Telegram blocked. Court allowed

The Tagansky Court of Moscow decided to satisfy the claim of Roskomnadzor about blocking the Telegram messenger in Russia. The court took 20 minutes to consider the suit, and a decision was made in 40 minutes later. Roskomnadzor allowed to implement this measure immediately.

Recall the requirement to block the messenger in Russia filed Roskomnadzor. The reason was that the company management refused to provide encryption keys to the FSB. In addition, the department noted that the information that is distributed through the Telegram may contain information that can be used by terrorist organizations, which may threaten the security of the Russian Federation.

However, the company itself stated that it was technically impossible to fulfill these requirements. Also, representatives of Telegram asked to postpone the trial. However, the judge rejected this request, noting that the company had enough time to prepare for the process. Telegram lawyers did not attend the meeting, saying that the founder of the messenger Pavel Durov forbade them to "legitimize a frank farce with their presence."

At the same time, representatives of the FSB fully supported the requirements of Roskomnadzor to block Telegram. The security department noted that the grounds for non-compliance with their requirements are illegal. And the management of the messenger did not provide a justification for the impossibility of handing over the keys.

Comments

[210ox]

Hello to the stubborn Durov! Although all sorts of stubborn climb to other resources.

[Dmitry 2246]

It's funny to see who raises a howl.

[Sam_gosling]

It's funny to see that the meaning of blocking was equated to blocking the same root tracker.
The proxy then works.

[Alex_59]

Quote: Sam_gosling

The proxy then works.

Shhhhhhh !!!! Do not spoil the joy of people. It is said - blocked, then blocked. The newspapers will not lie)))))))

[Ryazan87]

"What is the main topic on the sidelines of the Krasnoyarsk Economic Forum?
Upcoming Telegram Lock.
Officials, deputies and businessmen massively establish a VPN. Well, who has not had ... "

[Stas157]

Quote: Dmitry 2246

It's funny to see who raises a howl.

You are the first!

[Shurik70]

Blocking communications on the basis of “can’t eavesdrop” is stupid. Farce, as Durov correctly said.
Any gangster or terrorist can use any method of sending already encrypted files, which FIG decrypts in addition to the addressee. Encryption methods - until fig. So not providing keys is just an excuse.
They probably demanded a bribe, but he did not.

[Dormidont]

Durov - the spiritual son of Chubais

[Shurik70]

When I go by taxi, I don’t care about the moral qualities of a taxi driver, just not to be smelly and not try to pester me.
Telegram is used by many. This blow is primarily against them

[Orionvit]

Quote: Shurik70

Telegram is used by many. This blow is primarily against them

Unhappy, they will not survive, they will die right now without a "telegram". Let them say hello to Durov.

[KAV]

The situation is simple to disgrace.
Two categories of citizens began to yell:
1. Those to whom this op and tantrum were paid;
2. Those who have something to be afraid of, read, they live a completely dishonest life in a telegram, and not only in it.
That's all!
The rest, with the possible exception of the paranoid, can absolutely spit on this telegram and others like it! For an honest citizen has nothing to hide from the FSB! In addition, those who know how SORM works, and are law-abiding citizens, are well aware that they will not even fall into the "sight" of special services. Accordingly, no one will know about their intimate desires and relationships!
From here there is one simple conclusion: all those who destroy one way or another violate the law of the Russian Federation, and from this they are very worried about their anonymity, hiding behind the points of the constitution, far-fetched!
PS The secret of personal life has nothing to do with encryption keys, because the keys themselves do not contain confidential information! The messages themselves contain it! But the FSB did not require Durov to provide all the correspondence of users. That's all.

[Daniel]

A few hours after the blocking, Durov announced that Telegram will use the built-in means to bypass the locks, which do not require any additional actions from the user. A curtain.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Dormidont

Durov - the spiritual son of Chubais

ha ha ha Nedimon has already broken his iPhone

[Baby sitter]

tell about this striped or burry for example ...

[Stas157]

Quote: Baby sitter

tell about this striped or burry for example ...

What is the difference between the Kremlin and the striped ones if they put their ears in other people's underpants?
Citizens who have nothing to hide, let them go naked! Normal people need an intimate area.

[Baby sitter]

Each house has a toilet and shower (bath). few?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Shurik70

Any gangster or terrorist can use any method of sending already encrypted files

But this will already cause the FSB to suspect

[Rostislav]

Well, yes, you still need to train cryptography of a bearded jihadist. And then without any problems, I would be able to read the instructions received.
Durov’s position is more than dubious. If there really is no way to provide keys, why is this not supported by evidence?
Or is he a hidden lord and is therefore sure that he, like May and Johnson, should take every word?

