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They will stand on one front. Ukraine and Lithuania will fight together with the Nord Stream-2

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The Prime Ministers of Ukraine and Lithuania, Vladimir Groisman and Saulius Skvernyalis, agreed to oppose the implementation of the Nord Stream - 2 project, the press service of the Ukrainian government said after the meeting of politicians.


They will stand on one front. Ukraine and Lithuania will fight together with the Nord Stream-2


The prime ministers considered separately the situation around the Russian project “Nord Stream - 2” and agreed on the need to counteract the implementation of this initiative.
- the report says.

In addition, Ukraine announced its intention to officially join the work of the NATO Center of Excellence for Energy Security in Vilnius.

In March, the heads of parliaments of Lithuania, Latvia and Poland signed a joint statement in Vilnius against the construction of a gas pipeline, stating that it is a geopolitical project based on a political decision to refuse gas transit through Ukraine. According to media reports, this appeal was also signed by Ukraine and Moldova.

Permission for the construction of the pipeline has already given Germany and Finland.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 12 2018 16: 25
    +6
    It’s good that the mongrel squealed so much .. It means to be a Nord Stream !! The pace of construction I think will be "Stakhanov" ..
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 12 2018 16: 39
      +4
      But have they just squealed? It has been going on since the beginning of the construction of the first stage. Nothing new.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It’s good that the mongrel squealed so much .. It means to be a Nord Stream !! The pace of construction I think will be "Stakhanov" ..
      1. Logall
        Logall April 12 2018 16: 50
        +6
        The main thing is that
        Permission for the construction of the pipeline has already given Germany and Finland.
        the rest are mongrel, profiled their place at the feeder. But Poland and the Baltic states could be in share, but the owner gave the command "fu" ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 12 2018 16: 55
          +4
          Even that Lithuania could do without an intermediary ... But it’s not! It’s not kosher. Yes, and Poland. Well, let Fools pay a lot of money. It’s only a shame that this is one of the very few levers of our development ..
          Quote: Logall
          The main thing is that
          Permission for the construction of the pipeline has already given Germany and Finland.
          the rest are mongrel, profiled their place at the feeder. But Poland and the Baltic states could be in share, but the owner gave the command "fu" ...
        2. kipod
          kipod April 12 2018 16: 56
          0
          Quote: Logall
          The main thing is that
          Permission for the construction of the pipeline has already given Germany and Finland.
          the rest are mongrel, profiled their place at the feeder. But Poland and the Baltic states could be in share, but the owner gave the command "fu" ...

          permission is yes.
          But you probably (by the way, your manner is strange in taking words out of context, as in the comments about the OPCW)
          The implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project is impossible without determining the future of Ukrainian transit. This was stated by German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a joint briefing with the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, the 112 Ukraine TV channel reported.

          According to Merkel, Germany considers it important to maintain gas supplies through Ukraine. “We also spoke with the President of Russia, we are talking about the fact that part of the gas will go through Ukrainian territory, that is, transit through the territory of Ukraine remains important. Of course, here we must take into account the political component of this issue, ”she said.
          1. zhekazs
            zhekazs April 12 2018 18: 21
            +1
            Quote: kipod
            The implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project is impossible without determining the future of Ukrainian transit. This was stated by German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a joint briefing with President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko,

            You never know what the Fuhrer was there. I blew my ears ... I calmed ukrov, and she is already looking forward to sitting and turning on the second gas valve for gas supplies to Europe. Yes, what does she care about any Ukraine, bullshit.
          2. major147
            major147 April 12 2018 19: 52
            0
            Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak:
            “It was confirmed, we confirmed that we will guarantee deliveries within the framework of existing contracts to European consumers. And confirmed that we do not exclude to partially use the gas transportation infrastructure of Ukraine outside the framework of 2019 Rambler reports.
            1. zhekazs
              zhekazs April 12 2018 21: 10
              +1
              Quote: major147
              that we do not exclude partially using

