OPCW Report on Skripaly published. All "superfluous" - in the secret part

Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical weapons submitted a report, which refers to the results of the investigation of poisoning in Salisbury. The report consists of 12 points, of which the majority is frankly formal.

Text:

1. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland requested technical assistance from the Technical Secretariat of the OPCW (hereinafter referred to as the Secretariat) in accordance with paragraphs. 38 (e) of Article VIII of the Chemical Weapons Convention in relation to the 4 March 2018 incident in Salisbury involving a toxic chemical, allegedly a nerve agent, and poisoning and hospitalization of three people.

2. The team deployed in the UK 19 March for a preliminary investigation and from March 21 to March 23 for a full investigation.

3. The team received information about the medical conditions of the affected individuals: Mr. Sergey Skripal, Ms. Julia Skripal and Mr. Nicholas Bailey. This included data on the status of acetylcholinesterase after hospitalization, as well as information on the treatment regimen.

4. The team was able to take blood samples from three victims for subsequent analysis in the OPCW laboratory.

5. The team was able to randomly test environmental samples at the supply chain site at locations identified as possible residual contamination points. Samples were returned to the OPCW laboratory for further analysis.

6. The group requested and obtained a breakdown of the samples taken by the British authorities for delivery to the OPCW laboratory in Rijswijk, the Netherlands, and then an analysis of the OPCW laboratories. This was done for comparative purposes and to verify the analysis carried out by the United Kingdom.

7. The team was informed about the type of toxic chemical. And she was able to analyze the analytical results and chemical analysis of biomedical samples collected by British experts from the affected persons, as well as environmental samples collected on site. The results of the analysis of biomedical samples conducted by the OPCW demonstrate the poisoning of three hospitalized individuals with a toxic chemical.

9. The analysis of environmental samples from the OPCW laboratory demonstrates the presence of this toxic chemical in the samples.

10. The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW confirm the findings of experts from the United Kingdom regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

11. The team notes that the toxic chemical has high purity. Almost without impurities.

12. The name and structure of the identified toxic chemical is contained in its entirety in the secret part of the Secretariat’s report accessible to the States Parties.

Apparently, Russia, whose citizens Skripali are, is not included in the circle of those countries to which this secret part of the report is available.

But on the Twitter page of the Associated Press news agency there is an excerpt from the secret section, which states that the OPCW does not know about the country of origin of the substance used in Salisbury.

Comments

[210ox]

It’s written on the fence .. "Vasya was here." That's the whole investigation.

[Logall]

OPCW - frankly knowingly ... organization!

[kipod]

Quote: Logall

12. The name and structure of the identified toxic chemical is contained in its entirety in the secret part of the Secretariat’s report accessible to the States Parties.

read carefully

12. The name and structure of the identified toxic chemical substance are contained in full in the secret part of the Secretariat report, accessible to member states.

Russia is a member of the OPCW and received the full report - including its secret part

[Tatyana]

My findings on this report.
DANO.
1. It is known from international professional experience that OM always has some chemical impurities in microscopic quantities, by which it is possible to determine its country of origin. But these impurities completely disappear completely in the first 10 days after its application.
2. From the report it is known:
a) Skripals were poisoned on 4 of March;
b) the investigative team arrived only on 19 of March and carried out preliminary investigative work on 21-23 of March.
Question. How many days have passed between the date of the Skripals poisoning and the commission's work?
Answer. 21 - 4 (3) = 17 days. Or at least 19 - 4 = 15 days.
Those. 15-17 days, >> 10 days!
Question. Could the commission establish something there based on the impurities of the OM producer, which country and laboratory does it belong to?
Answer. No, a priori I could not! Even for those analyzes with OM, in which samples were taken earlier and sent to the structures by definition of OM.
All that could be determined was the type of OM itself — and nothing more! What, in fact, is written in the report of the commission

11. The team notes that the toxic chemical has high purity. With almost complete absence of impurities.

What is real - under the initial circumstances of the investigation of the case by the commission of inquiry - it really is trustworthy!

And what then is May and Thomson’s evidence of poisoning the Skripals against Russia? But no!
Which of all this begs forConclusions? And here are some.
May herself personally indirectly took part in the poisoning of the Skripals OV-m, produced in Britain or her allied country! Therefore, in the report the brand of special forces is classified in general, which could just be checked to see if it is, in principle, a general-purpose combat agent of mass destruction or not.

[okko077]

I have never seen the term OB, toxic chemical sold in any store ....