[telobezumnoe]

instant messengers that can encrypt a lot of data, and the same votsap or skype doesn’t stir anything to block, although they do not even store user data in Russia as the spring law ascribes it. there is still a lot of jabber clients capable of encrypting data, transmitting them via secure channels, which are encrypted again .. there’s more PR, and do you think that with the disappearance of the telegram the level of attack will at least somehow change? Instead of creating a normal legal framework, we are now building a penal economy where it becomes profitable because more people are violating something, the main thing is not to rebuild and pay fines properly, that’s all the lawmaking is aimed at how to make money from it, conditions will not be created so that a person doesn’t it made sense to break something

[Orionvit]

Quote: Shurik70

So not providing keys is just an excuse.

What does occasion mean? There are laws in the state that must be observed. And not so, I do what I want, and if not in my opinion, immediately shout "about violation of freedom of speech."

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Shurik70

They probably demanded a bribe, but he did not.

One hundred pudoff!

[Glory1974]

Blocking communications on the basis of “can’t eavesdrop” is stupid. Farce, as Durov correctly said.

So in general it is pointless to fight criminals. If they conceived, they would commit a crime anyway. It is necessary to leave only the Ministry of Emergencies in order to eliminate the consequences, and reduce the police.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Alex_59

Shhhhhhh !!!! Do not spoil the joy of people. It is said - blocked, then blocked. The newspapers will not lie)))))))

+100500 Nedimon said that it would be hard, but soon wild garlic and nettle would "go" and it would become easier Down with telegrams, instagrams, ICQ and "cheburator" is our everything .. Yes Hello sanctions and sanctions.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Sam_gosling

equated to blocking the same rutreker

but but but....
you’ll be more careful there on the holy ... otherwise we’ll remain without a freebie ....

[seti]

Already raised. Personally, it’s not cold or hot from this program.

[Dr. Sorge]

The liberoids are already written as much below :)

[MadCat]

Quote: 210ox

Hello to the stubborn Durov! Although all sorts of stubborn climb to other resources.

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

[just exp]

+1 I’m an ardent putinoid, but I am against the fact that the special forces would control all traffic in general.

[kot28.ru]

Explain, are you really so naive and you think that not a single intelligence service grazes this network? not ours, so alien, but they know a lot about you

[vadsonen]

Which once again proves that the main activity of the FSB is racketeering and spinning.

[vadimtt]

What did you spin? It’s just that the FSB (and the FSB with the FSB), by their actions, started the process of creating secure decentralized anonymous networks that are fundamentally impossible to “block”, “listen to” and find out “who it is”. And now they themselves will not pull out the necessary information, they have played out, (... the words of Lavrov ...). The first flowers already exist - the same I2P.

[sogdy]

Quote: vadimtt

The first flowers already exist - the same I2P.

Has the oak tree collapsed? This is the main tool of electronic survey.

[vadimtt]

Do not worry, sees an eye and a tooth is numb ...

[sogdy]

I'm not worried. Advertising ripped button accordions amusing.

[Lopatov]

Quote: MadCat

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

The question is different. There is a law, and it must be obeyed. Durov promised, Durov did not fulfill. Durov in accordance with Russian law has achieved a block. This is an advertisement. Aimed primarily at users outside of Russia. Well, the problems and inconveniences of the Russian Durov are not particularly worrying.

[Benjamin Gnomes]

Quote: Spade

Quote: MadCat

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

The question is different. There is a law, and it must be obeyed. Durov promised, Durov did not fulfill. Durov in accordance with Russian law has achieved a block. This is an advertisement. Aimed primarily at users outside of Russia. Well, the problems and inconveniences of the Russian Durov are not particularly worrying.

What law did Durov violate? the Constitution states the right of everyone to privacy, telephone conversations. Durov just observes this. But the fact that everyone will be constantly monitored by garbage, under the murky pretext of protecting against terrorists, is, excuse me, a piece of homna.

[Alex_59]

Quote: Benjamin Gnomes

What law did Durov violate? the Constitution states the right of everyone to privacy, telephone conversations. Durov just observes this. But the fact that everyone will be constantly monitored by garbage, under the murky pretext of protecting against terrorists, is, excuse me, a piece of homna.