              That's exactly what partially, to supply those countries where gas cannot be bypassed (Czech Republic plus something else), but this may be partially unprofitable for the maintenance of ukro-GTS. The meaning of Novak’s statement is that it is confirmed guaranteeing gas supplies to the EU under contractsand not deliveries through the ukro-pipe - gas will go through it if there are no alternative routes for those several EU countries. It is clearly written in Russian in white.
          3. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 12 2018 20: 06
            +3
            Quote: kipod
            The implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project is impossible without determining the future of Ukrainian transit. This was stated by German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a joint briefing with the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, the 112 Ukraine TV channel reported.
            This does not mean at all that the same conditions for the transit of gas should be maintained as they are now. By the way, Gazprom also does not exclude the preservation of transit through urkain. The following is important here. Gazprom will not conclude a new agreement with Urkaina and that transit volumes will be limited to 10 billion cubic meters. In other words, the supply agreement can be signed with a third party (the same Germany), which will conclude an agreement with Urkaina on the use of its hydraulic system. So the residents of Urkain will not be able to twist and unscrew the faucets on the pipe, but will only listen to how the aggressor gazul in the pipe makes noise, flying through their territory and with hatred watch how the butterflies fly past their pocket.
            1. kipod
              kipod April 12 2018 20: 22
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              This does not mean at all that the same conditions for the transit of gas should be preserved as now

              Of course, but they will be preserved and the EU will dictate them together with Ukraine.
              Otherwise, you understand, you can build - it does not mean at all that you can download something from it.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              By the way, Gazprom also does not exclude the preservation of transit through urkain

              Don't you find it strange (or I would say unexpected) - a change in Gazprom’s position?
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              . Gazprom will not conclude a new agreement with Urkaina and the fact that transit volumes will be limited to 10 billion cubic meters

              Of course it will be. Without the conclusion of new agreements with their guaranteed extension and the consolidation of certain (satisfactory for the EU and Ukraine) gas volumes - SP-2 will not be connected.
              Merkel expressed herself clearly on this subject
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              In other words, the supply agreement can be signed with a third party (the same Germany), which will conclude an agreement with Urkaina on the use of its hydraulic system.

              Read Merkel and don’t pull the owl on the globe.
              Gazprom will have to supply gas through Ukraine.
              Point. Germany for the sake of Gazprom will not invent any plants.
              Why would she do this?
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              So the residents of Urkain will not be able to twist and unscrew the faucets on the pipe

              I don’t really think that they need it.
              They need cheap gas, transit fees and an understanding of the Russian Federation that the pipe still runs through the territory of Ukraine - with all the consequences.
              Moreover, for that matter, in the hands of Germany's GTS or Australia, what will prevent Ukraine (by the decision of the relevant structures - the decision of the Cabinet of Ministers, let's say in the light of the hostile policy of Russia (as an explanation) to take and block?
              Germany what will fight?
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              they will only listen to how the aggressor gazul in the pipe makes a noise, flying through their territory and with hatred watch how the butterflies fly past their pocket.

              I will tell you one thing.
              The Russian Federation sunk billions into the absolutely unnecessary SP-2 shopping mall SP-1 + GTS of Ukraine met these requirements in transit - just not to pay Ukraine and remove it as a transit country.
              Happened ? I doubt it.
              The next (I'm talking about SP-2) buried wasted billions.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 12 2018 20: 46
                +1
                Quote: kipod
                Read Merkel and don’t pull the owl on the globe

                Yozheg, Merkel herself "on the needle." A joint venture is beneficial primarily to Germany, no? And Germany is ... well, definitely not Merkel.
                That’s what the “correct posons” say there, it will be in the window.
                Here you are pulling an owl request
                Quote: kipod
                Russia has sunk billions in absolutely unnecessary SP-2 shopping mall SP-1

                All analysts in the Russian Federation (in aggregate) are more stupid than Jozheg alone.
                Aren't you funny yet?
                Quote: kipod
                GTS of Ukraine met these requirements for transit

                In addition to reliability. Ukrainian regime as a partner, Ukraine as a transit country yes
                Quote: kipod
                ... I say...

                ... a lot, emotionally and out of business.
                IMHO, naturally.
              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 12 2018 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: kipod
                Don't you find it strange (or I would say unexpected) - a change in Gazprom’s position?