[kipod]

Quote: okko077

I have never seen the term OB, toxic chemical sold in any store ....

You should at least look at Wiki for a change.

Chemical warfare agents (OM) - toxic chemical compoundsdesigned to defeat enemy manpower.

[okko077]

And where is your variety? Is everything all right with logic?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: kipod

Quote: okko077

I have never seen the term OB, toxic chemical sold in any store ....

You should at least look at Wiki for a change.

Chemical warfare agents (OM) - toxic chemical compoundsdesigned to defeat enemy manpower.

in vain do you think that any toxic poisonous substance is a chemical warfare agent !!!

[YELLOWSTONE]

a friend pretends that he doesn’t understand that all Salisbury would have died out of a battlefield easily and immediately, and from contact poison if only Russian super-agents smeared everyone in this town with his doorknob
The original English press wrote that poisoning was fentanyl (synthetic heroin),
the Russian service of the BBC has an interesting report for 2012, I wonder how quickly it will now be deleted.
https://www.bbc.com/russian/society/2012/03/12033
0_estonia_fentanyl_overdose

[YELLOWSTONE]

the diversity is to draw the OPCW (WMD) to ordinary criminal poisoning in England with an eye on Syrian affairs

[kipod]

Quote: Tatiana

My findings on this report.
DANO.

Quote: Tatiana

But these impurities completely completely disappear in the first 10 days after its use.

Quote: Tatiana

Answer. No, a priori I could not! Even for those analyzes with OM, in which samples were taken earlier and sent to the structures by definition of OM.

Tatyana, if you are not an expert in this matter - just limit yourself to words --- I do not believe it.
Do not put a shadow on the fence and draw some kind of mathematical conclusions, in those issues in which neither you nor 99,99999% of the participants in this forum have any competence.

[Logall]

If you are so competent, then limit yourself to your thoughts and arguments, and do not litter this portal with materials from other (dubious) resources.
We are not writing a dissertation here, but expressing our own, only our own point of view on a particular event ...
Not for you to talk about the competence of the participants! Or, otherwise, what are you doing here? There are narrowly focused forums with pundits on them ...

[kipod]

Quote: Logall

If you are so competent, then a limiter with your thoughts and arguments

My arguments are no different from yours, and probably the same in terms of competence, I left not far from you.
But I can read and understand what I read.

Quote: Logall

Not for you to talk about the competence of the participants!

Of course to me. Do you doubt it?
So far I have not entered a single person here (with the exception of Stary26) - more or less competently and with knowledge of the subject - who wrote about this.

Quote: Logall

what are you doing here? There are narrowly focused forums with pundits on them ...

What are you doing here?

[Tatyana]

The Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons TODAY reported that they had received a report on the Salisbury incident. It is noted that STUDYING a document will take some time.

It is known that the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU, Vladimir Chizhov, expressed suspicions about London:

“Porton Down, as we all now know, is the largest military facility in the United Kingdom involved in chemical weapons research. And he’s actually only eight miles from Salisbury. ”On March 20 in an interview with TASS, Doctor of Chemical Sciences, Professor Leonid Rink, who was one of the developers of the“ newcomers, ”said that there was no single substance or project with that name, and the formula for professionals is publicly available.
Rink confirmed that the substance can be identified: “Of course, everything can be determined. And it is absolutely certain that there are such specialists in the UK. It was they who could handle, as it seems to me, the things of Skripal or his daughter. ”
According to the expert, one can even determine the country of manufacture by a peculiar “handwriting”. The professor does not exclude that the Skripals owe their lives to the low quality of the substance used: “So far, everyone is alive. This means that either this is not our system at all, or it was poorly “welded” and applied carelessly. Or right after the application, the British used an antidote, and for this it was necessary to know what exactly you are poisoning. ”

As for possible non-Russian interests, first of all the attempt on Sergei Skripal is associated with the actions of intelligence MI-6, Mossad.
See in detail. - A review of alternative versions of the Skripal case: Russians, British, or Jews? 21 March 2018 g. 03: 13 - https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/94cd6a1b?

Nevertheless, Bobik Johnson blames all the poisoning on Russia. But, as you know, the evidence in Britain is not enough for this.
Everything will end as in endless tautological verses about the fact that "
The priest had a dog.
He loved her.
She ate a piece of meat -
He killed her.
Buried in a hole
And the inscription wrote,
That the priest had a dog.
He loved her.
She ate a piece of meat -
He killed her.
Buried in a hole
And the inscription wrote,
That the priest had a dog.
.......................

