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How to lose the war before it starts

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The unceasing nagging of the military omnipotence of the enemy is no better than the rampant hats and moods.




I never thought that in our Fatherland there are as many military experts, as it turned out in recent days. Not to mention American specialists the fleet. They make round eyes and announce with significance in their voices: they already have two destroyers and 60 cruise missiles on each one, off the coast of Syria! And the third is on the way! And even an aircraft carrier with cruisers will soon arrive in time. Mamma Mia! This is such a force! America, in a word! Where are we, the poor and the wretched! As they crave, so from that Syria some lumps will fly! And all of our air defense there, even these 120 "Tomahawks" "will not intercept." In general, extinguish the light, drain fuel oil and start negotiations. About what? Of surrender, of course!

I want to tell something to these thinkers, for whom America is always the most intelligent, strong and beautiful, almost like Trump has his rocket.

The first. Let these missiles be not even 120, and all five hundred. So what? Multiply 500 pieces by approximately 500 kg of explosives in each. We get to the circle 250 tons of something like trinitrotoluene.

For reference: to Vietnam American aviation during the war in Indochina, it dropped about 3 (three) million tons of bombs and missiles! Many of which were also quite manageable and relatively high-precision. And what is the result? And such that America with its Vietnam war managed so thoroughly that then for ten whole years it did not go anywhere. For fell into a deep depression.

And then some 250 tons! And then, if you still gain the whole 500 "Tomahawks" in the volley! Kuram to laugh! As for the expert oracle, which is mandatory in such cases, about the fact that they are not some, but highly accurate, I will say this. All these extremely smart missiles that, according to legend, can even fly into the precisely indicated small window, are good only when striking fixed targets with previously explored coordinates. Well, there, for example, at some power station or embassy. As it was in Belgrade with the Chinese diplomatic mission. Using the "Tomahawks" to chase the troops that were withdrawn into the open field or their military equipment is absolutely empty. And since the Syrian command and the entire army are not so stupid as to sit in winter apartments at such a time and wait for the American Ax to fall on their heads, we conclude that there is someone who will, and the armed forces of Syria will suffer less with such a blow Total.

No, of course, some part of "Tomahawks" still fly and hit. With the formation of large holes and cracks on the facades of some buildings. So, what is next? What does all this facade damage to the military defeat of Syria? Yes, absolutely no! Because with such a scanty ammunition it is possible to incapacitate, unless, a separately standing barn. But not the whole country.

And yes, by the way, about the barn, too, is not quite sure. In any case, the last time the 59 missiles were officially launched at the Shirath air base in the same Syria and, as they say at the Pentagon, they all flew to the target. It would be better if they didn’t say that, because that same airbase remained quite alive for it after that. What tells us that these "Tomahawks" even in the number of dozens, like weapon, absolute bullshit.

But this is not the most important thing. And the main thing is that with air strikes, wars do not benefit in principle. From the word at all. Well, there has not been such a case in the world stories. And, most likely, will not. The fact is that a country, and any country, is a pretty extensive thing. And the possibilities of those who are trying to “cultivate” this huge space with the help of conventional bombs and rockets, so to speak in the square-nesting way, are quite limited. And this is to say the least!

We have already reminded about Vietnam. In Germany and Japan, the Anglo-Saxons dropped a few less bombs, but also more than one million tons. And what would you think? By the middle of 1944, the volume of military production in Germany for all major indicators increased about three times compared with the period before the start of the so-called “carpet bombing”.

And this is in densely populated Germany, where the military factories stood literally wall to wall. As they say, I do not want a bomb! What to speak about semi-desert Syria, where, in general, there is nothing much to bomb.

To defeat such a country, and indeed over any other country that values ​​its freedom, bombings and rocket attacks alone are not enough. The country is not only extensive, but also very tenacious. Especially if she has been fighting for five years. Because I got used to it. And she will not be frightened not only by the Finnish knife, but also by the American “ax”.

In order to subdue such a country, you need something much more than the banal throwing of bombs and rockets. In short, we need a land operation. Such that the soldier of the invading army, trampled every foot of local land with his boot and stepped on the throat of every local patriot and hater of America. For if it does not come, will get a bullet.

And it will be very, very difficult for the West to do this. Because he doesn’t like to fight as a passion, as all normal people fight - wall to wall, on the battlefield, with the rivers of their own blood flowing from this fact. Western armies and, above all, of course, American, they are not even armies in the usual sense of the word, but such clubs for their own interests. Where are all sorts of mercantile citizens, concerned not so much with feats in the name of the fatherland, as a personal, selfish question. Someone needs to save up money for college, someone to get citizenship, and some even preferential dental insurance will not hurt. And the dead, as we know, neither teeth, nor education, nor even money for nothing is needed. Therefore, all these countless crowds of businessmen in military uniforms committed are not going to die either in general or, all the more, for some abstract ideals.

That is why the American army suffered a fiasco in almost all the wars it had ever waged. And especially after the Second World War. With the exception of rocket attacks on certain morally worn states, such as Yugoslavia and Iraq, the American army was washing its hands with a bloody bitch everywhere where it met with any serious resistance. Korea, Vietnam, even Iraq with Afghanistan, where they still get their tails and manes - this is evident evidence of this. Such a “business-army” can only beautifully and quite triumphantly fight on a Hollywood screen.

In general, the land, contact war on its own - this is definitely not about America and not about the entire pampered West. And they already tried to send in front of themselves crowds of all kinds of dirty barmaley. And nothing came of it. Right now, the Syrians and Russians are chattering the latter. And if the US marines, globally distributed all over the world, are so proud on their cruise vessels in the middle of the ocean, they will try to go to some local beach, they will be exactly the same meat grinder that went to their ancestors on the Gallipoli Peninsula on World War I. By the way, this place is very close to Syria. So the “tanned nape” will have something to remember before they zapper along the route “from here and into eternity”.

With all this in mind, it is absolutely incomprehensible to me, on which all the present lamentations about the imaginary invincibility of America are based, which, they say, in one stroke with seven kills. I see no reason for this. Unless, of course, this is not the basic desire to quickly surrender to captivity, where, as you know, a whole box of cookies and a barrel of jam are waiting for everyone.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 05: 49
    +15
    In principle, the author is right ... America is not so scary and you can fight off it! And they won’t make direct military contact, the gut is weak.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana April 15 2018 06: 26
      +14
      MIKHAN
      In principle, the author is right ..
      Of course, in general, the author is right! I especially liked this statement of his ..
      For reference: during the war in Indochina, American aviation dropped about 3 (three) million tons of bombs and missiles to Vietnam! Many of which were also quite manageable and relatively accurate. And what is the result? And such that that America managed it with its Vietnamese war so thoroughly that it didn't go anywhere for ten years. For fell into a deep depression.


      I immediately remembered the Soviet folk song "Fanton", which they hate in the USA.



      I run on scorched earth
      Hermeshlem slammed on the go.
      My Phantom with a white arrow on a spread wing
      With a roar gaining altitude.

      I see the turning blue distance -
      Breaking this is just a pity.
      It’s a pity that you don’t see her! Our path is difficult and far.
      My Phantom rushes east.

