06
      0
      Hypersonic in near space, over-maneuverability in the atmosphere - this is the future of military aviation. Only the European Union does not fit there
    4. NIKNN
      NIKNN April 18 2018 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Also, the features of the sixth generation machines include

      Well, then blah, blah, blah ... Of course, the realization of this tale is possible after curbing gravity and putting Higgs bosons at the service ...
      So many requirements without looking even to the nearest back. An example of the maximum possible universalism of the F-35 did not make you think ...
      I think the development will go so far as to hone and improve the existing technologies and equipment and continue this until there is no major breakthrough in applied science.
  6. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn April 18 2018 09: 53
    +2
    According to the advertising booklet, it will be a mixture of Eurofighter with the F-35, the uber-duper TIE-fighter. In practice, the European Air Force will consist of separately surviving Rafales and F-35s (with some new letter and partially assembled in the EU). They can and will develop, but the massive replacement of American interests is unlikely to be financially overpowered, even if they manage to cooperate with all their European aviation capacities. Simply put, ktozh let them escape from a submarine?
    1. Snakebyte
      Snakebyte April 18 2018 11: 38
      +1
      In the fourth generation, they completely mastered, now they are successfully competing with the Americans on the international market. Although the market was late and lost half of Europe.
  7. 100502
    100502 April 18 2018 10: 08
    0
    I think by 2040 there will be full Sharia
  8. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 18 2018 11: 26
    +1
    We do not even know what parameters modernized fifth-generation fighters will have, but we are already talking about the sixth.
    A simple example is to compare the capabilities of the SU-27 of the first series and the SU-35C of the last series.
    Perhaps the sixth generation fighters will become two-medium, that is, they will be able to act equally effectively in the atmosphere and in outer space.

    To do this, you need to create an appropriate engine, which if so far only in dreams and in theory. And taking into account the fact that we are only testing Product 30, then a two-engine engine, in the best case, we will see after 70 years and that is not a fact.
    1. thinker
      thinker April 18 2018 12: 23
      +1
      I recalled a song
      Living and believing is wonderful!
      We have unprecedented paths.
      Astronauts and dreamers say,
      That Mars will bloom apple trees!
      Dolmatovsky Muradali
  9. NF68
    NF68 April 18 2018 14: 40
    0
    I can imagine how long this development will drag on and how much this pleasure will ultimately cost. Again disputes to infinity.
  10. Vova Kabaev
    Vova Kabaev April 19 2018 10: 11
    +1
    So many plans already been
  11. NF68
    NF68 April 19 2018 17: 08
    0
    Quote: Vova Kabaev
    So many plans already been


    Now, some leading German and French defense industry enterprises are gradually merging, but who knows how successful this will be in the future.
  12. Wolka
    Wolka April 19 2018 18: 34
    0
    they were dreaming about heavenly pretzels in sausages with frogs, they hadn’t yet created a bird of the 5 generation, and they were dreaming about the 6, so who will allow them, Yankees or something, they will be the first to cover the project with a copper basin if they don’t participate in the project. ..
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 20 2018 16: 41
      0
      Quote: Volka
      they were dreaming about heavenly pretzels in sausages with frogs, they hadn’t yet created a bird of the 5 generation, and they were dreaming about the 6, so who will allow them, Yankees or something, they will be the first to cover the project with a copper basin if they don’t participate in the project. ..


      The Germans and the French were hopelessly late with the fighters of the 5 generation. Although some research was conducted in both countries. It seems that the new jointly developed fighter will not be the full fighter of the 6 generation, but it can be more advanced than the fighter of the 5 generation. By the time they create it, it is not known what else the USA will graduate from.
  13. 1536
    1536 April 20 2018 14: 53
    0
    In France, student unrest, strikes, protests against the policies of the president and government of this country. In Germany there is no student unrest, protests against the policies of the Chancellor and the government of this country? And they could be. This is the "great two-faced European politician", so that someone is not up to the 6 generation fighters. With whom are the Germans going to fight with such fighters, aren't they with the Zulus?
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 20 2018 16: 45
      0
      Quote: 1536
      In France, student unrest, strikes, protests against the policies of the president and government of this country. In Germany there is no student unrest, protests against the policies of the Chancellor and the government of this country? And they could be.


      in Germany, these protests could not have been, but really have. But in Germany, these protests are held in a more restrained, so to speak, version because the Germans are not so much like the French hot guys. And the fact that Germany accepts hundreds of thousands of refugees, too many who do not like it, is primarily in large cities on the territory of the former GDR. Sometimes this results in the arson of buildings where refugees were settled or in breaking glass.
      1. 1536
        1536 April 20 2018 16: 51
        0
        Yes, God bless them with students and refugees. But why Germany 6 generation fighters. You have everything so advanced, scientific, everything for people (i.e. for Germans), we are forced to develop our defense industry out of hopelessness, so that at least some dual-purpose achievements from there would not allow us to slide into the Stone Age. So, it’s completely not clear why they are an enlightened and united Germany?
        1. NF68
          NF68 April 20 2018 17: 22
          0
          Quote: 1536
          Yes, God bless them with students and refugees. But why Germany 6 generation fighters. You have everything so advanced, scientific, everything for people (i.e. for Germans), we are forced to develop our defense industry out of hopelessness, so that at least some dual-purpose achievements from there would not allow us to slide into the Stone Age. So, it’s completely not clear why they are an enlightened and united Germany?


          Enlightened Germany and no less enlightened France are clearly very afraid of the United States and expect any dirty tricks from the United States at any time and therefore believe that it would be nice to be more or less prepared for these dirty tricks of the United States.
  14. Forever so
    Forever so April 23 2018 22: 01
    0
    The right decision, we must now think about protecting the Franco-German Arabs from the terrible rush. Just in time for 40, there will be no pure Germans and French left there))
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 24 2018 15: 45
      0
      Quote: Forever so
      The right decision, we must now think about protecting the Franco-German Arabs from the terrible rush. Just in time for 40, there will be no pure Germans and French left there))


      Will stay. But they will hide in the corners.
  15. Mikhaildobryi
    Mikhaildobryi 20 June 2018 17: 52
    0
    Today, it’s hardly possible to talk about the conditional 5th, not to mention the 6th.