[sabakina]

Tatyana, maybe all the same, you should file a lawsuit against them for libel? True, I don’t know which one.

[Tatyana]

Vyacheslav! No one will accept this case in court for defamation. Although it is necessary to file, to thrash their nerves and undermine the rating of their political and professional authority.
But to make them defiantly “shook hands”, to refuse Russia and to personally conduct any negotiations with them while they are out of their posts in Britain, etc. they will not be removed from their posts - such things are practiced.
By the way, in Britain the people are already demanding the resignation of May and Thomson because they simply dishonor the UK with their actions.

[sabakina]

Tatyana, Is a beginner a gas, a liquid, or another? Could this substance get into the blood?

[kipod]

Quote: sabakina

Tatyana, Is a beginner a gas, a liquid, or another? Could this substance get into the blood?

like any OM, it can be in a liquid and gaseous state.

[Tatyana]

Vyacheslav! Details about the "Novice" can be found in the article
"The developer of chemical weapons: If we have a sample of the poison - the version of London will completely fall apart"
т01:092018-03-21T01:09:27+03:00
https://www.kp.ru/daily/26808/3844061/

The article gives an interview with Doctor of Chemical Sciences Leonid Rink, who, unlike Vila Mirzayanov (who discovered the mysterious gas formula), did not just work at a research institute developing a poisonous substance, but was a leading researcher and head of the laboratory where basic research on the creation of chemical weapons was carried out.

I just find it difficult to upload a large number of important quotes from this article in the comments. The article is very interesting, and you will definitely read it in its entirety and with great interest.

In general, this is precisely a gas, a killer nerve force, but like any gas, it can be liquefied under pressure. As I understand it.

[kipod]

Quote: Tatiana

In general, this is gas, but like any gas, it can be liquefied under pressure. As I understand it

what about boiling point? liquids.
The previous comment — with your investigation of the OPCW — was also extremely deep.

Quote: Tatiana

My findings on this report.

[Tatyana]

Quote: kipod

what about boiling point? liquids.

Do not ask stupid questions! No one will answer and will not answer any questions of secret significance!

[sabakina]

kipod, do you want to expose each user on this site?

[Orionvit]

Too complicated, why? In all twelve points, there is not a single mention of Russia. Moreover, neither about motives, nor about the origin of the substance, nor about compliance with sampling procedures, in general about anything specifically, everything is blah, blah, blah. . However, Russia is to blame.

[NKT]

But Russian experts were not allowed to investigate. Therefore, this report will be the same as the report on the Malaysian Boeing, in other words - fake, attraction of facts and a solid must-like.

PS They threw a barrel of chlorine - 500 dead. Super OB and 100% survival rate were used. Paradox.

[DMB_95]

Quote: 210ox

It’s written on the fence .. "Vasya was here." That's the whole investigation.

No, there on the microparticles of the substance there is the inscription "Novichok".

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: DMB_95

No, there on the microparticles of the substance there is the inscription "Novichok".

in fact, in the OPCW report about newcomers, not a word was said

[kipod]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: DMB_95

No, there on the microparticles of the substance there is the inscription "Novichok".

in fact, in the OPCW report about newcomers, not a word was said

Well, the OPCW, in general, is a serious organization - it is nicknamed (and Novice is a nickname in general and also not the official name of a gas), more precisely, a group of gases.
It probably gave a formula, and experts will understand what the question is.

[Archivist Vasya]

Who was who?

[vkl.47]

Pitchfork on water

[figwam]

Waggled on water.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Skripal needs to be soaked for real ... So that others are not disgraceful! Otherwise, this "Santa Barbara" will be repeated endlessly ..

[forester]

Quote: MIKHAN

Skripal needs to be soaked for real ... So that others are not disgraceful! Otherwise, this "Santa Barbara" will be repeated endlessly ..

Don’t worry Vital - they’ll soak, and his daughter will be soaked - they are dangerous witnesses to the Britons that nothing))))

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: forester

Don’t worry Vital - they’ll soak, and his daughter will be soaked - they are dangerous witnesses to the Britons that nothing))))

I don’t worry Igor .. Too many problems and humiliations this traitor Skripal brought us. And let the daughter live and write memoirs hehe!
And in Britain, our traitors have settled a lot ... Who's new ...? They are like naughty saxes like sheep on a sacrifice !!!!!

