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Kemerovo tragedy. Three weeks later. Thunder struck someone baptized?

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25 March, a fire broke out in the Winter Cherry shopping and entertainment complex. This is a tragedy. Killed 64 person, of which 41 is a child. For someone, the whole Universe has died, the life of their relatives in fact will not be the same, not in the loud headlines of articles, not on the revealingly sad faces of politicians, but in a mournful reality.




In the very first hours of the tragedy, from all possible information channels such verbiage of versions, conclusions and accusations spilled out onto all citizens of Russia, which, compared to this, was simply child's play. The media audience, plankton around the planet and individuals from the orderless political group quickly saddled a wave of popular anger. Hoping to break through this provocative fog, professional journalists, of course, tried to convey verified information to the audience. But, trying to attract attention, they considered the causes of the tragedy under such an unimaginable number of original angles that they unwittingly contributed to the chaos in which the causes of the tragedy, the perpetrators, and the general trends that led to this were drowning.



Now, an attempt to clean these Augean stables, behind the garbage that hides real problems, sometimes seems impossible. But still ... Firstly, according to eyewitness accounts, some of the premises were blocked, in particular, one of the cinema halls, which turned into a monstrous crematorium for our compatriots. Secondly, the fire alarm did not work. Thirdly, the protection of the SEC and its immediate staff for the most part could not provide any assistance to visitors. Fourth, part of the firefighters did not have the necessary equipment. Fifth, how quickly the topic of supervisory vacations dissolved in the information fog, i.e. moratorium on conducting scheduled inspections of small businesses. And so on and so forth. And one should not lose the factor of provocation by “our” opposition pack, whose language was stuck in the most intimate places of Western masters at the end of the last century.

But along the seam of the whole tragedy, all the questions and accusations, total ringing irresponsibility and impunity passed. Everything else is just a good old attempt to hide shit under the rug.

The cry about the need to create a "system of control" was, of course, picked up by his share of applause. But the system with all its flaws and loopholes already exists - there is not only one thing in it - responsibility. The fire inspectors who checked the burned-out ground at the end of 2009 of the year and killed the Lame Horse 156 people did not spend in prison and 5 years. The guys have long been free, as well as most of the perpetrators of those events.

As soon as a hint of a piece of guilt of the entrepreneurs themselves exploited any commercial space to cracks on the walls, my favorite ombudsman Boris Titov emerged from political oblivion. Having chewed something on the air in defense of blue-gray and unhappy businessmen ruined by bloody officials, he quickly disappeared from the agenda. Politicking bloggers and blogger politicians helped him a lot in this by placing the blame on the government and only on it. The information field of the so-called supervisory vacations for an innocent small business quickly erased from the information field. Therefore, Titov, while not interested in his business, and how many small companies it is fragmented, left the information field covered with fog.

But modern capitalist realities, with their invisible, but sacred objective hand of the market, were far from the last place, both in the tragedy of “Winter Cherry” and in other similar events. Thus, a moratorium on scheduled inspections of small businesses was introduced in the 2016 year, and in March of this year, a few days before the fire, it was decided to extend the “holidays” to the 2022 year. Then our ombudsman Boria, who advocated not only extending the moratorium, but also extending it to medium-sized enterprises, was also highlighted.

For reference, if you drew yourself a small business of a certain shoemaker's workshop, jewelry store or repair of household appliances, then you were cruelly mistaken. By small business, according to the regulations of our wise government, we mean individual entrepreneurs and companies whose incomes do not exceed 800 million rubles, and the number of employees can reach 100 people. Therefore, pulling your eyes from indignation when they tell you that the Winter Cherry shopping and entertainment complex is a small business is at least naive. Indeed, in our country with its cave formalism, you can drive up the Porsche Cayenne to the courthouse and with a pure soul present a salary certificate in 7 thousand rubles - and this certificate will be accepted.



We should not also forget that the very street shouters who have taken advantage of the human grief of the victims in the SEC, with the same pressure, scream that the government is a nightmare business. Wherever you throw a wedge everywhere ... If you, of course, have neither moral nor political will.

At the same time, supervisory vacations have become an important incentive for splitting companies into “unsupervised” atoms with an authorized capital of 10 thousand rubles (it is simply not possible below, according to current regulations). For the sake of truth, it is worth noting that the creation of such fine-cut counters has previously been beneficial in certain circumstances. For example, in the case of risky transactions and force majeure circumstances, a large company for them creates a firm with scanty capital. In the case of lawsuits, such a firm will, of course, be bankrupt, and the plaintiff will have to be content with the trash share capital, since it will be difficult to transfer the blame from the commercial process.

