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His Majesty weapons of mass destruction

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There is a concept "weapon mass destruction. "We understand this phrase primarily nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. That is what, in theory, you can easily destroy all of humanity.

But let's think: is it right? Do these types of weapons really carried away and continue to take human lives every day? It is rather a weapon of a hypothetical war. What can theoretically, but in reality, people are killed very differently.

What is the most terrible weapon in the Donbass in capable hands today? In Syria? In other hot spots? Machine? Sniper rifle? Tank? Cannons

Alas, but most of all soldier’s (and not only soldier’s) lives are taken by mortar fire. That mortar should be called a weapon of mass destruction.

But this weapon appeared thanks to the Russian military engineering education and the Russian ingenuity! Appeared a little more 100 years ago.

History its creation is worth remembering, and we will do it with pleasure, since the mortar talk, like the mortar shelling, will be long and thorough.

Russian-Japanese war. The defense of Port Arthur. The Japanese, having failed to knock out defenders by attacks in the forehead, began a siege using engineering structures. In a short time, with the help of sap, they approached the defenders so closely that in some areas they talked with the Russians without raising their voices. At the same time, "on the surface" of the Japanese soldier could be seen infrequently. Trenches, trenches, capped slits, dugouts ...

The use of artillery in such conditions is impossible. Too great risk of hitting on their own positions. However, the proximity factor helped the Japanese in the attacks. Practically sailors fought off attacks on bayonets.

The most dangerous place in the defense was fort number XXUMX. It was there that the breakthrough was being prepared. And in the early November morning, when the Japanese continued to prepare the attack, the Russians suddenly began shelling.

The soldiers answered all the questions of the officers who came to inspect the unexpected results of the shelling: "Flying death", "sings the song of death". In principle, the lyrical component is good, but the morale of the Japanese was lower than nowhere. And the results of the shelling were impressive. Destroyed bunkers, loose trenches, collapsed saps. The usual weapons could not inflict such destruction.

But what was the surprise of the Japanese officers when they brought the shank from the projectile. A shank similar to those used on torpedoes! And the next soldier was holding ... mine! What is it that Russians use some land torpedoes filled with mines?

Complete nonsense!

In fact, we have simplified a little, otherwise it would be all in mines. Torpedoes as such have not yet been. There were the mines of Whitehead, their dad / mom. Which were launched from mineboats, destroyers and destroyers.

Nevertheless, the Russians in Port Arthur did invent something like that. How else to explain this set: the ridiculous parts of a mine case and the destruction caused by them?


The most interesting thing that invented by our compatriots hasn't changed much in 100 years.



And what about the "death song"? The fact is that soldiers and officers on the front line quickly get used to the sounds of battle. They distinguish the caliber of a bullet, projectile or mine by the sound. They can predict the approximate location of the fall of the ammunition. Exactly the same was with the defense of Port Arthur. The siege and ship guns of the soldiers did not care at all, the usual "street noise".

But here the death song appeared. And it began with a deafeningly sonorous note. At the limit of human perception. Then a high sound rang in the air and sort of. And this high, vibrating sound was often the last thing the Japanese heard. "Flying death", "death song" ... orientally poetic and scary ...

Who is the author of this miracle weapon? There are two authors. There are a lot of disputes today, but we are adherents of the version which says that the mortar was invented by the midshipman Sergei Nikolaevich Vlasyev and captain Leonid Nikolayevich Gobyato. More precisely, the midshipman came up with the idea, and the captain-engineer implemented it.

I am sure that many people know the miracle (from our point of view), or the monster (from the Japanese) that they have created. But stories about great weapons do not happen much.

Ship 47-mm guns in defense ineffective. "A bit small kolchuzhka," as the blacksmith said in Alexander Nevsky. So the midshipman decided to make it more powerful. And the head of the workshops helped him.

First of all, the gun was cut. Then installed on the wheeled carriage and ... everything. The short carriage allowed the cannon to be installed in firing trenches with high elevation angles. It would be foolish to speak of a gun "edging" as a brilliant invention. It's just a mortar, right?

Mortar has been known for more than one hundred years. And its steep parabola, which allows throwing a projectile through the walls of the fortress.

Genius is further, in a mine. So, in ship workshops from sheet iron riveted hull min in the form of cones. They stuffed it with pyroxylin and installed a fuse - a pilot glass. Talking about some caliber with this production, you know ...