[Dead duck]

Quote: 210ox

It’s written on the fence ..

grandmother came up, touched .... turned out to be bitches
so do they demons

[astepanov]

Now let's count. I tried to do without sophisticated chemistry.
It is believed (at least in the media it was repeatedly voiced) that the "Novice" is 10 times more toxic than V-gases. The whole group of organophosphorus substances works in a similar way: either the client inhales the aerosol and dies very quickly, or it gets on the skin, and then the effect will appear within an hour - three - which was observed. So, the poison (if it was) got on the skin, and its dose did not exceed the lethal or was close to it. For Vx-gas, the lethal dose for skin application is 100 mcg / kg, which means for Novichok about 10 mcg / kg, and for a conditional body weight of 70 kg, the dose is about 700 mcg (0,7 mg, 0,0007 d).
Blood samples were taken from the victims. If all the poison got into the blood, and the doctors took a sample of 0,1 liters, then this is 1/50 of the total volume of blood, i.e. 700/50 = 14 mcg (14 ppm) of the substance was available for analysis. But there is one subtlety: a substance that is completely stored in the blood cannot be poison, it must be sorbed by tissues that are prone to its attack. And such a reagent is the cholinesterase enzyme. And now the question is: how can the chemical formula of a substance be deciphered if you have it available in an amount much less than 14 ppm? Answer: no way. But mass spectrometry still allows you to do this if there are reference spectra. Are they in the famous Defector's book? No, there are only formulas. Therefore, either the British special services themselves synthesized this substance, or only the substance belongs to the organophosphorus class without specifying specifics, or all this is a setup.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Alexey, my advice to you, all these "little things of deduction and analysis" are not needed .. Everything, everyone has long understood! To these demons, all this evidence-justification is like a balm for the soul ..
Here is a joke:
Vasily Ivanovich and Petka caught Skripal:
P: Vasily Ivanovich, what will we do with the traitor? Hang Ali shoot ...?
B, I: Petka no ropes, and ammo too ..
P: Vasily Ivanovich, let’s give him moonshine to drink, and we won’t give a hangover in the morning .. !!!
V.I .: Well, you and the sadist Petka ... Okay, act !!!
There these traitors of ours in London, like dogs not cut ... Enough for a long time and will poison and blow up .. hehe Abramovich, probably urgently evacuated in his submarine (where? ..)))

[Vladimir_R]

Quote: astepanov

Now let's count. I tried to do without sophisticated chemistry.
It is believed (at least in the media it was repeatedly voiced) that the "Novice" is 10 times more toxic than V-gases. The whole group of organophosphorus substances works in a similar way: either the client inhales the aerosol and dies very quickly, or it gets on the skin, and then the effect will appear within an hour - three - which was observed. So, the poison (if it was) got on the skin, and its dose did not exceed the lethal or was close to it. For Vx-gas, the lethal dose for skin application is 100 mcg / kg, which means for Novichok about 10 mcg / kg, and for a conditional body weight of 70 kg, the dose is about 700 mcg (0,7 mg, 0,0007 d).
Blood samples were taken from the victims. If all the poison got into the blood, and the doctors took a sample of 0,1 liters, then this is 1/50 of the total volume of blood, i.e. 700/50 = 14 mcg (14 ppm) of the substance was available for analysis. But there is one subtlety: a substance that is completely stored in the blood cannot be poison, it must be sorbed by tissues that are prone to its attack. And such a reagent is the cholinesterase enzyme. And now the question is: how can the chemical formula of a substance be deciphered if you have it available in an amount much less than 14 ppm? Answer: no way. But mass spectrometry still allows you to do this if there are reference spectra. Are they in the famous Defector's book? No, there are only formulas. Therefore, either the British special services themselves synthesized this substance, or only the substance belongs to the organophosphorus class without specifying specifics, or all this is a setup.

You absolutely do not understand what you are writing about.

Skin contact yes, concentrations change. But there are many chemicals that penetrate the pores of intact skin and “carry” with them almost all substances. So consider not correct.

A substance whose traces are found in the blood can still be "poisons." I will give an example. Alcohol, ethyl alcohol. It all depends on the dose. And this is not to mention the metabolites.

Reference spectra are not needed. Each instrument (gas chromatography mass spectrometer) is equipped with a program by default, which allows you to compile a formula for a substance according to the mass spectrum of which is not in the library (called MS-Interpreter), you can download from of. NIST site, in the demo version is available to everyone.