Life has turned into a complete sur. First of all, the point is that they will keep track of the garbage of FIGs even if they open all accesses to them anywhere - there are such volumes of traffic that it is not realistic to track it. Secondly, basmachi or nariks, even in the open air, will find what terms and signals to use so as not to burn into the automatic processing of traffic. Already if you are a basmach, then do not write in the chat about "Alla I to the bar." I think for this a couple of basmak gyrus is enough. As a result of this, the FSB and others could direct their persistence in relation to the Cart to other methods of reconnaissance and undercover work. Something I doubt that in the USSR every paper letter, parcel or telegram was opened and read. Specialists need to work targeted, otherwise it is stupid work. Thirdly, it is really written in the constitution, so the FSB wants to violate the constitution. Here is such nonsense. Achieve that does not help in any way, violating the law.

[sogdy]

Quote: Alex_59

I think for this a couple of basmak gyrus is enough. As a result of this, the FSB and others could send

Quote: Alex_59

The FSB wants to violate the constitution. Here is such nonsense.

Chukchi is not a reader? Chukchi caster!
Cho to write nonsense? Boring girls ...

[Glory1974]

Achieve that does not help in any way, violating the law.

And the FSB fools did not know this.

[Baby sitter]

Why aren’t we excited against telephone communications? or do you only secret in a telegram?

[sogdy]

And they didn’t have a team; they don’t write out orders for phone calls.

[reservist]

so for a long time it’s been impossible to buy a scrambler for a phone or a radio station with a scrambler ...
but without conversation encryption what secrets might be ...

[Baby sitter]

completely lazy, do not want to learn to "work on a hairdryer." :)

[Piramidon]

Quote: MadCat

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

So what, on "Telegram" light wedge converged?

[electrooleg]

Quote: MadCat

Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

They have not yet grown twist. While there are people like Yarovaya there, they will never wind anything up. Etozh certified "kings of the Internet", with the wildest education in the field of IT

[Orionvit]

Quote: MadCat

Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

Yeah, I see, they screwed up so much that my eyes got out. And here is the iron curtain, why carry nonsense. In my opinion, in Russia, in contrast to the "enlightened" west, you can say whatever you want, whatever you want. But tomorrow, “good-natured radicals” will again blow up the metro and people like you will first begin to howl about the “powerlessness” of the special services and the government.

[Stas157]

Quote: MadCat

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

They dream how to live in a matrix! The glory of House 2 does not give a good half of forum users peace!

[Maz]

Nonsense. In the CART information appears a day earlier than in information agencies. You need to be able to sift it out. In addition to circumvent this ban - just spit. :
Warjournal
Or put a VPN (generally simple and universal):
If there is no money, use the bot (https://t.me/socks5_bot) or click here (http://fuckrkn.us/) the “get free” button. These are free proxies - Telegram can theoretically work with them, but there will be problems with links and other prohibitions. Therefore we recommend VPN

[sogdy]

Maz, nmap sees all VPNs. And you can connect to them. In the same Astra. And even disconnect the client. And what is the cynus?
For what purpose is advertising a button accordion, and even a ragged one ?!

[Zaval]

Personally, I am neither warm nor cold from telegrams. But if it is used by terrorists, drug dealers and other trash - it is better if it does not exist.

[Blackmokona]

Terrorists, drug dealers and other trash uses roads! Ban roads!

[Muvka]

Quote: BlackMokona

Terrorists, drug dealers and other trash uses roads! Ban roads!

Roads can be controlled by special services. But there are no telegrams. So your comparison does not roll.

[Blackmokona]

Are roads controlled by special services? So the whole flow of drugs and weapons through them comes with their consent?

[Muvka]

No. But they have controls. To control 100% of traffic is unrealistic. But in the telegram, they did not want to control all traffic, but only by court order. In general, the traffic police and the traffic police have access to the road system and control as much as possible.

[would]

In Telegram, they wanted to control exactly all the traffic, according to the current legislation, they should have keys to decrypt all encrypted traffic. They requested them. Durov logically refused otherwise Telegram from an anonymous messenger would simply turn into another messenger and lose a strong competitive advantage.

[sogdy]

Quote: BlackMokona

So the whole flow of drugs and weapons through them comes with their consent?

Wrong statement of the question. If you can’t close, head and regulate.
And yes, it’s very strange that you don’t know that we have a minimum of roads.

[Muvka]

Who is dear, who has brains ...

[Sharky]

But if it is used by terrorists, drug dealers and other trash - it is better if it does not exist.

And they also use forks and spoons to eat from the plates. Prohibit forks and spoons, and plates!
After all, the security services cannot control the sale of plates, forks and spoons!
Selling forks, spoons and plates, you help the terrorists survive by organizing their food! And who cares that they can eat with their hands, right?

[KAV]

Quote: Sharky

And they also use forks and spoons to eat from the plates. Prohibit forks and spoons, and plates!

Well, it’s not funny from what’s written by yourself ?!