      I make a left turn
      I am now an executioner, not a pilot:
      I bend over the scope and the missiles rush towards the target.
      Ahead of another run.

      I see a white line in the sky -
      My Phantom is losing altitude.
      Catapult - that's the salvation! And on the slings - tension
      My heart is at heels: I'm going to a corkscrew.

      Just landed, in an instant
      A wild cry rang out from the bushes:
      Yellow-faced Vietnamese screech in the bushes, like hares.
      I fell to the ground and fell silent.

      Walking on the cursed land again.
      There is no helmet on the head.
      Soldiers poke me at the back with a machine gun
      My life is hanging by a thread.

      "Who is the pilot who shot me down?", -
      I asked one Vietnamese.
      Answered me that slant that he commanded the interrogation:
      "Our pilot Li-Si-Tsyn brought you down."

      It is you, the Vietnamese, lying for nothing!
      I clearly heard in the headset:
      "Kolya, press, and I'll cover!" - "Vanya, hit, and I'll cover!"
      Russian ace Ivan hit me.

      Somewhere in the distance, native Texas,
      At home, my father and mother are waiting for me.
      My Phantom exploded quickly in the blue and clear sky -
      I can’t see you anymore ...
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 15 2018 06: 29
        +29
        Quote: Tatiana
        I immediately remembered the song of the unknown author "Fanton" ...

        He is not a phanton, but a phantom. Like, not to see him - is he, or not yet?
        And in general - is it IN, a kindergarten or a site for pop fans? The song is, well, extremely crap request
        Quote: Tatiana
        ... which they hate in the USA

        Something tells me that in the USA they simply don’t know about this song ...
        (thoughtfully): it looks like a kindergarten recourse
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana April 15 2018 06: 47
          +5
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Something tells me that in the USA they simply don’t know about this song ...

          Ha! It is possible that now the Americans have already managed to forget the little war in Vietnam, except for McCain!

          I like this version of Phantom more.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 15 2018 06: 50
            +7
            Quote: Tatiana
            This version of Phantom

            Infantile militarism. For older boys and, ahem ... well, okay.
            Quote: Tatiana
            I like more

            (thoughtfully): for sure - kindergarten ...
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana April 15 2018 07: 24
              +11
              Golovan Jack (Roman)
              Infantile militarism. For older boys and, ahem ... well, okay.
              (thoughtfully): for sure - kindergarten ...

              stop Ha! lol May you, Roman, kick my cheerfulness on Sunday morning with your "skepticism"! drinks
              The song is what you need! The video is excellent and the case has been created! yes
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 15 2018 07: 25
                +3
                Quote: Tatiana
                in the morning with my "skepticism"

                Tatyana. there are just no complaints against you love
                Quote: Tatiana
                The song is what you need

                Damn ... the taste, the color ... okay request
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana April 15 2018 07: 40
                  +4
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Damn ... the taste, the color ... okay

                  With "taste and color" ... - here I agree with you!
                  However, in this case, the song “Phantom” by music and text was composed by the Soviet military guys in Vietnam very “lively” and very business-like! yes
                  Well, the video for this song is also quite on the merits!
                  So kindergarten here still does not smell! But only the "Internet" gives a little! drinks
          2. gorenina91
            gorenina91 April 15 2018 10: 00
            +3
            - Yes ... - Also not the best ... -Spoiled Siskin cool hit ...
            1. Julio Jurenito
              Julio Jurenito April 16 2018 10: 58
              0
              If you knew what UG this song is in the original .... It is not about the phantom and not about the war - this is the anthem of the reference TP on the theme "Yabagin". Those who wish can find the text on the net, only if it is necessary ...

              And about a phantom it was already invented in Russia.
          3. 72jora72
            72jora72 April 16 2018 06: 08
            +2
            After the war ended, the DRV received 550 tanks, 1200 armored personnel carriers, 1100 aircraft, 500 helicopters, and 80 US ships as trophies.
        2. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn April 15 2018 07: 05
          +2
          Interesting about kindergarten, creative. - Many combat aircraft, according to the results of their use, either turned out to be forgotten for their low qualities, or became real legends, which even people who have no relation to aviation know about. The latter include, for example, our IL-2, and much later American Phantom aircraft. Perhaps this is the most famous of all American aircraft from 1960-1980, and its name for many years has become a household name for all US Air Force fighters.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 15 2018 07: 08
            +7
            Quote: nov_tech.vrn
            Interesting about kindergarten, creative ...

            I'm talking about a song if you misunderstood. The song is a baloney trash, continue?
            The mention of the Phantom in it (even repeated) does not do it better.
            "Kindergarten" is the level of discussion involving (like an "indestructible argument") similar, ahem, songs.
            I get it? wink
            1. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn April 15 2018 08: 36
              +13
              This is street poetry and street songs, more than one thousand children studied playing them on the guitar, and hanging labels, from your point of view of today, is incorrect to put it mildly ...
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 15 2018 08: 40
                +3
                Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                not one thousand children studied playing them on a guitar

                There are three chords - the whole song, what can you learn there?
                Nothing good request
                1. nov_tech.vrn
                  nov_tech.vrn April 15 2018 10: 01
                  +9
                  if you listen, you first finished the music, and then on the street somewhere shone on the canal, and Vladimir Semyonovich for you trash galim
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 15 2018 13: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                    if you listen, you first finished the music, and then on the street somewhere on the canal shone

                    Ahem ... puzzled, creepy laughing
                    Well, yes, the musician, for 7 years, fans haven’t been forgotten just like that, even after almost half a century belay
                    About the "ditch" - probably misunderstood, but at the school-institute - yes, a shaky guitarist, there were a lot of different bards then. Nikitin at least something straightforward from the film pick up? And I know how easy wink
                    “Phantom”, which is characteristic, did not hear in those days (and Shpaka did not take).
                    Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                    Yes, and Vladimir Semenovich for you

                    Vysotsky is great, and so far no one has come up with better.
                    To equate some phantoms here ... negative
                    1. nov_tech.vrn
                      nov_tech.vrn April 15 2018 13: 49
                      +3
                      I didn’t go far beyond three chords, but thanks to our country for free education and sports!
              2. Igor V
                Igor V April 15 2018 11: 44
                +1
                Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                This is street poetry and street songs, more than one thousand children studied playing them on the guitar, and hanging labels, from your point of view of today, is incorrect to put it mildly ...

                Not STREET, but YARD. This style is so naive and yard. And some people began to earn money on our backyard songs. It’s ridiculous.
            2. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum April 15 2018 09: 30
              +16
              Golovan Jack: Infantile Militarism

              Maybe one of the respected members of the forum knows and will say how long this dog by nickname Golovan Jack, apparently miserable and not serving at all, will offend army folklore?
              What, Golovan? Offended a lot and often in childhood? Or still hurt? I am sure there is a reason.