[g1washntwn]

Well, all convinced. Drink brandy no more, just rub .... :)

[Slovak]

Quote: 210ox

It’s written on the fence .. "Vasya was here." That's the whole investigation.

And indeed fatal gas poisoning was not very fatal.

[1536]

Passed with our athletes, will pass and now with the accusations of the state as a whole. International organizations no longer exist in principle. They all became American overnight. And fulfill the will of the owners. Therefore, we are waiting for the third provocation, which, most likely, is not far off.

[Logall]

Quote: 1536

We are waiting for the third provocation, which, most likely, is not far off.

Will UNESCO accuse Russia of destroying monuments in the Baltic countries and Poland?

[1536]

Then they will probably attribute the destruction of ancient monuments in Syria, since we were noted there.
But, in my opinion, the next provocation will be from Ukraine.

[Logall]

That is the absurdity of their accusations: they accuse us of those crimes in which we could not even take part. So the monuments are just right ... And also Kennedy ... And the Titanic ... And Ebola ... Many more things ...

[1536]

It's just not clear why they are silent about the poisoning of brother Kim Jong-un? There it was proved that the gas with which he was poisoned was of English production. And the poisoning occurred in broad daylight at the airport, there was a crowd of people around. As the detective would say: the similarity of actions is clearly traced, and the investigation of these crimes must be combined into one. Maybe this is the key to the hysteria of the "English clowns"?

[not main]

Quote: Logall

That is the absurdity of their accusations: they accuse us of those crimes in which we could not even take part. So the monuments are just right ... And also Kennedy ... And the Titanic ... And Ebola ... Many more things ...

That's it! Forgot Vesuvius and smallpox! What are they not blaming us for now? But this is more like a farce!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Logall

Will UNESCO accuse Russia of destroying monuments in the Baltic countries and Poland?

digging fine, for example, you know why they can’t find the grave of Genghis Khan ?!

[Andrey K]

All that the public needed to know was classified.
The concept of a "toxic chemical" does not mean anything at all.
From the school chemistry program, everyone knows that pure oxygen is also toxic.
What kind of substance, its dosage, who took the tests (or they were provided by the Saxons) - a bunch of words, with a worthless result.
Everyone will now think over the results of the work of OPCW specialists, to the best of their imagination.

[Strashila]

and water in large volumes of consumption.

[kipod]

Quote: Andrey K

All that the public needed to know was classified

All you need to know who needs to - they know.

Quote: Andrey K

The concept of a "toxic chemical" does not mean anything at all.

Starno, what is not clear? Or do you read selectively?

10. The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW, confirm the findings of UK specialists regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

Confirmed the conclusions of the British, I hope you heard about their conclusions?

Quote: Andrey K

What kind of substance, its dosage, who took the tests (or they were provided by the Saxons) - a bunch of words, with a worthless result.

Do you need to know this too?
When you undergo an examination in a hospital - do you care about the final diagnosis or the name of the Glasha laboratory technician - what is of particular concern to you?

Quote: Andrey K

Everyone will now think over the results of the work of OPCW specialists, to the best of their imagination.

on the VO forum, if only.

[Andrey K]

Quote: kipod

... All you need to know who needs it - they know ...

Everyone who needs and without the OPCW report knows perfectly well, as it were.

Quote: kipod

... Starno, what is not clear? Or do you read selectively? ...

I read what is written. And it is written about a toxic chemical substance; for some reason I do not know such a chemical formula. Strange huh? Do you know such a chemical, passed the exam?

Quote: kipod

... The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW ....
... regarding the identity of a toxic chemical ...
.... Confirmed the conclusions of the British, I hope you heard about their conclusions? ...

Apparently you were taught to read either between the lines, or from the bottom up - from the copy-paste you quoted, it is only clear that the OPCW confirms the identity of the "toxic chemical substance" that the British spoke about. What substance are we talking about? Hydrogen sulfide, chlorine, food salt, arsenic, zaman, sarin, mustard - what kind of substance?
And yes, the most important thing: I do not care about the conclusions of the British, these are criminals organized this provocation.
What did you want to tell about by copying this balabolism.

Quote: kipod

... Do you need to know the same thing? ...

Isn’t it important for you to know? Then what are you doing here? Shining with a grace?

Quote: kipod

... When you undergo an examination in a hospital - do you care about the final diagnosis or the name of the Glasha laboratory assistant - what is of particular concern to you? ...