                No, I don’t find it, because we’ll say so “not in a businesslike way”, because the durna vlada will sooner or later be overthrown, and the pipe will remain and will work as it had been working for 30 years. So you imagine how many cubes of gas must be pumped into the pipe to create the pressure necessary for pumping? If you stop the transit completely, this is the end of the entire GTS in the territory of Urkaina, and by the way, it was laid on the money of the USSR i.e. on folk.
                Quote: kipod
                Of course it will be. Without the conclusion of new agreements with their guaranteed extension and the consolidation of certain (suitable for the EU and Ukraine)

                Naive. The current contract expires in 2019. How do you imagine that the contract itself has died, and the extension is valid? She dies with "dad" ie with the contract.
                Quote: kipod
                Gazprom will have to supply gas through Ukraine. Point. Germany for the sake of Gazprom will not invent any plants. Why would she do this?
                Yes, she does not invent anything. But Germany also has no desire to feed these revolutions at the expense of the European Union, since gas is bought at the credit booths allocated by the EU. I admit that there will be a contract for the “lease” of the Urkaina gas transportation system, and the “rent” itself will be spent by Urkaina to pay for “reverse gas” from Europe. Imagine a closed cycle scheme of European babos past the Ukkay box office and at the same time Europe will manage the pipe. Why would she do this? Yes, just so that it would no longer depend on the annual vagaries of the "transit countries" during the onset of seasonal frosts, which made Europe a hostage to the situation.
                Quote: kipod
                They need cheap gas, transit fees and an understanding of the Russian Federation that the pipe still runs through the territory of Ukraine - with all the consequences.

                This is the reason that urkain is deprived of the right to transit. If you follow the logic, the pipe is not the most important thing. The main thing is the gas field since without gas, a pipe is just a piece of iron on whose territory it does not lie, but Urkaina thought differently, as a result everyone will have gas, and urkaina will have a pipe.
                Quote: kipod
                Moreover, for that matter, in the hands of Germany's GTS or Australia, what will prevent Ukraine (by the decision of the relevant structures - the decision of the Cabinet of Ministers, let's say in the light of the hostile policy of Russia (as an explanation) to take and block?
                To take and block? ..... Wait, what’s going on in your head? You have already forgotten everything that you wrote about above, proving the reliability of the Urkain transit and the inevitability of gas pumping through this pipe.
                Quote: kipod
                Germany what will fight?
                No, it will not. He will call Petka, pulls him by the hair, hangs up kicks and reminds how much Petka and his tribe of German babos should.
                Quote: kipod
                I will tell you one thing. Russia has sunk billions in absolutely unnecessary SP-2 shopping mall SP-1
                SP-1 is already driving all the gas, and SP-2 is still being negotiated. After commissioning, gas will also run on it simply because Germany will already become a European gas hub and, with this interest, she does not care how much gas has flowed from the Urkain gas pipeline to SP-2.
                Quote: kipod
                The GTS of Ukraine met these requirements for transit - just not to pay Ukraine and remove it as a transit country.
                The weak link should be excluded from the system, and Urkaina coped with this by dropping her transit status. Herself!
                Quote: kipod
                Regular (I'm talking about SP-2) buried wasted billions
                Well, why wasted. This is called diversification of supplies and independence of the route when fulfilling contractual obligations, which increases the reliability of the supplier. I have nothing against the Ukrainian people, but I am against the Ukkayan rule. The faster the sources of her income run out, the faster she will be overthrown and Ukraine will be able to return to normal life.
            2. zhekazs
              zhekazs April 12 2018 21: 14
              +2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              In other words, the supply agreement can be signed with a third party (the same Germany), which will conclude an agreement with Urkaina on the use of its hydraulic system.

              Here, as an option is more suitable, let others already contract with them for pumping and deal with them.
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 April 12 2018 16: 58
          0
          Quote: Logall
          But Poland and the Baltic states could be in share, but the owner gave the command "fu" ...

          Bulgarians still bite their elbows
        4. zhekazs
          zhekazs April 12 2018 18: 16
          +1
          Quote: Logall
          But Poland and the Baltic states could be in share, but the owner gave the command "fu" ...