Another touch to the portrait of the information reflection of the Kemerovo tragedy is quite legitimate indignation at the monstrous confusion of the rooms and corridors in the Winter Cherry shopping mall. Later it was connected with the fact that the dispenser is built on the basis of a confectionery plant. But no one even hinted that the reality of the new Russia was based on the unconditional primacy not of security, but of business interests. Therefore, all the SECs and SECs are built on the principle of intricate navigation in order to keep the buyer, even if he burns.

The fact is that by placing all the shops in an intricate (albeit only in appearance - everything is logical for business) order under one roof, providing each of them with audio information flowing from all the speakers, even in the elevator, the kings of marketing achieved a curious effect. This effect has been called the “Grun transference”, when the human brain receives so much information that it involuntarily falls into a state close to paralysis. In this state, the unfortunate man in the street can be thrust anything.

Moreover, many shopping and entertainment centers from the inside are exclusively decorated with glass, metal, and the floor is always flat white tiles, reflecting all the colors of the illusory marketing world. This is done to lure music, glittering lights and video from the screens of numerous monitors do not give the visitor the adequacy of any chance, echoing and reflecting from all sides. Literally falling on the unfortunate resident of the era of consumption. In this state, it takes a minute for a person to start thinking reasonably and quickly. And this without any fire or smoke. Those. any fire-fighting system in such a temple of consumption must be ideal (in the case of the Winter Cherry, at least to work) in order to get the person out of the stupor.

The last hope for putting any sound grain into the global hub was a quiet and modest reminder of the existence of such a vile thing for a free business as SNiPs, i.e. building regulations. These very norms do not allow placing children’s rooms above the 2 floor. But this modest attempt quickly went to the bottom.

So maybe the tragedy that occurred will make the owners of the purchase / sale palaces feel social responsibility? There is no talk of fear of punishment - there is nothing to fear, even in the case of bringing the case to court. Therefore, the author went to the nearest large shopping center, but without any hope.





In Novorossiysk, the main shopping center is the "Red Square". Once it was a one-dimensional building in six floors. Now the center has grown and threw another fat tentacle across the whole street. There, he took almost more ambitious roots of the second building.
Inside, everything is grandly noble, everything in impeccable marketing science is a brilliant glossy floor, bright flowing light and the hubbub of music. And so that the buyer is in no hurry to leave such a magnificent palace, the escalators are arranged in such a way that in order to go down or up - you will have to go around the whole floor.

Kemerovo tragedy. Three weeks later. Thunder struck someone baptized?




Naturally, having thrown a couple of looks into the womb of this “buy-sell” decorated with a fountain, I headed upstairs, forced to bypass each floor in a circle.



The cinema halls are located under the very dome on the penultimate fifth floor, where all new visitors, including those with children, run with a shaft. Moreover, exactly there, on the 5 (!) Floor is an entertainment center for children "Islands". Thus, the SNiPs finally crawled under the baseboard, they died there. Judging by the music rushing from the inside of this center, and the lights of dozens of slot machines flashing like a Christmas tree, no one even thought about transferring this center to the second floor.





But where is the emergency exit? The only alternative to circular movement on the floors and jumping on the escalator (elevator do not take into account). He, fortunately, is. To it leads a thin corridor, resembling the neck of a bottle. I did not notice any signs leading to it.





The exit door is as tight as the cork of an old bottle. It is not possible to open it to a child of 8-10.



The width of the escape route barely allows three adults to disperse. I hope I will forgive the reluctance to check the railing for stability.



I apologize for the defocus, the people were bursting with a session and just pushed me down the stairs



Downstairs I was waiting for another small detail that, under the tragic circumstances, could cost someone their lives. Two doors led out. But, first, both are single-winged, which will provide a crush. And, secondly, one of the doors was tightly closed and decorated with a talking stand - “Passage is forbidden”. However, it would be more appropriate - there is no way out.



Outside, I was in for a surrealistic picture of a button-man sitting in a tiny booth, the only function of which was to raise the barrier. The booth stuck at the end of the colossus of the shopping center. What is the irony of life ...
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 16 2018 05: 20
    +24
    Outside, I was waiting for a surreal picture of a button man who was sitting in a tiny booth, and whose only function was to raise the barrier. The box stalled at the end of the colossus of the shopping center. What an irony of life ...