              For reference. In the 1990's, this song was very popular in Chechnya and in Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia.
              Ah, you - Golovan, you don’t understand this ...
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 15 2018 12: 03
                +5
                Tpruuu ... hot finnish guy stop
                We decide on the subject of conversation for a start: we are talking about the Chizh video, which is respected Tatyana for some reason laid out here. Hop?
                Quote: Pax tecum
                to you - Golovan, you don’t understand this

                Golovan, unlike you, the little red riding hood, has at least some, but the same musical education. From childhood yet. And quite able to distinguish good from bad.
                Quote: Pax tecum
                In the 1990s, this song was very popular with us both in Chechnya and in Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia.

                Oo-oo-oo-oo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oowe had".
                That fuck you kill me against the wall - Remba is not defined in you. Well, no way.
                The dirty trickster - yes, clearly visible. Military sofa - also visible. But Remba - somehow, no, sorry request
                Other - not interesting. Ham is ham, chёzhutam yes
              2. Setrac
                Setrac April 16 2018 20: 17
                +4
                Quote: Pax tecum
                Maybe one of the respected members of the forum knows and will say how long this dog by nickname Golovan Jack, apparently miserable and not serving at all, will offend army folklore?

                God-chosen each other mercilessly plus, and then naively think that they are indeed generals.
          2. Humungus
            Humungus April 15 2018 17: 00
            +1
            My answer. "Aerocobra", a great plane, which was appreciated by all our asses in the war. But the Americans and the British, they did not like him, it was too difficult to manage. Nvshy achieved outstanding success on them. But the Anglo-Saxons, no.
            Tell me at least one American or Englishman that shot down at least 10 enemy aircraft ...
            1. albert
              albert April 15 2018 18: 03
              +4
              Quote: Humungus
              tell me at least one American or Englishman that shot down at least 10 enemy aircraft ...

              Richard Bong, for example, shot down 40 aircraft. They have many aces, do not underestimate the enemy.
              1. Humungus
                Humungus 1 June 2018 01: 21
                0
                He could write at least 200 in his memoirs .... well, that’s nonsense, he has fewer departures ....
        3. tv70
          tv70 April 15 2018 13: 06
          +2
          Well, in general, it’s not crap, but the old Soviet courtyard, another thing CIZH quail a little, although I heard several options. And you, dear, you have lived in an incubator, or you live, since you don’t know such a little.
        4. Supervisor
          Supervisor April 15 2018 17: 47
          +1
          And what are you, “Jack” (!) Chizha recorded in pop music? Have you heard about Russian Rock, though?
        5. Setrac
          Setrac April 16 2018 20: 14
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And in general - is it IN, a kindergarten or a site for pop fans?

          In general, this song does not apply to pop music.
      2. Humungus
        Humungus 1 June 2018 02: 03
        0
        "Bay of pigs" how?
    2. populist
      populist April 15 2018 07: 05
      +6
      That is why the American army suffered a fiasco in almost all the wars it has ever waged.

      MIKHAN (Vitaliy)
      In principle, the author is right

      I am not a supporter of the Amer army and the USA, but we must really look at history and modernity wink
      The American army won most wars and military expeditions, especially for the most significant and world wars. sad
      Shabokozakateli I advise you to sit down for historical literature. True, there is also a need to think ... belay
      1. SOF
        SOF April 15 2018 08: 47
        +13
        Quote: populist
        The American army won most wars and military expeditions, especially for the most significant and world wars.

        ... belay ... figass ... I didn’t seem to skip history ... and we didn’t have an exam.
        There were only two world wars. Which of them won the three hundred year old geographic neoplasm?
        Grenada, I can remember how a victorious operation. Who else won - Yugoslavia? - debatable, they did everything themselves. Iraq? Well, they have not yet won. Afghan - there is still a long win there, but it’s easier to get out of there.
        In which books, when carefully read, did you find the great victorious history of the United States?
        1. glasha3032
          glasha3032 April 19 2018 23: 44
          0
          Grenada is not a very successful example of a victorious US operation, even more so. It is the most deafening failure. When the country's air defense. Consisting of 5 ZU-23 and 8 DShK during the reflection of the landing assault shot down (completely!) 8 enemy helicopters and damaged 3 aircraft and 6 helicopters. 17 soldiers of Grenada and 2 officers from Cuba were killed in the fighting. American casualties -19 killed and 116 wounded ...
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich April 15 2018 07: 15
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In principle, the author is right ...

      He is right in principle, but not in detail
      1 In Yugoslavia, the West defeated WITHOUT ground forces
      2. In Galipoli, the Americans never taught a neck,
      3.KR, of course, they will not destroy the country, but its infrastructure can quite well, and without it the country is not a very country ....
      1. yuriyselivanov
        April 15 2018 09: 19
        +7
        1. And apparently Martians invaded Kosovo. Or is it not part of Yugoslavia?
        2. The ancestors of the American Marine Corps, in a broad sense, are all Anglo-Saxons in the world.
        3. Such "not very country" 90% on the globe. Including and the Russian Federation. So put them on your CD. They must be afraid of the West itself.
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 15 2018 13: 29
      +8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In principle, the author is right ... America is not so scary and you can fight off it! And they won’t make direct military contact, the gut is weak.

      The power of the United States in Hollywood, and the nagging "all-scuffle" is based on Hollywood films.
      1. The_X_Factor
        The_X_Factor April 15 2018 14: 36
        +3
        Since they were able to create such a Hollywood, then they’re probably good for something, right? Probably not such a weak opponent?
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 14: 51
          +2
          Quote: The_X_Factor
          Since they were able to create such a Hollywood, then they’re probably good for something, right? Probably not such a weak opponent?

          Us Russians in their films are always represented by mafiosi and scary guys .. heh heh ..
          But they do not know the most important weapon in the Russian rear!

          We are calm for our rear areas have always been .. heh heh
          And calmly fought .. soldier
          1. The_X_Factor
            The_X_Factor April 15 2018 21: 04
            +2
            Russians themselves understand in their films who the hell they represent. Say, even a shot with state money, not to mention private ones, there is not a single normal film about the Russian armed forces. But it is possible! For example, in the recent “Crimea”, which I even went to the movies (MDA), the only normal scenes are those where warriors are present in one form or another.
        2. 97110
          97110 April 17 2018 20: 14
          0
          Quote: The_X_Factor
          Since they were able to create such a Hollywood

          I read somewhere lately that Odessa Jews created Hollywood ... Even with the names of the creators of all twentis centric foxes. There was a time when all sorts of Hollywood brawlers confessed their descent from the Russian Mongols from Vladik ...
    5. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 15 2018 20: 11
      +3
      There were no lamentations about the invincibility of America; there was disappointment with inaction and idle talk. Selivanov, as always, wrote absolutely not in essence, but with Komsomol enthusiasm.
    6. G A_2
      G A_2 April 18 2018 11: 51
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In principle, the author is right ... America is not so scary and you can fight off it! And they won’t make direct military contact, the gut is weak.

      Everyone is afraid of mutual destruction
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 18 2018 12: 10
        0
        Quote: G A_2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In principle, the author is right ... America is not so scary and you can fight off it! And they won’t make direct military contact, the gut is weak.