Then they took the pole. The lower end of the pole was thickened. Mounted on it freely moving impeller stabilizer. And after that the pole was attached to the mine, and in such a way that the impeller was moved to the body. In order to move the impeller after the shot to the end of the pole, ordinary rope is used. Everything! Here you have a brilliant device of the world's first mortar.

Next is Russian savvy. The gun was charged with an ordinary sleeve. But with a secret. The sleeve was covered with a wooden insert with lead wad. Mina obtained over-caliber. A shot, a cork throws out a mine ... Brilliant!

As the midshipman and the captain reached the stabilizer, the main task of which is to turn the mine so that it just hit the fuse on the ground - no one will know.



By the way, the mortar clarified the fundamental difference between the attitude of the Japanese and Russian soldiers to arms. "Flying Death" for the Japanese turned into a "Frog" for Russian. Not a weapon wins. The warrior's skill and fighting spirit wins.

Alas, our country and in those days did not differ quick response. The new weapon got into the meat grinder of bureaucratic approvals and successfully “stuck” there before the First World War. And only at the request of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian army of Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolayevich "The infantry insistently demands mortars, considering them to be his artillery," the war minister, General Sukhomlinov, began producing mortars in Russia.

Thus, the mortars received official recognition already on the fronts of the First World War. But the evolution that began during the First World War is the topic of the following material.
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  1. nikoliski
    nikoliski April 21 2018 05: 38
    +2
    A mortar weapon that does not become obsolete and another 100 years (only do ammunition in step with the times and that's it)
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 05: 57
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      only it was called a mortar and a mortar is another
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 06: 43
        +10
        Quote: YELLOWSTONE
        only it was called a mortar and a mortar is another

        Mortar .... bomb ... By the "big account", all this is verbal casuistry! And no more...
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 07: 06
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          a completely different class of weapons
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 07: 52
            +5
            Quote: YELLOWSTONE
            a completely different class of weapons

            Well .... let it be for you, “a different class of weapons” ... But I ... as I thought mortars and bombs were varieties of one “class of weapons” -MORTAR, I’ll take it ....
            By the way, in many countries they did and are doing it .... mortars are called mortars ...
            1. YELLOWSTONE
              YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 08: 06
              +1
              in almost all, it is rightly believed that modern mortars began with the Stokes system, and that the mortars are closer to the bombers, by the way how do you say Gobyato can claim mortars if the so-called mortars were known from the Middle Ages?
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 09: 34
                +3
                Quote: YELLOWSTONE
                modern mortars began with the Stokes system

                I don’t argue ..... And now take a look at the “most-most” modern (!) Mortars .... Doesn’t it seem to you that these “super-duper” are more and more different from the “classical” Stokes scheme? But, for some reason, they remain mortars ... So why are you trying to deprive the Gobyato’s gun, title, ..... at least a mortar prototype if neither Wikipedia nor the Great Soviet Encyclopedia do this?

                47-mm mortar (!!!) arr. 1915 of Likhonin.
                Well, how? Doesn’t look like a Stokes circuit? And on the mortar?

                245-mm German mortar and "Stokes scheme"?
                And if you are already talking about mortars of "Sredevekovo", then how do you like the mortar Kegorn, which in 1MB you wanted to use as a mortar?
                .
                1. YELLOWSTONE
                  YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 10: 13
                  0
                  argue why ...
                  Gobyato’s gun fired a bomb, Likhonin is also unlike, the Skodovsky 24 cm is a howitzer
                  1. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 11: 00
                    +2
                    Quote: YELLOWSTONE
                    argue why.

                    I won’t .... it makes no sense!
                    1. YELLOWSTONE
                      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 11: 25
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                      there the meaning is not only in the imaginary triangle and Stokes was perfected only by the French Brandt 11 years later
                      1. Grid
                        Grid April 21 2018 12: 12
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                        there the meaning is not only in an imaginary triangle

                        Do you know what is the point?
                2. serg.shishkov2015
                  serg.shishkov2015 April 21 2018 11: 18
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                  as far as I know, they not only wanted to, but also used and even resumed production at the NEO, the source of Infra-A, Shirokorad, Encyclopedia of Russian artillery,
                  1. Grid
                    Grid April 22 2018 05: 13
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                    Pancake. Somewhere on YouTube I came across a WWII chronicle where they shoot vigorously from such a mortar. Now, probably, I will not find, but I will try.
                3. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 12: 30
                  +2
                  PS
                  89-mm "heavy" mortar of the Izhora plant 1916