Quote: Sharky

Selling forks, spoons and plates, you help the terrorists survive by organizing their food! And who cares that they can eat with their hands, right?

And let's ban the air ?! So that people like you do not spoil it !!! They will write xp * e * n, and they think that it turned out very witty!

[Sharky]

And let's ban the air ?! So that people like you do not spoil it !!! They will write xp * e * n, and they think that it turned out very witty!

Unfortunately, your level of development and the scarcity of intelligence do not allow you to understand what I wrote. The situation with the ban of the telegram is absurd, contrary to the constitution. Therefore, my sparkling humor came to the place .

[Maz]

Well, I'm sorry for you in that case
Yeah, only the Russian law enforcement agencies haven’t left the channel! And they still work in Telegram! And they give information there directly: https://t.me/SIL0VIKI
The most correct behavior in this situation is to bypass the lock, and help your loved ones who can’t do it on their own to do it.
This is currently the only effective, truly effective way to protest.

Now all the convenient and free block bypass services are overloaded - be patient, everything will return to normal soon. If possible, be sure to buy yourself and your loved ones a reliable VPN.

[Greenwood]

Quote: ZAVal

Personally, I am neither warm nor cold from telegrams.

What messengers do you use? What social networks?

[Stas157]

Quote: Greenwood

Quote: ZAVal

Personally, I am neither warm nor cold from telegrams.

What messengers do you use? What social networks?

He does not know what it is. He exchanges messengers with grannies on a bench. He does not need a telegram!

[moscowp]

And they talk to each other. It would also be nice to prohibit talking

[Greenwood]

Quote: moscowp

It would also be nice to prohibit talking

Nenene, you must introduce a tax on the conversation. For every word spoken, the ruble. =) Wow, how to fill the budget.

[Romario_Argo]

Durov just receives a salary at the American Embassy (!)
to drive such business patriots from Russia to the neck

[Sam_gosling]

So his FSB from Russia kicked back in '14 ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sam_gosling

So his FSB from Russia kicked back in '14 ...

Polonium in the bins is over, but the "newbie" has not yet been delivered? 8))))))))))

[just exp]

Well, he came up with a type of VKontakte, it also came from the American embassy?

[Sam_gosling]

Well, at least the taxes are not from the American embassy ...

[Romario_Argo]

business - business, and to be an accomplice of terrorists is definitely the highest measure (!)
* it is unfortunate that we have a moratorium
* It’s fashionable to collaborate with terrorists in the USA, France, England - it’s a direct flash mob

[telobezumnoe]

the French turned out that everything was controlled via SMS, which means that the telecom operators are accomplices of the terrorists ... if we live with them without cell phones and the Internet, because this achievement allows you to plan something terrible. Yes, that messengers, the yafon is generally unbreakable even for the epp itself, the bourgeois fbi couldn’t decrypt the terrorist’s smartphone and gain access to the correspondence of this moron .. everything is simple, some kind of messengers .. here’s the phone, everything on it and no one will be able to decrypt. it is necessary to forbid everything from enty devices

[The_X_Factor]

This went from Mark Zuckerberg, from whom he borrowed the idea of ​​Facebook.

[Romario_Argo]

and now the OSCE is harnessing this Telegram, but they’re all right ....
Durov apparently accurately works for the US CIA

[jovanni]

... that the founder of the messenger Pavel Durov forbade them to "legitimize the open farce with their presence."

That's what it means to give the criminals concessions ... When this type of policeman in St. Petersburg almost moved, he had to be driven to the full depth. They would send a boor to Komi, there wouldn’t be this telegraph, or maybe Durov himself ...

[Ryazan87]

"- Take this Kant, but for such evidence for three years in Solovki! - Ivan Nikolaevich thumped completely unexpectedly ..." (c)

[Greenwood]

With all my mixed attitude towards Durov, people like him are making progress and developing technologies. While some dark personalities are only able to forbid to be malicious and demand everything.

[sogdy]

I apologize, but what is the progress and its making here? But money on progress - yes. With all the accompanying violations of moral restrictions, especially if they require technical costs - for business.

[Ryazan87]

I apologize, the creation of an information platform that changes the format of people’s communication (primarily business, if about telegrams) and for half a year has become the new and most popular form of media - is it not progress?
Technology itself is only a condition for progress.

[sogdy]

Quote: Ryazanets87

the creation of an information platform that changes the format of communication between people (primarily business, if about telegrams) and in half a year has become the new and most popular form of media

Have you noticed that you contradict yourself? Or "business" - or "media."
And yet, what is the progress? Maybe you also call a bunch of graphomaniacs and diaries "progress"?

