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World War II: a war of meanings and interpretations

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It must be admitted that not World War II, but World War I, became a truly terrible test for Europe. In it, the largest European countries buried a whole generation of compatriots. More than a million soldiers took part in the famous long and extremely bloody battle on Marne. Churchill admitted that in this world slaughter England lost millions of teachers, doctors, workers and engineers. On this subject, European studios shot a lot of films that painted all the horrors of those massive bloody battles.




The second world war with inhuman bitterness and exertion of forces was fought only on the Eastern Front. And only two states — the Soviet Union and the Third Reich — paid for all the bills.

"Soft" occupation

Before invading the territory of the Soviet Union, Hitler relatively painlessly and in the shortest possible time put on his knees dozens of countries in continental Europe. For one reason or another, all of them did not consider it necessary (or could not - which, however, happened much less frequently) to put up fierce resistance to a polished German military machine.

France was relatively painlessly occupied by the German army in less than a month. It was a very peculiar, "soft" occupation. After her life, the "city of lovers" has not changed much. Not a single building was destroyed here (unlike Stalingrad, which was transformed by continuous bombardments of the Luftwaffe pilots into a Martian landscape of stone ruins, smoking ashes and burnt bricks). Paris and the Germans continued to live a rich cultural life. Bouquets of flowers flew at the feet of the cabaret beauties, famously dancing the cancan before Deutsche Zoldaten. In the local restaurants and brothels, German officers practiced the "frenzy and fumes of spree". In the city in the evenings they continued to tear stormy applause in the crowded halls of the chansonnier. During these years, the famous Maurice Chevalier and Jean Cocteau gave their famous creations to humanity. The Jews darkened the picture a little, which the French had to send to concentration camps at the suggestion of the Germans, but war is war.

It was not for nothing that Field Marshal Keitel, when he saw the representatives of the anti-Hitler coalition of the French, during the signing of the act of surrender, sarcasticly asked: “And did the French defeat us too?”

But the record of the speed of surrender to fascism among the European countries defeatists was set by Norway. This country was conquered by the Reich in general in one day. This result to this day can be safely entered in the Guinness Book of Records. Churchill commented on this shocking event: “If the gangsters left the screen right in the cinema while watching the action movie, I would not be surprised anymore.”



One war - different results

And today, the attitude of Russia, the United States, European powers, and many other countries of the planet to this war is different. Different and historical the importance of war for its participants.

For us, this is the Apocalypse of the 20 century, the worst test in the history of the country. And the Great Victory in this war, when we planted the Banner of Victory among the defeated Teutonic gods, is truly the second coming of Christ. Stalingrad, the battle for Moscow, the Kursk Bulge, the blockade of Leningrad - these words became a symbol of the sacrificial feat of millions of compatriots who sacrificed their lives to ensure that the name of Russia did not fade.

For England, this is the sunset of the once great empire, over which the sun had never set before. After World War II, it went. Britain now will never rule the seas as before.

For Washington - a symbol of the final acquisition of the British geopolitical legacy. The "reins of history" passed from one hand to the other. America, on the historical wave of this global war, not only soared to unprecedented heights of prosperity, but also received a unique chance to claim world hegemony, which did not fail to take advantage.

Paris, despite the humiliating occupation and surrender in the face of the German monster, nevertheless received a unique chance to return to the club of the great powers that determine the future of continental Europe.

For Berlin, this war is the end of the Prussian period of history and the beginning of post-totalitarian history.

And all the countries of Eastern Europe after the Great War lost their sovereignty and became vassals of their patrons. Only one became vassals of the collective West, others - vassals of the Soviet Union. After the fall of the latter, they simply changed their master, but did not acquire the desired sovereignty. And to this end, almost all Eastern European states remain just objects, but by no means subjects of world politics.