    No, dear man! The irony of Kuzbass is that those who could not find a way out in a fire may be guilty. Who came to rest, but found his death in the mall. The irony (I would say sarcasm) is that the governor, whose "Governor's program" and activity consisted in ridding Kemerovo of industrial enterprises and turning it into a kind of Chinese flea market, admitted his guilt to the president. And also in the fact that he didn’t leave the government to think in silence and without fuss about his path, which led to the fact that the population of the region was reduced by 500, and that this physically disabled person could not get away from the “feeding trough” , could not lose privileges. In a few years, the tragedy of “Winter Cherry” will no longer be relevant, as the tragedy of “Raspadskaya” was forgotten ... And the leader himself, who “I directed you, I will be responsible for everything”, will leave for another world. The irony will remain. The irony of the fate of ordinary citizens, who were born to live and be happy, but instead got what they have prepared for entrepreneurs, for whom personal benefit is above all.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen April 16 2018 06: 06
      +13
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Outside, I was waiting for a surreal picture of a button man who was sitting in a tiny booth, and whose only function was to raise the barrier. The box stalled at the end of the colossus of the shopping center. What an irony of life ...

      No, dear man! The irony of Kuzbass is that those who could not find a way out in a fire may be guilty. Who came to rest, but found his death in the mall. The irony (I would say sarcasm) is that the governor, whose "Governor's program" and activity consisted in ridding Kemerovo of industrial enterprises and turning it into a kind of Chinese flea market, admitted his guilt to the president. And also in the fact that he didn’t leave the government to think in silence and without fuss about his path, which led to the fact that the population of the region was reduced by 500, and that this physically disabled person could not get away from the “feeding trough” , could not lose privileges. In a few years, the tragedy of “Winter Cherry” will no longer be relevant, as the tragedy of “Raspadskaya” was forgotten ... And the leader himself, who “I directed you, I will be responsible for everything”, will leave for another world. The irony will remain. The irony of the fate of ordinary citizens, who were born to live and be happy, but instead got what they have prepared for entrepreneurs, for whom personal benefit is above all.


      The worst thing is that our state itself has become the largest entrepreneur!

      And this is not even scary, but terrible ....
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum April 16 2018 18: 35
        +4
        In general, it introduces into a stupor.
        Four hundred shopping centers in Russia operate without permission. This became known as a result of a series of inspections that were conducted by the Russian Emergencies Ministry after a fire in Kemerovo, TASS reported on April 16.
        Of this amount, rescuers through the court will demand the closure of 111 shopping centers. The fate of the rest is still unclear. In addition, at 19 thousands of other sites inspected by the Ministry of Emergencies, more than 140 thousand of various violations were revealed. Moreover, this number (19 thousand objects) is only half of all for which the Ministry of Emergencies is responsible for safety.

        That is, businesses and those with bureaucrats have stopped "nightmare" by the will of the highest authorities, and as a result, lawlessness. It’s like with the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station in 2009 - the top leadership has nothing to do with it, the Chubais rat was excused, the tragedy was forgotten ...
        You need to ask from those who arranged a "vacation" for business, who turned the country into a field of credit slavery and market relations, calling it the growth of wealth and covering up their incompetence.

        Karl Marx in the book Capital. Quote:
        "Provide capital with 10% profit, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20% it becomes lively, with 50% it is positively ready to break its head, with 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime for which it does not would venture to go, at least under fear of the gallows "
    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 16 2018 07: 25
      +5
      After the Kemerovo tragedy, fundamental changes took place in the region, if anyone did not notice. So, the head of the region Tuleyev moved to the place of speaker of the regional parliament. Or is it not enough for someone else? belay
      1. your1970
        your1970 April 16 2018 10: 23
        +1
        the author is a little disingenuous about inspectors and owners:
        “At the end of April 2013, the court pronounced the verdict guilty [58]:
        The owner of the club, Anatoly Zak, received 9 years 10 months in a penal colony.
        Club Executive Director Svetlana Efremova - four years general regime colonies.
        Art Director of Lame Horse Oleg Fetkulov - six years of a general regime colony.
        Sergey and Igor Derbenevs, father and son, employees of Pyrotsvet Pyrotechnic LLC, are five and four years and 10 months of a general regime colony, respectively.
        Inspector Dmitry Roslyakov sentenced to five years imprisonment in a penal colony for negligence,
        Natalya Prokopyeva, an employee of the same department, received four years in a colony settlement (they are forbidden to hold government posts for three years).
        The ex-head of the Perm Territory State Fire Supervision Authority Vladimir Mukhutdinov, the court released from prison, imposing a fine.
        Igor Derbenev was released from punishment on the basis of the decision of the State Duma "On declaring amnesty in connection with the 70th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945" at the end of July 2015 [59], and Sergey Derbenev - in September of that year [ 60].