[Ryazan87]

Have you even used this messenger?
There is no contradiction here - the functionality of the "cart" allows a lot, including:
- Working groups to discuss issues - created from departments of commercial companies to working groups to discuss legislative activities. This is a business communication.
- Information channels (by the way, from leading publications too) about politics, economics, and military affairs. That was the media. In the information field of the Russian Federation, there was no better alternative.
"same progress" - is to change the conditions for the exchange of information. Well, do you understand the difference between a paper letter and an electronic one?

[KAV]

Quote: Ryazanets87

Have you even used this messenger?
There is no contradiction here - the functionality of the "cart" allows a lot, including:
- Working groups to discuss issues - created from departments of commercial companies to working groups to discuss legislative activities. This is a business communication.
- Information channels (by the way, from leading publications too) about politics, economics, and military affairs. That was the media. In the information field of the Russian Federation, there was no better alternative.
"same progress" - is to change the conditions for the exchange of information. Well, do you understand the difference between a paper letter and an electronic one?

Here you did not name anything innovative, in relation to other messengers, which other people also successfully use.

[Ryazan87]

Can you give at least one example of a messenger that played the role of the popular media in Russia? I'm talking about this:
"- Information channels (by the way, from leading publications too) about politics, economics, military affairs. It was the media. In the information field of the Russian Federation, there was no better alternative."

[KAV]

Quote: Ryazanets87

by the way, from leading publications too

From which leading, eg?

[telobezumnoe]

Today I went to our Orthodox Rostelecom, they suddenly decided to increase the tariffs, according to them, to the average market indicators, and neither in my personal account nor in the mail did I receive any notifications about the tariff change. Well, I think I need to contact them, I found a button in "write to us" which looms constantly to the right of the screen, and lo and behold, telegrams are loaded right there (it was already at 9 yesterday) and through the bot I contact the operators, I did not expect such a convenience, but .. that’s all the convenience ended with a grim communication of the support service, which for a long time did not want to turn off the service, persuading me to stay, and then informed me if I refuse the service, then the Internet will cost me 3 times more expensive)) it’s also necessary with a written statement go to their office, but .. the cart service was shown to me very convenient

[Ryazan87]

Vedomosti, Kommersant, Izvestia, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, TASS. Enough? Or Russia Today and Life to mention too? Or the official channels of federal ministries (the Foreign Ministry had, by the way)?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: BlackMokona

Terrorists, drug dealers and other trash uses roads! Ban roads!

On the roads, this trash is caught, and in a telegram they are like a fish in water

[Blackmokona]

Therefore, the country suffocates in drugs, so they catch it well

[The_X_Factor]

Do not use, just choke.

[Blackmokona]

From an addict ready for any crime for the sake of a new dose, you won’t stop using it. The more drugs in the country, the more these inadequacies in the streets. And yet your son or daughter can become inadequate!

[The_X_Factor]

Your son or daughter cannot become like this. Once again - do not use. No one will buy - there will be no problem.

[free]

Quote: The_X_Factor

Your son or daughter cannot become like this. Once again - do not use. No one will buy - there will be no problem.

You don’t eat and don’t have to go to the toilet. And that means we’ll save more trees (no toilet paper) and water at the same time (you don’t need to wash off, you don’t need to wash your hands either). Do you understand what you’re writing? If you do not live in the forest, then the problems of those who could not resist will become your problems! You need to change the system, and not hide your head in the sand.

[The_X_Factor]

Well, don’t eat, Lord. The modern world provides you with a gigantic degree of freedom - use, not limit others. Begin with yourself.

[free]

Quote: The_X_Factor

Well, don’t eat, Lord. The modern world provides you with a gigantic degree of freedom - use, not limit others. Begin with yourself.

Sometimes it's better to chew than write!

[The_X_Factor]

Chew and do not write.

[sogdy]

Quote: BlackMokona

From a drug addict ready for any crime for a new dose

Read with theatrical howl!

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vol4ara

and in a telegram they are like a fish in water

Dozens of messengers. And let's ban everything? And social networks too, especially the enemy Facebook.

[Dormidont]

it would be nice

[Greenwood]

So what's so good about it?

[The_X_Factor]

Nothing bad. Facebook is useful as an opportunity to find friends from a foreign country and practice their mobile skills. And so it does not even have a free and safe bang, unlike VK, as an example.

[Greenwood]

Quote: The_X_Factor

Facebook is useful as an opportunity to find friends from a foreign country and practice their mobile skills.

Precisely because it’s international. Unlike VKontakte, which is common only in the CIS.