Fracture

And then the iron curtain fell. Former allies were on opposite sides of ideological barricades. And changed their attitude towards each other, and to the earlier common war. But once the attitude towards a fateful historical fact has changed, a revision of history and a war of interpretations of various historical events began.

The first prerequisites for a global review of the outcome of the Second World War arose immediately after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Then the whole architecture of the world collapsed, the foundation of which was laid at the Yalta Conference. The times of the “Big Three” have irreversibly sunk into oblivion. It is time for a new global relationship architecture. And then the importance of the victory of the Soviet Union in the Great War was questioned.

As a result, now in Europe, all references to the international anti-Hitler coalition seem to be deeply archaic. The fact that the communists of the Soviet Union, together with the Anglo-Saxons who arrived from overseas without the participation of the Europeans, determined the fate of continental Europe, does not cause them a tumultuous stream of positive emotions. And they also want a review of the outcome of the Great War.

Since the beginning of the 90-ies began a massive intellectual "war of interpretations" of the outcome of the Second World War. As a result, today, US citizens are absolutely confident that it was their victorious army that defeated both the Germans and the Japanese with some British participation. The great "dream factory" - Hollywood - took the most active part in the cultivation of this myth.

The British, in turn, revel in the “Battle of the Atlantic” (and British cinema gives one film masterpiece after another on this subject). The citizens of the Soviet Union, in turn, knew almost nothing about the famous attack on Pearl Harbor, which destroyed overnight the fleet of a great power, about the battles in Okinawa, Operation Enigma and the battle of the British and German submarines in the Atlantic.
It turns out that the war in Europe and the war in the USSR are two different wars.

The courage of the “Norse clip”

In the information war against the falsification of the results of the Second World War, the time of curtsy has passed. The world is balancing on the brink of global war, so the time for refined diplomacy has sunk into oblivion. It is also dangerous to live in a “reaction mode”, as many modern Russian ideologists have become accustomed to. It is necessary to radically change the whole concept of both ideological and information warfare. In our uncompromising time, it is necessary at every opportunity to poke the nose of our opponents at those moments of their past life and history, which are extremely unpleasant for them. This affects them soberingly and, if not changing their point of view, makes them at least correct rhetoric.

Living example. In the history of the Second World War, in the opinion of many modern historians, the role of the French Resistance was exaggerated and romanticized. In fact, this partisan movement was in fact so vague and incomprehensible that the Germans simply did not pay attention to it.

No less "mysterious" and "mysterious" was the resistance movement in Austria. For the most part, it consisted in the fact that local partisan underground fighters painted the mysterious abbreviation “05” on the walls of houses. Thus, it turns out, they hinted that their country is still an empire, and not one of the areas controlled by the Reich. But it seems that the soldiers of the German patrol, when they urinated on these figures, did not even guess what they were encroaching on.

Only the Norwegians were better than the Austrian "resistance". Apparently, they decided to replenish the Guinness Book of Records not only with the instant surrender of their country to the mercy of the winner. The local intelligentsia, having decided to fight the invaders “until the last breath”, began to take to the streets in protest, pinning paper clips to the lapels of their jackets. It was a very serious protest against the presence of the occupiers in their country. The risk was fatal. True, the Germans themselves for some reason did not notice this protest. Or noticed, but did not pay attention to him.

And among the NKVD officers who worked in Norway, this gesture of unprecedented courage of the harsh northerners caused a flurry of scabrous jokes and jokes on the verge (or beyond) of decency. The expressions “exceptional Norse bravery” and “courageous Norwegian clip” immediately went to the people, causing a lot of jokes and jokes. Sarcasm jokes about the "hot Estonian guys," "generous Jews", "modest Poles" and "hardworking, law-abiding blacks" still seems childish prattle compared to those exquisite images of folk art.



"Grooms of death"

But some Europeans had a different relationship with fascism. It is necessary to understand and remember that in the forty-first year practically all of the 450-million continental Europe fought against us. Then everything fell under the German banners: Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles, Spaniards, Italians, Danes, Dutch, Croats, Bulgarians, Finns, Romanians ... Practically everything except the British. Some of the French in the Wehrmacht fought over 200 thousands of people.