                  58-mm mortar FR 1915 g.
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 16: 23
                    0
                    so you’ll soon have grenade launchers, including under-barrel and muzzle, will become mortars
              2. Arkady Gaidar
                Arkady Gaidar April 21 2018 09: 50
                +1
                I think I will be able to judge you debaters. Mortar in its modern form, this is really a tool of Stokes (England). As you know, it finally took shape around the year 1916. Stokes combined all the achievements of different countries participating in the First World War into a single design, simplifying and accelerating loading and shooting. But in general, this class of weapons since ancient times is called mortars and bombers. Gobyato revived the endangered class of bombers, called it a bomb gun (which, by the way, is more correct in relation to a mortar), but naturally, the captain did not invent the mortar in its modern form. It all depends on the conditions of the war. Therefore, this class of weapons appeared. Moreover, in less than 10 years, in different forms, from all the warring parties of the First World War. I think it would be more correct to call a mortar a bombardment, and a mine bomb itself, by the method of application. But of course, I do not pretend to be heard))
                1. YELLOWSTONE
                  YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 10: 15
                  0
                  wrong
                  1. Grid
                    Grid April 21 2018 12: 03
                    +2
                    You.
                    This is also a mortar:

                    And this too:

                    And the funny thing is, this is also a mortar:
                    1. YELLOWSTONE
                      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 12: 10
                      0
                      no,
                      for example, what shoots? especially the one below
                      about the middle one (the bomber) was already there, and the first had a short mortar barrel
                      1. Grid
                        Grid April 21 2018 12: 15
                        +2
                        Go and study, otherwise I’m looking in your country of maple leaves, they’re not teaching anything. And most importantly, do not learn to learn.
                        When you learn, we can talk.
                    2. YELLOWSTONE
                      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 12: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Grille
                      Do you know what is the point?

                      what do you think? bully
                2. Operator
                  Operator April 21 2018 11: 03
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                  A bombardment, a mortar, a gobby bomb and a Stokes mortar fire the same way - exceptionally with mounted fire with a small powder charge (with a low initial speed and short range, but with a large casting weight).

                  The Stokes mortar shoots with the smallest of all the powder charges for the maximum lightening of the gun, so he took root in the troops.

                  Now Stokes’s mortars are being superseded by mobile MLRS and hand grenade launchers, including with guided projectiles and grenades.
                  1. Grid
                    Grid April 21 2018 11: 51
                    +3
                    Bombard, mortar, Gobyato bomb and Stokes mortar shoot the same

                    They shoot in completely different ways ... Bother to study the issues of internal ballistics, even at the contraceptive level. Well, if you have enough brains for it ...
                  2. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I April 22 2018 07: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: Operator
                    Bombard, mortar, Gobyato bomb and Stokes mortar

                    "Horses mixed in a bunch ... people ...."!
                3. serg.shishkov2015
                  serg.shishkov2015 April 21 2018 11: 20
                  0
                  you have a good nickname, always respected and loved this person, and not only as a graduate of AGPI named after him, A, P, Gaidar
              3. Grid
                Grid April 21 2018 11: 43
                +5
                in almost all correctly believe that modern mortars began with the Stokes system

                You are extremely mistaken. The Stokes-Brandt system (if it's right) is just one of many. It is optimal only for certain calibers and conditions of use.
                But these units are clearly different:
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 21 2018 13: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: Grille
                  The Stokes-Brandt system (if it's right) is just one of many.

                  And not very successful. Anyone who has had to pull out a plate from the ground for a “quick change” of the shooting sector
                  It’s just the cheapest.
                  Even a simple departure from the “imaginary triangle” for ergonomics (we felt that it was less likely that the “thrower” would hit the tip while loading, hooking the biped) and required expensive materials
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 16: 25
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                    which one is better? bully
                    she pulls out to change positions
                2. YELLOWSTONE
                  YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 13: 09
                  0
                  and the guards jet mortars of the same caliber - even more different yes
  2. Stilet
    Stilet April 21 2018 07: 30
    0
    Know ours!
  3. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 21 2018 08: 28
    0
    The Stokes mortar is the real basis of the modern mortar design. And between the Gobyato and Stokes construction there were so many options in the WWII that it was unrealistic to consider it.
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 10: 21
      0
      Stokes-Brandt, arr. 1927
      the matter is still in the construction of the mine
    2. Grid
      Grid April 21 2018 11: 56
      0
      The Stokes mortar is the real basis of the modern mortar design.

