Rostec introduced in India a large-caliber machine gun

Corporation "Rostec" for the first time presented abroad the newest large-caliber assault machine gun complex SHAK-12, reports press office company.

The presentation took place at the International Exhibition Defexpo India-2018.

According to the information, “SHAK-12 (assault rifle complex) was designed by the designers of the Central Design Research Bureau of the sport and hunting weapons, a branch of the Instrument Engineering Design Bureau. Academician A.G. Shipunova (part of the High-Precision Complexes holding) and is a modern example of a highly efficient assault melee weapon for special forces. ”

The main objective of the complex is to quickly and effectively defeat the enemy, including using a body armor or cover to protect.

Russian small arms have long established themselves in the international market as reliable, easy to use and meet the modern requirements of the conduct of hostilities. 12 SHAK is an ideal weapon for counterterrorism and other power operations in the conditions of settlements, buildings, structures where it is necessary to ensure maximum security of the civilian population. We expect great interest in this development from the special services of foreign countries,

quoted by the press service of the director of the cluster "Armament" Rostec Sergey Abramov.

It is reported that ShAK-12 "uses a large-caliber 12,7x55 mm cartridge, which has a high stopping effect at close range, but at the same time quickly loses energy while increasing the firing distance, which reduces the likelihood of hitting third parties.

The complex is built on the layout of the bullpup. This scheme reduces the length of the weapon, and the included silencers of various types provide a significant reduction in sound and eliminate the occurrence of a muzzle flame when fired, said the corporation.

Comments

[Pattor]

Powerful machine!

[vkl.47]

About rs-12 revolver forgot again

[Hire]

So this is a modified Picatinny rail ASH-12.

It has been in service with the FSB since 2011.

[Vanek]

Quote: Pattor

Powerful machine!

Through the walls naughty.

[Ingvar0401]

Normally barmaley in cities makes such

[Vard]

Go kickback like a horse with a hoof ... For an assault on the premises, it’s better to not have a shotgun ...

[Sands Careers General]

There seems to be a reduced powder charge, an effective range of not more than 200 m. A bullet will not fly far, unlike the classic 12,7, but if it does, it will be sad for the enemy, and the armor will not save. He will turn an elephant into a colander in a few seconds

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vard

For an assault on the premises, it’s better not to have a shotgun ...

Does the armor shotgun break through?

[Vard]

Shotgun when falling into unprotected areas of the body ... a very unpleasant thing ...

[alex-cn]

5-7 meters tungsten buckshot, if it does not break through the armor (most likely, it will), then its carrier will be hit like a brick and smeared along the nearest wall with body armor. Then you can scrape it off and "talk heart to heart" The machine is good in that you can give a large dispersion horizontally.

[Piramidon]

Quote: alex-cn

5-7 meters tungsten buckshot, if it does not break through the armor (most likely, it will), then its carrier will be hit like a brick and smeared along the nearest wall with body armor. Then you can scrape it off and "talk heart to heart" The machine is good in that you can give a large dispersion horizontally.

Of course, I’m never a commando, but, as far as I understand, buckshot gives a wide angle of dispersion (I used to hunt), and here the representative of the Design Bureau emphasizes that this machine allows you to selectively hit criminals without hitting those who were not involved (hostages, eg).

[alex-cn]

then it’s badly charged. The “correct” cartridge with tungsten gives a dispersion of one hundred meters, and a regular plastic container opens 12-15 meters from the muzzle.

[Piramidon]

Quote: alex-cn

then it’s badly charged. “right” tungsten cartridge gives a meter dispersion per hundred

In those days, charged with what everyone charged. It was necessary to roll a shot on cast-iron pans. Tungsten, as it were, did not come across.

[venik]

Quote: Piramidon

Does the armor shotgun break through?

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Punching - does not punch .... But the "client" (along with the "armor" is "carried away" by several meters (with the "resulting" consequences .......)

[st25310]

There is provided for two and three bullet cartridge, SHAK-12 universal thing. Both the machine gun and the makeshift shotgun, so to speak.

[volodimer]

I would like to see the ammunition!

[cast iron]

What makes you think that the recoil will be stronger than the recoil of a pump-action shotgun? For example, I am sure that on the contrary, there will be less.

[Fedorov]

Well, the first one back in the USSR was created, an anti-terrorist one, that would knock out any window-doors, 23 mm, from rejected trunks from ZU-23. The truth is not automatic. I forgot the name, there’s no time to search.
But I don’t put the competence of Gryazev-Shipunov under binoculars. There were strong personalities, and the results were concrete. Although GSH-18 was never brought to mind, I was offended. Although he shot from it. There were no complaints after two clips. He punched a 7-mm steelwork from 25 meters.

[Glory1974]

Well, the first one back in the USSR was created, an anti-terrorist one, that would knock any door-windows, 23-mm

Special carbine 23 mm KS-23. It is in service with the troops of the Russian Guard. It is used for shooting "bird cherry" and other gases in the crowd, and also yes, for knocking out locks. Rubber bullets may be used.

[Fedorov]

Like a hello bullet?

[Glory1974]

or "wave"

[Nikolaevich I]

Actually, we've been talking about a machine for the caliber 12,7 x 55 mm for a long time .... I just can’t get used to the Russian "tradition": they inform about the completion of development and the soon adoption of any "weapon" ... passes, sometimes, for several years ... and again there are reports of "the completion of development and the soon adoption of" the same "weapon"! In my opinion, is this cartridge used in the Exhaust sniper rifle? And in South Africa we took the same path ...: for example, you can "show" a store 20-mm grenade launcher and a light 20-mm "gun" chambered for 20 x 42 mm versus 20 x 83,5 (110) mm

[tchoni]

The only one who looks at the rifle is a manka-shooter obsessed with large calibers.