Little of. Very interesting is the fact that the Europeans joined the ranks of the "suitors of death" - the Waffen SS sondercommands - in incomparably larger numbers than in the ranks of the Resistance members. And in the combat units of the SS ethnic Germans were much less than volunteers from various European countries. Simple statistics: among the SS divisions were the French "Charlemagne", the Dutch "Netherlands", the Belgian "Wallonia" and "Langemark", the Scandinavian "Norland", "Viking" and "Nord".

The surviving fighters of the French "Charlemagne" even in the last days of the war fought with the Soviet troops to the last bullet, defending the symbol of fascist resistance - the flaming Reichstag.

And we need to remember this. Otherwise, it turns out that instead of us, the descendants of the scrapers and Charlemagne fighters will be engaged in our history and teach us life. The descendants of those who meekly knelt before the German occupiers, laying their banners at their feet. And also the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those who not only energetically served the interests of fascist Germany, but also were ready to lay down their heads for them.

This can not be allowed. “Our dead will not leave us in trouble, our fallen - like sentries,” the poet said very precisely and figuratively. And we, if we do not want to betray the memory of our fallen and living, must also be sentinels. Sentinel our shared memory.

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  1. apro
    apro April 16 2018 05: 27
    +4
    You don’t have to look for meaning where it doesn’t exist. Each side of the conflict fulfilled its role. The Germans hammer the USSR with an anvil. Angles solved their problems by provocations. Americans chopped dibs and cut spheres of influence. Europe finally lost its civilizational role and influence in the world after a series of defeats from English. The USSR is somewhat more complicated. The IVS Stalin team tried to build a new economic and social system. But the environment did not welcome these attempts. With the death of the leader, everything merged. For the bun.
    Today I am trying to pull the victory of the USSR onto a new Russia. But the meaning of victory and its results in no way reflect the goal-setting of the new Russians.
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich April 16 2018 06: 29
    +10
    It must be admitted that the real terrible test for Europe was not the Second, but the First World War.
    Only for France and England with Belgium.
    In Europe as a whole, WWII losses were much greater than in WWII
    In the famous long and bloody battle on the marne participated more million soldier.

    Participated 2 million people in the battle of marne a loss million people were in battle on the somme.
    The Second World War, with inhuman bitterness and exertion of forces, was waged only on the Eastern Front. And only two states - the Soviet Union and the Third Reich - paid for it on all accounts.

    Again, not like that: Romania paid a much larger loss than in WWI. Poland, Yugoslavia, Greece, lost many times more. than in WWI. Italy, Austria, Hungary paid quite comparable to the WWI.
    All the tales of the French resistance, the suppression of the atrocities of the Hungarians and Romanians on the territory of the USSR - were the result of an unreasonable policy of creating "friends" in the socialist camp and "friends" in the kaplagk ..
    Which led, in the end, to the fact that they did not consider themselves guilty and did not consider and did not pay the price that they had to pay for the atrocities ....
    The conclusion is this: it was IMPOSSIBLE for the Union to forgive ANYONE: a well-paid huge price would firmly drive their memory for centuries. It was a mistake ...
    1. apro
      apro April 16 2018 07: 33
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      The conclusion is this: it was IMPOSSIBLE for the Union to forgive ANYONE: a well-paid huge price would firmly drive their memory for centuries. It was a mistake ...