      This is the most common scheme, but far from the only one.
      Many modern mortars have only the design of a shell (mine) from it, and even then not always.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 12: 50
        +2
        Quote: Grille
        The Stokes mortar is the real basis of the modern mortar design.
        This is the most common scheme, but far from the only one.
        Many modern mortars have only the design of a shell (mine) from it, and even then not always

        And the “Hochma” is also that in the first mortar of Stokes the mine was not the one that later became widespread and became “classic”! The "first" Stokes mine was fledgling and in appearance resembled a tin can.

        81 mm Stokes mine
        1. Grid
          Grid April 21 2018 16: 03
          0
          This mine was the most important thing that made this scheme popular. Namely, the tail tube with perforation, which provided the combustion scheme of the powder charge according to the high-low pressure scheme in the simplest way.
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 16: 18
            0
            "high-low pressure" is now fashionable lol just on this tube with a constant charge put on (in the right amount) annular caps with additional ones - how in this case to be with this combustion scheme?
            1. Grid
              Grid April 22 2018 05: 10
              0
              Didn’t you try to think, or does Wikipedia completely replace brains? Hint - keywords:
              just put on this tube with a constant charge

              A constructive element WHAT is this tube?
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 05: 22
                0
                think you try - put on it in different quantities is when and why?
                where does your high-low circuit go after that?
                1. Grid
                  Grid April 22 2018 10: 50
                  0
                  Baby, you’re very badly imagining how the powder burns, in what volume and at what pressure.
                  And therefore come out, you are not interesting to me.
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 13: 03
                    0
                    volume and its quantity does not change from this?
                    play further in your mortars with "high low"
  4. Altona
    Altona April 21 2018 09: 26
    0
    Mines, like mass munitions, were produced at many factories, considered secret military products.
  5. Arkady Gaidar
    Arkady Gaidar April 21 2018 09: 37
    +7
    Alas, the quality of VO materials is falling non-stop. Now they are reprinting materials that can be found in the Soviet press of the 70-80 of the last century. And this is free to make anyone interested in a military theme. Already somewhere in the comments I wrote that if this goes further, they will begin to lose readers, but so far they haven’t reached the editorial office of “military review”. Alas.
  6. da Vinci
    da Vinci April 21 2018 09: 39
    0
    "The new weapon fell into the meat grinder of bureaucratic approvals and successfully got stuck there." This is our fs !!!! tongue
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  8. Des10
    Des10 April 21 2018 10: 57
    +1
    "But let's think: is it right? Do these types of weapons really carried away and continue to take human lives every day? It is rather a weapon of a hypothetical war. What can theoretically, but in reality, people are killed very differently.
    ... Alas, the mortar fire carries the most soldiers (and not only soldiers) lives. That mortar should be called a weapon of mass destruction.
    "
    namely, then kitchen knives - in WMD! laughing
    According to statistics, most of the losses from artillery, but the mortar component - did not find.
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 12: 07
      0
      she is included in the artillery
      1. Des10
        Des10 April 21 2018 12: 54
        0
        logical, understandable and accessible data smile , ... "Alas, the mortar fire carries the most soldiers (and not only soldiers) lives" - there was this statement of the authors.
        1. YELLOWSTONE
          YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 13: 02
          0
          available, she in the arrillery makes up most of
  9. iouris
    iouris April 21 2018 12: 19
    0
    Interestingly, the opinion of experts: was it a fundamentally new military technology invented by the Russians, or was there still no patent purity?
    1. Bormanxnumx
      Bormanxnumx April 21 2018 12: 42
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      Interestingly, the opinion of experts: was it a fundamentally new military technology invented by the Russians, or was there still no patent purity?

      The French “backfired” the French as early as the 1890s to shoot an over-caliber pole vault with a rifled gun.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 21 2018 15: 07
      +3
      Nartov conducted experiments on firing supercaliber (spherical) shells from smooth-bore guns in the 18 century
  10. Operator
    Operator April 21 2018 12: 20
    0
    Quote: Grille
    They shoot in completely different ways.

    And why didn’t you reveal your “overvalued” opinion - an excess of brains? laughing
    1. Grid
      Grid April 21 2018 16: 06
      0
      brain excess?