        Former inspector of State Fire Supervision Natalya Prokopyeva came under amnesty for the 20th anniversary of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, a resolution on which was adopted on December 18, 2013 [61]. According to paragraph 2 of the document, then exempted from punishment women with minor children who have received a sentence of not more than five years[62].
        Former Inspector of State Fire Supervision Dmitry Roslyakov was released from punishment on the basis of the decree of the State Duma "On declaring amnesty in connection with the 70th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945" [63]. According to paragraph 3, decisions are exempt from punishment convicted to imprisonment of up to five years inclusive, committed crimes through negligence, to which Article 293 CC RF [64]. "
        so everyone who was guilty sat down, another question is that 2 amnesties passed
    3. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n April 16 2018 11: 12
      +3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      No, dear man! The irony of Kuzbass is that those who could not find a way out in a fire may be guilty.

      No, dear trollik! The irony of Kuzbass is not only this! Your crazy thoughts and your aval deity are also similar to the existing order, and maybe even worse because you didn’t fill your skinny pro-Amerian belts with dough! And without knowing the ford, do not stick your long nose into our region, and it makes you sick without you. Specifically, what can you offer and implement? No? So let's go goodbye! There are many balabolov, there is no one to work and really manage in the name of the people, and not your own purse! And you are the same.
    4. free
      free April 16 2018 11: 46
      +5
      Ross xnumx
      Entrepreneurs for whom personal gain is paramount.
      The root of evil in the socio-economic system called capitalism.
      1. bk316
        bk316 April 16 2018 12: 11
        +5
        Entrepreneurs for whom personal gain is paramount.
        The root of evil in the socio-economic system called capitalism.

        So they are also its basis ....
        1. free
          free April 16 2018 16: 49
          0
          Quote: bk316
          Entrepreneurs for whom personal gain is paramount.
          The root of evil in the socio-economic system called capitalism.

          So they are also its basis ....

          They are primarily a product of capitalism. The petty bourgeoisie does not live far as they would like, and therefore many of them will exchange their haemo swarm business (especially within the framework of the existing system) for work in production for decent wages.
    5. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 April 18 2018 19: 11
      -1
      If the state does not protect you, defend yourself. Here, all victims should file suits Better collectively) for all physical and moral damages against the owners of the shopping center, where the tragedy and the CRIME occurred. Claims of at least 100 million rubles for the deceased, etc. .. If the lawsuit is refused at all levels of the courts of the Russian Federation, continue on international Hague and other courts. Only in this way can one defend oneself and discourage neglect of citizens. This is the case in many civilized countries and such claimed claims bring results.
  2. uporov65
    uporov65 April 16 2018 05: 39
    +5
    The mess in our country is not a diagnosis, but an ordinary condition.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. April 16 2018 10: 53
      +1
      Who personally prevents you from eliminating this mess?
      1. free
        free April 16 2018 16: 43
        +2
        Quote: K.A.S.
        Who personally prevents you from eliminating this mess?

        Konstantin, is it really that citizens should eliminate the mess? Why do we need such a bunch of specialized departments then?
        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum April 16 2018 18: 49
          +6
          Who personally prevents you from eliminating this mess?