      To judge how it could be. It’s not true. If you didn’t understand what IVS Stalin wanted. Soviet demands. Over time, with proper control, the sharp corners smoothed out. Work in the socialist system was fine. We do not forget the economic damage after the war. The USSR was limited to offer anything in its sphere of influence. Compared to Amers. And had to show political flexibility. Thanks to this world 40 years was ensured in Europe. And the security of the USSR was at a different level.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 16 2018 10: 26
        +4
        Quote: apro
        Judge as it could be.not true.If you do not understand what IVS Stalin wanted. He did not need enemies in the territory of influence. And there were no other people and control systems

        The result achieved is the evaluation criterion fidelity decisions made.
        And the result is deplorable: ALL the allies then created by Stalin-today the enemies are more evil than the West.
        Quote: apro
        .da some collaborated with the Nazis but complied with Soviet requirements.

        Hungary and Romania were marked by MASS war crimes and atrocities, such can never be forgiven. The result of forgiveness, we see today: they are already ... victims of aggression belay
        Quote: apro
        .SSSR was limited to offer anything in its sphere of influence. Compared with amers. And had to show political flexibility

        Not flexibility, but deflection in front of the “allies” and pumping them up with cheap free resources of Russia, which it most acutely lacked.
        Quote: apro
        Thanks to this, peace in Europe was ensured for 40 years. And also the security of the USSR was at a different level.

        The world was thanks to the Victory, according to her participation of the USSR in the security system and thanks to nuclear weapons., And not thanks to the "allies".
        As soon as the "feeding" the freebie ended, the "allies" immediately spread to the West (and there was no longer any strength to feed!)
        Bottom line: we didn’t receive reparations and restoration by the “allies” of the WWII destroyed, the silence of the crimes made them innocent victims ... of Russian aggression, huge resources torn from Russia went AWESOME.
        "Wisely, yes ....
        1. apro
          apro April 16 2018 12: 12
          +3
          Quote: Olgovich
          And the result is deplorable: ALL the allies then created by Stalin-today the enemies are more evil than the West.

          This is not the result of the IVS Stalin’s activities, but the criminal acts of the leaders after him, when the Stalinist course was defamed and called criminal. The result of a systematic struggle with the social system of both external and internal opponents.
          Not flexibility, but deflection in front of the “allies” and pumping them up with cheap free resources of Russia, which it most acutely lacked.
          This is your opinion. IV Stalin was not seen in the troughs. And economically linking countries in Europe to the USSR he acted far-sighted. And how cheap and at the same time free?
          The fact of the victory of the Soviet people is an undeniable thing. But to consolidate success in Europe, it was necessary both by political, military and economic means. Without this, victory was an empty phrase.
          Not feeding a freebie but the purposeful surrender of Honneker. Ceausescu. Jaruzelski and the rest of the communist leaders. Remember the offer of a hunchback to trade inside CMEA for dollars
          But the Soviet Union reparations at one time took it. Not in those volumes. But the possibilities of the USSR at that time were limited. It was necessary to take into account external threats from the amers no one canceled.
          Today, the journalists clearly showed how to create enemies. Let's take a look at Ukraine in the Baltic states and Kazakhstan. The Russian world is his mother's foot ....
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 17 2018 05: 30
            +1
            Actually, the USSR was weakened after the Second World War. The social camp was needed, it was necessary to create a socialist camp, CMEA. Then it was possible.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 17 2018 05: 51
            0
            Quote: apro
            This is not the result of the activity of IVStalin. But the criminal acts of the leaders after him.

            Words words...
            What has changed in relation to the "allies" after the death of Stalin? Nothing: they hated us just as quietly, they were cajoled with nonsense and held the army. The result is known.
            Quote: apro
            This is your opinion. IV Stalin in the troughs was not seen.

            Fertilizing resources, forgiving offenses - what is this?
            Quote: apro
            The fact of the victory of the Soviet people is an undeniable thing. But to consolidate success in Europe, it was necessary both by political, military and economic means. Without this, victory was an empty phrase.