        Everyone is afraid of mutual destruction

        But Russia is not afraid ... we, by our soul essence, will not be able to live as consumers, as the world government intended! Better death than such a life ..
        And the "Perimeter", according to the United States "Dead Hand", our scientists did not come up with nothing .. The whole world is in ruins! But without Russia it’s not the world .. soldier Something no one wants to negotiate with us .. But their problems!
  2. Skip
    Skip April 15 2018 05: 50
    0
    Trollism is our mustache, but I will subscribe to every word)))
  3. Vard
    Vard April 15 2018 05: 52
    +7
    I fully support the author’s point of view ... All US victories ... these are their media ...
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 16 2018 20: 20
      0
      Quote: Vard
      I fully support the author’s point of view ... All US victories ... these are their media ...

      So why invest in the army, let's invest in mass media?
      1. Vard
        Vard April 17 2018 08: 17
        0
        Feel the difference ... our victories lie around Damascus ...
  4. Strashila
    Strashila April 15 2018 05: 59
    +1
    The Americans will intensely begin to feed the Golden Donkey ... in fact, he brought all the victories in recent military conflicts .... if this can actually be considered victories, basically everything is based on PR.
  5. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 15 2018 07: 08
    +15
    And what is a "victory"? "Victory" is the achievement of a goal. And what are the “goals” of the USA when they begin aggression? 1-the overthrow of the existing government, building, 2-the destruction of the state economy of its political institutions, 3-subsequent economic robbery of the state, 4-subsequent economic and political enslavement of the destroyed state, removing it from the world political arena, make it another vote for it in UN, etc. These are plans under the letter "A". If something doesn’t work out, or if the prospects for using a crushed state do not bring any tangible “profit,” the United States will implement Plan B — leave behind a crushed territory divided into warring enclaves torn by internal contradictions and profit from selling to different groups weapons and equipment in order to spend the resources of the defeated state on an endless civil war. And which of these goals did the USA not achieve after the end of the Vietnam War and rethinking its results? Now, the US is always on track.
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 April 15 2018 07: 28
      +11
      This is the difference that many do not understand. The pawn and even the queen are not important, but the checkmate is important in the end. And couch experts with a checker need to understand that:
      1. There is no direct collision yet. That's when at least one bomb falls in the Russian Federation, then nuclear weapons will fly in response and all that is possible. And the purpose of participation in Syria is precisely so that not a single bomb falls in the Russian Federation. But no one has a dispute anymore.
      2. Even in a direct encounter, strategy is important for victory. In history, Moscow has been surrendered more than once in order to win. What also screwed up then? And before whom?
      3. By humiliating the MO and your commander in chief, you give the ground for the gloating of the Western forces, their media and play into their hands. Because not only BV is important to them, but more that the rating of your president falls.
      4. The aggressors in this case are the United States and we need to work in this direction. The whole world is not only the West.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac April 16 2018 20: 22
        +1
        Quote: Azim77
        That's when at least one bomb falls in the Russian Federation, then nuclear weapons will fly in response and all that is possible.

        From one bomb (non-nuclear) nuclear missiles will not fly in response, I will tell you more, from one sunk American destroyer nuclear missiles will not fly back.
    2. saigon
      saigon April 15 2018 07: 47
      +1
      According to Sun Tzu, victory is the world of the ray before the military, so where did the ray become after the mericos?
      Either the theory is wrong or the mattress is not winning.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac April 16 2018 20: 24
        +2
        Quote: saigon
        According to Sun Tzu, victory is the world of the ray before the military, so where did the ray become after the mericos?

        Who is this Sun Tzu that you refer to him so often?
        He defeated many enemies and knows a lot about victories? His reasoning about the war is that of the blind man about the rainbow.
        1. saigon
          saigon April 17 2018 18: 19
          0
          In general, the treatise of Sun Tzu is still being studied at military institutions in China and Japan, and the list goes on.
          Man in the era of the Warring States formulated the basic postulates of the vision of war.
          Having the shoulder straps of the general, you should probably know about him (at least for general development) all the same
          military-themed site.
          And he won often, probably you can always say.
          Reading for a modern person is rather complicated at the beginning, however, everything is stated more simply and more clearly than among theoreticians of the 19-20 centuries (Clausewitz, Galaktionov for example)
          1. Setrac
            Setrac April 17 2018 23: 49
            0
            Quote: saigon
            In general, the treatise of Sun Tzu is still being studied at military institutions in China.

            Apparently therefore, they cannot defeat anyone.
            Quote: saigon
            And he won often, probably you can always say.

            Only on the pages of their books.
  6. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub April 15 2018 07: 25
    +12
    Another article about stupid enemies. As the saying goes: If you are so smart, why so poor? I don’t think that everything is so simple. The point is not the blunt casting of the desert with Axes, but the solution of their geopolitical issues and internal problems, how effectively they solve them, this is another matter. I agree that the opponents are not great at all, but you don’t need to make fools of them, they scored on everyone and on everything and do what they need and there is nothing to oppose to us in this situation, except resentment.
    1. yuriyselivanov
      April 15 2018 09: 21
      +4
      Hitler also scored on everyone and everything. And remained in the cold.
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    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 15 2018 07: 36
      +9
      Quote: Dr. Hub
      Half of the comments about the song. The article is not about ChiZh

      Just an article worse than a song request
      1. AUL
        AUL April 15 2018 16: 28
        0
        I agree with Golovan (for the first time! belay ) on both points!
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 15 2018 20: 12
        0
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: Dr. Hub
        Half of the comments about the song. The article is not about ChiZh

        Just an article worse than a song request

        I will not recognize you.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 15 2018 20: 13
          0
          Quote: lis-ik
          I will not recognize you

          And I am you. So what? belay
  8. foxic
    foxic April 15 2018 07: 56
    +5
    Or maybe it's time to join the shelling of chemical plants, the poison from which was used in England and Syria .......

    In Syria, found packaging from England. In the blood of the Skripals, the Swiss found a component from BZ ......

    Where and in which countries they are made known. Maybe it's time? .....
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 15 2018 08: 34
    +3
    There are two types of people on the site - those who are ready with their hands while sitting at a computer to tear the enemy into rags, and those who are ready with a white flag to prostrate themselves before the occupier, thank God there are few of them. But they are. Syria’s attack yesterday showed that the information content of the war is even higher than the concrete results of the war itself. Due to the fact that our military was silent for a long time (I'm talking about the Ministry of Defense of the country), programmers who wished to hear the authorities' answer took the upper hand on the site. There was no answer, there was a slurred mumble, so now in terms of information you need to look for alternative sources, and more often train in shooting, running, throwing grenades - get ready for a war on your territory, because after a shame, we will find war, and this is inevitable!
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 April 15 2018 09: 51
      +3
      It would be interesting to just hear the answer from respected readers of VO - "pragmatists", namely the military. An essay on the topic: if I were the president. And further moves, as in chess. For example:
      White: Drowned Cook, “landed” a couple of planes (?).
      transition transition.
      Black: Inflicted attacks on Russian air defense points, on bases ..
      transition transition.
      White: further options ..