Quote: The_X_Factor

And so it doesn’t even have a free and safe bang

Damn, I didn’t even think about this.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Greenwood

Dozens of messengers. And let's ban everything?

Those that provide the required information are not prohibited. Use on health.

[Ryazan87]

You will not be difficult to give a list of these?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ryazanets87

You will not be difficult to give a list of these?

And you yourself in all search engines banned, or what? WhatsApp, Viber, Facebook Messenger, Skype, ICQ, Google Hangouts .... Then you can search yourself further.

[Ryazan87]

I meant the list of instant messengers that, in your words, “Provide the required info.”
I wasn’t banned from the search engine, for example, the opinion of, for example, Mr. Nikiforov, Minister of Telecom and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=75&am
p; v = GRzxbzZJnnY
You look, then (if the desire does not disappear), please answer my question.

[kolyhalovs]

Nothing happened. The telegram has a built-in lock bypass setting. Write any proxy and that's it. In general, can anyone give an example of at least one successful blocking on the Web? Rutreker bent down and go there? Yes Yes...

[Greenwood]

Quote: kolyhalovs

Rutreker bent down and go there?

Rutreker, I remember, even carried out “exercises” with users by blocking himself in order to teach people to bypass locks in advance.

[Benjamin Gnomes]

Clowns)) welcome to whatsapp) and maybe we will ban the Internet, there are also drug dealers, and terrorists, and a mee-clown, we’ll make it like a fat trick in Korea - the state Internet, duplicating the first channel) we’ll live))

[Greenwood]

Quote: Benjamin Gnomes

welcome to whatsap)

Line already banned, freaks damn it. So get to this.

[Benjamin Gnomes]

What is Line? also a messenger?

[Greenwood]

Japanese messenger. Primary in Asian countries. If you have friends in Japan, Korea, China, etc., then you have to communicate in it, they do not know about WhatsApp, Cart, etc. When they blocked him last year, they stopped sending me messages from Japanese friends. Fortunately, VPN involved.

[Benjamin Gnomes]

I see. Thanks. No, I have no friends in Asia. As for the VPN, can it be installed on any modem, or on certain models only?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Benjamin Gnomes

can it be installed on any modem, or on certain models only?

This is a software solution, it does not put on a modem. You configure it in your computer or on the phone, or register on already running services. Google what a VPN is, it says in detail how to use it.

[Benjamin Gnomes]

So I googled it) and it turned out to me that they say I need a modem of a certain model. I did not understand about it.

[reservist]

if there is a gadget from the Samsung, then in any firmware for the Asian region, Line will probably be found among the pre-installed applications
so to speak local alternative to skype

[kolyhalovs]

make fat bumpkin in Korea - the state internet

This, by the way, is the only real way to block some kind of resource on the Web. That is, create a register of resources registered in Russia and allow access only to them.

[Dr. Sorge]

And how is your gold?

[tadeptus]

There is information that terrorists communicate using words. Urgently, we must, no, we are obliged to prohibit words in order to protect ourselves. And you need to destroy the pigeons, they can deliver notes of terrorists. But there is one more suggestion. Ban people. It is people who become terrorists. Infa 100 !!!!

[tadeptus]

oh yes and still here that more taxes are needed. then the terrorists will not have money for weapons.

[Kalmar]

Hooray, finally defeated all terrorism, pedophilia, drug trafficking, and what else is there without a telegram? Oh yes, spiritual fasteners now definitely can’t be unfastened :)

[Greenwood]

They also found a problem for me. Raise the VPN (or use the public ones), set the proxy in the settings and no problem. Just as it was with rutracker and other torrents. In general, Roskomnadzor once again showed its complete technical incompetence and unwillingness to engage in real work.

[Alex_59]

Quote: Greenwood

They also found a problem for me. Raise the VPN (or use the public ones), set the proxy in the settings and no problem. Just as it was with rutracker and other torrents. In general, Roskomnadzor once again showed its complete technical incompetence and unwillingness to engage in real work.

The same people are sitting in Roskomnadzor, and I think they are in the same surprise as the rest from orders from above. And the bottom line is that the state needs to be done beautifully with a bad game. Show who is senior in the hut. Millions of housewives do not use a cart or a tytruba. They will turn on the drawer in the evening, and they will be told there that the cart was blocked in full, so that the mouse will not slip, and that’s because the cart covers the terrorists, Trump and contributes to the development of masturbation in homosapience larvae. And that’s it. Housewives are thrilled. The state is thrilled. Users are thrilled (they know what Proxy is).
Show mast go he!