            Both political and economic methods turned out to be absolutely ineffective (and this is at enormous cost!): As soon as weakened the military component, everything collapsed.
            Quote: apro
            f feeding a freebie and purposeful surrender of Honneker. Ceausescu. Jaruzelski and other communist leaders. Remember the offer of a hunchback to trade inside CMEA for a dollar

            To whom did they “surrender” them? their the same people. It was necessary to fight with the peoples for cups !?
            Quote: apro
            But the Soviet Union reparations at one time took it. Not in those volumes. But the possibilities of the USSR at that time were limited. It was necessary to take into account external threats from the amers no one canceled.

            what nonsense? NOBODY and NOTHING reparations to the winning country were forbidden to receive and did not try.
            Quote: apro
            Today, the journalists clearly showed how to create enemies. Let's take a look at Ukraine in the Baltic states and Kazakhstan. The Russian world is his mother’s foot ...

            Russophobia was grown in the union republics of the USSR (due to the stupidity of national politics).
            ALL the intellectual elite of the republics was with party cards, and ALL turned out to be Nazi. Who raised her, forgot?
  3. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 16 2018 06: 36
    +5
    I already wrote here that all of Europe met Hitler, precisely as a liberator - who “liberated” her from political throwings, who gave work, removed socialist-communists, who stirred up the people, imposed “order”, which enabled the development of European nations under the cover of the German “shield” and who called the goal of the existence of Europe-the opposition to communism, Russia. This goal is still prevailing in the minds of Europeans. And, here, the Soviet Army, which destroyed this whole “order," is perceived in Europe precisely as an occupation.
  4. Babalaykin
    Babalaykin April 16 2018 06: 43
    +5
    Why did the Germans so easily capture all of Europe? Yes, because the ideas of Nazism soared throughout Europe, the Germans were identified as the most combat-ready as the main ones on this topic.
  5. Severski
    Severski April 16 2018 06: 44
    +3
    “But Norway set a record for surrender to fascism among European defeatist countries.” - The author probably wanted to say Denmark. Although Norway is not particularly resisted.

    “It must be understood and remembered that in the forty-first year almost the entire 450 millionth continental Europe fought against us.” “Not entirely correct.” Europe was under Germany, but this does not mean that everyone fought having forgiven the USSR. The Germans controlled the economy, but the human resource was mostly amorphous. According to the author’s logic, in 1936-39 there was a world war in Spain because almost all ethnic groups of Europe fought there on both sides, and there were also volunteers from other continents. The human potential of Europe was enormous, and if all of Europe fought against the Russians, they could have assembled a huge army. What is 200 thousand for France? If the Finnish army numbered 450 thousand. Another thing is that in Europe the majority were hatskrayniki. People who did not want to fight at all. On the side of the fascists, limited contingents from volunteers from different countries fought, but the whole country cannot be responsible for each rogue whom it gave birth. For reference, 2/3 of the Romanian army was on the border with Hungary, and accordingly, most of the Hungarian army was on the border with Romania, although both countries fought on the side of Germany against the USSR.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 16 2018 10: 33
      +4
      “Although Norway did not particularly resist.” ///

      Excuse me, who drowned the cruiser Blucher in 1940? Aren't the Norwegians?
      More than 1000 Germans died. A ship of this class is equivalent to a land division.
      The British won the battle of Narvik - the Germans retreated.
      But after the Germans captured the entire coast of Europe: Holland, Belgium, the British had to
      evacuate. The Norwegian king fled to England.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 April 20 2018 12: 40
        0
        But Norway set a record for surrender to capitulation among European defeatist countries. This country was conquered by the Reich in general in one day.

        Well, the author here is certainly partly right, if he had in mind the POLAR DAY. And then the start of the operation to seize Norway on April 9, and only on June 16 they captured the country completely, having lost over this period
        German casualties in Norway - 1307 killed, 2375 missing and 1604 injured. Losses in the air amounted to 127 aircraft. The German fleet suffered especially heavy losses - the heavy cruiser Blucher, the light cruisers Karlsruhe and Königsberg, 10 destroyers, the artillery training vessel Brummer, 8 submarines, destroyer, 11 transports and more than 10 small ships were sunk. The battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, the battleship Lutzov, the heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper, the light cruiser Emden, and the artillery training vessel Bremze were damaged.