It’s important for me that I don’t go to the hospital at all. Although, what is important to me, you should not be touched and is not the subject of discussion.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: kipod

10. The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW confirm the findings of experts from the United Kingdom regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

actually talking about the formula of a substance

[kipod]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: kipod

10. The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW confirm the findings of experts from the United Kingdom regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

actually talking about the formula of a substance

in general, the conversation that the OPCW fully confirmed the conclusions of the British.
Are you worried about the formula? Do you want it in the public domain?
Or do you think that such an organization as the OPCW writes in one paragraph about the complete confirmation of the conclusions of Britain, and in the secret part (concerning the substance itself) it will give the formula of lemonade?

[Andrey K]

Quote: kipod

... in general, the conversation that the OPCW fully confirmed the conclusions of the British.
Are you worried about the formula? Do you want it in the public domain?
Or do you think that such an organization as the OPCW writes in one paragraph about the complete confirmation of the conclusions of Britain, and in the secret part (concerning the substance itself) it will give the formula of lemonade? ...

Are you clean neighing here?
What did you do - confirmed the conclusions of the British, confirmed the conclusions of the British, confirmed the conclusions of the British ....
The British did not see or hear the conclusions of the British. What they discovered there or vice versa tried to hide.
Are you sure that Squeaked sorry with dysentery (in the common people - diarrhea), the hospital did not fail.

[kipod]

Quote: Andrey K

What did you do - confirmed the conclusions of the British, confirmed the conclusions of the British, confirmed the conclusions of the British ....
The conclusions of the British, no one saw or heard

Seriously ?

Prime Minister Theresa May made a statement in connection with the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter:

- The poisoning was committed with the help of the nerve agent “military use” of the “novice” class, one of the most classified substances developed back in the Soviet Union.

Quote: Andrey K

Are you sure that Squeaked sorry with dysentery (in the common people - diarrhea), the hospital did not fail.

here is somehow sure.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: kipod

in general, the conversation that the OPCW fully confirmed the conclusions of the British.

Where?!!!!!!!!!
can you give a quote from the report?

[kipod]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: kipod

in general, the conversation that the OPCW fully confirmed the conclusions of the British.

Where?!!!!!!!!!
can you give a quote from the report?

10. The results of the analysis conducted by the OPCW, confirm the findings of UK specialists regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
we are talking about the FORMULA of SUBSTANCE, and not about the name, and especially about the country of origin

[sabakina]

Quote: kipod

concerning the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

And shaw, still somewhere travanuli, except Salisbury?

[kipod]

Quote: sabakina

Quote: kipod

concerning the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury and the severe poisoning of three people.

And shaw, still somewhere travanuli, except Salisbury?

can't you read?
It's about Salisbury, where is something else written?

[Borik]

All that the public needed to know was classified.

The public repeats only what they say. Since the truth is classified as Top Secret and is not subject to disclosure 100 years.

[self-propelled]

cool excuse this secret part of the report. they understand that they’ve got into a puddle at the most reluctant and, voila, here’s the very notorious “secret part of the report” —and you don’t have to explain or prove anything to anyone else. gentlemen believe in the word. in the case of the downed Malaysian MN-17, it’s also like that

[forty-eighth]

Russia will receive this part, do not worry.

[jjj]

How expensive are such international structures. And what an insignificant result they give

[Dezinto]

Well and what is it? Again a pitchfork in the water. It looks like a report - “how I spent this spring” - and his team.

"The team and I went there, did it, then we looked at it, and everything was very interesting."

What kind of official document is this !? They simply scoff at Russia, and consider their target audience in Europe complete critins! “That's what it looks like.” Bravo!

[askort154]

What a shadow on the fence to induce verbosity and secrecy. In paragraph 10, they expressed all the activities of the OPCW. In Russia, they did not expect anything else. We know your "creativity" in Syria, which they did without leaving the place.

[Same lech]

There are many more questions about the antidote.
How he so quickly ended up in the right place and in the right amount and how they determined that this particular antidote was needed and no other.
A lot of questions about how to use a poisonous substance ... a bunch of versions in the media.
And in general, with a high degree of probability it can be argued that this is a poorly prepared statement by the British intelligence services ... like those that regularly appear in SYRIA ... the same style.

[astepanov]

There are no questions about the antidote. A similar mechanism of action is observed for all organophosphorus OM, therefore, a common antidote, say, for sarin, soman, and Vx gases. For example, atropine, diazepam ... And the affected areas of the skin are treated with oxidizing agents. Any bleach is good; Domestas is also life-giving.