          The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and the state monopoly on violence.
          And so people will even support ...
  3. Vard
    Vard April 16 2018 06: 18
    +4
    Nothing personal is just a business .... It’s according to Marx that three hundred percent profit is needed to commit a crime ... And we’ll burn you alive ... Judging by the fact that the owner is a millionaire ... The profit is enough for what happened ....
  4. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 16 2018 07: 13
    0
    Yes, figs ....
  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 16 2018 09: 27
    +10
    But at the seam of all the tragedy, all questions and accusations, a total ringing irresponsibility and impunity passed. Everything else is just a good old attempt to hide shit under the carpet

    Dear East Wind, here it is a refrain of your article. I wrote and am writing that liberal capitalism and the oligarchy do not like personal responsibility! And since the power to feed on her hands, accordingly, the power will never go to the implementation of personal responsibility! Do not even hope. To introduce the principle of personal responsibility, it is necessary for a person to begin to change the power and vector of socio-economic development of Russia ..
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. April 16 2018 10: 39
      +1
      Capitalism is, first and foremost, a personal responsibility for the decisions made because one mistake and all! In the Soviet Union, it was possible not to take personal responsibility to the factory director knowing that he would get rid of reprimand and still let out bad products or the store director could be rude to the buyer using his thieves position!
      Which vector to change? again all in the social camps?
      1. odometer
        odometer April 16 2018 10: 48
        +6
        You don’t need all. And you and the like you would need ...
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. April 16 2018 11: 01
          +1
          Hardly! People like me, even under socialism, will live in a capital world, but people like you will be in the social camps!
          I am with both hands for returning to the USSR !!!!!!!!!! This is not connected with a love of the Soviet system, it’s very easy to get rich with total deficiency! I would probably become a member of the CPSU and the director of the store !!!
          And why us in camps and not you?
          You see how capitalism differs from socialism? The capitalists have no desire to put everyone in camps or shoot them, unlike socialists!
          1. odometer
            odometer April 16 2018 11: 47
            +1
            It’s not necessary to shoot. For “reforging”, to remote areas of Siberia and the Far East. To master “Far Eastern hectares.” Humpback from dawn to dawn.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 14: 57
            +4
            Quote: K.A.S.
            This is not connected with a love of the Soviet system, it’s very easy to get rich with total deficiency! I would probably become a member of the CPSU and the director of the store !!!

            I saw people like you, they traded all kinds of rubbish at flea markets. That's what you would become a member, I believe with pleasure.
            Quote: K.A.S.
            The capitalists have no desire to put everyone in camps or shoot them, unlike the socialists!

            Of course not. laughing The Americans came up with reservations, the British - concentration camps, the same Americans put all the Japanese there, the British sold them slaves from the convicted, good business.) What else would you be puzzled with? Maybe Australia, where the Angles all exiled? Or how did they come up with heroin?
            Quote: K.A.S.
            People like me, even under socialism, will live like in a cap world

            It can be seen. It would be interesting to see you in besieged Leningrad. Especially as a store director. Bread.
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              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 15: 15
                +1
                Quote: K.A.S.
                ! and work in the country wagon!

                And you, the capitalists, have organized a lot to work out this car? The British sold slaves - their citizens. Read about Captain Blood or something. Or take the French. Eternal wars between Catholics and Huguenots. One Bartholomew’s night is worth it.
                1. K.A.S.
                  K.A.S. April 16 2018 15: 24
                  +1
                  Feel free to ask! Was the Soviet Union in the days of Blood or Bartholomew’s night?
                  I am afraid that next time you will give the times of ancient Egypt or primitive societies to justify the excesses (hehe) of socialism! And from their experience prove that everything is fine!
                  About the work. Yes, many thousands of her for 30 can be found without straining, if anyone wants more, you can find and more all depends on qualifications and desires! How do migrants from the CIS find work?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 15: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: K.A.S.
                    Was the Soviet Union in the days of Blood or Bartholomew’s night?

                    Ah, give you more fresh! Will the US Civil War go?
                    Quote: K.A.S.
                    How do migrants from the CIS find work?

                    And you will see who finds her. And How. Those who are younger, for a black salary. My uncle, a pensioner, was looking for work for three years, but could not find it. He spat, and lives on one pension. And if we had a policy, as in Japan, why the hell would they find something. You know, foreigners are legally supposed to pay more than the Japanese, so they try to take the Japanese everywhere.
              2. free
                free April 16 2018 19: 43
                +1
                Quote: K.A.S.
                I saw people like you too! in Soviet Union! there are a lot of slogans, and the finale is the collapse of the USSR! because they don’t even know how to trade rubbish. and now there are plenty of them, they don’t want to work, they just shout how bad everything is !! and work in the country wagon!
                about the reservation and the concentration camp correctly noticed. I just forgot to clarify that for the British and Americans they were strangers. and people like you, the Communists sent their Russian concentration camps! and the communists dispensed with heroin in the genocide of the Russian people. hunger executions executions!
                And to look at you when they dispossessed and killed so you would come off!
                So how do you give for free the opportunity to have a thousand and how much the whole communistic idea flies into the toilet