        Well, this author can still be said normally to cover this topic. Here at VO there is generally a special who, in his articles, cites quotes from books of a rezun as arguments ... So everything is fine.
  6. igordok
    igordok April 16 2018 06: 59
    +4
    But Norway set a record for surrender to capitulation among European defeatist countries. This country was conquered by the Reich in general in one day. This result can still be safely entered into the Guinness Book of Records.

    The author is mistaken. They took Norway for 63 of the day, mainly the British defended. This is Denmark taken in one day. When they talk about WWII losses, they forget about China.
    Honestly, I did not understand what the author wanted to say.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 16 2018 10: 48
      +5
      Figures and facts are pulled sloppy and unbalanced.
      If we talk about those who fought for the Nazis in the West, then we should
      and mention those who fought for them in the USSR. Khivi and Vlasovites.
      Or not touch on this topic at all.
      1. apro
        apro April 16 2018 13: 14
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Figures and facts are pulled sloppy and unbalanced.
        If we talk about those who fought for the Nazis in the West, then we should
        and mention those who fought for them in the USSR. Khivi and Vlasovites.
        Or not touch on this topic at all.

        And also mention the Jewish allies of Hitler.
    2. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher April 16 2018 10: 56
      +6
      Quote: igordok
      The author makes the mistake of taking Norway in 63 days, mostly the British defended. This is Denmark taken in one day.

      Because the author is an agitator, a propagandist, not an analyst.
      Quote: igordok
      When they talk about WWII losses, they forget about China.

      And few people remember about China, although people died no less than in Europe, and in terms of atrocities, the Japanese more than surpassed the Germans.
      Quote: igordok
      Honestly, I did not understand what the author wanted to say.

      And why is it incomprehensible, the USSR dArtagnan, and all the rest is clear who. And if the USSR is like that, then Russia is the same, but all around have not changed at all.
      This is how to read the Soviet warrior number 5 for 1985, only without the leading role of the party ...
  7. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 07: 25
    0
    I can’t figure it out, who blurted out about the French there, Keitel, or Jodl? recourse
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 16 2018 07: 34
      +2
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      ... Keitel, or Jodel ...

      ..., Popocatepetl, or Quetzalcoatl? belay
      Something rzhu ... Monday, damn it, morning ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 16 2018 07: 36
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Popocatepetl, or Quetzalcoatl?

        Squeal for health, and I vote for the historical truth. repeat laughing drinks
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 16 2018 07: 38
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          I vote for the historical truth

          Join yes
          Well, for Eyafyatlayokudl drinks
          Damn, cut to work again ... again ... I do not like morning angry
    2. nnz226
      nnz226 April 16 2018 18: 00
      +2
      Keitel signed the surrender on behalf of the Wehrmacht on the night of May 9. Entering the hall where Marshal Zhukov was sitting and the allied freeloaders who joined him, and when he saw the French flag, he was surprised and asked this question.
  8. demiurg
    demiurg April 16 2018 09: 33
    0
    I am not very pleased when any film shot in Russia about WWII is declared a political order. Even 28 Panfilovites contrived to cheat.
  9. BAI
    BAI April 16 2018 09: 34
    +3
    Yes, yes now there are a lot of attempts to rewrite history, to blame the USSR for the beginning. And I do not see any particular opposition to this. But this must not be forgotten.
  10. Huumi
    Huumi April 16 2018 10: 22
    0
    Well, as far as France, you are already tired! -Soldiers fought bravely there! -And died with dignity! -No Paris soldiers made an open city! -Politics! The Spaniards thought it’s scary, but only the Blue Division fought there! -How did Adolf say with a guitar under his arm. -There are separate battles where the Romanians showed themselves-Near Sevastopol but no more than that-And as one hetarian said, All strategic and tactical tasks and main directions were decided by the Germans !!! - Hungarians and Finns, perhaps this can be mentioned ! Those yes, yes, with each creature in a pair ... Germans solved all the main tasks, yes and how many I did not read, with rare exceptions, none of the veterans remembered the Germans acre as anyone. Someone fought da-Finns and Hungarians in the north so ... nonsense is all a hundred times repeated
    PS Austrians were often mentioned here ... I read a lot about them ...
  11. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher April 16 2018 11: 45
    0
    Before invading the territory of the Soviet Union, Hitler put on his knees dozens of countries in continental Europe with relatively painless and extremely short time.