          Both Poland and the Baltic States built LNG terminals for master gas, which is what it takes, smelly Russian gas was "replaced". Ukrov can still be understood, they’ll have to redo their GTS to the sewers.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 12 2018 20: 40
            +2
            Quote: zhekazs
            Both Poland and the Baltic States built LNG terminals for master gas, which is what it takes, smelly Russian gas was "replaced". Ukrov can still be understood, they’ll have to redo their GTS to the sewers
            In the Baltic states, only Lithuania acquired a terminal and wanted to become a “hub” for its neighbors. The neighbors looked at the price of the proposed gas and sent Lithuania to go through forests, swamps and potholes and increased gas consumption from the "occupier". Lithuania pretending that it would not be able to dig up the amount of liquefied gas that it had contracted, now it is thinking where to put the surplus, for which you also have to pay for it from your pocket. “sisters” do not want to refuse cheap gas in any way, in favor of expensive gas with a Lithuanian margin, and the supplier does not want to lose profits and scares with fines. In short, two friends in misfortune i.e. Lithuania and Urkain announced a real Gas for themselves (Avat).
            1. zhekazs
              zhekazs April 12 2018 21: 22
              +1
              You forgot to mention the tanker, which was chartered by the Norwegians, if I am not mistaken, for 10 years at a very high tariff with all the consequences of pricing. I didn’t like our smelly gas. What they wanted, they got it. God forbid, it would be better to limit the transit with them only to passenger vehicles.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 12 2018 17: 32
        0
        Another thing surprises me. Well, the two countries are building their own gas pipeline, who cares? Maybe it’s time to already give on the hill, so that they would not blather. Who are they? Rather, what are they?
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 April 12 2018 18: 27
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          who cares?

          whatever it is, and who will contain the Sumerians, the EU or something, they already have enough Baltic freeloaders, these very freeloaders screech loudest than others so that the EU rivals will not have new competitors ...
      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 12 2018 20: 20
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        But have they just squealed? It has been going on since the beginning of the construction of the first stage. Nothing new.
        Quote: MIKHAN
        It’s good that the mongrel squealed so much .. It means to be a Nord Stream !! The pace of construction I think will be "Stakhanov" ..

        They screech. from the day of the Baptism of Russia ..! So everything is as usual ..)))
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 12 2018 19: 38
      +1
      Well, I suggest that their “presidents" lie in the path of the stacker or stand with placards nearby, and yes, sanctions against Germany can be introduced.
  2. Yrec
    Yrec April 12 2018 16: 26
    +1
    Hamsters vs SP-2! Give hamster litter as an alternative fuel of the future!
    1. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 12 2018 16: 37
      +3

      Do not compare these, even with hamsters) I have to this hamster and that is more respect than to Ukraine and Lithuania
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 12 2018 16: 28
    +1
    groysman and foul ... now it has become really scary
  4. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 12 2018 16: 35
    +1
    Together and even without panties.
    Neither Latvia, nor Lithuania, nor Estonia, nor the combined Latgale are suitable only to fart towards Russia. However, if, taking into account all the European rules, the Russian Federation notices the existence of all these Estonians, Latvia, and especially Lithuania, we will pay attention to your shameful behavior.
  5. Boris Tomarov_2
    Boris Tomarov_2 April 12 2018 16: 37
    +3
    Who will listen to these dwarfs living on the handouts of a pind camp.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 April 12 2018 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: Boris Tomarov_2
      Who will listen to these dwarfs living on the handouts of a pind camp.

      which is not today, tomorrow will end
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 12 2018 16: 37
    +3
    NATO Center for Excellence in Energy Security in Vilnius.
    Very interesting ... is this some kind of analytical institute or just a store selling liquefied gas? I just never heard, I’m intrigued repeat
  7. pvv113
    pvv113 April 12 2018 16: 40
    +2
    Space for two already mastered wassat
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 April 12 2018 17: 01
      +4
      Quote: pvv113
      Space for two already mastered wassat

      not a telescope. binoculars. disassembled into 2 parts
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 April 12 2018 17: 28
        +1
        Moreover, they use one part for two, and the second was hidden in case of loss of the first wink
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 12 2018 19: 44
          +1
          Quote: pvv113
          and the second was hidden in case of loss of the first

          and rumored to have been leased to Estonians. those with him are our submarines laughing
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 April 12 2018 20: 04
            +1
            Then, most likely, the Swedes - their search for Russian submarines became a national hobby. wink
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 April 12 2018 20: 09
              +1
              Quote: pvv113
              Then, most likely, the Swedes - their search for Russian submarines became a national hobby.

              because they bought it lol
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 April 12 2018 20: 11
                +1
                In this case, no questions asked. lol
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 April 12 2018 20: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: pvv113
                  In this case, no questions asked.