[Mountain shooter]

The mountain gave birth to a mouse. I really like these "secret parts" of the reports! We have evidence, but we won’t show it to you! But just in case, we’ll bomb you ... Well, I don’t like you.

[Strashila]

"The team notes that the toxic chemical has high purity. With almost no impurities." ... the opening of the century ... the British live in sterile conditions and breathe super dry inert gases, mutants for sure ... what the British provided, and the specialists gave a conclusion ... and what kind of samples they gave only they know ... that’s why the Russian specialists were not allowed to the crime scene .. scammers.

[sabakina]

Quote: Strashila

"The team notes that the toxic chemical has a high purity. With almost no impurities." ...

Strashila, you are arguing a little in the wrong direction. They believe that a substance of such purity cannot be created in the laboratory of any university, but only in a research institute, i.e. already at the state level. And purity is not that without any impurities. It’s like heroin, there is quality, i.e. highly cleaned, but there is a "dirty" made in the kitchen. Personally, I was interested in something else. Can this Novice get into the blood of what they wrote about?

[Strashila]

It is unlikely that a substance removed from a crime scene will be super pure ... there are such terms, volatility, solubility and other describing the behavior of a substance in contact with air, which in itself is a mixture of gases, moisture and solid particles ... in a simple substance it enters into a chemical a reaction over a period of time, quite a lot passed ... who isolated the starting material and by what methods ... you can get anything you want by knowing the chemistry of the process and having equipment with specialists ... it seemed to me in the press that Israeli experts argued that it’s possible to fake a DNA test, it’s all about knowing the process. "It's like heroin, there is high-quality, that is, highly purified," ... if this heroin is decomposed into an analyzer ... then each laboratory manufacturer will have its own " handwriting, unique to her.

[Valentinovich]

Well, about the dope, we "rocked"
They "rocked" - We were silent
Or they didn’t keep silence, we shouted
That we did not accept it!

Now We Skrypaly poisoned ...
What about the British? Those were treated!
Well, there’s a doctor from God
From BOV "cure ANYONE"

[K-50]

The culprits were appointed even before the "incident". So any result will be tailored exactly to the required “defendant”.

[ul_vitalii]

They did a nice job, confirmed their qualifications, so it will be in the Duma, and the prize is even greater.

[sabakina]

Guys, you don’t know why pigeons go live and saw these “show masks”?

[voyaka uh]

Because poison is a gel that is applied to an item (door handle,
handset) holding which, the person whom
if they want to kill, they will take it.
If the pigeon had pecked the doorknob of Skripal’s house, he would have died.

[sabakina]

Well, now it’s clear why in England they used to wear gloves all year round.

[lance]

warrior from where such knowledge about binary gases, you are also a chemist? gel is one of the components. when mixing the components, this is ov-gas. if people are poisoned, pigeons should lie with blood and foam.

[voyaka uh]

I just read the press carefully. The substance was made so that it is not transmitted by air. Neither the pigeons nor the police in the cordon without special suits were in danger. But the first policeman, who also took hold of the door handle of Skripal’s house, was also poisoned.

[Vladimir_R]

Quote: sabakina

Guys, you don’t know why pigeons go live and saw these “show masks”?

I suppose I know. I will answer you.

Pigeons walk alive, because the concentration of the alleged BOV is not enough. Moreover, I can assume that he is not there at all - this is the place where the bodies were found. People go in special suits because they are afraid of suffering, it is possible that they are afraid in vain, but here, as they say, it is better to overdo it.

[donavi49]

The United Nations is already collecting Britain - for allegations with OPCW documents.

Wangyu and with Syria will be similar. The OPCW will now find Zarin quickly. Just the time is needed for the AUG approach and the transfer of the Air Force / ammunition stockpiles of the participating countries. The OPCW will roll out a report in which it indicates - Zarin. Well, then the UN Security Council, the veto of the Russian Federation, the operation is already in large numbers with a bunch of planes and ships.

I thought they would hit right away, and the AUG and reinforcements were being dragged to the second echelon / reserve. But apparently they decided to focus on the adult. And this is rather a bad (tougher option) - which Trump chose.

Soft - hit quickly on 5-10-20 objects. And defeat the regime on Twitter, reporting the destruction of the potential and the main part of the Air Force. And calm down.