    Dozens is more than twenty, the author really did not deign to list them, I counted only ten. What other ten countries did Germany occupy?

    But if the USSR government should intervene in this struggle, then on whose side should it intervene? Naturally, on the side of the governments of the bourgeois-democraticwho do not achieve the same violation of the world. The USSR is therefore interested in France being well armed against possible attacks by fascist states, against aggressors. By intervening in this way, we kind of throw on the scales of the struggle between fascism and anti-fascism, between aggression and non-aggression - an extra weight that outweighs the weight in favor of anti-fascism and non-aggression. That is what our agreement with France is based on.

    Stalin said in an interview in 1935, and four years later he did the opposite ...
    1. Dashing
      Dashing April 16 2018 18: 01
      +2
      Stalin made it useful to his country. And he said, he didn’t say ... - "Politics is the art of the possible."
  12. alatanas
    alatanas April 16 2018 14: 32
    +1
    Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles, Spaniards, Italians, Danes, Dutch, Croats, Bulgarians, Finns, Romanians ...

    There were no Bulgarians on the eastern front. Bulgaria was at war with Britain and the USA.
    The kingdom of Bulgaria and the USSR were in the dipl. relations until 05.09.1944. Ambassador of the USSR to Bulgaria - Alexander Lavrishchev.
    1. Dashing
      Dashing April 16 2018 18: 17
      +1
      Indeed, dear alatanas, Bulgaria did not directly fight the USSR. But the aggression against my country contributed. Effectively harm can be indirectly. For example, "Bulgaria’s participation in the occupation of Greece and Yugoslavia and military operations against Greek and Yugoslav partisans freed German divisions to be sent to the Eastern Front. In addition, on December 6, 1941 German seaplanes sank the Soviet submarine Sch-204 in the Varna region. April 24, 1941 Bulgarian Minister of Foreign Affairs Ivan Popov and German diplomat Karl Klodius signed a secret agreement between Germany and Bulgaria, according to which the Third Reich received the right to develop deposits and mining in Bulgaria, and Bulgaria pledged to pay the debts of Yugoslavia to the Third Reich and assume expenses for the maintenance of German troops in Bulgaria.On August 26, 1944 and the following days, German troops retreating from Romania entered the territory of Bulgaria with equipment and weapons, continued to move through the territory of Bulgaria and passed to the territory of Yugoslavia, 23 German vessels arrived at the port of Ruse but the government of Bulgaria is not supposed took no measures on internment against them, "etc.
      1. alatanas
        alatanas April 17 2018 14: 31
        0
        Steel Germans bought from Sweden, money (gold) was stored in Switzerland, Opel plants - the main shareholder of GMC (USA), etc. - this list goes on and on.
        Yes, by the 7 September 1944, Bulgaria was at war with both the Axis and the USSR, and later fought as part of the III Ukrainian Front in Yugoslavia, Hungary, later in Austria where it met with the British near Klagenfurt. etc
      2. alatanas
        alatanas April 17 2018 14: 47
        0
        On 24 on April 1941, Bulgarian Foreign Minister Ivan Popov and German diplomat Karl Klodius signed a secret agreement between Germany and Bulgaria, according to which the Third Reich received the right to develop deposits and mining in Bulgaria, and Bulgaria pledged to pay the debts of Yugoslavia