                Konstantin will tell you a secret, nishtyaki give not to everyone.
          3. free
            free April 16 2018 19: 41
            +3
            Quote: K.A.S.
            Hardly! People like me, even under socialism, will live in a capital world, but people like you will be in the social camps!
            I am with both hands for returning to the USSR !!!!!!!!!! This is not connected with a love of the Soviet system, it’s very easy to get rich with total deficiency! I would probably become a member of the CPSU and the director of the store !!!
            And why us in camps and not you?
            You see how capitalism differs from socialism? The capitalists have no desire to put everyone in camps or shoot them, unlike socialists!

            You are a tradesman with petty-bourgeois views, and therefore under the USSR you could only be fertilizer. laughing
      2. Romey
        Romey April 16 2018 11: 08
        +3
        Quote: K.A.S.

        It was in the Soviet Union that one could not take personal responsibility to the plant director knowing that he would get rid of reprimand and still let out bad products

        Mdyayaya .... It is curious what Stalin would say about this. So I can imagine how he reprimands. And the late USSR also did not seem to be distinguished by such humanity. A.P. Bruchanov (Chernobyl director), for example, sat down for 10 years and was released only after 4 years ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 15: 04
          +2
          Quote: romey
          And the late USSR also did not seem to be distinguished by such humanity.

          You do not tell him about the director of the store Ocean only. And then there will be a phase shift. laughing
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. April 16 2018 15: 37
            +1
            I don’t have to talk about the directors of the ocean store since my aunt was the director of the store in Soviet times! Respect my man! And if I start telling you will have a pattern break and a phase shift because you will be shocked to learn that you could get several thousand rubles without working at the factory!
            You are like an adult and you believe in fairy tales!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 15: 49
              +2
              Quote: K.A.S.
              e, for you will be shocked to learn that you could get several thousand rubles without working at the factory!

              And even earlier there was such a fun office called OBHSS. Many store directors, at the sight of its employees, stuttered for some reason. laughing Why did you suddenly start to write with errors? Are you worried? Not worth it, do not take it to heart. laughing
              1. K.A.S.
                K.A.S. April 16 2018 19: 48
                +1
                How old do you believe in fairy tales? Have you ever wondered why many employees of the OBHSS easily switched to the market? Maybe they took and was the initial capital and communications?
                Your naivety goes wild why should the director shake if he has a debit of credit converges? And there are all the papers! You probably naively think that obkhss came and immediately shot the director? I will disappoint you! At first there was a check and if everything corresponded then there were no questions! And since the directors were familiar with many respected people: well, for example, the wife of the chairman of the district executive committee, questions could be resolved by phone! Do not write about what you have no idea !!! And the Soviet punishments of store directors are not a fight against the phenomenon, but to reassure people like you!
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 21: 11
                  0
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  Your naivety goes wild why should the director shake if he has a debit of credit converges? And there are all the papers!

                  laughing Well, by God, I have fun with you.
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  Well, for example, the wife of the chairman of the district executive committee, then the issues could be resolved by phone!

                  Alas, not everyone helped.
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  And the Soviet punishments of store directors are not a fight against the phenomenon, but to reassure people like you!

                  So be it. I calmed down when one of our saleswoman witches was given a condition. laughing She diluted such beer, and screamed forever.
                  1. K.A.S.
                    K.A.S. April 16 2018 21: 33
                    +2
                    Yes, and I'm not sad laughing ! it’s good when opponents to each other in a dispute raise their mood! Goodnight! hi
      3. bk316
        bk316 April 16 2018 12: 19
        +6
        Capitalism is, first and foremost, a personal responsibility for the decisions made because one mistake and all!

        WHAT ALL?
        And the fact that you lose money, maybe all the money should remain.