[cast iron]

But I see a great alternative to a pump action shotgun. At the same time, the ASH-12 is much more accurate and long-range.

[tchoni]

More likely an automatic machine for the guards. Whatever the type of "saiga" in 20m or 410m caliber. Yes, there are trump cards. And this thing is not a competitor to the pump room. Neither by weight, nor by reliability, nor by scope.

[bald]

Well, just great. From what I began to compare and try on IL-12, damn some 0.7 mm. . I am always loading cartridges myself - that’s where I started to be smart.

[Vasyan1971]

"Has a high stopping effect"
Caliber 12,7 mm. Really! It would be strange if he didn’t possess ... And the return, interestingly, does not torment?

[abrakadabre]

And the return, interestingly, does not torment?

Depends on the weight of gunpowder.

[Simargl]

2500-3500 J - like a shotgun.

[Izotovp]

This is muzzle energy. The recoil momentum energy is a bit different numbers.

[cast iron]

Why would it suddenly differ from the recoil of a 12-gauge shotgun ???

[Izotovp]

What a shotgun: a pump, a semiautomatic device or just a gun. What is the length of the sleeve, the mass of a bullet or shot, the type and weight of gunpowder ... see how many questions arise immediately? Read about internal ballistics and generally on the theory of thermal impulse machines.

[cast iron]

Let's substantively:
1. The energy of the bullet, that of the pump, that of this miracle - is almost the same.
2. The mass of moving parts in a semi-automatic pump is greater - in any case, in designs with a free shutter. So, a blow to the shoulder will be bigger and more painful.

[Simargl]

Quote: Izotovp

Recoil momentum energy slightly different numbers

Impulse energy is nonsense!
Either the energy of the shot (muzzle energy), or the impulse (recoil), and so, at the same energy, the impulse varies: more bullet mass - more impulse. This is if there is no DTC.
Well, the impulse will approximately correspond to 12K magnums.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Sorry, that is off topic. But I am always tormented by one question - well, who, or what, makes the physical. or legal persons to call their firms, companies, etc. in foreign words? And this one - “Lazarev Tactical”, and always Latin.
I don’t know, maybe I'm wrong, but I have such Lazarev (s) that cause unpleasant associations.

[cast iron]

Build your weapons business from scratch in a country where they destroy any business not affiliated with bureaucrats. And then call this business even a Cyrillic alphabet, even a Latin alphabet. At your discretion.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: cast iron

Build your weapons business from scratch in a country where they destroy any business not affiliated with bureaucrats. And then call this business even a Cyrillic alphabet, even a Latin alphabet. At your discretion.

You want to say that it is the officials who force the entrepreneur to call their company and (or) their products not in Russian words? Let you not believe it. In my opinion this is a servile worship of the West, worthy of all contempt.

[cast iron]

In my opinion you misunderstood what I wanted to write to you. I repeat once again. If you take a look at the history of Lobaev’s business, you’ll understand perfectly why one fine day he got the hell out of the bureaucrats of Russia abroad with his business. His business, by the way, is real. Do not buy and sell speculative, as in 99% of the "businessmen" of the country, namely the constructive. And he, Lobaev, has the right to call him as he sees fit. The Russian bureaucrats did everything to destroy the unique arms company, which makes truly competitive products on a world level. The bureaucrats did not succeed. Lobaev during the race hit the rising from the knees of the state. And he did it right.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: cast iron

In my opinion you misunderstood what I wanted to write to you. I repeat once again. If you take a look at the history of Lobaev’s business, you’ll understand perfectly why one fine day he got the hell out of the bureaucrats of Russia abroad with his business. His business, by the way, is real. Do not buy and sell speculative, as in 99% of the "businessmen" of the country, namely the constructive. And he, Lobaev, has the right to call him as he sees fit. The Russian bureaucrats did everything to destroy the unique arms company, which makes truly competitive products on a world level. The bureaucrats did not succeed. Lobaev during the race hit the rising from the knees of the state. And he did it right.

Sorry, but you didn’t understand me. Lobaev is mentioned here as an example, it may not be entirely successful, but still an example. I talked about the trend. Look at the VAZ line of cars. Anyway, go through the city, look at every step non-Russian names. In general, if you wish, you will understand me. But no - and there is no trial

[cast iron]

I understand you perfectly. I also love Russian more than English. But we live in a world in which we are led by unprincipled goons with one crinkle, sharpened for personal enrichment. And everyone else takes an example.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: cast iron

I understand you perfectly. I also love Russian more than English. But we live in a world in which we are led by unprincipled goons with one crinkle, sharpened for personal enrichment. And everyone else takes an example.

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[XXXIII]

It is reported that ShAK-12 "uses a large-caliber 12,7x55 mm cartridge, which has a high stopping effect at close range, but at the same time quickly loses energy while increasing the firing distance, which reduces the likelihood of hitting third parties.

Thing....

[Vanek]

It's one thing when the walls to one and a half ... Well, God bless him - two bricks. And it’s completely different when around the huts of the Indian yogis. There is enough Margolin. And these 12,7 where they will be bullet ???

[fan_]

Give two, in case of war, I will keep at home as reservists in Switzerland.