      Without any miracles and magic, and playing Chapaev.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 15 2018 10: 14
        +5
        Well, their ships and planes would be sunk and shot down - they then drove a couple more AUGs into the Mediterranean Sea - to those already going to the Persian Gulf - and would roll everything in Syria, from their air defense to our bases that will have to be urgently evacuated, in view of further problems supplies - the result of the expulsion of all diplomats from the United States, as well as them from Russia, a complete breakdown of all agreements starting from the INF Treaty ending with START 3, Russia's exit from the UN, and then the more severe economic and political blockade of Russia will begin.
      2. Fedor egoist
        Fedor egoist April 15 2018 11: 20
        +1
        Quote: Azim77
        It would be interesting to just hear the answer from respected readers of VO - "pragmatists", namely the military. Composition on the topic: if I were the president. And further moves, as in chess.

        Here is an article on the topic (as far back as 2017), the author amusingly states:
        https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2268437.html
        And continued:
        https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2269630.html
        https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2269941.html
        https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2270893.html
      3. TOR2
        TOR2 April 15 2018 19: 09
        0
        Quote: Azim77
        Black: Inflicted attacks on Russian air defense points, on bases ..
        transition transition.
        White: further options ..
        Without any miracles and magic, and playing Chapaev

        Iran is with us in the same boat and they will not want to jump into the sea with sharks, because they will be eaten by the next. From the waters of the Caspian Sea from ships and from the territory of Iran from the board of strategists strike KR. "Gauges" demolish TSU space operations in the region. Heavy UAVs can no longer fly. The 5th fleet strikes Iran. Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz with anti-ship mines. The battle begins between the 5th fleet and the Navy + Iranian coastal complexes. Strategic but already anti-ship missiles reappear over Iranian territory, a second wave of greetings flies from the Caspian. A pair of mattress vessels goes to the bottom. The price per barrel soars up in the skies and barges all over the world begin to fever.
        The Swiss Foreign Ministry, as a neutral country, is ready to provide intermediary services. Their diplomats urgently fly to Moscow and Washington.
    2. askme
      askme April 15 2018 16: 18
      +4
      Amazing people, the "pragmatists" are called hysterical gopnik trolls, who filled the site with screams ...

      In fact, the MO responded within a few hours after the attacks: missiles went far from Russian troops in Syria. No one was injured in the blows. That is, Russia had no reason to bring down carriers. Nobody drained anything. And most importantly, the Moscow Region responded: Russia will return to S-300 shipments to Syria. These are the words of a particular general staff officer, not a balabol.

      The rest can hysteria further. By hysteria, professional VO trolls and stupid people are easily recognized. Only one thing is correct: information blow. It was inflicted by the USA (100 axes is a sham). And Russia also answered it informatively - at the UN and many more elsewhere. The answer is now being formed most powerful. S-300 is only part of it ..
  10. Dashing
    Dashing April 15 2018 09: 10
    +3
    There was such a bike in the nineties - There is a meeting with US President Clinton. The head of the CIA concludes his report: - "... Thus, Russia today is insignificant as a state and as an army - everything is ruined." After listening, Clinton concludes: - "There is no economy, no army. What are we bothering with, let's just grab them, and that’s it! Is it all FOR?" “We are FOR,” the Pentagon chief answers, “but there are two people who are against. And their opinion exceeds our absolutely. "" Who are they? "The president was indignant." Academician Kurchatov and academician Sakharov! "
    I think that the Americans will always have a thin gut against our academics, past, present, and future, and this is not hat-tapping sentiment, but a "medical fact."
  11. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 15 2018 09: 59
    +5
    Yuri! Your thoughts are absolutely nice to me! But you are completely in vain ironic about the moaners, whom in recent times have bred — bring them numbers! And this is not a joke! There is a powerful layer of the fifth column, which was formed under the influence of all types and forms of propaganda and recruitment, carried out, probably, not only by special services. It is clear that most of these “experts” are unlikely to tear their backs from their sofas (well, if only, to the nearest ATM?), But they can please anyone with dust and dirt on anyone! Especially in the conditions of some hour "H". And this is a war crime! Panic, gossip, rumors, just blatant lies (as is the case with the Kemerovo "Winter Cherry"!) - in wartime they were punished by execution! It was thanks to this column that partbases were unsealed from the pedestal of the USSR! And he collapsed without much difficulty! We do not need such repetitions !!! So it is not necessary to be surprised, but to carry out powerful counter-propaganda (by the way, one of the forms of psychological warfare!)! And the main front today passes, to the point of banality, in the fields of information warfare, it is from there that not the vertical sanctions fly in, but the Tomahawks behind them! And these “subchiki”, receiving bourgeois cookies and preserves, must always and regularly be reminded that an art grenade flew to Plohish at the end of the performance and the ceiling collapsed on a brainless head! (maybe out of place, but one involuntarily recalls General Kornilov, who arrested the imperial family on the days of universal betrayal, and his unusual death — one grenade, one small fragment in the temple! Mysticism?).
    1. shinobi
      shinobi April 15 2018 12: 08
      +2
      The methods of dealing with the fifth column in wartime and in emergency situations are simple, worked out in civilian times, showed excellent results in the Patriotic War, and are still used today. As soon as the fifth column poses the slightest real threat to our government, they immediately turn its head away. Previously, it was more difficult to identify such people, whispering in kitchens and cafes. Now it’s easier, they are specially left with sedimentation tanks such as the ECA of Moscow. They are stupid in their mass basis. Even the State Department manuals can not really use mattresses.
  12. Old Michael
    Old Michael April 15 2018 10: 16
    +1
    To the author - Thank you!
    It's nice to start Sunday with something peppy.
    Special thanks for the careful handling of the great and powerful!
  13. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 15 2018 10: 17
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Damn ... the taste, the color ... okay

    With "taste and color" ... - here I agree with you!
    However, in this case, the song “Phantom” by music and text was composed by the Soviet military guys in Vietnam very “lively” and very business-like! yes
    Well, the video for this song is also quite on the merits!
    So kindergarten here still does not smell! But only the "Internet" gives a little! drinks


    I don’t know how the Soviet military personnel are in Vietnam (mostly uncle advisers are adults and severe, if it came to rest, then alcohol and songs by Vysotsky, Vizbor and Okudzhava to the guitar. Although?). But here is the fact that teenagers in almost all the yards of the USSR were bawling this song in the evenings with a guitar, I can attest! And then it was considered cool!
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  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 April 15 2018 10: 37
    +6
    Quote: MIKHAN
    In principle, the author is right ... America is not so scary and you can fight off it! And they won’t make direct military contact, the gut is weak.