      You are clearly not observed. I don’t intend to give lectures here especially gifted.
      Engage in self-education.
      1. YELLOWSTONE
        YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 16: 12
        0
        if you do it then the mortar in German is minenwerfer and not morser
        1. Grid
          Grid April 21 2018 16: 19
          0
          What's next?
          For example, in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia mortars called guns that had a barrel elevation angle of 45 degrees or more. And the German Mrs 21cm 18 in modern terms, the howitzer ...
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 16: 37
            0
            and then to start on Wikipedia and read in German, Russian and preferably in English.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_(weapon)#Mod
            ern_portable_mortar
            if in the USSR there was no NVP, life safety at school
            1. Grid
              Grid April 21 2018 17: 24
              0
              and then to start on wikipedia and read

              So you read such an "authoritative" source. To me it is somehow without much need.
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE April 21 2018 23: 28
                0
                even German doesn’t mean anything?
                if in German the mortar is one of the types of mortars,
                1. Grid
                  Grid April 22 2018 10: 57
                  0
                  if in German then the mortar

                  in German I understand myself quite well. But here Wikipedia, where they can defecate, to osly, like you, I don’t trust them.
                  You very well imagine the reason why this or that thing is called in such a way, and not otherwise.
                  Go away, from the gods ...
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 13: 06
                    0
                    Quote: Grille
                    in German I understand myself quite well.

                    in German maybe, but not at all.
                    1. Grid
                      Grid April 25 2018 14: 49
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                      but not at all.

                      I don’t perceive de beat ...
                  2. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 25 2018 14: 55
                    0
                    then loneliness will be the worst punishment for you laughing
                    great, at least take military guides in google
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 April 22 2018 19: 05
          +4
          Quote: YELLOWSTONE
          if you do it then the mortar in German is minenwerfer and not morser

          However, I remember, it is a mercer!
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 21: 44
            0
            however check
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 23 2018 20: 21
              +4
              Quote: YELLOWSTONE
              however check

              And what to check? Directory look for laziness, but from memory, min.batr. in German, something like a mercer company. I was also surprised that they called the mortar battery a mortar company.
              1. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE April 24 2018 00: 49
                0
                tankers in England are called cavalry
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 24 2018 18: 29
                  +4
                  And the Yankees have armored cavalry regiments laughing
                  1. YELLOWSTONE
                    YELLOWSTONE April 24 2018 23: 44
                    0
                    here they (the Anglo-Saques) call the mortar mortar, the Germans - no
                    1. Grid
                      Grid April 25 2018 14: 46
                      0
                      here they (the Anglo-Saques) call the mortar mortar, the Germans - no

                      How young and stupid you are ...
                      1. YELLOWSTONE
                        YELLOWSTONE April 25 2018 14: 53
                        0
                        no, it's your high-low lol
                    2. Doliva63
                      Doliva63 April 25 2018 18: 35
                      +4
                      Quote: YELLOWSTONE
                      here they (the Anglo-Saques) call the mortar mortar, the Germans - no

                      Who sent me to the German dictionary? 50 times (because I don’t know your age group, I take the average) to push out, then continue laughing
                      1. YELLOWSTONE
                        YELLOWSTONE April 25 2018 20: 38
                        0
                        if you are too lazy to climb over a dictionary or a directory
                        http://www.miljobs.ch/jobs-a-z/detail/job/72/show
                        /
              2. Grid
                Grid April 25 2018 14: 48
                0
                I was also surprised that they called the mortar battery a mortar company.

                So they have a mortar company is our division, in organization.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 25 2018 18: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: Grille
                  I was also surprised that they called the mortar battery a mortar company.

                  So they have a mortar company is our division, in organization.

                  And we have a mortar division, except for the days of the Second World War?
                  And as far as I remember, they had this mortar company included in the staff of their own small and medium business / Panzergrenadirbatalon, as well as our min.batra. Do not force to look for directories! laughing drinks
              3. YELLOWSTONE
                YELLOWSTONE April 25 2018 15: 10
                0
                the art division consists of several batteries (mouth), possibly heterogeneous (VET, mortar, cannon)
  11. Bormanxnumx
    Bormanxnumx April 21 2018 13: 09
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    As the midshipman and the captain reached the stabilizer, the main task of which is to turn the mine so that it just hit the fuse on the ground - no one will know.