[sir_obs]

spray real ov on them and show the difference

[Skif83]

Look for more bullshit!
Who was represented by the OPCW?
Is there a guarantee that it was creaked, and the blood belongs to them?
Were the OPCW personally acquainted with the Skripals?
What is the guarantee that the shavers present the collected samples of OM?
What is the guarantee that everything collected by Britons in general is related at least to the Skripals residence?
And if this is a real BOB, then how did they survive?

Full G ... !!!

The answer from the Kremlin would have seemed like this: "We do not believe you, and are not going to believe. We claim that the shaving did it, we have every reason for this. You can investigate everything you want at home. We don’t care. But if you try to harm Russia in one way or another, get a tough answer. Now try ... ".

[kipod]

Quote: Skif83

Look for more bullshit!

Quote: Skif83

Were the OPCW personally acquainted with the Skripals?

Quote: Skif83

The answer from the Kremlin would have seemed like this: "We do not believe you, and are not going to believe

That's how I'm sure that the Kremlin will not say that

Moscow, April 10. the Russian Federation calls on the technical secretariat of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) send specialists to Syria to find out all the details of the incident in the city of Duma. This was reported in a press release issued on Tuesday by the Permanent Mission of Russia to this organization.

Russia calls on OPCW to fully investigate Khan Sheikhun incident

somehow strange, huh?
here it fits - it doesn’t fit here --- but the organization seems to be the same?

[bald]

Well, complete nonsense - to push them into a chlorpecrine tent for ventilating the brain.

[jassi05]

Quote: sabakina

Guys, you don’t know why pigeons go live and saw these “show masks”?

They simply are not informed that the area is infected :)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in short, as I understand the violinists banged and apparently not with the help of OB

[Operator]

Damn, many Russian media outlets posted this news under the headline: "The OPCW confirmed the data of Britain", despite the fact that in paragraph 10 of the open part of the report it is written in black and white that the OPCW confirmed only the chemical composition of the toxic substance, and the rest of the British nonsense about a specific denied the origin of the substance (according to foreign media).

So then believe that our media are not stuffed with foreign agents at the most I can not.

[Bakht]

Russia is a member of the OPCW. So you can familiarize yourself with the sex-secret part of the report

[lance]

only with the permission of London. will receive in 2050. it’s time for grandma May to retire, she won’t reach the techcher. even though she openly hated Russia, she did not fall to forgery and baseness.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lance

only with the permission of London. will receive in 2050.

do not write nonsense and do not reduce gossip

[lance]

time will tell who raves what

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

where does the time if the OPCW ALREADY HAS TRANSFERRED a document of Russia

[lance]

then publish the theses of the secret part. what kind of gas, and its effect, a lethal dose.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

OZHO AND OUR CONFIRMED TRANSFER AND RECEIPT
and the request to publish the theses of the SECRET part only says that you are a troll

[Vard]

What is striking ... This is the secret part ... the organization exists and voluntary contributions ... and you have secrets ...

[bone1]

What kind of circus-OPCW conducted an “investigation” and classified it, from whom and why? - And what is hidden under the terrible term "toxic chemical"? - Dust? - Expired milk? insect repellent?

[Sergey-8848]

May name from Vasya. Vis from capital London ol vis beauty beauty day. Something like that was expelled from school, but here they also put pluses and give out wigs. Posoruha. Boring hat.
PS Sinister by the name of Boris or Vladimir - exclusively to the Times of different degrees of indecency.

[urman]

Miraculous things are happening on the island.
I remember Starikov wrote as Gaidar who the Egor also travannuli on the taman shores.
Well, that piglet was smart enough not to become a sacred victim, and he fled from the Aglitsky hospital, straight to the Russian embassy.
And from there to the stony Mordor, to Moscow where he still lived.
Those who are smarter than a bargaining chip do not want to be.
Nemtsov really got in Moscow, as they say they themselves chose.

[zulusuluz]

The team notes that the toxic chemical has high purity. With almost complete absence of impurities.

Even moisture, dust and sand ???

[g1washntwn]

The most fun item in the OPCW report

7. The team was informed about the type of toxic chemical.

It looks as if the Anglo-Saxons had poisoned the Skripals, then they gave out as a comparison model for the OPCW.

10. The results of an analysis conducted by the OPCW confirm the findings of United Kingdom specialists regarding the identity of the toxic chemical used in Salisbury

Well, of course, how could he not coincide with this option?

[bone1]

It’s time to help in the investigation — you need to spray a little warhead of war over Britain and then, expressing condolences to a couple of hundreds of thousands of dead, to observe with interest the organization of British PCP and the actions of the British “excellent ambulance”.