    And what is he right about? No matter how the devils fight, with dry pants or full ... After them, chaos remains and come on, MIKHAN, we admit, at least for ourselves, that these demons are achieving their goals ... Where are Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan ? How was Taiwan broken off from China? Divided Korea! How to isolate Pakistan from India? And so on ... Who is not there, who is formatted as they need, unfortunately ... And this, according to the author, is a complete inability to war? I repeat, according to FIG how they do it, but they do it !!! And this is a problem for the whole world, this abomination will never stop, since their salvation in a constant war ...
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn April 15 2018 11: 25
      +1
      It turned out and wanted, it’s different, the main victory is Gorbachev and the company that ruined the country, you can’t share the responsibility of the narcissistic stupid tsar and his advisers, I don’t hear much about these, and when Boris went to reign, he most likely knew that he first worked as a battering ram, for collapse and then a screen for a mess
  16. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n April 15 2018 11: 12
    +8
    Let these missiles be not even 120, but all five hundred. So what? We multiply 500 pieces by approximately 500 kg of explosives in each.
    Dear author, at least was under fire from 120 mm mines? No? It’s a pity. Feelings are indescribable. And here is “just some 500 kg” - you know a little thing ....
  17. Igor V
    Igor V April 15 2018 11: 46
    +1
    The photo in the article is wonderful! To the author - respect.
  18. krokus792
    krokus792 April 15 2018 11: 46
    +2
    Hollywood is their battlefield. Hollywood their flight to the moon. Hollywood is their military strength. They also have a film where the President of the United States fights with the swarm of evil himself.
  19. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 15 2018 11: 54
    0
    Quote: astronom1973n
    Let these missiles be not even 120, but all five hundred. So what? We multiply 500 pieces by approximately 500 kg of explosives in each.
    Dear author, at least was under fire from 120 mm mines? No? It’s a pity. Feelings are indescribable. And here is “just some 500 kg” - you know a little thing ....


    Astronomer, well, do not confuse the hail of mines and just One rocket! If it is yours, there is no difference in weight and in the form of delivery.
  20. shinobi
    shinobi April 15 2018 11: 54
    +4
    The first fact, arising from the U.S. attack and quite unpleasant for them that is understandable only to the military, their axes shot down old air defense systems with a stated accuracy of 0,5-0,7 from an absolute unit. That is, 71 downed axes out of 109 are the same. USSR / Russia production works in combat conditions as expected, unlike American ones. The second conclusion, not obvious, puts an end to the entire doctrine of the remote war of Americans. Superiority in aviation and precision weapons over Russia is useless in front of its air defense and is not able to overcome it. the horror story of the Global Lightning Disarming Impact can be forgotten. Although it was clear to the military from the very beginning, the same example of Vietnam-Yugoslavia-Iraq. The third conclusion, which is already unpleasant for us. The psychological effect in the information war on the liberal party and badly imagining is very high.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 16 2018 06: 32
      +2
      By the way, in Vietnam, our air defense systems showed their tremendous effectiveness. If 1965 aircraft were shot down in the first half of 400, then only in the first month of using the S-75 the losses approached two hundred. The air defense systems worked with phenomenal performance - on average 1,5 missiles were spent on one downed aircraft. And in total, the Americans lost almost 4 thousand aircraft only (plus South Vietnam about a thousand aircraft).
  21. mari.inet
    mari.inet April 15 2018 12: 06
    +2
    The article is good, correct. Thanks to the author.
    But, in principle, his presidential majesty Trump showed us very well how modern wars are lost before they start.
    First you need to light up on Twitter with a heroic post. Then refute your own words. After this, it is advisable to get through to the enemy and discuss with him how to do the least harm with your blow. Following - it is indicative to shoot back in a prudently cleared area. Finally, light up again on Twitter with ambitious victorious screams.
    And voila - the United States lost everything in Syria that they could, without losing their pig snout in the elite ranks. They retained their face, but lost authority, advantages, destroyed the legend of their coolness and invincibility. That's what it is - the modern Trump war.
    1. flicker
      flicker April 15 2018 13: 53
      +3
      The Syrian journalist spoke well on the account of the missile strike: "Syrian journalist Abbas Juma expressed his opinion on the missile attack on Damascus concisely and accurately. Hinting at all the groundlessness of the allegations of a chemical attack against the Syrian government, he pointed out the invalidity of the US" response ":

      Generally, what a "chemical attack", such a missile strike "."
  22. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 15 2018 12: 24
    0
    Quote: shinobi
    The first fact, arising from the U.S. attack and quite unpleasant for them that is understandable only to the military, their axes shot down old air defense systems with a stated accuracy of 0,5-0,7 from an absolute unit. That is, 71 downed axes out of 109 are the same. USSR / Russia production works in combat conditions as expected, unlike American ones. The second conclusion, not obvious, puts an end to the entire doctrine of the remote war of Americans. Superiority in aviation and precision weapons over Russia is useless in front of its air defense and is not able to overcome it. the horror story of the Global Lightning Disarming Impact can be forgotten. Although it was clear to the military from the very beginning, the same example of Vietnam-Yugoslavia-Iraq. The third conclusion, which is already unpleasant for us. The psychological effect in the information war on the liberal party and badly imagining is very high.


    Shinobi! It is not good for a warrior to be so faithful! Analyze for yourself: from this direction, the Jews poured Syria more than once or twice! And quite successfully. Are they charmed, or do they have a preferential entry ticket? And here is such an embarrassment! And in the same proportion as last time! Doesn't that seem suspicious? Something tells me that old Gerasim did not lie at all. And Uncle Vova rolls the vanka to the fullest! They say he graduated from the Security Academy with a gold medal? Are they lying? They would try not to give it to him!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 15 2018 12: 36
      0
      Fuck knows, but it seems that half still shot down. Syrians, if there is a reason for this, need to collect all the wreckage, put it on the square in Damascus and invite Western journalists, let them count and make sure.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 15 2018 12: 50
        +1
        Quote: NordUral
        Syrians, if there is a reason for this, it is necessary ...

        Already good. So is there a reason, or is it not? Is it necessary or not? I don't understand anything request
        Quote: NordUral
        ... collect all the wreckage, put it on the square in Damascus and invite Western journalists, let them count and make sure ...