    The question is of course interesting) The illustration is taken from the book "Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 :: The work of the military-historical commission on the description of the Russo-Japanese War: in 10 volumes. - SPb., 1910." The required ammunition in the lower right corner of the page. Strange, but the authors forgot about the “revolutionary” plumage.
  12. Curious
    Curious April 21 2018 15: 12
    +4
    Already how many times the authors have been hinted that articles about weapons are not their, to put it mildly, strong point. However, with persistence worthy of a better application, they try, as the preransists say, to "break the map." The map in the face of the weapons theme, until it breaks.
    Some moments.
    "In fact, we made it a little easier, otherwise everything would be in mines. There were no torpedoes as such. There were Whitehead mines, their dad / mom. Which were launched from mine boats, destroyers and destroyers. "
    I would like to know how, according to the authors, the torpedo daughter fundamentally differs from dad and mom in the face of Whitehead mines and how sideways the launch site is to this difference.
    "But what was the surprise of the Japanese officers when they brought a shank from the shell. A shank similar to those used on torpedoes! And the next soldier was holding ... mine! What happens, the Russians use some kind of land torpedoes equipped with minami?
    Complete nonsense!
    In fact, we have simplified a little, otherwise it would be all in mines. Torpedoes as such have not yet been. There were the mines of Whitehead, their dad / mom. Which were launched from mineboats, destroyers and destroyers.
    Nevertheless, the Russians in Port Arthur still invented something like this "

    “Something invented” as it does not fit with the promise of a detailed story.
    In fact, not invented, but adapted.
    At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the Port Arthur squadron was armed with three types of mines: a spherical galvanic strike, a Whitehead mine, and a throwing mine.
    Throwing mine was a cylindrical shell with tail. It had a caliber of 225 mm, a length of 2,35 m and a weight of 75 kg (including 31 kg of explosives). This mine was fired from a tubular apparatus using a powder charge and hit a target at a distance of 100 meters.

    The progress of naval combat techniques (primarily the improvement of torpedo weapons) made a throwing mine by the beginning of the XNUMXth century archaism. However, the Port Arthur experimenters, this weapon prompted a valuable thought. After all, they had at their disposal a smooth-bore missile launcher that fired a feathered projectile with a hinged trajectory and great destructive force. In addition, it was lightweight and, therefore, allowed for quick transportation to the place of use. To turn it into a "mortar mortar" (as the experimenters called their creation), a device was needed that sensed recoil energy at the time of the shot, as well as guidance and aiming devices. Their creation was possible for the artillery workshops of Port Arthur.
    However, the limited number of mine vehicles on the squadron and their ammunition, as well as the small firing range, did not allow widespread use of the mortar. According to various sources, six or seven of them were made. That’s the whole solution to the “torpedoing” of the Japanese army.
    For more information on creating a mortar, see http://smartwebsite.ru/index/istinnyj_izobretatel
    _minometa / 0-804, where the above information is taken from.
    1. Curious
      Curious April 21 2018 21: 23
      +2

      And this is firing "land torpedoes"
  13. Operator
    Operator April 21 2018 18: 17
    0
    Quote: Grille
    I don’t intend to give lectures here especially gifted

    The drain is counted.
    1. Grid
      Grid April 22 2018 10: 53
      0
      Take the trouble to study internal ballistics, even at the contraceptive level. Well, if you have enough brains for it ...

      There were clearly not enough brains ...
      And so scat, miserable.
    2. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 21: 45
      0
      pictures quickly ended
  14. Totah155
    Totah155 April 21 2018 21: 28
    +5
    My grandfather (ז"ל) said that at the end of World War II, his mortars could get into the chimney.
    Glory to the heroes !
  15. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim April 22 2018 00: 59
    0
    Quote: Totah155
    My grandfather (ז"ל) said that at the end of World War II, his mortars could get into the chimney.
    Glory to the heroes !

    Not quite out of place, too, remembered.
    Summer, vacation. I get up in the morning, grandfather asks: "Did you hear the explosion?"
    I answer: "No, but what happened?"
    grandfather in response: "Have a good sleep, in War useful quality - during
    mortar shelling you can relax. "

    And here's what happened. Summer residents were thrown into a garbage container (which was 100 meters from our house)
    some rusty piece of iron. And the children (from the neighboring village) set fire to the grass next to the trash. Then the trash caught fire, the piece of iron pulled like a 120mm mine. The garbage can was notably turned around, almost nothing remained of the containers.
    1. YELLOWSTONE
      YELLOWSTONE April 22 2018 21: 47
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      had to be scrapped
  16. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo April 23 2018 07: 55
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    There were no torpedoes as such. There were Whitehead mines


    The Whitehead Mine (also a “self-propelled mine”) is a torpedo. Therefore, torpedo ships in the Russian fleet were called "minnoski", "destroyer", "mine cruiser"