[sogdy]

Quote: Alex_59

Millions of housewives do not use a cart or a tytruba. They turn on the drawer in the evening, and they will be told there

And yet you are against simple human happiness? What about patchoum?

[Dormidont]

Next in line is Facebook and the rest of the trash

[GUSAR]

Duck disconnect from the Internet! There is so much abomination fu!

[Remir Mursalimov]

Intelligence agencies are imitating the fight against terrorism, in any game on the phone you can create a chat and communicate and track it is almost impossible to dozens of games every day.

[Greenwood]

Yes, these chats and instant messengers dozens and hundreds. We go into PlayMarket and choose for every taste. Many also have Windows versions, which is generally convenient.

[sogdy]

Quote: Greenwood

Yes, these chats and instant messengers dozens and hundreds.

But religion doesn’t order to call and talk?

[Greenwood]

Calling is not always convenient, ok? Speaking about a person because of some little things is stupid. Plus, communication in groups also does not imply that participants will call each other.

[Dr. Sorge]

ABOUT! Good news!

[Dr. Sorge]

How many zmagars on the site, all the "bloody g ,, bnya" interferes with living and writing :) Some howls and groans .. :) And tomorrow there will be no one to pay to the tramp-tararams and trolls :)

[TOPchymBA]

What a nightmare!!! "Blocked" another chat-writer. How to live on ???
Well, at least they did not disgrace, but took an example from the Saudis. They that they cannot read the special services are simply blocked.

[Ryazan87]

You know, the Saudis are a very dubious role model. Personally for me, at least. And the DPRK too).
Maybe we will not "disgrace" and at the same time introduce an absolute monarchy. Well, corporal punishment, of course. AND?

[Greenwood]

Quote: TOPchymBA

Well, at least they did not disgrace, but took an example from the Saudis.

We have democracy, no ?!

[iouris]

Etcho, sanction against Kadyrov? It’s better to fire everyone who writes on Twitter.

[Antidote]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: MadCat

and what are you enjoying? Nuts twisted, miss the iron curtain?

So what, on "Telegram" light wedge converged?

When the Nazis brought the Communists in, I was silent; I wasn't a communist.
When they locked up the Social Democrats, I was silent; I wasn't a social democrat.
When they called the unionists, I was silent; I wasn't a trade unionist.
When they came for me, there was no one left to protest.

[Polkovnik parker]

What problems, turn on the proxy, and opa on, everything works.

[Clueless]

Power! Cut people tongues and break their hands, they use these devices to speak and write, then we will definitely defeat terrorism.
Prohibit mobile phones, e-mail, the Internet - then we will definitely defeat terrorism.

But seriously - thanks to our stupid officials that we will lose a lot of investment in the country, and the specialists who will bring it out even faster. :(

[Clueless]

Quote: TOPchymBA

What a nightmare!!! "Blocked" another chat-writer. How to live on ???
Well, at least they did not disgrace, but took an example from the Saudis. They that they cannot read the special services are simply blocked.

Comrade, if you do not know what a Telegram is, go to a thought, there are a lot of idiots.
A telegram is not a current talker, it is an ideal tool that allows you to automate many processes thanks to bots, groups, etc. Even the Kremlin used this talker.

[TOPchymBA]

Yes, the site is very bad with humor. (This is about the blocked talker-writer - for those who are on an armored train).
For the other two commentators, to begin with, google how the Saudi authorities solve the problem of unreadable data for their special services. Then give your capacious comments.
Although sorry - I completely forgot that today is Friday and someone has already managed ...

[Comrade Kim]

Durov fulfilled all the conditions of the NSA and the FBI to continue the work of telegram in the United States.
To fulfill the same conditions set by the domestic special services, he considers below his dignity.
Hypocrite and Russophobe in one dull little body.
https://tsargrad.tv/news/durov-ne-otdaet-kljuchi-
fsb-no-rabotaet-na-ssha-jekspert-raskryl-glavnuju
-prichinu-blokirovku-telegram_125277
“Durov does not give the keys to the FSB, but works in the USA” - expert revealed the main reason for blocking Telegram
I am absolutely sure that Pasha does not give the keys to the FSB or Roskomnadzor, but gives them to the Americans. Because there was an episode when he submitted data, in particular, to the American Securities Commission. And there was a minor episode when he was also asked for keys, and somehow it all disappeared from the media. That is, I am sure that Pasha is cooperating with Western intelligence agencies.
Those who are behind Deputy Chairman Durov:
Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Mirilashvili (born March 1, 1984, St. Petersburg) is a co-founder and former co-owner of the social network Vkontakte, the youngest dollar billionaire in Russia (for 2013) [1].
He studied at Tufts American University, then returned to Russia and in 2006, together with Pavel Durov, created the Vkontakte website with the money of his father. Durov and Jew Lev Leviev became minority shareholders.
We have: ingenious Mirilashvili and Leviev. But the public is shown a brilliant fool-Durov.