        Yeah. Cool.
        And for this - to sort the ruins (pebble), and sift the sand in the area in dofiga hectare ...
        They have nothing more to do, the Syrians.
        Particularly touched by "let them count" for some reason.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 16 2018 06: 55
        0
        if there is a reason for this, it is necessary to collect all the wreckage, put it on the square in Damascus and invite Western journalists, let them count and make sure.
        Everyone who needs it knows perfectly well how much is released, how many are shot down, and how many are hit (and wherever laughing )
  23. NordUral
    NordUral April 15 2018 12: 32
    +1
    The point is not the invincibility of the mattresses in general, but the determination of the parties and the concentration of forces at a certain point. Our forces in Syria are inferior in quantity to the forces of the gangster coalition, here the solution to the problem is willpower. That is the crux of the matter! Moscow blinked, no matter how insulting. And without blinking and answering, and rather limitedly, only on missiles, Trump would blink.
  24. dzuar saubarag
    dzuar saubarag April 15 2018 12: 47
    +4
    In the fight against panic, the main thing is not to hit the other extreme, which is just as dangerous and wrecking as hatred. The latter often led, ultimately, to the same panic, because the enemy did not want to throw caps with his hats. Therefore, the approach should be balanced even without these extremes!
  25. askme
    askme April 15 2018 13: 02
    +2
    Tomahawks are terrible in a highly developed country with a terribly expensive stationary infrastructure. One tomahawk for 1,5 million - one power plant is orders of magnitude more expensive, etc. But Syria in this regard over the years of the war and so badly destroyed. So, as the author correctly noted, axes are not omnipotent at all. And for moving purposes, they are completely meaningless. So Syria just needs to put the S-300, as already announced by the General Staff. And everything will work out ....)) And the deep CAA bunkers and control points in Khmeimim are protected on their own, they are not accessible to axes .... And if the US’s most powerful weapons begin to be used for all this, the US will very soon begin to evaporate, dissolving into thermonuclear plasma)))
  26. Radikal
    Radikal April 15 2018 13: 04
    +5
    Given all of the above, it is completely incomprehensible to me what all the current lamentations about America’s imaginary invincibility are based on, which, they say, in one fell swoop of seven murders. I see absolutely no reason for this. Unless, of course, such a reason is an elementary desire to quickly surrender, where, as you know, everyone will find a whole box of cookies and a barrel
    To the author of the article. Firstly, to suspect many forum participants of treasonable intentions is insulting and unfounded (this way you can attract the attention of the competent authorities yourself) wassat Secondly, recently, in one article, the author tried to convince us here that the mattresses are bluffing, threatening a blow to Syria, which as a result turned out - the whole world is in the know. The question arises - why do we need such an analyst? winked
  27. Radikal
    Radikal April 15 2018 13: 05
    +3
    Quote: dzuar saubarag
    In the fight against panic, the main thing is not to hit the other extreme, which is just as dangerous and wrecking as hatred. The latter often led, ultimately, to the same panic, because the enemy did not want to throw caps with his hats. Therefore, the approach should be balanced even without these extremes!

    yes good hi
  28. seacap
    seacap April 15 2018 13: 45
    +6
    I would not especially be glad and not jump with delight. This is a strong, treacherous, not burdened by any moral and universal norms, adversary. Very stubborn and persistent in achieving his goals, and considering and sincerely confident that any means and methods can be used to achieve this. This enemy has tremendous military and economic potential, and after the betrayal of our elites and the destruction of the country, its surrender for "beads", they have overwhelming superiority and win the ideological and psychological warfare, using our complete inability, again the weakness and dependence of the elites, suppressing the ability to take strategic actions ahead of the curve, have complete initiative in this field. So that not everything is so simple and rosy, because they are used to fighting with the wrong hands, attracting all their vassals to the content. They sincerely do not understand why if you are stronger and you can afford it with impunity, you cannot beat a weak, wretched or lying man, why you should show compassion to the defeated enemy, and not finish him to the end and put on his knees in pads, this opponent is historically completely different with a different mentality and ideas about honor and valor. Unfortunately, for a long time and persistently (this again speaks of the danger of such an enemy) for several generations, our leaders, I don’t think because of stupidity, do not keep fools there, so by malicious intent, rendering services to our enemy, the question is to what extent interest, destroy the system of education and upbringing, replacing our historical values ​​with others, destroy our society. The criteria for assessing a person’s success are purposefully replaced, the measure is not talent, knowledge and professional qualities, not the ability to create something for society, but only loot, no matter how you acquired it, a cult of strength and individualism, licentiousness and permissiveness is imposed, calling it democracy (a concept introduced for the colonies and third countries), depriving our society of traditionally communal way of life, respect for each other and selfless devotion to their land and people.
    1. askme
      askme April 15 2018 13: 59
      +3
      Have you already sold your homeland, troll, so you throw knives in her back when she is in battle? Now in this sense there is no difference between the government and the people. Everything is at war. But trolls with VO do not agree with this. It's like a sickle in their balls)) Well, that's good. You don’t care about the end very soon. Because the Russian people in the war are one. And he quickly puts traitors to the wall, which kindle strife when the homeland is under attack.
  29. dDYHA
    dDYHA April 15 2018 13: 55
    +1
    In principle, the fact that everyone is calmly talking about it got enough of it. After all, your mother may, because of this filthy Syria, disappear from the face of the Earth city millionaires. And we are reasoning so calmly. Go take a communion occasion writer. And then there will be no time.
  30. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 April 15 2018 14: 02
    +2
    tyu22,
    You really do not understand?
  31. Yarik
    Yarik April 15 2018 14: 38
    +1
    How to lose the war before it starts

    And just to have a president-master chess player.
  32. TOR2
    TOR2 April 15 2018 18: 35
    +2
    Chasing with the help of the Tomahawks the troops withdrawn into a pure field or their military equipment is an absolutely empty occupation.
    But “axes” are not for that. This is a weapon of another type of war. Warehouses with fuel for tanks Do you also drag in a clean field?
    And the West will be very, very difficult to do this. Because he doesn’t like passion to fight, as all normal people fight - wall to wall, on the battlefield, with rivers of their own blood flowing from this fact.
    If it’s not beautiful, then we just don’t have the human resources to fight in this way and the appearance of the “Caliber” is proof of this.
    The task of wars of a new type lies precisely in the defeat of critical infrastructure. And basically these objects are civilian, why many cannot understand this!
    Now about the white rags. Recent events just once again confirm the need for further strengthening of the air defense system. In relevant topics, he repeatedly mentioned the conveyor supply of launch containers.
    In the case of a massive raid here who is who. Or a flock of flies or a conveyor sending hundreds of kg to the sky. angry metal.
  33. Altona
    Altona April 15 2018 18: 49
    0
    Quote: Humungus
    Tell me at least one American or Englishman that shot down at least 10 enemy aircraft ...

    ----------------------------------------
    Yes, with the pilots they have just complete order. Here it’s not worth underestimating them. This profession is quite respected among them, and is promoted in many films. Look for a list of aces of the Korean or Vietnamese war for yourself.
  34. Altona
    Altona April 15 2018 18: 52
    0
    Quote: askme
    Now in this sense there is no difference between the government and the people. Everything is at war.

    -------------------------------------
    Come on? There is a difference and quite a lot. We still have many Maldivian-Cypriots, whom you are ready to record as patriots.
    1. askme
      askme April 15 2018 19: 21
      +3
      So I and the Communists, who for the sake of their ideology are ready to tear to pieces, I do not consider for patriots. The same rats, only a side view. Passed in the 1917th. They only adhered to patriots in 1941, and before that they were globalist-internationalists. Satanists. If it is a question of cutting, both of these will be cut. And absolutely spontaneously. But it will not be. Nobody will let you rock Russia to this bottom ... A stage passed for Russia, lessons learned ...
      1. Magadan
        Magadan April 16 2018 02: 51
        +1
        on the communists do not agree.
        Stalin took the patriotic line almost immediately, beginning to destroy all these "faithful Leninists" led by Trotsky
  35. Altona
    Altona April 15 2018 19: 23
    0
    Quote: askme
    So I and the Communists, who for the sake of their ideology are ready to tear to pieces for the patriots, I do not consider.