        THIS IS AND YOUR TOTAL UNDERSTANDING IS CONCLUDED IN WHICH YOU WANT TO SEND TO MINES.
        The main thing for you is money, the worst thing to lose is the highest responsibility is the responsibility for their amount. You even consider human lives through the prism of money, the Homeland also through the prism of money, the existence of humanity - through the prism of money. Is it possible to live like this, probably it is possible. Perhaps you can make sure that every life you ruined deprives you of all the money, so that you can make money only for the good of Russia, etc. But here in VO they don’t want it so much as the majority of the Russian population does not want it. They want to be honest, maybe it's a utopia or maybe a national idea. I do not know....
      4. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov April 16 2018 17: 40
        0
        [quote] Capitalism is, first and foremost, a personal responsibility for the decisions made because one mistake and all! In the Soviet Union, it was possible not to take personal responsibility to the factory director knowing that he would get rid of reprimand and still let out bad products or the store director could be rude to the buyer using his thieves position!
        Which vector to change? again all in the social camp? [/ quote
        smile Constantine, capitalism is, first of all, stuffing the capitalist’s belly. If he will shine 300% of the profit, he will spit on everything and on people and their safety. Reread Lenin and remember the Winter Cherry, the Lame Horse, etc.
        Why are social camps worse than camps? Both that and another infection. One must live by conscience and justice. And what will the 48th question be called
      5. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 April 16 2018 18: 39
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        Well, I do not. Capitalism is profit by any means and methods without reckoning with anything. The capitalist cannot have responsibility, the meaning of capitalism is only money.
        Those who did not live under socialism have nothing to say that which you do not know. Responsibility to the team was., The responsibility for the work done was not so rotten people, as now.
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        Quote: K.A.S.
        Capitalism is, first and foremost, a personal responsibility for the decisions made because one mistake and all! In the Soviet Union, it was possible not to take personal responsibility to the factory director knowing that he would get rid of reprimand and still let out bad products or the store director could be rude to the buyer using his thieves position!
        Which vector to change? again all in the social camps?
  6. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. April 16 2018 10: 19
    +3
    Stitch dummy author promoted! Before you go with the camera and tell your impressions about what you liked or didn't like, you need to not just take a picture like a sluggish texperdbloher, but tell what building code requirements and laws have been violated! What for example is the capacity of the stairs?
    I know how to get rid of the shopping center: you need to reduce the purchasing power of the population! Everyone will become poor and the shopping centers themselves will be closed!
    1. mar4047083
      mar4047083 April 16 2018 11: 22
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      Is there any stairs in the hall? Regarding getting rid of the mall, perhaps you should consider more radical methods, namely, about total getting rid of the population. No man, no problem. Everything else, the population is wrong. And he’ll shan, somewhere to stick his playful pens.
    2. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 April 16 2018 19: 25
      +1
      Quote: K.A.S.
      Stitch dummy author promoted! Before you go with the camera and tell your impressions about what you liked or didn't like, you need to not just take a picture like a sluggish texperdbloher, but tell what building code requirements and laws have been violated! What for example is the capacity of the stairs?
      I know how to get rid of the shopping center: you need to reduce the purchasing power of the population! Everyone will become poor and the shopping centers themselves will be closed!

      I don’t understand what this fascist is doing on a patriotic site? These shopping centers are essentially the same gas chambers, the difference from the Nazi ones is that people go there voluntarily, for a holiday, for a fee. But getting out alive from there is impossible in case of fire. If fascism was recognized as a crime against humanity, then modern shopping centers are just a manifestation of the "responsibility" of the capitalist. First encountered artificial intelligence in a living creature. As Putin once said: there is a skull, no brain.
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  7. tiaman.76
    tiaman.76 April 16 2018 10: 25
    +1
    that’s exactly a noisy shouting .. plant! shoot! and ... all somehow forgotten .. yes and just poher
  8. mar4047083
    mar4047083 April 16 2018 11: 09
    +1
    A small remark. SNiPs are no longer mandatory and are recommendatory in nature. Mandatory codes of practice are more stringent than SNiP, but who fulfills them? And the author very correctly noticed the simply "ingenious" planning decisions of the shopping center. Not a single normal, stationary staircase, a couple of elevators and escalators, in order to find a way out, you need to carefully study the building plan, and if one is found, it is not a fact that it will be open. Designers and customers obviously set themselves the task of ditching as many people as possible in case of state of emergency But if shopping and entertainment centers are at least somehow designed and controlled (sometimes, and usually on paper), then many residential buildings are not controlled at all, no way. Our most “humane” court in the world puts them into operation by the hundreds. Theater of absurdity - the court legitimizes illegal construction. You just think about this nonsense to legitimize the illegal. And everything gets away with it. You can’t “nightmare” a small business.
  9. bardadym
    bardadym April 16 2018 13: 20
    +5
    Bad, worthless article.
    The first part, about small-small business - well, approx.
    And for the second, with their own ideas and investigation on the spot - a severe failure.
    Grun’s transfer, for example, does not mean at all what they are trying to impose on him. This is not some kind of mythical hypnosis and control over consciousness. This is just an attempt to turn a banal and uninteresting store / shopping center in the countryside into a piece of the city, into an entertainment and cultural center. This is the "transfer", the transfer of a piece of the city to the village, nothing more. And all these theories about hypnosis, a white tile and a whisper in elevators are the nonsense of all kinds of marketers and merchandisers.
    Escalators and walking around the floor are irrelevant - neither escalators nor elevators are escape routes.
    SNiP and a children's room on the second floor - that's right. But there is a nuance. Almost all major shopping centers use the so-called STU in one way or another when designing and passing the examination - special technical conditions. And in the development of these STUs, a deviation from the norms can also be justified, of course, provided that the safety of people is maintained and compensatory measures are taken - additional evacuation exits, fire fighting, etc. So, strangely enough, the arrangement of children's rooms on the upper floors is quite possible. Questions only to the conscientiousness of performers.
    About evacuation exits in "Cherry" - well, you already google the floor plan, count the stairs. There are five of them, no less. And in this center in Novorossiysk, probably the same. Tight doors are also not just that, but so that they are not opened by air backwater in the stairwell. The width of the stairs is 1350 mm, judging by the tile, which complies with the standards. And you don’t have to "disperse" on it, you have to go down. All in one direction and not pushing. The doors in the photo are both double-winged.