[Clueless]

Quote: Comrade Kim

Durov fulfilled all the conditions of the NSA and the FBI to continue the work of telegram in the United States.
To fulfill the same conditions set by the domestic special services, he considers below his dignity.
Hypocrite and Russophobe in one dull little body.

1. Durov didn’t pass the keys to anyone, believe less in the yellow press
2. Enough to keep us here for idiots, hanging us on the ears

[TOPchymBA]

Quote: Bad

Quote: Comrade Kim

Durov fulfilled all the conditions of the NSA and the FBI to continue the work of telegram in the United States.
To fulfill the same conditions set by the domestic special services, he considers below his dignity.
Hypocrite and Russophobe in one dull little body.

1. Durov didn’t pass the keys to anyone, believe less in the yellow press
2. Enough to keep us here for idiots, hanging us on the ears

Comment of a major specialist ,,

[Clueless]

Quote: TOPchymBA

Comment of a major specialist ,,

Well, bigger than yours;)
Durov is not in one country, he did not pass the keys to this product, because encryption itself and its services are the core of the product. Give the keys and there will be no product.

[Mentat]

Quote: Shurik70

Any gangster or terrorist can use any method of sending already encrypted files, which FIG decrypts in addition to the addressee.

And instantly attract attention. Good morning.
In addition, "FIG who decrypts" at least debatable.

[Mentat]

Quote: kolyhalovs

Nothing happened. The telegram has a built-in lock bypass setting. Write any proxy and that's it. In general, can anyone give an example of at least one successful blocking on the Web? Rutreker bent down and go there? Yes Yes...

There are thousands of “successful locks”. They are made by cutting out a site from all the annals if it poses a real threat. Rutreker and co is the formality of pure water. This kind of blocking is more of an enhanced warning to users about content.

[would]

Well, let’s show us "cutting out the site from all the annals." It is especially interesting how to cut it, for example, from Sweden where Wikileaks is currently hosted and where the intelligence services of all Western countries cannot remove it from.

[Beltasir matyagu]

There is always a master key. Kimono buddle can stick his middle finger in his

[Loess]

Blocked and correctly done. They sell nonsense through telegrams of current and are not afraid of anything. It is still a long time with a lock pulled.

[Appraiser]

It's time, rightly done .....

[would]

Once again, we see an imitation of activities from Russian special services and government agencies. On the Internet there are hundreds of different instant messengers through which you can correspond, and those that don’t exist can be written and this is done quite quickly and cheaply.

At the same time, the basics of Internet security tell us that for anonymization we need to use the least known and the most specific services possible. Exactly the same advice I saw in the ISIS leadership on cyber warfare. Telegram, which the governments and special services of several countries laid eyes on, is a very bad option for terrorist attacks, they dig a lot under it and everyone knows about it. That means that only very stupid terrorists will use it, smart people will use another. One of the clever used simple letters and a network of couriers and hiding places through which they were transmitted, the FSB did not track him ... it was Khattab.

Those same bookmarkers generally just use SMS and just QIWI the hell already knows how old.

Have Telegram blocked? “Like yes,” that is, no. It is available using basic means of bypassing locks that can not be dealt with even in China.

So from a security point of view, nothing really has changed. All those who need to use the appropriate solutions and Telegram is not included in them, all Telegram users will continue to use it. But you can report on another major victory over terrorism and the development of budgetary funds allocated for the Spring package written in the USA

However, the company itself stated that allegedly It is technically impossible to fulfill these requirements.

Anyone who wrote this does not own the topic at all. He does not know what end-to-end encryption is and why codes cannot be transmitted from him without any “alleged”.

[Usher]

In general, do not care for telegrams. There is a viber and a shotgun. She doesn’t want to play according to the law, this is the right decision, he was told black and white.

[Mentat]

Quote: rait

Well, let’s show us "cutting out the site from all the annals." It is especially interesting how to cut it, for example, from Sweden where Wikileaks is currently hosted and where the intelligence services of all Western countries cannot remove it from.

There is nothing to show, they even do not exist in web archives. Broken links to such resources are sometimes found in the branches of specific forums, and they sometimes happen to visit special agents involved in this topic. You can see the cutting process on YouTube by typing “the network of pedophiles has been revealed” or “the leader of the terrorists has been eliminated”, that's how they are being cut.
About Wikileaks, you are very naive.