                  fell swoop all issues resolved good
                  not that these chemists. hto ... where .. hto ... how ... tfu, specialists called laughing
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 April 12 2018 20: 37
                    +1
                    Here I am about the same: the level of chemists is equivalent to the level of ukrolitovskih conquerors of vacuum wink
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 April 12 2018 21: 11
                      +1
                      Quote: pvv113
                      the level of chemists is equivalent to the level of ukrolitovsky conquerors of vacuum

                      on the thorns came, but to the stars so farooooooo .... laughing
                      1. pvv113
                        pvv113 April 12 2018 21: 31
                        +1
                        I agree, they just didn’t come, but they got involved wink
  8. prior
    prior April 12 2018 16: 45
    0
    "They will stand on one front. Lithuania and Ukraine ..."
    Fuck with them. Let’s bury it side by side.
  9. Mimohod
    Mimohod April 12 2018 16: 46
    +1
    In March, the heads of parliaments of Lithuania, Latvia and Poland signed a joint statement in Vilnius against the construction of a gas pipeline, stating that it is a geopolitical project based on a political decision to refuse gas transit through Ukraine. According to media reports, this appeal was also signed by Ukraine and Moldova.
    The sixes and the litter of the West are panicking, they are losing both profits from transit and economic demand for Europe. Against this background, political interest in these countries will drop, except for the military component artificially supported by terry Russophobia ....
  10. Simon
    Simon April 12 2018 16: 48
    +1
    Let the crap out of my head, otherwise the belly button will be untied, Germany and Finland have already signed. It will be difficult to fight with Germany and Finland, for them it is a direct profit! wink
  11. Vladyka Ecumenical
    Vladyka Ecumenical April 12 2018 16: 50
    0
    Who are these suckers?
  12. NF68
    NF68 April 12 2018 17: 26
    +1
    It must be assumed that Lithuania and Ukraine in the near future should thoroughly "strengthen" Latvia and Estonia.
  13. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya April 12 2018 17: 29
    0
    They will fight, so chtoli:
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 12 2018 21: 59
      0
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      They will fight, so chtoli:


      Or so. They will import gas to Ukraine bypassing the Gazprom pipe:
  14. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio April 12 2018 17: 50
    +1
    can they send peas with beans 2 wagon
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 12 2018 22: 00
      0
      Quote: wicked pinnochio
      can they send peas with beans 2 wagon


      2 wagon is not enough for them.
      1. wicked pinnochio
        wicked pinnochio April 14 2018 14: 26
        0
        and how much then
        1. NF68
          NF68 April 14 2018 15: 44
          0
          Quote: wicked pinnochio
          and how much then


          And how much you don’t give, it will still be small and anyway the one who gives them peas or something else will still be guilty of something.
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 12 2018 17: 57
    0
    Looks at the striped owner of serious "fighters" and did not remain. Throws to the battle that scraped through the gophers.
  16. ZVS
    ZVS April 12 2018 18: 00
    0
    As the Baltic states and Ukrainians do not want to lose a freebie! Ready to die for free!
  17. ivan0vitch
    ivan0vitch April 12 2018 18: 14
    +1
    how much noise with this pipe. the story repeats itself)
  18. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai April 12 2018 18: 45
    0
    The most stubborn fighters remained. laughing
  19. Slovak
    Slovak April 12 2018 19: 27
    0
    Russia needs to stop gas supplies to Lithuania and Poland. Then they will not stand in front, but in cancer
  20. Terenin
    Terenin April 12 2018 21: 05
    +5
    Slowly, but the construction issue is moving.
  21. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 12 2018 23: 50
    0
    Yes ... one front then you will caress our legs after such statements here. We are recording everything.
  22. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy April 13 2018 00: 09
    0
    Quote: major147
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak:
    “It was confirmed, we confirmed that we will guarantee deliveries within the framework of existing contracts to European consumers. And confirmed that we do not exclude to partially use the gas transportation infrastructure of Ukraine outside the framework of 2019 Rambler reports.


    So there was information that the Ukrainian pipe was in very poor condition. Like, billions of bucks need to be invested for its repair, even foreigners wanted to take a share ... Maybe that's why Novak said "we do not exclude ..." if she is still alive until 2019 ... Then he will say where we are going to the gas sieve we will drive.
  23. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu April 13 2018 00: 51
    0
    Let still chtokraina with somewhere with an edrokom agree
  24. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 13 2018 05: 10
    0
    The State Department’s monstrous mongrels thawed, stirred, sputtered .. Now a howl from rotten sips will begin again.