    I am not trying to dissuade someone, or vice versa, to blame. But, people, before sucking out revealing articles, you should at least learn a little about the subject. Or even turn on your head. Otherwise, it’s just PR for blood.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. April 16 2018 14: 35
      +2
      You write too hard! This is not for local bloggers and experts! Do they have no time to do research? Is it important to show their importance?
    2. 82т11
      82т11 April 16 2018 15: 05
      +3
      I agree with you that the author is distorting, but is it a nonsense to check the fire safety for a 4-story building?
  10. zenion
    zenion April 16 2018 14: 07
    +2
    In general, around the office of "Horns and Hooves" and power is being visited there, only after everything that goes crashing.
    1. Romey
      Romey April 16 2018 17: 53
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      Quote: zenion
      In general, around the office of "Horns and Hooves" and power is being visited there, only after everything that goes crashing.

      Not certainly in that way. Power is being wound up before. But only in order to get money and step aside.
  11. Radikal
    Radikal April 16 2018 17: 28
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    Quote: K.A.S.
    I saw people like you too! in Soviet Union! there are a lot of slogans, and the finale is the collapse of the USSR! because they don’t even know how to trade rubbish. and now there are plenty of them, they don’t want to work, they just shout how bad everything is !! and work in the country wagon!
    about the reservation and the concentration camp correctly noticed. I just forgot to clarify that for the British and Americans they were strangers. and people like you, the Communists sent their Russian concentration camps! and the communists dispensed with heroin in the genocide of the Russian people. hunger executions executions!
    And to look at you when they dispossessed and killed so you would come off!
    So how do you give for free the opportunity to have a thousand and how much the whole communistic idea flies into the toilet

    Listen to you, shopkeeper! There is no need to hide behind and touch the Russians, because shopkeepers like you (incidentally, like terrorists) have no nationality! You, all have one nationality - the shopkeeper! sad
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  13. Dashing
    Dashing April 16 2018 20: 13
    +4
    Yes, the authorities spat on their citizens. So, we made a noise for the effect and calmed down. Here, in the city of Miass, after convulsive checks, screeches, howling and loyal reports, the ceiling in the Elephant shopping and entertainment center failed, crushed a woman, other visitors accidentally escaped. Here are the realities for you.
  14. Mavr-85
    Mavr-85 April 18 2018 05: 20
    +1
    Quote: ROSS 42
    the population of the region decreased by 500

    What nonsense: stop carrying misinformation
  15. Galleon
    Galleon April 19 2018 17: 04
    +2
    The article is stupid and boring, the comments are much more interesting. The main thing is the topic! Theme is passionate - only shreds of commentators fly through the nooks and cranks of someone’s bite-over bones. People, wake up! Although the author writes about the “Grün shift”, he himself shifts you to debates and insults! And you are glad to get your hands on keyboards and languages. Oh, countrymen, countrymen ...