    ------------------------------------
    Clearly, you are an ordinary saboteur. With pleasure meet the Wehrmacht and sign up for the ROA.
    1. askme
      askme April 15 2018 19: 24
      +2
      It is only clear that you are an ordinary VO trollin on the content of the CIA. There are plenty of such provocateurs.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 15 2018 19: 30
        +1
        Yes, you throw yours, ahem, vis-a-vis.
        The guy’s life didn’t work out, that’s what he’s surfing on the Internet.
        Positions itself as a "megablogger", mentoring tone is the norm. In some places he writes, well, ju-u-uuuutskoy heresy request
        Here condolences fit, not rugamst laughing
  36. rtutaloe
    rtutaloe April 15 2018 19: 59
    +1
    To paraphrase the author of the article: I did not expect that there would be so many experts on Syria in the country. It is a pity that the quantity does not turn into quality. The article is purely capricious. It is clear that the attack was either reconnaissance, or its goal was the political cover of some scandal. According to this attack, NATO analysts will analyze the possibility of Russian air defense, and will prepare better next time. Tales about the fact that all missiles were shot down by purely old Soviet air defense systems - this is from a series of tales about the fact that there is not a single Russian military in the Donbass, and that the militias continuously grab tons of weapons from the enemy in tons. ))) Something to Iraq, which of the old Soviet air defense systems did not have only the S-300, the old systems did not help. ) It is understood that Tomogavki is against the Syrian army, this is ISIS. The same barmalei. However, if Russia had not helped Assad, then the Americans would have had enough of the barmales. And so - there is a big game, before the possible Third World War, in which Syria is just a testing ground, which Spain and Finland used to be before WWII.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 15 2018 20: 51
      +2
      You did not understand. Tales or not tales - history will clarify. The basic and true idea is that one must be persistent, incorruptible, confident and purposeful. Then the US is powerless.
      I remember that in 1973 we were dragged to our institute by a photodetector taken from the first American "smart" laser-guided bomb. She did not explode, and the Vietnamese comrades, along with ours, successfully dismantled it. Our developers gasped at her sensitivity and selectivity - our institute is 2 orders of magnitude behind! So that? These bombs did not help them. The Vietnamese simply burned tires in the target area and the laser beam was drowned in smoke. They invented many such lotions and won the war. Yes, the Union helped them. But this help was 1/10 of American spending on the war. In Syria, the same story.
      If politicians fail, America will merge. She is already merging, playing a match.
      1. rtutaloe
        rtutaloe April 16 2018 12: 33
        +1
        America does not always merge, and certainly brings at least half of its affairs to the end. Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Afghanistan - against all this, only Vietnam. It's ridiculous! In addition, Vietnam is a difficult natural environment and a small exhaust from victory. And without the Union, Vietnam would have won her hell. It doesn’t matter what they came up with there - without Soviet weapons hell would have happened. You cannot win modern war with a pitchfork and pickaxe. If there wasn’t your support, then where would I live long ago, would Kiev have won, or do you still sincerely believe that we capture everything that is needed for defense from the enemy? ))) War is primarily an economy. And in this regard, the Americans are fighting simply with maximum benefit. But this does not deny their victories.
        Now about the costs. Americans also have other prices and earnings, so comparing expenses simply by the price of a weapon or by general numbers is pure propaganda. But you can’t win the war by balabolism.

        Now about perseverance, determination and other blah blah blah. While the opinion of the war in your heads is formed by cheers, while the opinion of the war is formed on feature films shot by directors who never even served, not like fighting, who film actors who haven't served in their films, and scriptwriters who write You saw weapons only on TV - you are vulnerable. As soon as a real war begins, 80% of your patriots will merge quickly just by hearing shots somewhere in the distance. We already went through this here. Because a real war and a fairy tale are two different things. Therefore, it is necessary to form a real idea of ​​the war, difficulties and opportunities, so that in case of war, do not rush about in a panic from the gap between reality and the expected picture in your head. And the formation of a real idea is a complex multi-stage way of learning, and I don’t see anyone doing this with you.
  37. Magadan
    Magadan April 16 2018 02: 49
    +2
    Indeed, only tomahawks cannot win the war.
    But the author stubbornly remains silent about the fact that the Americans have their own "moderate terrorists," who, after the attack by the tomahawks, may well go on the offensive.
    Or is it not clear that with a massive air / missile raid, the Syrian army will disperse, exposing huge sections of the front where green bearded men will rush ?!
    Or have we forgotten about how the Ishilovites took Palmyra back? Even without American air support?
    How did the greens break through the cauldron in Aleppo?
    So don’t have to take pink glasses.
    With NATO air support, all these green bearded men are quite capable of changing the picture in their favor.

    And my questions are the same:
    1) Why didn’t they give C-300 to Syria? Assad has no right to defend himself? The opinion of "Western partners" is more important, right?
    2) If they couldn’t hammer on ships in the Red Sea, why didn’t Assad help outpopulate American bases in Syria itself? Are we afraid of war? Do you think that the United States is fucking nuclear weapons in Russia if Assad rasshrechatyvat their base in Syria?
    So do not la la about how "everything is fine."
  38. sleeve
    sleeve April 17 2018 11: 53
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    Well, the empirical statement doesn’t win with air strikes. Everything is in the power of leadership and unity of the country. In Syria, thank God (both theirs and ours alone) was nagged with this (what is this from?). So the statement goes from empirical to formal. In this particular place. What about the rest? Close to the text. But then who was late, he did not have time. It was necessary to develop there in the USA, and not to cut the butterflies. You look at something more powerful and would fly. Well here excuse yourself to blame. We looked and developed according to the dialectics of military affairs, not economics.
  39. Prometey
    Prometey April 17 2018 15: 30
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    As for Vietnam, the author is cynical. The scars from the bombing still remain. 2 million killed inhabitants and hundreds of thousands of mutilated.
    Can't you win a war with air strikes? Well, maybe against Russia - yes - the scale is large. But Iraq and Yugoslavia are quite. Iraq after 1991 no longer recovered and slid into the abyss, in 2003 it was simply squeezed. The Serbs lasted 2 months, there was not even a ground operation needed. About Libya and probably so remember. No, dear author - air terror - this is a very powerful way to force the capitulation of almost any country if it cannot strike outside its territory. Syria will not be able to for sure.
  40. Gato
    Gato April 17 2018 20: 35
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    So what is the article about? Let’s cry! Or do not weed?
    1. Gato
      Gato April 17 2018 20: 41
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      Does the author suggest attacking right now or wait? Here explain the meaning to the old dumb major soldier
  41. mumis
    mumis April 18 2018 11: 39
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    Hmm, the American army is similar to the army of the Russian model of the 1st World War. The current Russian army is a semblance of exactly that Russian army, and not the Soviet army. This means that everything that is said in the article can be attributed to it.
    The exploit of Major Phillipov is used by the Kremlin in the same way that the US soldier Ryan is heroized. But it comes to the people like Alexander Matrosov. Sooner or later this lie will come out and God forbid that the Kremlin after that has time to sign its Brest Treaty, for which it now stigmatizes the Bolsheviks.
  42. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr April 18 2018 16: 02
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    America is a strong enemy
  43. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 18 2018 18: 02
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    Therefore, they were from Ukraine and made the infantry, which was assigned the role of dying in front of NATO, and they themselves will help, as always from behind. One thing I don’t understand is what in this case they assign the strategic nuclear forces of Russia.