        Not in Bulgaria, but in the territories of Yugoslavia and Greece that have been abandoned by Bulgaria, after the successful completion of military operations against these states - deposits known as
        Aufmarsh 25
        и
        Marita
        .
        1. Dashing
          Dashing April 17 2018 14: 58
          0
          The territories that became part of Bulgaria. Otherwise, the contract would not have been signed by the Bulgarian Foreign Minister. I do not deny that the majority of the people of Bulgaria were against the Germans and actively supported the USSR theoretically. And the Popular Front was, and Todor Zhivkov. But Bulgaria was not an official ally of the "little brothers," and it was faithful to the Germans until the very declaration of war by the Soviet Union.
  13. Alex_59
    Alex_59 April 16 2018 15: 34
    +3
    The second world war with inhuman bitterness and exertion of forces was fought only on the Eastern Front. And only two states — the Soviet Union and the Third Reich — paid for all the bills.
    China, Japan? No, they didn’t hear ...
    But Norway set a record for surrender to capitulation among European defeatist countries. This country was conquered by the Reich in general in one day.
    Before you write, you must at least read Wikipedia. Norway just resisted as best she could.
  14. Cartalon
    Cartalon April 16 2018 17: 28
    +2
    In one day, not Norway was occupied, but Denmark, I did not read further, another nonsense.
  15. nnz226
    nnz226 April 16 2018 17: 57
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    As A. Wasserman correctly said: "If Europe is ready to revise the results of the Second World War, Russia should be ready to REVIEW these results!" The howitzer B-4 on direct fire on Berlin street is a very wonderful sight! And another poet correctly said: "Nobody is forgotten, and NOTHING IS FORGOTTEN!". Europe’s debts to Russia during World War II did not decay from time to time. Still have to return a hundredfold ....
  16. Dashing
    Dashing April 16 2018 17: 57
    +1
    A beautiful, understandable and nagging article. Thanks to the author.
    1. Huumi
      Huumi April 16 2018 19: 56
      +1
      especially about Norway I liked it, 1 day of resistance))) there it just was! Denmark capitulated after dinner ... Before your heart gets pinched again, think about whether you can take any nonsense written by a layman
      1. Dashing
        Dashing April 16 2018 20: 01
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        Oh, Vanya, I’m talking about the spirit of the article. Mistakes happen to authors. And you, apparently, from the throat pack of "know-it-alls". Write yourself good material, and we will read, see who is a layman, who is simply critical.
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        2. Cartalon
          Cartalon April 16 2018 22: 18
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          Mistakes? The author has no idea what he is writing about.
  17. Arakius
    Arakius April 17 2018 01: 05
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    It must be understood and remembered that in the forty-first year almost the entire 450 millionth continental Europe fought against us. Then everyone fell under the German banners: Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles, Spaniards, Italians, Danes, Dutch, Croats, Bulgarians, Finns, Romanians ... Almost everything except the English. More than 200 thousand people fought alone in the Wehrmacht.

    Russian forgot. They fought for the Germans more than the French
  18. Titsen
    Titsen April 24 2018 07: 05
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    Quote: apro
    You don’t have to look for meaning where it doesn’t exist. Each side of the conflict fulfilled its role. The Germans hammer the USSR with an anvil. Angles solved their problems by provocations. Americans chopped dibs and cut spheres of influence. Europe finally lost its civilizational role and influence in the world after a series of defeats from English. The USSR is somewhat more complicated. The IVS Stalin team tried to build a new economic and social system. But the environment did not welcome these attempts. With the death of the leader, everything merged. For the bun.
    Today I am trying to pull the victory of the USSR onto a new Russia. But the meaning of victory and its results in no way reflect the goal-setting of the new Russians.


    What are you talking about!

    5 column continues its work!